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Now it's time for how to discreet we're gonna have a good time celebrate some failure, not just be a hate of catching one. How did this remain? Let's flow in the mediocrity of some bar art. Perhaps we'll find the answer to the question. How did this get made? Hello, people of Earth and welcome to How Did This Get Made? I am joined, as always, by the fantastic Jason Manzucas and the wonderful June Diane Rayfield. How are you both? Good. Pretty good. We are joined today by a very special guest. Um you know him from his podcast on the nerdist network called You Made It Weird. Please welcome Pete Holmes. Hi. Hey everybody. And you also have other things too. He has a great comedy album. What's the comedy album called? Oh, it's called Impregnated with Wonder. But I love I love how the punk rock element of how podcasts promote other podcasts. It's all it's so DIY and beautiful. Our pod our podcast could be your life. Your podcast could be my life? Yeah. Yeah. I don't know what that means. Don't know . I don't know. That didn't make sense. That sentence actually makes more sense than anything in this movie. Ah I was telling Zooks. I couldn't talk about this movie. I can't believe the show's only forty five minutes. I feel like we have to pack in so much. Before you guys before you guys got here, Pete was like chomping at the bit. Can't wait to talk about I just watched it this morning. It's actually the perfect way to watch it in daylight. Yeah. So you know you're wasting a beautiful day watching what might be the best worst movie Pretty much it was like a real fresh . I was eating eggs watching it and and like when it started, uh you guys start I, just wanna know. Please part of me, I was like, maybe this maybe they're wrong. Maybe this is gonna be the best. You know, I wanna point out one thing. What we've watched a lot of bad movies on this show, and I'm beginning to see the trend with uh production company logos before the movie starts. And this one when it started it was family room entertainment. I saw that too and like written in a like comic sans Terrible. I was like, all right, we're in virtue. I love that you went there because I'll go one step back and say that the cover of this movie is a one-for-one ripoff of the born identity. Yes. It's exactly the cover. It's the same cover. Pause the show. No Now., the movie doesn't even take place in this year. They try very hard to set up this is like 2007. That they're playing music, like they go, I can't believe Princess Die got killed. That's for the city. Oh my god, I forgot about that! They have to establish that it's nineteen ninety seven. How are we gonna do that? I guess they could talk about Princess Die and we could show a picture in the newspaper. Yeah, it was ninety seven. It was ninety seven and they says they lingered on the date for a couple of seconds later. That's so true. I thought that was gonna be a big thing. I was like, oh, the killer's like a princess die fanatic . Not used. They really like they was no reason to set the tone because that scene, that part of the movie is probably like four minutes. Like you don't really need to establish the movie the 90s. The movie is all false leads. Yes. Like needless false leads. And at the beginning you don't know that, so you're like, okay, Princess Die, 97. I'm boring. females are important. Oh no, wait, they're not? Okay, great. Whatever. I think who they might be referring to referring to. I wrote a note at one point that said like this movie is all useless female names. No, no, all the guy names sounded completely ridiculous too. It was like Jeremy Goob and like Guy Lafar Tune names. Basically, too, everyone that's a suspect could be and has probably been in a CW show. Like they were all about the same age. So like one Tree Hill, who is that guy? Everyone that's exactly right. They you don't know where you know these actors from. But they've all been on some sort of long soap opera. It will bother you the whole film. Can I also say this isn't out of order, it's more of an overall thing. Ninety percent of the movie takes place on the phone. Yes, and when they're th it's like a foreign film in the sense that like if he has to fill out paperwork, they show him filling out paperwork. Well because the movie takes place in real time after the phone call. Is that what it is? Yes. The minute that's the phone call. That's why there were no cuts. Yeah. Right. Yeah. Well not that there are cuts. There are no time . There are no time cuts. Although there are the i the cheats like huge he's eight he's giant cheats. In