Behind the Scenes with Steven Glickman

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They call me when they're badass and he's on the line Cranking A nyways cause they cool as ice Cause the bag chip fun ofny looking kind night All is your Jason is getting laid Tool is making sure all the monkey shots in the made And that's a bunch of movies while they make it in the grade It's a real question for you how to skip hello people of Earth and welcome to How Did This Get Made? I'm your host, Paul Shear, aka Tall John, and today we are talking about Love on a Leash, a story about a cursed prince, or maybe just a human, who is a playboy who becomes a dog in another life, in another country, not quite sure, and has to fall in love with a woman so he become a man, but then when he becomes a man, he can only become a man for part of the day. And that really is just the tip of the iceberg on this little indie that you can find for free on YouTube . This movie has uh really no stats that we can find. I don't think it was ever released, and uh no sound either for the first two minutes, which was quite unnerving. Now, tonight we are going to be breaking down this movie with my two co-hosts, but we also have a very special guest to join them. But first, let me introduce to you Mr. Jason Manzucas Bo om. Yes. What's up, jer ks ? Uh, you know what, and we're so excited to have you talking because I know you love dogs. Oh I know this movie. Paul must love dogs. Uh first of all, must love dogs. Second of all, this movie gave me a full nervous breakdown. This movie reduced me to insanity in a hotel room. Can't wait to talk about it. Oh, I can't wait to talk to you about it, and we can't talk about this movie without another person who loves dogs just as much as Jason and I. Her name is June Diane Rayfield. June, welcome. Hi. Hello, hello, hello . Jason, Paul. You know, I know we've been doing this podcast for some time, but today I feel brand new. I feel like we've never done the show before because this movie I truly believe was a like the There are moments in this podcast, and I've said it before, but it it keeps on happening where I go, I didn't think we could top where we've been. I had the same thought. I didn't think it. I didn't think it. Eleven years in. Eleven years . Eleven years in And we can define a still surprise ourselves. Not just surprise, but but have my mind scrambled like an egg that I'm allergic to. We are we are like the like the like the Lewis and Clark of of Bad Movies. It's the new frontier. When we see it like, oh my gosh, there's more more here? Wow. Uh yeah. June, I want to say not only is this a great movie about dogs, which I know you love, but it's a great movie about wigs . I I want to save this discussion from earmark about 45 minutes to one hour to talk about our lead's hair, but I would I don't even want to touch this with a 10-foot pole until our guest comes out. I don't table it. I am so excited because she's broadcasting from a Commodore 64 that is not working. She has complained in the past. I hate when I come on this show and you give me these movies with trash can fires. So we tried our best to find a movie with no trash can fires, but I would uh say the movie is an equivalent of that. Please welcome the amazing, the talented, the uh host of deep Dive with June Diane Rayfield. Uh, one of the stars of Station 5 on HBO, Jessica St. Clair. Hello, friends. There she is. Hello. Yes. Hello. No, we didn't even see it. Fame it out, please. And you're well you're welcome. Uh no trash can fires in this in this movie. I would gladly take one billion trash can fires over watching this terrifying movie. And you know, Paul, because the last time you had me on your dumbass show with Hubel, you showed me all the villains, all the scariest pin pinwheels and pennywise and pinhead yeah this movie scared me more and I mean that than all of those movies. Wow all right I understand that I understand that. Because these were adult, real adult people. People. Filming. Let's say that again. This movie is comprised of real adult people. This was no CG I. Okay. No CGI. It was a uh not animated. The the it was a octogen arian first-time director uh of this film. Yeah. Yes. So this is I was under the impression that Dog had done the film. No, uh Fen Ten uh did the film. She is an Octetonarian. Uh yeah. But I will say this. And this is the thing that I felt I was not prepared for and Molly prepared me for it, which is the first two minutes of the film have no sound . No sound. No music. Yep. No sound. That's it. And that is truly one of the most horrifying experiences I have ever had because it puts you in a panic mode. It's like, okay, is something wrong with my TV? Did they not know this? And it's not a good one not tell them this a move is it a movie Paul when you texted me you said I said where do I find this piece of shit because you can't e I was like it's not on any streaming platforms and you wrote you know you've here's the YouTube link and don't I said it's a choice because look, they had ample . was Itn't like we were watching a rough cut. It wasn't like it was, you know, premiering at Sundance and there was some sort of issue in the projection booth. This was somebody put a stamp that this is ready to be released to the public. And that made me uncomfortable on so many levels. Like in all the moments of silence because the movie is not and I want to be clear, not just the first two minutes, but throughout the movie, all establishing shots. There are shots where you can see actors' mouths moving, but there is no sound. My uh mind was trying to rationalize it and say, here's where score was supposed to be and is missing? I thought this was the dog's mind. We were inside the whole movie? No, this is it's I thought just sometimes when you would cut out, I thought maybe this is the dog's perspective. But the dog has ears, that doesn't make any sense. And you know, I have to say I think, you know, Paul is running the tech on this live stream. Like I do feel like Paul's tech work is going to be far more advanced on this live stream than the mixing and the you know color correcting. I mean, well I guess we'll talk about the color green at one point. It's the first time that I've ever seen June. Do you think we'll talk about the color green? June? What the fuck was that about? Every character was monochromatic. Every single character was defined. There's a moment in the movie where the movie jumps 30 years into the future. Everyone is still wearing monochromatic outfits. And let me just tell you, so I have a lime green dress and I almost wore it tonight. Oh, that would have been great. That would have been great. I almost wore it tonight. But I was actually like so sickened by the color. I was so sickened by the color from last night. And I want to really talk about that mesh hanging thing. That 's very setting. Okay, there's two. Also, what is that? I thought that was like a cat carrier, like a thing like cat storage. I think it's storage of some sort. Jason. Why? No. No? So you're saying you just put your hand in and grab it. You're like, oh, you look at it's right near the door. So you walk in, you put your wallet and your keys in one hole, your phone in another hole. I don't know, guys. But one is so high up that you couldn't even get to. Guys, was this apartment one of the actors apartment? And that's what they're living in because I don't think they would have had the budget to paint that. I feel like somebody and that's is what I mean about real adult people. Somebody lived in painted it just because the green is so I think they worked backwards. I think they worked backwards from the apartment. I really do. This is a location speci fic movie. Do you think though the green was about the jade because Jade comes into play at one point. They go on an excursion to the Jade Museum where we just go to a jade museum for a second and then never refer to it again. But I think there's something about the luck of Jade. Like Jade is a lucky color. I felt like, now it forgive me if you guys didn't agree, but Paul, and I don't know what pictures or stills you have. Yeah. Can anybody tell me what was the shape of her bed. A heart shape. I thought it was a leaf. And I thought it was green. Like green was meant to be life and uh like a tree. Like it seemed to me like this was like a leaf of some sort. But maybe you're right and it's a