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Jle Jason is getting deay So the mony I ping, there's just a bunch of movies want to makeaking in the gade. It's a real question on you how did this get pay? and hello people are Chicago! We are alve at the Chicago Theater, and we are so excited to talk about a movie That changed the generation Some say it might be the best Marvel affiliated film ever 's Technically not a Marvel film because I've never seen that weird title above Marvel before. in association. It's like we live next door to Marvel But if you need to know the plot, off Morbius. It's Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Vampire. I don't know. It's a weird story about a man who doesn't have the right DNA, but vampire bats do. I think we learned a lot of bad things about vampire bats that aren't true And if you're looking for something scary, don't worry, you won't find it here Surprisingly, in the hour and forty eight minutes of this film, not much happens, but we are gonna break it down tonight With my coost, please welcome mr. Jason Man ucas Stop j Do it Chicago Iking about Giving up balcony Here we are, I need to watch M beers Question markark. We definitely watched Morbius. That is a true statement. Yesterday, you said something that I I will say I put into effect today, which is you admitted that you watch some things Yes at a faster speed. one hundred percent. And I was like, Yikes, that sounds like a great idea. So I started doing it on Morbius earlier today Yeah. Okay. there's so much slowo in this movie That I was like, what's going on 'causeuse sometimes it would be like normal, and then sometimes it would be like. And then I tried to mess with it and inadvertently I watched like fifteen minutes of the movie at ero point seven five I made it longer watch this movie for longer than you did. I don't understand why you can go below the normal speed because I really want to drink it in. Occasionally I will make that mistake in an audioobook and I'm like, come on, get to the point. and then I realize it's my mistake. But no, I watch this in real speed how did this get made? I don't fuck around. I watch it in the right aspect ratio. I rent out of theater. I sit there by myself I do all the research. No I watch these all in the real speed, but you know what I was upset because I love watching Marvel movies. I love those films. and I know I only have a few chances to get June on board with those. And this is where I wasted that. Well let's hear it from her. Please look at my colother Cs, Tay and Radio Welcome Jim Hi Paul. How are you? I'm well. Thank you. How are you? Good. I love this movie What? . Blank it out, show's over. I enjoyed it quite a bit. It was weird the final episode of the How did This Get Made podcast was only one and a half minutes long Chicago saw historic podcastaking. June had a take so hot, we had to wrap the podcast. But you know what? I'm happy to hear you say that. And I will say I don't know if it's the fact that we've been on tour and we've watched so many bad movies. Yeah, we're not well. Yeah. I mean if we're gonna compare this to Ugy loves, this one went down easy So yy. I do agree with that. Morbius you know is a grand film, you know, it spans a quarter of a century. you know, we're following these characters from twenty five years ago all the way to the present. I mean, I just love Jason is a comic book fan, you know, I think that you probably feel like' been waiting waiting for Morbius the Living vampire to enter our cinematic universe And I haven't been This is a character I don't care about Morus the liiving vampire is like a also ran spider man kind of good guy bad guy kind of in that category that I' not I'm not even that familiar with. I mean, he's part Dredevil, right? Yes, all the echol location stuff, all that I can hear everything. He's fart Spiderm Man, which we kind of address because he got bit or he has put the blood in, whatever. And then I would say this movie makes him mostly Batman. Like the fact that he doesn't call himself Batman upset me. You are using bats to attack. Don't just use your doctor name. like It's his real name. H Yeah, but I would never I would never go to a doctor whose last name was Morbius. Yeah. Like that. Eever. But see, approaching the movie with no knowledge, because I think I asked you, Paul at one point, is this Batman? Yeah. And you watch am I watching Batman? Yeah Is this sort of another version, like another kind of take on Batman's origin story? And I don't know much about any of these gentlemen, Batman Spider Rom, But Batman's origin story like I do know Yeah which is Well, he sees his parents get slaughtered in an alley. Okay, great. well, okay. Do you Yeah. I do know that. I know that But I was like, but if you and I would recommend another viewing erasing all of the comics you've read and just approaching it a new. D't do it like this. erasing Ereac seen all the comics you read book. And just approaching it like it's a brand new thing. Yeah. And you might enjoy it. Pa, you did enjoy this movie I said I enjoyed it. Okay. I was surprised Is it goodood movie No But it is competently made in part. but Also nothing happens. L it's a weird thing. It's like a perfect rainy day movie to watch on like a channel that plays like mostly like two and a half memoryruns. Like it's like, well, that's the only channel channel is that. And are you watching it?? I mean, isn't that's what TBS TB? TBS is pretty much that Like ye two and a half men and Morbius. Morbius it Morbius posits a world in which you want to know what the coolest thing is in twenty twenty two, bullet time We did this already. We did, I could see the bullet coming and dodge it. That's the matrix. Come on. To me, the best thing about Morbius simply was his doctor's outfit, which look like a very high class chef outfit. Like I've never seen a doctor that has like a button around the neck. You look like a priest doctor chef. I was so obsessed with his lab because they're they are doing clinical trials there for at least One patient, Anna Yeah. She's in there. Anna is in there and I guess maybe still currently in a coma. My assumption My assumption is We'll be in a coma forever.it It's really tough because I spent the entire movie and the two post credit scenes thinking when will we take this vial to Anna Or wake her up Well, this is interesting because I forgot a big part of this movie There is a moment where the King of Sweden gives him an award, right The Nobel Prize. The Nobel Prize So he gets the Nobel Prize Wait, does he get the Nobel Prize? He created artificial blood, of course he did. you know what? I think it was happening so slow on my screen That I wasn't processing Iouldn't help but to miss it at that point. It is said so quickly because it's just a quick cut to it. It's like, noobel prize. Anway, we're back in the lab. and' like, wait wait, We just traversed twenty five years, then we go forward to synthetic blood and then we're back in. like there's so much going on, but synthetic blood seems like Isn't that healing him? Isn't that working? W. But it's for shorter and shorter periods until O go after he got B by the vampire bat. Oh, I'm sorry. ye. R. I think he's looking for a cure like a full blown cure. and I don't think synthetic blood is it. So that's like insulin for him. He's like, it's noting it. I have to do something more dress. The thing that's tricky is I believe and I'm sure someone's going to shout