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Inside Trump's Head

The Daily Beast, Michael Wolff and Joanna Coles

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From Why Trump's Boundless Ego Is Sabotaging Him: WolffJun 10, 2026

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He's created a set of symbols here that are going to hurt him rather than help him Um, he shows up at a at, um at the premier game in New York and gets booed. He destroys the White House environment for his own satisfaction and grift. And the World Cup comes to America. This should be a celebration of nations and instead, it's a polarizing event. all with Donald Trump's name on it Michael Joanne. You are wearing your shirt which or your cardigan, which reminds me of crop circles, even though there is no crop circle on it Um, And as I think I pointed out the last time I wore this, my ten year old daughter says it looks like the Gestapo So I have some sympathy for a poor Graham Platner Not too much sympathy, but a little sympathy. A little sympathy. As a mother of two sons, I can quite believe that he was drunk with his mates in Prague, a foreign country when he got a tattoo and didn't quite understand the symbolism of it. And I'm glad he's had it tattooed over, I think with an animal. Well, let me just say that I know your sons, your quite responsible sons, at least one who has worked for me in the past, and I would find it hard to believe they would end up with a with a tattoo of unknown meanings on their chest Well, I'm glad you say that, but You just never know. you never know, one day at a time with kids, right? All kids. Anyway, as you say, it's Graham Platner's big day, primary in Maine. but I'm still feeling a little crushed last night from the Nicks loss. I will be honest with you. But I was fortunate enough to actually in history with you is now to goingo on twenty five years, I've never heard you once mention the Kicks or any sporting team This season, I've become a fan and had the good fortune to go to the game last night. And what was so interesting first of all Everybody it was a very veryer loud veryery good natured crowd. Apart from when they flashed up Donald Trump's face who was in the Lexus box with Doug Bergam and your friend Steve Wkoff and What was absolutely fascinating was it took forty five minutes extra to get in. They'd sent out tons of warnings. You know, two and a half, three hours allow that extra time for security. We had to line up on West thirty third Street. But then actually once you were through the metal detectors, it was fairly straightforward into the into Madison Square Garden which is constantly touting itself as the world's most famous arena, which I wonder if that's true. I actually think Weembley is probably more famous, but whatever. Let's leave that to one side Not to Americans No posossibly, but they were claiming they were the world's favorite or the world's most famous. And I think Weembley is because soccer is a bigger sport than basketball anyway globally globally. You think the world knows about Weembbley I mean, we know, but maybe the maybe the soccer playing world does and actually let us get to soccer shortly because it's it's obviously on the not only on the sporting agenda, but on the political agenda. We can get to the World Cup. We can get to why Usa Vance and JD Vance are having another baby. We can get to why RFK is failing to show up at work, and you have a very interesting theory about it. We can also Um look at Trump's claims of California voter fraud because we still don't know who's number two interview which is resounding through the through the political ecosystem Kristin Welkare, he stalked out of a Wisconsin barn. It was the most peculiar staging for an interview too. but Oh, and then we have to talk about UFC. We have to talk about Dana White and the tearing up of the White House South law. No, the sports becomes Trump and sports becomes of a certain a political theme right now But what we wasre so curious about last night? So I mean, there was a sort of good natured vibe as everybody was waiting to get in, but there was a sort of low level, God, it's it's so annoying that he's coming. Then there were videos going round of the motorcade coming up Um But when we got into the stadium, which was full of excitement because of the game, not for Trump Um probably the least important of anything or anyone there. They flashed picture of him up in his Lexus box and then And then nobody gave him any mind, noobbody paid him attention. There was a resounding boo when his picture came up at the same time as the national anthem on the kind of big display screens that they have How resounding a pro formaaboo that Trump or a real A real way a wave boo It was a sort of jacked up crowd because everybody was hoping that they were going to win their third U play or final in a row which sadly they almost did, but didn't quite But what was interesting was nobody had any interest in Trump. Nobody cared. It was all about the game. And he didn't try to take advantage of anything. He just happened to be there. It felt like he couldn't have been