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Call eight hundred thirty three four K for Details hoafree event and seven hundred six twenty six to deala for warranty details . But I made myself perfectly clear, But you're a guest to my home. You gotta come to me empty and. I said no guest your presence is presence en no and I already had too much stuff. So how to he d to survey me Welcome to I said No Gifts. I'm Birger Weiniger If you're hearing this, I made it to Burbank. you're here with me in Burbank where Do it in Burbank. What's going on nothing has really happened I mean, not that anything ever happens personally for me in the last few days. I don't have that much But I was on the Patreon recently kind of I was getting into an issue that I feel like needs to go public and it has to do with sauce Sauce should be free. People have started charging for sauce and I think We have to do something about this. The first sauce, at least if I make an order for something that has a sauce, the first sauce should be free I paid a dollar for sauce the other day A dollar It' ridiculous. I know things cost money, but the first sauce should be free. So let's start spreading the word restaurants You're on watch. Um I had a dream last I was speaking of restaurants. ye last night I had a horrible dream where I had to wait longer than usual at a restaurant and it just took all night. It was agony So that's my life right now. saauce and dreams. The Patreon is flourishing. Everybody is headed over there. Join us at patreon dot com slash I said no gifts We just had producer Ellis on an episode, an explosive episode. wouldouldn't you say, Ellis? We're never speaking again. Yeah, there was a lot of fighting. It became physical And the fact that we're still working together is a miracle. But go to I think I already said the URL, we're having Things are happening over there. Things are and you're going to find out. You're going to find out. So I think that's all of my business. Yeah. Yeah sure I think we should get into the episode. I love today's guest. She's back. It's Lacey Moseley He Lacey, welcome back to Is. I know you've we were just talking about this the last time you were on was six years ago. It's just And we were virtual. I to like mail you the gift or something or ha like Oh yeah, you came you got it. And you know, the streets were like empty. It was just like it was hot. It was it was very deep COVID It was like because I think it was I think it just started getting popping at that point. Oh ye. Be like three weeks in I was back to work, so it must have been those first three weeks. But it was one of those times when you could still like get places on time because the people weren't driving as much. Oh my Godd, you could get to Malibu in twenty minutes. We did that all the time. My boyfriend and I would just drive around and go see things in LA. You usually' like that's a It' like six hour trip. Right. And it's literally five miles away. And finally five miles felt like five miles. Right. Like a real reality. Nature was healing. you know, the coyotes took back over Griffith. I just saw a coyote the other day in Griffith Park. I hid from a pack of them. A pack. Yeah, I was in Griffith during CVD and I was hiking air doing the run or whatever. And I started listening to a playlist and it was just getting too good. And then next thing I know I'm like soaking up the sunset and I was like,h, I'm at the top of Griffith at the observatory and it' suset. I need to get down. Oh it's before the vampiireres desnd. I I started getting dark on my descent and then I see these like coyotes come out. Theyith either coyote or dear. Coyote deer we don't know. Both scary in their own way. I come about the brush in his pack and I was like, this would be the most embarrassing dead, like deeath by coyote. So I was just like hid behind of big rocks Oh Yeah, until they passed and then I went down Be ripped apart by coyotes. Oh, painful and embarrassing. Yeah. Everybody's going be at my funer were like if it wasn't for those coyotes. Like what Chest smiled a little peron I do think about that like with an embarrassing death, like the vibe at a funeral. L what is it? I'm often like if I choked to death while I was eating a chicken finger or something What is How are people going to be feeling at the funeral. Yeah I feel like we have to lie in and say I was saving orphans from fire. Like don't tell anybody out I really. Yeah, that's really a terrifying thing for me. When I see a coyote alone though My heart just aches. I feel so sad for them. I just the one I saw yesterday, I was in Griffith Park. It's just like If that was like one degree something else, I probably would try to rescue it, tryry to bring it into my home. They look so hungry and they look so rescue from the coyote. Wh would me rescue it. They look so sad and pathetic. Has there ever been a coyote that looks healthy is the big question. They always look like they're scavenging I mean, that's what they do. Yeah. I don't spend much time looking at them because I start looking at them, they start looking at me and looking at each other. next thing I know, you know, I'm a snack. You know, a cooyote you would scare away That's the thing about coyotes, the only thing that should be scared of them is smaller things. Larger animals they run away from. Really? Yeah, unless they're rabbit or something, but I don't think that happens that often.ome people gu by coyote And there are mountain lions, cougars around these hills. I just saw a video on some local news station of a mountain lion in somebody's backyard, That would be terrifying. Yeah That's in I mean, that's like a seeing of shark or something But mean, I also love that for mountain lions because they're like destroying capitalism. They're like, Ohh, you put up this cute little fist, maybe no one owns anything. Okay When you down, we buine again. Truly. Those in bears, when you see a bear like swimming in someone's pool Yeah, good for you. Right. the bear's less smokey get to swim on. Enjoy it. No one's gonna stop you. He said you can protect forest fires. I'm taking a swim. How How do you feel about paying for sauce Oh, I was thinking about that as you were saying. I need to know if I'm just losing it. I'm so tired of being in this abusive relationship with capitalism because we've gotten to a point where if we don't organize as consumers, which we do from time to time, but we need to organize on petty shit like sauce as well. Y. Because what's happened is like I remember when businesses like I remember Chapolala used to be like coming home we'll give you a free burrito. Now they're like you want extra chicken we gotta count it out you raggedy bitch and this bla be ninety dollars. Like what happened? We used to drive the market and now they're like people are willing to pay for anything because they're desperate. so we're gonna charge you for everything. What do you mean? If sauce comes with the meal, how