eighty eight minutes he's able to traverse the city back at driving a taxi cab. Why does he drive a taxi cab? Why does that happen? We he can't get a taxicab and be like, take me here. He's like, I'm gonna drive a hundred dollars. Well, I think the idea was how do I move the seat forward? I'm too short. I can't reach the pedals. The idea was that he wanted to drive faster than get a taxi cabin dumb. But he wasn't driving that much faster than what he asked the guy to get out so they can have a private conversation we uh this gave him another twenty bucks it was like give us a moment hemorrhaging cash he's hemorrhaging cash to this cab driver who is sitting in the backseat there's so many shots for Pacino is like intensely looking through papers or talking on the phone and in the shot is a dirty cab driver in the seat back in the seat behind him. Kind of like uh well, what's up guys? I kept thinking about the guy's agent like Phil. You got a great scene. All with Buccino. You're working for two weeks. It's just like collateral. That's that's so like You're the Jamie Foxx character in collateral. Do I have a postcard or not? If you have not seen the movie well enough, have no idea what we're talking about. Basically, um so these girls are murdered. Al Pacino testifies at their trial with a a little Prince mustache. Yeah. And then the movie cuts nine days later. Oh my god. That female lawyer delivered her dialogue. Delivered her dialogue as if she was auditioning for I like real housewives. Like it was mental. This movie is so misogynist from the beginning to end. It is so the portrayals of women who so upsetting. And it looked like the first fucking take. It didn't look like the first take. Like just get this one out of your system. That's when it hit me. Your worst instinct. And John Avnet was like, I feel like I should ask her to come down like 90%. Fuck it. Check the gate. Move it on. Move it on. She was doing like a Dennis Miller like Your Honor, my client was flimpy japped just as soon as Anapiss finished off his second berreno. Like, what the fuck did you just say? And the judge, you can tell her to shut the fuck up. And he's just like, oh 's this guy away, and and and you're fine. We cut to nine years later, Al Pacino wakes up in a bed with this woman who's doing naked yhoga brus. And brushing her teeth. And brushing her teeth. In a way that looks like she's fucking given a Sonic Air a blowjob. Yeah, yeah. Exactly. She's got it in her mouth and her leg is up. It's you know, like girls do. You're right. You're right. It's a misogynistic movie . Was that was that supposed to be like this guy's got it made? What everyone wants to fuck Al Pacino. Everybody. That's the craziest thing I've ever seen. Indiana Jones in this movie. And the women they cast though are towering over him. Molly Rose. There are police dogs that are taller than him in this movie. Alpha Chino in this movie isn't tan, he's mahogany. Like he's an odd color. His wig is out of control. Is that a wig? Oh y right? Yes. It's a pompadour that has lost it's like Bruno Mars's pompador got a pompador. Like it's like it's as if he's practicing in this movie for his Phil Spectre role. It is huge. It does add inches. If you're wondering what that banging is, it's Pete Holmes smashing the table every time he's enjoying himself. I'm delighted and I refuse to come back to the show I just don't want people in home to be like, why don't they answer the door? I was gonna do it there, but I didn't. So Al Pacino is a fuck machine. Yeah. He's a forensic scientist, is what he is. He's super rich. He's not, I just want to make sure people understand. He's not a policeman. And he's so he's so almost a policeman. He act it's it's it's like CSI. It's like CSI when you think about it. Like those guys, they're not police. They are forensic scientists. But he does run a and he's also a professor. Yes. But he also runs a firm medicine. Well like the John Abrams firm that does question mark? Anyone? Oh my god, yeah. Forensic investigations, I assume. I can't the leading he's like the leading forensic investigator until this day, the movie the day the movie the the movie takes place on this day where everyone turns on him. Like he is the hero of the world, and then all of a sudden they're like, What is this? Shit on Al Day? Yeah. I can't even think of the characters name. Jack Graham. Jack Graham doing. Well, uh, first of all, the woman comes back, the woman who he saved, uh Janie Kate, kisses her twice. He kisses her twice twice tenderly tenderly whispers. You did a job. He's also he holds a lot of women's faces in