less important. He was there with the retinue. know so the interesting story to when Trump shows up at these sporting events, which is fairly often is that there's an incredible competition within the White House to be by his side And, you know, I mean, an jockeying for position ing politics, a desperate effort to be with him at any of the sporting events he goes to Well, well, it was just curious because I thought, oh, he's going to feel like he will have a big presence here. It felt like he had zero presence there. It was all about the players. It was really all about Jalen Brunson, the main Kicks player. But it was just an interesting experience. and I was sitting right We were sitting right across the stadium from him. literally it felt like he was in the same seat, but right in a box right across the other side of the stadium, it seemed to have bulletproof glass, I think. So the pictures I took weren't very good. will flash up a couple. But you can see very clearly Doug Bergam won the internal battle to be with him as did Steve Witkoff. And then it looked like maybe Steve Witkoff's son and possibly his wife. Anyway, he made no impression on the crowd other than the initial boo and the boozs were much louder than any kind of cheer he got. And any reaction that you could see on his face when the booze He looked around Absolutely he looks I was taking photos madly. He looked straight ahead and then there was a moment where when the national anthem on he did his salute, which I always feel embarrassed for him when he does that salute because you feel that he doesn't really know what he's doing with it and it just looks as if he's playing president. Yeah Well bone spurs Trump. Yeah, it is one of those moments in which you you see through him because he's the last person you would naturally expect to be saluting anyone Start up your new business now with Shopify Shopify is the commerce platform behind millions of businesses around the world ten percent of all e commerce in the U.S from household names like Alo Yoga and skims to brands just getting started G started with your own design studio W Hundreds of ready to use templates, Shopify helps you build a beautiful online store that matches your brands style. On the backkend Everything lives in one place inventory, payments, analytics. 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And once when I asked him what he would what he would do if weren't if he weren't in politics, if he could do it over again, what's his ideal job? He said as a sports promoter Um, And but so the but the question now at this moment as so much seems to be turning against him Is this sports symbolism also turning against him We have the UFC fight that is being staged for his birthday and for the two hundred fiftieth birthday theoretically of the country, which involves tearing up almost the entire White House grounds, which it certainly seems seems to me is one of those those those things which is which is redounding not at all to his credit, but another piece of his effort highly unpopular effort remake the White House, remake Washington to do what he wants to do when he wants to do it. The pictures of the claw, as it's known, which is a ninety two foot sort of octagonal structure for those who haven't seen it. is I mean hers above the White House, you can see the White House through it. apparently, and I find this absolutely rememarkable, the players are going to come out from the Oval Office. So basically he's turned the White House into a set for Dana White, the CEO of UFC fighting an old friendriend of Trump's, he's endorsed Trump and it's this weird mixed martial arts thing which is supposed to be the fiercest of fighting. And it's just exactly everything that the White House is not for. And then there was a strange quote that gave to Time magazine where he said Life is a gimmick, if you think about it but it's a good gimmick The one thing that life isn't is a gimmick. There are many other things you can do with it. And then I think he said, I actually wrote this quote down twice. He said, You only live once. Yeahah, it's a gimmick, but it's a good gimmick. No, well, I think it's that's you know, that's kind of penetrating. I mean, that is how Donald Trump is has lived his life. Very much so, Donald Trump's politics, very much, that's it Now the interesting thing here is It's a kind of me right right now it seems to me He's living this Marked tension between what he wants to do and what good politics says he should be doing And u And while most politicians, of course, would give in good politics, he is again and again and again insisting on what he wants to do So this is a terrible idea. The UFC fight putting this on in the despoiling the the White House grounds. but He's going to do it anyway. Right. And apparently they're struggling to find people to buy the tickets of various, you know peopleeople in the military have been are dragooned into bringing people. And they've all I think they're being selected for sort of height, so they look all very similar But it's not turned out to be as popular as he thinks, I think. And he also said, it's something