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Hello and welcome to House of Ar. I'm Joanna Robinson, and joining me today to very special Yes Jessica Mcenna is here. Hello. Risha Kish Hway is here.. And we are so thrilled to be talking about fictional musical bands. I'm so excited Um Jessica, before you started, I wantanna ask both of you, what do you feel like your bonafides are for being here? Oh Oh, great. No, that's great. I think that I exist exclusively in fake music. I would say. ye. Do like a musical comedian. and most of my music is, I would say pretending that I know how to be musical while wrapping itself around to accidentally having to learn a lot about music over the past like decade or so. I write music and I improvise music, but really born out of a desire to pretend that I know how to create music. And end that pretending became true Like, you're living the dream? Yeah. He knows true. It's a real fake it,be maybe maybe.. Hey, thank you so much. Thank you. And your bona fides I'm a singer songwriter. I've put out a bunch of albums over the years and then had a long period when I was't ting out anything and making any music, but I started a music podcast called Song Exploder where I interviewed where I interview other musicians about how they make songs. Yeah. And then I started making music again and now I'm doing both C you talk about what your current project, your current album that you're touring. I just put out a record called in the Last Hour of Light. and it's the first album in fifteen years and Yeah I' been touring Um doing album release shows, but it's kind of like half band concert shows where I'm playing with my full band, but it's also kind of half a book tour because the album is kind of a memoir and I wanted to treat it like a memoir. So I've also been doing like a book talkalk style conversation or like song explodter style conversation about the making of the album before we play. Excellent. Jess, what are you currently working on that you want to tell folks about? Currently in rewrites in year six of an original musical, my comeding partner, Zach Rino and I along with David Wayne, wrote a musical that was originally conceived as a feature and then we decided to pivot it to stage and we did more than a workshop less than a show. It was a show. It was a show yeah here in Los Angeles in February at the Chaplain Studios U And now we're doing some rewrites, rebreaking some songs to yeah, I guess, send it to Broadway And you're saying it here so now it'll happen. You guys have somewhat in common between these the two of you, Josh Melina.. I tried to get Josh let me get in to see that show and I could not get a ticket. I'm so sorry. It was a hot ticket. It was you should have come to me. Now you have the clother. That sounds good. All right, so we're getting into fictional bands and the Vampireess Dot right after this. 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They did their live concert in New York City this last week and it is sort of ostensibly the reason we are gathered here today. but we're not gonna to go in depth about the Vampire Stat. This isn't like a primer for that show. It's just sort of like a tangentially, this is actually just's idea, tangential sort of, let's talk about fictional bands in general before this show that's about a fictional band And then House of the Dragon is going to be here soon. So there's a lot coming up. Spoiler warning for music question mark. I don't know, someome of these musical moments have plots associated with them. So but we're not talking about anything that feels sort of new, new, fresh fresh. We're going back through the history of film and television. so I don't think there should be anything anyone should be worried about spoiler. I don't think so. spoiler sometimes music is in movies Sometimes. sometometimes people sing. Yeah so lip sync. Yeah. and a lot of these though they're not musicals, which is like so if you're like, I'm an opposite of a spoiler, but I just don't wantan to listen to this because I don't like musicals. This isn't about musicals. These are actually not about musicals. Yeah. Yeah. They we got you there. There's like one Got you O. musical or you know, a couple that I would call musical. Y. But I was trying to keep the musicals out of the mix because trying to keep this as like sort of fictional bands and rock stars sort of thing Um On the Lestatte front, if you're not up to date on what's going on with Leestat, we just wanted to talk about it like really briefly here at the top. Interview with the Vampire, season one and season two came out. and then this is season three of Interview with the Vampire, but they're calling it the Vampire Listat because that's the book it's partially based on. Sam Reid, who plays the Vampire Listat in this era of his lifestyle of his life Long life. Lis dad is a rock star, canonically a rock star. So this third season of the TV show has to be built around And after they've already cast as a stat becoming a rock star, having a band centering around him. Have either of you checked out any of the music that they've already released for the show? What what have heard? What do you think? Yeah, I've listened all of the music. I mean, it feels very real. like Yeah it feels fully baked in and I like it for the era too. You know, it's kind of like it's very Iggy pop, I think. Yeah. Like a more slinky Iggy pop. I mean, Iggy pop's quite slinky to begin. That's true. A slinkyer Iggy w. Yeah. Yeah,. I think it's like it's such a perfect placement too, I think, because that feels like a heightened moment in rock Music history, very performative, very about like persona as rock star. So it's really rich. Yeah I'm so excited for this. as as as I said, they did a live show New York. So Samry iss like, no really, I can do this. I am singing into a microphone I can do this. He has expressed a lot of anxiety because he is not like a trained singer, but I think he sounds great and not like heavily, his voice doesn't sound heavily manipulated. He's doing a lot of, you know, plenty of like talk singing on these songs. My Speaking of musicals, my dad always calls that style Rexs Harroning, like or something right sort of like talk singing to get through. But he's also belting out on some of it. and it actually sounds to my ear really great. What do you guys think of his musicality here Yeah, definitely. And also that just adds to like the authenticity. I think it's you don't want like it's super overly processed. That's when you start to get in an uncanny valley of like, is this even a human? human not a human. But I think immortal cords probably would have a little more you know grit to them. Yeah Iortal cords also There's a confidence in the talk singing. Yeah. You know, it's like, I don't need it's the opposite in some ways of musical singing. You know, it's just like I can do whatever I want. I feel like it goes well with the character and the era. It makes sense to me. Yeah The inspos For the rock starist dad are many. Here we go. David Bowie, Mick Jagger, Bjork, Freddy Mercury, Mark Sandmon Franz Lz Otis Redding, Moses Sumney, Douglas Dair, Red Cross, Lang Lang, Iggy Pop, Staint Vincent, Prince, Florence Welsh Jim Morrison, T. Rex, T Rex got me really excited. Gustav Mahller, Bread and Flowers, Fiona Apple, Sege Gainsburg, Electric L Orchestra, the sweet Nick Kay Raleigh Richie, who is Jacob Anderson, who plays Louis. Benjamin Clementine, Chapel Rowan, Gustavo Dudamel, David Lee Roth, Brian Patner, John Kale, Deff Magnum, Paul Westerberg, and Daniel Hart, the composer. Any of those stick out is particularly intriguing to you. I mean, Gustavo, let's go. Sorry to get real LA specific Yeah Well, he's moving or he has moved I think he's moved. Well he's the conductor for the LA fil. and from I mean, I've seen him conduct the LA fil a couple of times, but also my heart goes to the mural on the side of the one of the one. including the famous violin lady. Google it. Wh is that violin lady? This has been a big question I've had is a recent Yeah. Well transplant. Really important that you understand. My friend, she's so iconic. I don't know her name, but her so iconic. My friend was her for Halloween. Wow. C came to a crowded Halloween party and we were all like G. So Gustavo, a very animated conductor. so that's like interesting. I don't I mean That's a very fun one. An Any things to get to you Well, Gustavo? Yeah, Gustavo reallyally jumped out when I listened. twowo things Mark Sandman, was very excited to hear that name in there I love Morphine. Morphine is one of my favorite bands from Massachusetts. they were very big, they were an important band. And then also, Daniel Hart of course, is a composer for the show. He wrote these songs and he's a great friend of mine. He's a wonderful, wonderful guy, incredibly talented. He plays on my album And yeah, I love him. He's incredible. So I was a huge fan of his before his work on Interview of the Vampire. He did he did great work on all the David Lowry films. I'm auge Pete's Dragon head among other things. But his work in the Green Knight, his work on that one is so amazing. So I was a fan of him as a composer The composition, the score that he has done for the first few seasons of Interview with Empire, incredible. That intro that starts the, you know, it's like almost like an orchestra warming up sort of sound that starts the episodes, incredible stuff. And then yeah, and then he's written these in Amazing songs. When the first song came out, I was worried, like I wasn't sure how this was gonna to go. I saw the Queen of the Dam the last time we tried to get a rock starlist at in a film. and we're this is a very celebratory podcast. We're here to celebrate things that we love and not, you know, crush things that we don't love, but that was by all reports, not a successful film. I rewatched it recently and I was like, yeah, this just doesn't work. So there's, you know, if the music doesn't work in this season, if it is not believably catchy Then the whole season doesn't work because it's built around a rock tour. Yeah. Jesiny. Definitely, I just feel like also it's one of the traps of like having music represented in media is if you hang too much on how good the band is supposed to be. or how good a single song is supposed to be. L I found myself like drawn more to stories about like finding what we sound like stories because I think that just gives you a lot more latitude to not every song has to be like the best song ever. I know we're not talking about musicals here, but it's like it's such a sad issue I have with Haitiown, a musical that I mostly really like, but I'm like a whole plot point is. and then Orpheus came up with the greatest song ever heard ever of all time and it's It's like like no, no we don't buy it. And so I think it's like, yeah, it's a tough trap. if if you know he is successful or like this touris a monster hit That's a way harder bar to clear versus does this song just have to sound like an era, feel connected to the character, you know, like 's I don't want to get too far ahead, but there's lots of ways that we like use artists in fictional bands where we're maybe they're on a downside, mayaybe they're on a comeback. Yeah, they're finding their sound, which I think is like narratively a strong choice to make sure that you're not putting too much pressure to invent greatest song 've ever heard. Right. Yeah. I find this thing not just in music, also I think with comedy. Yes. Fictional comedians is like really tough. Studio sixty Yeah really tough. ye. I mean I think Hax runs into this too sometimes when, you know, like just anything where or funny people, you know, any timee you have to depict someone being funny and they're killing Yeah, you have this pressure of like Is it also killing with the people watching Rightight. Hax much is so much more successful when they're in the riff of like, maybe it's this, maybe it's that. And you're like, oh, great, I understand their comedic brains.. But I don't necessarily have to like six months later think this singular joke is amazing. Right Right. And that's why Thirty Rock, I think was so brilliant because the whole premise was You know, the girlly show was like Bad You know, so they could have all the silly, you know farting robot jokes. Yeah. and they were always a struggling show. And so you had all this freedom to like do whatever you want, and you didn't have to live up to this point. Right