How to Fix the Internet
Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF)
Rerelease - Dr. Seuss Warned Us
In this episode of How to Fix the Internet, hosts Cindy Cohen and Jason Kelly revisit a conversation with Federal Trade Commission Commissioner Alvaro Bedoya. Centered on his vision for a more equitable digital landscape, the discussion explores how privacy and antitrust issues are fundamentally intertwined. Bedoya illustrates the absurdity of workplace surveillance using a Dr. Seuss story about bees, arguing that constant monitoring—or bossware—fails to accurately capture human productivity and violates personal dignity. He highlights a significant gap in federal protections for workers, noting that while consumer privacy exists in other sectors, professional environments remain largely unregulated. The conversation also challenges the modern, efficiency-focused view of antitrust law. By revisiting the historical origins of the Sherman and Clayton Acts, Bedoya reveals that these laws were originally designed to ensure fairness for farmers, laborers, and small competitors rather than merely maximizing corporate efficiency. Ultimately, the hosts and Bedoya emphasize that establishing strong, baseline privacy laws is essential for fostering a competitive digital world where technology empowers users rather than tracking them.
Updated Mar 26, 2026
About This Episode
This episode was first released on May 2, 2023.
Dr. Seuss wrote a story about a Hawtch-Hawtcher Bee-Watcher whose job it is to watch his town’s one lazy bee, because “a bee that is watched will work harder, you see.” But that doesn’t seem to work, so another Hawtch-Hawtcher is assigned to watch the first, and then another to watch the second... until the whole town is watching each other watch a bee.
To Federal Trade Commissioner Alvaro Bedoya, the story—which long predates the internet—is a great metaphor for why we must be wary of workplace surveillance, and why we need to strengthen our privacy laws. Bedoya has made a career of studying privacy, trust, and competition, and wishes for a world in which we can do, see, and read what we want, living our lives without being held back by our identity, income, faith, or any other attribute. In that world, all our interactions with technology —from social media to job or mortgage applications—are on a level playing field.
Bedoya speaks with EFF’s Cindy Cohn and Jason Kelley about how fixing the internet should allow all people to live their lives with dignity, pride, and purpose.
In this episode, you’ll learn about:
- The nuances of work that “bossware,” employee surveillance technology, can’t catch.
- Why the Health Insurance Portability Accountability Act (HIPAA) isn’t the privacy panacea you might think it is.
- Making sure that one-size-fits-all privacy rules don’t backfire against new entrants and small competitors.
- How antitrust fundamentally is about small competitors and working people, like laborers and farmers, deserving fairness in our economy.
Alvaro Bedoya was nominated by President Joe Biden, confirmed by the U.S. Senate, and sworn in May 16, 2022 as a Commissioner of the Federal Trade Commission; his term expires in September 2026. Bedoya was the founding director of the Center on Privacy & Technology at Georgetown University Law Center, where he was also a visiting professor of law. He has been influential in research and policy at the intersection of privacy and civil rights, and co-authored a 2016 report on the use of facial recognition by law enforcement and the risks that it poses. He previously served as the first Chief Counsel to the Senate Judiciary Subcommittee on Privacy, Technology and the Law after its founding in 2011, and as Chief Counsel to former U.S. Sen. Al Franken (D-MN); earlier, he was an associate at the law firm WilmerHale. A naturalized immigrant born in Peru and raised in upstate New York, Bedoya previously co-founded the Esperanza Education Fund, a college scholarship for immigrant students in the District of Columbia, Maryland, and Virginia. He also served on the Board of Directors of the Hispanic Bar Association of the District of Columbia. He graduated summa cum laude from Harvard College and holds a J.D. from Yale Law School, where he served on the Yale Law Journal and received the Paul & Daisy Soros Fellowship for New Americans.
This podcast is supported by the Alfred P. Sloan Foundation's Program in Public Understanding of Science and Technology.
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