heart and I'm just wrong. enough like a um like a heart. And what was so fascinating to me about this bed choice is she's set up as like a super kind of frigid , doesn't you know, when she has her first sex scene with the dog , um she her A line that has never been uttered in this podcast eleven years probably never will again. Listen, it got me thinking, and I do want to open this up for discussion to my dear friends who are on the on the show with us, but it did get me thinking like if my dog was a man, would I have sex with him? No . And I think I do think with meatball the answer is no. But I do think there are certain dogs . No, let me ask you But I daddy are dogs that are handsome. Now let me ask you this. Wait a second. I've got a real question. Yes. Because my real question is , if Meatball turned into a man forever, could you love that man? But if he turned back and forth every night, so part of the time you were spending with him, he was still a dog. I get it, this is the frog prince. But you kiss a frog, you turn it off. Yes. All day long you're picking up his shit and then he turns into a guy, but only at night? That that would be that would really mess with my mind. Well, in some ways, I feel like this woman has so many good choices presented to her. Like I'm sorry, but even like the option that Kyle gives her, knowing what we do about what how her life ends up, which is that she spends honestly the bulk of her childbearing years, the bulk of her life waiting for this man to come back as a man and not be a dog anymore. Like she should have taken the Kyle deal. And I guess we'll get into Kyle now, but when he offers her a lifetime of basically just being a beard and like she should have taken that and then waited. You know, and even having Prince as a dog during the day and a man at night, given the personality of who Prince is as a man, I don't think it's a terrible situation for her. Oh , I don't understand. I could make that work. I could make it work. I could do it. I could make it work. Well, of course, but I mean you could make it work. You could make it work. You could make it work and and why not? You know, which is one of my favorite of all time movies that we've never done, which is Rutker Hauer is a is a is a wolf at night while Michelle Pfeiffer is Michelle Pfeiffer and Michelle Pfeiffer is a hawk during the day while Rutgers Rucker Hower. The difference, Jason, is like everybody needs and should have a dog, as far as I'm concerned. Got it. Yes, of course. Okay, so like there are needs being met by both the dog version of Prince and the man version of Prince. Also, just remember, Ina Garden, Jeffrey, he's away from Monday to Thursday. That works out great. And she's got a roast chicken for him on Friday. That's right. Wait, there's husband relationships. She has a husband. They're the yes, hashtag rel she he they're everybody's relationship goals and he's not there ever. Today's podcast is brought to you by our friends over at Squarespace. 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I want to walk it back a couple steps because for those of you who have not seen the movie, first of all, do yourselves a favor and watch it because we all need to know where the brink of sanity is. But I will say this. First of all, jade is an important color uh for the director's culture. It is promoting uh it wards off bad luck and it promotes good fortune. So that was the idea. So all those choices, the apartment, the outfits, all intentional. Now, okay, this movie does start off, like we said, with no music and never finds music. Ever, which is also like underscoring, instrumental, nothing. Except for the songs that the dog makes up. I'm a dog driving in a car. Okay This is the kind this is a good thing. That kind sounds honestly, Jason, those are the kind of movies you come up with. Those are I could have. When you drive with Jason, those are the kind of songs he sings. These uh the it's exact ly like improv songs. Yes. When you make up songs that are just it felt to me like whoever's doing that bit is watching the movie and just singing what they're seeing. Oh, by the way, that uh the the person who played the dog is uh Stephen Kramer Glickman and he is a improviser and a comedian. Uh and we'll get into how he got involved with this, but I I believe very much uh they just turned a mic on and let him go. Caught that magic. But it's not the same actor as the actor? You didn't know that, Jason? Jason. They have completely different voices and personalities. I'm gonna be honest, guys. I didn't chase it. I pa didyn't enough attention. ack, Jason is a dress. The man who voiced the dog was like a completely different voice. And not only that, but personality. But that's what I don't understand. Isn't it the same person? Isn't it the same person allegedly? But yes, but the personality of the dog was completely different than the personality of the man. The dog hated this woman and was using her. A pizza face cement block. A cinder block, yeah. Cinder block. And and and the the prince was a sweet uh gentle man who I wanted to have a foreign accent, but he didn't. Or maybe he hit it well. But I feel like he looked not as even I just feel like he was a little more dull than the dog. The dog was real cutting, like very Rodney Dangerfield kind of material. The dog is a douche, right? The dog's personality is like a do like a p like it i but I think they were trying to go off of he had been a playboy or whatever the guy says. He had been a a playboy and he had been punished so that the dog was trying to embody that kind of like what he he's just like crass and crude, and he's like, girls, girls, we were all the girls. Here's a girl, there's a girl, doodly-doo. You know, and like that's the kind of stuff that happens in the movie. But here okay, but here's my problem. First of all, like Lisa , Lisa is no prize. Okay. Okay , they did her dirty though, because Lisa was wearing a haircut. Now, I think we realized later on that they put extensions in. They made her cut a bob and then they put extensions in. Those were not extensions, June. That was like a clip-in piece. Okay. It was clip in. Yes, but it was their hair that they put in to make her hair look longer so they could to do that time jump, I guess. But I'm like, it if someone walked down the street with that haircut , I would they were mentally unwell . Wow. I would ask them what they needed and if I could help. No, no. Because it was she looked so deranged. And then what was really upsetting is when she cut it off and got the bob, and we've cut Even her bob had crazy layers like we couldn't get away from the crazy layers I did see . Now I thought her hair did a a giant upgrade in the time lapse. Uh and I feel like the dog, I think the dog kind of made her a little bit more like she was a little more dowdy. Like we meet her, and she is completely, she's a virgin who wants to find true love and is immediately pulled into these very bizarre relationships. I mean, she's pulled into two relationships that Three three because of the creepy box. Or dogs and or dogs see in Lisa? Well they're not they're no am I what am I missing? Well d I mean come on, none of these guys I mean everybody is what about Kyle gay? You're so obsessed with Kyle. I love Kyle. Is like her best friend's like, go out with Kyle, he's rich, you'll go to Paris. And she's like , okay. And she didn't like Kyle for Kyle. She said, Oh, he's like an uncle. Like, I didn't even feel like they got along. But then when like when Kyle does a scene, can I play the scene where Kyle confesses that he's please? Here we go. This is uh this is Kyle uh confessing to him that uh you know here we go. Will you marry me? No, don't don't get me wrong. It would be in name only. Name only . After we're married, you'll still be free. You can date anyone you want. I I I mean, you can sleep with anyone you like. No . What I'm I I don't mean to be rude, but hair is layers. Layers so bad. No God I saw it. That painting we need to discuss as well. Oh yes. I'm not attracted to any woman . All my relationships are with men. Kyle is the best actor in this movie. Oh yeah. He's amazing. Kyle's killing it. And they worked it out. And he did a great fucking job. And he did a great job with taking it moment to moment. He's right there with the work. Right there with us. And you could argue Kyle has the most interesting emotional arc. Yes, yes. And