it out, but I believe But that artificial blood is impacting the world in a huge way, right? Tyese said later on that it saved him in the battlefield. Well Tyres is in this bucket. doing great work And great. God. When Tyres showed up, I wrote, Thankk God, Tyres is here And then when Tyres ceases to be funny, I'm like, oh no Why, Tyres? Why did they take the funny guy? All I wanted was for him to be his character from Fast and Furious. Yeah like Are you telling me you got vampire blood in your body? Like no, he's just dead serious. But in the trailer or one of the trailers, there's multiple trailers with extra scenes. Tyreres does take off a jacket and reveal a robotic arm Okay. Oh Okay, the balcony needs to chill out I know that's hard because you're in the balcony and you're already most of you pissing your pants. But yes, like Tyreres's character, there are multiple reshoots here. his character did have a robotic arm. so I feel like they also were trying to show something there, which makes sense because when Tyreres is chasing doctor Morbius, and I'll call him by his doctor name, doctor Morbius, he manages Mike. he manages to Get to the top of the building as quick as Morbius and Morbius did L Morbius like flew up there boundning off walls and Tyreres got up there real quick with the wind. What happened with the wind? Oh my gos What is that wind in the subway tunnel as well. I get the subway tunnel because I feel like That's the subway tunal pushing the wind forward. I agree with you. You that also happens. But it happens on a rooftop. And I thought it was just a windy day. And you don't know. Once you're up there, I think what was happening was, you know, he's constantly trying to Morbius, trying to understand what his body can do the power set is. Yes, what his power set is because he's adjusting to this is where I like the movie. He's adjusting to not only being you know, out of the prison of his illness, but and being and feeling good, but actually feeling more than good, which is superhero level. Now where I think there was a missed opportunity He's feeling more than good. What'd you say? He's feeling moreorbin good I think he where we were going is that he you're say going Morbin good. Morbin good. Got it. gotot it I wish we had seen him think he was a superhero or had superpowers before he actually did. because he spent his life alicted by a very serious Iness. I see. So you you would have Wait, thought he had superpowers or just was healthy. Superpowers's how made him what it feels like to be healthy ever. That' That's what I'm saying. I would have loved it if we had a scene where he's like, I did it. I'm healthy. I live in the real world before he like turns into like a blood suscing vampire and murders a bunch of people. Either way, I just think that was such a becausecause the heart of the story I actually think is really compelling. They just didn't really do anything with it You know, but I think' what was happening with the wind anyyway, to go back to the wind on the rooftop I think what was happening was that it was simply just a windy day. and we were watching man super powers like brace himself to not get thrown off with. I think what it is and I think this is what it is, but I don't think it's successful or I think it's too confusing I think what it is is he now, the one of the elements of his power set now is that he can fly And he yet doesn't know it, but his body is processing air currents everywhere. Well, can I tell you why? So ye, so that he can fly because bats are blind and they fly off of the air is what. I thought, Oh, I thought that when he has this blood He gets hollow bones Like our. We didn't get that. Can you repeat it I'm so sorry. What now I believe and scientists in the audience, I know there's a lot. backack me up. I believe you have vampire. You think scientists are in the balcony It Sunday night. If you're a scientist and you're in the balcony, you're not a scientist I believe that vampire bats or bats in general have hollow bones. That's my right And birds. Birds have hollowone birds. Same us. Birdman is in this. Yes Yeah. Well, wait, you thought that the wind was because his bones were now hollow Yeah, because he's lighter Oh, but I well Well then we're kind of saying the same thing because I don't think it's that wouldouldn't it have been amazing if he took if he gets bitten by the vampire and of all the transformations you see, you watch the marrow get sucked out of all of his bones. That That's what's trailing him whenever he jumps up. That's bone marrow. Bone marrow No, I think it's his I think he is look because bat bones are hollow allowing them to be light enough to fly, they're unable to produce the B cells needed for immune function in their bone marrow like other mammals Oh, so they're unable to combat viruses. Yes. Okay. so now I have a new set of problems Without that marrow baby, they are prone to viruses. This guy is riddled with virus. No, my thing is I think the first time on the rooftop it happens, the wind is blowing. it's just the wind, but they're visualizing it because he's like, what the fuck is this wind? the same way they're trying to visualize I can hear across town. They're trying to visualize all of these bat specifics, these bat senses. I also think that his hearing is bullshit because He seems to selectively cancel out the entire city. Yeah unless it's like, oh, I can hear down the hall in this one minute. like the nur is killed. What happened to the nurse?? Oh she was killed. Oh shit, what happened? Like you would think he couldn't sleep because the noise would be like he never the thing that happens that what's wonderful about Daredevil's powers when he gets them as a child is that When he loses his sight and all of his other senses because he gets toxic wasays dumped on him And all of his other sense is Hyightten, he's almost driven insane by the amount of input he's now getting. He can hear cophony of sounds that he cannot control. We never see Morbius struggle with his body. He is like M wait, I can fly, I can do anything. I'm awesome. I'm immediately incredible at this. Done, I letto. get to work You need me to be Jacked Leto. Okay, I need to be skinny in one scene and then I'm full blown Jacked Leto He' carry me around set, but I'm jacked. I love him. He literally plays one game of handball, just one and he's got it, figured it out, gotot my powers down. Like he nails it. He's not even playing a game. He's just tossing a ball. Yeah. And he's like, H, can I do this? Yep. I guess I'm a fucking cool ass vampire But're not the kind that's not cool with the sun Well, the big issue that I had in the beginning was his love interest, Martine. You know, she comes in and it feels like she's catching him in the act. She's like, what are you doing And then proceeds to knock on a giant tube in the middle of his office full of bats. He's not hiding the bat work Like she presents like, I know you're working on some secretive dink, tink dink You know what there should have been there should have been an administrator, somebody who is like, I don't like these bats in here. I don't like what you're up to. I don't like your long hair. I don't like your too trimmed, too dark beard for someone your age There's definitely Gay in there. You are not a doctor, sir. You are Jared Leto Welcome to the Scorebed, where betting on game day is made easier with all the promos and player props you need in a seamless and easy to use experience. 