Societal Expectations in Relationships

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Okay. because you remember that fourteen million dollars pool jge that the president was doing Yep to paint the bottom of it in American flag blue He just hired the guys who redid his pool at Bedminster, I guess, for this COIid government contract. fourourteen million dollars And it's already covered in algae, but here this is the kicker. So to fix the algae bloom, right Federal workers were pouring Gobbs of hydrogen peroxide in anool Do you know what happens to hydrogen peroxide in UV, sunlight and water. Tell me, it breaks down into nothing. It literally breaks It is a chemical reaction. It is like a thing you learn and the UV, the UV itself expedites that reaction Did you see the aerial of what the pool looks like now? It's like an aura ring because the inside is still green as green can be, but there's like a faint rim of blue around green. And my favorite is the new meaning of MGa Uhuh. make algae green again. Make American make algae green again for sure. Also, you know, it kind of looks like an American mood ring. I just pulled up a picture of That's what I meant. I said Aur, I'm in a mood ring. Yeah, looks like a mood ring and the mood is like, you're cold ry. Today, we round up the latest news from JD Vance's embarrassing book tour. Has he learned how to laugh like a normal human man? Stay tuned. We'll find out. Barry Weiss's next fail upwards and the future of the US Postal Service's independence. Then Meghgan Galey joins to talk sports news from the UFC to the Kicks and the rise of heteropessimism Then of course, Sandy Petty You're listening to Hysteria, the podcast for people who wonder if JD Vance is the only millennial to ever use the phrase boneheed Bone headed. This is something he's trotting out on his book tour. He wrote a new book called Communion Yeah, whatever. And it's about it's a way for him to finesse his like two religious conversions into anything besides just being an opportunist flip flopper, slime Yeah U but he famously wrote in this book. that the time that he said that that America was being taken over by childless cat ladies or Democratic voting base was childless cat ladies was a bone headed thing for him. Bone headed. And then he said it loud. on his appearance on the view promoting his book He did. Anyway, Lisa tell us more about this book. I mean, look, this book is just A reminder that JD's Catholicism is younger than the hysteria podcast. It is younger than the show. just as JD Vance is younger than me if you can't believe that. So much younger than me. But his Catholicism is younger than our podcast and he iss trying to correct the pope on the regg. His chore is really just a Just startling lack of self awareness. Yeah. You know, I mean, he's never been self aware, but this one's really is he is out there, Earon. He is tanned. He has been resurfaced, he is toxed. he's zempicked. But with all this time, has he finally mastered laughing like a normal human being? Let's find out. Let's find out. Okay. Good Goober It's my JD Vance laughing impression. Also, Rachel, our video person who you does incredible work for hysteria and this fucking guy. Rachel did an impersonation of JD Vance's quiet laughter. She was like, he did a lot of quiet laughing and she did an impression of it and it was so funny. It was it was like Yep, yep. no, because he doesn't have a sense of humor, so he doesn't actually know what's funny. He doesn't have a sense of humor and he laughs when he's uncomfortable, which a lot of people do, but if you're going to an uncomfy laugher, you've got to get your laugh good, right? Like I think of America's best laughs. Akeelah Hughes, one of America's best laugh.er. If she laughs when she's uncomfortable, it's like, what a delight But when JD Vance laughs, it's like, what's happening to you? What do you see? anyway? I don't laugh unless I snort And then you know. you're like, I really got a list of that time. Yeah, you do you are a snort laugher. Yeah, he he was on the view. The view was actually kind of contentious It was really interesting. It was like a solid twenty five thirty minute long interview. The ladies came loaded with facts and bar. I mean, Anna Navarro knew more about foreign policy than JD Vanstick. She did. That did. That was funny. And he was trying to kind of be like, yeah, Anna, like youre you're the Republican here, you know, trying to kind of cozy up to her. evenven though Alyssa Sarah is also a Republican she used to work for. But she like worked for pence and she's tried to like distance herself. She's more of a Nicole Wallace type, respectfully. Yeah, where it's like worked for Republicans, but then was like, actually, I am uncomforty with it. Maybe not. Yeah, exactly. I don't trust her. she's got to she's like I trusto. totally but like they held his feet to the fire. L the thing that I was just referencing with Anna Navarro is she's like, you know, President Trump said that, you know, immigration, that all these countries were releasing rapists into our country. And he's like, well, actually Anna she goes, no, actually, that's what Cuba did. However dozens of years ago. She's like, and that's not what happened in Venezuela. And he was just like he's like, we cut to commercial. It was they all had things to say had things to say. And Sarah was the one who was really, really going in on him, right? She was because she really went with the religion and being a Christian and Christian values. And like what do you tell your kids when you hear the president say things like this? She really, she did. And his answers were kind of dogshit Like it was he clearly was trying to look He was trying to be a good sport I think he was trying to get in front of women and be like, Hey, women, check me out. I got a tan now. you know, really did have a tan. I got a friendly beard. This is a friendly beard. It definitely isn't covering my lack of chin. He seems like he's trying to make inroads with female voters or like the views audience, and I think he knows that he's not going skim off that many, but he's got to skim whatever he can skim And Clearly this, you know, he was promoting his book obviously, but he also was attempting to reach out. to a segment of the population that finds him fucking re. Rpellent. Yeah. Repugnant, repellent. all the reps. He's a Republican, repellent, repugnant. I just thought that the if that was his goal, I don't know that he accomplished that. What do you think, Alyisssa? I think if the bar was really low He cleared a low bar. Like I think that he came on, hereere's what he was yesterday He was not combative, and he was affable Right? Like it so I think that Like again, it was with the horrible laughing. Yeah. So I don't think he did a Good job. I would say he was less like menacing than usual Yeah, well because he was he knew that presentation. In presentation. Yeah. I think the Medacing actct would especially not work at the view though. I'm curious right? No, I agree. I'm curious what he's gonna do when he's on a Manosphere adjacent podcast or a Republican Gadfly podcast and they ask him about his appearance on the view because I feel like, you know It's like in everybody play the tough guy til shit pop off type situation. Like he's now that he not in front of the people that are actually mad at him and going to yell at him, he's going to be like, oh yeah, listen guys I just had to calm the bitches down. Yeah, yeah, exactly. But the thing was I thought the hosts of the view did a rememarkably good job. suuperb, none of them lost their composure I think that like, you know, like I mentioned Rachel earlier and Rachel was like, I just can't stand him. And I feel like a lot of women feel like that when they're watching J Joy Beayhart. Yeah, I mean, it's hard for Wh It's hard for me to watch him because he just comes across a so and contrived to me Yeah and slimy and like striving and he really thinks he's slick. And he is because he has pulls one over on a lot of people but not me and not the hosts of the view. So it's difficult to watch him. And I can't imagine what it would be like to sit next to him And I applaud the hosts of the view for not losing their shit. Totally. Well, in having a conversation, look, they have now gotten him to say things to which he'll be held to account for, you know? I mean, he's He went on the view to be like, childless cat ladies, girls, my bad And I give it We should put we should We should take it to the markets. I give it forty eight hours before he backtracks on that. Yeah, he's gonna to come up with a new slur for women' and get married. Most of whom are probably just doing whatever they want all the time and having a great enjoying their personal life, enjoying their free time, live the best lives. I miss having a cat. I can't wait to be a cat lady again. your time will come soon. My time will come. The right cat will come. I'm just waiting for the right one. They do choose you. They do choose you. Okay, so here's another thing about Jie Vance's book which he's promoting. It's kind of rare for vice presidents to publish books while in office. According to expert Joel Goldstein, the