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I've got And mayaybe we can just do one and we'll see how it goes. done We have done one in the past, it's worked all right. It's very clear that people's least favorite element of the episodes is the fact. they don't they don't like them.'re not they're not true. They're a bit sore they're poorly researched. reallyally badly researched. We don't spend any time on them Exactly Sertain times I do if I can be bothered at this I couldn't even be bothered to lazily Yeah research something today. Yeah. it's a theme today It's the most the thing the most them today them in it in really. Listen No theme, no fact. S what? ass a little treat,' a really short one today But really sure because in light is about to end Well, I don't have fact I'm happy to have been mine No, keep your als. We got to do one. do one. Yeah Okay. Lily, we got to do something, May. that's only because I've got to do something. I mean Well, we got do a nine minute podcast. We've got to do this. We've got to do something. Do you know you said that? Hitler? Do you know that? was it? That was how we got to power. Ly May says we've got to do something. Yeah Should we do an episode of Joan James Facked up. Did you just have to read the script? Oh. Oh I read the script? For your own name, you have to read the script. Oh, Jo and James factacked up. That's crazy. All right, welcome. Oh for that I had to read it, did I? Yeahah? Yeah Oh I just check in what? you know? mean um Joe and James Fected up. That's what we're doing. Yep, let's do it. Jo and James, Joe James, Jo James. Jo and James Fact up! Welcome to Jo and James Fact up Each week we'll be bringing facts to one another. No, not this week.. But we deem each week each you'll be bringing fact to one Jame. One Jame. One Jame. I thought I'd make your name I'd make your name singular as well. One Jame, Ls of James. Yeah, O J. Yeah. And our policy is the more interesting, the more true it is. We'll also dig into the weird things that you'd like to think are true, but don't want to do the research yourself in a segment that we call factact cheheck and So if you do want to send us in your facts Our rem emo is hello at Joe James Pod. com. Our WhatsApp number is zero seven, eight two zero, three four, three, three zero and you can follow us on our socials at Jo and James Pod And also you can watch Full episodes of this bloody podcast on a thing that I like to call YouTube. That's what they're calling it? All you need to do is search Yoube. Joan James Fected up Uh now. Let's get facked up You guys have been sending in some stuff, some pretty facked up stuff for us to discuss I is good. Oh Just read the first line of it. It just says he. Should police start doing ass prrints. That's Jack who got in touch with us on the WhatsApp there. Jack says after're underfunded as it is. I don't think that's not going to help recruitment. I think it would. B I think people would our schools. or our kids, Yeah, all catching serial kills. wouldould have a laugh? Pince Here's a load of famous serial killer' asses. Anyway Jack says afterfternoon chaps, Jack here, routine podcast listener. Mth ago, in one of your early episodes you mentioned toilet etiquette just a bit. You spoke about what the rules are on by the way, I was in the pub yesterday I don't even it's horrendous. There was no effort at all to get the piss anywhere near the toile That's crazy. It's fucking for his light It was really depressing, man And I needed a piss all the way home from the p as well. what your I love to if If that's how you're aiming your piss You shouldn't be allowed to like get behind the wheel of a car. It would it's madness. It's like it'd been easier getting the piss in the Yeah to where it was Anyway, um You mentioned toilet etiquette You spoke about what the rules are on wiping the seats of the toilets before and after use. For example, how much piss is too much piss to wipe off a toilet seat before you bottle it and go somewhere else Oh rightight. Okaykay, sorry. I've mean before you before you lose your nerve and go somewhere. Oh I I thought we was talking about bottling perce Get Anyway ye, I walked into my workplace toilet today and in a seething rage. We have two cubicles, one of which is a broken toilet that wobbles an awful lot. usable but mostly avoided. I entered the other cubicle to drop the kids off Drop the kids at. That's nice. yeah. ye And and there was a liter there was literal poo stains and pubes All all on the toilet seat Wh on the who on the seat? Yeah This is my place of work. Yeah, notot a back street pub. Yeah. Please tell me why a person leaves stains from their sweaty ass on the toilet seat and doesn't seem to think that they should remove it before the next user, especially since the only other toilet is broken. Police should create ass prints as an addition to fingerprints so you can identify these morons. Thanks, Jack I also would argue Um that you probably could use fingerprints as well You could probably yeah, they probably have Yeah unless they're donning. Are they you're putting on if you're putting on a pair of gloves Yeah, but then also putting shit on the seat. Yeah, you are as like But Do the Do the ar have a print It's a really good question Um I don't think it does. It can't have little grooves and stuff of a fingerint. I think that would have come up. I think criminals would well criminals don't generineally generally do crimes. with their ars out. So maybe it's so it's like So if you're doing