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Matt Smith is absolutely deevouring this movie This is the performance. Matt Smith is where I'm at. Okay, hold on one second. G me an entire movie about Matt Smith. Mat Hold on. That's a medical term. Hold on All you doctor Who nerds Take that out of the equation. Yeah, doctor Who? ye. He just started watching it. And just here's Iilling Christopher Eccleston. Mattmith has no reason. He has nothing. Why does this all of a sudden be like, yeah, fucking kill everybody. Like the synthetic blood is working for him and he's like, fuck it, now I want to eat people. Okay, he has no He's like, Yeah, we can cover up dead bodies. That's easy. What? What the movie is going for or one of one thing that's coming through is how we treat disabled people people who are I'm serious. And so I I did feel like, oh I do understand that the world has not been set up or adjustments have not been made for someone like Matt Smith to live with his illness successfully in the world. We see him get bullied and beatied as a child. And he's hiring bodyguards because he's like, yes, weing off the mo. Bodyguards also refers to Dr. Morbius as a cripple when he's letting him into Matt Smith's apartment. Okay. So I do think what's happening to Matt Smith is that he can no longer take being disabled in America. Got it. unt soil he wants to eat them and drink their Or in the world, or in the world Be I'm pretty sure he's first treated in Greece And I was like I wrote, hang on, is anybody Greek? Is somebody in this movie supposed to be Greek? Is Jared Harris supposed to be Greek? Is the clinic Greek? Is Morbius Greek? Is Is anybody supposed to be Greek? Why is this isus a Greek name? Yes, of course. Vetri Morbius A We Morus Gal isy? I think it was during a time where it was like Mediterranean air can cure anything. I feel like Jared Letter was like, I want to go to Greece for this. But just for one scene. Here's my question though, and I'm asking this very honestly because their movie leaves a lot to the viewer to s But Matt Smith is doing well with the synthetic blood. Well, listen, even though they they're surviving on the synthetic blood, there's nothing like the red stuff. Also you know, we know that. There's nothing like that red stuff. He wants to eat dinner at a red sauce place if you know what I mean. Here's the thing and we and we understand why and I think that for for Jared Letter from Morbius, he is doggedly pursuing a cure. He is chasing, he is a scientist, he is a doctor. He is chasing a cure Matt Smith's want is to Dance He cannot dance. You know what he's not doing with synthetic blood? Dancing The guy needs to move. I mean, they really do recreate that scene from Spiderm Man three. Reth Toby MagGuire there. I wish we I wish we knew more about Anna's parents and This kind of wavers they had to sign to get her treatment and to get her a spot in this. Do you clical trial at New Horizon? Do you think Anna's parents were ever like by her bedside like, oh, Anna, okay, okay. And then we're like, okay, can we're leaving now walk past giant plexiglass full of baths think they're ever like, what is this treatment? shouldould we take her to a regular h. By the way, even if Even if they had never seen the bats. The lighting in that facility. Okay. Nah. Okay, not only the lighting in the facility, the lighting in the facility is on the same timer system as episode one of Guillermo del Toro's Cabinet of Curiosities The Tim Blake Nelson episode, where that lighting, that timer based lighting is in a storage facility. This is a high tech hospital. The nursey is killed and is dead on the floor all night into the next day. Well to me thought To me, I thought it was one of those lights like, you know if you stay still in the bathroom too long, the light will go off and you'll be like Wave your hand. like u But o, those are the worst. I hate it. When you have a certain age and you realize, oh no, I now shit longer than the movement timer This is not good I'm old. How is there still some left I thought I thought that it was on movement. But's when I thought I was out. It pulls me back in. Okay. But I thought it was on movement lights, but it wasn't because she runs to the end of the hall. And then there's a lone light switch that turns on all the lights. It's like, wait,'s movement lights. I actually thought that I enjoyed that sequence. I thought it was very scary. It's a great It's a great device and it is used so much better in the Guillerma del Toro thing But I will say this once again Patient, Anna literally is attached to the laboratory. like it does feel like What other care is she getting there? Does't it seems like people are going again. That's why I want to know what the situation is because if you're part of a clinical trial Do you think she needs to be admitted to a hospital and I guess the I mean, to me the lab is aab hospital is a hospital. What is she doing? Yeah, I know I know. He puts her into a the last we see, he's like,, put her into a coma. I have a question. I have a question. neverever wakes her up things and some of this might just be the movie is doesn't answer these questions, but and some of it might be because I watched it on a bunch of various speeds isred So Jared Harris is running the Greek clinic where Boy Morbius meets Boy Matt Smith Okay, yes He then calls him Milo for the rest of the movie Isn't his name Lucian? Yes rightight? Yes. So his name is Lucian. it's just this thing where where Morbius calls everybody Milo and he's like, you don't have an identity except for the one I give you, your new Milo. But he also then says I don't even remember the first Milo So it's like it's not even in Like, o, I love that Milo new's taking away. I don't even remember by I assume that you two would know the answer. I think he's just saying intimateation here. I think he's just saying, you're just another Milo that'll die soon. Who cares? This movie's about me Morbius the living vampire And oh wait, now because I can like, now because I fixed your dialysis machine or whatever the machine was with a ballpoint pin, who is he? Forge R's for the comic book nerds But by the way, he can make anything. he's a machinist. He can build anything out of anything. Is' Morbius. By the way, his mutant power. When Morbius fixes that with a pen spring, Jared Harris is like, you're smart. I'm gonna send you to science school. Well, here's my question. says there is a school in New York four gifted youngsters, which sounds a lot like Xavier Academy to me And I was like Are these motherfuckers trying to introduce the X men in Morbius Well, I will straight up kill myself if this if this is how this happens. Again, I didn't take any of this baggage into my viewing. Of course. enjoyed it But I do feel like at one point, Look, he like he calls everybody Milo. But then when he saves Lucian's life, you would think he goes, I'm not going to call you Milo anymore. I'm going to call you Lucian. And then he doesn't And then so much so that later in the movie's like, I gott to save Milo. It's like, you don't even know his name. Everybody calls him Milo. even you calls himself Milo. and other people call him Bicks from Andor calls him Milo. Everybody calls him. every his I swear to God, I think Matt Smith's character legally changes his name to Milo Just because Jared Leto is like That's who you are. That's it. I run the cult, you're Milo By the way, speaking of weird things in this