O or you're only dealing with like tops and tails of a sketch. You're never watching like a whole sketch, which is another thing about fake music is like, can you end the recording session and you kind of get a glimmer of what the song could be R you not to hear the whole all the hook exxactly. Yeah. Yeah, it's interesting. We were just talking about this on the Prestige TV podcast In an episode of Euphoria this season, Sydney Sweetie delivers a Shakespearean monologue and I was like, I was like, is this supposed to be good or is it supposed to be bad? I was trying to like you're watching the people watching right? And like how are they covering them? But there's a thing that I often see filmmakers and people who make TV do when they're trying to capture good acting, which is the camera does like a circle around them and they're just like, this is really it. They're really doing it. It's this like camera language to try to communicate to you, this is great. This is good acting and then they capture some like rapped faces or you get the standing ovation. But with music and comedy, it's so much harder, I think, because especially with music, because we know a great song would hear it We know either in a musical space or something like that when something gets stuck in your head, when it has an actual hook that you can sing that you wantan to like listen to the soundtrack immediately when you get into your car, when you're home, there's no denying it. So I just think the stakes are so much higher on music for sure. Yeah. Can I say one more thing about Daniels? Yeah. So I wasn't worried when I went to go play on the songs because If you haven't heard Dark Roms, which is Daniel's own project, it's amazing. And he really should be a rock star And also he's just uniquely qualified, I think, for this exact role because he's He was a playwright, He has a playwriting background. and he's an incredible musician. He was also in Saint Vincent. He was in poolyphonic sppree. He this crazy resume. Yeah. And I feel like this is a time when he gets to bring all these different parts of himself to bear in this one aspect. It's really cool. I definitely didn't mean that as like an insult to him at all. was just sort of I love this show so much Yeah. and I just wanted this to be incredible. And then as soon as I heard Longface, which is the first track that they released, I was like, oh, oh we're cooking. Yeah. this is it. We got it. This' another thing though is like it's there if you if you can use like pastiche or such a specific genre that's not current, that's the other thing I think is the hardest is trying to write like current music, especially, I think it's really hard to see the forst of the trees. I don't really know what the sound of right now is That might just be because I'm old, but I'm like, I wouldn't know how to like write a song for right now versus if you asked me to write a song for like two thousand five, I'd be like great, or stand behind like a rock glam sound. You're just like you're working in a more refined palette that's going allow you to I think, have like a higher success rate Yeah Um, In the So the songs that they've released, they've released five so far as of the taping of this podcast Butterscot bitch Great title Love that song. Longface, which is the first one they released, which starts with L Marseilluse, which is like a nice like Beatles reference, that's how all you need is love starts, but also like a nice like Lestat, who's French, you know. And has that great like o o o like hook to it so good. All Fall down which they used on the trailer. So I've heard it a lot ' I've watched that trailer a lot, which is incredible. The Dancing with Myselfel cover, which they released on another trailer and then your biggest fan, which is like more a is more of like a slowdown ballad with a scorching guitar section on it. I'm just like there's a nice amount of diversity here. And to your point about this idea of someone finding their sound. That's something that they've talked about a lot in the press lead up to this season of just sort of like Listat is working through a lot A lot of centuries of psychological damage, emotional. like centuries of musical reference he making He be like, I can't get this song from like sixteen eighty two. I know what it mean.ike Talk about just standing on the shoulders of giants. He was like there to hear a lot of it. Yeah, exactly. So to your part about Daniel Hart, it's like as a playwright Having to write in the voice of the character of Lestat working through, you know, this isn't just like a fun pop song with a hook or a cool rock song with a hook, like he's processing his feelings about Louis or all of these other figures in his life via the music. And that's even an even higher bar that they have to clear, which I think they are. so Yeah. And you have to do that in an more abstract way with film scoring all the time Yeah you know, think about what's the emotional through line in this scene from the perspective of this character, whatever, but to be able to do it in a in a pop song context. There aren't a lot of people who can translate that from the film scoring world He's definitely won. Yeah. Anything else you want to say about again, we're not we're not here to be negative, but anything else you want to say about when it doesn't work. I mean, I think like pop music for me is like one of the hard hardest ones. if it's just like this person's writing a music in a time that you're supposed to hear, it reflect the sound that you're currently in. I think like distance is really helpful. And I think like limitations are helpful. I'm currently doing a Girls rewatch, but realized that I never went beyond season two because I read FameSick. and I was like, I think I have to reassess my relationship to girls. And so I've like finally got to the season where Marnie's in a singer songwriter. And trying to like place them in more like the stomp clap like lumineers era. I'm like, yeah, I guess this, but I'm it is that it is an uncounty valley of like how good is this supposed to be Probably not that good but occasionally a little good. Yeah, good enough that they got on meeting at like a record label or whatever. But yeah, I think distance is super helpful, but or like shorter versions of songs. Yeah, and all I can think of is that Orpheus song at the moment, sorry, Hades Town, really catching some stight. Epic three. Really? I have a lot of epic three thoughts that I would love to share with you sometime. But on the sort of like fictional band front, I just wanted to note who they've cast to surround Sam Reid here. So they've gotten a bunch of musicians, actor musicians So No Reed, no relation as far as I know, who played Patrick on Schitzs Creek and did that iconic simply The best cover and incredible in the fake cabaret that they did, something like that. So like is musician, is playing Larry in the band. Manman lead singer and lyricist Honus Honus Ran Katner. that's crazy. Oh My friend plays in Man Man sometimes. Okay So Ryan Canter, who's the music supervisor for the show is playing the character Salamander in the band. he's in the band. Sarah Swire, who performs as sister Swyire is a musician. She's playing TC, Tough Cookies, the drummer. And then Sheamus Patterson is Alex, who's also a musician. So they cast a bunch of like They actually know how to play their instruments musans to surround Sam Reid who has to play the guitar a bit, but mostly just has to be like shirtless in leather and sweaty and like hit his notes. And so in terms of like watching as two musicians yourself, in terms of watching people, I think about like I love listening to behind the scenes of movies and TV shows and they're like they sent us to bandcamp And we learned to play our instruments. Like can you tell when people are not not really doing it. and does it bother? I don't think I think I know so little about finger placement and stuff like that that it doesn't bother me because I can't see it. but does it bother you when someone clearly doesn't know? What do you think The thing, you know, that really bothers me actually probably goes along with this, but it's when the sound changes completely from and I feel like this happens all the time where they go to the playback version of the thing and suddenly you're supposed to be watching a band to sing in a garage and it sound like a studio recording. Um that that always takes me out because I'm like, what what space am I supposed to be in? how does this vocal have reverb on it? R right? Yeah. that always gets me. But yeah, for sure The drums are really big the big one. if you're listening to the drums and the The drummer's hitting somewhere else. I'm like, what what are What are we doing? Yeah It's so physically obvious. I was gonna say piano more for me of like where are you placing? And it's just like, just put the camera further away from the piano And just do an insert on someone else's fingers, like if you need it, unless it's like a bi, unless it's like Rocket Man, you just shoot the other angle And to let the actor know,y you're vaguely up here, you're vaguely down here. You're playing something percussive, you're doing this with your left hand. They don't have to know how to play. I mean, it's cool. I think it's always cool when an actororss like I trained for six years to write how to play the banjo. it's neat. but I think yeah, it's like easy to work around. You don't need to do that. When you watched Timothy Chhalamay on the set of Dune two being like, I came bom You and guitar. I know, I know. goosh. I mean as an actor, though, Hollywood doesn't agree with that label enough for my taste meaneaning I don't have that many credits. That was a confusing way of saying that. I always have a dream that I'll get cast in something that requires me to learn like an insane skill or get really jacked Which should be really nice. Someone like paid you to be nice. It' be like super jacked. Yeah, to' get really jacked. Yeahah. I'm gonna manifest this for you. Thank you so much. I I can't do that on my own. You Without a roll, why would anybody? Why would anyone do thatver? Why? I don't want to eat that much cod? Yeah Yeah, I just saw the movie Tuner earlier this week where the actor Leah Woodall there's two actors in that movie who are meant to be incredible piano players. And his character doesn't play until the very end of the movie. And what I really love about that is he has these very distinctive like small but very distinctive tattoos on his hands. and then I was like, why are those there? Becauseuse the actors didn't have them. And then at the very end when they show the cut and insert of him playing Im like Oh, they put it on whoever has to play the piano. They put like the little tattoos on his hands to'd be like, oh, that's definitely. I'm like the piano is a real one because like they're always like, I'm like, are those your hands actually playing? I don't think so. But I also love those shots on the other side of the piano when they're just like really feeling it and like moving their arms around. you're like totally. Okaykay.. And I think you can kind of mark that like choreography. like if you needed to mark that you were likeike an incredible tap dancer, but they were framing like above your feet. Yeah. You could probably like fake what the top physicality looks like I mean, with some effort. it would't be easy, but you wouldn't have to do a perfect like double time step. You just be like, okay, it's like a hop B a step, you know, like sameame thing. like, okay, you're down in the you're down in the base. Yeah now youre now one hand is up here. You could learn it like a dance, I think Yeah, yeah. They should mark on the keyboard for them. I'm sure they do. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Blue, blue, blue. Yeah. That's my expectation. My expectation is they're going to do a pretty good job of faking it. Yeah. And's that's enough for me So when If someone actually is playing and you can tell they're really playing and it's happening, I'm very, very impressed. Like that's not my expectation that they should be able to do it But if they can't But if they can, wow. Wow. All right Fictional band Hall of Fame. Less of a competition, more of a celebration. Here are the rules We we and by we, I mean came up with ten random awards that we are giving out. The rules are they can come from any film and television you know property that you choose. Each of us is going to pick one winner per category. If someone picked your preferred winner, you have to pick something else. We're just trying to get a lot of variety here. So that's one rule. and then the other is you can only pick one winner from each property. I would say with the exception And I didn't say this to you beforehand, but I would say with the exception of the Hall of Fame category which I have at the end, which is just sort of like a more broad sort of thing. So we don't have to get so picky about that. But again In the interest of variety, so we don't just say, hey, I've seen almost famous nine thousand times and I have a tattoo about it, which I do. let's just spread it around, spread the love around. Any questions about the rules or what we're doing here? Not a question just those were tough rules to You' to work with Limits are helpful. That's what I think. All right, the first award is best newew arrtist And this is Best actor who is not famously known for singing, but sings very well nonetheless, and sure maybe you' helped to smidge by Auditube, but mostly, wow. Yeah. you're up first. Okay. I'm starting with like I think a a hipsterish choice as one like to say, a deeper cut. I'm gonna to go with Paulael in Girls Five Eva. Love it. I really loveved Girls Five Eva, greatreat music and Paulaele absolutely holds it down and she's up with like some real singers. and like Reneiley Skosby's in that. Yeah. and Sarah Baral. So it's like two Broadway Yeah. And you are and Busy Philips also great in it, but I think Paulael is like the further away from expectation,n one of the funniest writers on S andL of all time, like brilliant comedian, but not expecting her to be able to sing. And yes, they're mixed into a girl group sound, but I mean, I feel like she sells it. I love that. And I feel like when you can pick her out, you can hear like, yeah, there's a beautiful, warm tone to her voice Just Just a huge fan, yeah For people who haven't seen that show, because I think it was like a really underwatch show. People were constantly trying to champion that show but it never really hit. Wh. Can you talk a little bit of more about what that show was? Girls Five Eva is in the Robert Carlock Tina Feay DNA of Thirty Rock and Great News and now the Fall and rise of Regggie Jenkins, which I really also recommend And it's about a girl group that now they had like some hits You know fifteen years ago, and one of the members dies and they decide to get back together and now are like trying to navigate being like in their forties. And it's really funny and there's some great music in it. There's a song about a New York lonely boy that I think about a lot, where it's like a decision to have an only child and all these examples of how it's okay if you're in New York because there's tons of New York lonely boys including John Slattery makes a cameo, I think with maybe his real son of like, I've raised a New York loly b. So that's like one specific song, but yeah, it's a great great joke heavy show with some really successful music. And it does the thing I was talking about, which is like they're trying to find their sound. Their music in the past is supposed to be kind of bad or at least like pop derivative stuff. So there's never really There's not really a high bar ever for the music. It's allowed to be like comedic first, which is something that I know recognize and identify with. but it's still like hookie and fun and you buy it as pop music. So it's like it's carved out a really sweet spot for itself of what you're expecting the songs to sound like. Oh I love that U We did get a lot of listener emails saying like you have to, you know, give girls five of us, shout out.ate They did it. They were all from me Yeah. All your burners. I feel like the Tina Fe world always has good music. I think because of maybe her husband. Her husband, huge yeah Jeff Richmond, a hugefluence in the sound and and then composer of the Mean Girls musical. But yeah, I thinks there's a so like the comedy lineage of Second City, the Chicago theater The Chicago Imrovvenince Getch Theater Um, It's starting more in like the fifties. It was every show has an accompanance on stage, which is different than if you see like an Upright Citizens Brigade show or a show at Iprov Olympic or IO, where that got like peeled away. But back when it was like this is, and I think they still do, but like that aesthetic of you're coming here, you're having a drink, you're gonna watch a show. a pianist was on stage member of the comedy. And so I think that there's like a crossover. There wass a lot of like Chicago comedy that I think overlaps with having like a musical sensibility because literally your sketch would be underscored. Yeah All right, what's your's your winner here? Okay, I'm going with Carrie Mulligan. my answer. I love it. Yeah, yeah. But in which movie because for me, it's Ballad of Wallace Island. I mean, it's an She's kind of like an MVP. Oh, good one. Yeah. ' she's so good in love one. G I don't want to st up your answer. Give me your answer I you know, she's also in inside Lew and Davis. but Um I really wanted to talk about alladall silence. Yeahah. Maybe this is a hster pick. No, I love this movie Man movie that movie needs to be seen by more people. I loved it so much. Y. Maybe my favorite movie of last year. It's so beautiful. It's about this band, Cerry Mulligan and Tom Bastden were the members and then they broke up and then this eccentric Rich guy invites them to reunite And and then they play some of their old songs and she really sings. and And she's got such a nice voice and There's no need. You know,'t she doesn't have to be that good, but I totally buy it and I loveved the music as well as the movie U Great pick. I love her Inide Lewin Davis. She also sings in Far from the Mighting Crowd and shhame. Wha. And her performance in shhame She sings New York, New York and u and is like crying while she's seeing it. And it's like one of the best things I've ever seen. But I just like I love anytime she sings in a movie. That's a great choice hoisted by my own rules. I'm like, no one's going to pick Krie Mulligan. I will I will zag and I will say Yes, he was in Millin Rouge. Mcreor, I'm picking McGregor not for Moulin Rouge or anything like that, but for Velvet Goldmine. where he doesn't have to sing a ton. And I actually like I have heard Ywan McGregor sing without Auto tune and I actually don't think he's like tremendously on pitch all the time But in that movie, which I think has a lot of DNA in common with the Vampire of Stat, he is just like oiled and covered in glitter and gets literally naked at one point on stage in leather pants. And I just think it's like a huge inspo for what we're gonna see in totally the Vampire of Stat. So this is like, you know Pre Moulin Rouge, pre Obi Wan Kenobi, like Ean McGregor, just like when he got naked in love getting naked love in movies. So often that guy was naked. Yeah. And when I saw Velvet Goldmine, I was like so young and my job was just on the floor. I was like, I didn't know you guys do. I think I saw after I'd already seen, I mean, the first time he sings in Moulin Rouge, I think is Maybe the most significant moment of my life. What's like, My gift is my song? Yeah Yeah. It's one of like the only few movies I saw multiple days in a row. I was like, I have to get back for more. I' going through puberty right now rightight now. I can tell you started Exactly That was like hugely important. Yeah, ye, yeah. But then I went back after and watched Velve Goldmine when I was like I gott to go see all these. And I mean if you've naked movies, never somew of the naked Uvre. pllentiful. P book. like, you know, the Danny Boyle movies. but yeah, Velvet Goldmine, which is about various glam rock stars of the era. It's got Jonathan R Myers and. it's got Chris Chle in it, Tony Colette It's just an incredible sort of exploration and there's some great songs in there, some incredible visuals of that like Lam Rock ethher. Yeah. So huge fan of that All right, B original song, which is Catchiy's eararworm originally written for the show or film Rish Europe up first so The thing is you said best original song, but then you said catchiest earworm. And I'm sticking to what's on the page. Okay and it I feel whatever the opposite of the hipster choice, but I am Pting Golden from K Pop Dited. Oh yeah, yeah, n. Great pick. My nephew The other day, he's eight and I was on a Facetime call with my sister and her kids and someone just referenced that song and he said, you cannot say that it's going to be stuck in my head for the rest of the day. You can't even bring it up. Yeah. and that's how I feel. Can't mention the color, Really anything in the yellow f. Yeah it's over. Yeah. it's over for us. Yeah, the way that that that film took hold and the way that like children, I mean, not since frozen, I feel like children everywhere were just singing all of these songs constantly and that's part of how it's spread everywhere. It's just it's respon, you know, the music in that is responsible for How much of a massive phenomenon that particular movie totally. Yeah. And there was just the one second when my sister was like, Hey, you should check this movie out on Netflix. It's actually good. And you know the briefest moment where I was like, o, have I discovered this? I mean, I didn't discover my sister I was like, I'mhead of the curer. ye. Yeah slightly before Yeah.. And I don't think I even actually did. I just hadn't hit me yet And I think also K pop as like this huge phenomenon in general, but like not you know, necessarily, I feel like a lot of Americans like this was their first exposure to anything like KPOop. And they're like, o ye. now I understand what's happening here. But I was impressed by how they wove the plot into the actual songs. Yes. You know, they' what they're singing about in that song is actually like what they're Fighting against. That was cool. Yeah. it's great U Shout out Huntriickx, shhout out the Saga Bys I'm going to pick Just as I can here That Th You Do, from that Thing You Do, because that is the most important song in any of the things we're talking about because it is the entire premise of that movie ises we wrote the best song ever and it's going to launch us Nobody's into Inant fame and we're gonna to play it two hundred times in this movie. and you're gonna be excited every s time you hear it. Some would say, I think that actually I've heard it's referred to as the anti orheist song Not by you? No, no, that's actually a common term in the Biz. They're like, canan you believe they pulled off an anti orphheus? even though it preates Hies toown. The story, which is the inspiration from Lon Rougee. But yeah it's so good. When I first got a drum kit, that was all I wanted to learn was the doom d d doom d like it's so Amazing. And like what a thing to achieve That song rules. I gave someone drum lessons where that's what they want to do. Yeah really? Yeah., they're like, I just want to be shades, man. Yeah. That thing you do And we might talk about this a bit more a little later on, but like that thing you do Every time I get mad that it didn't win the Oscar for Best Original song, I have to go and remind myself what did win and it's my heart will go on from a titanic my gosh. Okay Wild. Yes. I understand what happened there. Oh my gosh, that's like. That's maybe the only thing that you ever beat it. Exactly. That's crazy. I know. Wow, we didn't know how good we had. I know. nineteen ninety seven Oscars. We had it so good. Oh she hit her chest so hard All right, Jos, what's your answer here? I have to go with the nineteen ninety five eye to eye by Powerline from a goofy movie, just to really firmly set you in trying to date my age I love that song so much and Powerline is Tevin Campbell like by backed up by Rosie Gaines, like people who was supposed to sound like Prince and so they got people who sing with Prince like it was It's like a forgotten movie that is held dear by a certain like, you know, section of millennials who are just like this was it's like as the Disney like apex is starting to fade like it's post Lion King and and Little Mermaid and all these great musical movies with actually phenomenal songs. and it's like considered this like sort of flop that 's just this c cult classic. And that song is just like so good. I've had u a very short time on like Twitter and I think I only had