last VP to do so was George H.W. Bush. Is JD's publishing whileVP comparable to George H.W. Bush iss, Do they have the same business? Let's say, Aaron, when George HW Bush became Vice president, he had already been director of the CIA, U. S. ambassador to the United Nations RNC chair and he also like led the mission in China before we had established formal diplomatic relations with China. So I would just say George H W. Bush had a lot more to stand on. This is just JD reinventing himself one more time. That's it Yeah and using religion as a way to Which is so gross, whichich is I don't know, man. I'm not Catholic anymore, but I was Catholic, you know, people who listen to the show know, I was raised Catholic. I went to a Catholic university. I was practicing until I was in my mid twenties. Then I stopped practicing, so I'm really bad at it now. But I do I feel like anybody who's like a cradle Catholic like me just kind of follows along with Catholic news and like has an opinion on the Pope, even though it's like, I don't really It is so funny to watch JD Vance be The most convert convert who ever converted. L he is so adult catechism. He's so Onoxious, know it all. Ugh. So Eron, I'm curious because on Wednesday morning, JD Vance was on CBS this morning with his wife, Usa and they were talking about religion. and I'm very curious How you feel about what he had to say. Oh ye, let's watch the clip an interfaith marriage How does it work in day to day life Well it's actually very easy. I mean, one, there's a certain dynamism to it because she comes at things from a different perspective than I do. And so it always leads to very interesting conversations You know just practically, what we've decided to do is raise the kids in the Christian church. We don't want to confuse little kids. Obviously, they can get confused But we also haven't hidden anything about her understanding of the world or her parents, how they think about religious faith. So we've just tried to make it as easy and accessible to the kids as possible while sending them to Christian schools and raising them in the Christian church Our six year old just got baptized a couple of weeks ago, actually, I guess a few weeks ago was Easter Sunday But one of the things that's also interesting about it is because I was raised Protestant, I was raised in a very evangelical tradition And typically, for example, evangelicals, Protestants don't get baptized until they're a little bit older That's been an interesting thing too, because we've elected, it's almost like the fusion of Ujia's perspective and my old evangelical upbringing, we don't baptize the kids when they're young. We let them make that decision when they're older. And so there are all of these like interesting little ways in which it affects the practice of my faith, I think, our relationship It's also just pretty easy, right? It's two people who love each other, two people who usually see the world in very similar ways, but not always. And I think that's true for most marriages and it's made it very fun When you hear all that, What your reaction has just it's not only the his spouse, but as someone who has their own tradition and Your own views of the world and faith Well, I mean, I grew up in this country around people of A range of Christian backgrounds and others as well. I had friends who were Baahai, who were Muslim, who I grew in Southern California, so there were lots of Mormons around as well U so I think having People believe very fundamental things that You are not always perfectly aligned with the way that I think about the world. It's just very comfortable to me And that was true in so many aspects of our relationship from the get go, not just religious ones that it just is of a peiece with our relationship. fine with JD kind of having a different worldview at times and having to express mine and have us come to some kind of compromise or understanding. Okay. So much to say. So much to say first of all, the first time he said we're raising them in the Christian church, I was like, right? Oh was that a slip up? And then he said it again That's like Catholics don't call themselves Christians You know what I mean It is a Christian faith, but you don't say like, oh, I'm going to go to Christian mass or like I gott to go like it's a Christian ceremony at this wedding. you know, we're having we're having the Eucharist at this Christian It's like, no, it's Catholic. It's different than people call themselves Christian generally are of the Protestant persuasion or like evangelical persuasion, not. And I feel like he's that's a little snaky thing he's doing. He's trying to be like, oh, yeah, I'm Christian, but it's like, no, no, no, you're Catholic. Catholicism still freaks out a lot of Right Conservative Christians. But can I just point out one thing? Do you realize they never used the word Hindu? No, they never use Hindu. Never used the word Hindu. She didn't even use the word Hindu and it felt like such a swerve to not use the word that it was intentional, which I think is derangee. She also did not look comfortable. No. She didn't, I mean, and granted, she's very pregnant. She is. and she's like not our friend and not our concern. No I mean, she makes her own choices. She's a grown up It would be very unfeminist of us not to be like, oh, no, she's a victim. It's like, no. She made her choices. She is a smart, powerful woman who know has her own mind and made it up. and this is what she's chosen. But she doesn't look like she's having a good time. Not at all. She's made her bad. just and the tour has only just begun. The tour has only begun. Here's another thing, him being like, yeah, we just baptized our six year old That's not you're supposed to baptize babies in Catholicism. That's like part of the faith. You can't just like, I mean, it's a very dogmatic faith. If you want to free if you want to freelance, there' pllenty of goo to a Unitarian universalist church. L there's plenty of places you can kind of like freelance with that sort of thing, but like Did you also catch it? Did you clock it when he said, you know, because like We're just like letting our kids decide. But you're six. Y kidsids Al also like if there was ever a household where I feel like kids didn't get a vote, it is that one. Yeah. letting the kids decide. I mean, It's one thing to say you're letting the kids decide, but then it's like That has to be, that's what you say about getting their ears pierced. and then that starts at like Right? You know, like if they're six, you're kind of getting the worst of both worlds. L you're not doing what the faith that you've made a deliberate effort to join says you're supposed to do. You're also not really letting the kid choose. It's just kind of like window dressing. I don't know. That sounds like it was come up It sounds like a committee came up with that Yeah, ex that was workshopped. Yeah. that was workshopped. Wow. Okaykay. well more this is going to be what our lives are all summer unless something more interesting happens. I just feel like I put a curse into the world. But Well did you see but did you see the now Mike Pence's book comes out this week or next week? How many trees have to die before we're like enough No I don't know. I don't know, but I was like, oh God, the same week. Publishers usually deconlict that kind of thing. So I think it's funny that Mike Pensces is coming out right about the same time. That is really funny Let's talk about something that isn't that funny. Aen, you love stories about the postal service and I really I appreciate your dedication to it. So than you. because it is important. you know It's important because people are not paying attention and I have just like a weird funny little side story about the USPS. Have you because people there's someone else who I read about who's like me that loves the post office so much Do you know Erin French? She is the cook in Maine? She's the chef in Maine who has this restaurant called The lost kitchen. And it's in Freedom, Maine. And she found out, it's this teeny tiny town and she found out that the local post office was going to close. And so years ago, she decided that the only way you could get a reservation, the lost kitchen, was by sending a postcard As such, twenty to thirty thousand postcards a year now come into their local post office and they saved it. See, I love a post office. Well, Trump is trying to weaponize O post office It's so gross. So earlier this month, the USPS proposed a vague new rule that requires states to compile lists of mail in absentee voters that postal employees can use to screen ballots for eligibility They're giving posts. Okay. Have you ever been to a post? Voter rolls? Yes. Theyt rais. They ain't doing extra stuff. They've got enough to And they shouldn't have to gotot enough to do. But like if you want to make something mad, just go ask a postal employee to like do something annoying. And so what the Trump administration is saying is that if states don't comply, the agency can refuse to send their ballots at all So not only is this really a logistical nightmare, it also certainly aims to suppress the votes of Democrats who are more likely to vote by