movie and we'll get to a lot of them, There was nothing more unsexy than being off the coast of Long Island. Now I am a long Island native. as am I. But when theyational when they say international waters, I'm thinking something very exotic. was not expecting thirteen miles off the coast of Montau. Like like you could for sure see a strip mall from there. it D International waters. I was like, is Don D Millo here? What's going on? Morbius loves his outlet mall shopping. He's like, well, I'll hit the outlets and then we'll get on a And then we're gonna go to Montak, and then we're gonna hang out. We gotta J roll You know who I felt really badly for Anna, of course, but also let's we gotta put her in a coma I felt really bad for that crew on that ship on that cargo ship. The mercenaries? Multiple times people tell you don't worry about them.ike they're like, I don't care about them. Whid Are we sure they all deserved to die? Well, I mean, that movie is trying to tell us they are, but here's my question is, why did he even need mercenaries Just charter a boat and build a lab in it. Why do you need gun toing mercy? I quest So I think it's just so they can be visually bad guys so you're okay with him killing them. Well, here's my other question for you Why do they need to be in international waters? Like what why do they need to be on the water? Be he tells Milo it's pretty it's it's full blown illegal what I'm going to do. So I can only do it in international wateraters. Yeah like the FDA, Fauci's not approving this of experim. Is the b that brought COVID to the states, Morbius He's like the first scene takes place at a wet markark. Now, I do love when Morbius is recording his own journal. He goes, I have echo loocation. That's bat radar for those uninitiated. You fucking dope. It's your own your own journal. Okay, that made me think is somebody 'cause to your point, Jason, there doesn't seem to be any like admin infrastructure at New Horizons So I was like Wh Iart Where's guy from House being like, you can't do this. You're out of control. Right, But I was like, I know Martine's not transcribing those notes. from the tape, So is Jared Letto transcribing his own notes? I feel like he's doing voice to text. Wh like is Hanna Like is she is this treatment covered by like her PPO? Like Well I thought you were to say is it like a work study? No,m like, I'm like, what is where Jat what I think is true is I believed that Jaret Leto was operating out of a hospital And I think he is not. I think he's operating out of. Oh, Jason, that is not a hospital. No. That's a lab in It's a lab warehouse that's been converted., okay. I have issues with labs because at one point a guy is forging one hundred dollarars bills's like, that's my new science lab. How? He walks in, he walks lab Healks he just overhears with his echel location, two guys trying to pass off counterfeit one hundreds and they're like, all right, we gott to get back to the lab. He follows them to their lab where they're manufacturing money. and he tweaks two, three things and is like, Yp, now I can do my blood experiments on this printing press. He has a printter He has he got the gunkos and he takes out like the ink cartridge. It's like, now it's a blood machine Now I now I have my blood. It is absolutely insane that he's and it's all it's not even a time jump. I could understand. he gets rid of the guys who are counterfeit. and he says, okay, this is raw materials I can use. T jump. Now he's got it set up. No immediately, he's like, screw screw screw, screw screw, screw Perfect. And the thing things like spinning around. They were making money. It's like it might as well have been this movie is nonsense. I have such an issue with the lack of refrigeration for all this blood because unless he has like a yeti backpack, the backpack that throws the blood into not We've seen the kind of lab he needs to make it work. Yeah. This is not bad Yeah It seems like a I mean, where is the blood I mean, also, the amount of underground layers, like they're going deep. I mean, this is a ler quest. I did love that the criminals referred to their counterfeit space as a lab. Yeah I was like, wow, they bring a certain level of professionalism to their work as they're trying to pass off fake one hundreds at the diner. Also, Morbius all over the news. all over the daily bugle, J Jonah Jameson is blowing him up by the way, shot scenes for this movie. J Jonah Jameson. Oh really? Yes. and then they cut them That's heartbreaking. That's heartbreaking. Maybe because they didn't want to reveal Well because there are issues with DMC Okay. There's a lot of machakes. Yeah. But he's ever he's on the cover of the paper, Bah, but he has he's also not hiding out at all. He' he's hoodless, looking exactly like his incredibly identifiable self With Bix from Andor in a diner being like, I'm aire now But not that kind of vampire.. My issue was, how did he know that he couldn't have animal blood? He's like, I have a search for human blood. You didn't even try animal blood. Well he's also in his old place, in his old lab, there appears to be there's the blue synthetic blood. Then there's row after row of what looks like red human blood. Couldn't he have drank that for weeks Well no, I think only for hours. Well, it's going down six hours, four hours and twenty two minutes. But isn't that only for the synthetic Yeah, like Yeah, I think you're right. He' take of the red blood What doesn the blue blood like. Ry doesn't seem to really suck it out. Like he seems to just like take a slug of the blood. Like I want to see him like a blood slug. Like I really want I want like when he's in the jail cell, I'd like to take a blood slug from you because he's like he's like, I just feel like he's like, hey, you'reaving a lot of blood in there. If I'm Need human blood. I'm gonna suck that blood bag dry I'm just gonna because like when while I get the next batch. Well the other thing is because he doesn't seem to have, like obviously there are vampiric urges that he has. Yeah like when when when she cuts her hand when she cuts her when the cat is it the cat scranatches or whatever. Yeah she gets a cut and he can like he it activates him, right? But but he also doesn't attack He only attacks people he's only out of control, rather, on the boat So why isn't he just getting people to donate blood to him to drink? That seems like he must have he's a Nobel Prize winnning doctor. He has access to blood. And by the way, why are people so mad that he's like at one point when he's on the cover like, I knew that guy was a fucking freak. Like really, the Nobel Prize scientist who invented synthetic blood. you have an issue with? Do he has not carender I mean, I do think it's a hard sell because I think it's wonderful to donate blood. I try to donate blood, but it's like, I don't know that I want to donate blood for someone to drink Well, I want here's what I would happily drink blood. I would rather sorry Bat f flip I'm a vampire. Guys, I've been cass in Morbius two still Morbon No, I would happily give my blood for someone to drink so that they wouldn't prey on human beings. Can I have it? Yes. I would June, pint after pint. Absolutely. My favorite part in so the part where he does wild out the first time he's transformed into a vampire, and he's on the ceiling in the boat, in his cage, and then they open it and he comes down and he kills all the mercenaries, right? Then he wakes up out of it like Oh who whoa, whoa. And he's like what happened here? Amnesia. 