you going charge for the sauce extra?'m getting something again, a chicken finger The first sauce at the very least Throw one in It shouldn't be like I shouldn't have to put a package together for myself. They're just trying to find another way to nickel and dime us to fucking hell. And if we don't stop them, it's just going to continue to get worse. I mean, R IP to Spirit Airlines, but it was great that Spirit Airlines made basically like a lilaway system because it was cheaper in the beginning, but then once you put they go nickel and dime with every fee okay? unless you're wearing every single article of clothing you need on your person, they will charge you for everything. R Unfortunately, bigger airlines that were providing luxury at higher costs started to look over and be like, oh, if people will accept that, they'll accept anything. That's why Delta said that flights under a certain mileage now aren't gonna get any snacks. You ain't get no business. Is that true not snack. No, domestic flights under a certain mileage. So like LAX to SFO, you're not getting no snacks. I'm sorryhing I'm the amount of money I'm already spending, they're making money. We can see the money they're making Give me a cracker I mean, if we don't stop them, eventually they're gonna be like, Oh, did you want the seatbelt package Yeah that's actually one. I don't care to pay for a seat belelt. Take those out of the plan and I don't need those. Oh no, I've seen what happens if somethingone gets real turbly, He might fly pitch head on the ceiling. I want my seat belt. Oh hold on.old No, they are all chart, even Southwest Airlines is getting into the like pay for everything. where it used to be like the one where I like, you've got some things for free Now they're all We're going to be like laying flat on top of each other. That's what they're going for. Yeah, becauseouthwest used to be like you get in your line and then if you get there early, you can get in whatever seat you want. Now you have to pay for an assigned seat and certain assigned seats cost more, which I never understood. were're all on the same plane. And now like I fly Delta and I'm ready to fight Delta because we went from having You know, economy. And then there was like economy plus with a little as long as you help people get out on the slide. And then there was first. Now we got like economy minus. L there really is like it starts like economy minus, then economy, then economy plus, then first. Right. And maybe something in between that is because there's the like business or first class, that's all kind of muddy now. It's very unclear. How do you feel about first cllass? I love it. I love it. Yeah. I don't fly if the flight is under three hours because it's a waste of money. It's just a wider seed and booze I'm not gonna drink. But if it's cross country, baby, I'm always on a red eye from L.A to New York. I sleep on the plane, get there at JFK at eight AM and ready to start my day That one I can't, I need a bed for that if it's over six hours, babes need a bed. I think first class should be illgal Really? I think unless everybody can have it, nobody should have it like And here's why. if people want to be a little bougier and fall asleep on the plane, like I think they should have that right and I like that better than private jets. You know what I mean? That should be should be experiences you can get and then the private jets should go. except for me because that's my reparation. Jan not going get me forty acres or a mu a bitch. I should be able to put my carbon footprint out here, okay I deserve that. Everyone's against private jets until they can have a private jet and No, but they need to sacrifice. Y'all destroyed the planet, okay? My ancestors but. I think that's f. I deserve to fly around there. Yeah, I think private jets, just that's enough is enough. It's ridiculous. Yeah, and first class, if we got rid of private jets, I might be on board with first cllass still existing. But R right now I'm just walking past everyone in first class being angry at them and just wondering and then going back to my essentially bus seats. Yeah. Well, it used to not be such a bus No I remember as a kid, the seats that they have on like a short domestic flight wereere the size of the seats in regular economy of a person. And you got a meal in economy. Yeah. And it was the size of your body. Now they're like everybody get all ozimipic, othertherwise, I'm not gonna make these flights. Like what do you mean? I feel like the airline industry was every industry is now doing this, but was the first one that was like, No, we're going to get worse rather than get better as an industry. Just year after year, it's going to feel way worse. Truly basically we're paying for sauce. We let airlines do it, and now we're paying for ranch on the side. That's ridiculous. We really should have revolted sooner. And also airlines know that they have us in a choke code in certain situations because are you gonna fly to Berlin or are you would you take a a ferry? you gonna take like't you can't other places. They're like, we got you bit, you going or not Yeah, there's no alternative. I mean, I guess maybe I start going by boat I know The C cruise lines should think about that. inststead of just trapping us on boats, can I just take the boat to just a little party, get on, have my vacation, boat back. I will never get on a cruise line After what's been happening recently You will not find me on a cruise. I've been on more cruises than I can count. Really? My parents are cruise people.. And so my entire childhood, we were it sounds so weird to complain about. O time I was shooting this movie with L Bl. I remember we were like doing something in between and I looked at my phone and I was like,. And he was like, what? And I was like, my parents just booked another family cruise. And he was like, you're upset that your family you on a free boat vacation. And I was like, you don't understand. You haven't had to be trapped in the middle of the Atlantic with a bunch of Trump supporters eating guy Fieri burgers until your ankles fucking swell. You don't know what I'm going through It's a bad vacation on There's a certain way to do it to have a good one. And Virgin cruises, I've heard are very fun because there's no kids. Can't bring your kids. And you know, people like to have boats sexuals and sure.. Yeah excursions. Yeah. I just it's not for me and now the like chance of getting haunt a virus or being trapped on board of a virus What? appeal is there Yeah, it really just seems like the like The disease enthusiasts love a boat ride. Yeah messy people who don't wash their hands. Yeah. It's just open mouth cffers, peopleople who don't wash their hands. People who don't believe in smci. Yes, that's really kind of part of the big audience. Which to me, I'm like, look, if you w to do your own research and you don't wan to vaccinate, that is absolutely your right in your body. Are you a