two versions of Twitter bios and one of them was the song I tie is my personal religion. And if I freaky Friday with a ten year old boy, you wouldn't be able to tell the difference. So it's just I have to be truthful to myself. I love that song. If we listen to each other's heart, we'll find we're never too far apart. You're so dialed into the bad bit you were like right we got so many emails about Powerline. They were all from me.. onnce again. You have so many burners. I really I personally really spammed this episode. I'm gonna be. Yeah, I mean, Powerline, it's just like he's a great. It's also, it's doing the opposite thing. It's not that plot I mean, it's a plot important moment of the father and son like coming back together But I think Powerline in construction is actually pretty smart because it's like background to the story. It isn't our main character. We're like and now Powerline's gonna sing the best song of all time. It's like Max loves Powerline. You hear two songs by Powerline, but like it is background in a way that I think like takes some of that pressure off and allows it to just be like a really fun song where of course they have to do the perfect cast. But yeah, I just love that song so much. It's been on It was on many a mix CD even through high school, you know I think I just like slightly missed my Goofy movie. Just like I feel like it's like a micro genererational moment. No I mean, even like siblings on either side, it's just like, no, you had to be You had to be like seven when it came out Yeah And then be like, that s kind And then later like seven years later be like, am I crazy that song slap? And then like another seven years be like, no, we're wearing t shirts from hot topic about Powerline.. Yeah, it's really important. Powerling iss really important to me. And it's vocally like it's a really vocally impressive song, I think I'm nodding but I I've never heard it. No idea what you're talking about. Yeah. This work great for you every movie. Do you mean like the Disney character Goofy? I do, yeah. That's yeah's the Do you need to know the premise of the Goofy movie? Please. Okay, so Goofy, he's starting to feel a little like he's losing his son Max because Max gets in trouble on the last day of school for pulling off an elaborate prank, which is him performing the other power line songs standand out to try to impress a girl that he likes. and he gets like sent to the principal's office and then his next door neighbor is like, Max is gonna end up in jail They literally have There iss an animation of like a looming electric chair. But they're like, if you don't get in and stop Max from listening to rock music, he's going to ie He's gonna get the death penalty. Yeah. Well, call back to power line. Yeah, very true. This is theatic through les. Yeah, exactly. then Goofy is like, you know what, the time has come. I'm gonna take Max on this road trip that I took with my dad. It's the perfect road trip It's the perfect road trip route. And Max is like, I do not want to go on this road trip. I wan to like stay with my friends. It has a great opening number after today, M G is A today, you be mine. Okay, that's great. And then And then you see Stout, which is him singing lip syning as Powerline. And then it's one more song about like being on the road and they start to go to like some of the early stops and Max hates them. Then they start to Iye starts to thaw and it's a classic father son friendship relationship And then Goofy decides to give him the power to reroute. like you pick the stops, Max. this should be for both of us and he trusts him, but then Max is like, I'm going to route us instead to this instead of going to this fishing place, I'm going to rout us to the powerline concert because he told his crush back home that he's going to go to the powerline concert and he's going to be on stage and wave to her So then father and son have to come to terms and guess what They end up on stage at the Power Language.? Wow. Yeah. crazy random happens. I know Can you believe where they have to do the perfect cast. Bigfoots in it. H Dad soup. Paullly Shore voices his best friend Leing Tower of Cesese. No nothing. Wow. Not even a trailer in the backround. Nhing. Yeah, it's important. No Does Goofy's Son exist only for this movie? or is that is that a made a sequel where Max goes to college and also there was there was a Goof Goof Troop TV show. Yeah Yeah. Okay. That's where I know Max from. Yeah ye. I don't know why I know Goof Troop, but like miss the goofy movie. Yeah. I couldn't tell you. That's a real bummer. Yeah. That's real tough, real tough for me All right, Best cover song is the next category. I get the first pick. I am not gonna step on something that I know is important to one of you Just in case you want to No, you can do it. No, I'm not I to have a backup. But I have a front Okay, okay, okay, okay I want to pick U Balrum Blitz from Wayne's World this is a crucial taunt is the name of the band. Cassandra Wong is the name of the lead singer, played by Tia Carre, but this was like, this is one of those I didn't know this was a cover until later in life. Yeah. turnurn into a ball room, blitz, b room blitz, blitz. it's rules. and it's not You know, is it plot important? Yes, because it's like a part of Wayne falling in love with her and stuff like that, but it is just an absolute jam. What a badass rock babe lead singer in this band. and I just love this song. And we listened to it all the time growing up. So that's my fav. Huge, huge. Yeah. I cannot say or hear the words My drummer without hearing them in Tia Carea's voice. Yeah when he she's answering the question, whoo's Anthony? Who's Anthony? My drama. All right, Jessica what'sars. I'm gonna go with Mustang Sally and the commitment. Oh so good. I love that movie and I think like that's like It's a nice like coming together moment and it's just, yeah, they sound great particularly on that song. How did How did you watch that movie? I mean Oh yeah, yeah. Are you like, how old are you? I I should say besides like being like really setting my age so specifically that my Irish heritage is most of my personality. Okay. And so I think it was like I didn't catch it the first time around, but it was like, oh, do you know there's this Irish movie that you should see and that's about the whole sentence that I required. Yeah. So yeah, it's just I found it later. but the music is so great in it and Mustang Sally is like the one that I'm like, oh, that's the one that really sticks in my head. Yeah. So the commitments, which is a movie about an Irish band forming and In the is it late eighties, right? mid eighties the commitments? The storyline or the movie coming out. The movie coming out. Movie came out ninety one, I think. ninety one. Okay. But they yeah, they're trying to like capture this R and B sound And the big story out of that is Andrew Strong Who was seventeen years old, who plays Deckco Cuff and he is the lead singer. and you hear it on Musting Sally in all of these songs, he has this like incredible voice. And when you find out that he was seventeen years old when he made that, it is I'm learning this right now.. That's exactly same. Yeah. not seventeen. It doesn't look seventeen. Yeah. but ye Ireland's a tough thing But then, you know, the commitments was such a cool concert, you know, like Glenn Hansner is in it, Maria Doyle and then they toured as like a band after that movie came out. Yeah. So yeah. I was confused because Um Well, I'm giving away one of my answers l. But anyway, They great. All right. what's your cover pay? Okay I was torn between a couple of things, but especially given that we're doing a vampire themed reason for getting together, I have to go with Marceline the Vampire quQeen in Aventure timee. doing Francis Forever by Mitsky in the Battle of the Bands Th was so many cool nouns. Yeah. In a rbe. Yeah. I could not my head exploded. I was like, I couldn't figure out who was c Like everybody so cool. Yeah this thing existing. M Mitzky is so cool to have er song in Adventure Time, Adventure Time is so cool to have the song in there. and then Marceline is playing and she's just so badass and It's awesome. Yeah. ye. Adventure Time has such great music. incred. Yeah, a really good pick That's actually not the pick I I thought you were going pick the other thing you talked about in that email What was the other thing I talked about? Is it gonna come up later though? I don't know. Oh, okay. well and because my backup what can I say my backup? Yeah of course. My backup was Um Hey you Pink Floyd and Squid and the whale. because He presents it, Jesse Eisenberg's character presents it as if he'd written the song. And then he wins the talent competition. And Anna Pakquwin is the only person who knows that he didn't know. And when she calls him on it, she says, but I felt like I could have. so incredible You know, and for that character and like all the terrible lessons he's learning from his father about like authorship and it's just amazing. I love it. Amazing. I thought you were in a pick and this is this is my this would be my runner up Um, which is u The cover of the metric song Back Sheep in Scottilgrrow. Yes, yes. Brie Larson, Clash of Demon Head. That' I love metric. I love metric And I'm like, is that better than the metric version and it might be? So Honestly, it didn't even occur to me to put it in that category because like ballroom blitss for you, for me, that song is canonically by the clash of the. I think that' fair ye. A you must fair. All right, our next category is a best fictional band name . This feels pretty this feels tough to use this in this category, but I have to go with the soggy bottom boys I'm sorry that that means I'm taking off like for me that means I can't do anymore. Ohh brother. but It's just like it's incredibly it's an incredible name. And a now grown only more dear to me post great British bakeoff that they, you know, that's a different type of soggy bottom. I like that it's alliterative. It has like the it just sounds great. It sounds like the type of music. It fits perfectly Great, soggy bottom boys. Yeah. It's really awesome. Yeah. And also when you hear characters in the movie go like, hot Nang, it's the soy bottom. to say immediately evocative of the right type of like band you're trying to picture. It's like U it's just yeah, I guess it could be like Paul Hollywood's band, But other than that, it has to be like in the Delta Bluegrass. What kind of music would Paul Hollywood play in his soggy bottom booys? Oh gosh He would play probably like Yacht rock about breread. Yeah. like Yeah ye, like very like sort of like smooth I think like a smooth vocal line. I feel like he's very like butter You know, blue eyes. Yeah Yeah, ye butter. I went to the first thing I thought of was David Brent in the in the company retreat playing, u free love on the free love freeway. That's what I imagine. Oh, maybe I'm thinking that he would sound like Jerry Rafferty because Jer Rafferty wrote Baker Street I can just see Paul Hollywood doing that. I'd love it U All right, she. Okay. so controversial take, I think that band names are bad. Like just generally. Yeah. they're tough. It's hard to they're just I come from a worse area, which is improv names. Really bad. reallyally tough. Really tough. What was the worst like improv I mean I mean, when I was in college, I was on a team called Matador Now where we all shouted now. I think like some like gimmicky part of that always feels likeome to Matador Now Yeah Yeah, exactly. Yeah. My first herald team was called Mrter Town City and a guy always ran across and did like a cool kick No regress there, honestly I mean, yeah you just you have to have it. Yeah. It's part of it, but it's so hard to H a good one. Yeah.. And U, for me like there are really not There aren't really many good bandnames, like magnetic fields, and maybe that's it. that might be the end of the list for me in terms of like that's a great band name only fictional band name that I think that lives up to that. Mhm is uh pink slip? Yeah. Be Freaky Friday. Y. Okay. Like the magnetic fields, it works on two levels. and the meanings are so different between the two Um We had a lot of emails about Pink sllip, so do you want to talk a little bit more about? No, I shall I'll be the one to talk. Okay.. It's just a great name. It is a. Let's not get into the musicality exactly. No, please not no, no, no.. Don't make