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And that means you'll find more peace of mind with them Relieve your insur anoia with NjM insurance by visiting njM. com for a quote today. Okay, imagine this. A honeybee is out here doing her thing in an orchard, lands on a mystery apple blossom, then carries that pollen over to a honey crisp tree. Fast forward a few months, and no exaggeration, something amazing is born. The Sugar bee apple. packed with notes of honey, caramel and molasses, plus an extra crisp crunch, suugar bee apples are perfect for snacking, baking, and everything in between Download our new free recipe book and find a store near you at hellougarBe. com SugarBe apples, naturally sweet from B to you All right, what's up jerks? It's Jason. Paul's away on a trip. Wow, wow, wow. Wouldn't it be nice? Which means I have been for to fill in for him and interact with you weirdos, which, as you know, I don't care for. I don't like to hear from you and I don't want to talk to you directly. Regardless, we're here. We've got to do it. So Scott, if you wouldn't mind, play the goddamn theme song Hello Ch and my old friend. Oh wow. It' time for you to host again g. Oh wow, this is for me Holy cows, Mbe Paul is still sleeping. They know, he's out of town. Lave the show with you for safekeeping. Wow. All the freaks in the discord that love you will go worer. Well, disconnect the discord. What's up, jerks You countess actually Okay. You know what? Here's the deal, great work, really impeccable work. and I'm seeing here that Chris Finkey did it. Chris Finke, great work, outstanding work. I'm familiar with Chris Finkey as a regular contributor to the Dooughboys podcast. Scott does Finke regularly contribute to this podcast as well, or is this a one off Yeah, he sends in a good amount of things. Okay, great. only revealing that I do not listen. I do not listen to this show. Okay, terrific Here we are, get ready for it. We're going be talking about the recent episode about the gem of a movie called Circus Island or Circus camp, depending on what you found it as A movie that one discord user Listen, I am be let me be very clear. I'm being forced to talk about the discord. I don't want to. I have other things to talk about. I came here ready with notes to tell you guys everything that's going on in my personal life to pull the curtain back and give you all the information. When I got here, producer Scott said noope You've got to talk to the Dcord fans. So great news, Quantum Volt Vptam Volt thinks the tagline should have been Circus Island, America's creepiest home video. U greatreat work, quuantum volult for that alt movie tagline I guess that's something we do here is alt movie taglines. Again, so much is going on in my personal life. I'd wish I could share it with you. but Instead, I've got to say these words. Remember, if you have an alt movie tagline, submit it to us on the discord at discord d.gg slash HD T GM. and If you have a Last lookooks theme song just like Finy did, go to h dtgM. comot See these should these should be the same place One, I'm sending some people to discord, I'm sending other people to a website. Let's streamline this. And click the sububmit a song button on our home page. Remember, just keep them short. fifteen, twenty seconds at best. I'll be honest, Finkies was dynamite lengthwise. although boy, to do sounds of silence, you're doing that intro, which we know then triggers. It would be like doing in the air tonight Crapping out right before the drum fill, rightight? Ooh, how about that I would love somebody hereere's a challenge assholes. I'd like a full length. Now I'm asking for you to break the rules. I know we're saying fifteen to twenty seconds, which is great. I would like a rule breaking full length in the air tonight that is about the podcast. okay? Challenge is Okay, Gauntlet is thrown All right, so now again, I've got so many notes about so much that's going on in my personal life that I really was so excited to share with you, the audience. but instead, I'm reading this Coming up on today's episode, we'll be hearing all your corrections and omissions on circus Island AKA circus camp Then Paul and I have a great just chat with Justin Halper. Boy, we already recorded it, spoiler alert, not to pull the curtain back too much and it was great You know Justin is one of the showrunners of Abbott Elementary and the showrunner of the animated Harley Quinn show that you've heard Paul and I talk a lot about how much we loved We also talk about how Shane Black influenced Justin's upcoming book Get Lost the process of pitching the Harley Quinn show. and oh yeah, we also talk about the term restaurant. So you won't want to miss that. It is a pretty dynamic and chesty conversation. And, just like Paul always does, at the end of Every Last lookooks, I'll eventually reveal the movie we're covering on next week's episode. Or maybe I won't Maybe I'll choose to be my own man and I won't do everything Paul does. Maybe it'll be a fucking secret Before we move on, I've gott to announce. We're returning to Largo in Los Angeles for two live shows on july thirty first and august first. Get tickets now at HDD It's impossible to Scott, keep all this in. It's impossible to say the accurate it's dumb. We got to think of a way to refer to the website that just gets people there. The way that Dooughboys has birdfuck d. com If you enter birdfuck dot com it just takes you to Dooughboys. We need Okaykay, here's a thing, audience. Maybe it's one of our classic catchphrases, Mbe what's up jerks is exactly takes us to the how did this getetmade. com. Maybe there's something easier to say than HdtgM. com That's just osterous and I'm furious it still exists. Okay Next week on july first, you can finally see June in legally blonde, the prequel series L. It's on Prime video. It's going to be absolutely fantastic. I'm very excited. You can probably go now and pre save it on prime. and that's it Let's get to the episode. So let me get this straight, Scott. We do plugs first Why do we do plugs first? Are we just assuming people don't stay till the end? Yeah, we want to make sure people hear it. Okay, how about this? You know what? I don't mind it, but as a listener, you know what I don't want? I don't want to start with plugs. And I get it, it's easier to ignore plugs at the end, but how about this just to incentivize people to listen to the whole episode at the end. After every single thing that's happened, I am introducing a new segment. But you're gonna have to wait It's time for corrections and omissions. Hit the theme. Omissions, corrections and omissions. If you want to help us out you gotta tell us what we arere missing Creressions and omissions, corrections and omissions. If you want to help us out, you gotta tell us what we're missing. Okay, thank you, John Cohen for that theme song. Great work Again, these are these are pretty great. These are exactly the right length. They're dynamic, they're interesting. I'm enjoying it. belieelve the next words are about to come out of my mouth and I want to just once again stress vigilantly, I did not write this script. It was written for me These are never words I would choose to say. and in fact, I say them out of Distress. Okay Let's go. Mm to the discord So listener John Steeel I mean, I hope that's his real name. You know what? I'd love it if we started only choosing people because they use their real names. I'd love to talk to real people. John Steeel, I hope that's a real person. So John writes I just wanted to point out one of the best moments in the movie When Carlos and Curly Landers are having their romantic beach dinner