mail than Republicans The rule is currently open to a thirty day comment period and is expected to be decided sometime in July. So who's making the decision on the rule Well, Eron, here's the weird thing. So again, as Trump continues to gut things, the USPS Board of Governors is an eleven member board. Currently, there are five vacant seats Trump is trying to fill Four sitting governors are two Dems, one GOP, and one independent By law, no more than five governors can be from any one party But we see how bad the math can be here Yeah Well Yeahah, when is the Trump administration ever followed the law? They just nominated Culty to be in Like, whatever. anyway. Yeah. Exactly. But here's the other problem. this board has the power to appoint and remove the postmaster general Well to U. SS postmaster Louis De Joy, who was appointed in may twenty twenty and had been implementing a ten year transformative plan resigned in March So whichever governors Trump confirms will appoint the new postmaster General Yeah. And just like FYI, these governors can serve seven year terms and can be nominated twice. So this doesn't feel good. No, does the postmaster general wear an interesting hat If they don't they should feel like they should. Do it feel like a conductor cap to you C what it feels like to me? Yeah a train conductor. like I don't know why trains is Hold on. I'm looking it up now. They should have a special hat I mean, whoever it is, at the very least, see this is called this is called being a centrist. L I whatver you want, but please, I amm just asking that you give them a central or a special hat Um okay, well, they don't have a hat. U Wh Wh They don't have a hat. They don't have a special hat. But But I am being promised. I am now being served really incredible vintage USPS hats. Ooh, that's fun. Okay. I was actually thinking maybe like a giant foam version of like the mailman cap or like some sort of like mounty cap Yeah, yeah. Jelle it feels its grand. It does. Post important. All right, moving on to another annoying story. Last week, the DOJ approved Paramount's one hundred eleven billion dollars. That just sounds made up. hundred There's not that many dollars. one hundred eleven billion dollars Warner Brothers Discovery acquisition, which will result in CBS, CBS News, CNN, and HBO all living under one parent company. I can't see any problems there. I think it's good New York Post reports that the free press founder, CBS newews editor in chief and fucking guy, Barry Weiss is in the running to expand her editorial oversight to include CNN? No, that makes sense. She's been doing a really good job at CBS. Famous. I just like, I'm like, okay, so that was reported by the post. I can't tell. I'm like, we know the the post is very like right leading, but I'm like, do they hate her? Like arere they outing this so that people get so up in arms that it doesn't happen? It could be that there is a post source or post ally or like somebody that the post likes who thinks that getting this story in the post will get the outcome that they want. Now whether it's getting her promoted or getting the story ridiculed so much that people are like, well, now we can't Fuck, what are we gonna do? Yeah. Alyssa, how is she doing? Seriously, I mean, I was being sarcastic, but like, do we have any numbers? I mean, look, just like cute quick little reminder. according to the Hollywood Reporter, CBS evening news declined by eleven percent in both total viewers and the key twenty five to fifty four demographic during their steepest Bing slump which directly followed changes implemented by Weiss. The advertiser coveted twenty five to fifty four demo plunged by twenty eight percent for the morning show Okay be maybe that's a good thing. Maybe there's a bunch of people between twenty five and fifty four who were watching the morning Sh, the CBS News Morning Show, and thought, you know what I should be doing literally anything else right now. And then they it feels like that's what happened. You' got bad enough that they're like, I gott to get my life together. It's like what have I' been doing? Yeah, I could listen to hysteria I mean, Barry is really a pioneer though. I think it's really impressive that Barry Weiss is proving that extremely mediocre women can fail upward just as well as extremely mediocre men. Dream, big dream. Yeah, she's like the Sally Ride of sucking There's a Sally Ride highway near me, by the way. Do there Really? Yeah, doctor cool. It's just a regular highway, but I felt good on it. I was like, I like her. I mean, she was an amazing, amazing lady. Also she came out in her obituary I know We talked about it, didn't we? I think so. That was like very good. I think that was very chic that she came out in her a bit. Very low key. Very chic and low key. Well, I don't have any faith that Barry Wise can be chic and low key. as she takes charge of CNN, but you know what? I'm thinking of a lot of the journalists at CNN Like your Jake Tappers, like, you know, all of your I cannot imagine They're not going to have it. This is I mean Anderson Cooper. It's like Anderson Cooper just left sixty minutes. He can like are they going to drive him out of CNN to? They're They're all going to get a Scott Pelly moment. It's going to do so well for all of them if they end up having to revolt and like take Becauseuse like I don't know, just the news anchor storm off is just Unmashed. Someone has to do it. Someone has to do it. I think it' be We deserve it If Barry has to take charge of CNN in addition to all the other shit she's in charge of, I mean, it's funny that they're now merging with the parent company of HBO because I was just imagining like Barry Weiss ruining an HBO show, like going into the writer's room and like fucking up. I' like, listen, guys, she showed up at the pit. Yeah, yeah. She's like, stop with this anti backstuff. Yeah, this is too woke. This show is too woke. I mean, we're joking, but honestly that does not s N really.oo far fetched because the Ellisons are just letting her go everywhere She's like got an all access pass to fucking everything up. So all right, we're gonna take a quick break when we come back, Meghgan Galey joins for more news. Hysteria is brought to you by Fatty fifteen. You know how everyone loves dolphins? Here's another reason to love our flippered friends. They've helped unlock a core secret to healthy aging for all. 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We're really excited to have one of our podcast bestesties, I guess. She's been part of the show since twenty eighteen older than JD Vance's Catholicism, Meghgan Galey. thank you for joining us today. Thank you. You know I'm always excited to come when it's sports Week.. I get a feeling that it's kind of like sports summer. Like There are so many stories in the news that are directly related politics that are directly related to current events that are in and of sports So good. Yeah is because summer is usually, you know, there's no NFL. The NBA just ended. It's sort of considered the quote unquote off season for die hard fans But we are getting a lot of sports content, and I do think the heavens have sent it because we do need it. Yeah, we do need some circuses because the bread's gotten too expensive, right. Alyssa, I really I know you're a huge UFC fan. Thank you so much. You're always than you so much UFC and your favorite guys in it. You're always talking about those guys. Can you tell us a little bit about the UFCice P see fight that left posted on the south laawn of the motherfucking White House, whichich was not not Donald Trump's eightieth birthday partarty. Well, Trump said the event was perfect and UFC CEO Dana White said it was amazing, but will never happen again. Okay, that sounds amazing Oh, that sounds like me after a date when I was twenty seven. Yeah. after Cliff took me to Senior Frogs in the village. That sounds better than UFC on the lawn honestly.. Well I would say yes, because this UFC fight was extremely gross county fair vibes and I love a county fair, but this was There were no charming farm animals. There was no midway lined with fried dough or four each milkshakes. This is the literal and figurative swamp. Booming music, bright lights, and I can only assume loads of mosquitoes after it rained. because it did. Oh yeah, that's right. Oh God, imagine the sh. I imagine how gross What if you what if you wore like Republican heel? like say they did. There are pictures of like women in sleeveless because it's DC. it's hot out, but like every time I was watching this for the week when I was watching the weather forecast I was like, I lived in DC, they're going to be mosquitoes. Yeah. So I hope everyone's got their calomine lotion. But you know, Zach Brown was there. He sang the national anthem. Joe Rogan conducted in ring interviews, even though he said this was a bad idea of an event on his podcast And one of the champions of the nice, Josh Hokett Huk. I don't know how you say it because I don't care, ended his victory speech with a extremely transphobic slur about Michelle Obama. ten out of ten in perfect perfect use of the south lawn. which just because you guys know I havecial I have the special