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Greetings And welcome to House of Art A Ringerverse podcast on the Ringer podcasts networ I'm Mallie Rubin, joining me today. She's your friendly Neighborhood Podcaster It's Joanna Robinson. Hype, hype, hype Joanna, No one can stand between us at home and no one can stand between us. in the summer height met It is a cherished seasonal house of our tradition. seal seasonal is. That's part of the tradition is we make up the seasons for how they sued us in the release Bahar. Yeah We will refresh everybody on the rules. Right And regulations getet into yeah, there are some regulations rules and regulations. And the practices practices, worst practices. you can say in our portents of what's coming the summer. Exactly. We're going to refresh everybody on all of that and then get to our top tenents right after this This episode of House of our is presented to you by Target Call it all trainers. 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It goes on in perpetuity as far as we're concerned But yeah, I mean, it was really fun to have pals on. So, you know, we've got this studio, we've got this big old couch. You to be our friend. Let us know What' I've got a couple pals coming in to fill in. takes two of my best pals to fill in for one Mallory Ruben, while she'll be off around the world and so we're doing a sort of musical themed Musical less like Jazz hands musical and more like music, musical in anticipation of the vampiriless stat. So something at completely formed my idea of what this episode is gonna to be, but One thing I know we want to talk about is like best fictional bands. So Hobbinson Dragonsontmail d. coma if you wantna nominate a fictional band that you love that you want us to talk about.cited. We've got a couple experts coming out to talk about that kind of thing. so I'm excited. Maybe I'll throw you some nominations. Oh, please Anything off the top Th baby. Thingingsin my baby of course, top top of mind given the buuffy reewatch. And you know, we're almost famous St entusias is still water like past come on. Yeah TheQ questestion really is just how high on the list, not whether they're on the list. Crusif Victorious. How are you about Christian me mandre ofolves, I'm an enthusiast.. Okay, it sounds like you've got your top three Great. Speaking of women not invited, as usual, not welcome to participate here at the Al Par any of our height meter selections involve women at all we'll find out. I don't know. Speaking of L stat, ye After that Musical extravaganza, The next podcast that we record will in fact be, I believe. Premiere episode Yes the reaction to the preremiere of Vampire Lastette, and I'll be wearing the thing that I bought. Great. I will be occasion You will be supporting your incredible hair cout, which I don't know that we've talked about on mic, but everyone is loving in the comments and the emails and stuff like that. A to chop it the chop. it looks so good. Thanks. It always looks great. Just had to be chopped. but it looks super cute. I appreciate it. Disclosure dayay. Not far after Listat. So that is a thrill, veryy exciting. We are looking forward to seeing that soon. We haven't seen yet I think it'll be on our height meters We'll see how high we'll find out in mere moment. We're about to see it that. We are about to see it Boiler warning for the height meter. you know, there isn't really one. L we've not seen any of the things that we're going to be king about mayaybe you've watched a screener or two for one of the installments. cororrect. That's it. That's literally it. And so the was actually I recall in real time. D toe. I have did a toe Soitary fang Solitary fang. exactly. We will, of course feele free to reference things from prior season, some pending release, things like that might come up. and then of course, trailers esting news, marketing, anything like that, fair game. But we're not spoiling anything from the stuff that hasn't aired because we don't know what's com yet. It's pure hype. We live in the moment in hy draft.'s part of the joy of it Uh should also say like because we're banking this early It's like entirely possible that another trailer for one of these things comes out before this airs and that will not be accounted for on this podcast if it happens. I know. A hot D entntertertainment Weekly cover dropped this very morning and I have not had a chance to look at it. Meough. Okay We will not be bring that information If we had time, we would have read it, but it would dropped here hours ago and I didn't have time. So. Yeah, if new dates come out in the next week, sure. If there's a House of Drag trailing around before, while Mallory's away for work. Yeah. Great news. you have three hours of past hot D season three trailer podcasts. Perhaps just me on a mic for two hours just every single frame. That would be great. W No one here to help me en being lte Me just being like, show me that dragon, but the whole staff is on this work trip. and so it'll just be me screaming into the void. which one? Listen, CR is going be in town. Content is content you're doing D that dragon. He's available. All right, shouldhould we get to our rules refresher? Please for the summer height meter? If you've listened to one of our prior height meters and we've done a lot of them at this point. We've been done these for like four years, so I think. Sometimes we do it every season, sometimes we don't, but we've done a lot of these. go on our fifth We are, I mean, comer, right It's famously it's a week of threes Our anniversary. Yeah, Y birthday. Crect. And the time that I said, arere you sure you don't want your first ringer pod on short nots to be about Venom? All three equally important anniversaries. Meingful to me Meaningful to me decade of potting. Yeahah. what should we do? Half a decade of potting. It's wild, scary. This is not scary You. I not feel like I just got here honestly. Right. Well, COVIid time distortion, I think is a big part of it. Like did you hear my wrist crack? I did it. And I was thinking about time and Chrher Nolan Yeah Yeah. I mean, always on our minds recently. We're counting down Not only how many years we've been podcast together, but on the height meter dayay we will be counting down from ten to one, but here's the wrinkle as always. It's never that simple either in a Christopher Nolan movie or on a height meter because our lists are surprises. I don't know what's on your list probably know what's on my list, but you don't definitively know what's on my list. as always only Carlos Hm holds all of know like seven things that are on your list. That's probably right. Yeah, yeah, That's probably right If we have picked the same title We will discuss it at the higher of the two spots. So for example if you have Minions and monsters. a movie that there were three, and yes, I mean three trailers for before Mando Grogu. Th And I have it Number one. at one. Yeah. we will be waiting until the end of the podcast to discuss it in the top spot. And when you discuss in the top spot, will you be speaking Mianese like the entire time I mean, I kind of think it's a requirement. Okay, great. Can't wait. G tune and stay tuned. reirement. Leave because you might miss Mallory. Making Mionese. That movie looks fun I've never seen a min. I've seen like the first. Yeah sure, of course. Grouw movie, whatever that was called Speakablevie. Yeah there.'s not that That's class All my exposure to minions. That's it. And then I have a friend who'sbset like a very accomplished professional. Sure. Pople love Middle. the manan who is obsessed with minions. Do you see the minions like lording over you on the freeway? prettytty regularly now that you're an LA resident? Can you once again do your impression of a minion? Ling over? I would probably need to be an overalls, which as you know, I have become a part of my life. Thankks to the buuffy rewatch. Not wearing a pair today though Um, tip me off that the mediions are not in fact on your top list. Wear your goggles. H had a bullet point at the very end of honorable mions, notot because it was potentially going to make my list, but more to like mention a couple of other things that some people out there might be excited for. Eligibility These are genre picks That means if we could potentially cover it On House of ourr or somewhere in the Ringverse universe if we could, and frankly, like we don't need really many excuses to find ways to make things fit on our pod. I mean, we talked about Dunker recently. time the time time. also that. You know, if it could potentially be covered here, it's eligible for selection today. that doesn't necessarily mean it will be covered here though Any type of media is eligible Usually these lesss are TV and film heavy, but you usually get a book in there. peopleeople appreciate it. Comic could be on there. Yeah sure uh, a video game A stage play? Oh, yeah. I think at one point, like four years ago, I had a convention on there. I think at one point I was like, theseese trailers are coming. I know, I thought about putting Savi Comicon on there, but then I had too many other things to. I thought about it too, but then I was like, I am in I live in fear of getting violently ill And we get only if we travel together the is airing. If we travel together to the UK to watch the Mad King, would we get violently ill, and would it be worth it? I think we would find a way to remain healthy and well And yes, I do think something think about slaps for premier show. What' the premier dayate? middle of the hot D run, whatever that is, you'll be back. trricky timing. Yeah, you'll be back. But should that stop It'll be running afterwards. when you're saying shouldhould we cap the season of hot D coverage? It of regret about not going to Broadway to see strranger things. Stranger things Won't make that mistake again. Maybe we should correct that error. I think we should. Okay. I'm gonna think about them time frame. Here's what we've decided summer means this time. This one is actually, I would say, I think, a little bit neater. It's wrong. It's not summer technically, but it is a little bit neater than sometimes go. A lot of people think of a summer. June July, August. Yeah. June first through august thirty first. That's the window. So we basically slid technical summer three weeks up in terms of the start date and the endate, I think that's fine. releases that conclude in that window but have already begun by the time this pod drops by the time that window opens, june first, not eligible. So for example Widows Bay a show that we're loving, which will still be airing, notot eligible to be selected because it's already running Star City, the buroughs, backrooms, things that are premiaring right at the end of May, not eligible to be selected. They just missed the window. I thought about trying to squush it up a week. Buroughs in there, but I gotta tell you. I' a hard