by the way, you could also, just so the audience knows, Kyle leaves about at moment 12 and we never see him again. None of the creeps. By the way, the whole first act is Kyle, Mark, and Frank, like the three creeps. Like it's like the creep parade. Yeah, like creep parade. And then they all disappear because she falls in love with a dog. Who is also a creep? Because by the way, the dog to go. The dog is a creep too. Oh, the dog is a fucking creep from from minute one. From the first from minute one. The dog is a girls. Girls gotta find girls. And a and a guy comes up and starts cutting him and goes, pay, I'm not gay. And it's like Right out of the pain right now. The dog is a homophobic douchebag. Homophobic pedogenic douchebag. The dog is he 's a sexual predator. Is there such a thing as toxic it's it's toxic canine canine can ininity. Canine ity? Yeah. Toxic canininity. Yes, and I do think our dog meatball, I've said this to you, Jessica, is absolutely, you know, misogynist and very toxic in his own right. A staunch defense. Well he's a conservative. He's a conservative. We're as red as they can. Your dog no offense, but your dog texts me a lot of MAGA stuff. Oh, he's full cue. By the way, where was he? Where was he on January 6th? We didn't see him yet. I am too scared to ask. We like he we thought he was with a walker, but he didn't come home for a couple days. It was weird. It was very weird. So I do like he came home with a bunch of Nancy Pelosi's paperwork. I don't know. I kept it just for you know because I just am a fan, but I kept yeah, it is it it it was odd. Yeah, so I do understand like what I was upset about to see a g was to see a golden retriever represented that way. Because to me that's just that . They're childlike, that's joyful. Yeah, there's not a bad bone. You never meet a a golden retriever or a lab that's a dick. No. You just don't. Well, I mean, I expect that behavior from him. You know, and that's his his name is Prince, right? Uh and I I don't know if he was a Prince who was a playboy or just she named him Prince, whatever the case may be. This is just because of the princess and the frog, right? That that's that's what this is because And I thought we were talking beauty and the beast. You're right, it is beauty and the beast, but the without the I mean the the dog frog is uh I mean we don't get any tongue kissing of a dog and our lead actress. We almost up. Remember when she wakes up with him with the dog in the bed? That's actually the most disturbing cut. I found this movie to be like how do I say it? Uh incredibly sexual. Like it felt very horny. Yes. Like and the dog is like in a terrible way. Like in a terrible way. No, like you were watching like a tape of a voyeur who was taping passionate. I don't know why. Like it's surveillance footage. Well, it's like all of the beats the whole movie is going. You wanna fuck a dog? Yes. You wanna fuck a dog? I feel see I disagree with you say Claire because I think the movie is this dog wants to fuck you? This dog wants to fuck you? Like because we're often inside the dog's head. We never have interiority for Lisa. We have interiority for the dog. And the dog's like, oh gimme, gimme, gimme a killing of fuck. What if like what if the what if the interior voice of Lisa was like Judy Tenuda, like ah men are pigs, like they bl their inner cells are just like these really aggressive voices? Okay, what I could n't understand is there is another actress in this movie who is giving us everything in then some. And her character's name is Paula. Paula. Best friend Paula. Rita. Rita as well is . Rita's incredible. But I'm like, why isn't Paula the lead? Like, I she's an arresting child. She looks great in gracious . She looks great in the house. I can't take my eyes off of her. And I'm forced to to follow Lisa the whole movie? Well yeah I mean but it also seems like I again like so upset. I feel like she the script did her dirty because they cre they made her a character they made her a character who not only has no agency, but everybody is telling her she's r you she's like not living life. And and the and so she's not, you know, she's yet she is this sexual object that every man the manager when the manager goes, Ooh, you got a spider on your back, he wants to get in there creepy. Have you girls ever had that happen to you? A guy come up to you and go, uh spider on your back? It's true. It's true. I have to say, I was very upset by Lisa's apartment and that mesh cat hang ing thing. But I was even more distressed by that clothing department store that Lisa worked in. Oh my God. And the highways and byways of that store, the aisles , the mannequins, every colors, I have a question about that. So Kyle, Kyle, who we all like the department store. Did he own it? He owned a few. He owned a few. That's too not sleep on Kyle and what Kyle has done in his life together. Okay, got it, got it. So but here's what I didn't understand about Kyle though is that I did not understand. In the very beginning we op,en up there's a woman who I think comes back later on as a animal agent. The dog who's another I'm so sorry, she's the owner. You're right. She's the dog who The dog talent owner. The dog talent. Well no no she I think that no no no I think that DTA DTA is . I know it was like Gersh or DTA and you went with DTA. That was surprising. DTA's got all the good leads. I will tell you this. I think that that actress was playing a high powered executive for dog food. Right. Who was like a very, a very unfortunate name dog food. Yes. I just want to say what was so interesting about Kyle and his department and honestly his philosophy on the brand stores and retail. Yeah, we are back to Kyle dress. Is that in the opening scene when we first meet Lisa, that dog food owner is trying on a dress. Same dress. Oh, right. Same dress. Same dress she ends up wearing. Yes. Lovely choice. Love to call it back. But what's so weird is that dress from my eye looks like it fits just fine. Now there's a salesman, I think it's the other guy that ends up. The creepy guy, the spider guy. Trying to assault her at one point. She tells you June. May I just interrupt you for one brief mo brief moment. When she's trying the dress on in the store and says it's too big and they have to squeeze it over her. There are two wet fart sounds inserted into the movie. That's the most score this movie has is two like raspberry wet farts. Like she fills her pants with liquid diarrhea. She dumps out in this movie. June is frozen in the best possible pose for me. As is Paul. Saint Clair, it's just you and me. Their Wi-Fi is done. We own this show! We got it! A dedicated mentor, an empowered parent, an effective after-school program, digital literacy tools that protect kids online . These are just some of the solutions to the youth mental health challenge. At the Coalition to Empower Our Future, we're bringing together experts in youth well-being to solve this complex challenge. Our mission? Keep kids happy and healthy. 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Let's get started at nm.com, the Northwestern Mutual Life Insurance Company, Milwaukee, Wisconsin. June, back in action. Wow, I you know, and back in action on a hot spot right now, on my phone's hotspot. Paul Shear not the couple I thought would have the tech issues. You know what? This is so surprising. And um I don't know what to do. Yeah, you do just because this is honestly this is like an act of God. This is the show. Just to go back, because the last thing the last thing I remember is is discussing the fart noises that were laid in . And it's like, I want to say it just reminded me, like you're so vulnerable as an actor. Like we do the work. Because that woman is fucking amazing. She did a scene. Yes, she did a scene later on with the dog agent. Paul, do you want to jump in my frame? Wait, you're on? Yeah, I'm on. I've been on, babe. Oh, wait, hold on, hold on. I'm on hot spot. I'm on hot spot. He's very upset. I'm so upset. I'm so upset for people I'm on hot spot. We're doing it. Well, what I was gonna say though is when I heard those fart noises, you know, it was such a reminder. Like as an actor, you show up, you're trying to do the best you can do. You know, that woman was making choices later on in that talent scene. She had a beautiful scene with that talent agent where she was hilarious on the steps and I thought . And then inside