a crime, you're like do you remember to wear gloves? I did. Yeah. Did you remember to cover your ass? Oh I forgot No Oh I should have worn pants. I'm just are always wear pants just gloves and that's why criminals always wear pants. I mean you see and if you see somebody who is wearing pants That crimal. Yeah. That's a criminal Like they because they're trying to Yeah guarantee that criminals will wear the old pants there. They almost always do And I know whyart Toilet Okay I agree with this, it's terrible. I don't understand how you can get pooh on the seat. That's really bad. Your ass hole is nowhere near Near the sea is nowhere near the seat. I think what's happened is that the toilets, the state of this toilet or this guy's workplace has been getting worse and worse. so that people are now starting to hover over the toilet seat they're taking a shick. So they don't want to touch the toilet seat Yeah. and it's just got away from them it's become a thing, hasn't it? Yeah. But Do you think anyone's gonna same who If you were to see an imprint, you would not be able to tell the difference. I don't think so. I don't think they've got the lines and the grooves of a fingerprint. I think that's why fingerprints they use fingerprints. What about the shape of the anus Hm that might I mean that there would be I think there'd be I think there would be differences, but I don't I don't think there would be a conclusive. I don't think it's one to one whereereas a fingerprint is Is it one to one? isn't it? I think they're unique, aren't they? Even twins? E identical twins. different fingerprints They I like that Lily May's I think you just brushed over I think you too I hadard to say what about the anus? Yeah. Yeah, you did hear that I think that was unrelated. that was I think Lillily May' just on phone call, rightt? Yeah. Yeah. No it's in the script, What about the anus? Um, What was the question really amazer? What do you think if you saw if you saw two if you saw them, would you be would you actually be able to say that's a specific person? Yeah, I don't think so. But what about the anus? which is what we haven't discussed I think that was the sex pistols. That was gonna be their second album Never mind the Bllocks, What about the o U Um, they never got nice split up before they did Yeah. It's a tragedy. Yeah. They had a couple of that had a couple of tracks recorded, but then Yeah, it all fell apart. I mean, I can tell how angry Jack is because he is talking about getting the police He must have been furious. Yeah. I think I'm sure I think this is probably civil court rather than criminal court. I'm not sure you should be sent to prison. I think you should be fined So I think it's more of a warden like it's that kind of thing. You can take the store sample to identify take Yeahah, you could take a store sample. Yeah and take it to that's going to work much better. Isn't it? Obviously if there's some shit there You can use that. Less fun though Less funny, sure. Yeah I mean, I Yeah, it's really difficult because basically just in order to go to the tri if this episode isn't called, what about the anus I'm going to be very, very disappointed Um Also, I'd always assumed that it was basically just men who were rubbish, but Hannah says sometimes she goes into a femle chilice and there's we on the sea. Listen womomen can be Fil Women are filthy. Yeah. But I'd always assumed it was like just a handling problem with the penis. I think nine times out of ten is. I think it's generally. And I do think that I mean It does seem that even that. I honest I just can't imagine the women's to it being worse. I can't imagine it being worse the state I've seen of men's Like more than that you're frombody a w I do like to sit down to we so that there's no, u there's no There's no mistakes Yeah, because even when you're really trying hard to aim sometimes it can get away from you I don't know why men don't sit down to take a piss. Yeah I don't know if there's something no, I do well. There's plenty of There's plenty of stuff wrong with mine G Mind does Like it doesn't it's not as much of a stream as I'd like it to be. Well, I getess situations where It just isn't It's kind of half sealed up. And then then you kind of stuff coming out. And it's still coming out the sides Is that just me? No, it's not just you, it's me as well. And it is It is flaw. isn't it isn't very good at doing w. The other thing is I have to shake so much like there's so much fucking left in there. I have to I have am I supposed to be having to wipe that much, but I just have to like I have to really shake. the actual piss, that's only about eighty percent of the urine. Yeah. The rest of it's still the still in the pumps in the pump.ah And I do and I shake, right? And in way that's why I' stopped using urinals as much because I have shake so much. I but it's so weird. it's been f There's been sometimes where I have shook a lot I'm like, right, I've gotta really get you all out of here. Yeah fell back in the old pants there. Yeah. And then it just goes I a whole other thing. Yeah, I know. There was like a little like the back of the cock that just sort of managed to make its way. It's like it's like, can you all come out at once? Yeah. Don't some of you hang around at the back of the I remember people trying to get locked in a museum or something. just all come out now. I remember Greg Davis was telling me I think he had a camera up his knvel or something. Oh yeah, that's right. Yeah. Then he said he went for his