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Let us surprise you I want to just get into Tyse is character because these two cops And I love and I love Al Madrigal like very funny in it and it's great. but I know it's a movie convention, but I need to call out that they never have talked before they get to the crime scene. They are stone cold silent. And then they get there and it's like information de. Like It seems like Tyes like, don't tell me anything tntil I'm standing exactly in the center of. They also don't have a I mean, I'm assuming they are long term partners. They have no dynamic between And they seem to also work San Francisco for Venom connecting the weirdo Sony Marvel You. Do you think they worked San Francisco? or they just think this might be connected to the thing that happened in San Francisco, AKA Venom? Oh, I thought like they were setting Tyres up to be like a special investigator, which was kind I li that because when he has that earpiece, is he just getting the APB wire in his like ear It's like it's like I think that's just for the rest of the police. I think But I mean, is he getting every call because that call ask a nerd here. Is there a nerd who can a singular person who can tell us, is Tyrese playing a character from comics that we should know Who Okay, so he is playing a vampire hunter, not Blade who helps Morbius. By the way, Saculular. S give it up for this heroic Chicago native. Guys. and well done everybody, that you allowed him to speak without everybody being like, Then I want to ask, why does Morbius refer to himself as venom Is he not That's a joke. I think that's a m. That's a joke. It's a joke because by the way, I don't understand com. R When you watch the trailer, Okay, so when you watch the trailer One of the moments in the trailer, he was like, Wh are you? And he's like, I'm Venom. And then he goes, is in the trailer? Yes. And he goes, just joking, I'm Dr. Morbius That's in the trailer. They just left it here in the movie as I'm venom. And I think does he maybe say I'm joking too? I't know I didn't hear that definitely in I have some research as a way to be like, I'm I don't like throw people off the scent or, you know, like you know, like to be like, I'm not even gonna to identify myself. so I'm just gonna to say I'm this other character that has been causing trouble in the same world. Okay, so this is This is the line as it was written U, he goes I'm Venom. And it goes just kidding It's Dr. Morbius at your service And actually I misquoted it. He says, at yourvv. Well I miscoted it. It says, I'm just kidding. it's Dr. Michael Morbius at your cervix. I'm sorry. I have it here and it's actually at your cervix And it's like it's like a joke. He's like making a joke Dr. Michael Morbi is at your service. I will say I understand that this movie falls veryer weirdly in The MCU. In the MCU, I don't know where this falls because there are elements of You know, Spider Man, there's like we're referencing X Men. There's a lot of stuff going on, but I will say the one thing that doesn't seem incredibly established in this universe as is Our superheroes R? Like It doesn't seem like there's a lot of superheroes, but the lack of reaction to vampires seems suspect. L take a look at this. This is a clip two. This is a news anchor just talking about a vampire attack on the lower east side where three people have been killed Authorities have confirmed the discovery of three new bodies outside a bar popular with Wall Street traders. and like the victims before them, they were completely drained of their blood. Ening the killer the mononiker vampire murderer The prime suspect, renowned scientist doctor Michael Morbiz remains at large. So they're not saying it is they're saying the monikeramp the vampire killer. So they're saying because the bodies are drained of blood, that the serial killer must be draining their blood, notot that there is an actual vampire. Th they go it's a copycat vampire murderer, but still draining of blood Be I heard that, I I'm gonna put some more gravatas on that I would think so. Also because the nurse who's I think already been killed at this point, only has two fang marks Yeah There are no other wounds. so that's concerning. Oh, you know, that's gonna raise some eyebrows the movie wants to have it both ways. The movie wants for people to be like, yeah, we live in a world where crazy shit happens. I e. there's a Spider Man, there's a Thanos, there's we live in like the We're we are in the MCU technically sort of arere we nerd? Yes because I can I can answer this nerd a little bit. you can back me up The illusion at the end when Michael Keaton appears is that he was also displaced from his universe when Dctor Strange pulled all the Spidermen together So that wasn't Batman No But No no reason why you should. Do you have every right to think that? Yes. Because Michael Keaton has played both Batman but also the Spider Man villain the vulture. And Birdman. And Birdman And he is Nad Beetlejuice. He is not in this movie, he's Beetlejuice. He's not reprising his role. What if as Birdman in this movie? What if Morbius was like fuck I'm in trouble. Beetlejice beetlejuice, Beetlejice Hey, Hey there, Lordia He hell takeake machine. Gota drink that blood. So for the remake. By the way by the way, there's a great line for Beeteljice your cervix. Yes. See? I am now writing a Beetlejuice reboot Okay But yes, he's that character is the Spiderm Man vulture villain who appears at the end of the movie. That And so so he is tied Loosely because the same little thing happens in the skyline of New York that happens when Doctor Strange is. And it's also why Venom at the end of Venom, there is similar multiversal displacement of people. And again, I will say it, like I said at the beginning, this is not a Marvel movie. It says in association with Marvel They really it's like Figy iss like, o, I really don't want you to take Spiderm Man, but legally I can't say no. Okay. yay. It's like like to see a Sinister sixth film. Under this oh Godd, how would be so fast Why would you destroy it? Let me ask you a question, Cat, people D you shake a litter box and cat come so like the food's in there Yeah. You're kitty, Kitty I don't like it's like, why would the cat come running to it toilet. Wait. when you were when you were potty training your children, didn't you Do the handle take a look,, T to create a Pavlovian response that is like, what? I guess it's time to shit, so let's do this. Now Paul and Jason, I have an announcement. I have to go more b now But It's eight twenty five. Yes. I have a nine hundred fifty six flight out of Chicago. So I am I didn't want to we didn't want to reveal too early. I'm leaving the show a bit early because I know and I'm so upset about it I can't believe it it's Horrifying, but let me tell you this, I have to get a child ready in a pig Minecraft costume tomorrow And as heart, thank you. As hard as it is to leave here to go do that. I truly must go. And when we planned this, we didn't want to have to reschedule Chicago again and we knew it was the night before Halloween. I'm so sorry to leave I love you all. I got a morb. And this is got a mb. Give it up for just sorry I got a mb I'm so sorry So yes, so the show is gonna to continue. We have a lot more to get through. I will say this, before, maybe I was a little hard on Matt Smith. I did like the romance that they had. L when they