with the dog picking up the phones. You know a lavender phone. Everybody's got a lavender phone indigo, babe. Indigo Indigo. Sorry, sorry, sorry. Sorry. But I was like, shit, this woman is great. And by the way, that phone was not indigo. I actually more blue. It was lavender. Yes. It was way too purple we called him to go. But um I'm like, my God, as an actor, you know, you never know what they're gonna do in post to you in your performance. It's humiliating. This poor woman. This poor woman was fucking humiliated And for love on a leash? Yeah. It's like this isn't the the you know Fairley brothers. This is Love on a Leash. Like my question. Do you think do you think the movie was trying to insinuate that the dress was too tight, but for those two toots ? And once she once she once she got rid of hair, once she got rid of those two farts, the dress fit perfect. Oh god. The dress fit like a dream. So she's like, oh, it's too tight. She's like, oh, it fits good. I'm gonna go meet my husband. Okay, see I read it, I read it kind of a different way. We're or maybe we're saying the same thing, but just slightly different, which was that those the the tightness of the dress let out those two things. Yeah. As she was getting it over her buttons, kind of the same. Kind of the same. Six of one half dozen of another. It's like with Spanx, like the fat has to go somewhere at a certain And that's always that's always been my you know critique of spanks go But here's what I don't understand. Okay, going back to Kyle like to spend a little more time on Kyle. What is going back to What is going on, June? June, I have a real question for you, June. Have you been in touch with Kyle? No. Have you at all? No, but at one point I thought, did Kyle direct this movie? Because he his style of acting and his sort of you know vibe, I was like, I now once I found out he was gay in his character was gay and I was like, oh that's what sort of he was bringing this he was bringing a different texture to the movie, performance-wise. Oh yeah. Absolutely. And I didn't know what it was, but so at one point I thought he was the director . But Kyle, okay, Kyle's response. So what happens with that tight dress and those toots is that Lisa comes over cause this woman is being sold that dress and Lisa comes over and says, No, no, no, no, don't get this one. Get it to sell. Sell this to you. I can't sell this to you. I can't sell this to you. It's too tight. Yes. Right. And I'm a little bit like as a customer, you know, putting my customer, don't fucking tell me it's too tight. No, don't. I'll buy, I'll wear my clothes as tight as I want. Who the fuck are you? Oh god, where is this? Oh, look at this. I am on my phone right now because I've been trying to reset the internet. Uh so that's where I'm at. I don't know. Do we refund tickets? I mean what do we do? No, we're doing the show. We're here. We're gonna get it going. I take it back. I take it back. What are you doing? We should double price. This is a good thing. What about when the mom calls and she's in is dark wet? Like Norman Bates movie, whatever that was. Can you play that? Like play this moment because this is actually a great moment. We're gonna try to play clips now? What is gonna do get ready? There's no clips. There's no more clips, babe. Oh god . I got it. I got the whole thing. So dark. Terrifying . So what ? What I mean is Weird angle. You should date four or five guys at the same time. Scary. Not just Why ? What um how old is Lisa slash Paula because they seem to be peers? How old are they meant to be? Do you think? Yeah. Because they talk about their virginity, or at least Lisa's virginity. You know, there they seem to be horny like teenagers in a way. I mean, at least Paula is. You don't have a heart-shaped bed if you're a virgin. Unless it's a leaf-shaped bed . Oh if it's a leaf shaped or a shaped bed. Or a shaped bed, then you're absolutely a virgin. But if that's a heart-shaped kid. Because it's it's telling us the only man that she has had sex with is the dog. And that's a sentence that I would like to never say again. That's what the m that's what's dangerous about this movie. The movie really is it's uh it's very horny, even though Lisa herself isn't that horny. But then Lisa once her sex once her sexuality is unlocked by the dog, then she gets into it and she gets into it like she buys the dog a leash and it gets kind of kinky in a way because you're like, oh, is this gonna be their kink or is this just a leash for the dog that he is sometimes? This is also this is some nuts level stuff. Thank you, Molly. So they take okay, what's so amazing about this? Go back to that other picture, that first one. I had a question here. Who took are you gonna ask who took these photos? Thank you . Thank you . In the world of a movie. Because it's a photo. It's a photo. This isn't a um a live shot. This is these are photos. They see me. Well we know that because later on old Lisa is showing old Paula her scrapbook includes these It includes these pictures. It includes these pictures and then pages and pages of just pictures of the dog . What? What's happening? What is happening? Why is she in a veil? Why was she in a veil? A creepy wedding. Okay, so they thought this was their wedding night. That's what I want to know. They clearly get married. They get married. Well, they call each other husband and wife for They get married in their own way in an interspecies kind of ceremony, which I think this is. You know, um she's always in a kitten heel. Look at that. Every single character in a kitten heel. I oh man. So I can only imagine they set up a that shoe really upset me, actually. If we could just go back to that shoe, because that's not even a kitten heel. It's like a flip-flop with a flip heel with a heel. It's very upsetting. Are we meant to believe, and and this is not ageism, but that these this is the sexual fantasy of an eighty-year-old woman brought to screen. Wow. Like especially even that photo shoot. I think it is the s the the fantasy of like a riff on a a fairy tale kind of you know, the the the woe-begone princess who whose prince is missing and he's been cursed by a this and a that and sh the only only true love's kiss, blah blah blah. Yeah, I think it is. It's very but it is it's also super horny. Like uh like I think putting a leash on a man and making him eat from a dog bowl and stuff. I do think that we're seeing like a gram a granny's like what's making a granny hot. And that question is that maybe you want to fuck a dog. You think it's like a f oh, uh you wanna fuck a dog or or or do you you is it that wanna you wanna treat a man like he's a dog? Is it just it is just r it is just actually actualized as the dog? Yeah. Well, yes, I do think what we're we're talking with and what we're playing with I actually think I have to say quite honestly, I think there's a good movie in here . I think that there's like a romantic comedy in here that works quite well. It's oh Paul's back. I'm fully back. Now let me just tell you one thing. You missed the thing. They set up a camera on a timer to take those pictures of them. First shot in the montage, which I have uh right here. Explain it. Yeah, that's one thing that they really do explain, but it's in this one moment. They would go out of their way to explain that, but not all the other magic . I'm only I'm only angry, Paul, that you didn't rejoin the show from the sauna bed. Oh, yeah. I look, you know, I thought I could pull it out in that moment. I thought it could be now I do have a question about this though, this photo thing . Did they get married in that moment? They seem to We did discuss that. They seem to have because from then on they refer to each other as husband and wife repeatedly. Again, they did their own private ceremony. And you know, in a way I appreciate that about them. That they're like, we don't need the state involved. You know, we don't we don't need marrying a dog or is she marrying a man? Well, that's the thing is, they had to get married at night in those photos, so he's a man. But during the day is she at the park with the dog saying, This is my husband, Prince. But but yet he tells her sometimes I refer to meatball as my husband. Interesting. Interesting. You're halfway to Lisa. June, you're halfway to Lisa. But I will say that why is that a bad reaction to her? I saw myself. Yeah. When too close . Too close. When they did