first piss and he said he said it was just like emptying a bucket of water. He said it just all came out of once. He said it wasn't a stream. I wasn't there for about twenty seconds, just pushing it out. It was like it was just as if you'd open unlocked a dam just straight into the toilet Oh God. But yeah no, maybe let's look into that, Jack. let's try and find out if we can do some mask printing. We've got another message here as well It a snake update from Chris My memory's so bad.'s Chris written to us before, I assume so. No, it's actually about Joe spoke about snakes a few episodes ago Okay and kind of how they were sort of weird but they get away with it. And Basically that is sparked a response. Okay. He. So yeah, so Goodday fellas Big f big fan From Wagawaga in Australia, their names it L. There' just ye The town names in Australia are really They're amazing As an Australian, I'm a big fan of snakes. Something Joe said about snakes reminded me of a couple of snake facts Joe spoke about poisonous snakes in a recent episode. Poisonous means you're harmed from eating it So typically you would say snakes are venomous Yeah.'s right Yeah right. You can't get stung by a snake because snakes Ss Bes Yes. That's from that's Chris Morris U I say typically because u and here is Facts number one, there are a few snakes that are poisonous and you cannot eat So if some dickad Australian hassles you online for saying poisonous snakes, you can sell them to fuck off because some snakes are in fact poisonous Fact number two is that snakes don't have ears. I knew that I knew that one. So it's funny as fuck when I see tourists shouting at snakes to try and scare them away And my third and final fact is that snakes actually do have ears. Oh fucking know. Is at you. Chris, you've duged me there. Th these facts are littleittle Russian doll facts were actually inside the reputation Oh ye is the thing that you originally believed U they have an inner earar that they use for balance, but they don't have an outer earar. The sounds won't bother them So no need to be afraid of snakes Joe, just leave them the fuck alone. Don't try eating them and you'll be fine from Chris. Chris also says PS Joe, I'll be in London in late July, if you're keen for a pint which I'm sure Joe will turn up to. Not meaning to exclude you, James. I would love to have a pint with you too but after hearing Joe's story early on about loving to have pints I don't think he said loving. Loving to have pints with raands, I thought I might try my luck. Yeah, Joe will probably turn up to that. I won't because I'm normal Yeah, no, that's fine. I I'll wing you some dates, Chris. and we'll , wasn't out U what do you want to do, Joe? Sh we do shouldhould we get into fact check seeming as though we're doing correspond? Well, I really I have say just I mean, that's a great that is a There's a very good little section of And in a way It had the style of an essay where you you begin with a straw man and then you say, well, of course, this is all rubbish, but then in your conclusion, you kind of turn it back around again, said. But in the end, maybe that's aosition that we began with, maybe that really is true And there's a kind of Wisdom of Cowds thing and both of those Um, one of this but actually it's I'd say it's almost four There is it has that structure And then just on the ears thing, geckos and lizards of various kinds they actually genuinely have I think I haven't said this on one it before they genuinely have a third eye u kind of in the middle of their head and So when people talk about like the third eye Yeah, the sort of yoga thing I think it's probably not connected. and I don't think these geckos are doing Yeah But they have there is you can't see it, but underneath the skin there is there's a sort of partially formed.s a bit like the inner ear there is this partially formed Thd ey. So what I'm saying is you know, to these lizards, get yourself down to a yogo center near you and actually will make a lot sense to you because you do actually have a third eye. You're going to go for a b with Chris? Yeah, of course ye. I'll do a podc of as well. Brilliant Yem. all you do have to do is ask Joe And he does and he he agrees to stuff. Yeah just U donon't ask don't get, do ask do get. Yeah Let's move on to fact check. Right. We'll hold off your Amazing facts. It's a good one And it's a return, Wh shall, yeah yeah yeah, yeah. It links up in just says two ways. Jays a good one. It's a good one Yeah. Um well this is fact check Do you ever fact check jingle or anything No no. I mean we can make one if you want. I feel like we should. Do you want to like say something that might go into it? U Can you check this for me please? Yes. Alright. What about the anus? What about the anus Do people recognize other people from a print of their anus Yeahn it? That's sort of version of that was the dig of a fact check. I mean think it's going to be. Okay That's one else is in my eyes. Okay, that's the jingle It's so quick, isn't it? We really get through a lot of work, don't we? Yeah. It's because we just accept anything So this is fact check This is where we where you give us a question. s Bizarre, isn't it? Yeah, it' today. you're going to give us something to get to the bottom the jingle? to the jle We don't need to do the jingle becausecause we'ready done. The jingle was recorded live. U Or is this still the jingle? this is the jingle. re jingle inception It might Yeah I tell you what fact about inception, I about Christick