werere walking around, was like, o now you're quoting the notebook to me. Like you know, I felt like I like them as friends. I like If anything, I wanted more I guess I wanted to understand more like why they were kind of brothers, you know? It really didn't make sense to me that Matt Smith was so connected to him still because kid Jared Letto leaves to go and do his whatever he becomes you know, a Nobel winning blah blah. And Matt Smith just seems to still be like around. And I ask another question about this Is that house that they're living in that estate In Greece? In Greece? Yeah. Is that all full of kids with the exact same disease? Is that like a leopper colony for that disease? I if so, why is he so committed to this one kid? when you would imagine there's floors and floors of them. Unclear. and not only that, but if we're meant to believe the kid kid Morbius' lines, multiple kids are just dying Like just just expiring. So so he's taken on. there's there's an element of this movie which could have been like, I've watched so many people die that I'm not going attach myself to you, Lucian. I'm going to call you Milo. You are a disposable person. And but then he connects with him, he takes care of him, he becomes an older brother to him or whatever. But no, that's not what happens. The very next moment, Jared Harris is like, we're sending you out of here. You're too smart. And he's like, seeee you later. And by the way And then the kid gets his ass kicked, but then later, they're like, you're my brother Here's what this is why I call bullshit on it because twenty five years ago, there was no internet. How was he keeping in touch with him? I just feel like I have a lot of friends I would like to see from Ogami notes. The only one who went after they find him We found one of these on the boat. shit. Like it was like all right, I guess. Oh my gosh. The fact that he flies likeike a squirrel jumper. Is that what it's called? Like people that like a flying squirrel suit? Yeahly like that's what it looks like. It looks like he's in a flying squirrel suit. It doesn't look cool Like and I don't understand why he would need to fly when he can just jump with the same amount of light Wh not just let him fly Why not just let him just or turn into or maybe his powers don't. Maybe nerd, does he not turn into a bat No, thank you. Does he have control of Bats? Oh, why doesn't Matt Okay, Matt Smith is attacked by bats and he's like Bats now like me because I'm the Bats brother. notot Bat man, but I'm the bat brother. But then the bats hate Matt Smith. Why isn't Matt Smith having the exact same experience with the bat as Morbius. Yeah with the bats with flying with the rest and like Mb Ivant' slly. What? I think Matt Smith can fly. Oh we can. When they're in that subway fight scene, which really I mean, there are so many people. That's the thing. There ares so many people in the movie in the subway tunnel, in the subway station, on the city streets that are watching this fight happen and everybody's like, o no, look out It's it's so casual. They're like walking through the subway tunnel and they're like flying up and around. It's like and I'm and it's like testament to New Yorkers who are just like, gott to go to work, who got go, gota go, got to go Okay. What twoo living vampires fighting around me, gotta go to work. doesn't m mean I would say that the thing that bums me out the most about this movie is that Matt Smith just wears a nice suit all the time. o Yeah, he looks like he doesn't take on a real different personality. He just is like, well, we're button down church. Can I ask the nerd a question? Okay, and you know what? Yeah Nerd, what's your name? Michael Bub, bu, bu bu Michael Michael Morbius, you have to answer truthfully. ser.. My question for you, Michael is is Matt Smith playing a character from the Marvel Universe A mash upp, right? Okay. so he's not like it's not a direct one to one rev. He's not a villain in the Marvel universe. Thank you. That's all I wanted to go. Should so that Matt Smith said this Is's Morbon time Because I was somewhat confused with my character's history as he wasn't aware how Milo tied into the Hunger's greatest legacy in origins from the comics. Since it wasn't clarified in the script, many reports came from the set that he was like His character was named Loscius Crown But then they changed it to Milo because they had to reshoot the movie They also thought character of Lcius was a character in the film or in the comics, they decided to change it the last minute. anyway They didn't keep the character's name. Andt they changed it from Lucian to Milo 'cause it was based on a character. Well, his name was, I guess Luxius L OX I A S crown. Then they changed to Lucian Cown, and then Milo. So three name changes for one script And none of it helps clarify who the character is at all. And it seems to me, according to Matt Smith, no one told him like, hey, in the comics, you are this character. And what was I think one of the movie's most egregious problems was Other than just kind of being mad at the people who at a world that kind of bullied him or tormented him or didn't make his life easy, he's just gonna chomp everybody in realistic sense as a villain, as a villain in a superhero story, because that's even though this is a vampire story, this is ultimately a superhero story. There is no clear villain's motive. He doesn't want to do anything Dance And and lear with girls and kill He wants to kill people because because he seems to kill people when it's like presented when he's when he's slighted what or when some by the way, he's an attractive man at a bar and he starts hitting on some other gu's girlriend. He's like, Hey, that's girlfriend. He's like, I'll kill you And then does And then does does guy he might be a dick, but it was his girlfriend. All he said was like her drinks are spoken for him. Also when he kills when he kills the nurse in is it newew Horizons? Is it Horizons? Horizons? Yeah. When he kills the nurse at Horizons, like what a dick move to be like, hey, this this woman that you, my brother Michael Morbius, Nobel Prize winner. her doctor Michael Morbius at your cervix That this that you This person that you work with intimately, her life matters nothing to me. I'm gonna chomp her and drain her of all the blood. He is a dick But I don't know why. And my problem was I don't know what his he has no plan. He has no He has no want. No other than today. He seems like he could live a fine life, but now that he's a vampire, he's like, fuck it, I'll be evil. And we see the ultimate evil when he rips down the warning tape When he leaves the lab, oh, the villain Warning tape doesn't mean anything to me. I lo I loved when he when he when he when he pretends to be the lawyer to visit Jared Leto in prison. Jared Leto already is in prison. B. he's like in there and he's like,h, leaves him some blood And then leaves his cane behind and then he's like walking out of the prison likeoooopoopoo Oh nooo. It's like a Kaiser Soose thing, but for no one. Yeah. like because it's for the camera. That's what I mean. For the camera. The movie because he's like this, he's like lamp, lamp that. Oh, so bad. No more lamp But who was the fake limp for? And why would they let him into the cell? And then why would they let him give him stuff? How do Tyres and Al Madrigal not know that Matt Smith has visited him in jail? Why don't they know about him? Why they find out so lly. there's