time not saying like we should go fifteen deep this time because there were so many things to consider. So if we if we had We had opened it a week. I mean, we would have had to go to fifteen. My audible mentions is My, Girthy Wild card Yeah. honorable mention. So I'm not sure if this will come into play today. I don't think it did for my list actually But here's how we tend to do it. nine of the ten They need dates. The dates could change. that's not on us. That's on the studios, et cetera.. But you can have one pick that does not have a date but is like reasonably expected to come out in our eligibility window. That can be your wild card. You don't have to use a wild card, however. Honorable mentions, we'll just hit some other things at the end. Some things that we maybe didn't have room for in our top tenents or that we are genuinely excited about, wish we could have had on our top tenents and then just some other stuff that maybe was never going to make the top ten, but still feels like it bears mention. honorable mentions Anything K of in a big picture sense as you were putting your list together that you want to highlight before we get to the top tenens. Always the risk of tipping your list here. No, it's just interesting. L I always try to think about how you define hype and how I define hype. It's all about sort of purely what we're excited for. That's that's thees. That's all it is But I will say that like if I'm being honest, my hype for things is influenced by what I hear from people who have seen it, you know, and I trust their opinion and stuff like that. So like I'm always like, oh gosh, am I being too cynical about X,YZ? but it really just genuinely does change my hype for something if I have heard from someone I trust, Hey, this didn't, you know, this didn't really hit for me or something like that. So There's a lot to be excited about Absolutely, really, really exciting summer for us, busy summer for us Jam fucking pack summer. Sitting down to sketch this out, I normally what I do is like off the dome, write down the things have popped to my right away. Th I'll go and like look at, you know, our calendar, summer movies, summer TV lists out there, makeake sure I'm not missing anything. fills out I had like a very hard time making room for edits off of what I had immediately written down. No I did actually change a couple things because There's just so much coming and I wanted like a little bit of variety. But I will say like again, if this had been a twelve or fifteen deep list, I would not have had trouble Filling it out pretty earnestly this time, not feeling like I need to like pad it to get to a certain number. There's like a lot of stuff coming. The thing that stood out to me this time actually was how movie heavy my list was Like I often lean TV And I do still have a number of television shows, but ye, I'm h I'm half half and half. Let's see. I'm Well Actually six, six ye I have three TV shows and seven movies And then like most of my top honorable mentions are also movies. So that was a little bit of movie the honorable mention because I tend to, you know, I'm always excited about movies that we're looking forward to, but I tend to like When it comes down to it, if it's a tie between a show or a movie, I'm going to pick the show because it's just more time to spend with the thing I'm looking forward to. So there are just so many movies. This is like a summer moovie run that is very exciting. I'm looking forward to that. I do have a I would say my the top F is more TV centric. Okay We we get to it? Let's do it Joina Robinson. It is time for the twenty twenty six Smmer hype Meter. All newews Sundays at nine, exclusively on AMC and AMC plus. I am B st. I'm a rock star now. Res of Mortal Universe comes what Vulture calls the most momentous event in fictional rock history. Thousands of fans. I want millions Smider This is the Vampirelistot, All new Sundays at nine exclusively on AMC and AMC pllus, stream now. This episode is brought to by Netflix. 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Yeah So I'm counting fantastic The Heart Stopper movie, which is the conclusion of the Heart Stopper series on Netflix that you and I have both really enjoyed. love Kit Connor, Joe Locke, two of our brightest Its like I were knowing. We're gonna to talk about Nick Nelson. we're gonna talk about my fashion icon, Nick Nelson. I love this. So they're concluding the run with a final movie that is dropping on Netflix on july seventeenth And I don't know if it's getting a theatrical release. I really doubt it. But I am really excited for that. I think that' a great pick U. you know, I think the first season of Heart Supper was my favorite. I think, you know, some diminishing returns. But I think the idea and and I think it has to do with like the young actors contracts why they're doing a movie instead of like a full final season, but like this story really des got famous. Yeah, yeah. the story really deserves punctuation mark on it, and I I'm really excited for that. So fantastic. Heart Stopper movie july seventeenth. W' we be covering it? No, because we'll be knee deeep in dragons and vampires, but we'll be thinking about it. and I'll watch it as like a respite from like all the other prep that we're doing. So Oh my God. No question. If they put it in theaters, let's go. Let's go and hold each other's hands. and cry And little animated like le hearts and you know'll sort of like, yeah, swoop around us. You know what I love the hummingbirg I do know that about. I love a humming bird. I dot know that. I just love them. Amazing creatures guys I feel like you have hummingbird energy sometimes, you know what I mean? Comimmentary. Thank you. Thankk you. You' drawn toward the suugar nectar Yeah. floodight. I'm pretty worried about. Yeah., is it supposed to be supposed to be going like that? Yeah. It's a great pick. What a way to kick off the pod. My number ten. I won't be surprised if you have this higher or not on your list Coyote versus of my honorable mentions. Okay, this one of the ones that I had in my honorable mentions. It wasn't on my top ten initially It was painful for me to take off the thing I took off, which I suspect we both have an honorable mentions. We'll get you later. Okay I just felt like I wanted to have this on the list. T your earlier kind of big picture macro point about like what is hype August twenty eighth this mov com out let me say that. I do think the movie looks good. The trailers look great, right? That comedic tone, the like audacious concept, the melding of the live action and the animation. This is of course based on the New Yorker article, this idea that Wiley Coyote is pursuing legal action against the AcMe Ct for all of these atrocities that he has suffered Will Forttee, John Sena, Lanacondor, great cast right. Looks like it'll be a fun and interesting movie. Yes This is such a fascinating media and entertainment industry story. hundred percent that I am so genuinely curious to see How it turned out how it is received, how it does, and what its legacy is. What's the tale? Give in, give the people the backstory WB as you might remember This was a shocking day on the internet and a shocking stretch in time. Spike this project. This was back in twenty twenty three right off. They're just like this movie is made We're not going to release it We're going to take the tax write off. This was remember backadgirl. Re rightly and reasonably there was a ton of backlash to this, right? And then eventually The rights were put out there and this movie was acquired by Katchch upp entertainment. in twenty twenty five so last year and now at last will be something that people can sit down and watch and enjoy and it will be hitting movie theaters inate August And I think that's a good outcome On the tail end of a shitty thing that people who worked hard to make this movie had to suffer through because of the green of. And and kind of an action g. ye the industry. So yeah, they had we didn't go, but they had BL reports a really fun San Diego Cicom panel that we couldn't get to My Pal Griffin Newman showed up in the Wiley Coyote costume. Cred awesome. Everyone I know who's seen it says it's really, really good and fun. And I think so I do think there's going to be this sort of like rallying around it as a sort of like, I mean, I don't know how broad like probably outside of those of us who live here and like operate inside this industry, how widely this story has gone. But I think august twenty eighth Um But will Not only be excited to see this movie, but also like wanting to prove a point and hopefully show up and support this movie. So I hope it's a big moment.e too. Shall we all dress up? Yeah, absolutely. I want to play a character right now? I want to be an anvil. like an acne Anvil. Fantastic.. Can I be like a crater in the road paused by the anvil or like a whole cou's costume whole painted in a w all that' That' good. Yeah I like that. That's good. I just walk around with like the yeah, I like it. I'm into it. Great. We solved it. Carlo, start thinking about your costume Number nine Number nine, this is where I'm doing my books muggle. Great, fantastic. Do you have any books on your list? No. Okay, great. let's talk about it U T. King Fisher, an author who I really like who I've talked about a lot lately, wrote this great book called Sword Heart that I read last year. And this is a sequel called Daggerbound. It basically in both stories, someone, an interesting character finds an ancient weapon and when they draw that weapon, there is like a mystical warrior trapped inside of that weapon, who li pops out. This one in this book, Daggerbound, the warrior is called The Dervish, an immortal warrior who's been trapped for centuries in a sword of enchanted steel and is angry as hell about it He hates the curse that put him there and he wants to hate Edmunds a guy who has the dagger, just as he has hated every wielder before him. The damn scholar is just so sweet Can't wait, can't wait. sounds genuinely wonderful. Taggerbound And then I also want to shout out Honestly, this would have been on my list, no matter what, but full disclosure was written by Pal, Meg Ellison. Meg's an incredible award winning author. And she's written her new book is called Founding Fathers. and I'm really excited about this. like I texted her this morning. I was like, your books on my list. So nothing you say right now will take it off the list. I was like, but how should I pitch it to people? And she was like Jurassic Park meets Clone High It's It's, uh What if the founding fathers were cloned and put into society now. Part of the ongoing like culture wars. They have reanimated George Washington and Ben Franklin, whatever to be used as pwns and leverage. And they're kept in isolation in this sort of like seventeen hundreds environment so they will like be pure of mine and blah blah. But then this is on the