Nolan, like how I can't be in films, I literally don't understand inception E as even as a viewer. Yeah. let's forget about being in it I didn't, I didn't and never will understand it. Well And let's just leave it there. Dreams have beenreamsn't They going to There were too many man. There was there is just someone'sreeh be three maxs Yeah They go to someone's dream And then they fall asleep in that dream. Yeah, I got that. But then there is a point where I'm like Now I can't do anymore. It was like I could do GCSC math, but not A level maths really. I only got be I've got C in my second year,. character through by May in the first year. And in theception fell out that I was like, yeah, I can't, this is too hard now shouldn't I should have just done the AS level We're don't understand it. literally don't understand it. Imagine see a film, I don't understand it. Is be an actor I don't understand films even to watch a film. Yeah Okay, Ch, that's o It's like being somebody' supposed to be designing cars and you don't even know how to drive a car or something. or not even It you may have be aneron nistical enineer and you can't even pronounce the word plane. G Garf Marenge. Who's written more books than he's read? Yeah, exactly. I've written more books than I've read. One of the few authors that have written more books than they've read. Anyway, this is it is fact check. As you could tell from the the jingle from the jingle there We'll be reading a fact or a question that you'd like us to get to the bottom of and then we're going to have a little think during the break. And then we'll come back and let you know how true it feels to us and decide whereher it passes our fact check So this week's fact check comes from Peter Who sent us a WhatsApp Peter says, Hey Joe and James I saw a post on social media that claimed that in Victorian Britain The lowest form of accommodation was access to a rope to bend over and sleep on, and it cost around a penny. Apparently it was used by drunken sailors who spent all their dosh on getting pissed. The post said this is where the phrase hungover was coined I'm hoping you'll find this to be an interesting and therefore true fact and puts being in the doghouse into perspective Right We're going to have a little break and then we're going to discuss that message from Peter. Welcome back to Joe and James Fact Up. we were just fact checking on behalf of Peter, who asked does the term hungover come from Victorian Britain, where drunken sailors would literally hang over a rope to sleep Yes' true It's true. Absolutely true. They'd rent out like a yard of rope or something like that for a penny Yeah because it was sort of nicer than just sleeping on the floor. Yeah. and you'd have rows of people. I've seen pictures of it So I know for effects is true That's amaz. I've seen.' in a picture. I have read about it in U down and out in Paris in London. by George Orwell, which a lot of that is about accommodation and the various kind of lower rungs on the accommodation ladder Um and I yeah, I think this was this is definitely the worst before you get to just sleeping on the ground. I'm sure I've u I'm sure I've seen the same thing. Peter has seen on Instagram or something, I've also seen YouTube videos about it as well Um sort of Simon Whistler YouTube videos. He's a good guy. I'm sure I've mentioned him before. He does sort of mega projects and He does a lot of fact. he's but his stuff is good this is one of the things So he's actually he's bothering to do facts even though we're covering it so extensively. Yeah, exactly. I think we're I think we are going I p your back drive him out of business at some point out of business No, I think he's I think I think he is responsible for eighty percent of YouTube Son whler. He's honestly got about four thousand YouTube channels. I've never actually I probably have G into it, man. is good. Yeah. And he also does a thing called I think one of his channels is called, I think it's called Brain Blaze where he u He sort of, you know, relaxes a little bit Be he's quite all his other stuff's like talking about dark facts or talking about prisons or talking about awful things that have happened or mysterious things Yeah or big buildings that are about to be built or something like that or or tragedies that have happened to the They're all very factual, very interesting videos he makes and they're all he's got a different channel for different genres of what you're doing Yeah. But he's got this one called Brain Blaze where he just sort of u just sort, you know kicks off your shoes a little bit and goes a bit silly and they that's good fun as well gets a little bit freaky. I'm a big fan. I'm a big whistler fan. top off T doesn't come off That's what I do. The top doesn't come off now. Well, Simon Whister, if you're listening you'reistening whist If you yourre listen Well then u get you get your top off No, but that is true. It's definitely true It's definitely true, Peter Days days that is fact that is so fact it hurts Yeah, it's and u It hadn't occurred to me that would be where the hangover. but again, that that sounds I don't even think that sounds extremely plaus.. I mean, these sailors, they really did just betteroney sailors, I think it was I think Oh yeah, yeah. Yeah. But I mean, I think the It's well, it's the clues in the name Dunken Silor if they're notnding they're not spending They money on booze then they're not they can't be a drunken sailor by definition. Yeah I wonder what they'reining Silor sailor's