dumbass for sure But let's take it further. If you don't believe in vaccines and you don't believe in the things that doctors have studied, maybe never go to the hospital Because all of a sudden when y'all get sick, I don't never see none of you bitches in the ambulance, likeike what' y'all putting in there? What what is in the drip? Be no, you just wantan to it'll take it. You'll take whatever you can. Yeah like how many species of saline is in there? I need to Google it on red. No, A that point, you like save my life No. So then you believe. You don't get to use it No. I think permanent cruwise for that sort of person.e them on boat. keepe them on boats, keep them away from land, let them just get each other sick for the rest of time. Yeah, what about an anti vax cruise? We'll thr on some walking canes from we' get Pio putut it in iceberg territory and say goodbye. It's enough enough is enough. Yeah, that is kind of a large part of that audience is anti vax slash cruise. Interesting I'm sure there are plenty of wonderful people cruising. Oh, there are. and I've met so many of them. And I'm sure my many tours. It's just not for me Getting haauntedavirus, unfortunately, also not for me. No. So I won't be cruising anytime. And I don't think they're upgrading those boats. I think the cruises are starting to sauce the girls too. I'm sure. BeCause people are on boats talking about they could still smell when the sewage was leaking from COVID. I said, baby, those boats need to be decommissioned. They need to be sank. God, and they could smell theage It in the hallways it was still like a lingering of like, you could tell they cleaned, but something was still because those people had been trapped on those boats for so long and pooping everywhere and stuff. You don't just get rid of that with one shampoo of a carpet. No, no, no. Anyone who's had a dog pee on a rug knows it's much harder to get rid of that smell than you would think.. God. No, no, no, no. I know, but I'm with you on the sauce thing. I think we all need to just start revolting in very petty ways against corporations that are doing things to nickel and dimas. Right. Because there's no such thing as infinite growth. and some of y'all need to be satisfied with the fact that we patronize your businesses consistently and you're open. When will they learn that infinite growth it doesn't exist? I just don't understand when that reality will set for some of these people. It's just like, you realize there are only so many people on the planet. Yeah. What's the plan And that's why I really hope that we can all hold strong. I know there's a ton of idiots out there who can't make art and for some reason think that they should be able to. And they use AI and wastewater for stupid bullshit. But I'm so tired of that AI conversation that's like, it's happening. You either get with it or you get lost.. You know like how rapey that sounds Like you're telling me it's happening L it is happening. I think you're forcing on me and I'm saying no, you're like, it's gonna to happen to you. saying yes. No, you can't do it like that. If it was happening, it would be happening. And y'all would be losing all this goddamn money. We know it's not happening, babe. You can't make fetch happen. Nobody wants it or needs it. Let me ask you this. I run into something for the first time recently that I was very conflicted morally about A loved one sent me What I immediately knew was an AI video and it was kind of like it was like kind of heartwarming or whatever. My initial instinct was to respond, that's AI. I didn't. I don't know what to do in these situations because I'm like, I don't wantanna just be this skill joy that like somebody a loved one was like, look at this, this is nice. And for me to be firing back, that's AI, you idiot. So I don't know what do you just ignore this? Have you had any any situations? time. And you say that's AI? With family members, with friends, I say, o my God, you are killing black people in Memphis Was it worth it to make that fake video so that you could poison communities You know how much water you just wasted it don I' make nothing like this again So, thank you, Auntie, but stop doing this. you are killing black people I literally tell them directly. Wow, that's healthy. That's really healthy. Yeah, but I don't want to be like you're stupid or anything like that. I realize that we are in this polarized place where we are tapped into the news. We're very aware of average. Absolutely. And you know, our friends are tapped into it as well. So I also realize that people are living their lives and they're like, oh, we got a new app where we can make a video of your dad, grandma doing a thinking leg. Everyone's gonna love this. And I'm like I know that you don't realize the repercussions. So I'm not gonna to call you dumb but I am gonna to be like, Hey, stop killing them black people at man. Right. And if black people don't worry, I'm like hey, stop killing aorm in Utah. Oh my god, that's the widest of white That's really hitting home for me. I'm from Utah. Yeah I know Watching all these people be mad about these data centers. I'm like, well you voted for the people who said These could be built. so they for whiteness. Well then and they forgot what whiteness is always exactly. I' like I y all paid attention to America Now now you've got mr. Wonderful Velen. Yeah. I mean, the Utah situation is truly insane to me because I don't know if you're aware of this If the Great Salt Lake dries up, it's going to just basically become a poisonous place. like the air will be poisoned. Yet they're building this data I mean, don't get me sorry. I know we could go on forever. I think ecooterrorism's going ticking up here. I think people are going to be bombing things. But here's a fun way to look at it though. If we all All of us just decide that we're not gonna be here for AI and we let this implode like the tulip bubble that it is, bringing back old school economics. If we let this bite blow up, all these nasty billionaires who did this griff and got all this money for this and celebrities included. whyy do you think you keep seeing random celebrities that you love talking about? AI is the future and we must embrace it Now baby, we must not. how much did you invest? '' give it back You ain't getting it back. So I want to see A people lose all of that money that they invested in this grift. And damn, I wish I would have come up with it because I love a turtck. Oh of course. I love a turtleneck te person. you pulling this off Selling something that people don't need. I love it. Yeah, I think it is going to implode in some way. kind of suffer and then hopefully Well, we won't learn our lesson, but at least it'll go away in some way. And I want somebody to come out and do what Uber did, but in a grassroots way. So remember when Uber first was established their prices were super duper low. You could get like a ride for like three dollars.. So that was tech