that will never happen again. No one will ever have the privilege of doing something like this in front of the White House probably because he's going to tear the White House down at this point. It's going to be very unique. It's going to be amazing. I think it's great for America The frankly that also is just's beyond it's beyond humorous. If he weren't the president, this would be hilarious, but he is ripping up the White House lawn for his horrible, horrible fighting friends. But again, keep your keep your eye on this that he he is doing things which which are fundamentally to his detriment. So why is he doing that? Why would you do this? just and and I mean, I think that the answer is because this is a key part of he of his accomplishment, I can do anything And the fact that and nothing can restrain me, not even the gravitational laws of politics Well, and I'm assuming there's some grift here too. You know, because I mean, he's an investor in the UFC company So this is going to be globally this is global publicity for him on the, you know, and it's supposed to U celebrate the signing of the U the independence independence. What is that So What's happened to me this morning? the because you're British Because you're British, perhaps, you have that get stuck in your throat. I've wiped it out. I've wiped it out. What was it the Declaration which apparently he's now got hanging. Is it in the oval Office? and everybody said to him, you shouldn't have it hanging there because the light is destroying it. So it's behind a curtain. We' go on to this So the other sporting event, the World Cup And and remember, I mean, Trump was once once in the soccer business he own he he sponsored one of the first soccer teams and tried to organize a U S. soccer League and now we're going back thirty five, forty years. So the World Cup, the World Cup is here. He was u very much an advocate to bring it here. and now it has become a a symbol of the immigration issue And and not a positive symbol for Donald Trump as so much. of the immigration The symbolism of immigration has turned against him Right. And of course, because soccer is so popular in the Latino community. and you know it's the most popular game. I mean, it's the most popular game in the world, but it's incredibly popular in South America. So you think of Brazil, you think of Argentina, all of whom have won the World Cup Uruguay. I mean, they produce these incredibly strong teams. and of course, now sales are sluggish because Mark Mullin, Mark Wayne Mullin, who, of course took over at the Department of Homeland Security after Christy Noome was fired Um is saying to people, well, you know, crowds attract criminal behavior. We're looking for criminals. We're going to have a presence at many of these games. So sales have been sluggish. peopleeople are frightened to go. And Let's be clear, the presence is an ice presence. Right. It's an ice presence. Yeah. They're putting people in to look for people. I mean, this is in which is everybody obviously This has occurred to many people. This is a fertile ground for making immigration arrests. Right, it was also a way of destroying destroying the reason to bring the World Cup to America I mean, how is this going to help anybody So much, everything becomes a contradiction in the in the in the the Trump This Trump tension between between what he can do and the other thing that he wants to do and And it all gets jumbled up in in a mess, which is No, it's a total mess. and people are also complaining it's much harder to get a visa to get here. Air prices from Europe and from South America have gone up because of the increase in gas And so it's a sort of triple whammy. You've got expensive flights, hard to get visas, they're messing people around, and they're taking longer apparently. Ticket prices are high and you've got the presence of ice. and even if you're not anxious about being arrested by IC, you don't want to go to a sporting event where IC might be arresting people That's not something that you want. It's a horrible thing to see. you know, it cuts straight through the heart of having a good time at a soccer game. So part part of the Trump has tried to do is impose himself on virtually every aspect of American life or even world life And the problem with that is that if this starts to go wrong, everything then begins to remind everyone is responsible for this. Everything becomes a negative for Donald Trump Well, the other obvious thing to say about any sporting event is that there's a winner and a loser usually. And so I'm sure he's trying to align himself with the winners here. but Some of the reading I've done around the UFC, one of the problems is that a lot of people don't know who the fighters are. There are one or two fighters that everybody knows point about a sort of soccer team or a basketball team is that it's sort of you're a member of a tribe, you're less likely to be a member of a UFC tribe because the fighters are individuals. So it's an interesting Um difference between the audiences too Well I don't exactly see the connection here, but neither of us know anything about sports. I