And he tells her that her eyes remind him of his ex wife's. The music comes to a halt and there's a Boing sound effect just wanted to bring this moment to light Yeah, no, the movie is nuts and there's a bunch of weird sound effects, so I'm not surprised there was a Boyoyoying. This movie I think maybe also had a record scratch. Like this movie had real cartoony elements to it. Thanks, I guess John for pointing it out. All right, next thing Rob from Long Island. Okay, Rob from Long Island. you piece of shit Let me get this straight Carlos got the circus Mexiali job offer before his wife even thought of the idea for the summer camp But then they plann the camp's big finale show for the same day the camp's leader has to leave for Mexico Why not just schedule the show before he has to leave Also, I don't know if this was the same for everybody, but at the end of the episode there was an ad for a foster care program. I found that funny Okay, Rob from Long Island I agree, you know, these people are in control of their schedules. I'll be honest, I'm not even sure why he maintained the circus Mexoi job. I guess it was just because it was always always his dream finally come to fruition. U there's a world in which if the movie was really wanting to be great Everybody from camp joins him in Mexico to support him in Circus Mexiclli and they all end up involved in the circus there. but that would have probably been too expensive to do But boy, I would have liked that so much more is it anything to the movie. And then in terms of at the what you say here at the end of the episode, there was an ad for the Foster careare program. I found that funny. I don't find anything about the Foster careare program funny. and I'm shocked that you would say that, disconnect the discord because of speech just like this. I am curtailing freedom of speech U Okay, here we go. Oh, great. These are my favorite words to read in the script. Enough discord comments for now. That's right, discord zip it. After a quick break, I'll answer some phone calls. What not live. Not lie. voice messagage. to them right? Yeah, voice message. Okay D't do not I will not. 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Go to Vioriot com slash liibbi and discover the full versatility of Viori clothing Exclusions apply, visit the website for full terms and conditions. Okay Stop skipping ahead through the ads. We're back Circus Island Corrections and Omissions part two Boy, I like this even less than saying let's go to the discord. Let's go to the phones First up callall from anonymous. O the hacker group I hope it's the anonymous hacker group Wow, I still have so many questions, but I'm going to go ahead and ask a question about the school. that Gabby went to and her mom ran. I don't think very well So early on When they're establishing the bully dynamic that Ashley has, she steals Gabrielle's calculator before a test. Gabrielle tells her teacher she can't find her calculator and the teacher automatically gives her a zero. Now, obviously, I know there are so many other things in this movie. that are way more outlandish Wow, just the complete lack of empathy on that teacher's part. and he has a literal orphan in his class I found it to be rather rather shocking And so yeah. I just I had to bring that up Okay, anonymous. Thanks for the call. Here's my response She wasn't prepared for the test. She's supposed to have a calculator. That's a zero Even though Gabby's mom runs the school, in fact think she should be given special treatment If Gabby gets to take the test even without a calculator or they give her a calculator, isn't that favoritism because of the her mom is the principal? I would have a problem with that Gabby gets a zero. Now do I like it? Absolutely not. The villain Ashley is to blame. Now I think we're meant to feel bad for her. If she had not gotten a zero, we wouldn't have felt the weight of Ashley's malice, you know? So absolutely story wise I think for the story to make sense, Gabby gets a zero, but also in general If my kid showed up at school without a calculator How is she gonna write boobs upside down First of all, How is she going to do that? That's number one. Second, how's she going to take the test? Here we go. Next up is Ethan from Sarasota. Now First and first mostly, I'm going to say this. don't like taking calls from Florida. Okaykay? not interested. I don't I don't stand for it, but we're going to allow it now, Ethan You are currently speaking for your state. If this is a good call, we will allow calls from Florida going forward. If not This was it and Ethan is to blame as to why we'll never take another call from Florida. Okaykay? Great. let's go. Hi, my name is Ethan, and I'm actually from Sarasota, Florida. I'm a third generation here actually And I heard you guys talking about Circus Island and you were conjecturing What this sailor circus could be about. And the truth is that we have a high school here and mascot is The sailors and attached to that is The training circus called the Silor Circus and they teach kids and adolescents all the way up U circus arts and there are performances camps. My kids actually doing a camp there this next couple of weeks. And they learn trampoline and highwire and trapeze and silks. It's pretty rad, actually But it's been here for ages and I have no doubt that if the family was involved in Circus in any way, they also knew the sailor Circus. and I'm wondering if maybe Circus Island is a love letter to Sarasota, Florida, which is a very strange thing to want to do a love letter too, but you know, it's nice that we're in the news for that and not Other things? Anyways. u I love the show and figured I could add some context. So thanks so much guys Athan Congratulations. We will now accept calls from Florida. That was a masterpiece in additive writing in regarding the show. That was that's it. context, exactly what you said, provide some context. The idea that there's a real circus school and that your kid goes to it. Awesome. I love that. That sounds really cool. And I love this bit of information because this is information that we not only don't have but helps us understand the larger world. This isn't a hey did you know Uhh, you got it wrong. I'm scolding you. or well, I thought it was, you know what I mean? Most of these are absolute dogshit But this is the this is the model. This is the platonic ideal of a correction and omission. Now that I'm saying it out loud Correction is part of the problem. asking to be corrected. when in fact, I think the assumption should be that we're always right You know what I mean? So I think it should be instead of correction and omission, it should be opinion and context You know, because you're giving me your opinion a lot of times. is just what you think is going on Or what you thought was funny. And context is what we need, which is what Ethan from Sarasota is doing. Now Ethan from Sarasota, dynamite stuff. This is without a doubt, the best the best thing that's come from the discord. Oh wait a minute, this wasn't from the discord. That's why it's good. Okay. And now I'm going to read these words Also, I have some more Sarasota information from Sarasota native Sean McBee, who writes on Discord U So now we're back to the discord, huh Okay, Sean McMeee tells us number one, the great Paul Rubinens is an alumnus of Sarasota High School. Incredible. I mean, maybe one of the most genuinely humbling star struck moments of my life was meeting Paul Rubens and what a sweet, wonderful, thoughtful, kind, curious man he was. incredible Sean McPee number two There's actually a neighborhood in town where all the houses are built