bros using investor money to subdject the market and kind of undercut the market and then ruin the cab industry. And once some cab drivers start killing themselves and stuff and they ruin the industry, then they raiseed their prices because they had the monopoly. of course I want to see somebody grassroots do that with car driving too. Let's just call it gas money. And if you got money for gas, then you just get in Homy's car. and this is how we drive the Uber prices down. Uber prices are insane now. Yeah It's like buying a flight if you're going to the airport, it's like this is going to like at least twenty five percent of the cost of a flight And don't check more than once it raises the price for you. I't know this. Yes, becausecause now they think you're desperate. So they'll raise the price. Also, if you live in a more affluent zip code, it raises the price for you. Is there any way to around that If you're li in affluent zip code, sorry. Some people have like suggested getting off of your WiFi or you're using a VPN or something. Yeah you're using a VPN. like because all of the data and it's already consumed so much of our cookies and information, but all of that contributes to the profile that you have and how much money they think you have. Also when you're flying to the airport, depending on what airline you're flying out of, it raises the price of your Uber as well. So they're like, oh, you go with Delta interternet Oh, Okay. raise that up real good. They're like, Oh, you going to spirit, okay, well' tried a little bit less. Oh ye diabolical. so evil I'm going to Burbank. I will do everything possible to get the cheapest Uber or lift. I'm going back and forth until they've given me the cheapest possible. If they don't, maybe I just won't go on the trip. I think I'm going to stop putting in the airline when I and see if there's a differe Oh interesting. that's smart. Yeah. don't put the term LAX And then once we're already in the ride and the price is confirmed because I do it to where pay for it before it comes. Oh, interesting. I'm always worried that that's not gonna change the. Right. They could try to add a waiting fee, but typically never do. Okay. I'm gonna start just using it to take me to like maybe four miles away and I'll just walk the distance That's of money saving technique. Right. May people start getting picked up in a different area of code. I'm gonna walk to another zip code 'cause I can see the hood from my house I be a large mobel but I can see He'sllywood. right? I'm going take an U to a bus stop Well, I mean, speaking of inappropriate behavior and just crossing the line Lacey, I was excited to have you here on theod. I'm excited to be here. So it's unfortunate. The podcast is called I said No Gifts. and you've been on the show before. you brought a gift. I thought you had learned your lesson. but Today you showed up holding what appears to be some sort of gift. Yes, I'm so sorry, I'm very hardheed. I did listen and I did bring a gift. Stubbornness, okay. It's not from the placeelessag as with the bag. I'm trying to save the planet. Gorgeous bag though. Thank you. Let's be honest. 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Oh, like a Joanne? Yeah. Michael's. Yeah. Whichever one was is the the non antsie abortion one? Okay, that's hobby Lobby is the one that is pro everything horrible. Yeah. so it was probably I think it might have been Jo Jo Jo's h. Okay, and she's gone now. rest in ch , she's gone Last year, last year we buried her and was buried herough fabrics. She was very sick towards the end. I went in the store and it was absolute chaos. But um Maybe she'll rise again. I don't know. But we just kind of have Michael's now, which is unfortunate. Damn, I hate to see a woman go before m Yeah, it's really a shame. I used to love Joanne. I would go there for I'd buy clothing dye. Yeah, I'd get fabrics. if I was ever doing something creative. Oh yeah. They had everything Wh killed her? Etsy Wites? I just watched an Elizabeth Warren video and she says private equity, whichich makes perfect sense. Private equity pulls up, takes over, and then just destroys everything That's what they do. they tear it apart. They make sure it's bad so it will fall apart And so I didn't realize that Joanne had gotten snatched up. I wonder if there was an original Joanne I wonder if there's some Joanne out there in the world.ose were fabric. Those were her fabrics. This was her legacy. That's my hope. 'Cause you know, sometimes it's not. L when I found out Aunt Jama was never real and people just wanted to feel like a black lady was making their pancakes because they couldn't afford to do that anymore. Wh I found out Uncle Ben wasn't really making that rice It's like finding out about Santa Claus. Right. Who's There's another one U Betty Crocker. Yeah, Betty wasn't doing none of that. What were they doing? What were they doing in the fifties where they're just creating these phony? Well, it was that transition from a lot of people not being able to one like exploit black laborure. Or or housekeepers in general. And so they thought, what how we make like housewives feel good and not lonely? We're put a little person on the package and act like they're cooking for you. And they were on so many qualos. I'm sure they was talking to the box I sure work great Yeah, it's, um Yeah, I don't think we're really I mean, I kind of felt like an early AI, early What's her name? What's the AI actor? Tilly Norwood? Oh yes. I just read about her. I just there was an interview All of this makes me feel so nervous. But in the New York Times, somebody interviewed her But the whole thing was about AI. It wasn't just like a straight interview, but it was like, let's just leave it alone. Yeah Let's just not do this at all. What is anyone getting out of this other than being afraid? Right, no one asks for this. No. we're already miserable as it is. What do you mean come in and take our happiness away? Like, A, I do my dishes. Okay. Yeah, there are certain things where I'm like it didn't if it weren't for the environmental impact I would be happy for it to do certain things. But most of the tasks I would have it do are things that are fairly easy to accomplish or mindless. I'm like maybe I'll just keep doing them right. Th things that are a source of joy for us as human beings, like our creative outlets and things.art That's tough one Oh wish a wedding day. let beat a bride. What do you mean? Like would I would like to do that Do you know what? I think we really handed over too much power when do you remember the trend? everybody was getting like You would like upload a bunch of your pictures and then A I would create all these different styles of art. That was an unfortunate two days in history that I think we said Everybody just take the keys I want to see a horrible piece of art of myself I mean and honestly, the collective narcissism that we have is really killing our country. Like this rugged