in this discussion So maybe we've we've We've run the course that Donald Trump will be the loser Well, definitely that, but all I would say is it's about the fan base and it turns out But The fan base for something like UFC is different to being a Nicks fan or being a spurs fan, which is something you do for years. And finally when your team makes it to the playoffs there's sort of ecstasy, the city's on edge and the whole thing is very, very exciting. Whereas for UFC, you're just intrigued by certain individual fighters who come and go much faster. and there's no real fan base other than for the sport in the way that baseball or basketball or soccer. Well, as I say, I think we're in over our heads here because I have no idea what that the relevance of that is to Donald Trump. U Um I think it's about winners and losers and he wants to align himself with winners because he sees himself as a winner and he's tired where America's tired of all his winning as he warned us we would be. And my point is just that he's created a set of symbols here that are going to going to hurt him rather than help him. Um, he shows up at a at, um at the premier game in New York and gets booed. He destroys the White House the White House environment for his own satisfaction and grift and the World Cup comes to America and this should be a celebration of nations. and instead, it's a polarizing event all with Donald Trump's name on it Right it does feel a little bit like this is all closing in on him, at least in that moment when he stormed out of The interview with Kristen Welker on NBC's Meet the Press. You have more evidence. There's more evidence than ever presented. Let's talk about your elections in this country more like a third world country. Your elections are crooked and you're crooked. att least the press is crooked. I've given you enough time You ought to straighten out your press because you know what? A country can never be greatvel with a dishon. Listen, we traveled all the way to Wisconsin for the view You know, I I mean, I think that that's partly true, but then the other message and the other takeaway from from kind of incredible display is that This is the way he is with everyone So It appeared, you know, he is a face off with the media, with with with meet the press with him him him being confronted by questions he didn't want to want to answer. And that was a that was a Donald Trump show of force against against Welker and the media. But that's not true. This is literally the way he is with everyone peopleople around him, his aides, friends, family you know, Vance, Rubo, Suzie Wiles. Everybody faces this, that he won't stop talking, that you can't disagree with him, that there really is no debate. It's all insistence. is u that's you saw on that in that interview is what everyone around him sees all of the time or knows that they will see if they if they in any way try to try to challenge him, even try to interrupt him. This is it This is what This is what the White House deals with I am Donald Trump I am right. what I say is And if you say it isn't then you're my enemy and a threat and an agent of the other side. Right So how does that leave us with the warall? Because he can tell usue until he's blue in the face that he's winning, that we've won, that Iran has been obliterated, that you know, whatever, all these hyperbolic. descriptions and yet we know it's not true Yes, well, the dangerous thing here and the anomalous thing is it may not be clear that he knows it isn't true He is what I say goes I want is right This is real in his mind isn't it isn't that he recognizes something has gone wrong, He's miscalculated. It's he has to He has to double back on his tracks. He has to fix something. All of that natural thing,s that's what goes on and goes on in life It certainly goes on in politics is not what goes through his head. And in fact, so back to that other thing of you know, of why is he doing that? Why is he putting the UFC the on the White House lawn when that is obviously a mistake of just a political perception that you would not want But he can't see that can't. I mean, I think actually he may well be incapable of recognizing that anything that he does might have been, might be an error, might be a mistake, might have to be fixed So when he had his spate of of companies going bankrupt. Did he N neverever never never never right. never, not not not in the least actually then Every one of those failures became in his mind an opportunity to for an opportunity for himself And that's the way he would look at these things. Okay, bankruptcy. So what can we get out of that Um Okay, we can those those people will be will be screwed, but but what can we get And then of course, along comes Mark Burnnet and recreates him as America's favorite businessman. Well, it's just it is all and And remember in that, I mean, that's a lie. He's not a he's not a he's not a successful businessman at that point. It's not There's a level. you might say this guy is the most cynical person on Eth, but the other side of that is that he's not cyn. He actually believes it. I mean he has so He so occupies the