tits seem to better a. There there were sailor's tits Well sailors, no sailors Sailors, there's a place in on the Istishp called Blue Town that used to have like, I think I have literally mentioned it here. had the most p I've honestly, I've said this before here. at the most pubs of any the highest concentration of pubs anywhere in the country. And's because with sailors. they just come off and they just spent all their moneymediately in pub. It's like But u it's uh so it seems to be a I guess they just can't wait to have an absolutely massive one. They've been on a boat for Yeah, They' not got booots on the boat. think they got rum. Sh got rum? Yeah, I think so. But they just want to be. I think it's weak, is it not Well, have you heard tapping the Amiral? have you heard that little story I do it frequently. ye Yeah I attacked the admiral a couple of times a day. Yeah. I can't I just can't drop off if I haven't done had a visit to her. Yeah exactly. So the addmiral in his quarters. Um no tapping the admiral is there's a pubicical tapping the admiral. in Right. And the idea is that when Nelson died They preserved his body in a barrel of rum But then they were like, I've heard that. yeah. Anyone else getting a little bit thirsty for a bit of rum? thenre like they drank someake a little bit. Yeah I've heard that. Have you told me that before?, probably. I think both those things have u literally said before, but Queen Lily May, shall we throw it over to you? Yeah This is cut and dried. is this is fact This is is fact. If the gloves don't quit, you must have Al also I have to say glovest quit you must have quit. really simple this one. Exactly. he's innocent. everybody knows it. Yeah. and U but u Pite Um, the gloves don't quit is what I said those gloves just don't quit. Those gloves, she's got some gloves that don't quit What does that mean, by the way? I know it sounds a bit fifties, sort of about fifty like she's got an ass that don't quit I think what it means is I can't stop thinking about it. R I don't quit. It not really don't reallys not really the ass's fault. It doesn't stop being The ass has quit. No, But the ass doesn't stop being great. It doesn't stop being an ar. being a beautiful ass Yeah, I mean, you know what, how could it stop being an ass us? Yeah. What else could it possibly be What happens when an ask does quit? I don't w want to knowe because they just have a big gap there and it'll fall down. Is it justust like you too deflated your arwards, you're really in trouble Because it's got so many responsibilities. Do know have you watched K Maybe that's the proble with the toilet, Mbe the ar the hill The person was like, I'm very sorry, my ass quit. my No my ar didn't come into work today. And that's why Yeah and I have texted, but but I can't get through. They're just not picking up. Yeah So I can't say I've just to I've had to do a shit anyway, but my ass has quit Can we leave this tntill tomorrow?' h hope I' be back in and then take it up with them? What we say about kicking the hill Have you seen King of the Hill? No, it's a cartoon. It's quitely. No. But one of the characters, the main character He medically doesn't have an ass.. So he has to start wearing Like these two little sort saline pouches because he's getting really bad back problems So they're kind of like As implant. Yeah, sort of Interesting. but Queen Lily M. sorry, don't make that You're not allowed to do that. What? I know this is going badly. It's not going bad. I don't even think it's going bad. I can't Yeah. I can't turn around and look at you going. I was Heing a. Larally mate, we need a poker face from you. Yeah, we need you We need you to go. I can't say enough that that was not about what was going on Yeah. You't go to your You don't go to your kids nativity play s Oviously it' shit, but that doesn't mean you betray your emotions to're all and suundry broadcasting far and wide. You misunderstand. I was looking at my laptop, I was reading my laptop and that is what I Okay. What's You're not going to be happy is why I was exhiling. because So it's commonly referred to as a hangover because of the two penny hangovers. But there is no solid evidence for that being the origin of it. And in fact, A little bit of research from an article from the Guardiian says the hangover was first described more than three thousand years ago by Sustra Hamitra, an Indian textbook on medication, and it was described as Parmanda And it was a post drinking condition that was characterized by thirst, pain in the head and joint pain. Yes lost the body and had. they didn't call it hang on Yeah they called it a hang out., canan I finish I don't know with you I don't know actually. A I? Yes I' not it thought. I just I finish Yes, I am Ray. I am furious Yes it's only because Can you see why I was exhaling? I was not happy about saying this. Yeah. I'm not pleased about this. keep going But the word hangover had become more associated with alcohol in the past century and it apparently first appeared in the English vocabulary in the nineteenth century as an expression for describing unfinished business from meetings. It was not until the early nineteen hundreds that the word cropped up as a reference to alcohol. Right is what it's You know what, right? I sort of forgot that we were try get to the bottom of the term hang overver I thought he was just talking about those I thought it was more about the rope because I know for a fact that those ropes. And I looked into that and they are