individualism is murdering us. It's weay to be community. And now everybody wants to go to therapy and some people go to therapy actually to heal. some people go there to like learn therapize language, you know therapy language and then manipulate it use to justify their behavior. Yeah, used to justify their behavior inappropriately've se So much of that when it comes to community. People are to be like, well, these are my boundaries is I don't show up for anyone. I don't help anyone. Don't call me, don't ask me for shit because these are my boundaries. so much. Babes, that's how community works. Sometimes community is inconvenient. Yes. That's a part of consonsidering things outside of yourself Y. Sometimes there's gonna be a baby on a plane becausecause I got a flat little unemployed baby somewhere hate it, but we have to deal with it because it's commun In a moment Honestly, the parent hates it. the person is embarrassed. Like open a parent of water. I don't know mayaybe the baby needed dip pacified a little bourbon. I don't know what we needed to do get through this flight, but like we all should be helping. That's what think the parents having a good time there. Right. They're not making the baby cry. they're not pinching the baby like gras some more, you know Although I will say if I am on a flight with a good baby, I will turn around at the end of the flight and be like, oh my God, you' got a great baby. That baby's got a future. I love that baby. I're like, thank you so much. I like that baby's great. We've gott to support the good babies.. We've gott to encourage good babies, mayaybe other babies will catch on. Yeah. You know I've always wondered about babies in TV shows and movies when they're crying What's happening? How are we getting him to cry? It's the same audio And if you listen audio, carefully, you will notice that. and I'm like waiting for somebody record a new baby crying. But it's always, if you listen to several babies crying, they usually are using the same the baby. It must be free Interest. Yeah, you could just like download it from like sound effects. com or something. Yeah. But what about if because occasionally you see the baby crying. They pinching it? I heard they pinch. They're pinching them. I wanna be done pinching. If they can't let get cry Ininch the baby That's evil. That's evil. I can't say But the babies I've worked with there was no pinching. No pinching, No pinching. They were quiet. Just spraying with a spray bottle or something. I was shocked though. The baby TV pipeline is scary to me because I had to work with a baby and typically you'll have babies that are twins, depending on how long the shot is becausecause you can't a baby's we about the Ols'. Yeah, childild labor laws And I remember working with a baby that was so fresh on single parents, like still had a placentoppererm. I'm like, who we just took this out this lady coac and wrapped it up. And I was like, as a parent, like, why would you give your fresh fresh like when I say hot off the presses baby to a stranger? That I didn't have my whpping cough vaccine. Right. That's not something I was required to have You know what I mean?ike just g me this baby a't got no immune system. Is the casting director hanging out in the NICU unit? or like what's going on? Like how are you finding these parents that are like willing to bring the child like that early? I don't want to unpasturized baby Wow, that's wild. No, I'm very curious about the crying babies and the pinching, but I guess this is something I've talked about with AI on this podcast before, and it's not my idea, and I unfortunately can't credit the person, but they said the only thing that AI should be used for is child acting Oh I think that would be If it wasn't detrimental the environment againes again. Child acting only thing we need it for because children should not be employed. No. I wanted to be a child actor.. Iually let me take as many acting classes as I want all throughout school as long as my grades were good. But I was not allowed to be in that. I've worked with child actors and in my entire career thus far I've only met the parents of one child actor that I thought, well, no, two child actors that I thought were sane people. Right. Yeah, I've met some real wild ones, some real stage parents. And if you've worked as an actor before, it's like it's such a demanding job emotionally and physically, it's like A child doing not educating these kids. They' talking about they get school They're not that. I don't seen that school on set and teaching them their baby favorite color is four. They don't know nothing. No, they're probably doing a word search or you know, they're thring them highlights magaz. It's not real school. And they're also not being socialized in a way that is necessary for the rest of your life. School is important. Y. Yeah. So maybe that's one thing, but I don't know Yeah When it comes to looking your best, beachbum Tanning does it better. Beachbum delivers advanced sun and spray tanning, luxury skincare, and an elevated salon experience designed around you. It's why so many guests trust Beachbum for flawless color and real confidence. And now Beachbum is expanding wellness services to many locations, with red light therapy and infrared sauna, with more on the way. Rcharge your body, refresh your skin, reset your day. Beachbum isn't just tanning, it's full spectrum wellness. Visit beachbum dot com to find a location near you Hey everyone, it's Cal Penn. I'm the host of EarsSay the Audible and IHart Audioobook Club. This week on the podcast. I am sitting down with Ray Porter, the narrator of Andy Weir's audiobook project Hail Mary. Massive sci fi adventure about survival and science. And what happens when you wake up alone very far from Earth I really had to make a decision because I caught myself getting that frog in my throat and starting to get teary as I'm narrating some of these sections. and it's like, okay, yo yeo, yo, is this indulgent? And I really thought about it. I was like, No, at this point it would kind of be betraying the trust the author and the listener have in telling this story if I don't Go through it. There's places in this book that that deeply emotionally affected me And I left it on the mic. That's great 'cause it served the story. People will say like, oh my Godd, I cried at the end. It's like, yeah, dude me too. Listen to Earsay, the Audible and I heart audiobook club On the ArHartt Radio apppp or wherever you get your podcasts Summer is a gift The gift of days that last a little longer, a brighter state of mind So giveift yourself a new Kia at the KIA Summer Sticker sales event, spepecially tacked vehicles including the Sornto, Sportage, Carnival, as well as the Nio Hybrid. all backed by a ten year one hundred thousand mile limited powertrain warranty. So the gift of summer can keep on giving for summers to come. Kia Movement that inspires. Call eight hundred three three threety four Ka