a theyven arrest him. It's like, he gets in jail to get immediately out Like he fucking morbs in the interrogation. Why not? Yeah, why not yes, they don't even they are so unimpressed by the fact that they're in the presence of a vampire Trh like they are like, huh Okay, we're gonna to come back to this. I also and again, this movie is not sure about powers or anything because there is also a moment when Dr. Michael Morbius is trying to go to see Jared Harris.'s like, come, I'm wounded man. Jared Harris, I I think this is true and I didn't look it up Jared Harris dies grzzly deaths in every role he has He's never survived to the end of a movie or TV show, period. Michael Come to the apartment. Why? Just tell me now what's going on? Like was tri I tried to talk to Milo. I know his name is Luci. But we decided to call him Milo and we're all under your thrall. When you were a bully, you renamed him and we all went with it. Even me, an adult Even me an adult, even though I've not aged in twenty five years And you are now Jared Letto and we are essentially the same age. Oh There there is a there so when he goes to visit Dying Jared Harris. Morbi he is the same. M Morbius not changed. And Morbius is like this. like creep sidestepping. It's like, dude, if you have echo loocation, you know what's in the fucking room. you don't need to be like, ooh, I don't know. someomeone gonna jump out at me. hisis powers are so fickle because like when Matt Smith has What's Bix from Andor's name movie Martine. Martine. When he's got Martine and he's like, he'll come for you or whatever he's kind of trying to get to Martine to lure Morbius to him And Morbius can hear everything. ntil the point where he kills Martine. Y And I was like, why didn't you go rescue her? He listened to the whole thing happening. mayaybe won't happen. Ja leto's face is like, I wonder what's gonna happen next. But then he makes her into a vampire. Do we get a post credit scene with her? Nope. Is that what happens? Y. a vampire? A bam. Is that Michael the nerd is she playing a vampire character F basaceically Celinee in the comics, they changed the Okay, so she's o, energy Vampire from the X Men. Great. Okay, great. I will say. Thank you. I liked her performance. And by the way, give it for give it up for Michael. You need Michael doing heroic work all so long. Everybody give him a pat on the back on the way out. Don't touch him though Don't touch anybody. Don't touch each other I will say this, I liked her performance. I thought the love story was bullshit, but that when he say they are just he's a vampire. She's freaked out. They don't know what's going on. They go up to the roof. he goes close your eyes and then kisses her. I didn't think that was cool. I thought when it goes, hey, I wasn't gonna more out on and she's like, I thought it was romantic. Did you? This man turned into a fucking creature and you're like, oh. I thought they were gonna stone coold fridge her in a way that I was like, wait, are they killing her now? Just to motivate him to get back at Matt Smith. And I didn't like that. But then they instead just turned her into a vampire, I guess. Well, they needed something to activate Matt Smith and and Dr. Morbius to fall through the Eth Eth Yeah. they fight into the center of the Eth. Are they falling in the middle of a building inc? I'm so confused. It was like I was watching the endnd of Transformers O of them. And is it just so that they can Is it just so that they can get to a level where there are bats Also Also Morbius seems to have obviously has a relationship with bats, right? We get that. Vampire bats, where does he go at the beginning? Where is he in the caverns beginning? Okay, hold on a second. Michael, where is does he go in the beginning Costa Rica. Costa Rica. He's in Costa Rica, studying vampire bats. Do we think there are vampire bats in New York City? No. these are just some basic ants. are Th are This is like Antman getting the ants to play like the drums. But like any Y. Any ants can do that. Antman has those powers. He can get everybody doing. So he can control any bat anywhere. No no, no The bats are his friend. He's like Gu help, guys, I'm being captured. And then the bats are, Oh shit, a brother. And they all gu I guess you're right? I guess you're right. But then boy would I like it if he could turn into a bat? orr something like He's kind of flying like his bones are ho. We know that. Why didn't he Wh I The idea that you thought that he gets the shot of hollow bones get He gets hollow bones is incredible. So do you think Superman's bones are hollow? No.'s not he's not a bat. So anybody so it's not just anybody who can fly. No hollow bones. Only that he's a bat. he has hollow bones. Got it, got itor bird But he's not a Birdman. and Birdman in the movie is not Hwkman, DC Justice League member, Hwkman and Hwk girl. do they have hollow bones? No, 'cause their planet, they don't have hollow bones. Okay. Well, okay, so this is the one thing that Martine said about her character, which I thought was odd She said she based it on AOC Which I love AOC, great, but it's also weir like why? How? Where is that evident? I don't see that at all. Like I don't see She's just a scientist. like she's not don't she's not a politician. She's not advocating I would I have follow up questions. Yeah. I do too. It seems like an odd choice to be like, oh yeah, yeah, no, AOC is how I viewed that Martine What part I don't know. I wantan to get deeper into what she was talking about. I want to get into it with the audience because I know that you all have questions. Okay, your name and your questions. My name's Adrianne, and my question is if this movie's present day that puts them in the children's hospital twenty five years ago in Greece, why do they shoot it like it's post war England Yeah, the car that pulled up was odd and old, right? It seemed like a model T. H We get it, Adrian. Greece doesn't have modern cars Oh well, I'm sorry that Green c cheese, right Saginak. I said all their cars run on Saginaki, right? You just like Yes Yes, you know, it's a new fuel in Greece. It's just it's cooked cheese Okay, yes. you have your notebook out? you have a question? Yes. Okay, go for it. My name's Laura Why would you lose your license for combining human DNA with bat DNA And once you have combined human DNA and back DNA, why would you give it to a mouse? which is neither a human nor Now that's a question here. G two pieces of candy for that. The movie does a lot of bullshit like that where it's like, we know that you, the audience, understand that medical tests are done on mice. So we're just gonna do that, even though it doesn't make any sense to the movie we're doing or what's happening So The movie is ca here's what the reality The movie, if you watch it again, please don't The movie is constantly saying to you, the audience You're a fucking idiot You're a fucking idiot. I'm not even gonna help you understand. I'm just gonna show you a bunch of garbage. And you're gonna have to be like, I guess I like it, Jared Letto Obviously, we have opinions about this movie, but there are people out there with a different opinion. it is now time for second opinions Somebody with somebody As a matsmith like me. I need a second opinion Amazing. Great job, giveive it up Here's what I got. I got some second opinions from Amazon. Here we go. There are Three thirty nine thousand Reviews. I don't think that's right It does seem odd. Molly