role he takes on. that um That he doesn't there there there there is no personal questioning So he takes on the role of I am the warrior, I represent the greatest military power in the history of the world And of course I am going to win. Of course we are going to win And when we don't win It isn't It's never, well, that's that's that's wrong. I really misplayed that It's that He actually then continues to think, Yes, we have one Right is a big The reality gap here is Profound and to say the least, alarming and widening. I would say as widening as he gets involved in wars. But I go back to that other thing, which I find completely fascinating. This becomes the the the centerpiece of Trump politics this tension between everything I do is right and the obvious politics that what he does is wrong So maybe he really is remaking politics with his force of personality. No I would say the opposite. I would think it is he is anomalous. No one is like this This is this is This is just the weirdest thing that has ever happened in our politics or any politics. a person who cannot hasasm cannot fathom that there actually is a politics here Instead, he just sees himself, or it's only he who exists. Right And the people who stand, you should see the people who stand around him in the White House. I swear to God they stand there and they are all slack joyed They just don't know how to react to this except to back off. And I've seen this many times, the kind of backing away Well, the backing away or the sucking up. I mean, the sucking up, we've never seen anything quite like it. and I wanted to play clip of Todd Blanche when asked how he feels about being nominated as the attttorney genereral As to whether or not I want this job I did not ask for this job. I love working for President Trump. It's the greatest honor of a lifetime. if President Trump chooses to keep me as acting That's an honor. If he chooses to nominate me, that's an honor. If he chooses to nominate somebody else and I go back to being the dag, that's an honor. If he chooses to nominate somebody else and asks me to go do something else, I will say thank you very much. I love you, sir What was that? What was that Todd Blant, could you have gotten much lower? I love you, sir I love you. I mean, everything's an honor. Every's an honor. What is he talking about? Well Todd Blanch is that is an interesting example of very and this is and I think he is cynical in this or calculated. I can do this This is the opportunity. I will never get an opportunity like this before. am I have been plucked from obscurity and I will be the attorney genereral of the United States of America How am I going to do this? I amm going to do this by the management Donald Trum And remember, he is has spent an enormous amount of time figuring the same thing I can do this, it is all about one thing, not my competence, not my accomplishments, not not my ideology, not my policies, none of this. It's about my ability to manage Donald Trump But nobody can manage Donald Trump. would I was talking to Pp Bahara last week he and I was asking him what he thought about what had happened to Todd Blanche. And he said, does no one remember Jeff Sessions? which of course was his point. that Jeff Sessions, Trump's first attorney general, who then had to promptly recuse himself over the Russian investigation but when he left employee, he couldn't get a job in private industry. He'd lost his Senate seat in Alabama. You know, with Wither Jeff Sessions Absolutely true, but that's not the way people think. Actually, they people think, A, I can do it B there's an opening Um, and, um Um And see they actually they actually look at this and say, yes, some people know how to do this. And in fact, Boris Epstein is a guy Good example I mean, Boris is and has gone through ups and downs with Donald Trump and that net is far and away in a better position than he was when he began Now, what this ultimately means, we don't know. Um, but What it means now is that Todd Blanche may become the attorney general of the United States. and And the way he's going to look at that is whatever happens. if I accomplish that I am far ahead. of of the um of the um of of when I was a in you know, a peripheral partner at Cadwallager Wickersham and Taft, I believe is the law firm Well I wonder if that's true. Certainly he's better known, but I wonder just going back to the example of Jeff Sessions, if that in the end is good for him. So many people have just had their careers slimed by Donald Trump I just I can't imagine that working for him is good for anybody apart from maybe you leave the White House and you join a board or which he might have done anyway. But remember, Jeff Sessions was under the impression that he actually was the attorney general and he actually was an independent political entity he had been a United States Senator, of course. Todd Blanche has the virtue of not believing any of that understanding And remember, the first administration, this was not clear to people, but now It is absolutely clear that they have one job, a singular job, and that is the management of Donald Trump So what does