place in my heart for the way that I think things should be used. So let me just talk about some of the more, I don't know, special ways. and there's one that I think Erin is particularly going feel fond about. So previously, South Lawn used for the egg roll since eighteen seventy eight, state dinners like the one hosted for the US centennial in nineteen seventy six George H W. Bush frequently hosted Tball on the lawn, turning it into a baseball diamond. For little leagers, particularly children of active duty military personnel , President Carter hosted the signing of the Camp David Peace Accords with the Egyptians and Israelis, which is so weird because Trump is signing his Irrand deal like remotely. And Aaron, this one is for you Okay. During World War O, President Woodrow Wilson brought a flock of forty eight Tropeshire sheep to act as natural lawnmowers to save on manpower and their wool was later auctioned off raising more than fifty thousand dollars for the Red Cross W effort. I are fun. These are greatreat ideas. Also like the sheep thing. Do you know, Alyssa, have I shared with you that's my dream. Like the more the older I get, the more I'm like, I am turning into my father in certain ways. And it's kind of my dream to be like urban adjacent farmer But like I' like killing the animals. No, I don't know. I don't want to breed them necessarily. I just want to like have them. and one way to have an animal and just keep it alive is to have like mercenary sheep You just have a flock and you're like, Hey, you got a vacant lot, you want my sheep to eat or goats or whatever. I would love to have a flock of mercenary sheep. I think it'd be so fun. I do know a goat farmer. Okay veryer close with him. They make cheese They mk. Do the goats get stuck up on the roof? Be I have a friend here and her goats always end up on her roof. I her, I was in a high school play with a goat liveo goat, Yes, live goats. And we were wearing straw hats as part of our costume and that was a tough combination come opening night. we did eat our hats and then poop all over the stage Win That's amazing Oh, wow. Okaykay, great. Well, see, but Trump didn't do any of that. He could have done all these cool so many things, but he didn't. Is this the worst use of taxay payer money ever? Like I mean, fuck, yes, this is so stupid. I mean, it's just a basket of lies too. because it's also There is no way of actually knowing how much U. S. taxpayers are going to pay for this. Trump says nothing. Trump says no U. S. taxpayers, so the UFC created some entity called like the UFC Freedom two hundred fifty, which was the entity that they put the money into to pay for the event However There's a lot of jiggery pokery here. like lotots of reports that at least like between seven hundred thousand and a million dollars worth of damage was done to the South laawn. Um needs to be repaired? I just don't I don't understand how a lawn can cost that much money. Like as I pointed out a couple of weeks ago, I don't know how much a pool cost, but I thought a pool cost like half a million dollars to install. Well it's really big and they have to replace it with sod. you know that' grass. They're not just taking out the Scott turf builduilder, you know, like I do when I get bad b in my m. And the men across all political leanings love their lawns. Yeah. I mean, Donald Trump probably doesn't care, but I think it's kind of like one of these things that it's so photographed from the back. You know, like if you're if you're on the ellipse side of the White House, that you don't want the fucking it seated with the hay on the top and then you put the sod. You know what I mean? I think straw, I forget if it's hair straw that you put on top of the grass. but it' all feels like the fleecing of America for Donald Trump's eightieth birthday. One thing that I was thinking of, I mean, I didn't watch the fight because I don't I'm you have because we couldn't. It was on Paramount pllus. Oh, we have Paramount pllus. Josh works in film and TV advertising. We got you know what? I actually too Yeah we got them all. but and that was the Ellisons. You know, like it's like we're we're doing monopolies and wild things even not pertaining specifically to the fights themselves. Yes. absolutely. But I't I didn't watch the fights because like I just don't, I don't give a shit, but the thought did occur to me like, Cash This is Cash patel shit. Like overly Where' been? Where has he been? Overly performative corny masculinity is one hundred percent his shit. So where where has he been? Well, Aaron, he's made an appearance so first, okay. on Tuesday morning, Cash Patel announced that the FBI foiled a planned attack on the UFC fight, which by the way, the details of it are kind of scary. According to the affidavit released, there was a plot to target the fight with drones and shooters. A nineteen year old in Ohio has been arrested for his involvement in the planned attack And so Cash once again rushes to Truth Social to post first, which enraged the Secret Service, prompting the deputy director of the Secret Service to say in a press conference, quote, Don't choke on your own smoke. Wait, he posted about it. He posted about this alleged thing. Yeah Okay This investigation about, you know, into the alleged plot maybe I'm a cynic, but it really sounds like the sort of thing the FBI was like trapping like teenagers and queens into planning back in like the post nine hundred eleven It sounded It sounded very entrappy. Like an informant like engaged with a teen was like, Hey, what if we did a terrorism? And the teen is like, yeah, I'd love to do a terrorism Which might be why Secret Service was like, look, we found it, we got it. we don't need to like And Cash was like, no, let me expose this terrorism. So now Secret Service has to explain it. And again, and Eron gets the response that you just gave. Yeah. Now does that have anything to do with this narrative they're pushing about how we really need the ballroom So like next time when we have a UFC fight we gott to have it inside at the ballroom because drones can't fly inside. This All this is all in service of the ballroom and the money that I think Congress still has not approved. No. And for Donaldom. Donald Trump is already spending taxpayer money on the ballroom despite claiming that he hasn't been ingactly. an expose that came out in I believe the Washington Post. Y. That was like, yeah, he's actually he's been spending taxpayer money. when' promising it becausecause it's all a foil now that he added this secure facility underneath the ballroom. That's how you obfuscate the money. Okay, but like, do they just give the president like America's debit card? Like like why does he get to just so he doesn't, he doesn't. But there are agencies that have funds that sometimes run year over year. And so like so I think and listeners don't get mad at me. I think this is close to correct think that the money he has been using is secret service money And when the president tells you This is to make it safer, giveive me some of your money, which of course, secret Svice part of DHS. So Mark Wayne Mullen, it all kind of tracks. I did not watch the UFC event. I am actually, if you follow me on threads fighting with all of its fans,. I didn't even expect to be happening. That was just fun. Why are they mad at you? Because I made a joke about Comedian Nate Bargapsi was photographedes with RFK Jr.. and so it sort of like outed him as being MAGA. And a lot of people are really, really mad at him 'cause they're like, hey, you talk about your kids. There's no way you're MAGa And then his response to that or a response from a source close to him was, no, he was only there because UFC is his favorite sport And so I made a joke that I actually think it's more embarrassing to admit that UFC is your favorite sport. And they are really mad at me. And so I'm currently fighting with them. There were a lot of like ads for it had to do with Trump bas coinage that's invented. So he is he does have this debit card he seems to be using and he is also just inventing new ways to scam people. Yeah. And didn't the fighters get paid in like Trumpp bucks Trump Trump crypto or whatever Trump bucks or Trump dollars like a like Trump coin. Trump coin Trump coin They're digital coupons. They're I owe you one money. You'll definitely get it. I'm really good at paying people. I never stiff people ever All right, well, that was that There you go. I'm an official UFC expert. That happened. Our president is America's oldest birthday boy. and yeah, it sounded like a dumb and tacky event and I hope everybody got bitten by a lot of mosquitoes. right. Megan, I understand there was a basketball thing that happened recently Yes, there was. Now you can hear in my voice that I'm less than thrilled, but I am going to be professional and give you the facts of it despite my leanings, okay? The New York Kicks ended a fifty three year drought and won the NBA championship over the weekend. and even me, a lifelong Kicks hater, and that's for a different episode, can acknowledge that it has brought some much needed joy to not just New Yorkers, but casual sports fans all across the country