McMillan website. The plan is apparently to use them as weapons of the ongoing culture war until Ben, Ben Franklin himself gets his hands on an iPhone and discovers porn. So it's called the Founding Fathers. I think it's going to be really Iven't read it. I think it's going to be really, really fun. Meg is an incredible writer, so I'm really excited for this. Sounds incredible. Is he a subscriber to's just me, Cassie Oly fans probably Did you watch you before her this week I did I'm hing with every episode every week, though it'ss an experience that defies description every time Okaykay. Those are great book recommendations. Those are my smnuggles. Fantastic stuff. Yeah. My number nine is one that I feel absolutely sure you do not have on your list based on your reaction when I selected it in our hype draft the top of the ear Toy Story five. I did not. Yeah. This movie comes out june nineteenth. It has been Just take a minute to reflect on this thirty one years This is the first year D I do that math? You have to say it like the lady in Titanics says it. Old Rose. It's been thirty one years. Oh and there was room on that floating plank There was Roney hand buuzz Ha and Woody's Bald patch. Um First Toy story came out in ' ninety five, right That's thirty one years ago. J justosed to know. It's like a withered Cone. ye. Would you rather this is Widows Bay. C Yeahah. Yeah Would you rather be a hag or a crone? Hm. I do al I feel that I am already Ken of Chrone corner You know So I'd have to make, I think, a bigger change to be a seahag But maybe I should I love the sea. I do love the sea, the ocean. I think you should be the east to me. East Coast seeahag and I could be the West cooast seeaahag. I do love an east Coast beach as you know. Andll you'll haunt the great the OA the oututer bank. Do am my scratching I said the OA, but it's not Saturdayay. That's w way. Now we have to do a dance Were you scratchhing? That's up to you, baby. Your choice. I don't remember the OA dance as you could tell, but there was a dance. Rember how was a dance. Remember howA stood for original Angel I remember exactly where I was when I found that out. Really dont remember that. Noope. okay. Anyway, sounds right. Now theag of the outer banks And the sea haag of the Mendacino Coast. And this is our future Sounds good to me. Would you take a House of Reeds by cooastal? Would you pivot on our House of Reeds dream up a bookmobile and become a witch with me Yes, I was expecting that answer to be faster and more enthusiastic follow up. Okay. Is there a reason that we can't have a mobile enterprise and a brick and mortar? As you know, I'm a homebody. No, you're right. You're right. I like to like what if I could manage the storefront? Yeah, and then all'll put her around the community Uh, Yeah menacing my high school bullies Exactly. Thatounds great. And when I join you out for an appearance, it's like a big deal because I put on pants Well I guess if I'm in the br and bortar, I should probably be wearing pants, but maybe not. That's part of the draw. Yeah, especially if it's he how breads Mallory is probably peniless. She's probably Donald Ducking it around the store coming up. I mean, athleisure is the most I'll promise. Gym shorts. I got a new pair of Syracuse basketball shorts recently and I'm like, maybe I'll never wear anything else again. Are they orange? They're not orange, They're blue. but than you for asking. Speaking of orange. Now I was going to tell you about a McLaren thing, but then this will have aired It won't be it won't be news at that point that McLaren shit the bed in Montreal They'll probably have made another mistake by the time this podcast airs. so never mind sorry. I definitely don't know what you're talking about I just like to mention Lando to you whenever I can because you're always so quick with the It was Oh F one. you were talking F one. Got it this morning, there was a woman talking about the WMBA names and she said that sounds like they all sound like a spoken word poetry poem that like a lesbian wrote in college. and it's just sort of like fever, fire. like blah, blah. I was like, wow, is this sports content I can get behind probably? poetry Sam person defeined big poetry slam person, have I been to a poetry slam? Many There we go. I grew up in the Bay Aa. I love it. Lo it gets required A trracts I love know no one? No. Would you Do you write any poetry? No poetry Yeah Now we're all caught up Mary Oliver. poems. ennjoy a poem Toy Story five. Yeah, spepeaking poetry So it makes me feel old to confront the fact that this is, you know, three decades ago that this franchise began, but it also makes me feel young because that pool of nostalgia is very strong. Seeing that little balds bottom woody in the trailer, it really did make me gave me that little like, oh, the passage of time in a way, I'm interested to see unfold in the story. Tech as fau. You know, we talked about this a little bit during the hype draft, this idea that so Bonnie is obsessed with her tablet. Gretaily is joining the cast to voice Lily Pad very exciting. loveove Greta Le. It's a big year for Greta L. H huge. I mean, every year should be a big year for Gretaie Will Tablets, screen timee, you know, AI as fu feel like fresh and revelatory, I don't know, but will it feel like right on time in terms of interrogating what it means to see like the masses turn into screen zombies and like what does it mean if the spirit of imagination and the spirit of play that really animated the earlier Toy story films is just like for kids today, not a part of their lives. I am hopeful and I suspect that that will feel smart as a text to assess and that it will be poignant and emotional. Possibly more for adults who have spent three decades watching these films and growing up with them and thinking about the passage of time and the way their lives have changed while something like the Toy Story franchise remains like a constant inside of that change. I hope the movie's good. If it's not, I won't be like astonished. But I love a Toy Story movie. For me they've yet to miss, even though like one, two and three are on a different level from four, obviously. Yeah I hope it's good. We'll see. What' number. I'm excited for you, though. I hope that's what happens Um I'm just gonna ring some reads some WMBA names for you right now. Dream, wings Valcuries, obviously. Yeah. spparks, fever, lynx. You should get into the WNBA. It's a great time to be a WNBA fan. Mysts storm. I mean, this is great shit. X men? arere they WNBA players? Who' to say? All the above. American Gladiator? suuperheroes of a sort. I don't know, certainly I honestly think if I were to get into any it would be WA It would be the WBA.. I mean, it is genuinely like the league has been ascending for years now. G time reat time. Did you think about me on the sururvivor finale when Joe said Is that my beautiful tall ass wife? I did. But I'm always thinking of you. And I was just like tall ass women represented Sacramento King' anncer Oh's wife. Yeah. a controversial figure, honestly. Let me think about. o Number eight, you probably have this highire. It's lanterns for me. I have I do have a highire. Yeah. Over to you in the studio Number eight the death of Robin Hood H the s thoughtought you might. Okay. This is always the fun part of the h theater where we just S talks to each other for a while and then we get to the end and we're like, what order should we talk about these twelve things Yeah? Number seven g girl. Dame awwesome. That felt like the right spot. Yeah. Yeah ye O june twenty sixth this movie com out, which is, you know what? That is in one month from today. and by the time this podcast airs, that's in three weeks. Sheh, Oh wow Tell me your supergirl thoughts. I think it could potentially be a fun fine time in the movies. I don't know. I am going in with like fairly low but not in a bad way expectations. Like I'm not expecting a lot from it the way that, you know, I think it's reasonable to expect a lot from Star Wars movie our first Star Wars movie in next many years in the theater or something like that. I think for Supergl, it's fine to keep the stakes kind of, you know, and there were a lot of expectations around Superman, but, you know, like I don't know, it's different for girls. What do I trying to say? Th movies have menen boys in them, folks S buggill. I you know, she just does not have the burden of expectations on her that a lot of other comic book characters have. And so you know, there's been there was like a TV show that people really liked and there was you know, a movie that people liked well enough, but I don't, you know, Kara does not have like all of that on her. So U We love Mellie Alcock. Love. We think she's really fun. I thought the trailer looked fun. Yeah, lightweight but fun And I'm interested to see, you know, how it goes I seven amount. a number seven amount.s like's a good spot. Yeah. I think it's also just, you know, it's so early still in the DCU, you know, this new era of DC films, that the overall level of enthusiasm is really high among fans. So that's exciting and cool. People like Superman. The Clayface trailer, that movie comes out in the fall, so not eligible for for today, but that That trailer dropped and everyone was like, It looks so sick. Also. importantortantly, led by a man. so more about, you know, it'll be checking in higher than number seven when we get to the fallater folks. But yeah, like you said, we love Millie, you know, we love young Raenyra and House of the Dragon. This idea of kind of like the red sun to go party. I'm twenty three and I want to feel, but also I'm carrying my trauma and my history. I love like the way that just because I thought I did I liked both trailers. I thought that they were both good and like I liked how the trailers present because you know, we met Millie's Supergirl in at the end of Superman It was brief. And I thought that scene was fun and it made me excited for the movie. I think that the inverse of that, which is the incorporation of Clark into the supergirl trailers has been a really smart way to quickly just as the introduction of Superman did reinforce the distinction between these characters, which obviously is going to be like I think, central to how Kara is deployed in the DCU. So this idea that like there's a different History, the Krypton Tuma is different, right? Like the gods weren't that kind. L it did. I had to actually watch all these people die. I had to watch this destruction Um The different modes of coping then, right? coping with the respective trauma that they carry, the different worldview that that spawns He sees the good in everyone and I see the truth, which was like the hammerline of the first trailer. I got Banger. I was like, that tells you a lot about what you need to know about this version of Kara. I'm ready to watch her movie. Let me also say that I pretty much always get excited