what happens to Todd Blanche eventually? I mean, he's got sort of traditional I guess sort of knitting pattern good looks. He could have a fox show when this all ends because it will end Yeah, I don't what happened? Well, I think it depends how this ends and it's not clear that it does it does end. I mean it actually could end in a tragedy for democracy. And so Banche would be employed from for years to come, but it also may well end in the Donald Trump show leaves Washington, goes back to Mar a Lago. He assumes he reverts to that job being being the king of Mar aago or the once and future president of Mar a Lago gather his people gather around him. There's a lot of money, a lot of griff that's flowing through this this presidency in exile. And Todd Blanche is Reaps millions and millions and millions of dollars. And perhaps he gets a free membership of Maralago. though in fact, he won't, of course, Trump will charge him for the membership of Mar aago U interestnteresting excerpt from JD. Vnce's book where he talks about how They decided to have a fourth child This spoke to me because actually I wish I'd had four children. I have two sons and I would quite like to have had more. I have five children. I recommend I know, well, it's easier for men and and you've had two wives Um Ushervantz had told JD she was so competitive Well I would call it like it white You could have gotten another huspin Yeah, could I though? I'm not sure I could to be honest. Well whatever, I would like to have had four children. so I'm with JD on this. But Usa said that she was well and truly done after three, but then it turned out, according to JD's new book Communion, that They were so moved by Erica Kirk When they were flying back with her after Charlie Kirk, the founder of Turning Point USA, was assassinated in Utah. The Vances accompanied her with Charlie's body back to Arizona where the couple, the Kirks lived And apparently one of the things that Eriica Kirk sobbed to Uchance was that she wished she'd have more children with Charlie. She'd only had two, the kids a little. And that's what inspired Echance to have another child I have no comment on. Um Um It's unlike you. Normally you have comments on everything. you know, this is just these campaign books, these books that politicians write, which I believe there is not one honest word in them I think I think one of the interestnting things is to look at that as the first or one of the first steps in these people, in these guys around Trump trying to position them for what comes next. So that book is not has nothing to do with with the Vance family life and it has all to do with with the next chapter, how he positions himself And there's an interesting piece of positioning that that I think I've detected This We which is there was a So a race in Iowa, the governor's race and a primary in which a in which Trump has supported someone, I think his name is Randy Finchstra. Is that right? I think it is. Yeah, that's right, I think that's right against a candidate by the name of Zach Lawn Um, and the the um Trump's candidate didn't win. The other candidate won. Why did he win Well, he seems to have won because he's a, you know, a health candidate, a diet candidate, an RFK junior candidate, in other words Hes he's the winner in the Iowa Republican primary over the Trump backed candidate. U and the Trump back Candidates is just a very traditional conservative and had relatively straightforward and you might say actually relatively reasonable views on medicine and health and or at least traditional views, whereas Zaclon is is is is a maha representative. They are Just That was the almost the entirety of his campaign and curiously in Iowa against a big agriculture, you know, and contrary to the agra businessus, which has been for so long been a mainstay of Iowa politics That is interesting. And where do we think RFK Jior is not only on this candidate? Well, you know, I think that there was, I mean, he's been very positive on this candidate so interesting positive on a candidate that was opposed by by Donald Trump And then there was really, I think, insightful piece in the Washington Post, which which pointed out that RFK Junior is really not, you know, is is hardly directing the this massive department that he is He's the seecretary of Health and Human Services and barely making a den in the traditional bureaucratic functions of that department and entirely focused on his health. Maha message. So the proposition here may well be They Maha, that that message is is a powerful platform Not Mga It is Maha Um And I mean, I find I find it difficult difficult to believe that that there is that kind of kind of constituency, but I could well be wrong. I mean, and more importantly, I think that's the RFK thesis I am going to get beyond Donald Trump, Eescape Donald Trump. defy Donald Trump even on the basis of this platform Well, that's fascinating. And the Tes, the New York Times had a piece saying that RFK junior is, as you say, still junior at seventy two, is really nowhere to be seen in the department. And it's certain that So I may have been wrong. It's the Times