And while MVP Jalen Brunson, we love him. New York City mayayor, Zohan Mondani, we love him. and Nick suuper fan Spikey, who I'm even okay with, have been the faces of the historic run, looming very closely behind the scenes is Nick's owner and Trump bestie James Dolan Mm. Now Dolan owns the Ks. The New York Rangers, Madison Square Garden and Radio City Music Hall. And how did he get his wealth? How inheritance? Yeah He earned it bootstraps. Exactly. That's why him and Trump they're like, Yeah, we're best friends. Yeah. he pulled himself out of his mom by his bootstraps. So for the last es honestly, has been widely considered one of the worst owners in all of sports, but he changed his meddowing ways in the last few seasons and has been refreshingly hands off focusing on his current pet project owning the Las Vegas Shere. Oh my goere. Jesice. That was a tough thing to learn. And people are honestly like, oh my gosh, if he hadn't open the sphere, there's no way the Kxs would have won. Like it kept him busy with a new toy. That's so That's crazying. Yes. So Trump and Dolan are very close, which is why Dollan invited Trump to take a little nap on national television during game three of the NBA finals Dolan is a super donor of Trump Dolan was married at Mar aago, as was his son, and he is currently trying to get New York's Penn station renamed after Donald Trump Make it stop. No I think that I actually think naming Penn station after Donald Trump is great becausecause Penn station fucking sucks Exactly. But no, but as a New Yorker, we now have Moynahan After the beloved Daniel Patrick Moynahhan, we have Moynahan Station. We're phasing out Penn Station. Penn Station is like if you get off the train and walk the wrong way, then let him have it, much likear. Okay. Don't wck up my Moyneahan station. O vibes in New York City is Penn Station Yes, agree. Even the pigeons are sad there. Much like his bestie, Dolan has also faced allegations of racism and sexual assault. And probably the biggest scandal that has surrounded him recently is his invasive use of facial recognition to keep mies out of Madison Square Garden, he is currently being sued for targeting a transgender woman and adding her to MSG's do not enter list simply because she is transgender. Why o' one woman Well, so they were tracking her very closely down to the minute. They were tracking when she was going to the bathroom where she was sitting and he made a directive and this has come out in court, keep her away. I believe the quote actually was keepe whatever She is from Kicks players So they targeted her because they believed she was trying to cozy up To Ks players Okay Okay, so anyone told Jayen Brunson, super fan, Marishka Hargite, any of this because I feel like she would not be okay. That's the thing that's like, so I have been very publicly anti Nicks and that's just because I'm a pacers fan. I'm not even bringing up James Dolan. It's just like It's Hatfield and McCoy's. We It's not good. If you don't know what I'm talking about, I highly recommend a documentary called Winning Time. It's a hoot and a half. and like that's why a lot of people don't necessarily like the Kicks is because of this guy. I mean, like we're talking in the ranks of Jerry Jones I was going to say Sider Jerry Jes owns like it's he's a bad, bad guy. And and you may be wondering like, okay, he owns a sports franchise Are they all bad quote unquote guys And the reality is in the NBA and the NFL and other No, like all billionaires are actually not created equal Right. are there are some owners. I think the Milwaukee Bucks owners are good. Yes. Is that the Lazaries? So it was the Milwaukee Bucks former owners. They no longer own the team, I believe. The Indiana Pacers owner, the Simons. They buil, The Simons are good people. And they build democracy. Yeah. they do Steve Bamer, billionaire, built his own stadium, self financed it. His wife is a mega mega Democratic donor and he himself is too. And Arthur Blank, who owns the Atlanta Falcons, also leans Democrat donates that way. So that's just like a sampling U James Dolan is not going to have to sell the team. At one point there were like murmurs of that Now that they've won, there's no way that's happening. but I do think it's important to at least know where the money is going to. Yeah. I mean I think that's so it's such a complicated question to I mean, as a sports fan, have you ever, Meghgan had to like with your support of a team because you were just like, I just cannot get behind what the front office and management is and who they are I have been very blessed as an Indianapolis fan, not with championships, but with good owners. Jim Urse Rest in Peace was a massive advocate for mental health and gave the team to his three daughters. And so the NFL team that I root for is run by three women now The Simons own the Pacers. I'm also a Dodgers fan and the Dodgers ownership is tricky, tricky is owns the prisons that Iice detainees are being sent to. considering the fan base of the Dodgers and like it is so Woven into LA Mexican American culture Latino culture in LA. like, oh Godd. that's really that's problematic. That's troublesome. And they are like Magic Johnson also owns a stake in the Dodgers. likeike a lot of teams are owned by a lot of different people, but I know And I have talked to people who are massive Dodgers fans who are like, yeah, I'm not going to a game this year. No It's probably gotten too expensive. and being like I't want I don't want my money to go there. And so And this came up a lot during the Super Bowl where people were like, root for the Seahawks. they have a female owner who does not like Trump. So I always think it's like if you're on the fence, if you're a casual fan go at least to who the owner are and that can give you something to root for Okay, well that is yeah. because sports are tough because I think that there's always somebody big behind the scenes and a lot of times the big person is bad U A really good example of that international soccerball. We're going to call it soccer because that's what it's called in America. But I respect calling if it makes more sense to be called football Okay. so the US is currently co hosting the Men's World Cup with Canada and Mexico, but amidst immigration crackdowns and travel bans, it is not the friendliest time for the US to be hosting people from all over the world. Al Jazeera reported that top Somali football ref Omar Artan was denied entry into the US despite being sent to officiate games Oh, Iraqi striker Ayman Hussein had his phone inspected and was detained for nearly seven hours before being allowed into the country. And the team photographer had a similar experience, but was denied access altogether The entire Iranian squad was not granted visas until ten days before their first match, and several members of the support team were denied visas. Iran's base camp was also relocated from Arizona to Tijuana despite their first three games all being in the US. That's insane. I know, and the team is permitted to enter the US the day before each match, but ordered to leave immediately after. The fans are struggling to cheer on their teams as well. According to data analysis from the BBC f over a quarter of the participating countries are facing travel bans, tighter restrictions or high visa rejection rates. Countries have set up their home bases in different cities, and this is a fun storyly. Algeria landed at a double tree in Lawrence, Kansas. and this city is like obsessed with the Algerian soccer team now. They're showing up to their workouts and cheering them on and cheering for them in games and stuff I just want to remind listeners, I've seen a lot of stuff online that's like, oh my gosh, this is Kansas. Oh in Kansas. it's okay. Lawrence Kansas is a college town Yeah, that is a blue s. Lauren Kans, I was just gonna say, Lawrence as like political, when we have done events for multiple presidentials, Lawrence Kansas, always super friendly, always good vibes. Lawrence is the Austin of Kansas. It is. That's a great That's great. We've lost Austin a bit of Yeah, that's few years Lauren. I' go back to the UFC story. Okay. Laurnce is the Madison of Kansas. Y It is. It's the Madison of Kansas, for sure. Meghgan, what are your thoughts on how the World Cup is playing globally? Like what's the good? what's the bad? what's the ugly I love seeing the uniforms. I love seeing the hunks I love like learning about different cultures. I mean, theres there's all of the sort of pros that the Olympics has too of just like, oh my gosh, the world can come together for a greater cause, which is football. And And at the background of it is we as a country are not great hosts because of political climate. and I think similarly with the Olympics, the will body in the International Olympic Committee and in FIFA are extremely corrupt. And so it's not that different than this Dolan thing. going, yes, I'm gonna celebrate this soccer. I wanna see the Cousel team dance for the rest of my life. L there's genuine beauty happening in it. I'm so glad they expanded to allow for more teams and now smaller countries are involved And if there is a way to support the World Cup