if Jason Momo is gonna be a movie so he's here, that's exciting. That's fun I could tell by your response to the chicken jockey reference on our survivor I've seen that movie. That's the scary part. I had watched that movie not too long ago. My brain is melting, but that's a different thing Crypto I do want to say this, on the one hand My response to crypto and Superman was very powerful and very strong. I think that crypto is genuinely great So I'm excited that crypto seems to be basically the second lead in the movie. However The second trailer made clear I would say made undeniably clear that of the movie is Crypto is grievously injured and has three days to live I think that I am going to have a hard time with that So I might need someone to see the movie first Tell me If he are gonna cry out because crypto dies. I don't know if I can see that. you're killing crypto in the the second DC movie. I would hope not. and yet, James Gunn, now he's not the director of this movie, but it is his DCU has a long history of tormenting us. by killing and maiming animals Just talking about one Guardian's movie, right? all the Guardians movies, there's you know, I didn't ask to get made, and then, of course, all of Rocket's dead friends. That's tell you all the trauma. Yeah. So if something happens to crypto, I just can't, can't do it.'t I really don't think James Gun's like, here's how I want to put my stamp on the DCU by giving you a dog to love and then killing it But I will do this for you. I will than all on this. There's usually one night of screening so I don't tight for you forurered out. Thankk you, G out Number six Also I just want to like in addition to Jason Momoa, Yes, Mas Shon Arts. Yeah, who I love. Isn't this? Crem of the Yellow Hills, a brigand I don't know if this is like the greatest role for him, but far from the matting crowd hive rise up and then Krum Holtz is here. Daveid Krumolts. Never a bad time. N onece a bad time in my life. Tar's father, I think, right? That's exciting. Okay, number six I think we're going to the same thing at number six as well. Do ye you? Yeah Disclosure there. correct No We never on mine Allright Disclosure D day, which we are seeing in Less than forty eight hours. That's right That's right. So we have already seen Yeah the time to say her. But we have not seen it yet. And so our hyper is pure. that's right Um sure. This movie comes out june twelfth. She. It sure does. Steven Spielberg film. Have you heard of them lads? That a lot of people have not seen really hidden We've been told because for plot reasons that they like don't want the plot out there. Um Alien stuff. That's right. Yeah Um, Josh O'Connor, whomes Tw loveve G genuinely a favorite Colin Furth Fantastic onene of my One of your many many wives Eve Houston is here. like Cleman ago. Emily Blunt, great cast. Whyt Russell. The cast is amazing. As you know, Common F Eth is one of the genuine great loves of my life, so it's pretty exciting Is it because of his Mr. Darcy or like what is it about? Well it's both ride and Prejudice Darcy and Bridget Joannarcy the double Darcy, the double Darcy Yeah I had an idea. I'm just gonna to say it on a camera so that you'll have to be forced to consider it. Fantastic. There's a sense of stability coming out this year. That's right, and a pride and prejudice coming out this year. Thats right And the other Bennett sister, which was fantastic, already I think is currently airing in the U.S or something like that Should we in the fall during a quiet time do like a very special Jane Austen episode. Oh, I would love that. I know you studied. Jane Austen. I did. I didn't qualified?? No quite qualified. I didn't J just like took to Jane Austin. Just like a celebration chnel Je Austen. This is our podcast. We can do what we want. So me think about it. What if we invited my Jane Austen professor? He's still teaching at Syracuse Let's Let's lie about listening to the get on the couch. That class was awesome. Jane Austen in her context and ours. So we read all of the Jane Austen novels and we went to England for spring break. We did Bath, Portsmouth, London. incredible stuff. Wonderful. Every time J Burfoy on the street was jealousy the bun and bath. incredible. and then in the post spring break was like the modern ations and versions.ah, Bridget Jones' great,'s great. I was gifted by my lovely husband, the the Jane Austen Folio set recently. Beautiful I haven't dipped into it, but S think about. would love a reread We're persuasion heads here. We are. We are Like died in the wool persuasion and on But Ketin Metworth. No the yearning. my go a yearning. long time yearning. We love some yearning ls Anyways, tendrils in this disisclosure day. We're just very in sync today. It that's great Yeah, UFO stuff. It's alien stuff. We don't really know what it's about, but it seems Will it feel like a The third installment in the Close Ecouters ET trilogy, obviously totally distinct, but like, you know, did you would you watch the trailer and say, oh my God, it's the Close Enounter's house. So that was what I did. How much is divorce slash bad dadding involved in this movie? Well, for me as a child of divorce enthusiast, you know, it's always there. It's always there thext It's always the subtext, but is it the text? This kind of question We know whistleblowing is the actual tax strike, this idea of government secrets, arere they people no or' sorry for the truth, full disclosure to the entire world, the clicking. Let's talk about the clicking. I'metting. I mean, you wouldour a crevice and often inside of a crevice there is some sort of clicking. So It's been reasonable to deduce for some time that you have have you have hor clicking. You don't like it. It to see so upsetting for you like clicking. Cjure. Trevis clicks. I know. It's upsing I could I could instead conjure for you this beautiful dreamscape with like the cardinals and the snow that's also in here knowows what's going on there? It's funny John Williams is scoring this movie Joanna He's quite old and I'm excited to hear. he's still scushing He's gotten in the tank. Crushing. Yeah, absolutely. I really hope this movie is wonderful. You took this in the first round of the hy draft I think I took it because I felt Saan would take it if I let Seaan take it. so I took it. I think I took it way too early. wayay too early. Yeah. because he would well, you would have had two picks before he made a second, but then you know what two more before I won the Star Wars draft. so let's not dwell on my hyight meter performance because it was Bad. It was It was very bad.. That's okay. Disclosureay. I'll be interested to see. as I've been spouting all around I do not think Steven Spilberg has made a great movie in a very long time It would be great if this movie was great and Steven Spielberg just like found that magic again. It'll be wonder I think it looks good. trailers look good I hope it's great. Josh O'Connor is really hard cast roules to make a Josh O'Connor film not work for me. so No it has been done, but it is challenging. David Ks a script S story could go either way. W they be directed I'm excited. Okay, number five, what do you have here? This is where I had the death of Robotheine. Okay, so should we talk about that? Yeah, My five is, I think, your number one. so we're not gonna be talking about that here. Okay. I'm not gonna argue with you All right, so the death of Robin Hood looks so unbelievably fucking sick. It's coming out june nineteenth I think you and I should go Yeah. Too many movies in June for us to cover all of them appropriately. We probably can't cover this, but I could go deep on like a Robinhood episode if we ever wanted to do like a very special Robinhood episode. becausecause Robinhood is like a huge. willill you wear tights? No, but I will practice my archery. Great Yeah yeah, fantastic. That's something I can promise U this is directed by Michael Sarnoski, who did Pig, which is one of the best movies I've ever seen. I haven't seen in my life, Nicholas Cage It is a phenomenal movie. Also Quiet placelace dayay one, which I consume that movie as you know, entirely through cat content on Instagram. Right So the cat Hugh Jackman as One of the comments I saw when I was watching the trailer last night someone like the top comment was like close enough, welcome back Logan. Like it it's a grizzled grim old Robinhood Jodi Comers here, Bill Skarsgard is here, Noah Jup who I really love Murie Bartlet like an incredible cast. You know, it just looks like one of those classic eight to four like very much in the Robert Eggers like noosferatu V Wolf sort of vibe where this is just like it's very blue, it's very grim, it's very gritty, but it's Robinhood. And I'm just like and it's, you know, the theme of the trailer and the promo is like You know the legend, you know the like, you've got the cartoon Fx and the this that and the other thing, but this is the real Robin of Loxley sort of stuff. So I'm Really excited about this. I think it looks fucking phenomenal. A twenty four. so like you know a moodie A twenty four genres been like Green night. Energy too, which like another movie that we absolutely love. We love. Yeah I' thried about this. I thought the trailer looked fucking amazing. Great. In general, always down for a Dark rey imagining that questions, you know, how legends and lies relate to each other and this idea of like Robin carrying the guilt, you know Not only that other people might look and say, are you like actually a criminal and a murderer, but that he might say, am I a criminal in a murdererer? Very interesting. And then this period, it seems from the trailer. it out like a little like ninety second ish spepecial where you see so in addition to the trailer where you see some glimpses and also the cast talking a little bit about the movie and this idea of like this period of recuperation that allows for this questioning of like isalv the moment to reflect, is salvation possible? right? Am I Wthy of it and what would the path to it be? What would it look like? You know, the tagline for the movie is like he was no hero. It just veryer, very, very interesting Yeah I think it looks great. I really can't wait to see this I just cannot say enough. If you've never seen the movie Pig, I just cannot say enough about it. This is a Nicholas Cage joint and it's a very similar, like Nicholas Cage like bearded, grizzled sort of like. cranky, you know, old man dealing with his legacy performance. And it's just like, honestly, I was Everyone I had talked to, I saw it late and everyone I had talked to had loved it and I was just sort of like, yeah, but I don't know Nicholas Cage movies are a real hit and miss sort of thing. And I saw that and Mandy sort of backed back and I was like, wow, this is and his his element, but Pig I just cannot recommend enough And that makes me so excited for this movie. So yeah. By the time this pod