piece rather than the Washington Post piece that that said this. Okay. well Either way, he seems to be missing from the department. And certainly, Dr. Mhmet Oz seems to be a much No I guess ubiquitous face of the Department of Health and Human Services. you see him at the press conferences around howalth things. Obviously he's done things with RFK junior still junior at seventy two. They promoted a hiking video and they wanted us all to go outside and stride around Yellowstone which very much like to be doing right now. But it's definitely true that he's not on the front burner anymore. And I don't know if he's fallen out with Trump, or as you say, he's thinking about how do I use this department not to help American public health, but to create a platform for myself to run for twenty twenty eight? Yeah, and of course, he has been. I mean, there has been somewhat of a if not a falling out a sidelining you know, the anti vax position the White House has determined is not a popular one Um, So that's that's that's an instance of Trump who had aligned himself with that position, but I always thought uncomfortably aligned himself and has now gratefully backed off of this. And and RFK Jior has gotten gotten the memo that he's supposed to shut up about that Right. Well, you have long predicted that Either he or Cash Patel be the next cabinet ministers to fall just reminding people that we've lost four women cabinet ministers and we haven' lost a single man yet Well, eventually, we have to because there will be no women left. That's true. Do you want to talk that this is your opportunity? That was an opening to talk about the Dep state Kabal You mean the deep state that Cash Patel has been investigating and put the DOJ to on Yes. And that's an interesting thing that that Cash Patel who's who's the The FBI director, the FBI is a division of the of the DOJ has stepped forward to actually apparently direct DOJ in the prosecution or the possible prosecutions of of what are are basically Trump Trump enemies or or aspects of the justice, the justice system and people who have contributed to prosecuting or pursuing or investigating Donald Trump What a bunch Do you think that cash patl actually lasts a bit longer because of this probably yes. I think that's a that's a that's a good point. I mean, Cash Patel obviously understands as Todd Blanche has underststand as Boris, Epstein understands as the really true u Syn of fates, Sn of fates. understand that it is all about the management of Donald Trump How do you give Donald Trump what he wants Wow. Well, there was good news that a judge struck down Do you remember the Trump administration decided that they were going to charge people one hundred thousand dollars for the H oneB vis? Lots of people in Silicon Valley come over on NH one B. I have a feeling I came over originally on N H oneB, but it allows guests from other countries or workers from other countries who've got some kind of expertise to come in and work in American companies. And there was absolute panic in Silicon Valley at the idea of having to pay one hundred thousand dollars for all the people they bring in from India, China, everybody, all the kind of tech M extra staff that they need to bring in because they often can't find enough people here. But that's been knocked back by a judge, Judge Sck an Obama appointed judge in Massachusetts, I think. So companies can exhale on their costs of bringing in international staff for the moment. they'll be back. I mean, this is a Stepven Miller thing. I mean, they are there that is a, you know, there's a passionate opposition to H one B visas whichich I think David Sacks when he was head of AI at the White House, he since left spent a lot of time apparently whispering into Trump's. No the technology community ob obviously wants this the anti immigrant constituency within the White House completely opposed to them, would gladly get rid of the entire The entire exception, the entire program Right, But for the Silicon Valley founders, giving him the money for the ballroom or for whatever scam he's got going on is a cheap way to try and influence visa allocation and cheap visa. But the counter to this then will be within the administration. I mean the setting a dollar figure on this And then that was meant not only to make money off of this, but to put a cap these on these visas So the Stephen Miller, I can guarantee is then going back to the drawing board and say we have to get well if we can't put a cap, then we have to get rid of the visas entirely Okay, well, we should watch that space because it's a It's a hugely important one for companies trying to bring in external talent as they are referred to. So do we want a quick drive by and what's happening in California, still no result on who's second in the guubernatorial race there, partly because well, entirely because California takes what seems like weeks to count their votes. No, and Trump has been, you know, this this then plays nicely into Trump's hands. It's a fraud. It's obviously a fraud. Why is it a fraud? Because it takes so long U So the fact that it takes so long is is is because it