with low counters because that's where little people in the circus originally settled down. Yes, I think we did we talk about this that there was a Ringling Bothers like town or where where they would set up for the summer or something like that for training or something like that I think we did know that. That's very interesting. I agree And then Sean McBe's number three is local law, says there's an old Sarasota law stating that you must pay the fare on a parking meter if you tie your elephant to it Sean McBe How often? How often, how often is that happening? It's not real Don't give me bullshit here. Maybe there maybe some funny story at some point there was an elephant in town, but you can't tell me just because circus folk live there that there' they they esche cars and ride around on elephants. Get fucked Sean McBy U Okay, as Sean McBee asking you, are you any relation to Jazz Virtuoso Cecil McBe That would be my question, although I'm sure McB is a common last name, but I'm just curious Moving on Tim in Pennsylvania. What doa got for us on the phone Hey, Paul, in the show you talked about the origins of this movie And I'm sure being in Sarasota near Ringling Bothers had some influence, but it goes back way further than that In the nineteen eighties, there was a show called Circus of the Stars on CBS For those that are younger than me, it took stars from movies and TV and put them into circus acts And I was sure that one of the Landard's sisters was on it. So after a bit of research, I found out that Judy was on it Tice in nineteen eighty two in nineteen eighty three And what circus event do you suppose she performed in That's right, the trapez I had to dig a bit to find footage. It is on YouTube, but she performed with Todd Bridges, Barbie Benton, Leslie Allletter, and Jamie Lynn Bauower And she actually does some Kind of cool tricks Although Todd was clearly the star of that show, go find it on YouTube. It's worth the trip down meemory Lane All right, Tim in Pennsylvania. I mean, I of course remember circus of the Stars. This was like this is an era where there was a ton of like celebrities doing dumb shows on primetime network television that would be like this, where they would learn circus stuff or they would do daredevil stuff or stuff like this U And so this was one of them Circus of the stars. So let's take a look at this. Next, Julie Landon performing a super split with a hf turn. Yep. Okay, this is straight trarapeze. She's doing it in a bikini U Everybody's in bikinis Um Okaykay, yeah. I mean, look at this. She's absolutely crushing this She can abute wow. She can absolutely do this That was undeniably impressive. That's Judy Landers covering her hair for her next turn. And here's why. Oh, I see. They're covering her hair for the next turn and catch because she's gonna jump through a hoop of fire. must wow her shoot over through that hoop. This is cool This helps me understand why the Lander sisters wanted to do circus Island. They're clearly very activated by the circus. Now my question is A wow. Wow, she did it. Wow. Great work. Impressive. you know, for I'm certain this took some degree of off practice of learning like she's doing legitimate trapeze stuff that is, I would think, very hard So that's I thought very impressive. Anyway, next up John Keller, who's one of our fans, put us in touch with someone who was actually not only in the movie, but he was one of the kids performing at circus camps. So let's go Hey, how' this get madeade? My name is Nathan Dedz. I'm actually in the Circus Island movie that you guys get a podcast review on. And my friend John Keller, who's a good friend of mine told me I should reach out and kinding to give you guys my experience on it I was a junior in high school and we were in a circus program that was after school And Chrisy Landers, who's in the movie was a good friend of ours and was in the circus with us. Her mom, Judy, approached us and asked us if we'd be interested in being in this movie And Judy and Audrey Landers are some of the nicest people you'll ever meet in your entire life. swweetest, most kindhearted And we werere like, yeah, that'd be a great idea So we actually got to miss like two months worth of school just to be on this movie And everybody you see in the movie was we were all really tight nitched. All the circus kids you see, were' all in the program together. We all grew up together Charlie Barnett, who's the lead male character, was actually a friend of mine that we did musical theater with together And it was awesome to have him in the movie. And then we got to meet Ed Marinero who was, you know, is really exciting and awesome to meet him And we just got to spend two months playing around on circus equipment with friends and family And just having a great time and I mean, we got treated like royalty for two months You know, to the point where it was almost like a fairy tale So Thank you guys for, you, watching the movie and taking some kind of interest in it. and it was a blast from the past, you, twenty years ago Seems like it was just yesterday. so Thank you so much. Wow. And you know what? boy, I love hearing that because I feel like so often on the show, we are hearing from people who have Either some background information on the movie, they were involved with the movie or something. And so so, so many of the stories are overwhelmingly negative You know, the filmmakers were were, you know, problematic or stealing money or all sorts of shenanigans going on. And boy is it so heartening to hear that not only especially for a movie that had so many kids involved, that those kids, like you're saying, Nathan were treated like royalty, that it felt like a camp, that it felt really you know imp important and special to them and that the filmmakers, the Lander Sisters, were so generous to them because that is incredible. What an opportunity and what an exciting thing to have happen in to you and your friends in high school at that age. I think that's awesome and makes me feel like really great about the movie because There's a lot of the movie that looks like sketchy. It looks like a bunch of children like on a weird island. you kind of are like I hope doing like tumbling and jumping and circus stuff that you're like, I hope everybody's safe. I hope they're keeping everybody safe because on these lower budget movies, you know I've been on lower budget movies where I'm like, I don't feel safe even remotely And I'm a grown man who's nervous to advocate for myself. So it's awesome that they were not only had a great time, but were protected and felt wonderful about the movie. and I'm thrilled to be bringing attention to something that for Nathan was an ultimately positive experience. I think that's dynamite. And it's great to hear that the Lander sisters treated them so well Incredible Okay, last call. This is by the way, my favorite words on the show. Last call Craig in Ontario. Now Scott, sorry, I thought we weren't doing any more Canadian calls. Yeah, I don't know how this one snuck in. I don't know what would happen here. Do you want Do you want to skip it or should we give them Let's hear what he says and then we'll decide. Okay. If it feels too Canadian, we can get rid of it Hey, Paul. Frank from Hamilton Ontario, callalling I just wanted you to know that when I went on my local librarary's hoopless site to download some books today I saw that Circus Island was trending in the movie section I can only put this down to the awesome influence that you, Jason, and June have on the Movie Watching Public Love the show. Thanks. All right, you know what, Craig from Ontario? I'm gonna allow this call to make