while also going FIFA is evil, then that's probably where I fall M. Yeah. I mean, there have been some issues too with with cities expecting hotels to fill up Yeah and then the hotels not f up Alyssa, as someone who has planned giant events or helped you coordinate giant events, is this a failure in planning or a failure in execution? Well, I think it's a little bit of everything. I think that the US has made our country not hospitable. And so are you going to spend thousands of dollars on a trip here to watch something if you don't live here and potentially be detained, potentially not be able to get in Guess what? You reap what you sew. and I think that that's what's happened. But my personal My personal interaction with the World Cup is I cannot get enough of little kids in the jerseys.. Oh, they're so cute. Did you see the little boy? I can't even handle it. There was a little choir of children in Mexico who were singing and they all had their jersey on Meghgan, I know you know what I'm gonna to say. And there was this little boy who didn't have a jersey and he wore his Christmas jumper was the same colors and The Mexican team saw it and they presented him personally with a little with a little What do they call it? uniform? A little kid. k. Yes, a little kid. And I was so anyway, once I clicked on that, now I just get kids getting jerseys or I get fathers being gifted tickets for Fog today.. That's whyire. But all of this like heartwarming content, the Lawrence, Kansas, the kids in the jerseys, the little choirs, the kids holding hands with the athletes the field All of these moments do obscure entity that is pretty bad FIFA. So Meghgan, can you explain to listeners why FIFA is bad Oh my gosh, that's a loaded question. I mean, FIFA is corrupt to its core. Do not care about anything outside of money. In twenty eighteen The World Cup was held in Russia. And now eight years later, Russia is not even allowed to participate in it. Now, there has been a war that transpired during that time, but the sanctions from the UN against Vladimir Putin were Absolutely well documented in twenty eighteen and FIFA said, yeah, let's go ahead and do it anyways. extxtremely racist, extremely misogynistic. And and you could buy them with any amount of money Mhm I mean, that's why it was in Qatar. like L World Cup and they had to play games at weird times and stuff. because it was so fucking hot. Yeah. And they also they awarded Donald Trump a peace prize This was before they did, that's right. This was before he took us into war in Iran. So they also, like the sanctity of the game in in twenty fifteen, there were dozens of top FIFA officials who were indicted for racketeering, wire fraud, and money laundering Well, and Megan, isn't it and you tell me if I'm wrong, but isn't FIFA, it's structured, right? It's a Swiss association. It almost operates like a club, not a global corporation So there's like there are no shareholders.'s like there's like no oversight of the organization, which is like how it gets so corrupt. Yes, absolutely. you I think there's a lot to be said about how gambling has sort of blurred minds across every sports. And FIFA is like, oh, we've been doing that for decades. Like they've been gambling and committing crimes within their own organization Rampant. Yeah And meanwhile, everybody is they have all these emotions that they've like stirred up around the actual thing that is giving them money, which kind of sports washes what they're really up to. I think a major issue that applies to every single person though, is that prrices are insane R. And so yes, we want to see the little kids and we want to We're talking four thousand five thousand dollars. And this also happened with the Nicks. There is a massive price gouging issue. I know I keep seeing people call on Congress to do something about it, but games are not full And the biggest sporting event in the world ever. Like more people watch the World Cup than anything else. And then you look at these stadiums and you're like, why aren't they filled with people? And it's because people simply can't afford to go. And I do think just across sports and live events in general, we've got to create a section That is for Die H fans in the way that they do a student section university It's crazy that they charge so much for these tickets because Part of what is schemy and gross about FIFA is like how much leverage they put on host countries and cities and like demanding local tax laws be overturned and tax exemptions. And so it's like Nobody's really like fucked up. Like, How much is enough? Yeah, they come in they're like bad house gusts, I think. Yeah. They come in, they use all your shit, they leave a big mess. they leave the toilet clogged and then they're likeome. Yeah, you're use unsafe labor. yeah, they cut every single corner and then are like, you need to give us a bunch of money. Yeah. I mean, it's very American. It is very American Yeah, that makes that being said, I am still going to keep watching the games because the games themselves so fun to watch. Soccer's amazing. The FIFA is not. I think the overall like theme of this is conscious fandom. To know when you're watching something where the money is going to, who the ruling bodies are, and to make sure your algorithm is mostly kids getting new jerseys right. That's exactly right, Megan. All right, we're going to take a quick break when we come back more hysteria. Hysteria is brought to you by Willie's Remedy. Sometimes I want to take the edge off after a long day, but I know alcohol isn't the right move and certainly can't handle the hangover. 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The New York Times kicked off Pride mononth with a poorly advised article with the headline that was originally being straight is great Actually I want to know What editor wrote that. I really want to know because like that is on the eve of Pride mononth. They later retitled it to There's Nothing Wrong with Wanting Men, which is correct, I guess. The author, Magdalene J Taylor, who is a senior editor at Playboy, muses on why, in her opinion, heteropessimism is, quote, little more than a bad mood about the state of being straight pretty much blames women for blaming men and encourages heteroopptimism Instead. OkayK, so what is heteropessimism? It's a word that I've seen thrown around a lot, especially in light of some pop culture offerings like the film Obsession that has come out recently. It was actually a term that was first popularized by an academic named Asa Ciserin in a twenty nineteen essay. We're just noticing it and talking about it a little bit more now. I've seen it like bubbled up in twenty twenty two. People were talking about it. It's sort of an every two years thing, like the Olympics Here's the definition Sarison defined in his essay. Heteropessimism consists of performative disaffiliations with heterosexuality, usually expressed in the form of regret, embarrassment, or hopelessness about straight experience. Heteropessimism generally has a heavy focus on men as the root of their problem. That these disaffiliations are performative does not mean that they are insincere, but rather that they are rarely accompanied by the actual abandonment of heterosexuality Sure, some heteropessimists act on their beliefs, choosing celibacy or the now largely outmoded option of political lesbianism, yet most stick with heterosexuality even as they judge it to be irredeemable. Even in cells overflowing with heteropessimism stress the involuntary nature of their condition. Okay, so that's heteropessimism. is like straight people being like, this fucking sucks. I hate this And it's mostly women being like, why do men fucking suck? I hate them, but I can't not be attracted to them. This sounds familiar to me. Megan, does it does it feel familiar to you? It absolutely does. I would invite you to come to my monthly book club, and it's mostly pessimism Which like I guess they're saying it's performative in the sense then the three of us are all still married to men despite the fact that we're like men are awful. But like I'm also practicing what I'm preaching. Okay, what does that mean? How are you practicing your heteropessimism? Fighting UFC fans on threads, dragging my husband and dumb things he does in my stand upp deemmanding better bringing up how the bar was exceedingly low. and so the fact that millennial fathers and partners are now doing more around the house than ever before really isn't enough still. Yeah. I mean, this is all kind of bubbling like just below the surface and it's coming up in pop culture right now. likeike I mentioned the film obsession, which is a sort of like nope It is a it's not for Alyssa. You probably don't wan tona see a woman get beaten to a pulp on a steering wheel. spoiler. Absolutely fucking not. Oh my god. Well wonder why we don't like men. No, a woman does it. A woman. Okay, okay. Aity Ally. Yes. She's a girl boss. She girl bosses that murder real bad So Obsession is a little indie horror movie that could. It's like kind of like gen Z coded oror mo It was directed by a twenty six year old. It's been killing it at the box office. It was made for under ten million