say like I'm gonna name you Prince, at no point did he go, no, actually my name is Alvin Fang, because that's what he did tell, like we hear the dog say, My name is Alvin Fang. Wait, what? The dog says his name is Alvin Fang? I'm so sorry. What? What are you talking about? I'm so happy that I got back in on this because I know a lot more. I don't how you're able to rejoin the show. I literally was damned. Should I switch to Wi-Fi? Because I'm paying for this hotspot, baby. Hotspot. You don't even understand. You're not paying for it. I do pay. I think you do pay for hotspots. But I want to tell you this. So when she's naming him, he goes, My name's not Prince, it's Alvin. Alvin Fang . Huh, then why doesn't he correct her when he becomes a man? I don't know. Well, I the whole time I was like, is when he's a human i a man, is he trying to fake it, like fake being a nice person? Because the moment he goes back to being a dog, he's like you know, no, he's learning. Same question. Jason, that's trying to but that's But but it it's complicated, right? Because well, because I really did want to know. I felt that he was falling for her. I felt that their love was real, and then every time he became a dog, I was like, Oh. Well, I have just found out I don't know what to believe. I've just found out that it's two different actors, right? So yeah, yeah. That was new for you. You didn't. So now that makes more sense because clearly the man acting, uh, the actor in the movie was performing the arc of you are a playboy who really falls in love and has a transformative experience through your relationship with Lisa. And the man voicing the dog was just riffing on dog misogynists. It was almost like uh he was mystery science theater three thousanding the movie. What did I say? Toxic caninity? K9 can ity? But by the way, uh, I maybe this is a good chance for me to just tease that we do have a video from uh Stephen Kramer Glickman, who played Alvin Fang, aka the dog in voiceover, and he will tell us how he got into this role and all the ins and outs and how he was paid and all of that. Uh, but I will say this : that dog um seemingly was truly earnest and loved her and wanted to provide for her and made that dog food come. He jumped through hoops. Not literally, he but he made it. Also calls her pizza face cinder block. Well, no, no. Oh, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. That's what I'm I thought that's what we're doing. The human. The human man. Sorry. They're all the dog. It's hard. The human man is a dog. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Hold on one second. The dog and the human are the same soul though. I don't think so. If there was a soul, perhaps. Okay. The dog and the human are the same entity. Yes. Yeah. So Paul, you're describing them like because I actually was like, I don't think this dog or human wants Prince or Alvin Fang. I don't think they actually want to pursue a career in entertainment to provide for Lisa. I think he wants to be a star. Okay, I don't think so. Oh wow. I don't think so because doesn't the Okay, hold on a second. Doesn't the magic water tell him that he's supposed to take care of her? Like demonstrate, demonstrate that you can take care of her and sacro and but before that, Jason, before way before that. Okay. He saw that business card. Oh, yes. For sure. Oh, from picking out the outfits and the talent agents buy it. The acting He didn't seem to want to go back to acting, but I will say at the end of the movie he gives her the money. Well, for him, it's not about the money. It's about like just the ego of being the gangster in front of the screen. Yeah. Should we should we see his I mean should we see his work as a dog actor? By the way, this dog actor is wonderful. Do you I mean but you have to ask yours I agree. You have to ask yourself, the dog didn't pursue this job. The dog doesn't know what it's doing. This poor dog is like this dog is like listen, Jason. I have lots of feelings on that. Dog didn't consent to be in this movie. You know? It's a b oh you're talking about dog when he got hit by a car. That was so upsetting. The only blooper that they show. They show bloopers at the end of this movie. Holy shit. They show a blooper of the moment Had a shot of that dog on the side of the road with a bloody head. Yeah. Yeah, I could have I couldn't. And then and then them trying to make the dog get in the pool. The dog doesn't want to get in the pool. Those are not bloopers. That is is that the take of bad training, right? Back to how to attract the opposite sex. Because did you think that Frank did a good job flirting by pretending he was married? Is that a good move? Frank pretended he was married? Oh, was that Frank? Yes. Frank comes in and says he's looking for something for his wife. Oh. And he's but he describes he says, he also, if I'm working in a retail establishment and someone comes up and says, Is your name Jason? I'm like, no. The answer is no. You should not know customer. You should not know my name. When I worked at the gap after high school, if somebody came in and said, Hey, are you Jason? I would have been like, nope. Uh my name's my name's Gary. See you later, weirdo. You should not know that. Totally. That's a good tip. I had no idea you worked at the gap, by the way. You worked at the gap during like reality bites time. That's what you need broffalo does in reality bites similar time. Yeah, at the Liberty Tree Mall. Have you s taken those folding skills and do you use them in your own life? Oh June, I did, and I do. He did. My packing cubes. My packing cubes. Yes, I use packing cubes. Flawlessly, you were gonna get to that. You did the you Jason used packing cubes before anybody knew about them. The Eagle Creek. I thought they just started making them. I just started I thought they were displayed. I don't get them. I wanna like them, but I don't get them. I'm I will give you a full blown uh walkthrough if you want. Listen, here's where they come in handy. They come in handy when you're putting together a pack and cube of socks and like underwear. Charge. Well let me just just riddle me this. You just take the cube and you put it right in the drawer. You don't need to unpack anything. It's already in How about this? You don't even have to take them out of the suitcase because they're puzzle pieced in perfectly. You just unzip them and you have access to everything that's right there in your suitcase. Oh, I don't want to let it be. I'm a big, I'm a big packing cube guy. Peak designs packing cubes. You crush it out there. By the way, I uh I also have bought them. I just haven't figured out how to use them. I watch the way that June uses them and I don't like it. No, no, no. You have to pack you have to fold your clothes to the shape of the cube. That's the deal. That's the deal. Okay, well now I will do 20 minutes just about packing cubes. I would take it all. That's my Patreon show. Honestly, I would pay to watch it. Honestly. It's called Zux Cubes. It's called Zooks Cubes, and here we go. We are talking about ads right now, so I think it's a good chance for us to watch uh the dog Prince's acting debut in a dog food commercial that he does behind the back of Lisa, and he's trying to hide it from Lisa, but it's a national commercial. You can't hide it from Lisa because she's always watching T V. So here we go. Look at that lower layer. It's so upsetting. So it did ups etting. China Girl Dark. Prince, is that you? It's time for you to know. Where are you going? I fight crime with ninjas. How you Ooh, I never I just noticed that lava lamp. A green a lime green lava lamp is in frame there. Yeah, green everywhere. But now all right, so it is China Girl. I realize I said there's no music in the movie. That I think is the only time we hear we hear music. It's just from the it's just from the commercial. Yeah, which is a isn't it a David Bowie song? Yeah. Yeah. And then how did they get the rights to that? They didn't. They didn't. I don't think this movie was released. Yes. Okay. All right. So they're not. Honestly, that might have been what shut down our internet . Might might have been. I have to say, if my and and Jessica, I'm sure I'm curious how you feel about this, but um if I felt like Meatball was having a good now, I did do one professional photo shoot with Meatball. With photos with Paul. Those photos will be released within the next few months, hopefully. Be