it on the show. You're welcome. I'll be honest, mostly because boy did I appreciate the bird song in the background I loved your your point was lovely. I'm so often like so delighted when I hear that Um The choice of movies we make alters the algorithms or jumps one of these weird movies into like the into the lists for like you're saying hoopla or, you know, because people will talk about it as if you know, the movies we choose then suddenly enter, you know, start trending on like the on Amazon Prime or wherever it's streaming. And I love that I love when our audience demonstrates their true power If we really wanted to capture this audience and really attack a movie or elevate a movie, boy, I think we would be incredibly powerful. And this does give me an opportunity to once again shut out the librarians, shut out the libraries, shut out the library apps. So there's Hoopla that Craig in Ontario mentioned There's Libby, which is another one. There's a bunch of different library apps and not for nothing, your local library also inexplicably might still have DVDs for rent. That's still a thing So you know, don't feel like you have to sign up for every streamer just to get our movies. Don't feel like it's you have to go pirate a movie. Support the library, do the library. Let's all do the library. This is fantastic. I think everybody should be checking Hoopla and other free library resources when we announce our movies, which I'm about to do very soon. So thank you, Craig from Ontario for being one of the very few rational Canadians that I've ever spoken with. and by spoken with, I meant listen to leave a message. And if I'm honest I mostly chose the message because of the birds. I didn't open up my app to find out what birds they were. Yes, I have an app that tells me what bird song is playing. I'm fifty three They're telling me I got to pick a winner from these from these submissions Boy, I don't know. Wait, I have to just the calls or everybody today. for either the discord comments or the callers, whoever Okay. So first of all, discord, all discords are out. There's no winners coming from discord. I'm saying that with peace and love Um, Okay, Nate, you know what Nathan gets it Nathan gets it, even though I suspect he's from Florida, Nathan gets it because what I loved was the first person positive experience for this movie. I loved This person's not just giving me context for the movie in general They're giving me personal experience, context for the movie and it puts the movie in an even better light. that knowing that they all had a positive time, they got to skip school, they felt supported, they felt creatively engaged. Nathan You win and whoever recommended Nathan, John Keller. John Keller, thank you for making Nathan reach out to us because here's the thing and boy, boy are the super fans going to be mad? Nathan's not even a fan of the podcast John Keller is, but Nathan gets the award, even though my sneaking suspicion is, he's from Florida Okay, that's it. Nathan won. and for everybody who's jealous that you didn't win, hey Try again. Great news. You can submit again. whether you've got a correction or an omission or as I said earlier, an opinion or context Go to Go to the discord, you know where to find it or Try leaving us a voicemail at speakpipe. What? Speakpipe. com backsash HDTGM. Once again, Scott, we should have easily identifiable phrases for each of these hyperlinks that are like a thing that we say that brings us to that thing. that's like fucking call Paul You know what I mean? And it's just fucking, if you enter fucking call Paul in the internet, it just brings you to the to the voicemail box or whatever. Does that make sense? Yes, it does make sense, but you can also just click the links on our website or in the episode Sott. Scott, here's okay. You know what I'm going to do? Until further notice, go to birdfuck dot com Leave a message for us on the Do Boys website. okay? Leave messages for us on the Do Boys thing. They'll send them to Scott, okay birdfuck. com for all your issues. Okay We're gonna take one final break and when I come back, Paul and I will chat with Justin Halper before I announce next week's movie right back I in this Okay, imagine this. 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Keep checking in for our classic episodes that air every Tuesday. beforefore you know it, you'll have heard all the episodes. and I think we're at four hundred, Paul said recently, which is Chilling Here's the deal now, as I promised earlier, we're gonna talk to Justin Halperurn. His book is called Get Lost. It comes out july seventh, but you should all preordder it right now. That gives them information in the data mining, data scraping Asolute awful world we live in now. These are the things that matter. So go and preorder Justin's book Okay. Mike Hearth. My heth Do you think that's my girth is what he's trying to do Is he trying to do like a fake Mike Girth My Girth, give us a good just chat theme. will you T jge joren to turn to two t childap t chap two t childap chat count jas jack Just just j. Justin, so excited to have you on Just chat What a pleasure. Thank you so much for having me. I'm big fans of you both Justin, I feel like the one thing that you probably talk about a bunch when you're doing like any sort of interviews is like a little bit of your origin story, which is you you are like the first Twitter famous person that I think ever existed by creating like shit my dad says Like that was that took on a life that was truly I mean monumental. and what was that like for you to do something that was like a fun bit that then just becomes You know B big thing Well, I would yeah, I was like living with my parents when that happened. W I was literally living in a my dad wouldn't put my childhood bedroom Like he wouldn't let me like sleep. he wouldn't put a bed back in it. So I was on like an air mattress in the corner and still all of his like shit was in there because he had taken over the room after I left So it was I didn't even really know what Twitter is. a friend told me to throw up these it used to be my G chat status was something my dad said that day. so my friends could see it. And then my friend was like, you should put it up on Twitter. And it was like two thousand nine when like Nobody even really was like it was like C an international coacher race to a million followers. was like nobody really knew what it was. And then u And so I did put it on there and for a week, there was only one porn bot following it. that it was so early on in Twitter's existence, but porn bots already there. Already The earliest of early adopters. Yes. The two earliest adopters are porn bots and Paul sheer And then and then one day I woke up and there was like three thousand followers and literally by the end of the night, there was thirty thousand. And when I woke up in the morning, there was like one hundred fifty thousand and like o there was like five hundred thousand. So I was and I didn't even know how to check out ies at first. That's how little I knew about Twitter So I didn't even understand what was happening, really. I was like, this must be a mistake or something like that. And then when I finally figured out how to check that replied because I'm basically led eyed I saw all the flooding of like hly shif is really connecting with people. And then was that like the moment where you were able to like take off as far as your career because you were writing for maxim, you were writing magazine articles, right? You're doing a whole bunch of stuff U And then this goes huge. You write a book that is, you know, it becomes a giant bestseller. but