this movie. Like puts a hand on the face. Well, do you know what I think it is? Do you know what I think it is? He has to grab onto something to pull himself up. He has to grab onto something. He's using her face as an apple box. Yeah, he's like, pull it, pull it up the . Can I get a half apple girl? He kisses her twice. That was another moment where I was like, Jesus Christ, I think this movie's gonna be terrible. Oh yeah. Have we gotten to the cookie yet? Well that's the cookie. She makes him cookies. They are basically celebrating that the murderer is going to be put to death that day. Everybody's partying. The murderer who, as the movie goes, not to tip it early, they just keep overstating that there's no evidence that this guy did it. Well, that's the thing nine years later, they're mad at Alpacino, going, Hey, hey, wait a second, maybe you were wrong. Yeah. Nine years later, come on, guys. And so he gets these cookies, he goes in to be interviewed, which then opens up to my favorite scene of the movie, which is Al Pacino serving people cookies and milk. In a board in a board room. In a board. No payoff. No, it's gonna be like there's gonna be a thing like the way he eats the cookie, the dunks the cookie, there's a joke about the cookie. At what point Jill Hennessy, what's her name? No, no, it's uh Amy uh Amy Brennerman comes out, who plays his assistant, comes out and says, Milkmaid. A real A real line in a movie. Not improvised. He's like, to her, my favorite line was he says, how come we never got married? And she goes, well, because you're gay and your commitment phobe. Yeah, yeah. She goes, I'm a lesbian. She goes, I'm a lesbian, which is even worse. Are you sure? Oh my god. It goes that's why we're perfect. Yeah. That's why. That's uh Wait, can someone explain to me though? So this guy's Milkmaid . So So this guy is put away. Milkmaid. Just think it just. Let's just get one. Let's just get one for safety. Amy, I promise we're not gonna use it. Amy, I promise we're not gonna use it. Just just give me one. And you're not gonna use the whole take of me lingering way too long, realizing she came in at a bad moment. That's like a 45 second shot of her being like, whoops! That's the L And then she moonwalks out of the goddamn room. Thanks for the cookies. Can someone explain to me what this guy was like what evidence there was to put him away nine years ago. Never mind. Basically they're treating it. Put this guy away. Like that's the whole thing. But there was no DNA. No DNA. That's what I didn't know The eyewitness repeatedly says that she didn't see anything in the beginning, remember? She did and we didn't either. But then we don't know like no one saw what happened. The kitty saw. Kitty saw. Kitty saw. And the kitty yeah, well the kitty. So basically then um you know so he he kind of he he Al Pacino's never phased. He's never really phased by anything. I'm so glad you said that. I kept waiting. Like he gets a phone call that's like, you have eighty eight minutes. So then he's like, no problem. Call me later. Here's it. And then he starts teaching a class. Take a listen to the phone call, because it's pretty great to see this the tenor of Al Pacino. Here we go. Yeah. Yeah. Hello. Hello. Hello. You have 88 minutes to live. What? You know how long 88 minutes can be, don't you? That's eleven forty-five AM. Who's this? TikTok. Who the hell is this ? Hey, hey. What are you saying? What are you saying? And then that's it. Then he just looks around the quad as if that person was standing in the quad with him. I'm sorry, I'm jumping out of order, but there's a goddamn motorcycle man from Trueblood. Yeah, Stephen Moyer. Stephen Moyer, who winds up having one line in the movie that is said through a closed door. That's right. Oh my god. Before he is subsequently shot. He couldn't be more suspicious. Suspicious things are happening to Al Pacino and he investigates everyone but that guy. He keeps seeing him. He's seeing the clamps three times. He saw him the at apartment, he saw him at the quad, and he sees him again in the lecture. He sees him in the quad afterwards. He sees him after the class too. And that's where he goes he's on the phone and goes, Who is that guy? Who is that guy? The guy is a murderer. Yes. But another false lead that is so ham-fisted and nothing. Before Al Pacino's seen this guy now three times and he just goes, who is this guy? And then goes back to his conference. Anyway, so uh during those phone conversations, he meets a sketchy police a campus security guy that he has checked out. Yeah. And he questions one of his students. He's like, Oh, give