for details Hoa Free event and seven hundred sixty twenty six to dealer for warranty details Speaking of television, what's your favorite television show I never get into this sort of conversation on the podcast. I just like to hear about people's favorite things. and maybe not even your most favorite, but what's a show you love Okay, so shows that I rewatch over and over again, thirirty Rock justust because it's an AK forty seven of joes. You can watch it over and over and catch something different. Also, I love a joke that once you read a book or get some context as an adult, you realize what the joke was. totally Like I hate that there's such little media literacy these days that these poor kids, like if it's not spelled out for them, and even if it is, they act like they came to some grand conclusion where I'm used to seeing like parodies of the Odyssey or that are like li into other, you know, things that I've learned. R. I love jokes like that because I feel like the payoff is having knowledge. Yes, of course. I don't need all of my jokes to be like super high. R having some sort of layers to things. Yeah. And Thirty Rock does all of that They do all of it. They do the db jokes, they' do the smartesto.'re gonna get Tracy Morigllan like I saw two babies giving each other a tattoo. They were very drunk. Like you're gonna get jokes like that, but you're also good for jokes that like you really have to have some information to understand. Love modern family as well. canan rewatch that? Sure, sure. What are my other rewatches that I just can put on and enjoy Sometimes I go back to Girls Five Eva. Oh so good. That's a friend of the show. brain. I worked on Kimmy Schmidt. And Meredith Scardino, creator of Girls F Evas one of the all time Alex. Yes. Extremely. Yeah, Th those are all kind of in the thirty rock vein. justust so funny. So Every one of them has just a million jokes. There's nothing like that Yeah, there's like, I mean, I guess there's, um The rise and fall of Reggie Dinkins, which I amm watching. But otherwise, there aren't really shows with a ton of jokes anymore. I know and those are the shows I love to be on. And the rewatchability is crazy. And that's what's so frustrating to me about how disrespected comedy is and continues to be in this industry Like Welfare should have won an Oscar for Talidaya nights. O Hands down, period. It's harder to be funny. It's harder to be funny. It's something you have to be born with and something you have to hone. And also on top of that, the rewatchability of a Comedy over a drama is absolutely fucking insane. How many times are you gonna be like, Hey, y'all I just got some wine and some bllech. I'll pull up. We about to watch twelve years of slave. No, you watch it once, you appreciate it. You have the turn on that fr il, we getting l. You had the. And Tary. Like no. Yeah, that's very true. They're beautiful pieces.. They're important, but they're not something you want to re traumatize around with after you've seen it. Right. That's true of a lot of drama. I can watch dr Boby anytime. Right. If something's got some funniness to it, you' going At least see it wice. A lot of dramas'm like yif, I had it, I've seen it. Ive it. I don't need to go back. I don't need to go back there The only like dramaish TV shows that I'm going back to are anything that Nicole Kimman is in with a bad wig. Oh well the wigs those wigs are rewatchable. If I see Niki Kimman in a lasty bad wig, oh, I'm watching because I know it's gonna be good. She hasn't fail yet. Well n pererfect strangers, The undoing She's in Marlow's got money trouble Money yeah, something like that Yeah. And then what's the u the Big one with Ry Switherspoon. Oh, big little lies. Big little liyes. Now this is something though that I've admitted to on this podcast before. I'm wig blind I can rarely tell if someone's wearing a wig. Wow. So Nicole had me fooled for a really long time I know. Be she had no part. It's something I deal with. was There was no scalp emanating wear. I mean, the fact that I've gotten as far as I have in life having this wig blindness is pretty miraculous. But I truly unless the wig is so egregious I'm like, oh, that's just their hair. But now I know, I mean, can at least with Nicole, I know that it's always a wig Yeah so I can I can at least lie that I know it's a way. I think she needs that and she needs to have her American accent even when it's not necessary. Right Be in the undoing, like that shrip on the Barbie accent was popping out all the time. And I was like, babe, if Hugh Gant isn't this being British, you could definitely just be Australian. She's like, n. Yeah, the American accent's very interesting to me with her. because she never seems American But then she it's like, so where did this woman come from? I think she was this difter. Hawii And then she did have school and stuff in DC for a little while. I'll be in her lord. And then obviously Australia. Like she's been all over so. She has a worldly accent. it's just everything. And do we know what she looks like without a wig Yeah, she does carpasses stuff without her wig. Oh she does. Yeah. I don't know if her wigs might be a character choice for her L like, you know how M look throw some teeth in for no Yeah, it's the teeth. Yeah It's the teet. Anytime you're putting in teeth, you're like o, well. You've ruined the role I it's Meryl though. I was looking like maybe I got them te too, but I also was like Meryl, sure We love the teeth. They're iconic teeth. She could do whatever she was, and I'm here for it. Yeah, I've got to look up no wig, Nicole Kidman. Maybe in the nineties she was doing more non wig work. Yeah the nineties, I feel like she was a little less wiggy. Right. I wonder how much her wigs are costing. bet those I hope they're not expensive. Yeah Yeah becauseuse then yeah, I was thinking everyone thinks that they look terrible. But again for me I think they look like hair What's wrong with meig? I need like a training. They're not the worst wig. Okay. It's just they give us a little wigginess. Who do you think has the worst wig in the business? The worst wig in the business. An men with terrible wigs? O. John Travolta's got a wig, right? Yeah. I mean, it's probably forty seven, but let me think. wigs that I'm like baby please, baby please, why Why would you do this? Like they look flammable. Right And whatnot. I mean, honestly for a little while there Kylie Jinner was wearing really, really bad wigs. Oh, interesteresting. And I've seen her in person. I had to wait on her once when I was well this is back in the day. And she was nice. This's no shadade her. I think she's improved the wig. But back then, it was like a kind of wig that when you saw in person, you wondered if the person had like mental health issues. Interesting Yeah I wonder somebody with that level of money, I'm always like, whyy are you not hiring just somebody who knows buy wig I mean, honestly, access to good wigs is just now