dollars. And so it's a really encouraging film story because it's like, wow, an original story that got made into a movie that a lot of people are going to watch. And I can practically hear agents calling people to pitch scripts and being like Oh, it's like obsession meets Yeah ye ye. Oh, it's obsession meets succession. Oh, it's obsession meets Game of Thrones, whatever So there are going to be imitators. So this is not going to be the first film that comes out that kind of makes a horror version or a highly dramatized version of one mode of heterosexual relationships. Obsession is a film about a love sick young man who wishes on a magical toy that his dream girl, Nki will love him more than anybody in the world. Now the wish comes true, but in a terrible way, and Nicki basically becomes his romantic slave. She no longer has the ability to say no to him. and she's obsessed with him because he wished for her to love him. And so she's kind of taken over by this entity that like forces her body to perform love to him and also act very weird There are moments in the film where the real Nki is able to talk. like she can express herself and they're very sad because she's kind of like helpelp me. like I was never with you The protagonist Bear is also creeped out by the slave that he accidentally made, but he's told he can't leave her because he did this to her So there's the blood screaming, death, murder, mayhem, et cetera. This Chisted. To me, I thought it was really well constructed. Of course I had like a bit. I had I'm actually kind of a pussy about horror movies. I have to like read the description. I have to read a like detailed synopsis before I watch it because otherwise I'm so scared that I can't appreciate the filmmaking. But like so anyway, so I did have to do that. but What it reminded me of was Right now we're in this age or this time where it feels it's a very heteropessimistic age. Like men are very openly hostile or anti woman, but they also those same men, like the Trumpist MGa type people, also want to force women into dependence on men again. They want to make laws so that it's hard for a woman to be single. so it's hard for a woman to get an education without owing so much money that she's going to be drowning in it forever They want to make it so it's hard for women to not get pregnant or to become unpregnant once they're pregnant, or if they're pregnant to receive proper medical care for things that could happen. To me, obsession feels like a dramatization of like, yeah, men, okay, what if you get what you want? What if you get what if you get the conditions where women need you and cannot leave? Isn't that horrible? And I feel like that's a reflection of sort of the heter pessimism that's like bubbling, but that I've just been seeing a lot of lately. and it kind of is like this men are trash thing and I've seen people blame it for like the falling birth rates. I've seen it being blamed for like lower marriage rates. I read recently that quarter of forty year olds have never been married. In like the early nineteen eighties, it was a single digit percentage. I think it was like six percent of forty year olds like. fifty years ago had not been married and now it's one quarter So Alyssa, I'm gonna to start with you You if you nodded with familiarity when I was defining heteropessimism. Do you consider yourself a heteropessimist? and do you think it's part of a larger trend I mean No I't think I'm heterop has well, I don't know L I love my husband. like I think he's great. You know, I'm glad I married him and I'm glad I met him O than him, do I feel like before I met him that the world was my fucking oyster? Definitely not. Like I'd say that most of the dates and that I went on were trash So I feel, I guess I feel hetero lucky that I met my husband and I can't I guess Maybe I am heteropessimist because it's like we're not for him. Definitely think I'd still be single. Yeah Meghgan, are what are your thoughts? Would you get married again if you weren't with CJ? Absolutely not I wouldn't get married again if it weren't with DK. Oh I can't No. I can't think of a like there's there's no one who I've ever who' who who's caught my eye. likeike there's no Maybe David Beckham. okay? only because he's got a farm with chickens now. Okay, that's it. But like other than that Other than David,es, I guess I am. yes, I would say haderop peesmis. Sorry, back to you Meghgan. Yeah, I am absolutely tro pessist. I mean I go on stage to go I hate men. If all of you die in the way home tonight, I'll be fine. And you know, we're saying it a little in jest, okay? Please don't message me. I have two men to deal with. You have two tiny men I know and I love them and that's actually that's its own horror movie where I'm like, oh my God, I hate men, men hate me. and then I go, well, I created too And so now I got to raise them to be the best boys on earth do hear my peers say they would never get married again. And so maybe that's more of like a marriage pessimism. I do still think heterosexual marriage benefits men much more than it quote unquote benefits women. Now, obviously the point of it is love and partnership and you shouldn't be keeping score Bye People always say you couldn't keep You shouldn't be keeping score because they would lose. And so I sometimes do keep score just so I know that I'm in the winning column. And yeah, I think women are still societally asked to do a lot more than men and given a lot less to do it with. And don't want to Yeah. and don't want to. There's so many things that and again, I'm going to say this, I lucked out with my husband. He really does want to a better job than the expectations of men. and he does. like ninety percent of the time, he does a great job. The other ten percent of the time, I'm like,, like flam shooting out of my head, but he does try and he does a really good job U But here's like an example of him doing something that I was like, oh my God, this is such a relief I don't like planning fucking kids' parties. I don't like it. It is not I don't have very good executive function. I'm not one of those people that like enjoy. My sister in law is so good at planning parties Every party that she's ever planned is just so cute and perfect. And like I love that for her. I love that for her. I don't like it. I don't like it at all. And so as a result, our two year old did not get a first birthday party because I was like, I'm not planning it. I just kind of whatever, the pictures looked good. Well, that got a first she didn't get a first birthday party. She just had like a tiny little family thing with cake or whatever, but she didn't know the difference. She was one.. But this time when she was about to turn two, my husband like really took the lead. I was like, we kind of both were like playing chicken because he doesn't like to plan things either. And he took the lead and actually was like, okay, I'll figure this out and he figured out. He figured out Yeah, like he got all the wheels turning. I had to pick up some supplies. It was truly a team effort, but I didn't have to do the part of it that I hate the most. And he just like made it happen and I realized that exation is on you, you don't realize before you get married as a heteral woman how much programming that your husband has had from society at large or from his own And my in laws are also really, really nice and a cool couple and don't think that they're like crappy. But you just absorb like men just absorb things and absorb expectations. And I think that young women get married and it's like, wait. What do I have to do?? H I think a lot of times too when it comes to children, because I think girls are socialized to take care of children. Like when I gave birth, I had changed one thousand diapers in my life because I'd been a nanny, I'd been a nitter. I helped with my nieces and nephews. I had changed diapers. It was not a new skill. our first son was born, CJ, who is again, exemplary. we're putting all three of our husbands like on an altar that you can't even touch, he was like, I've never changed a diaper. And it's like that's not even his fault. He's just simply never been asked to change a diaper. Yeah Yeah No, that's real. I noticed that too. There were certain things with parenting that I would get frustrated with. where it was like, we've been parents for the exact same amount of time. Why do I know how do this thing?ike it's like having a job and you both have the same start date. It's like, why do I know how to do this and you don't? examxining that, it's like, oh, yeah, because I was I was asked to do it. I know Josh had definitely changed diapers because he's got his youngest sibling is like ten or eleven years younger than him. so he's definitely changed diapers before. But it was like, yeah, there are things that we just were taught. Like little girls are given baby dolls to play with. and things to take care of. and little boys are given like predator toys and dinosaur action figures and they're kind of instructed to like create mayhem and destroy things. And that's like not entirely their fault, but it definitely When you get into a relationship with somebody C. lack skills that