me your fucking phone, you piece of shit. By the way, he goes, Give me your phone, give me your phone. There is a stranger in the classroom in a goddamn leather jacket, lurking shadows scowling at you. Whose name is Guy Lafarge. And he's- by the way, you saw out he saw him outside of his apartment. Yeah no outside of the girls' apartment. And in a bad flashback he realizes that everyone in the movie was at that bar last night. Yes. In a fla wait, in a flash oh my god, that flashback made me furious. Because he has a fla okay, we g we're jumping so far ahead now. But he has a flashback where he r realizes that everybody was in the bar behind him. In the flashback, he can see he has he has perspective on the on things that are happening behind him. He's a forensic psychologist. He couldn't flashback. The flashback goes to Pacino kissing the girl. Then the camera moves off of them so you can see the rest of the people in the bar who have who are behind him. And and he has an epiphany as if to say like, oh, now I remember. Now I remember all those things that there's no physical way I could have seen last night because I was I had my back to all these people. And uh just again to to draw the thing. Everyone wants to fuck him in that bar that night. And and it seems to me that his entire office and his entire class is taught on the case that of this guy who doesn't seem that impressive as a killer. It's like he killed two women. Like, why would this mean it's a whole bunch of women? Oh, he killed all guys. No, no, remember in the phone call where he lists all the names off. Oh, okay. So other wacky names. Yeah. Judy Watto. Why don't you tell us where the body of the characters are cut cut like Star Trek uh Star Wars characters like Watto, the guy who works with the me. Well, what's guy's real name? Bobo. Guy. Guy LaFarge? It sounds like a Disney villain. Oh my god, I looked it up at one point. Hold on. Guy LeVarge! Not Guy Lafar ge! You gotta be kidding me. Guy Lafarge. I didn't fe likeel the movie was like an Al Pacino roller coaster because you were waiting for you're like, Oh, when is he gonna lose his shit? He never does. He never does. He never does. You want him to think so bad. He's high register Pacino, which you just heard, like, who is this? Like These are just some of the character names. Guy La Forge. Jeremy Goober. Johnny DeFranco. Wait, who is Johnny? Who is Johnny DeFranco? Oh, this campus security guy. DeFranco. JT Ray. Wait, wait, wa,it I.'m sorry Johnny, a name that sounds like Ani DeFranco. Yeah. Today's podcast is brought to you by our friends over at Squarespace. 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Just find out who's on the the top list of people who want to kill me? And his other guesses are Is it you? Like just anybody. Everybody. Anybody. Everybody within his peripheral vision. It's all the people that are right there. It's like Lily Sobieski, um Molly Ringwald. Molly Ringwald, yeah. And uh and the guy from the OC, Ben McKinney. And when they when they did that push-in on all their faces, I was like, is this a joke? It's obviously not someone Is it? Could it be? I instantly was like, oh, it's all of them. I didn't think it was gonna be. I all looked at him with fuck me eyes. Yeah, including the OC because everybody was looking at him like the Indiana Jones. Yeah, Guy Lafarge was up for it. I just want you guys to know that the guy who wrote this movie also wrote a lot of the Fast and F a lot of the Fast and the Furious movies. Hollow Men and then Canine, the Jim Belushi dog movie Yes. And uh and then the I guess a sequel to Time Cop called Time Cop Berlin the. That would be amazing. Uh I want to yell more about this movie. Just bring like anything. Well there was a sequence that really made me crazy, which was when okay, so they get they all have to leave the university 'cause there's a bomb scare. He goes down to his um to his car to get out of there. Lily what's her last name's? Baby Helly Helen Hunt. Baby Helen Hunt. He finds Baby Helen Hunt in a stairwell and she's saying that she's just been stabbed or a tap ped around or something. He spends I think two minutes of screen time running around looking for a guy who has blood on his hands. And and they don't and they they they remember one of them is a woman? One of the cars that we stopped is a woman. Oh yes, this is my favorite part. Yeah, because she said that she bit their or their cut their hip there. And then basically Alpatino stopping everyone in the parking, let me see your hands. Yeah. Let me see. I want that as my ringtone. Let me see. But looking back at it