in a calendar. Have we approved those photos? I will talk to you about that later. There's a few things happening there. But there are some photos that we took with Meatball. And I did feel like he had a great time. You know, and it was a That's always probably the great time. But I guess it I think if if my dog, if I if my dog was gonna make or if I was gonna make money from meatball being in a commercial and I felt like he was having an okay time and the hours were decent and nothing, you know, was gonna happen to him, I think I would put him in just because it would be fun. But it would be more equivalent of me doing a commercial. W uh uh how do you mean? Because it's not her dog, it's her husband . I'm okay with that. I know what you're saying. I guess I'm just wondering. I'm okay with you doing a commercial. I'm okay with everyone on this live stream doing a commercial . I guess I'm just trying to really think through would I be okay with meatball making money out in the world? I wouldn't want to rely. I understand. I'm just right now, Paul, I'm just talking about meatball. she If's upset because he lied to her , okay. Is that why she's upset? Well, it seems like a perfectly reasonable way for him to make money, and the only way he can make money. Agree. And she first accuses him of stealing. Remember when he heard that. That's right, because he has cash on him and he's purchased her address. She's now meanwhile that talent agent, we are to assume that that talent agent gave him a wad of hundred dollar bills in his mouth, in his collar, because remember he says he calls the guy and he says, uh, the dog will be there in the morning for the shoot. Just pay the d pay the dog. Give the money to the dog. Yes. Can you imagine that ex change? How does the dog fill out a W9? Like what's gonna happen? Also, by the way, the talent agent and the uh director of China Dog Food Com Company talked to him like, oh my god, thank God you're here. Okay, great. So here's the premise of it. Like they don't even treat him like a donk. A donk. Like a donk. And they don't even ask, like, where's your handler? You know. No, the one talent that he has seemingly has nothing to do with the what the commercial needs to be done, which is uh simply uh like the dog can pick out dresses. That's the dog's talent. Like it should have been like China doll outfit company or something like that. Yeah, I mean, yeah, so a hundred percent I'm just going with yeah. Guys, I I'm just going back to my notes. I'm going back to my notes, which I have again barely referenced so far. The night that they have sex for the first time. Okay? Mm-hmm. Yes. As it's fading out to their kind of sex sounds, all you hear is him saying , I'm sorry. Yes. I'm sorry. Yes. I forgot to get it. That is what I said to June. He goes, I'm sorry. Paul heard it. That was sorry. Is that because his dick is so big? His dog dick is so big. What? It was so close. It was was like like it this. I thought it was possible because he's a dog, his penis is too big, really big. Because dogs have big penis. I'm sorry. I don't know. I'm so sorry. I'm sor so ry . It was it was chilling. That moment was chilling. Because here is this it's like a fantasy fulfilled in a way, but the movie is telling us it 's not good. It's painful for her. For her. Does he have a dog dick? That's what I said. That he's got a big old dog dog. Wait a minute. A dog's dick is smaller than a male dick. What are you talking about? What's your dog feel, man? I saw your dog, Jess. That dog is not gonna I mean if not a male dog, keep speaking like he's got one of those big dog dicks. Oh, you know it. You know him. He's got one of those big old dog dicks. Big dog. Dogs don't have notoriously big dicks. That's not all. And I've only seen Meatball's dick like three times and I wanted to throw up every single time. If anything it would be like a you know, a tiny little like weird red pencil or whatever. It is a red lipstick every second. Yeah, should I pull an image of that up on the wondered if maybe in translation from beast to man something goes wrong. Or maybe again, like maybe we're we're meant to believe that he's the perfect man and that's and that's somebody who 's I think more than the size of his dick. I think that what was happening is that she is a virgin. That's why she was so giggly and so kind of like. I think you're right. Yeah, yeah. She was a virgin. That was it was painful. And that's what he was saying. I'm sorry. I think you're right. And that makes more sense. That didn't occur to me. I was more like, why would this be the sex talk that they're too that they're doing? But of course, that makes entirely uh all the sense in the world. Okay, it was very disturbing. It was like can I tell you I wanted to have sex though? I wanted Rita and the dog to have sex because I felt like Rita had this, and that was what I'm saying, this movie felt such a thing. You wanted Rita and Prince to have you wanted them to make out at one point. I did. Wait, Rita, can I ask you, how is Rita related to mom's family friend who runs? She's just like a gypsy family friendly. When she runs, I thought she was like a fortune teller and she was putting spells on men to like suck them in. Rita's one of those characters though. Like my mom had a lot of women in her life, specifically one that I remember. You know, when you're a part of a lot of different AA programs or or Al Anons or that sort of thing, you run into quite a cast of characters. And Rita to me, I saw a lot of Rita's in my childhood. Yeah. Rita to me was like, oh, it's one of your mom's friends who's too involved, who who doesn't have a family of her own that she has any connection to at this point. Like she's burned so many bridges. Well probably because she was a professional runner, right? And she was focused on track her investment in Lisa and Lisa's love life is so bizarre. She pays those men. She pays those men to come up and show interest in her. It's like a matchmaker. Which almost becomes like a gangbang on the dance floor. It's terrifying. Thousand percent. And it feels really scary. It feels like one of those things where Rita is trying to fulfill her own fantasy, but project it onto Lisa. It's a it's Absolutely. It's unasked for. Lisa is like, please stop. And Rita is like actually more. And but Rita is also like, don't fall in love with who you love. Fall in love with somebody that I set you up with because I know better than you. Because Rita is out to like unravel Prince. Like she is trying to uncover him as this other thing. Well, because also I think Rita's really listen, Lisa's mom doesn't want Lisa to make the same mistakes she made. Okay, well I mean that's I mean Lisa's dad not in the picture, not even referenced, right? Left her on not on the wedding day, which is what you hear about, you know, often left her on the day they were gonna get their marriage certificate. The paperwork was gonna go through. That's when he wasn't there. That's when he bounced. I will say one thing too, just going back to Lisa not being a good person. First of all, she agrees to this weird setup with Kyle where her friend's like, go and just buy dresses and go to Paris and all that sort of stuff. And then she takes the dog in multiple times in this movie. She's like, get out of here. Like go. Like she's just constantly. She seems to not want that dog. Like, that's what's so weird about the movie is that their meat cute dog prince and Lisa is so like we don't um for a second think that these two a this animal and person should be together. He doesn't help her really in any way. Like he's it's also not special. It's not special because he's trying to get with every girl in the park. Yes. He's trying to get with every girl in the park and and and he just like has enough interactions with Lisa that it ends up as her. Right. Well now by the way, let let's see them arguing in the park. Chop liver What is wrong with you? I'm in a bad mood. Don't make it worse. He's just sitting there. Why are you treating me like And if I saw that woman, I would think she was on a couple times I've been in a target and I've seen someone who's clearly on meth. That's what I would think. If I saw that woman talking to her dog going, what's wrong with you? I'm in a bad mood. I'd be like, that woman is is OD on that. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, Leo is in a toxic relationship with this dog. I think we should save a little bit of our conversation about the end couple of minutes uh for a few moments later. And let's go to some questions from the audience because I think they the same. Can I just mention one more thing still here? Very briefly. When the guy when he's when he's a man and he asks about the the the dog talent agent and Lisa kind of brushes him off, he rifles around in and finds her drawers a stack of business cards that is dozens thick. Where is who is giving Lisa all these business cards? Okay, all these. Then we cut to afterwards the the woman we mentioned who farts in the dress and the dog talent agent from DTA Dog Talent Agents and he's showing her headshots of dogs for the dog food commercial which are not headshots they are just photos. And she described one of the dogs as too ethnic. Why was it like what's happening? What's happening? That is what casting directors say about me. They don't say that about a dog . She says, Oh my , by the way, I just have a good slogan for DTA. You bark, we bite. That's good, babe. That's good. Are you trying? Wait, are you? You know it's not a real company? I'm just saying if you wanted to have a t-shirt the dog talent agent see uh swag shirt. You bark, we bite. Yeah like it's like you want somebody that to fight for you, you do your thing, we do our thing. Theroget we're a dog talent agent. Wait, can I just can I before we move on, there is one scene that I believe is actually the scariest of all because it feels like a scene from Handmaid's Tale, which I we'll never watch. Um when she goes when she has the sit-down with who who's which mother who is a gynecologist and a nutritionist. I have that scene. I have no idea what you're talking about right now. This is Frank's mom. Oh my grandson is only ten years old. This is terrifying. And we were very anxious to find a stepmother for him. I've heard that you love children. Yes, I do . This child has been raised using the latest scientific technology in nutrition, education, and psychology. Look how tired she is. He has an IQ with 170.. In a basement Wow, what a smart child. Of course. And to be certain that he grows up to become president of the United States, we must ask a specific request to any prospective stepmother . She cannot have any children of her own . No children? Yes . Furthermore , in order for her to not become pregnant, she must agree to have her tubes tied before the marriage . This could be like a blumhouse horror movie. That's a movie is Yes. That's like a that is like that could be like a limit like like when we did Ladybugs David Lynch. Like this you could do it with this scene. It only kind of works with this scene because this scene is so weird. No, the whole movie, the apartment, everything. This is one step away from an edgy A24, yeah, like indie film. It's super fucking weird and disturbing. And it's like you it is it truly is an unnerving film. I have to say, I give this movie a lot of credit for the surprises. Oh, that's that was a really big surprise for me. And that is a crazy wick. When a movie can give you this many surprises consistently throughout . Uh i there is they've done something right. That's right. A hundred percent. Okay, I just want to alert everyone that I got a message on my computer asking me to disconnect from my iPhone because the battery's low. Here we go. Oh, so I don't like where so I just want to look at the biggest go back to Wi-Fi. Just go back to Wi-Fi. You're I still have so many no I have so much. Well here I'm I'm just gonna do this. Yeah. What's this movie's timeline? Couldn't figure it out. Oh, that's what I said to Paul. I said, has it been he's Paul said that he thought some of the main action, like the bulk of the movie, took place over like one week. How about when how about when it's almost like a vampire story too, because he if it's a cloudy day, he can be a man, not a dog, but then his tail emerges when he's running away from Rita. That tail was that is like a that is a furry thing. That's what you do. You wear a tail to attract other furries, but that's a subtle way of letting them know. Peeking out of his khakis. Is that true? By the way, oh when when he when that moment happens, when he first turns into a full-fledged dog at that boss's like when she's having lunch with the boss to be a manager of another department store. Yeah, I love that that boss says, I wrote it down, I own over five stores. At that point, can't you say six, seven? Like you wouldn't just say like over five. So this is what's weird about that scene though, because I was obsessed with that scene and I was obsessed with his other children who didn't want to take over like the legacy of Yeah. And he's like, she's like my doctor dad. I want to be a medical doctor. A medical doctor. I was obsessed with that. What other kind of doctors are there? I guess like a doctor of literature or I mean like uh I guess I mean it it doesn't seem like when you say a doctor people assume like oh a philosophy like the to really lead with medical doctor well why does she throw herself into that pool in that scene? She just goes bananas and berserk and she tries to walk on water. Well she's trying to get to him. I understand that, but did she but did she trying to run ? She forgot that she couldn't run across a pool is what the only thing she was so shocked to see him turn into a dog. Now listen, if you saw a grown man turn into a dog, what would you do? Like I think I would try to make a phone call or a literal. I would I think I would w I would institutionalize myself. I would be like, okay, we're donezo. Which we should do after this call. The recording of this will be proof that we all need help. I just realized something. I just got it. I just looked at Nate Kylie's research here. Nate Kylie just revealed that the version on the DVD does have a score. The version on Amazon Prime and Tubi removes all of the music, which means they probably didn't pay for it or something. So there is a score. And then the other and another piece of information that Nate has just dropped on us is that the dog in the movie is often switched out from But at least they are like twins. But this is like that would be like a like I think they said golden retriever. So throughout the movie there are different dogs because there's a lot of heat waves going on during the filming of this. Well, that's the least of our problems. I didn't notice it was a different dog. I didn't worried about why there was no sun makers. I would like to now uh uh uh retract my criticism for the lack of for the silent as if it was a choice to be without a score. So that that's what happened. Okay, so it that it's that is not the filmmaker's intention. So okay. Exactly. I feel better about that. Me too. It was confounding. You know, but now at the end, when we when before you went back to Wi-Fi and joined us uh out of your hotspot world June, we were talking about the end of the movie where uh the dog dies is hit by a car, which we could see coming. I thought it was gonna be a Romeo and Juliet ending. I thought they both were gonna kill themselves. Uh and then uh A note written by a five-year-old scrawled in marker on like a big piece of construction paper. And it's like, good luck, I hope you're happy whatever it says. Going back to be a dog. He is a dog. Like I don't even know how he knows how to write really. He used to be a man. He was a man. He was a man in the past. But they say if you if you don't use certain parts of your brain, you know what? Wow. June giving him such a benefit of the doubt that I am genuinely shocked by. I mean, it's not like we're talking about Kyle here. If you haven't written your oh, he believes me, he is no Kyle. If you haven't written in I don't know how old that Golden Retriever is, five years. If you have a few years been running around like that not knowing because the mo well you didn't even play the magic pawn, but I mean this dog has been living his life, he seemed it didn't seem like it just happened either. It seemed like he has been in this purgatory. He's been a dog for a while. You know, you don't use certain skills in life, you lose them. Like they say if you don't speak for a while, you lose the you lose the the muscle. It's a muscle. It's a muscle. I mean, can I just play the the opening curse? I mean here is here's a moment of the opening curse because we haven't done this. Girls, where