me talk about the mus. Great band name. Yeah. Stillwater, I think is similarly Stillwater feels de It's real time. Yeah ye It feels like feels like a real band name, but not one that I'm like, what a great band name. I don't know if this is an inspirational all, but I grew up in Mill Valley in Northern California and there is like a slightly iconic There bar in the town called Stillwater where like a lot of bands played. I have no idea if that had anything to do with what Cameron Crowed did, but that's part of why it feels like because you wouldn't it's much boogier now as all of Mill Valley has become. But like when I grew up there, like in the leftover the hangover of like a lot of rock stars lived in that area in the seventies like you know moving from San Frcisco to Mill Valley. And so like you'd go into Stillwater, which was a super dive bar and there would be all these cool like band photos on the wall. That's coolick that. Yeahah, still water. Um This is really hard to pick I have three really good kids. I'm going give it to doctor Teeth and the Electric Mayhem. Yeah the Muppet band. Yeah Yeah love them. Yeah, really good. I think Aura Boreala Shining Down in Dallas is one of the best lyrics that has ever existed of all time. So but the Electric mayayhem, like ye, that's a great. It's really good. I also love a long band name. Yeah. ye, you know Yeah I was just just in Chicago and I saw a poster for Annual Notice by the trail of Dead. and I was like, o, yeah. Yeah. ye. Yeah. there's there's something so great. If you can't be concise, just commit to extremely long. How do you feel about abbreviating that? Like should you say the whole band name or should you say KOL, which is not a long band name, I don't care well for Kings of Leon always bothered me. Yeah. I don't know why. Yeah, that doesn't hit. I mean, because you can easily just call them Electric mayhem. Yeah. and or like I guess we do the opposite with Sergeant Peer. we take it down to Sergeant Pepper Sergeant Pepper's only Heart Club band. Yeah. Like we don't call it the Hearts Club band. but like, yeah, I think taking it to just part, I think abbreviation, I don't really like as much. Yeah. That's why my favorite K pop band is behind the scenes. Yeah You and that's that's a that's a real one That's how you know you're a real fan, because you respect You respect them so much that you have to give them the entire time. Yeah. Yeah My runners up here and I just want to mention them are frozen embryos from my so called life. Ding is a my baby from Buffy Vmpireres ler I I think it's a good move similar to what we were saying about jokes and songs, like to intentionally name your band something ridiculous Yeah in the thing you know, like Mouse Rat or whatever where it's just like you're making fun of right How I should be in a band called Thingos At My Baby. Right. Yes. It's also like it's a great I mean, it's a classic scene in that thing you do of the O Eers versus the Wonders giving It's also good if you can ever show us the people thinking of the band nameame and give us a couple variety of opinions on the band nameam so that you're like, oh, great, they don't necessarily think it's great. Or if they do, and that's the point is for us to be like, oh, they're a little too high on their own supply. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What's theink street o Lai. Yeah, yeah yeah And there's also Cap and Geish the Srim shack shooters from that thing you do. They're They're fictional, fictional band. Right, amazing. Would you just call them the shrimphack shooters or the shooters? Shrimp shooters maybe. Shrimp shooters. Yeah. That's great. S something they think about I do want to share. this is nothing to do with anything, but one of my fondest memories is singing Kiss from a Rose with you at the Bffering prom this last year. That was so fun. That was fun. Yeah. Are we great? Am I a musician? No. Can I stand on stage next to him and sing Kiss from a Rose I can't. Did you pre planan the harmonies or did you have to fill it out? It was a group sing so you could just blend it the background. You know voices in unison. Yeah Unon. Yeah. I could just go as low as I needed to. It was fine. absolutely fine. All newews Sundays at nine, exclusively on AMC and AMC plus. I st. I'm a rock star now An R' of Mortal Universe comes what Vulture calls the most momentous event in fictional rock history. Thousands of fans l. I want millions Itight This is the Fampireless Dot, All new Sundays at nine exclusively on AMC and AMC pllus, stream now Looking to see what's happening around your home? Ring's battery doorbell helps you track packages and see who's at your door in real time. 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And then the song they play is a Philip Glass piece And it is so beautiful and so emotional I challenge people to watch that episode and not cry. Wow I love that when there's like when you're watching something like a comedy thing and then they're like, oops, fool do. We just incredible. So emotional. Oh my God. Yes. What a great pick He's like, yeah, I know. I killed a thousand yeah. It's a deep cut, but you can you can actually find the they put out the recording of the Wagstaff's Eience band playing that song. and it is on it was on my Christmas playlist this year. That's Is it just instrumental? It's instrumental. Wow. Yeah. and it's so nice That's really cool. Yeah All right. Um, All right, my pick is it ages and dates me. I'm picking the beats from the animated show Doug. Yeah. They have two hits that I will always remember. I almost picked this from most for best song. Is it killer tofu? Of course. O. Killer tofu. Wow. Yeah. No, no. Oh. And then there's I need more allowance. because I do That's a different song. Yeah, but you both knew exactly where to go. Well that's the weird one part. I think that might be all you hear of those two songs or just the. But the bes they're the beatles, but like, you know, they're the beats. and like spelled like a vegetable. Yeah,lled like Gotcha. gototcha.. And I think this is a Nickelodeon show. Yeah, yeah. I'm both old and didn't have cable is Okay. I had cable, but we didn't have like HBO or showhowtime or something like that. And I've discovering this every time they call me on to do the reatchables and I watch a movie, I'm like, wow, there are boobs in this. And I watched the like TNT cut or the USA cut. I didn't know how many boobs were in this movie. We all go through our own things. Just what's your answer here? Well also really quick, the music in Doug, like the intro music It's great. Like's really good It's like a apella sort of. Yeah It's great Patty mayonnaise. Yeah. Oh, there's also there's a great When they make a band, bang in on a trash can the street light, No no, no, no just under One l vice keeps calling me calling me one little voyice And they're like he dreams the music video because he comes up with the song on his band Joe and then everyone is like, Doug, we heard you have a band. We want to be in your band and it starts to get too big for Doug because really he just had his one song on the band. but then he imagines that they have like this big music video where they're in sort of giant suits, like like the talking heads and he wakes up and he just like writes down big suits. I love Doug. I' impressed by your recall. Well, I'm so sorry that I did have cable and I was of a certain age that I would just watch it on Absolutely repeat. Doug was very I think I like would know my day by the half hours of television. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. actually I have that as well. Yeah, but just, you know, ye, no cable. Sure.. J just an hour long block of the real ghostbusters. Yeah ye, totally Very important The beats were my first pick, but I have a strong second pick, which goes to my half hours of like it was on at six thirty. It was on at seven thirty. You could sit through the local news in between and then Primeime is start at eight, which is the specific episode of the Simpsons where they get recruited into a boy band called The Party Pse. Bart, Nilhouse, Nelson, Ralph And they have a song that the chorus is Ivan Net N. and they reveal later that they have been put together to get to be propaganda to have people join the Navy. Evan Net Niage backackwards says join the Navy. So it's like it's height of Inync and Backstreet Boys when this episode comes out They're just like doing boy band tropes about like, you know, and it's a great, you know, thing in an episodic Storytelling to just show the whole like arc in twenty two minutes, but their big song is Yvan Net Nij, which is joined the Navy backwards. Wow. Party pososse. And again, your recall of that hook is Yeah. Well, I consider joining the Navy. worked on it. It like. S on a boat? Yeah W of my dear friends? Jnty Cat? Janty Cat. Yeah. Crisp outfits, I know what to wear. Sounds good. Sounds great to me. Joining the Navy is such a funny thing too. like specific government propaganda, It's so pitched perfectly like insidious, but not that insidious, Just be like, I don't know, Iween the Navy? Yeah. thinkink about it. I love the we all pick TV shows. That's fun. All right. best real band cameo. So a real band that showed up in a TV or film playing themselves is sort of the idea here. So I'm going pick because I can Letters to Cleo in ten thingsings I hate aboutout you.ally because it's plot, it's important. They show up forice, there's a concert, they play the prom. Yeah. and then they play on the rooftop of the high school over the closing credits, which is an incredible moment. That'sally good. That's my f Solid. Yeah, that movie's perfect. I'm gonna also go, ways of me, right? Yeah. I'm gonna also go with a teen movie. I'm gonna go with the My Mighty Bossones. You Cuess This is like what you want to put together like an amazing list for us and then occasionally be like, I need something else here. And this was the one that I feel like I did the most ancillary like googling about. Like I don't actually nothing's coming to mind. And when I thought of this, I mean That moment of SA in the nineties is so funny to me and it was so like I don't know how Mighty M Boststones are from Boston, I think. Yeah. Was Scott big for y'all? Yeah. ye. Yeah. We had the Mighty Mighty of Aoststones. We we also had the Alstonians. Sure. Yeah, had we had a lot of. Yeah. and we had a lot in SoCal. I mean, like I feel like maybe the two epicenters of it, you know, and we started we started to go a little more pop punk. It's like obviously then into no doubt, traragic Kingdom huge My brother was in a Sa band called Whipped Gravy. You know, there was like there was another SA band called Blue Raz in our town. Like it was just like Whed Gravy. Yeah prettyty great. There was like one year where yeah, do you want to take it back about band names? I I wrong. They had The one song was called Calvin Crime I'm sorry, I do remember its ch as well. Calvin Crime, crazy kid next door. Calvin Crime, steal stuff from the store. Yeah. G know and then like the dedicated hype dancer. That's my favorite part about the My My Boss and Sk seequence includes also it's a great funny scene you know, ties like dancing alone. It has the full on Monet, which is just a classic line. And just to have the mind of my bossones in this like Beverly Hills highigh school party is just so funny, Denny It's really good. I'm going to take back what I said about band names all band names are bad except for Sa bands, which are all good. They're all they're all yeah. What's the what's the journey of Saw into like Gap ad swing band revival that happened at the end of the ninetin. Right to the odds. I so For me, there' you're jump jivving in whales. Yeah exxactly. your' cherherry pop and daddy. a band that I would just say in fourth grade. Yeah know. Yeah. L those were weirds. Yeah. those were words that I was likery pop and Daddy. Yeah. Ooof Woof Maybe it wasn't perfect in the n. I did that one thing. That is one of the only good band names. I know, it's great. It's great. Yeah, I think it was like, okay, we can put horns in things. and we're like, yeah, horns horns can be cool. Horns can be on K Rck. and then we were like, no, they can't. I think we just like immediately were like, never mind. Absolutely not. And it went I think some of the rhythms stayed in like pop punk, but they gotull the horns got pulled out. We were like, this is too dorky guys You banned geeks