then It was the goal always to kind of be writing for TV and doing that and like kind of being in this comedy space Yeah, I mean, that's what like I have a writing partner, Patrick Schumarker and we had I've been I've been a waer. so I've beenaing tables for about five or six years at that point And we had had a manager and we were trying to submit to places and all that kind of shit And it this was the thing that like when it took off peopleeople were like, oh, do you have you we had a few scripts and we had we were able to give representation and things like that based off of it. So we were like dabbling around the outsides of the industry. We were trying to break in, but hadn't, but we were at least like kind of understood the business a little bit I feel like yours was one of the first pathways to this career that came through social media or came through Twitter maybe. L that idea that that handle, that your stuff that went from like Paul saying, a Twitter feed to a book to then a sitcom Like that that was incredible to watch because at the time, I felt like stuff just didn't work that way You know? Absolutely. And what's so kind of fascinating is like yes, your Twitter blew up. The book is number one for eleven weeks on the New York Times bestseller list, which is Mind boggling as well. like that's huge and this is coming from another New York Times bestseller. I mean, this is it, right. This is it. I feel very I feel really embarrassed to be honest. you get one out there. Yeah, it was it was pretty crazy because when it initially happened the I when the Twitter fe took off One of the ad replies was a book agent and he was like, contact me. And I contacted him and he was like, here's what we do. We make a funny wall calendar, and it's got all your dad's tweets in it And I was like, okay, but also little like I could write some says in it that are like a memoir. and he was like, yeah, sure you can, bud he's like he's like, just just do the funny w wall calendar. And I was like, well, hold on. canan I at least like Can I send you a couple sample essays of like what this would be like? And then I sent it to him, and he was like, Okay And then I love that you still went with him. You still were like this guy believes in me. You know why I did because I was like, he's right. The hardartest decision is to make this wall coulenar. Like who the f am I? Like you know, like I was betting on myself, but I didn't want to go with any agent that would also bet on me. I mean, like like how many people are currently in twenty twenty six now being told the next move calendar You gota on the next season of Harley Quinn or for your book promotion coming up, we gota get a calendar up. They were huge in two thousand nine. Now I will say this just because I do I always found it interesting because you are a writer. You aret just some person internet who started doing this it was like a funny thing, but you understood what you were making, obviously, you wrote these great essays. But then when it comes time to make the show you're involved, but it's not like your show technically, right? Or at this point or it's like kind of like you're like and that's I just think that's a fascinating thing for people who may or may not know how this kind of stuff works. Yeah. so we we took it was after the book proposal kind of went out. We started getting these incoming calls and we went to we pitched it around a couple places And we went to Warner Brothers and they were like, we love this and they're like, you guys know you don't know what the fuck you're doing, right? And we were like, yes, we know. Like we under we totally understand that. And they're like, go get good,, get, get. And so they're like they're like, you can be a part of it, but you're not going it's not going to be your show. And thankfully because I also was like, yeah, it shouldn't be our show. L I don't know what, I don't know what I'm doing. It' be like somebody would be like, Ohh, you're gonna drive this trackor or It's like, I've never driven a track. I don't know do that U So we were we were on it and we were got to be on it. And the show was very bad. It was a it was a really bad show. William Shatner is bleep My dad says. It became bleep my dad says. Oh yes. it became Bleep my dad says. But the funniest part was so as it was my dad hated the show and he like and he would And what at one point he goes, he wass like, well, I was like, why is it so bad? And I was like, o, well, you know, I'm like trying to kind of explain to him why And and like he's like, but you're in the room. I'm like, yeah, I know I am in the room, but he's like, So what you're saying is it's It's like watching somebody fuck your life really bad And I was like, I don't think And I just got I just got ha and you're like, I wish I could put that on the show. I know. I was also like, I don't think it's like that. Why would the badly part matter? No, yeah, it would just be watching somebody fuck your wife like yeah Like But I guess if they did it well, you'd be proud of it. You'd be, hey, that's my wife. at least somebody's fuckking my wife really well Now I know that we'll talk about Abbott. We'll talk about this new book coming up, but I also just want to get into this into Harley because You did this, you made this great show. It's so funny and I feel like T work in the DC world at the point that you came in, which is like early twenty twenty How did you pull that off? Because This is like I feel like there's a lot of energy around like we don't do funny things. We got to keep the characters integrity going on, but how do you pitch a funny version of in the Batman world with all these characters. Yeah, notot only that, but like a hard R hardy show. like a show that is an incredibly funny joke dense sit animated sitcom, but that nonetheless still is like suffused with DC lore. You know what I mean? Like it's great. What a magic trick. Well, here's how it happened was basically we Warners had come to us and said, Hey, do you want to do an R rated animated Harley show? But they had no they had no idea what it would be And they didn't know how it work with DC. And so like as we were writing the scripts The first script, like the pilot People were getting kind of nervous because they were like, this is cra. like what is this thing you're making? and DC was getting nervous And then all of the head people at DC got fired like laid off. And so I remember a moment when we were like, who do we send the pilot script to is done And they were like, we don't know. We were like there was nobody in charge of that moment at DC And so it was literally just us and like a couple of Warner Brothers execives that we had known for a long time. who were kind of like I don't know, just like make what you want And it's the only time in my career that's ever happened and it was literally just because we were in between. they hadn't hired somebody new yet, but there was nobody old there either And we kind of just got to make this weird show that we loved Um And and I think the way we got, the only time DC ever like the there was one guy who's in charge of quality control at DC And he was just like, you can't have Batman go down on Catwoman. That was like his line He never would. I know he'd never do that But any other sex would be fine. It just it wasn't allowed to do that. That' we couldn't show that. couldn't show that. but like everything else they like let us do basically. And and the reason he said you couldn't do that is he's like we gott to sell toys. Yeah We can't you can't imagine one of these toys going down on someone. So it's like Yeah That's amazing that that is the only