being democratized. And it's not a situation where everyone knows a good wigmaker. Right,. the technology is just reaching everybody for row for row. But this is Kylie Jinner we're talking about. Yeah, but it's like to find a real good wigmaker. She's headed to partarty City. She's going to this Halloween spirit. That's probably coming off the rightack probably quality hair, but it's like all about the lace, the part the dye, how it's laid to the scalp, all of these things matter Fascinating, Kylie in J. So is she always in a wig, do you think But I think a lot of people utilize wigs. I utilize wigs, especially as a grown woman now. who doing my hair is trash.. If I can put one on with some spirit gum and sty it a little bit and leave my house like much. Right. R. I just need to maybe actually I kind of like living in this ignorance of just not knowing what a wig. I like that for us. I like it for wig don't know if I need to ye, if I need to wear a wig and I don't got a lot of time, if I need to throw it on Tyler Perry style, just grab it. You know, I know that you're not gonna to judge me. Yeah, hang out with me. Any wig, any wig I will buy unless it's like Even I think even if it was like blue, I think I would be like, well, they've dyed their hair. Yeah, which people do. Yeah, people do it People are doing it more and more dyeing their hair. Yeah, it used to be so taboo. and I love that it's a thing now where it's like you can't discriminate against someone having blue hair in the office place. Like does that distrb them doing their job? Thats. That actually is kind of a new thing that like you can work with a different type of hairstyle. Yeah. I mean because all of those tools of conformity were just under capitalism and adjacation to white supremacy. Like if you're doing your job, like the whole uptight office cubicle, we all have to dress like this, your hair has to look a certain way. was all just oppressive and unnecessary. Anytime I see somebody in a suit going to work, I'm like What horrible job do you have to deal with? You have to get up every day and put on Church clothes. Nightmare. my ultimate nightmare. I mean, I feel like a suit could be a very nice powerful tactic, though. I do feel different when I'm in a suit But to be required? Yeah, that's different. what boring job do you have to do They only give them a Friday. D casual Friday And then you look like a dork. That should be called dork Fridays. I feel like any casual Friday, anybody shows up, they look like a nerd do it Yeah. becausecause most of the people they don't have the wardrobe at that point for casual Friday. They've got a bunch of nice suits. Tue. I don't know, wardrobe for work. I think you should be able to wear whatever you want whenever you want You know sometimes though I feel like a suit can be constrictive in a way that makes people more inclined to do their jobs better. You know what I mean? Dt No one let Lacey be a boss of anyone. This is a cruel manager here T about a little tie around your neck choking you a little bit That reminds you that you're in a capitalist hellscape. If you want to breathe, you better keep working hard, Timothy. You should be working for Ma or something. these horri? Oh, they don't wear that. They wear like hip guy three thousand dollars white tees. Yeah, because meanwhile, they're like doing those like keystroke things where they know that you're like locked to your computer all day. That to me is the worst thing ever. came up with evil where you have to move your mouse, otherwise they think you're not working if you're working from home. And people who hate work from home just are monitoring spirits and need to get friends. Be if the only time that you are conversing with people and interacting with people is at your job, I can almost guarantee that everyone at your job hates you. If you're someone who is an advocate for not working from home, I you look in the mirror and say everyone at your job hates because I promise you, they do. No one wants to be accosted at the water cooler by you No one wants to smell the chilapia in the microwave. Find a friend. Find a friend. See if you can. And a hobby. Anything. ' corkers is not your hobby. or they're not your friend. No, they're not your paid friend. No. No, no, no, no Well, I have my little TV here. I'm excited to see how it actually works. Yes. you have p your turned off. I'm gonna absolutely just glued to this television set. It's too. I don't know a little sounds like Yeah, that's right. I didn't even think about this st.o. Oxcord or I'm not even seeing like a speaker You gotta play it out loud Oh, interesting. Eventually you have so many hooks things hooks into it that the size of a TV. This is about the size of an Apple TV remote. Literally. So on that or something. Well, I think we should play a game. Yes. We're going to play a new game. You're the first person playing this game. Let a deb you. Ellis and I played it on the Patreon recently, but I'm excited to try it and we'll see what happens. I need a number between one and ten from you first seven. Okay, I actually don't need the number, right elust Nope. Yeah, I'm so used to our other games require like a random But I want to give you some time to promote. So promote something. You can watch Scam Godddess, the television show on who. You can buy my books, Scam Godddess wherever you purchase books. and you can also get the audiob book if you would like to hear me read to you about my scam schemes, skpers, jokes, crime, maybe how to do crime or how to avoid it. I don't know, legally speaking. And you can listen to my podcast, Scam Godddess anywhere that you get your podcast Beautifullyomoted. I've been on the podcast. Yes we have. Tice. Yes. We did a fun Christmas episode. We did. back it's been a while. Yeah, we should. I love I love scams. And you're just it's so nice to show up and you just have a buffet of scams to talk about. Yes I don't have to do any research. I just get to learn about scams. And get all your great input, which we love. Yes.. What do I like what do I need to Do you know what I want to promote? And this is not a paid advertisement to be I'm a loving Tubi I get into Tubi I'm telling people the documentary selection on TubI is incredible. I'm so tired of every other streaming service all the documentaries are essentially just true crime. You get on TubI, all kinds of fun things. Yeah. It's chaotic. I think that's what I like about it. You get on there and you're like, I would have never picked any of these things, but they've got interesting choices. Not a paid advertisement to be They're also hilarious. You can watch the worst movies you've ever seen. And there's something about Tubie that when something goes viral, Tubie is the first to make a movie about it. L remember like, I don't know who I married the Resa Tisa story They were like, it was like who the fuck did I marry? Like Tubie came out with like, I marry like something like a boot like they're