tricked us for a few years and now you fooled. Now the skaters are back like wearing our bases really low. loveove it. All right, what's your Okay, Re band cameo. This might be a very deep cut, but for me, we love a deep cut. Just number one. Have you seen the movie Fall and Leaves? Yes. Have you seen that movie? No. by Aki Karz finish movie. There's a scene with the real Finish band s certainly saying it's wrong Mouse itot Do you remember in the bar? they Yes, I just didn't know that was a real band. a real band. Okay. So pitch perfect for the actual movie. how weird it is and everything. They fit right in, but that is a real band called Mausititat, which is Finnished for Spice Girls Oh which is amazing because they are the two most dead pan like in a full of deeadpan people. Oh, that's so great. And they have a song I'm not even gonna to try and say, But you did most Titot so well. Yeah as far as I really from my heage like want to speak to these I'm going I'm going to ask Jess to say the Yeah, say the the name of this song. Oh my gosh Sentientn ya, Putty petty Miskin Born in sorrow, clothed in disappointment. Wow. That's translate to. Incredible. The first word is just consonance. Yeah.. Wow.redible. Have you been to Finland? No. I went to Finland and it was cold. and other lovely things about it. but my husband and I really wanted to try to see the Northern lightights so we booked one of the like a glass cube where you could just like stare at the sky all night. We did not see them. It was too foggy. And also they were all really expensive. we had two nights in Finland and we were like, okay, well let's stay somewhere more affordable than the other nights that we can like really splurge on this. So we're just in like an Airbnb. and in our Airbnb is like, here's we gave you soaps, we gave you towels, they also gave us vitamin D , they were like, Hey, ye, tough out there. Tough out there. Yeah. you're not going to get any of this naturally. I was like, this is so thoughtful and also, oh gosh. I certainly could not live here. And yet and yet voted as indicated by Mustet Tot's album title The happppiest Do know, I think part of that though, is is an acceptance of a c of a certain hard or they just just everyone maintaining on vitamin Exactly. Or they always take that survey in the summer. You know, like they're like, Oh, I don't know. I forget. I don't know who I was for the past seven months, but sun's here. Y. But actually I remember when we were driving around, we put like just local radio on and it was like close to Christmas and there were a lot of like, I was like, I think I have to look up some of these finish Christmas songs, like this has got some great kind of like ike I can imagine if I could hear the lyr becausecause it would be like, Santk came on a dragon. Please please write Sand on a dragon. I think you've already started halfway there. No worries. Please let that be the end closing song for this episode. S to came on a dragon All right, most impactful musical performance as story Back to you Jess U I'm gonna go with, okay, I've okay, yeah, I think it's just It is such an important hinge moment in the story. I'm going to go when they are writing, falling slowly in once. think It was it's just like And I thought of like, oh, the times when it's more like a culmination moment where someone finally like takes a stage and you know what they're singing from. but I think in the get backack documentaries, I think everyone's like maybe favorite part is like watching them think of get backack. And just it's really hard to like show what a songwriting process feels like. And obviously this one's fictional, but they're both, you know, actually music. They just it feels so authentic and it's so important in the story. And then it's just an incredible song. I was gonna have to like have once on here somewhere. And I think what that does in the story is just so important without being like particularly showy And they're in like in like a music store, you know and it's like, I don't have the words yet, but it's like d. And then even the same way that it feels very uthful He takes it to double time to get her to the next section. He's like, you know, then it continues. he ups the time signature so he can sing through the next part and then it's something like this. It was like, yeah, this is pretty perfect And It's a great song. It's a perfect pick. And Glenen Haner already had chops of being in a movie. 'cause he was in the commitment, which I didn't know. Yeah. ye. ye. There you go. That song was almost in my favorite covers list. From Last Man onn Earth.. Yes. An incredible scene. Yeah. Also an under a little slept on show, I feel like. abbsolutely It's a great show. And it does that thing where it really barrels through plot in like a really brave way. But yes, Will Forte and Jason Studeas as brothers singing this song as karaoke over and over and over again is great. Yeah. And then it becomes just like a trope running throughout the show Yeah till the end after that. Yeah. just so good. Yeah All right, what's your pick My pick is, u Death of Queen Jane and inside the Davis. We lost her. Yeah. Oh my gos. Absolute life ruiner. Oh my go just It was R at the moment when my my writer's block, which at the time I did not know would last a decade had kind of started. And then that scene was basically like I was like, yeep, yeah, that's that there it is. that's it. whole moment is so brutal and so real and That movie is a horror movie. and I just The F Murray Abraham reaction at the end of like I just don't see a lot of money here it just That feels like so real Like just like the swell season once, you know thing feels real in the creation, this feels like this is how dreams die. because his performance of it is absolutely real Like you see him actually do it. Yeah It's good, it's competent You have to wonder, you know, they don't do the camera panning around a thing to be like, this is. E M Abraham's loving. And you're just dying with the suspense of how this is going to go. Yeah. And it turns out it doesn't go just everything about that. Um Its just one of the worst things I've ever seen in terms of my own heart. Yeah. Oh my God, kills me absolutely kills me. And I love that song too. so good. I am going to pick Remember me from Coco, You know, which is really good, reallyally good. Multiple times moie, but when it is like comes through the very end it's just like absolutely on the floor right. This is why you didn't want us to tell our answers in advance so you could have this. Yeah. Oh go. That's really good. No just I love when people can like organically react to pickics or be like, what the fuck is that? Yeah That's right. I need to tell you the plot a gie movie But yeah, I mean, remember me is just' beautiful and outstand And like the, you know, I love that in a musical or a song by music when you hear a song one way and then you hear it another way later and you're just sort of like, oh go.. o my Godd. and the meanings the meaning of the lyrics I don't think I've ever cried more in a movie in my life than I did at the End of Coco. It's still my favorite pixar movie. So ye. good one. Yeah. That's my pick. Really good. Thank you. My hardest cry is it a Pixar movie. you as well U all of them. Yeah. Yeah Toy story three. Twoy Story three. Yeah. Twoy Story three got me. I mean, Coco got me A the beginning of Ital now, so I don't know what an achievement it is for them, but yeah. they get you every time. When Bing Bong inside out. actuallyually a lot of inside out. Yeah Okay, actually inside Out didn't get me as much because was I think Too abstract. Interesting. I don't think the whole thing got me, but Bing Bong definitely got you when he imag finding your imaginary friend in the rubble. Come on. And he sacrifices himself for you? Yeah. ye. sacrificing yourself, that is that's always gonna to get me. That's like Project Hel Mer I don't know this, but like well, I was just thinking of I was making me think I was just thinking of Project Hill Mary I like, oh, that sign of the Times performance also so good. Yeah ye. Oh my god, Sandra H. Beautiful. Yeah ye. Amazing. ye. I love that they were like the story behind that where they were like, oh, Rang Gosson's like, oh, she should sing. And she's like, it must be Harry Syles. I must reinvent Sign of the Times. so good. So good. I love her. All right, bigig ones L, best album. where she you get the first pick here. Mine was the commitments. Yeah. Yeah because Before I saw the movie, I experienced the CD. My sister had it.. I have an older sister and she was like, this is great. And so this was the spoiler that I was trying to avoid for that answer I just listened to that album and I just thought they were a real band. Yeah. And I thought they made the movie about the band Oh nice W the band. Yeah. Like I thought it was a biopic. Right. You know, I mean, I was I was a child. Yeah. Yeah. ye. but ye like Jimmy Rabbit, he's real. Yeah. I just thought I was like, how did they? Yeah. I guess oh yeah, they just asked the band to do. Sure. I mean, it like like a kneecap situation. Yes. not my p, but because I'm Irish. Irish. Yeah and we just listened to that album over and over again. I was just like this is great It was actually how I got introduced to a lot of like soul classics. Yeah is through this Irish bandc. I mean moovie soundtracks introduced me to so much music in general. Yeah. So but yeah. was it your experience that the year that Forest Gump came out, everyone got that like I feel like I was like fortunate son my favorite dog. just like I feel like everyone's you got every dad you knew the Forest Gump soundtrack. The Double CD. The double was red and one was blue. Yeah, absolutely. Bore Um, All right, my answer is I feel like I should I'm like, shouldhould I just talk about o brrother again or should I talk about That's what I mean, I very like you should ' I feel like it's real category fraud that I put them in name. That's how I felt personally. I was like, wait, it doesn't take it off the table for the other people. so someone can still talk about. I mean, I feel like I will just say, I listen to the Inside Loomin Davis soundtrack. It's like a weirdly a Christmas album for me. I listened to it every year at Christmas. I think because a movie came out Christmas and' like every time Trooke is very cozy. It's like cozy it's sad, but it's just sort of like in that like Charlie Brown Christmas kind of way tootal I'm like Christmas time. Yeah came ona dragon Oh gosh Youve gotta make this song. Please make it a sad song. Mbe you guys should collab. Maybe you should be able to like be played multiple ways. Yeah. I'm in I think this is gonna to be like a breakaway. I think so, yeah. Number one on the UK charts the Christmas single. Oh Santa came on the Dragon. That's all that's that's what's the song in about Boy A about B boys. That's another great like Yeah. I always think about that with with like, oh, if you could write a Christmas song Yeah Do you get this thing where you like incoming emails like, do you want to write a a Christmas song and they come in July. No, but if you want, you can. Yeah. Yeah. do you get constantly bombarded in July? I would like. But in the summer, there'll be a thing where it's like every TV show or like mov all the things that are like looking for new original holiday music Those requests come come they start coming around now I do have to say that I mean, this could maybe still happen one day, but a friend of mine pitching an animated holiday special version of snakes on a plane. And for where like Samuel L Jackson as himself safes Christmas and for the pitch he had Zach, my partner and I write And we wrote in the style of like the Cobra starship Snakes on a plane, Snakes on a sleigh. And so it's kind of a bop. Yeah. Wow. But yeah, I'm sure I think we deserve a whole Christas album for. Yeah. Yeah. Snakes On a Sleigh and Sant Yeah Yeah, absolutely. But I will pick Oh Brother. just because like we get the Soggy Bottom Bys tracks We get the Siren's song the go to sleep a little bit or and then we get down to the bom and pray like and all of it is sort of is this Is this cheating? Is this just a soundtrack? but like it's all diegetic inside of the, you know the oh death song, like all that's incredible. And then like what that album did With that album, what Tibo Burnett did for, you know, folk music or Aaligian music and stuff like that and that