pushback the entire series has had. And you guys do so I mean, you have the episode that we just read, like you have ban fucking buildings and coming around' There's so much insane. seex stuff in the show. your Batman is a functional moron, which is absolutely hilarious. It is and like the all of the villain all of the petty soap opera nature of all the villains is all so fantastic. It's the best. I love that. Thank you. Yeah. It's really really good Um, now Obviously you go on to work with Quinta and Uh, and and I would argue one of the biggest comedies in the last ten years with Abbott Elementary and The thing that I'm so amazed at with you is that show is so incredibly funny. You have an amazing cast But you're knocking out ty two episodes a season and it's like and you don't ever look too stressed about it. I will say that. like you you retain a youthful nature, but I mean, that's that's like that's so many I mean how many episodes have you done now? Is always over one hundred, right? It's like ninety three. so hundred episodes Wow. how do you feel an episode like in the mid nineties now? like are like do people have to remind you know, we've done stuff like that or like is it do you have like a board of like Like I know they always suny They they have to have like somebody check all the episodes to make sure they have not done the same blots. Yeah, well there's like because I forget them like two minutes after we make them. right. So but there's there's two different there's a writer on the show who has like an encyclopedic knowledge of the show. and so we'll just kind of be like, Joyia, did we do this? And then she'll be like, yeah, we did this or no, we didn't do that. And then also sometimes it'll just be like a control F and we'll search for like a word to see if fit all the scripts if if we've done it. But yeah, it's been it's been really I mean the fun thing about doing twenty two is like you can do like a weird episode that has nothing to do with like the like overarching plot. Like you can do kind of fun stuff. I love the Abbott Elementary Elseworlds episodes where where they they operate out of time and space from the rest of the show Yes. Now now the question is the janitor or Mister Johnson, canan he go down on anybody? As long as we don't make toys and Mr. Johnson. I think one of the things that is so a fun like a side thing of Justin that is is fascining is When you play sports with him, tennis, pickleball, he's great. And it came out after I knew him for a while that Justin almost was a professional baseball player. You played baseball in college, you're an amazing pitcher. And you have this like kind of like hidden background of like before comedy writing, you were going into like that was kind of your career focus for a little bit Yeah, I mean, I want to I would never have made the Major Leagues. I thought I could, but in retrospect, I could not have But at the time, that was what I wanted to do and that's what I was doing in college. And then the third my third my junior year of college, I tore my UCL, which is like the ligament in your elbow that a lot of pitchers teer when they get Tommy John. but back in like two thousand one when I tore it. The surgery wasn't as good and you were kind of just like, I was never like a top prospect or anything like that. so So for a guy like me to tear it, that was kind of like the end of your career. You were telling me one time you went to some sort of baseball camp and you kind of almost realized too. you're like, oh, yeah, yeah no, this is not. I don't want to be doing this Yeah, well the fun thing about the thing people don't understand about baseball players is like it is the most dumb and MAGA group of people. Like I always joke that if the MLB didn't exist, there would have been enough people at january sixth to overthrow the government. because it's just like this group of just like meatheads that have just been like eating like beef and corn and like wherever they're from for a real long time And I don't know, I just felt like it was like something that It was that coupled with I'd go to these like showcases and I would like be pitching next to somebody in a bullpin. There's a guy named Mark Prier, whos a daughter's pitch coach, who was like the number one pick and we were pitching one time and bullpin next to each other our in our windups like lined up perfectly. And I hear his ball go like And then like a second later, it's like Like mine. Wow Oh, I'm not going to be a pro. This guy's way better than me. what I do love is this kind of all of this stuff kind of together forms your new book get lost. you go back to writing this is a this is if this is not these are not essays, these are. this is a full you've written a full mystery that kind of combines bad dads. Uh, baseball. comedy and then a really fun mystery. So getet Lost is this new mystery book that you wrote. What was behind that? likeike writing But yeah, just writing a mystery book Well, yeah, it was it was funny because I had seen an article a while back that in this like small bar in central California, that was like literally like the whole bar was like fifteen hundred square feet. It was like a tiny diet bar U this guy had walked in the bar And then there was only one entrance and one exit in the back and there was cameras on both sides. This guy walked into the bar and then never walked out and no one ever found his body. And he was never found again. So I was like, oh wow, this like lock box mystery and I got kind of interested in that idea. And then I started thinking about like, you know, I it's all about the characters and I started thinking about these ideas of like parental figures and baseball and like and also this idea of sometimes like, you know, we all have sort of somebody in our life that like Everybody loves, but the people who know that person the best are like, well, that person's kind of a piece of shit. And I was like, what would that be like to be like the child of someone that like every it's a vuncular and everybody loves that person, but you know that that person is actually a really bad parent And so I sort of kind of messed around with these characters and put in in this like mystery box and tried to kind of make something fun, write something fun. You did. I read it. It's great. and I feel like I hate cararing things, but if you like stuff like Carl Hyason or Elmore Leonard. it feels like that. It's very, very funny It's got this like great page turning energy to it and it just keeps you guessing the whole way through. And I love the conceit of this which is like you have this dad who is this kind of asshole, but like a lovable asshole, partnered up with his daughter to figure out where her mom, his ex wife has gone because there is she has disappeared. And it was, you know, like it's always not nerve wracking, but When when someone asks you read a book, you're, okay I hope I like, you know, like, I'm going to like it. I'm already in, but I just Regardless of you writing it, it was such a fun read and it has that kind of that energy of those books that I really love that I feel like I don't I feel like we're also like wonderfully returning to like those kind of stories. Yeah. you know, like I feel like we're getting back into and maybe it's just our generation is now, you know, populating our stuff with with detective stories and with mysteries in a way that kind of fell off for a little while because I've been loving seeing so much of it populating TV shows again. There's a lot of PI stuff. But like this is like to me sounds so funny because I love a I know this isn't like a lone wolf and cub type of, but a Father