drops, peopleople will already have heard couple hours of Nicholas Cage praise but on this very podcast I haven't started my scooters yet. I have the time of. Have you finished it? Yeah, yeah. Okay I haven't started yet.. I mean, I frankly, I watched it on Friday night and Saturday. She's talking about Spiderore. Spider and. Yeah, which was now I'm like by the time we pod I don't my brain will Really great I really liked it. Okay do you think I'll like it Okay, great. exciting. Yeah. some notes, certainly, but yeah, it felt like a necessary antidote to kind of something wider in the comic verse. So I quite enjoyed it. That's exciting. My number five is the vampire Lat that is Absolutely higher on your listers of questions, we will w celebrate it probably at the very end of the podcast Number four You're number five number five was death of Robinant. Oh that's right Nine number four House the Dragon seeason three, which is not a knock on House of the Dragon season three. more so it's that I'm very excited about some other things. So I have it higher. Let's talk about. It's not my number one. Yeah. Yeah, whichich I believe is the first time ever that we've had a thrity that I was number one. It is difficult to divorce My excitement to king about how's the Dragon with you and with Chris. Same. I almost put it in number one for that reason alone. Yeah There was another thing that also had that this year though Well, there are a couple things, actually that I'm not this sure Number four is where I have lanterns. R Let's talk about lanterns. Lanterns comes out on august sixteenth. This was a little bit of a surprise to me when I put my list together that I had lanterns this high, but I kind of just had a hard time moving it down as I locked in the slots here. So you know When we get an HBO prestige drama Sunday night and it's nerd shit, that's always fun, right? It's always exciting. It's always fun Will this is not it's not always good. Doom prophecy. Welcome to Darry. It's not always good, but it's but we were looking forward to those before they let us down. So like to be able to anticipate, to be fair, I did not really engagage with welcome Darry. I think a lot of people liked it. I didn't I't watch any of that show because I am scared. I was not a huge fan of doom prorophecy, as you know. Will this be like even better than Penguin You know I mean We loved ping. We did. After being unschrun, I remember well the height meter was like completely right. R So you were completely right ile channl Tex is forever Texas Forever Baby, Aaron Per. Kelly McDonald, Nath Fhillian, Laura Linney on and on the list go. This iss a great cast. V veryy exciting I've already said it on the pop before, I don't think you can make the case that no one has looked better in the history of time. and Kyle Chandler in this trailer in the wax trucker with the gray hair. Wonderful, very powerful. The vibe True detective but make it Nebraska and make it Green Lanterns. Interesting, exciting Some of the references that are cited, like the right stuff with the chuck Jager of it all and there's a little like slow horses talk out there kind of fascinating. But so by the time this pod drops, I guess it would be like a week and a half. But for us in real time, just a couple of days ago, the second trailer finally dropped. We got a little you know, we got like a little bit more of the to quote, Seaan from our hype draft at the beginning of the year. you know, there better be some like lantern shit in there. We got a little bit more of that in the second trailer. But we also got this refrain, this repeating refrain at the end. Are you afraid? Are you afraid? Are you afraid? Are you afraid? And so this very kind of like human, what are you driven by and what are you like held back by core? and story that seems to be framed and rooted around a generational divide, the idea that Hal is maybe in more of the traditional role of how he acquired the ring, the ring came out, etceta. and that Johon Stewart went through like interview process basically, which is a different thing, obviously and the way I'm sure as how interview it interview for it. Well shit maybe you should have. This is like It's just interesting to me conceptually and the idea that they're in this town investigating some sort of mystery, how grounded and rooted will it be Galactic in scope But I just think it looks great. and I really I hope that it lands and it would be another, you know, o is the DCU just really like is the Marvel momoment over? Is it the DCU's time? you know We're not that far away from Doomsday, so I don't think Marvel's over but like is at a moment of actually I'm shifting hold unconscious. I will say I'm even more excited for visions That's right. Vision quest or whatever it's called. Is that October? November, Fall sometime in the fall. That'll be great. Yeah. Damian Lindeloff involfment Chris Monday showrunning Hope the show is great Im excited, where did we you headed at eight U All right, that's your number four That That's my number four. So my number three. Yeah for a new day. S It's a sppidaman movie. Fantastic. I've there have been some like early screenings No surprise. Huge praise for Sadadyie Sink. Huge, huge praise for Sadie's Sc. that makes me extremely excited for not just speaking of Marvel, you know, like this is a Marvel Sonny Co proro, but if we arere As we believe, Sadie Sink is likely playing Jean Gray in this movie, even though they will not confirm that. But if she is This is Uher in an age of not newew Mutants the movie, but newew Mutants. That's right. and that's really exciting. If they just like start it with an absolute cracker jack Sadie Snink performance and get us really excited for the X men coming into this new era of Marvel, Sony Marvel storytelling. That's thrilling. So like And, you know There's ever been a toom hall inspider Man movie we haven't Re loved. So you know, Zendaya' here like's right. What could go the fuck wrong I think this movie looks great. You know, we did a trailer breakdown previously I, you know july thirty first, part of what's on my mind with, Don't get Sick Comicon is like, this is not a movie I want to miss. Yeah. So you know, I think that as I said just two minuteso talking about Lancterds is it's the DCU's moment? It's like hard to not feel like it's still going to be the Marvel moment when we're getting a new Spideran movie. for all the reasons you just said, like these movies are consistently excellent. I think that the Tom Hollands Spidey MCU movies, that's my second favorite MCU character specific franchise after Cap movies. Right. You know, this is the first non John Watts pidan movie, but Dess and Daniel Carton, his stuff has been great. I really like Shangqi. We loveved Wonder Man. so that's exciting. I think he'll be like a great director and fit for this story. And you know, like we already talked about the trailer but this idea that Peter is still forgotten. four years later. he's in the low fi suit.s like Sad boy watching MJ and Ned, you know post TikToks about how happy and great their lives are and crashing their parties and seeing, you know, her new boyfriend and stuff. like that's interesting. And I will say like my my theory I had out of that trailer was like Zendea wasn't gonna to be in the movie that much. But the way that Zenda has talked about filming this movie makes me think that she's in more of it than I was worried she was. Yeah that's exciting. For sure. And we're still like on the villain front you know, speculating because we get we have Tombstone, we have Scorpion, the hand, Boomerank torntial, et ccera. Are we going to get these vignettes Like I' was assment yeah that we speculated when we were breaking down the trailer. Who knows? Trmell Telman is here as Bill, we talked on the trailer breakdown about who we think he's actually playing and this like anti mutant agenda that makes the I think already very likely Saby S is playing Ge Gay Rors feel even more likely. like I don't even I honestly don't even have like another contender for who she could be playing at this point. I think it's just I agree. Do you think Cast any Frank Castle is here. Do you think there's any possibility they show this at Comicon It would be like a week early. Yes, I do. You think they're going to do a Spider Man screening again. I think it is possible. There isn't anything else around that time that they could you know, the Odyssey will have already come out. Yeah. they like to do a sort of movie moment. didn't happen last year. It wass fantastic four, right? We thought it might and then it didn't if memory serves, but that was actually that weekend. So maybe that's a little different. Yeahs The next week. That would be fun to go see. That would be really. I assume it'll be a competitive field to try to get to see it if that is in fact happening. Sony, Ca. Hit us up. And yeah, Bruce Banner's also here. likeike that's you know, a fun thing, this idea of the mutating DNA, how dangerous it is. What is Peter going through? you know, falling out the window of the organic web shooters. We talked about the man spider speculation, but more so this idea of the rebirth that was in that first trailer. just looks like it's going to be a great movie. So I I think a lot of cycles of the height meter, I would have had that at number one U without hesitation. I think it speaks to the caliber of weather. It's not happening here. Number two Like my number two is your number one I think so because my number two is House of the Dragon. Yeah. So let's talk about Yeah. So Odyssey is your two and my one. So we have left to talk about House of the Dragon, Listat and Odyssey Let's do House the Dragon Lestat and then finish with the Odyssey. Great. Okay. Hoty coming out season three. June. T First which is in three. It's be great. We're so excited. I' excited genuinely. Yeah. We are genuinely excited. It's just a lot of work. Bea everything else is also coming out at the same time, which is not ideal. But like in some ways it is ideal. House of our season, baby Um, if you Do what you love, you never work a day in your life. Alternatively, all you do is work. You work all day. It's all work B there all the time. See like I said, I think this is the I would have to go back and fact check this, but I think it is the first time A thrones has not been number one on my list. My memory is one time you had rings of power ahead of sounds like me. Yeah, Hoti and they were at one two, but like it's pretty rare for it not to be number one on the list. And I think, you know, like you said already In addition to my genuine enthusiasm for and anticipation for this season, which as we've talked about, many times, including frankly, the end of during the ill fated finale of season two, we were already looking forward to season three because of what we know is coming in the story. The trailers have been great. We've loved both of the trailers so