whole revival. But I like burnt a hole in that CD and that was like, I don't know if I still if I still would put it in my Top five. Um favorite movies, but for a long time, I put Ohbrother in my top five favorite movies. And now you can count this as Odyssey prep. Exactly. Exactly. R. And I'm always thinking about Odyssey. You know what I mean? It's the last great depiction of the Odyssey cinema. Right? It really is. Nothing nothing as clear since. Do you know about the Odyssey musical No. Okay, I've been getting a lot of emails about it. Well, they're for me. More partnterers, moreers All right Jess, what's your pick? Similarly, it's like soundtracky because there's multiple artists so, but I have to go with pop star which I just I had to have stop stop stopping. Yeah, never stop, never stopping. I have to have it on the list somewhere for me I love Lonely Island. alsoso like the songs that they write for Hunter the Hunted,, the Chris Red sort of Odd future inspired character is are also really great. They play in like a bunch of genres really well. likeike theres the songs are legitimately like so good and another movie that I think It has like grown grown, but just shock to me that it isn't like the biggest movie ever. It's so funny. The songs are so good. And yeah, his songs as Connor four real. I'm so humble and like the production value on it is really great and sounds like That is a time period I do feel like I understand what the sound is supposed to be Yeah and they just do it so well. Yeah. Yeah, I'm glad you got them in there because U usually I mean, they're just so good at Yes making music. Making music. Yeah. yeah. but in a sketch, you know, it wouldn't it wouldn't really qualify for most of these, but yeah. So good This episode is brought to you by Nas Energy Every ounce of dirt sweat and gears, every checkered flag and trophy raised, every lap, every race, every hard fought place They're all jammed inside every can of NASA energy High performance energy for burning the midnight oil in the garage and pedal to the metal, human horsepower For the streets, go ahead, crack open a can of NS energy and get after it. Best fictional band.'t you look at that I get first pick. Honestly, this is random. I randomized this, but here we are Which means I get to honor my tattoo in Pixill waterater from Almost famous here. Heck yeah, Thieve dog, like incredible stuff. I mean In terms of movies about a band, There are so many that I love, honestly, we haven't even covered them all, but almost famous is So important. And I believe in Stillwater. I believe in Jeff Beabbe. I believe in Russell Hammond. I believe in all of them. And yeah, that's my pick Yeah, it's a great one. It's also like a great one about being a fan, I think, and loving something. And I think that's like a great part about movies about music is that I think it is ultimately the thing that we all understand the closest. not everyone you meet is going to have like an encyclopedic knowledge, but everyone has like a favorite song Yeah. And so yeah Almost famous is perfect for that. Yeah, we can come back for another episode just to talk about how great that movie is. Okay, great. let's do it. I'll figure out a way that it's House of Artj Jent know way. Odyssey prep. There's a moment, you know, when they're doing the B ride T dancer. ye. I was when that movie came out, I had gotten really, really into for the first time, I had just gotten into Red House Painters. I was listening to so much Red House Painters. But I had no idea what Mark Coslek looked like. And then they go into that song and then suddenly I hear this voice and I'm like Wait, what is happening? What you know, and it's unmistakably him and it's amazing. Oh it's Mark Kzlak is in Yeah in the bay. Yeah, yeah. Oh my God, it's amazing. I remember when they The one and only time I went to the Oscars they did a They did a sorry What They did a montage of sort of like music in movies and I was like, are they do are they to show Tiny danc? And they showed it and I burst into tears and not a cool story. the Oscars in like formal wear like crying at the Dolby Theater because Tidy Dancer was on the screen and I'm like, Yes, cinema matters. It's so good. It's important to me U J best fictional band Okaykay, I think I'm I'm I'm gonna go with Mitch and Mickey from A Mighty Wind. That's a sound that's not, I think my favorite is waiting for Guffman, but A Mighty Wind like holds a super special place in my heart and the music is so good. That's an album that I like played on a million times. A million times. and like the songs that they feature about them are great The soundtrack has a song that isn't in the movie called The Ballad of Bobby in June about a Civil War soldier that is so beautiful that I have like on many a road trip to forced people to listen to. I'm like, do you know about this song? It's like actually just good, you know It's a track from a Mighty Wind that was not in the movie.. it's great actually. Yeah. Let me teach you something in here m About music. Okay. Obviously, I felt like, yeah, I wanted to honor the of the late great amazing Katherine O'Hara, who is, I think, a great example of like bringing an authentic voice when she sings both of them. like they just they sound like humans. I do think there is like a through line here. I think folk music is a more successful genres to sometimes put in films because they're story songs, they don't necessarily rely on having vocalist as being front and center. It's about like telling a story. There's plenty of folk voices that we have in the like Uvraa that aren't good voices. So there's a lot more forgiveness for how they should sound and they should just sound like themselves and Mitch and Mickey are just like kiss at the end of the rainbow and then are they going to do? I love that part where the folksmen are like, I remember this. Oh this is that really pretty one How they gonna do the kiss? How are they gonna handle? And they all like walk out to watch? We all run up to watch. Yeah And also a movie about an era and then who's everyone's favorite? Like who's the musician's musician, you know, in the way that they feel about Mitch and Mickey. So I love a Mighty Wind. That's a soundtrack I've played a thousand times and specifically within it, Mitch and Mickey are just God here We watched that when Katherine O'Ha die, that was sort of like the project we picked to rewatch. and I was like crying kiss at the end of the rainbow. It's so beautiful Eugene Lovey. and yeah. And then like everyone is in the wings of the theater waiting to see what they do there. And it's just like so tender. It's so beautiful My pick is not the band whose music I necessarily love the most, but the one who I want them to win. I want them to succeed the most. And School of Rock. Oh yeah, that's great. Yeah I just love them and I don't know that I've ever felt I had my version of, you know, just like crying because I of feeling so when in the scene, it's like, I shouldn't be in the band. Why? I'm not cool. And the way that Jack Black just absolutely rejects that n. What you talking about you're cool Like sim it's just A it's a good it's a good B side with almost famous The only real currency the only true currency in this bankrupt world Is what you share with someone else when you're uncool Yeah. Yeah. and is it Linus? Is that his character's name? What's the character's name? Who plays the keyboards anyway? when he or Lawce. Lawrence is like, I'm not cool and he's like, You are cool. Yeah ye Yeah. So I love this. That's a great pick. And like a great use of Jack Black and a whole like commitment to, you know music inside of his comedy. I Yeah, I'm realizing, yeah, is he has one of my favorite voices. like I love his singing voice. H range is unbelievablebelievable roock high belts that he can hit are just insane. Yeah, he's so, so good. Yeah and makes it effortless. Yeah. ye. I was I became a Jack Black fan for life after that. Yeah, perfect, perfect pick. All right, Lifetime Achievement Award This is a word I made up just so I could talk about one person, but we can talk about a number of people here. So Jess, what do you want to talk about? Well, I'm glad that you made that adjustment and I'm glad that I already interpreted it that way because I'm going say Chrishergest and Michael Mcean. because I think also, It's like you got to talk about spinal tap somewhere. And then the through line that they are the duo that wrote, you know a lot of the music forum I youew wouldn', even though I love the way Mitch and Mickey perform it. I just think that their music is beautiful and like their ability to write in multiple genres, their ability to have it play comedically, but also sincere is they're huge for me Persally Michael McCain played it at the Oscars, right? Like he did Yeah he and maybe his wife ort, I don't know, but he played it because yeah, he wrote it. And he's so. It's so good. Yeah. An beautiful voice. And yeah, I feel like it would be wild to not have any allillusion to Sinal tap in this onene of the great great bands of movie history. But I think for me, it's more the mighty wind was was more connected to me than Sinal Tap. But yeah, they write incredible music. That's a great pick And I want to cede my time. have so you can talk about yours because I know it's very important to you. Well, let's all talk about Adam Schlesinger, the late great Adam Schlesinger, who not only wrote That thing you do But also some of the music for Josie and the Pussy Cats, which incredible. We haven't talked about but is one of my favorite fional bit. I could have nominated them in every single category. And also well I also wanted to been on your time so that we could also talk about crazy ex girlfriend. Yeah yeah, of course. Yeah. So he part of Founds of Wayne, a band that I love. A lot of people know Stacy's mom, but like there's just incredible songs. I love the song Hck and seex. Yeah much. If I ever get back to hack and sex it's so beautiful. Yeah. Hey Julie is like an absolute bob. I know, like their music does not sound like Stacy's mom.ac mom is like such a funny outlier. Yeah, like a real novelty that hit. But I love Founds of Wayne So yeah, did he did at song for that thing you do. He did pretend to be nice from Jesseie and the Pussycats and like collaborate on some of the other stuff, but that's like that's a great that's supposed to be the song in that movie. And that's sort of like like Popstar, a movie that did not hit when it came out and has really grown in people's destination. I have A Dujor bumper sticker around my car. I have the vinyl that they put out. Like I'm a huge Joseie and the Puuszyasts fan Three small words, which he didn't write on, but like Babyface produced all the music Yeah on that album. But the fact that he wrote pretretend to be Nice, which is their like hit where it's like, foo like it's a really great pop song. And that thing you do is insane. And then talk about his work on Crazy Ex Girlfriend. Well, Crazy exx G girlfriend, I think that the music in that show is Similar to I think a lot of the picks that we've had is like better than it needs to be. Yeah tootally. You know, like it just needs to reach a certain level to serve the function of whatever. and u But those songs were legitimately great And they play with genre really well. Yeah, I'm buds with Rachel. She's a genius, but she would like, you know, Adam and then another one of their significant co writers, Jack Dulgen, incredible music. and just like a total span of genre not playing necessarily into like musical theater tropes, even though characters are breaking into song. Yeah. incredible stuff. Yeah. And Zach sure when Yes You did the incred, you know, epic rap battles of history history. Yeah. yeah, yeah. did the jap battle, which is an Yes. Yeahah, that's a great one I gonna he some honorable mentions that we got from listeners before we call a day unless there's me. all of Jess's other burners. I will say the other people like I was, you know, Christopher Gess is one that I was thinking of for this. John Carney. Yeah talked about Sing Street and once Yeah. I didn't end up using Sing Street, but I love Sing Street. Sing Street' amazing It's beautiful Like some of that music, Brown shoes was my second choice for impactful musical performance and like switches into into music video mode. Yeah like it's yeah, but that's a great We're find sound and they play in genre. so it's such a