true, obviously. Yeah. And they used to have a thing called penny situps so you'd sit up for one penny And then you'd have the two two penny hang. So it'd be more comfortable and you'd give the extra penny to have it thats Yeah, but also they would all they would also have the They'd'd you'd rent a spacer on a bench. Yes. That was the penny setup. And yes, and they'd put the rope across everyone so they could just sort of lean forward, but there'd be all these people on a bench. But the rope would go across their chest. And that was cheaper. Yes. Yeah. But that's weird because you're sitt down, aren't you? Like I don't know Yeahah, I don't know I don't know. So the penn I don't know anything you would or that you would sit upon a bench all night. The idea is that folding over would be more comfortable. The more I think about the more I think about Hangover is that it's just something carried on going from the previous day Yeah So you feel the way you're feeling now because of what you did yesterday. it's hanging over from yesterday. It's still with you. So there are types of hangover that aren't actually related to alcohol Just like I've heard, there are types of Umami that aren't actually related to food Right I heard that what's tami? Sami is the delicious savory flavor. Yeah Right? So like the taste of cheddar cheese or something. just that lovely kind of Miso. Miso. It Vabi got it. Is my h Yeah. Okay. Can I tell you something? Yeah I don't know what's happened the last couple of years of my life Every time I brush my teeth now U I taste was sabi The toothpaste tastes of wasabi to me This is a really fucking weird thing I probably shouldn't out of the Twitits. I maybe shouldn't have brought up now U But I keep light brushing my like, God that tastes to like wasabi. And I've not had any sushi. I haven't any sushi for ages Have you tried a different toothpaste No, I've had the same toothpe I know what toothpaste are like. I've been going I've at it for years Blame stain everything I get told off by I get told off by Claire for using it. and she keeps she keeps telling me I should change my toothpaste and I've said no to her Do you reckon then she spiked your toothpaste to make you stop using it? Do you reckon? I mean, potentially It makes c sense big logical sense. just started and how has's been going on for? The lastast couple of years. What's good about health stuff? And I always say Hann is delight If he's been going on for like six months, you need to see a doctor. But if he's been going on for like twenty years then you just go would have this is life didn't happened by now That is So that's So as I always say that ch, I'm like, Look, you don't understand I'm not going to improve Just wait. Yeah And then you'll get used to all of it. That's it I know, but you do but you can u can you can obviously what's the opposite of improve to generate act. I mean, that's youah,s she's got that to look for. But I wouldn't say I would just say to you Your argument of saying, listen, Hannah, I'm not going to improve. So gives her the hope that maybe you're set then. Oh, I see, no, I haven't said that. No. No. okay. I've just said there's a There's a low ceiling doesn't mean there's a high floor. Okay Is this when you're in bed Yeah' Hanah I'm not going to prove. Yeah. it's Whyere were we with this? I don't know. No, we so So ground to the meaning of hangover. Yeah. hangover. Okay, but byang maybe all that start those rope things will. I just say also that idea of like actually people didn't like how they felt the next day even three thousand years ago That's neither here nor that. I know that people felt bad after they'd had drinking. Yeah the previous night they'd had drinking the day of the night of the previous day and night, that the bad the people felt. and no ey then that in. But like that That's got nothing to do no. They came up with a word for it no Nobbody ever has said that no one got drunk until the nineteen twenties Yeah Nobody said that I didn't get what you meant going back three thousand years to be honest with you. Listen, There's a description of a hangover three thousand years ago. Thank. Of course there is. Of course there is. Was it called a hangover? No So why am I being troubled with it during this part of the podcast It's context It is content. Look, listen, in Lilly May's defense. it's not L May's fult. I didn't bring a fact. I'm feeling like it's my fault It's not your fault. I'm just I've not brought a fact in, so you haven't done. Lin May's padded out You know, this is a regular feature. is this is the normal part No, but you did. You did you did we were sort of talking about hangovers and you went, there is records of hangovers three thousand years ago. And I think Joe's point is, yeah, obviously Of course. Yeahah. we're talking about we're talking about the We're talking about the it's like me saying, o, the word dinosaur was meanted by the Victorians and then someone going Oh, well, there were dinosaurs sixty million years ago Yeah. Yeah, I know, but they weren't called dinosaurs No, they weren't calling each other dinosaurs well. They weren't Yeah, Th were' going, good morning dinosaur. How are you I feel lot the chefs. Yeah I apologize. No it's not your fault. is Somebody iss feeding you I don't know whether you've I done with something's happened to the interternet Anyway, if you've got a fact that you'd like us to get to the bot. anyway head to the episode's description for all the ways to get in touch. Okay Joe Do you want to take a