takes so long, but then that becomes evidence of a fraud, which becomes part of the broader narrative, which he will expand as we go into the midterms I'd like to use this as an opportunity. I have a book recommendation, which a book that comes out today just published today. In fact, I have a here. can I hold You can hold it up. I'm sure the author is going to be thrilled. It's called It's called City on the Edge and it is about California politics, specifically San Francisco politics and the tech industry. I mean, it's a fantastic story over the last bas basically trading chronicling thirty years of the rise of tech power and then the rise of democratic power in San Francisco, which are going is this is timely because Newsom, who is leaving the governor's office, he's term limited and who is clearly being set to run for president as is Kamala Harris, once again running for president So these two forces, tech forces, the tech money and the democratic the rise of these democratic powerhouses will be a story into you know, as we a main story as we approach twenty twenty eight But this book City on the Edge by Jonathan Weber, And I should point out that I've already blurbred this book, but it is fantastic Good, oK, well I will look forward to reading that. I'm going to make a book recommendation next week myself Good. and I should point out I made a mistake in Saturdays podcast, which we corrected right at the end, but for those of you who didn't get to the end, a lot of you wrote in to point out that Xavier Bisera or Javier Bera uh will be California's first Latino governor if he gets elected, which very much looks like he's the front runner at this point. Actually, that honor went to Raldo I think that's how you pronounce it and not very good on Um, on Spanish pronunciations who was actually the first Latino governor one hundred and fifty years ago. And do you want to acknowledge my skepticism of your emphatic insistence that he would be? In my defense A couple of people also said they fell for the misinformation out there. There are a lot of stories out there saying he is the first, but I should have checked And anyway, you just s of the journey was his I should have checked with you and I didn't, you know When we get things wrong, what's really interesting is the audience let us know immediately and there's so many people out there who are so on the ball, A about what we're saying, but B just know an enormous amount about politics. I think I told you that YouTube told us that our audience or told me that our audience was one of the most engaged and articulate audiences out there, which they judge by the comments, which is nice. So okay, we've had a book recommendation, City on the Edge. We have some limericks I'm not terribly good at collecting them. sometometimes I miss them, but we've actually got some very good ones here. This one is from Paul Watson eighty eight zo nine Donald's USA two hundred fifty is looking increasingly shifty. No one wants to sing in a UFC ring or bow before President Grifty I thought that was very good. Gree. Okay.asting Isn't that good President Aty? Yes President Grifty, I thought that was very good. Now this is from Damen Spence. There's an insomniac worm in Trump's head Is it alive or is it dead? Jo Jo taking the floor And Wolfie at the door, will they ever put this disaster to bed Then we've got one called the Orange Moon from Richard Fretchin, which I rather enjoyed this one. There was once an orange faced baboon who thought he could purchase the moon, put a casino up there, way up in the air and be the first one to bankrupt the moon The idea of bankrupting the moon, I thought was fantastic Garfried, you've got a bit of competition Of course we do have one from Garfried and I would be negligent if I didn't read it out. There once was a don with a yen to blunder through hormz again Rhodes said, that's a reference to Ben Rhodes, who we had on the Daily Bes podcast last week. Rhodes said, deals aren't made with a golf Kart brigade. You need brains, not a billionaire pen And talking about pens, I was thinking we should get a pen for inside Trump's head with Trump head and what I've got here, I was inspired because I was given a novelty pen for the Nick, Dick and Paul showow, which is a rather good podcast about tech and about finance and about new ideas. and of course One of the hosts was Nick Bilton. and if if I tip this up, I don't know if you can see it. It's got the three heads of the hosts, but of course, Nick Bilton has, I think had to give up his podcast because he's now trying to tame sixty minutes. Anyway, it made me think that we should get a novelty pen with your head and my head floating around in it. What do you think Yeah, I'll pass All right, well, if you have been, thank you for listening to us, don't forget to subscribe to the Daily Beast Big thanks to our production team, Ryan Murray, John Romero, Rachel Paser, Heather Posaro, and Neil Rosenhouse. So the good news is we have so many bebeast tier members now. There are too many names to read out and we really appreciate your support

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