you have had drilled into you. for your entire life. It it can be a little bit of a I mean, do you think, do you think Gen Z women are the least the most heterop pessimistic of society. Do you think that they're more heter pessimistic because they're seeing millennial women kind of realize en masse what hetero relationships can do to them I mean I have to tell you, I feel like GX women, no one's talking to us. and I feel like that we may be more heterop pessimistic in the following, that like we have come to the point everyone's starting to go through hasith is either starting perimenopause, is through it, is menopausal. I've learned so much about hormones, which you mothers learned much sooner than I did, which is that from the time I am twelve or thirteen, my hormones fluctuate. Therefore, every day, my body is coping in some way, shape or form with highs and lows And then you start going through it. And you realize you don't have to fucking cope anymore And that you don't and I think it has made my tolerance for if the education had not been it's still way far behind where it should be But the part of me that doesn't care anymore about certain things and doesn't put up with bullshit and doesn't have tolerance for dumb stuff, I embrace it now instead of feeling like I have to go back to this very fluid way that I was before. Do know what I mean? Yeah. And so it's like, that's why I feel at fifty There is no fucking chance I would ever get married again and adapt to anybody. Like there is no way. I am me, I am fine, I am perfect. I love my husband. And like that's it. That's all she wrote for me. That'. If something ever happened to Josh, I would do the Yyisha Rosco thing. Ayisha Rosco, the NPR White House correspondent or reporter who decided to platonically co parent with her best girlfriend. Absolutely. Kaiten Ally walked so everybody could run. I would take many lovers and I would go first to the World Cup and wonder who was available. But yeah, I just I would want independence in my household and then maybe a vibrator and like a roster of two. S there you go. All right. we're gonna take a quick break when we come back, Sanny Petty Hysteria is brought you by smart credit. Here's something most people aren't told about their credit score. It's not just whether you pay your credit cards. When you pay them Yeah, most people didn't realize that But smart credit, I didn't, but smart credit data experts understand how credit bureaus operate. So they created something called best pay down date built around how credit reporting actually works. 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Results vary, cancel anyt timee And welcome back, you listen to Hysteria, the podcast for heteropessimists who nevertheless watch Love Island and can't figure out why Before we get to Sandny Petty some announcements for the class, Gu Crooked Con twenty twenty six is happening november fifth to the seventh in Washington, DC. It's going to be even bigger than last year. And I'm excited to say that we will be there. There'll be more panels across bigger stages, candidate forums, live shows, interviews, organizing events, and tense but cathartic moments between prominent media figures who have yelled at each other on the internet Friends of the pod subscribers get an exclusive discount on the all day event on november seventh in addition to many other perks that we can't wait to tell you about. There are four events total. Go to crookedCon dot com to get your tickets for each and any of them and we can't wait to see you there. All right, Alyssa, Sanity Corner are feeling petty this week? Sanity Corner. Okay. Are you ready? Have you guys heard about the Nun podcast No no Okay, you guys. So the Dominican Sisters have a podcast. It's called Dominican Sisters Open Mike And they are just These Lovely nuns who have a podcast. They were talking about hobbies the other day and one of the nuns was like, I don't have time for a hobby. Hobby' just another thing on my to do list. They talk about playing Ultimate Frisbee I am currently in the middle of episode fifteen, which is deep in the heart of Sienna, a sister's journey from Texas to Tuscany. You guys eat preay love nuns, style These ladies, first of all, the host, fucking ten out of ten, no notes. She's great on Mike. but I do not again Things come up in my feed. I don't know where I found them. The other day it was like, how to survive a nuclear Holocaust. I was like, Okaykay, I'm going to share. This seems like a valuable PSA. But I have ended up with the nuns on my feed and I love them. I listen to them. They're not like when I'm going out for my morning walk, that's not what they're there for. They're there for when I need to wind it down and I'm making dinner. And I'm like, let's hear what the sisters are up to. I just I cannot I cannot recommend if they're on video, you can watch them on YouTube. If you need a pallte cleanser I cannot It's because it's not like I'm not a religious person. so I think that maybe that maybe I love it that much because I'm not a religious person. But I love hearing what they're up to, how they ended up where they are, how they do what they do. It's just, I don't know, I love them. I love them. They're good vibes, they're not preachy. They're just're just delightful. Nuns are heter. pess. Yes. they're sort ofpirational. of just like, listen, they've got one man in their life and they're never gonna to meet him. Sounds great. So anyway, that's it. you guys, I encourage everyone to give them a listen and they're super fun. Okay. Okay. I am feeling petty this week. This is so petty But I've I've just I feel like if you order Indian food or any like soupy Not soupy, but any sort of like saucy gravy bake. I know where you're going with f. go It needs to come with rice. There need It needs to be part of it and you can order it without rice for a discount, but it should just automatically come with rice. I agree because there are so many times when I have, I mean, my husband always makes I'm talking about him a lot this week. L Josh. I know, you guys all know him. He's kind of the rice master of our house. We've got a really good rice cooker. You got me a most p Perfect rice cooker. Oh, yeah, it's Japanese and it sings to you. It sings ye. It's wonderful. Yeah it goes. It's really cute. It does it when it's done. it's great. I just I hate the feeling of like get a takeout order, I get it home, I open it up. Now, I got to totally have the rice cooker to make rice, which is fine, but I'm hungry now, you know? Or on the menu, it should say does not come with rice. Rice not included. Yeah. R I would go so far as to say when a delivery item is does not make it to me I don't simply want to just be refunded for that item. I would also like pain and suffering. because if I believe macaroni and cheese is coming and then macaroni and cheese doesn't come, that's worse than five dollars. Yeah That ises. either send it to me still or you need to give me ten dollars. See, and for me, Megan, when I ordered an egg and cheese When I was in the city last time and it gets to the apartment and it has bacon on it and my husband doesn't eat pork. The recomp doesn't do anything. He doesn't have breakfs now. Like ye. I mean, I have two, but he has nothing. Yeah. Yeah, this petty has evolved because I agree that a messed up delivery should come with more than just a refund.'t I don't want this dollars it's not delivery person'sault either they should face your eyire No. O not get their tips. sorry. Yeahah, no, no exact because it's usually like it's the it's somebody somebody else. somebody else messed up. But anyway, okay. Megan, feeling petty or Sanity corner? A little bit of both. you guys have recommended Widows Bay already? Yes.. So that was gonna to be my Sanny. So my petty is, I saw Steven Spiilberg's new film Disclosure Day is so bad. And Really? Oh my gosh, it is awful. And like my husband, CJ and I we are not leaving the house together very often right now. We have two small children. We coordinate a babysitter. I eat my mom, to watch our children. We had to go late on a Sunday evening when I could have been watching UFC and see this movie and it was so bad that I was laughing And it like almost crosses into sanity because it made me be like, oh, Steven Spielberg fails to. Like filmmaker of all time who is Mr. Alien Man himself made one of the worst movies I've ever seen Oh my God. What was so bad about it? it What was it really? It's I love the cast. I actually think Emily Blunt is good in it. It is so cheesy. Like it is at the spoiler And they wheel out an elderly alien. like and Oh no. Yes. L it's like they bring Winston Churchill out, but he's an alien. And then he whispers something. And then the last line of the movie is Emily Blunt looking at the camera, relaying what the alien said to her. and she just starts and goes Listen Stop. Yeah. Oh That sounds bad. So sad. Cross that one off the list. If you wanna get high over Christmas and watch it with your family and laugh, I could recommend it for that. I mean, Cose encounters is still my mother's favorite movie. Yeah. Yeah. L this. If Have you tried to watch ET recently? I can. It gives me nightmares