breather or do you want to get stuck? I'm happy to go on actually. I'm happ to go on. I love it. So there's no theme, but I've been reading a book and I have been mentioned in the comments here it's called Golliath Curse by Luke Kemp Um he's an Australian. We always seem to talk about Australia in the end. I don I don't know why It always comes around to either Aus or Australia. Now either talk about poo Um, Animals or Australia. Yeah. That's the podcast. That's the podcast. That's what it should be called really. Yeah U From animals to Australia Animals Austria An AnusA. Yeah ChA. Anus, Australia around Animals. Yeah ye. Yeah Um So It's a really interesting book and There is I had no idea this was true, but there is a region Um, in the sort of North. West China, North Thailand. Thailand, Thailand, we say, Thailand kind of northeast Pakistan. there's this whole area island Ireland. That's like Ireland. Ireland I was once in a playwrer in Irish accent and a really nice actor called Aden Oh God, Mcardle. Ed McCardle He was really sweet. I was doing an Irish accent. He's Irish and he said, doing you're doing a good job. You are he said there's a few words work on. One of them was literally wor island. Right. war to Ireland Yeah. Anyway, he was he was being I think he was being rather Nice to me. I appreciate it was like, well first of all, Ireland. You're saying that wrong? Yeah. And that's a pretty big one. Yeah. if you're trying to do an I. It's it's got very, very deep ar. that Ion it's right the back of the throat. And it's a bit like the American art and that's why Irish people are good at doing American accents. Yes. I also anyw way the New York acc much like an Irish accent Claire and I would assume a lot of Scottish people don't like how People were doing a Scottish trying to do a Glaswgian accent in a funny way. the way they say glas go U because it' the joke is like Glasgy Glasky.. Llask. I'veard. People from Glasgow say it that way. Glasgy, yeah. I've heard it on good authority. Well they never say that. They don't say Glasky They say Glersga Glaska, Glaska and even I'm doing that badly. As far as I'm aware, if you did A what you apart from what you're just saying if you said Glasgate to a Glaswagian be a bit annoyed. Okay I'm just going to stick to saying Glasgow Glasgow Like Moscow. No we like Moscow. Yeah Moscow. I'm just gonna to stick to saying Edinburgh Americans. they really do they really did um They do they've really sort of what's the word I'm trying to say I'm so tired, Joe. No surise. I'm justing I'm just trying to work at what area of but the cow bit in The cow bit in Moscow Moscow. Yeah They're quite literal are? Yeah, They've seen the cow Moscow COW and they call it Mosk cowcow Yeah, but this must go They've got surely. They've yeah, they don't talk proper. They've made lots of mistakes. I saw a thing There' a great number of mistakes I saw a thing on my Instagram It was some bl I think from Iran or Iraq or something And He was going, by the way, it's not Iran Iraq. It's Iran. Iran Iran You knowice wr. Gone because it's the home of the Aryans O. So they are they no, no, but they are big reaction. Iran something I didn't understand at all whatsoever. Iran the the founding of the modern state of Iran This is just the rest of is history. Yeah. They're like We are not an Arab nation. we're an Aryan nation. And it seems because with Aryan, we think of that as being a sort of part of the Nazi shit, but like as a kind of European thing, but then this is the land of the Aryans. So it's just I doesn't know Everyone's got their own little ideas about where they come from. and They all think they're more important than everyone else. But yeah, they're like, but we're not I feel like in the West, a lot of people lump Iran in with the Arab nations and actually they would be like, not only are we not Arab nation, in a way we define ourselves sort of against them. They're kind of our opponents. Yeah. Iran's an amazing. They've got an incredible history. Amazing history. Persia and Absolutely amazing history Um Maybe she should do a little Persian Yeah I'd be good You could go anyhere with it though be great. Yeah Ancient Persia and yeah Yeah. What are they on? So they're not having a And a bit a difficult time at moment, but Yeah Was Adaman the Great That was Heo was the one that during the crusades and he sort of just this is too mean they ended up being paling Yeah. U Oh, this is Sala Saladin Saladin, that's it. Saladin Yeah And there's there's a bit in that film where they meet the Lopper King of Jerusalem and he's like Oh I beat saladity. Oh I did D I really? D really m I suppose 's the k He's got a golden mask on Be behind that mask, I think it's an absolute horror show to be honest It's King Richard whenin it? King Richard became pals with him Rich the lineh? Yeah that they become sort of pals because there was like this, you know There was bits where they they'd meet up for battle or something. and some of them would go, I don'tancy it. don't I don'tancy it ye. I don't fancy it if I was you. He was pretty good, Samadin. I think the Christians were shit awful loss of every battle. They just they never And then they go, Oh, we haven't won that. Let's just beat up someone else. For the first crise I, don't do that I just genuanly a joke Yeah They failed they failed in their missions. They're like, let's just attack some other people. Yeah. And I will, no, don't just I know you're all excited. but you need to call it a day. Like you can't just the