making the sheen version of television over there and it was so funny to me. And some of their stunts and special effects are just I gott to get into these tub be originals. Oh, I'm very excited about that. Well, we're going to play a game It's called invvite list. and this is what's going to happen. You're going to make an invite list for a party. You only get to have ten people come So I'm going to start reading a list of names. You're going to tell me if the person is invited or not invited until we've got ten people coming to the party. Does that make sense? Yes. Okay. And Ellis is going to keep charge of how many people because I can't do everything All right. So that Perfectly clear, invited or not invited. invvited or not invited Tim Gun Hm, I don't know how long a list is. You gotta be careful. That's the game Not invited. Fran Lieowitz ot invited. Mr. Beast Not invited. These are for different reasons, though, I'm going for a demo.. Friend's great. love her I think she's amazing. Tim, fabulous, beautiful gowns. This is your party. M you can lock me in something. Yeah, and you can reason one way or the other. I'm happy to hear any reasoning. Yeah. mrter Be always trying to put somebody aide gage. private party very you have to be selective here. Rob and thick . Yes, because I feel like he would do something like embarrassing. That's a great reason. You have to have one of those who at every part people. Somebody every get to talk. O And we're all like, ye. Common enemy almost. Malia Obama Of course. Martha Stewart Yes.. Okay, look, she did jail time. She ain't ob L dog. I wan to know some of the tips and tricks in the kitchen. Yes. I bet she would be an incredible time at a party. Yeah. Or she's probably gonna criticize whatever you put together, but whatever. Stanley Tucci. Absolutely. I love Stanley Tucci. Alex Jones No Unless it's like a trap and we're gonna put it like, you know, we're gonna take them across the border. You up been some in the woods? Sarah Michelle Geller Oh No I like her. Glen Powell No, but I like him Serena Williams. Yes Ed Vetter. No, I don't know any. That's why. Beyonce. Of course, please. That's kind of obvious one that'sone. Yeah. Anderson Cooper Yes, I love Andy. This next one's going to be kind of complicated considering another person you've already invited Soalange Absolutely.. But you kind of have to if you've already invited theance. Oh, yes, I know. I want Soangea's aesthetic. You know she's gonna come in a great. I wanted to redecorate my home. Louis G Mangion Absolutely. Charlie XCX Yes, because Robin Thick needs somebody to play with it. All right, and we've hit ten. That's ten. Alice, can you read down the list of the people coming to this party? All right, so Lisy's guests include Robin Thick Malia Obama Martha Stewart Stanley Tucci Serena Williams Beyonce Anderson Cooper. Salange Luigi Mangioni. and Charlie XyX That seems like a decent party. There's people for each time to talk to with common interest. you got good age gaps there, you know, you need drugs, their they'll be there. You know, if you need anything, it's there. Yeah, I think that's gonna be a very good party. Yeah. You were fair that was I felt like you were selective and you were considerate. Yeah Not a bad list Well, you played that game very well. Elis do you have a gift or a curse We have to say if it's a gift or a cursed, why? And then Ellice tells us if we're right or wrong.. All right My gift or curse is game nights Do you want to go or should I go Hm. o go. Okaykay, go going to say that game nights are a gift, okay? And here's why Because the game night gets everyone together. We're doing an activity. I'm extremely competitive. That is going bring out it's going to bring out the worst in me. You know, if you're like in doing a couple's game night, I think it's even better because you get to really see the cracks in the relationship, you know what I mean? Like game night to divorce pipeline and what better way to get it out than realizing that you don't have a partner that you can do charades with. I think game nights and that's entertainment for me. so I'm getting even more entertainment by watching your relationship disintegrate or come together stronger than ever. who knows So I love a game and I think they're super fun. All right, I think game Night's a gift. I absolutely. becausecause you really it's like a really nice way to figure out exactly who everyone is. You can find out if somebody's a total bore, if somebody's an adult who will cheat or get you know, have a fit over losing. An adult who gets really intense, it's like you're able to kind of parse out who's a real friend and who's somebody that you can keep at arm's length. you get play Beause why are you hating 'cause I'm winning? Yes fun hater in a game night. But if I see somebody suulking or getting real upset, then I'm like, ooh, we got you might be a murderer. We gotta get you out the friend group. And you might get to ruin their night, which is such a lovely feeling.ue really Commit to ruining somebody's evening. I think it's a gift. Yes, gift. No, it's a curse. Oh God Ell. I get that invite? I don't know first all, you gotta tell me what games we're playing. Like just general game night. We could be playing settlers of Katan for five hours and I don't want to go to that. What game night are you get inviteited to? Not the right one. Oh no, by. My game night slag, listen, there's different games for different people. I'm whoopping ass on the spades table. They coming And me and my space partner, we got a relationship. If we start fucking out, we start fighting, but it's f. I mean other people playing uno for the beginners, Dominoes, cononnect for, you know, twist it if you freaky, you know? like Oh, butan. No, no, no, no. No, no, no, no. And we're not playing sccrabble either. too slow. And no mononopoly L last time I played that, my cousin, Jermonica cut me. Monopoly is out. I think we've all kind of finally acknowledged Monopoly wor And it's supposed to feel that way because that's how capitalism feels. Yes, It's supposed to feel bad. with it. Oh, interesting. Yes Wheny was created by a woman to show the ills of capitalism and then Hame they stole it. and they were like, this is a fun game and did exactly the oppite. That's why monopoly's not fun on someone has a monopoly because all you're doing is paying out money to and every time you land on board,? Yeah, No, thank you. E us two against one, you're wrong All right, this is the final segment of the podcast. It's called I said No emmails. People are writing into I saidid No gifts at gmail d. com They just have all sorts of questions. We helpope me answer a question? Of course. All right, this is Hi Bridger and guest. My name is Frank and I hate going by the name Frankie. Recently at work, there's been a lot of people who have started calling me Frankie. I have no problem gently correcting them. 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