all, but looking back at it all, because now you know at the end of the movie we find out that she is the copycat. Spoiler alert. Spoiler alert. She's a Seattle Slayer. And she can I just jump ahead to that she's r she effortlessly is repelling the the girls. Yes. Oh I have a big problem with this. It took two men to pull her up, but Lily could do it with one. She has psycho strength. Yes. Lily Sobieski at the end is is the is revealed to be the murderer and has has her n next victim hanging above a like auditorium or some big thing and is holding it in one hand and is able to like start tape recorders and do whatever she wants do to. She's so easy. She lets the woman fall ten feet, then effortlessly pulls her back. Right back up. And then all of a sudden, like when the action scene happens, like the woman drops and Al Pacino's like, oh, and then like Al Pacino's buddy, a cop, they both are like, oh they're trying to pull her back up and now it's impossible. It's impossible. But that's that is like we said, that is at the end is Can I fucking sp one more thing about that. Was she blind? I don't know what was going on. No one else was confused. I know she wasn't really blind. But there's a moment. Let me explain. Look, what are you talking about? Well, get ready for something weird. She Al Pacino comes in and Lily Sophia. The movie's so bad I would have believed anything. Yeah. And for a brief moment, I'm being vulnerable right now. I thought that Lily Solid another twist was that she was blind. Listen, I will play it for you right now and you'll know what I'm talking about. Al Pacino comes in and he has a gun drawn. Yes. And she's got that weird vacant face. Like she's not looking at anything. She's just kind of like soft focused. And she says, Is that a gun? And she goes, Is that a gun? Do you have a gun? And he goes, Yes, I have a gun. And then she goes, put it down. And then he's like, I've put it down and slide it over to me. And then he tries to slide it just a little bit and I was like, because she's blind. Oh, and now I'm remembering actually there's another point in that scene where he keeps on saying a number of times, what if I were to tell you there was an FBI agent pointing a gun to you at? I was like, oh my God. I I played it back in my mind. I was like, we didn't ever see her reading or anything. You know what? She could have been blind. She could have been blind. We never saw that 's in the DVD extras. Well there clearly were things in this movie that were done all on post and I would the one thing that I want to bring my attention to is there's a scene in the car with the girl uh the the uh the redhead and Tim Cummings and she's with Al Pacino. Most unnecessary sweater removal goes to God. Well she obviously fuck him too. Oh my god. She is like gunning for Pacino. Oh big time. Big time. And like he's over in his amazing loft. Which by the way, when he enters into the loft, the security guard, like he has a thing like, How'd you know my name? Yeah. You're the security guard that works in this fucking building. And then Kim and the security guard share a look that is like real weird. I'm I'm remembering that differently. It's a temp guy. He goes, where's Earl? But you know, you're right that there's something fucked up happening. He goes, where's Earl? And he goes, Oh, I'm not the but you might as well just go, I'm not the murderer. I'm a suspect as well. And that also happened when Molly Ringwald is in the parking garage. She's like, what are you doing here? And she's like, I'm just coming here to get my car where I always leave it. I'm not the murderer. Like she might as well just do that. But I feel like everyone in this movie was acting like everyone should say their line and then twirl their mustache . Yeah, maybe, maybe, maybe. Everyone's a maybe. So this guy isn't Earl, the door guy isn't Earl. And he goes, Doctor, what's his name? Dr. Dr. Graham. Dr. Graham goes, Dr. Graham , there's a package for you. And then he goes, okay. And then he goes, how did you know my name? And he goes, I didn't. It was a question. So let me get this straight. Everyone that comes in, you're going, Dr. Graham. And if you say yes, you get the package. Yeah. What kind of a door guy are you? This is why you're a goddamn temp and not a real door guy. But maybe maybe the uh the killer went in and said when you see a very short man with a crazy beard and very tan skin coming in. It's gonna look a child to you or I He probably his head won't pass he his head will not go past your desk. If you see troll hair walking by your desk, if you see a man that belongs atop a pencil . Give him this. This there were so many eerie shots of that door guy that I thought for sure, still, still investing and committing to the movie, I was like, surely this man is amazing S.olid a solid ninety percent of this movie is Al Pacino answering and talking to a on a cell phone. This movie should just be called telephone calls. Phone calls . You know what? Yeah. And there's always caller wait, call waiting and stuff. He's like, let me conference you in. So much so he's getting away. That's it. He's on the phone at one point with whoever he's on the phone with, and then the bad guy's like , Did you get you get TikTok? Did you get my package or whatever? You can't do that. Yeah, there's no rule. Like he just jumped in. I mean, oh and so basically can I say what's the thing about the door guy is you know what this movie's like? It's like life. Cause you keep meeting people that don't have anything to do with anything. It's like, hi, I I'm Ben. I'm like, you don't have anything to do with my storyline. Why do you have a full name? I can't deal with this. They do that everyone has a full name . What about what about Sarah Jacobs? What about Bethany Monroe? Who are all these people? Why does everybody have full names? There's a girl who literally walks by and goes, Hi Dr. Graham goes, Hi Lauren. And it's like that's the sum total of her acting performance. Hi Lauren. But you're weak. Who why do we care about Lauren? Is she a suspect? I feel like Al Pacito's like, I gotta name everybody. I'm a very famous guy in this campus. But that even if you Al, could you stop making up names for the for the day players? Hello, Teresa McDonald. Uh nice to meet you. How's your yoga shop? I hope it's doing well. I enjoy that yoga very much. I'll see you tomorrow . I only do yoga Mondays and Wednesdays. Goodbye. Trisha McDonald. So much information, and it's flushed immediately. If you watch this movie, and I hope you do, no pay no attention. Pay no attention. You'll learn all these people. The the doorman, I do want to point this out, I don't know , but like picture the doorman putting his like face against the wall and kind of just like he also does that thing, he's like, alright. He's just staring at him like with his face. Did you the wall? Like he like he like kind of rounds that corner when Al Pacino's getting into the elevator. And he's kinda like just staring at him super creepy. And he's got like a scar on his neck, and I was like, And like a weird eye. He's a killer, but everybody's the killer. Why was Kim giving him that crazy look? Who knows? And why did he they use the take where he explained that somebody called and he uses the flashlight? Oh yes, the phone he's like, yeah, somebody called for you and he holds up the the flashlight and Al he did that in a scene with Al Pacito. Mike, I like the choice you're making just to to tell Pacito y s you somebody called for him. But like maybe he's not gonna get what a call is. So could you just hold up, I don't know, hold up your flashlight to your ear to in to insinuate that it's a funny. I actually think that's the only guy in the movie that was aware that it was like a comedy. Like he was like, I'm gonna do it funny. I'm gonna do a funny take. Whoa, dude, I th I almost forgot about my favorite scene, which is I guess there the there's like smoke coming through the building and they have to escape, and then Al Pacino does this thing where he jumps in front of a fire truck for no reason just to roll out of the way of it. Alone in my apart ment, daylight laughed for about a sad because I felt like that was totally added in because Al Pacino's like, you know, I want to look like a hero. Like I that really bummed me out. I love Tom Cruise. Tom Cruise, great runner. Al Pacino, not a good runner. Every time he runs, he looks like he's holding two eggs in his hands. And it was so it wasn't like he was doing anything heroic or trying to help. He wanted to he just got in the way of a truck and a fire truck and just kind of rolled out of the way of this and then and then the his car blows up. Spoiler, his car blows up, and uh and we all knew it was gonna blow up, but then I was like, the whole point is that they're gonna kill him at a specific time. Yes. But they rigged his car to blow up. Just so they could get him early? What if they did get him? It would have been like, well fuck, I had this whole finale where I'm wearing the catwoman suit and I'm baby Helen Hunt. But there's no but there's no like And why was that apartment on fire? Why did anything of it? I think to drive them out. I think to drive them out of the fire bomb