far. We had a really fun time breaking them down. And as you said The joy of covering this, doing Talk to Thrones with you and Chris, getting to do our deep dives every week, having the opportunity to fall back into the world is just always the thing I look forward to the most like when we get to do it in terms of visiting a fictional universe Do I really am hopeful that the season is good, you know, to the gullet on the morrow, like what has already been shown in the trailers then knowning where we're going do and knowing where we're going to start the season. I think that You know, you mentioned earlier that when you're crafting your height meter, part of what's on your mind is like, what have you heard from people who've actually seen a thing? Now as far as I know, that's not a factor with this. I don't know if anyone's actually seen it. No I don't know. The version of that for hot Da. is just the like number of people we've been talking about this a lot who are like,, I'm not excited for how the Dragon season three, they lost me. I'm done, which is such a huge bummer. We've been hearing that a lot. lot. That is really upsetting. And my hope still is that if the first episode is a banger and people here like, oh, this ruled You got to get you got to opt back in right that they will And would that it will be then a like shared like animating experience because that's with Thrones I wonder how much Neither the Seven Kingdom helps or hurts. Does it hurt for people to see out of the Seven kingdoms, which yeah Pre prettyty universally people adored, adored and admired So to say Oh, this is actually what I'd rather see out of Westeros than this other thing I think here's where' Do it help where they're like, I had so much fun being back in Westterst again with the n of the Seven Kingdoms Let's just keep that party going. but make it dragons and ancestrous blondes. You know? Who says no, not us So the latter was my hope When we were covering a night of the Seven Kingdoms, and the enthusiasm was so infectious and sincere in real time. It's like peoplee are back in thrones us back Increasingly, my worry is that it's the former, where people are like, well, I have a thronesing I like. Why plaod and suffer through a thrononeing that doesn't bring me enjoyment? Now, again, my hope is that people will find enjoyment in season three of Hast of the Dragon because it will be really good. Yeah. And you revisiting season two, like there's like I still think a lot of really good stuff in season two I agree I was much that it was the ending. It was just a finale, really that like really ended on a downturn pres. Even there were an episode or two. Even there was stuff in the finale, and you know what You know what Ryan Condle would say? If I only had another episode or two because that's not where they wanted to end the season. You know what I mean? It was a budgetary conract for them. So like I feel really bad, but I'm hopeful. I, you know, hope it's high on both of our lists. So you know, like Hope spprings a ternal for this. And like and again, I cannot overstate. And that's actually the theme of of this and the next thing we'll talk about and the thing we'll talk about it after that which is is not just enjoying the thing, it's covering it with you on this show, listening to hearing what the bad babies have to say about it Um, you know, thinking about the material it's adapting, all of like that's just to me. so perfect. So I'm excited. M too U no matter what you and I and then you and I and Chris are going to have like a great time. doing it. so I e Demmy. God Dmy. He got me good Which old man do I admire will die in season three? I know the answer, but you know say don't say to the microwph You know, there's always so much that's a surprise on the adaptation front because of the nature of fire and Blood, but also we do know just ore canon events that are coming, There's a lot of reason to be excited about season three based on the stretch of story that it will be covering. I think it'll be good Okay, so then we're at your number one. Yeah, My five, the vampireless stat. Tell us. Here's the mate I mean It was probably gonna be my number one no matter what. But I will tell you this. I was thinking about this morning, I was like Do I feel bad about the fact that like, This whole team is definitely indulging me and letting us cover this show week to week. Like this is definitely like a gift you are giving to me Joanna. I understand that. I am appreciative of it. It's happening during House of the Dragon and we're going to cover it week to week anyway. And the only reason we're doing that is because I'm obsessed with the show and I understand that. That being said, this is the first season of the show that I get to watch with you because you know, you did me the previous favor watching it for our gifts exchange, the season one and season two, so now you're all caught up. You're gonna watch it with me That's going to make it all the better me to experience it. And I've been on like cloud nine with the first two seasons, so getting to do season three, which is a musical season where Sam Reid is front and center absolutely C rushing it. Sarred and singing. Speaking of the Cin for Pride and Pjudice, Jennifer Eley is basically like second build this season. L it's going to be exciting. Aazing U All of our faves are back you know, again, it's based on a book. I've never read the I've read rev of the Vampire. I've read the Vampire with that, but I bought a copy so that I can read it so that we can like read passages and talk about what's on the screen. and like that's our favorite fucking thing to do. So like, I'm just so excited. pllus you've like seen a bunch of buuffy, you know, like you'really coming vampire into the vampire world. And it's just it matters so much to not only love something, but to share it with someone that you love. And like there are people I love who I've watched previous seasons with, but like to get to sit on a microphone with you and celebrate it and to like hear from our listeners, the bad babies, the hopins and dragons at gmail dot comot not Hobs and vampires, but maybe it should be. Vamps and Dragons, I don't know. but This means so much to me. It means so much to me that you're giving me the gift of getting to talk about it week to week. It means so much to me that you watched those previous two seasons. I love them. I know you did. It's not like you like grudgingly watched them, but like Also, it was a favor to me at the same time. shar it with you It's such a gift to me to get to like share your passions and get to like have you introduce me to things that you love and also know that I will love. like it's one of the great joys of being friends with somebody that you have common interests with and also like slightly different interests and then you get to like move into an area of It's been it's been a dw. I loveved the first two seasons. I The fact that I get to watch this in real time and talk about it in real time with you my first season watching it in real time is so exciting And the fact that that season that I get to watch in real time and talk about with you happens to star the stat as a A rock god? Yeah What more could you ask for June seventh Seven episodes We'll be covering it in tandem with Al the Dragon. The plan right now is to do Sunday Night Talk of Thrones with CR Monday because they're both Sunday shows. Thankks so much scheduling gods. but Sunday night talkal of Thrones. Yes. Monday a vampire listat drops Tuesday, a hot D deep divive. That's right. That's the hot D schedule will remain the same. You're going be the just a little little vampire meat in the sandwich there. indeed R Thatounds quite right I'm so excited. and I hope that like The bad babies out there. everyvery time I've heard, well, not every time, but I would say almost every time I've heard from one of our listeners that they watch because I would not shut up about it. They loved it. Yeah. So like the show is great. I mean, the performances are amazing. The writing is exquisite. The first two seasons are on Netflix and something that I say again and again again is If you watch the first episode and you're not in, it's not for you. You know right away. I'm not sitting here saying wait till episode seven and it really starts cooking. like I think it cooks right from the jump. and if you Don't like episode one, then you can just peieace out and that's fine. But like what I've heard from most people is they're like, wow, this is extraordinary. Why aren't more people watching it? And I agree. So. Well let me ask you this, what would you say to people who ask, can I just start with season three to a certain extent you can. So as you alluded I am constitutionally incapable of doing that. so I. But there are plenty of people who I might look at it and say it's a rebrand. It's a little bit of reset. R There's a different Interview with the Vampire, season one and season two based on the book Inview with the Vampire. The Vampirel of Stat is what they're calling season three even though it's the third season of this show. It's based on both the book, The Vampirel of Stat and Queen of the Damned, which was a very bad movie in the ots. but Rckstar Vampire Listad is there. So Can you just jump in to a certain degree, but I think like the Louis Listot relationship background is important. Yeah. Seasons one and two are on Netflix, so you can catch up with them pretty easily and then decide, you know, if you watch season one in season two on Netflix, which probably already have a Netflix subscription. So if you watch on Netflix,, and then you can be like Hey, should I get AMC plus for these two months? too watch it along with Mal and Joe and tune into how, You should. Absolutely. I bought an entire garen of clothing that I will wear in every single episode. I've seen a preview.'s Do cost you mag. I wouldn't do it forly mag. So will you be wearing it every episode or just for the premiere? Every episode, test. Unless I overheated it, which is possible. Well, you know, I like a brisk studio. I'm happy to oblige. So do me a favor, House of our listeners. Give it a try. Just watch episode one, seeason one episode one Netflix. No I think no chance you regret it And then come with us for the rest of the ride. I mean, should I try to read one of the books? I haven't read any of them as you know. I think if you were to read one, the Vampire of Stat is the one that you should read. Sould I read that one without having read? I think so. Because you watched the first two seasons. I did. So I think that's not an ish. It should be like your plain book or something like that. Yeah So u Do it, join us. Why not come to the doark side? The vampires are here. Something I will say for the you know, a lot of people who listen or watch our show are Thrones enthusiasts. Jacob Anderson is so good on an interview with the Vampire. And if you were like, I