daughter, like it makes me think of nice guys or something like that, you know? Yes. Like that's the the shhane bllack kind of vibe of Dad and daughter who's trying to keep him on track is pretty terrific No, it's funny you bring that because when I was writing it, anyt timee I would get stuck and I would just feel like I have a bit of writer's block. I put on nice guys. and I would just watch it. and I probably watched it like six or seven times over the course of writing the book to just be like, oh, right, it's about these characters. It's about the banter between them. It's about this relationship You know, and I think that that Shane Black stuff, it's like he does that so well. He understands why you're watching the movie and what you want to see. Well and you care so much about those relationships, you don't just what he does so well is make you care about those people at the center of it and their relationship to each other, not just like, oh, how are they going to get out of this one? or don't know. it's really like, oh, it's character development inside of a forward moving, you know, dangerous crime plot. I love Shane Black. and and I've heard some rumor that there is a lot of forward momentum right now on nice guys too Oh what should would be Grosom. I think it's all about getting Ryan Gosling to just agree to do another one, but I think they all really want to do another one because U No, it's such a What it's like one of the great comfort watches. that and kiss kiss Bang Bang are like I've watched them dozens of times. They're so good. I think I get tell the story on air. It's only puts people in good light I got to watch a screening of something and it was for me and Shane Back And u and and at the end the creator was like, Ohh, do you have any you have any notes and The way Shang Black gave notes to me was like Colombo at the end of at the end of a Colombo episode. He's like one foot out the door and go, o, and by the way And then would like lay up thing and then like, okay, I gotta go, I really gotta go and then lean back in And it was so great to like listen to him Just kind of think about Uh, you know, just attention and storytelling. He was already what we watched was great. So it was just really like, u just like little finesing touches and he's so kind of dialed into it, but the image of him literally like standing in a doorway for over forty five minutes. likeike I'm going I'm walking out. I'm walking out. and no one was like pulling him back in. He was pulling himself back in. So it was a great it was just everything that I wanted from Shane Black. and I love that. And not wanting to say too much around it because I was like I just is so nervous and in awe of him. So the book is coming out, you could preorder it now. And by the way, if you don't know anything about book sales, it's very important to preorder. So as you're hearing this, you know Just get it, get it now. it's a great summer read, but it's a great anytim read. I think the mystery plays great and then to your point, like it I think you have a very clear voice. It doesn't feel like it's copying anything. It just feels like you got this character. I love I love this dad And I love the daughter. and the fun thing about the daughter is she's not just A straight man to the dad. Do you have this, Justin? Do you feel like this is set up for as a series? Like do you see this as like a series of books for these two characters or do you feel like this is a one and done You know, I've thought about it. I'm not quite sure. I think like if I thought that if I think that there's sort of more character development to do like to see because really this is about just like the book gets to a place where, you know, I think it leaves it at the end a little open ended in terms of their relationship. And so I think it could. I think it kind of depends on like, oh, if I have that story that I really want to tell with these two people I mean, I'm sure it's the same as you guys. It's like you'reking on something and sometimes you're like, oh, I feel like there's more meat on this bone or you're like, you know what? this perfect complete story that I wanted to tell I told it and I'm done with it. And it's It's you kind of have to feel it out. Yeah. Justin, you you're going into also developing your other you've written more books than just shit my dad says. You wrote this book called I suck a Girls, which I also read and I talk about this chapter all the time where you worked at Hooters You worked at a Hooters in San Diego. And that just seems like like like such a funny dumb place to work but you were kind of working at the height of Hooter or is it hes Yeah. It was the height of Hooters. It was one of the grossest places I was a cook there and I was nineteen. I can briefly tell you this one story about why you should never go eer to hooters on It's just in a disgusting place and I remember like to the extent that one time I was like in our freezer broke in the middle of the night. so there was like By the time we came in, there was like seven hours where the food had just sort of like defrosted the fridge and the freezer. So I'm like taking out these wings and they're like They smell terrible. Like and they look bad and I was just gonna I was about to throw them in the trash and my manager was like, whoa, what are you doing, bud? And I was like, these are bed and he's like, nowah, let me show you a trick And he like gets this big like paint bucket And he dumps the wings in and then he pours he fills it with water. So the wings are now like floating in this water. And then he takes a capful of bleach And he pours it into he pours it into the thing and then he gets a spoon and he stirs it around like he's like big a witch's brew. and he's like The bleach kills the germs, Fyer's gonna kill everything else. And it's like that so nast. Yeah. it was vile. It was vile. And like the funniest part about it was This hooters it was it was there for the the grand opening of it And so it hadn't been opened yet. So a bunch of people, it was in San Diego, a bunch of people applied and many of them were like not English speakers who weren't from the country to be cooks. and they didn't know what Hooters was. And so then we go to our first date orientation after we've all been hired and me and like all these other cooks walk in and they werere like, what the fuck kind of restaurant pitresses and stuff there too. Yeah.' so funny. Disgusting place. I had a very uncomfortable experience, which was, you know, sometimes you're shooting different things in different places and Inevitably, you get out late from shooting and you're like, I just want to eat something and places are closed And I forget where I was. and I looked on Yelp and it was like the only place open was this one spot. And it was like look like just like a regular bar, an Irish bar And it was a tilted kilt. sureure. I'll go there And tilted kilt is like just another another one of them. And I went in there alone like late night on a Tuesday and I and I I needed to be like, Oh, I don't, I didn't know that I'm like and it's uncomfortable because it's like it's Nothing like eating alone at at a a sex forward restaurant I don't know. it's like it's a very od it's an odd choice. It's an odd choice I think those might that category might be called restaurants. Oh, I think And I'm being sincere. you right. I don't think I I'm not trying to coaim that because there's the other one that's called Twin Peaks, I believe. Oh my gosh, it's so funny. There's so many of them. It It's such an odd odd thing. and that the attraction of the the Chesty wight staff works in direct opposition