scary. I think to get them out of the apartment. It was around that moment that I realized this movie was n't uh thirty-four blocks or whatever. I thought it was gonna be like that. I kept I kinda I was like, why isn't this in New York? Thirty four blocks would be another one we should do. I'm sure that's just equally bad. This movie's press. Um go ahead. Oh, I was just gonna say uh this is the point where he hijacks the cab. Which is so Oh but the problem before that is at this point in the movie though, you want him to just say, get out of the cab, like we're going to sta I am going to die. He's negotiating. I'll give you a hundred dollars if you let me take your cabs. I can drive your cash. You can stay in it. What is your full name? What is your wife's name? What's a maiden name? It's like a memory. The whole movie's a memory game at the end. Oh wait, did we forget about the uh Where did he go the the uh the the interview on TV? Oh yes. That's why that's one of the things I was gonna say. Yeah, because that happened in the apartment. The bad guy he conferences in Mike Dit ka. He calls Mike Ditka. Wait, what? The guy with the sligary looks like Mike Ditka. The guy that he wronged for. Neil McDonough. He calls Neil McDonough's on like CNN. I still don't get it. He's like it's being simulcast, just set up seven. Call MSNBC and get me on with this guy. What does that even mean? And so he calls in, he has minutes to live, but has time to call MSNBC to talk to those uh to talk to Neil McDonough and like try and he's like, I'm gonna I'm gonna mess with his head. Yeah. I'm g getonna him I.'m I'm gonna get him. gonna get him to come out of his show. And that's probably the best Pacino of it. Yeah like in the movie where Yeah tell me tell me about Dama did it you fucking cocksucker and then they have this argument where like, oh by the way, this movie is obsessed with TiVo. Uh you hear that 's always that was added in post. Because they realized later they were like, he just pauses the television? Isn't it nineteen ? Oh, it's two thousand and then also he in the middle of the interview uh the the guy gets a stay of execution and they just stop the interview. Like uh the interview's over. Like, okay, like it just like they just go away from they're in the middle of this heated exchange. And Pacino just like Pacino just pushes paws and hangs up. Yeah. And and then he can we also he called in to CNN or C whatever M MSNB. MS MBC. MS. MSNBC. He calls in. It's not enough that he's having a conversation with the guy that's on his TV. We got the fucking cop partner conferenced in so he can hear it too. I kept wanting to be like Simulk seven fifty eight. Oh yeah, he must he must be on a delay. Yeah. There's no way he can be in real time on the TV and listening to the TV. It would literally be a delay. And they would be like, please turn your TV off. Go into another room. And and the other thing was too much. Are you watching this while you're doing it?? What the fuck The picture of him that they use on the TV when he's called in is like a jack off shot. Yeah, it's it's almost like hey, hey, hey Jack right here and he's like, Huh? He looks he looks like he's been frightened by a ghost. Yes. And and I love the fact that he's unaware that his photo's being taken in that photo. It's just like, uh his cop buddy is listening and the cop buddy knows that he has eighty-eight minutes to live and uh and the guy's like the killer's like, what if you only had minutes to live? Yeah. Clearly saying like he's in on it. And then the cop buddies like doesn't trust him two seconds after that. It's like, ah, you're lying. On eBay, every find has a story. Like if you're looking for a vintage band tee, the one you wore everywhere until you lost it, now you're on eBay. And there it is. The things you love have a way of finding their way back to you. Especially on eBay. From rare collectibles and vintage cars to designer fashion. It's all there. 