liked him fine as Greyworm, I'm just here to tell you have not seen even the tip of the iceberg of what he is capable of. He is so good on this show If you're a journalism enthusiast, there's some great stuff for you. Daniel. I have some Daniel Malloy is a fucking icon. I love him. So man. Yeah That's all. that's my pitch. Come join us.'s hereere's my beating heart in my hand. Come join us before the vampire was out thrilled for you. I can't wait to share this with you.' I'm so excited. Mere weeks. A week I mean, Two weeks right now, but by the time people here this one week. And I I've watched I'll be jet lagged this fuck when we record this first be great. You're gonna be loooopy. I will be coming back probably sick. twenty hours of trap. This might be a remote p. I will see. Well Here's what's possible is that That Monday morning I don't y know I'm sick. you' get me Thank you bating, Then I get you sick. And then house of the dragons are remotely on disisclosure Day and hopefully be well in time for House of the Dragon. What was I going to say? I don't recall. canan't wait to talk about it. Let him go. The Odysse You had this at number two. Oh my God. I had it a number one. So I went back and forth a little bit between and the Oa number one. Fucking listot the Lioncore. it would be number one. easily. july seventeenth. We've talked about this a lot already, because in case you don't know, in case you're just tuning into theight meter and you don't know, we haveve been doing a Christopher Nolan revisited rewatch project for a year Almost, right? I think a year, close to a year. And you know what? It's just been so fucking fun to go through his entire filmography. I think we both would have been incredibly excited for And Odyssey movie period, Christopher Nolan's version of the Odyssey period, but going through in a fairly succinct period of time all of his movies and revisiting them and thinking about these through lines and what is sometimes different film to film and how he dabbles across genre, I just can't wait I see this. so grateful that we did this blast Amazing production team made a playlist of all of those and re watchatches on Spotify. So if you have not listened or watched all of those, we've got a couple guests on there like CR joined us, Van joined us, Mina joined us for the dark night. We have hopefully a couple guests coming up on the last three that we have to do. You might have already heard one by the time this comes out and something went horribly wrong. Hopefully Yeah, you know, the two of us did it together. We had some pals join us and I feel like I've learned so much and's it's just really It's been so fun to talk about Nolan you know, expectations and anticipations from for various people. And I just feel so much more informed. I had already seen all these movies and I already considered myself like a Nolan fan, but you know, it's different going through the House of our experience or something like that. And I just feel so ready and so excited. Me too. I can't wait. And I was thinking about this Again, through the lens of having like revisited all of the movies and, you know, the one that we' In our real time, again, Nolan, it's fitting. For us in real time about to talk to for the listeners, they've already hopefully heard it. One of my least favorite, but like even the lastes are inverted me U I, you know Here's what it prepared me to say Not a bold statement I don't think. I think it's like a kind of statement that seems bold, I suspect you'll agree I think there is zero chance that the Odyssey is bad. zero Literally no chance the movie's bad. I think it's possible that it's not what everybody wanted it to be or expected it to be, that it doesn't end up being like the best picture favorite necessarily. thenen we get to the end of the year and where' like Dunon was the movie of the year. All those things seem possible. I think there is no version of Christopher Nolan's the Odyssey that is not incredibly entertaining that because we all get to go to the movie theater and see it in real time and celebrate it and talk about it together and now get to anticipate it together that it doesn't feel like a genuine event, like a moment in cinema. And that stuff matters and on top of that I can't wait to see the spin that he puts on it. The cast is incredible. The memes are electric already. Even the like kind of discourse stuff that's popping up already, which some of which is like exhausting already. No All of that I think just reinforces that Nolan is an undeniable force in movie making and that this will be one of the events of the year Should we dress up for the Odyssey as well Will you commit now on this podcast to wearing a paper mache like Trojan horse head? It though Here's the thing, you know how I like to like reallyy budges, by Great question. I like to really actively snack during a movie as you know Well, so what we'll do is we'll build you a paper mache thing. It's one of those things where like the head is actually up here in faces here. So like can eat under the No, it's not Mando and Grogoo style. It's like we'll make you a little like feed hole. Okaykay, you know, and moles and the nextck. I'm in Here's my my only question my only question mark remaining about the Odyssey. I saw a trailer. I went to go see I love boosters, shout at Oakland. I love boosters, Really fun time. If you like Booots R Reiley, if you like sorry to bother you Go see I love boosters. I had a great time Um, There was not ay trail in front of it. I sitting there with my friend, Danielle and we were just like, both of us were just like what if it's What if it's great? What if it's just great? What if it's just great. Here's my only remaining question mark. Matt Davon, I'm just still not one hundred percent sure. Yeah is is my Odysseus. Like I'm I'm just really curious to see that play out Yes. But as I controversially said on the Dark Knight Pod, I'm a big mad Damond fan. I think there's a lot he can do. So like So far the trailers, I think haveve told us that Robert Penson is actually the lead of the movies possibly. But what if it's Charlies? Well that would be thrilling. I mean, the castage is so good. got quite a chuckle out of these stories that I have no idea the validity You you know, it's been aggregated four times by the time it reaches me on Instagram. but the, you know, o Chris Nolan famously withholding in his praise at the end of his it was like perfection in that Daamon and Holland and they were like What the fuck Yeah, this is great, great shit. Great stuff. Yeah. I can't wait for this movie I think it's going to be dynamite. I'm so excited I need to It's one of those things, this is I always talk about this, but it's one of my favorite moments when we all walked out of doing two together. and it was like the Midnight boys. And, you know, and then like Sea and Amanda were there and stuff like, And it was just like, everyone liked it. Yeah. And it wass just one of those animating moments where it's just like, what if everyone just likes it? A shared experience.. And if the racists want to stay home because they don't think Luita Nuna, one of the most classically beautiful women in the whole world is beautiful enough to be Helen of Troy. They're welcome to Die of Fire, Stay home, I don't want you there. But everyone else, let'ss go see the Odyssey, man Oh TV movie thing from earlier, the fact that we've been talking about this for a year and like preparing for a year, it gives it that this is a season of TV, even though it is definitionally the most grand spectacle movie movie mo. Like I don't feel like it's just we go for two and a half hours and then it's over. I feel like we've gotten to spend all of this time. Yeah, yeah. Well, there's also this just like increasingly's the Odysy so we've been thinking about it forever I I wake up every day thinking about the Wine Dark Sea. Always U The Rosy fingered Dawn? Al thinking about it, you know, Al. My friend Cara was talking about this. She's like, I love the Odyssey. And I was like, yeah Wh doesn't She's like, but I really love the Iliot. I was like,araryry, you are so special. What an interesting take. She loves Iliot. I was like, Wow, sequel, who knows? prerequel. But yeah, I'm so excited for this and I'm excited for all the people who know the story really well, and I'm excited for people who don't know the story who didn't study in school or something like that for them to experience it. I think it's going to be astonhing. But to your point about. Film versus TV, this conversation we were having about the L Star Wars movie and stuff like that. This is just And this is Chris Ver Nolan's commitment to his entire career cinematic event. And there have been increasingly these cinematic events in the last few years, you know, these these sort of like Gott to get your iMax tickets or they're going to be sold out sort of moment, you know, like thinking about Doune three coming, thinking about Doom say, which is not going to be an IMax, but you know something to think about. It's been an own goal since M minute one and it remains an own goal. Absolutely. But like the experience of seeing sinners in the theater, you know, like, you know formats, the way that these filmmakers talk about isuff like that thing getting really excited for A thing that will not help me on my hype draft, but I'm still like Greta Garerwig's Narnia in theater theaters, you know what I mean? this push of Netflix to go into theaters. So like I'm just thrill that that idea of like event cinema is really just gaining momentum again after this sort of tough time for movie theaters. So strongly agree Honorable Mentions. Ohh yeah I had a weirdly hard time keeping masters of the universe off my list, which I have to say surprised me because I don't here's the reason I at the end of the day, was able to knock it off I don't mind saying I don't have a personal attachment to this, but I have been I honestly thought the trailers looked like bad, but I have been compelled by this recent wave of like, they got the tone right talk and like is it Guardians? Is it Ely Thor? 