other people haven't done anything At first we didnn't read anything, but at least that was the aim of the game. It was the people's usade the or the peasants crusade. There were They do crusades on everyone. They did a crusade against the Husites. They were in Czechoslvakia, rightight Thats Jerusalem is it not by a long chalk not buy a long chalk. Have you done your f? Not yet? No. So basically There There is a region. I did not even I'd never fucking heard of it. This is a region. It is two point five million square kilometers It has a hundred million people in it If it was a country, it would be the tenth biggest country by area in the world It is simply an area. It is stateless, It is not governed It has no obvious central authority A hundred million people live there. In the book it's referred to as Zomia It's kind of in the sort of Tibet Nepal, like high I think it's called the East Asian somethingomet massif I just I'd never heard of this. It' one hundred million people Not a country, not a state. Um I just inte my mind. I never It is not unbelievable. I mean like it's just kind of not part of China No, it overlaps. because I was saying it' sort of it overlaps these countries, but of course it doesn't really overlap the countries because the countries don't overlap it because there isn't authority in it. but Um And it's various people who for all different reasons live there. Normally because they are ref probably fleeing an authority under under which they do not wish to live Um and I just had no idea. I just it was extraordinary. just like something like that would exist. wouldn't. I did not think it would exist because I assume like what you're saying, there's no central government, there's no real sort rules or, you know, they're sort of just getting on with it themselves. So I assume there's no army. No. I think I would I think you think you A land mass land that much will have some resources and stuff. So you would have thought Someone in that area would have gone, we better take this over. It's quite the hard' terrain. basasically it's the terrain. R And a big theme of this book is that where it's the whole book about how states are formed And a lot of it is to do with it factors to do with like what resources it has and whether those resources are easily the author calls looted So if you have wheat as your main resource, it's very easy for somebody to take all the wheat because it advertises itself. It's very obvious that the wheat is there. It's very obvious that the wheat harvest is coming U And so you can just turn up to somebody who's growing the wheat and say, well, that's actually ours. Um, and you can store it for a long time. whereereas if you have if you have things that more like um, G I can't the examples.' like potato. I think even maybe potatoes, like you can hide them on the ground they go off a bit more quickly. you can't store them as much. So loutable resources is one of these things. And then also caged land. So if you can kind of keep people, if you can stop people from leaving easily That's another thing that will make it easier to set up your I mean, the whole thing of the water, I would say it's definitely a kind of In very broad terms, you would say he's kind of anti st He doesn't really like, I mean, this is probably doing a disservice, but like it's kind of about how states are basically ways of dominating people. R. And if you don't want to be dominated your best chanceces to be somewhere where it's easy to escape Well me too. I mean, and that's the reason I started reading the book and there's nothing of that yet I thought it was like fifty shades. Yeah. Nothing. absolutely I come That's what we need to do next as well. I would like some scenes recommended for fifty shades because I haven't seen it. I've not seen it either obviously neither Butay say then but if you do want to then run away and not be brought back under the controlled of the state is quite good to go somewhere like really inaccessible to rain. and I have I'm sure that's why this area is here in this part of the world because it's like mountainous If you know the land well, you've got a big advantage over any kind of invader I just had no blows my mind a hundred million people. This whole this big area of land, not country, just kind of just there in plain sight just didn't know extraordinary. Amazing. Unbelievable that. Good old fact there, Joe. Thank you. I think that brings us to the end brings us to the end. I'm just gonna say my sentences like that now as well I think that brings us to the end. I'm I'm all facted out, Joe I am all fact out I'm really tired. I'm not going to be tired for the next recording promise you What have we learnted today? Well, we've learnnt that u The first hangover was three thousand years ago. Yeah. and they called it a hangover. they called it a hangover. They' learned that you can put anything on the internet, even if it' of old shit. We learned that. I'm not I'm not going to get you Lay. I mean it really feelking. You didn't I might have to it. I might knock you out. Oh amazing. Off with his head. Careful. She's the queen We learnnt that. I never touched that swan Yeah. We learnnt that u fingerprinted ninus. What was it? You see rolling. We could we learn more about snakes. We learn a bit more about snakes We learnnt that there's a country that's not a country Yeah that's absolutely massive loads of people Yeah. U so yeah, thanks for listening. We hope you have had a nice time Um doesn't necessarily need to be both