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There's a scene where he breaks his cell kids and you have to watch American treasure Al Pacino pretend to drop his cell phone in the stairwell. And it's broken in a way that only could be done with like a bullet. Yeah. And he just dropped it on the ground the way we do. Gingerly dropped it. He gingerly and he kind of gave it a voice. He bobbles it. He's got the thing. Oh. What if what if I maybe do uh like a bobble ? John, John, get over here. John, I had an idea. What if I bobble bobble? I'm looking at the phone. I'm looking at the way it's broken, right? And I don't I can't do it without it. You're great. I love that album. I don't think it would uh be realistic if I don't bobble it. So anyway, no reason he breaks the cell phone, you're like, oh that's kind of interesting because now he doesn't have any contact with the killer and the whole premise of the movie is that he's gonna be reminded how many minutes and then he gets another phone gets all his calls forward into that Why were we forced to watch that? What's the point? What is the point of that? But my v and then my favorite moment at the end when the k when the uh when he kills Lily uh Sobiaski, he saves the day, everything's going good. Then the killer calls him on the phone thinking that it's he's Lily Sobiesky. And then he goes he has like a big speech to him. He's like, uh you messed up. And he's holding the phone apart from his head. Interesting choice. Yeah. And then he goes like he goes, uh what does he say like uh twelve hours to live? TikTok. And then he throws the phone. Okay, I'm that thought Lily might be blind, but I thought the phone was gonna explode. Oh, oh , this might be. Oh yeah? Nine. And do we and and then the whole thing was like when he goes up to confront Lily Sobieski, she makes him confess. Yeah. Now And he confesses immediately. He confesses immediately, but I don't understand as a viewer if he did coach those people, if he did hide evidence because at the end of the movie he kinda takes that tape and puts it in his pocket like guys what was she gonna do with that tape? I don't know. She's a murderer at this point. She's not gonna like go and now introduce it as evidence, right? Doesn't make any fucking sense. I guess every part of the movie too, because there's a couple moments where like the uh the Molly Ringwald clone calls him up and she's like, I did it. I'm behind the whole thing. You're like, Oh okay, I buy it. No, it's that's because Lily Sobieski has a gun to their head. Right, but but you don't know it at that point. So but even at that point you're like, okay, I guess that always seemed really obvious to me though. I I know we could see her and she was sweating and stuff, but he would always buy it. He'd be like, hey, meet me in your apartment it's me I've been setting you up uh it's me and he's and he's like are you he keeps getting those well the whole tape the whole tape that sits off the whole day is a woman going like Jack Graham totally lied and he did all this bad stuff. Did I say everything you wanted to say now? Don't hurt me. And it's like, alright, this tape in book, Kate. She was clearly under fucking dress. She said it on the tape. She mispronounced Yes. She got nervous for the reading. Why would you believe someone who is who's li you then watch being murdered for over an hour? Yeah, wait, but I have a question. How d oh, I guess Lily Zobesky Zobies ky got the semen from the hooker to place in those bodies? Yeah, because she was a made out with the hooker. Am I the only one that was Oh wow, you I I I stopped trying at that point. Also in that scene where they were like, they found your semen in her in her vagina, was like, foul, fucking taking some risks. Yeah. That's what I thought I was like, this is the girl he met at the bar like buddy. Rapid. We're all dogging it. We're all dogging it, Vegina. I'm Jack Graham. Forensic scientists. I don't use condo. A man who makes his living swabbing up seam and just blows up. That's probably why he was so shocked to find out she was an escort. Wait, wait a minute, what ? I w I gotta give you bear bags that girl. That's why he was so upset. He's gotta go in. Hang on. I thought she was a law student. I wouldn't have raw dogged her if I knew she was an escort. He spent 15 minutes going to a clinic to get tested in the movie. That explains this burning I've got. Uh-oh, I guess I do have eighty-eight minutes to live. He's gonna fucking die from uh SD. June, do you wanna do June had uh we have a new segment that we would like to do here. This is uh a segment called Say What? And basically we're just gonna just take a piece of dialogue if you guys remember this. Uh you know what Pete you should actually do it. You should read the Jack part. Take a second to read it over. And uh and this is one of my this is I'll be reading Shelley. Alright, here we go. Shelley, there's been a break in my place. In the mo in my mo Sorry. In my most secure area. Did you ever give anyone clearance to go into my secure f Jack, what are you saying? Did you ever let an unauthorized person into I can't read it? This is a real lie . Did you ever let an unauthorized person into my secure files are a . That's a line that American treasure Al Pacino