'cause if so it could be fun We just June fifth I would just sorry, this is the hype meter, not the anti hype meter, but I would just say that like bothers me so much when I hear that like, not what you're saying, obviously, but like when I hear From people I know whose tastes I trust that a movie is really bad, and then we get this like, o, the wave of like influencer early outfmers, I throw those away completely. But That's what's the noise right now. are those like early influencers? And I'm just sort of like, but I've talked to people who have seen it, who have seen it, and they're like, it's terrible. But maybe But maybe they're wrong. And it will be surprising. And if people love the Master of the universe, or maybe it's like so bad it's good and like cheesy and campty or something. That's my hope is that there's something about it that feels like very in a good way kind of like aware and naval gazy and like totally knowing. but also like I think the reason I considered putting it on my list, which surprised me because again, I don't personally I'll go see the movie in theaters, honestly, but like people in our lives are very excited about. like Adam's really looking forward to it. Van is really looking forward to it. Like stuff like that Yeah that gets me more excited and I hope for their sake that it's good. Mbe you won't The End of Oak Street. That's my next one David Robert Mitchell, who did It Follows which is one of the best horror movies that has ever existed. This is a movie that for a while, people were wondering if it was a Cloverfield movie, but it's a different studio, so that's been like fairly well debuunked. But JJ. Abram says he is like emerging from his Please forget I made Rise of Skywalker, like coocoon that he's been in for a little while. Like this is something that he w't forget. I sure. This is something that he produced Anne Hathaway, Ean McGregor, Maisy Stella, who was in my old ass, one of my favorite movies from last year U and this is like a very sort of Ablin U What if a block of houses from the nineteen eighties was put? elsewhere and there are dinosaurs and we're not quite sure what's going on Is it drressic or is it Jumanji? These are questions that we have to ask ourselves. My feeling on this is cast exciting, filmmaker, exciting concept exciting trailer I did not think look good. Yeah. So that's why I didn't I was considering putting it in my top tenem, but I did not. I will say that Pamela Abdy and Michael Deluca, who are the you know powerhouse force at Warner Brothers who shepherd things like sinners and stuff like that, have spoken specifically about how excited they are about this movie, which makes me kind of excited about it. So hope it's great. That' be wonderful We'll see. We love original sci fi. We do. What else do you have in anys? This is the one of the big, you know rave review coming out of Cann movies, teenage sex and death at Camp Miasma. I didn't put it on because it's like horror, right, whichich I think I'll be too scared to even see the movie, but does I think make it eligible. And you know, a couple of my faves in in the co lead roles here. So it sounds like it's great. I'll probably be too scared to see it. I did not see TV glow because I'm scared. so I don't know. I'll probably need to hear from some of my pals whether they think I could tolerate the plumes of blood, but seems like it's great I'm excited for that one Q quite excited for that. One night only U pge but make it premarital sex. I don't know What a log line? O night O night only Monica Barbarro, Kellum Turner and it's sort of like a walk and talk sort of like One crazy night sort of thing, but the premise of this world is U You're not allowed to have pre marital sex except for this one night a year, you're allowed to have premarital sex Someone on Reddit was like, whyy isn' it called the Uurge instead of One Night onlyn? And I'm like, I agree. Amazing. I will say what's an so written and directed by Will Glock and we've been talking Ramahoney and I have beenking about this movie for a while because we're like What are the rules of this? What do you mean you're not allowed to have pray marital Howforceable is that? Do your head explode? Like if you do, like what what's the what's the deal? Will Gluck has said in interviews he will they will not be explaining the rules of this world. And that like is a little frustrating to me. That being said. Monica Bar Baro and K So that sort of Unusual promise makes it House of our, I would say, right? We're living in like a different an alternate universe. where you're only allowed to have premarital sex one night a year But really it's just an excuse so it's dystopian. Monica Marro and Callum Turner, two incredibly attractive people like flirt and I'm guessing actually they probably will not have sex on this one night would be my guess. I think it's going to be like a h Anyway. Rob's point was like, if you've seen the trailer or the poster, Momonica Bararo is wearing a silver dress that is so short it might as well be Maloret House of Res with no pants on. Like it is my shirt will be very long. It is basically a t shirt And Rob was like, in a world with no premarital access, whyy do dresses like this exist? And It's like great questions. I have questions about the universe. I really do a poster That is a short That is a short dress. short dress. I support it. I support it. Anyway, I'm intrigued. I could not dare to put it on my top ten, but I'm just like, I will be seeing this movie. Ipect it Is it going to be good? I don't know, but I will be saying it. Anything else you have on your list? A couple rapid fire TV seasons to toss out. So Xben ninety seven season two does not have a date. Yeah But it's also on my list is Likely summer and it sounds like it's going to premiere but like that they haven't announced bizarre the date. Yeah We both loved season one, sort of unsure what the future of the show will be in the post Bod Do era. Yeah. but you know, hopefully the quality continues and that's like Really wonderful Less excited for Avatar the Last Airbender season two, but just wanted to mention that that is in fact coming out june twenty second The bossing say season, you know, but we're In the animated show, that's a stretch of the story that we love. likeike Fool me once. I thought the trailer was aggressively unimpressive that it just dropped this one was just like a mess. That being said, we're getting an avatar movie this year from the real creator, so I'm excited about that one. It would be fun if this live action retelling I found it's footing a little bit, but I don't know if that's likely to happen. Dark Matter season two is coming out, august twenty eighth Unless I missed it, there's no second book here. so the c but Blake C an author of the book is writing the second season or co writing it. So sort of just Curious to see what that's like. I think the ending of the book in season one sort of like ends in a place where you are curious to know what the future holds for those characters. This is a multiverse story if you haven't seen it out Say no more, Joe Ederton, Jennifer Connlly I don't know that we like need to contin it feels like one of those things where you kind of You're at war with yourself. you want to know more, both probably as the creator and the viewer reader But it's also like a nice one to leave embedded in amber and never reopen. So I don't know, we'll see, But I am curious. I thought that I read the book pretty close to watching the show and I thought It was fairly successful as an adaptation. So C I mention an adaptation of a book I have read, which is The Dog Stars by Peter Heller and Jake Balard and Josh Rolin are in this sort of like fun post apocalyptic after post pandemic The Dark Stars was a huge book. Like that was a really, really popular book. Ridley Scott is directing, Jacob Al Lordi is in it. This should be a huge movie this year, but they're dumping it in August, which makes me quite nervous. Like Bodew, doeses not bode wellell. Like given the source material, given the director, given the leads,, this should have been like sort of a big event movie this year, but it's being dumped in August, which is where you put movies You do not have much faith in. so I'm a bit worried about it. It was supposed to come out March, you know, and it got pushed to the dumpy ground of August. I'm little worried about that being said. You know Jacob Lordity, we're thinking about you. sure are this week. And God. I, you know For fans of the book, I hope it's what they're hoping it is, you know, nice. Silo season three. Silo right now for me is in the bucket of I loved it You lost me, Can you get me back? If the answer yes, I'll be excited. If the answer is no, I'll move on which is a bummer. Ale away. Indeed. Indeed. Minions and monsters now no,' just kidding. That's right. That's it. That's all I had We An else. An other any other items. Okay, great. We have a fun Full summer to look forward to. So that's treat. We will be back soon well Joe will be back with some pals for a fictional musical extravaganza to set up L stat, then we will be back Health permitting and travel schedules permitting to cover the first episode of the Vampire Listat on Monday, juneh. That sounds right. That sound right? Yeah. We'll definitely be covering it. I think it the premiere's on the seventh so the epode will drop on the eighth on the yeah. Fantastic. And then it's Disclosure Day It's hot tea a couple Nolan movies left to watch. I Comicon San Diego Comicon Buckles, Ser Spiran the Odyssey, All these other things we just talked about, not all of which we'll be covering, but What if Twistory five is so good that we're just like we had to come in and pod? And then you're like, well, if we're here poddting on a movie on june nineteenth, let's also do the deeath of Robinhood. What do you think about that as a double? That ss perfect.' a don. I mean, stories that children learn and then you think about reflecting on What you understood to be true as time I think that should be the Marbenheimer is takeake the kids' story Story and then the death of Robinhood. Sign me up That sounds great. as you know, I miss Barbenheimer in real time. So just do you have a favorite Robinhood Eo Kostner Are you a crossost ahead? I do. I mean, you know, you do know how I feel about him. go like animated . Yeah. It's hard. topops the top for just genuinely formative. Yeah Fx Robin Hood Costner, Karois, Robinam Menentes, very good. Very, very, very important, very important. Ver important Okay, we did it. That's the height meter. Let's see. Thankk you. Thank you too Carless Cherboga Scott Lee. Our Junor Rem to Powell Jacob and CT. We're both here once again. W I know The embarrassment of riches. And of course, Joieia Deneron. Thankk you to the Bad babies for sharing in the hype with us as always You know, I assume we'll do a fall height meter, probably. W we do a winter one? whoo knows? Sometimes the seasons get away from us, but We'll definitely do another one. Oh yeah, at some point. Oh yeah So the fallers A little patchient in the summer. Maybe we'll do a fall winter mash upp. We do that sometimes. Yeah The seasons are what we make them. I love you. I love you. I'll miss you. Well, I mean, I'll see you for multiple pods, but when people are hearing this, it'll be you'll be gone. You'll already be missing me. Exactly. Right now, as you were listening to me say this, I am missing Joanna. in that tenet sort of way. Exactly. We're going to talk about that. Maybe we already have Who knows? vampire stuff I've not yet secured a coffin, but I I intend to. You're working on it. Maybe it'll be a miniature Oh Well coffin. Yeah. Well a coff. We can do some like force perspective stuff