are you ? Oh, here is one she he is hot . Hey, watch me. Ugh, that's messed up. It's because I'm a dog, isn't it? Oh look . I really am a dog. Okay Okay, watch this. Watch this guy check his own reflection out of it. You laughing at me, water pond? How dare you? If you're smarter than me, then tell me how to change. See You don't know either . This is come back. When that happened, when that happened, come back, I was like, we are in for the best movie I've ever seen. Like he is mocking a water pond that then turns literally starts talking. Yeah. Did anyone think at a certain point in the movie that that mysterious pond lady was Rita ? No! No . But I love that. I thought I also thought to myself, why don't we ever get an explanation of who the mysterious pond voice is . Like doesn't it? It's like I think my mind was trying to answer that question, and so I did, you know, make that lady Rita . I I'll say this like we got we're getting great questions here and I'm gonna kind of bring some of these up here. Uh people say this, you know, was Prince cursed in this life or a past life? Was he somebody of old uh lineage? Or was it the something that happened to him a couple weeks ago? Because he seems to be living pretty happily as a homeless dog. Um and and he's called a playboy in his old life, which seemed like it was kind of like an olden days thing, but that's not this isn't a Kate and Leopold type of scenario. I mean that was from MASH and canine Canine Prozac, which is something that they wanna the dog offers himself in the movie. And is real. That's like a real thing. There are like antidepressants for dogs. Absolutely. Can ine Prozac writes: Was Alvin turned into a dog or was Prince the dog given human intelligence and the ability to turn into a human? Wait a second. Was Alvin turned into a dog? Or was Prince the dog No, and I think he says , I think he says a curse was put upon him. He was too much of a playboy, a curse was put upon him so that he would be a dog, which is what we call like a a guy who like is a is a t like gets around. He's a dog or whatever. So he's a dog in the next life until he can learn to appreciate and find true love, right? Right. Okay. I that's what I thought too. I just uh I'm just throwing it out there. We're trying to open up some questions. There's a lot of great questions here. Why is he a dick when he's in dog form and nice and human form? Now is he lying? I mean, I think that that may be an a film choice, like uh like they they needed more jokes in the movie. I think it might be. I think like we're what we're toying with is this idea of like all men are dogs, you know, and even when you don't think they're dogs, I mean what's her face Paula says it early on at the park, like they're just good for you . She's not a having fun, but they're bad for you. They're dying. So I think that's where we're as an audience, like we are trying to figure that out. Like, is he a dog? Is he a dog? It's hard to root for them because it's pretty late in the movie when she falls into the pool, he rescues her, but he does call her pizza face cinder And that really that really bothered me. I was like, the you I don't understand how at this point he can be still being this kind of hateful. That's my point. He's not learning it all. His mad at her. He's mad at her because she forced him to embarrass himself. She's like, come, it's gonna be cloudy. He's like, I don't wanna do this. I don't feel comfortable. And she's like, please, for me. And he's like, listen to me, honey. I know this is not gonna work well. And he gave of himself. Okay. And then he revealed himself, he wrecked everything, and he's like, you're nothing but a pizza face cinder block. Like he hated her. No, it's that and that's a bad relationship. Well, by the way, why shouldn't she say that to this gentleman right here when he shows up thirty years later? That's a segue. Why why did it take you so long? And then we learn that he created his own business. This man set up his own dog training business and he goes, which is very successful, obviously. I'm pretty famous at that. So he's the same age until he magically is turned old in a moment, right? And why? Somebody why does he why is he allowed to do that? I don't know. Yeah, because he is just a human that was born , then he got really old and then he gets really young for the last scene. Does he? Well yeah, when they kiss. No, they're both old when they kiss. They both the no, they they are both old, but then they turn young as they kiss like beauty and wall. Yes, that's the whole end. Wait, I missed that. Wow. Okay, so they get their life back. That's weird. And yet everyone they know is is is in their eighties. All right. Alright we are gonna we're gonna bring in the dog guy in just a second, but before we bring in our dog guy, before we bring in Stephen Kramer Glickman, we are gonna uh see if there's a different way to look at this movie. If there perchance is a a a moment to reflect differently on it . It is now time for second opinions. You sent in these second opinions and there were so many great ones. Uh this one uh right here is um from our friend Rob from Long Island. Rob from Long Island always has a good song. Here we go. Love on a leash has a magical pond, but it doesn't have any background music or sound effects. If I say that I hate it, it shouldn't come as a shock. But if you gave it five stars, you These are five-star reviews culled from Amazon.com. Uh and look, are there really good five-star reviews for this movie? No. They're creative. Uh uh, you know, so I'm gonna read uh I'm gonna read a five-star review to get the sense of it, but I will also say there's a controversy here that the director paid people to uh up the rating of this movie because it is a ninety six audience score on Rotten Tomatoes. Five stars on Amazon. So this very high uh level. I think it's all done as a goof and a prank because a YouTuber told people to go there and do it. But uh but I'll say Isaac K writes absolutely insanity from the beginning to end, no music whatsoever. The whole movie is a strange, soundless void outside the voices of the actors and actresses. The editing is very bad and the story jumps around like the film is having a seizure. Scenes begin and end seemingly at random. It jumps between day and night in some places, and the storyline is nonsensical to say the least. The dog is really the best character here. His inner monologue makes the movie strangely, despite claiming as a dog his name is Alvin Flang. When he becomes human, he is named Prince and his name is that the owner gave him. I really can't put this into words how insane this film is, and I guarantee you will not see the end coming at all. With this insane plot twist every two scenes, random dialogue, and a truly atrocious directing and editing style. This is a very high highly, ly entertaining film from beginning to end. It's a great way to kill an afternoon. Five stars . You know, wow. I I think that that's a, you know, a fair, a fair look. But in the third opinions, we get a little something different. Nate Kylie, always doing great research for us. Thank you, Nate. And Nate comes into the third opinions. These are people who are angry. David, like David Kachadorian, who reviewed this in 202019? He goes, if I could give this zero stars, I would . This is so bad. The only reason I started to watch it is because it set it at a 9.4 on IMDb and it was high ly rated on Amazon. It is obvious. The reviews above one star are somehow affiliated with this made-on-a-camcorder movie. The sound is unbearable, the acting is high school production quality, and several shots are reused. You can hear when there is no audio track, there is no consistency in sound recording, and that was in the first seven minutes when I stopped watching it forever. One star . Good reviews are fake. Dave Kart ashian. Wow. He really cracked the case. And then Jackie, just Jackie with a Y writes, This movie makes no sense. Production is bad. Bad actors. Even the dog is a bad actor. One star. So people really took it on. But now I want to give you a couple little pieces of information. Molly continued Nate Kylie's research and found out not only that our director is uh an octrogenarian, um, but uh she appeared in the Joy Luck Club as an actress, anti number one . But there's a true love story here. A love story that we may not have seen coming, is that Jana Camp