to the bleach filled food. You know People are like, it is worth it. It is worth it to get that to eat a little bleach. Oh just a little. And by the way, the fyire will kill it all Justin, get lost get it now. What J just real quick before you go, what are like some things that you you turn me onto the animated Predator show? Are there anything anythingthing else you've been watching that you've liked or you've been into shows and movies? anything Y U I just watched the Dark Wizard documentary on HBO Max. you guys watch that? No.. Oh, it's about this u This like rock climbing base jumper. Oh yeah. Yeah, yeah And didid you watch it, Jason? No, but I heard a NPR story about it It's interesting. It's like it starts out as this like, oh, it's a documentary about an extreme athlete. And then it kind of just really gets into like deons that these guys battle and why they get into it and it's only four episodes and like by the end of it, it like really emotionally just like gut punched me in a great way. was really Yeah. So I was you it's in that same I feel like category as free solo, but but more so than free Solo even Did you watch the one called The Alpinist I did. Yeahah. it felt like it reminded me of that when they were talking about it on the radio. Yeah, it totally, it is there's similar kinds of documentaries. just in those types of personalities. You know what I mean? what they're what they're talking about, notot in terms of the documentaries themselves, but these these people that they're trying to figure out who are very difficult to figure out people And they don't want you to figure them out. What's so kind of interesting about it like Well, that was the thing about the alpinist is that he stops showing up for his interview. He stops in the middle of it, he stops participating in the documentary. It's really interesting. They like couldn't find him anywhere. Yeah By the way, I just watched this weekend the Lauren Michaels documentary. Lauren. How was that?' Penomenal. And I think the thing that is so interesting about it to your point about not wanting to be in it. He obviously agreed to be in a documentary about him. He is not comfortable with it. You see him not being comfortable with it. He won't wear a microphone at certain points. So they just have like shots of him talking. You can't hear what he's saying because they're kind of kept away There are these like beautiful little set moments where like he's at dinner with Steve Martin and they're just chatting about something But he's very aware of the camera. And I think that they get embedded with him enough that all of a sudden and I've read a lot in the last year or so, you know, I read I read the original SNL book, I read the new SNL book. And I've like seen documenties on Laura Michaels This is, I think the best one. And what I realized is like, oh, Morgan Neville is like a real deal Oh yeah, guuy like he like I think that documentaries have been like diluted to a certain degree where it's just like ab because they're all like the person being profiled is an executive producer and is participating and ye everything feels very safe and very like PR coached, you know. Yeah, and he just really, it's he did an amazing job. The funniest part of this was like, I was doing a book signing of my book at the at the at LAX, I like set up in one of the bookstores over there. and he approached me to he's like, He,m I'm a documentary filmmaker. I made this thing. and I was like, oh my gosh, I'm a fan And he was like, Yeah, I'm doing a thing on Laure Michaels, wouldould you ever want to talk about? I was like, no, never. I would never want. I was like I just say I was like, I have a, I have no insight and I would be I, you know, I said, I would feel like the wrath of it. Little did I realize that he was making this definitive documentary, which I would have nothing to add to it But but funny though. I thought it was like, but the it's just really well done. I'm I was really efinitely why. Yeah, it's cool to capture someone who doesn't want to be captured. Like there are moments where you could they put it in the duck where he's walking away from like he's walking away from the camera. you see him like glance at it and it's like, whoop, and you turns out of the shot Yeah, it's really really, really well done. Justin, just because we're promoting your book here amongst other things, but Are there any authors ores that you want to shut out that are that inform that kind of detective crime, that world. I know Paul mentioned Carl Hyison earlier. I don't know if that's big for you. Any of that stuff that you want to shout out? Yeah, I mean, I love Carl Hyason and Elmore Leonard. I mean, I also read a bunch of Elmore Leonard before and end during this and try to like read enough that I was inspired, but not so much that I start like unknowingly aping what what he's done which is incredible and I could never even tape that if I tried anyway. Definitely those. I actually just read a book that I think you guys would really like. It's called Angel Down It's by this guy Daniel Kraus. I think he writes movies too. I think he writes them with Diler Del Toro, I think he's written some stuff, but it's basically this this book about World War I, these there's these guys in this little group are these soldiers in a little group hear some kind of like screaming out in the battlefield and they're being told by the superior. you have to go and just put this person out of their misery, justust go up and shoot them because the screaming is like affecting the morale of the people in the face And so they go, this group of five go and they find this sort of like supernatural being making that screaming. And it's just about what it does to the five of them when they like encounter this being It's super cool. It I think it ended up on like a bunch of bestuff lists. Yeah, it's right now' it won the twenty twenty six Pulitzer Prize for fiction Oh wow. o cool. It's it' and they say it's a single unbroken sentence. like the whole novel is that is that? Yeah, wow, that's w. Uh And wait, it's called say what's the title again? Angel down. And is it part of the Gerard Butler Whitehouse downown? Angel has fallen? U Is it part of that series? Is it part of the third? Oh yeah, man. Deinly gonna to read it. Justin Alperurn, thank you so much for being here. Watch Aot Elementary, get get lost. And and who's reading your book, by the way, on audiobook. C you get anybody good to read Oh yeah I have no idea. Oh wow, I do not know Oh interesteresting. And that's always help the is the position still open so much. can do we can do one. Yeah. get it. I'd love to do an audition, a vocal audition right now. Paul, I mean, you obviously they would want you to read your book. I made it clear that I should not read my own book. This is terrible and I don't want to hear it for that So I was just like go get whoever you're gonna to go get I remember when I was recording my book, the person who's recording me, they were amazing team. And they were like, Ohh yeah, we just had we just did Stephvenen Cobert and it's, did he just write a book?ike No, no, he was reading the pope's book So it was like Stephen Colbert so funy. L L that's the pope's voice is Stehen Cbert. And that was the old pope. That wasn't even the That wasn't even the Chicago one. Yeah, yeah, the old pope. I thought you meant the American pope. No, it was American cabinet. No it was just like a funny thing. It was like Yeah, the pope was like, that's Steven Colbert. Now he he'll do it. He'll knock it out Heavy big shoes to fil. Anyway, thank you so much Justin. Thank you again to Justin. That was a great chat