Reynolds, one of our producers put this together. thirty nine thousand. but it does seem it because the internet memification of it, mayaybe it's true. Oh is that it? Yeah that just because it became such a I think I might have been. Yeah. fifty five percent are five star reviews. Here we go Kate Pgh writes, Remember when there was a good old horror movie on every Saturday night No and you and your friends would curl up in the family or living room with bowls of popcorn and potato chips, just waiting to be scared Guess what? They're back They're back. Yep. This is one of a new generation of horror movies, not the classic Frankenstein Dracula, The Wolf Man, plus the myriad of sequels in sci fi, outer space, Japanese monsters. Nor is it the slashher gore everywhere Friday the thirteenth, Elm Street losing your lunch type that was prevalent a few years ago. This is a good Straight forward Horror movie Wth the cost. Well you'll remember it. You won't have any trouble going upstairs afterwards. Five stars. The title of the review, fast shipping and quick handling That you know what's disappointing is and that and I hadn't even really thought about this, but wouldn't this movie would have been so much better if it was a horror movie or if it was I think to be into being a horror movie. I know it was horror in some senses, but like like the Marvel what was it? wereerewolf by Night Marvel presents or whatever Werewolf byy Nnight, which is on Disney pllus right now, is a Marvel horror special. And that was, I thought fantastic. and Tony got what this movie kind of missed. one hundred percent. Yeah. I mean, I'll end it on this one from Baby Doodoo Wh really Oh really? You're gonna to end it with baby Doodoo. Baby Doodoo says, Is this this baby's doodoo? Mabbe. This baby's so cute. so cute. And you said it's COVID free, so I wan to hold it which fall into that trap I fell into this trap before and I got bit Baby Doodoo writes This is a movie I watched ten times before my rental ended. Fty eight hours Worth the time serial killer Worth the time and money, I have watched almost every vampire movie and vampire series, a big fun of the Dracula character. However, Morbius is giving the best of both worlds. The ending gives the idea that there's a positive of Morbius becoming part of the Avengers. It creates the biggest expectation of Morbius I commend the writer for a meaningful storyline as well as the producers and actors that brought it to life. Double thumbs up. Incredible. But Houston thumbs up is double. Not thumb up. Yeah. You never say thumb up. What's c That makes no if the title through the roof. If you're gonna watch it that much, by the movie. You loved it by the movie. it's crazy. Morbius the living vampire exists in the same cinematic universe and Michael the Nerd, correct me if I'm wrong as Manbat or is Manbat DC?C Okay, thank you. thank you. Okay, disregard. All right I was actually thinking whole time that Batman was in the really rattled me. I was thinking that Batman was in this universe, but he's not because I just think of this as like a shitty DC movie, but it's a Marvel. And the thing is this feels like it's more of a DC movie than it is a Marvel movie. Yeah. like And as does Venom, frankly. And Venom two dot dot dot All right, so this is written by our friend. So when we announced that we were doing Morbius here in Chicago, I got an email And the email said, I'm a huge fan of the podcast, a longt timee listener and I was a crew member on Morbius. My role kept me very close to the action I can't tell you my name But you can call me Bat on the wall. I'm gonna have a twix. Is that o? Yeah, go for it And here are The six points that Bat on the wall writes First up Jared was method acting. This included acting very sickly and disabled during the first half of filming. For example, he used crutches to go to the bathroom, hobbling down the corridor at a snail's pace. Each toilet break would last thirty minutes, but it was a two minute walk away. He also wouldn't come to set for five hours once because he hadn't found Dr. Morbius inside of him yet I'm so nervous that I'm gonna be on a job at some point and somebody's gonna write an email to something like this and be like, Jason ManzZuas spent so long having diarrhea in his trailer That didn't come out because he was nervous because he didn't have wipes for his butt. Bat on the wall continues and says, also wore an earwig while filming and his assist an earwig is an earpiece where they feed you your lines. Like the same thing that Tyreres had in his ear, where he gets the police. Yeah. except that it's meant in T Tyreres isn't using it as an actor, his character is using it to hear the police Eactly But this is something so that some people need to have their lines fed to them. And some people who are big method actors like even Marlon Brando liked having the earwig because it kept them that much more in the moment. If I don't know what I'm gonna say, how can I be acting? Brando is if you haven't seen it before, when you go home tonight Google Marlon Brando cQ cards or something like that. there's a great photo of Marlon Brando on the set of the Godfather doing a scene. and Robert Duval, the incomparable, the incredible. Robert Duval has a cQ card hung around his body with Brando's lines on it It's like this big Jason I've also worn a cue card for an actor I was working with. You wore a cue card? Multiple times. Multiple reveal. timimes Okay, Po number two Jared Leto constantly adlibbed what he thought was hilarious dialogue but was actually deeply unfunny and vaguely disturbing. Most takes would last fifteen minutes, all just him solidly ad liibbing. It became such an issue that there were meetings with the studio to see if they could get anything from the scenes. Were they salvageable The best slash worst day for this was a scene with Morbius and Martine flirting in the lab There was a cat in there and Jared kept on repeating weird lines like cat just shit in my mouth You gotta yes and that You gotta, you gotta yes and that. and I bet it tasted great I'm gonna roll that cat up like a little butt burrito What That's not a thing. Nope. Like a butt burrito is not a real thing. And finally Gravity always wins in the end. I guess that accounts for the pubic hair in my cake Wait, is that a Clarence Thomas line That's going back. That's for the oldies in the room That's for GX right there Matt Smith, cool person, great actor. hope he got paid okay And then finally this We shot a fight sequence for one and a half months. It was a huge fight between Morbius and Milo in Central Park, which was an English wood where they painted the bottom half of the trees bright red, and then we shot the rest in an English park that looked nothing like Central Park. I looked up the plot of the release movie because I have not seen it. And the bats that help him defeat Milo did not exist in the original version. Morbius jabbs the serum into Milo's heart when they are grappling mid aair, they fall to the ground in Central Park in an embrace. Then they also changed the Martine plot. It originally ended with Morbius and Martinine flying off into the sky together while the cops watch and that on the wall includes the script right here So the this is how the movie ends. Morbius says, ready. another twig. He holds out his hand, Martine takes it. Martine says, let's get out of here. Then dot dot dot, a big gust of wind blows through. Morbius says, wait for it, dot dot dot