great device. Drive it like you stole it. Yes. Riddle of the model. Yes Yeah, great stuff. Love Sing street. Riddle of the model is a song. That they come too too quickly though. Yeah you're like, that's a true bob. got there too. You did not just write that old thing. It like, And then for the chorus I was thinking maybe this, here are the chords and all the melody.. These kids can't be geniuses. O listener Ian wre wrote in about Hedwig and the Agry Inge. something that I really thought of. That one's a little tricky because that was a stage musical which became a movie and then back to a stage music Y. Is it a musical? The lines are blurry. It's pretty ye Yeah. that was mine sing. That when in Dream Girls like the lines are kind of blurry on like musical versus like Yeah Be obviously yeah, when it was like impactful musical, it's like, yeah, it's probably gott to be effy singing, but then you're like, that's definitely that was the closing act of the Tony' that year. That's like music That's a musical theater. I felt same way about Heedwig, even the origin of L loveve is one of my favorite songs of all time.ood Yeah. ye. incredibly good. That song is so long. It's like what five minutes or so. love a long song. A cououple movements. Yeah. Really good. Storytelling song. Yeah. Santa came in on a dragon That's right. it'll haveultrag. Santaid a dragon It'll have multiple movements. No, no, it was definitely Santa came on a dragon.. It was definitely that. Okay, don't forget away Yeah. No, no, I won't recogn. It' like it came on a dragon.. Very important. And that's how he first Yoves. Oh my God, it's gonna be in a Lord of the Rings crossover. Yeah, probably Yeahog. Yeah. Definitely and then could beouse House of our coded. Oh, it's very like lying the way in the wardrobe where like Santa just an Narna. Yeah, that's just where it lives. know Santa is Gandalf known by another name. Absolutely. I mean, Santa does have many many names bro. This is why we had a shake on it. That is why it's a coab And it's not even July yet. You have time to get it's done the turn.. I love it. Mouse Rat our listenerers shout out of Mouse Rat. I mean, bye bye Little Sebastian is an incredible song. Hep Alien from Gilmore Girls, I thought was a fun because Sebastian Bach is like becomes part of the cast of that show. it's just like really fun. One of my picks for worst band nameame though. Yeah abbsolutely. I don't disagree Um I post this because I have not rewatched this film because it's scarred me so much, but the Ain't writes from Green Room A punk band. That movie is one of the toughest movies I've ever watched. It's incredibly good. But our listener wrote in was like, this is like this is what a punk show really like. That's cool. It feels like and it's so hard to capture that. so they really wanted to We got a lot of all of J's burners. And then some this is a really interesting one. I don't want to like again, we're celebrating, we're not neggging anyone, but we got a couple shout outs for Daisy Jones and theix, and that's like that's actually like a really tough one for me because I was obsessed with that book. I loved that book so much And that's tough because that story lived in my head where you couldn't hear the music and I imagined what these songs would sound like and what the collab of these two songwriters would sound like. So like though the Amazon show was like good in many ways, I think I just too like huge in my head. So when I finally like heard those songs, I was like, that's not what I was imagining. and I'm sure they're well written, but they didn't hit you know, the way that I wanted them to, Does that make sense? Totally. Yeah. Yeah. ye. It happens. Any shout outs for Wolf Bird? No, noone none for Wolbd. Not yet. you should get on those burners, you know, Yeah yeah. You have to steer these episodes, don't you know? This is the last one It's from Kelly and she wrote, I feel compelled to put forth a fictional band that brought more joy to my childhood than any other. The Irish band in Third cllassroom Titanic. Oh absolutely. The band the film is the real life band Gaelic Storm. who have a fabulist. And I've been to a Gaelic Storm concert and they have a song called Don't let the trruth G get in the wayay of a Good Story. And one of the lines of that is I was in some blockbuster movie and I didn't make a dime. So I just lik that lore from Gaelic Storm that got like in Titanic and perhaps got paid a day rate or whatever. We're in like one of the biggest movies of all time. they're probably just playing like reals. They're probably playing an Irish phone music. Yeah notothing to be in trouble because you didn't m because of your people. Yes. I will. unfortunately. I got a kneecab. I goting street. Please just watch Dairy Girls All right, do we do it kind of as best we could? Yeah. I'm Fanning. I have to throw in one more honorable mention, which is the one that I replied in our email chain, which is a song that actually does stick in my head from the Brittany Murphy movie Upptown Girls with Dakota Fanning There's a pop star it who has a chorus that is nah nah, nah nah, nah, na, Sheets of Egyptian cotton. But I think literally anyt timee I'm shopping for sheets. I had never seen that movie, even though I'm aware of it. I mean it's like Yeah. yeah, it's Britty Murphy Takota fanning and Jes Spencer from House. Yes. Or as I know him, Jesse Spencer from the Olson twwin movie Winning London. There you go. Yeah. I'm still trying to figure out your age. I know But I watch the clip that you sent. and it's a real powerful moment because like basically the premise is she's like your song needs a hook. Yes. And so because he writes this very like maudlin like sad and she's like, well, there's no hook. and then he puts a hook in that is nah n n n, n, sheets of Egyptian cotton. I think it's born out of their like loveve Trist weekend where because she's the daughter of a rock star. Okay. she's like, if I know one thing, it has you need a hook and then it takes off. Yeah. And she tries to make him a cool jacket and he gets mad Yeah. because doesn't she ruins She ruins his jacket with her cool fashion. Oh no. It's a weird movie. But that song, I'm like, why is this song in there and thus in my head for I will say that the clip you saident where he like plays her he hasn't told her he's written book and he just like plays the recording for her and then he like looks up and he's like, Yeah, I put that hook in for you. She' just like, Oh my go. Yeah. W Vertdie's powerful. Yeah good. Is there anything we' ha't mentioned that you wantan to make sure? Yeah I wanted to shout out an amazing moment in an amazing movie, but also personally significant to me which In the movie Short term twelve. Yes. There's a scene, do you know that movie? Short term twelve from twenty thirteen Free Larson. Yes. The cast is insane. It's a lot of people just before they get really famous. Rrie Larson, Romy Malik Stephie Beatriz. Oh Dan Keith Stanfield, Caitlin Dieaver. What the heck? It' crazy. Yeah. And there's a scene where What Keith? is he's about to it's a it's like a foster care program and he's about to age out of it. and sort of like it kind of like exit interview. Oh, John Gallgher Junr. is also in. And and he performs a song that he's written called So you know what It's Like, which is on the soundtrack. and is just devastating. Like it's in character. It's about him he's talking he's rapping him about his mom ends with him saying, look into my eyes so you know what it's like to live a normal to live a life not knowing what a normal life's like. And it's so brutal. I saw the movie when it was South by South A.s Iot. Oh, really? Yeah. yeah. And I were South by That's cute. And I went and I asked a question during the Q and A about that song about like, who wrote it? You know, because I was like, Destin is an amazing screenwriter. do you have that? And he was like, oh no, you know, Laeith answered it. And then I talked to LeKith afterwards about it and then we started a band together because of because of, this is year I went to the Oscars. This is wow, wow. what c. Wow. Oh my go God, I didn't know that. We have I mean, we put out one EP. That's amazing. A few singles, but we have a project called or had a project called MO. That was because of that. That's awesome. Yeah. That's cool. Yeah. Have you seen I love Boosters? Not yet. L Keith is so good. I've been onour while while it came out. so now that I'm home, I got it It's really good at it Anything we haven't mentioned, An incredible actor that you've started a band with? Oh yeah. Well, when I was at the Oscars, ye. We met Leonard Diabria. He was like, I think what's missing from my career is a holiday band.a camet on to drag it. Oh okay.. All right, let me just like zoom through to see. speaking of Jack Black, Barry driive and the up down five high fidelity.es very important Banon I almost picked U Maril Lal from that movie doing O baby I L loveve your wayay for the cover because it's like so good when they're like Yeah. Is this that song? Yeah get amazing. The Blues Brothers we haven't talked about, but that seems important to talk about. I talked about SA. Yeah and they dressed like they might be in a Sa. And we talked about the influence of Chicago comedy in music. Very true. Yes. and they're both from secondecond city, though Dan Ackrids from the Toronto So c Outpost. Yeah. ye. So yeah I love it. Chris Victorious Friday Lights. they just did a reunion in Austin. Aazing. It was incredible. so I want to mention them Dvehaft from Lost You all, everybody. veryery important. veryy important to me Over the Garden Wall just has like such beautiful music. so I wanted to mention that as well. Chris Isaac. Yeah sings. Yeah, yeah. Oh my God. That's such a magical little thing. A whole separate category is I also love like a something that has supposed to be like a folk song in a different like a different timeline or something, like Game of Thrones you know, or Lord of the Rings, like any of these like old story songs moments, those are also like always. you love the Bear of the Maiden Fair. Yeah, of course Yeah, we didn't talk about Jonesy or Ed Sheeron. Yeah. Yeah. I thought about that, but it was like, yeah, but it's like, but that's also another great where it's like, oh, this song This is a different universe. this song could be like a thousand years old or five hundred. Like you don't have a relationship to it, so it exists in its own place. I felt this way about the recent sea shanty in Widows Bay. Y. L man. Yes. As're in my arcade fire. Yes. and Neil Casey is my buddy. And so I was like texting like, can I get like just Can I get some demos of this? Like the I want the deep t. Yeah.. That show' so. It's so good. Have you watched What is Bay? Yeahah, I haven't seen that. I think I'm up to the first three episodes. Okay ye yeah. It's like episode five. Yeah. It's really good. So good. Yeah. Almost done here. Oh I would be remissed Lustra featuring Matt Damon from Eurorips, Scotie doesn't know. Yes. and very important song. Yes, this is the one thing my husband said when I was told him about the. He was like, are you whereere are you putting? Sot he doesn't knowiona and me. Yeah, it's very Like Matt Damon is lip syncing, the real band Lustra is playing, he's lip syncing the lead singer. Damon being there is really like part of what makes that whole. I've never seen Euro Trip, but I've seen that up a thousand times. Yeah. And he's just like he just like airlifted in from elsewhere in Europe where he was filming and his heads shaved for some reason. he' just like Do this song where he Lets our main character know that he's been like fucking his girlfriend this entire time. Tometimes in a car. Yeah after while you were at church like whatever. Yeah. I think we did it. I really think we did it as best we could. Shout out Sex B Bom and That's it. Wild Stallions, Bill and Ted. That's the end of my list. Okay. Ramona, by Beck, that almost made it on my list. Oh my god. Yeah from S Yeah, from Scott Pilgrims. Scott Pilgrim Rle.uch good music Yeahah. All right, well, thank you to Scottley and Jacob Cornett, who's here, Cameron Denwoody who is editing this podcast. Tamali and Asentia so that I could get away with making this episode here Thank. Thank you, Mallory. Thank you both of you for being here.. This like filled my heart with such joy. You guys really crushed it. 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