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New episodes are released every Wednesday Find Nutrition diva on Apple podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you're listening, and be sure to follow or subscribe so you don't miss a single episode ast helps creators launch, grow, and monetize their podcasts everywhere ACast. com I was hearing myself eating on one of our podcasts recently and I was like, I don't like that. Why are you listening to our podcast? I like to listen to them back. Don't listen to them back. Do themem and forget about them I might stop That's always been yeah, do stop listening. I might stop listening. That's always been our mentality. I've carried that mentality like from the in between us Yeah where we just And I genuinely think it does make I genuinely think it stops from going mental, but it also makes your work better. So whenever I do a podcast, whenever I do a TV show, way back when we were doing the in betweenetweeners. and I think we all had the same mentality where it was like Oh I forot people were going to see this Oh, fuck you honestly, magazine articles are come out and I'd be like, Ohh yeah, God, that was quite We were very rude. Yeah. We were We were young and we were young so excited. The thing is that Almost They all of that was good and fine. L it was just like you can you can like you can start to see stuff isn't there if you just keep on I think G. I think we're all I think we're right. I think we're okay. I suppose in the end, you either you think I you either sort of Yeah, I mean, I'm contradting myself here, but like yeah you either you either trust your judgment or you don't. But like for example, I get I get thrown. buy stuff. Yeah, I was doing a sounduig once and it was like an hour. At at one point I made that gesture And I was like, Has that become like a kind of far right gesture now And I've got the audio over you doing this gk and I can literally hear you' the moment panic where I'm like And I should probably say for our for our audio listeners, Joe was just doing a sort of the okay sign. Yeah, the okay sign. No, the divers making stuff. Yeah. And I was like And it's like Now the thing is I didn't do that with any bad intention and yet I was was that does that mean I mean this? And the point is, It did totally fuck up for that. G. So stop listening to the podcast. I will never listen to this podcast. And neither should any of you. We got No don't take that. D't D definitely don't say that. No got we got Katie on it Yeah no, you know, it's fine. is f Also, I think I genuinely think that we're in a great position. because I think that you know, being from the in betweenetween is and just how the fact that the like a big part of the reason why the in between was such a success. was because the people watching it I don't I don't I don't subscribe to that theory of being like the in betweenweeners was good. so that's why you watched it. I think it was I think there was a There was a lot of people in the early days that told all their mates to go and watch the Ins. and that's why we ended up where we ended up, which is absolutely brilliant And I think we are very lucky with that. And I think think I think we belong to Britain I think we belong to this country. People want People put their arm around us and they're like,h, don't worry, they're a couple of idots. People will callool with us We're like the we're like the country's little idiot brother Yeah We're like We're like, oh, he's like like I remember when like a couple of my mates had little brothers and stuff. know you got part They were genuinely quite funny and they wanted to hang out with us. and they would just be sort of wheeled out and'd be like, ye, watch my brother do this and they'd do something to try and impress us. That's what we are People don't take any notice of what we've actually got to say. People don't take it seriously. I think it's fun because the thing is I'm an older brother in real life. so I think I find it difficult to be like the younger. I'm always like, I'm I know I'm aware I'm a serious person. but I was like, No I'm serious I think the reason I think to the extent Almost say I think people to be light and loaded to it should be like, o don't Don't take them too seriously which is a great position to be in. Well, that would be shouldn't really take And apart from a couple of things, you shouldn't really take anything too seriously Will I Yes, I think I probably agree with that I don't think I should be taking too seriously. I mean, theses also I just do hzerously. so I mean, but it's easier said than done, don't? It's easer Yeah. Yeah I think I'm I don't practice what I preach. I say don't take you seriously and then I. I don't practice anything that I preach I'm genuinely someone I've got mates and there was like You're quiet, you've got some good you you've genuinely got sage advice. You' you've genuinely got great outlook and you you that you I'll talk to you about a problem and then you'll make it seem really simple for me and really cut to the sort of car out or the bulls shit. And I think I'm really good on the outside looking in Hm And I feel like I've done that with you. I've had conversations with you and you've panicked about something. I've got to worry about it. haven greatreat. No you're gonna do this we'll do that. It'll be fucking brilliant, don't you, you know Yeah I don't I don't have that. No don't I think I don't project that on myself. What it's hard. Yeahah I mean it it's difficult, isn't it? It's hard to kind of It's hard to take the advice that you would give someone else. Yeah But I agree I think your advice to others is pretty good, in might be. I think it's just all about simplifying stuff I think when it comes down to it at the end of the day If you're out of the rine You got some food That comfy place to sit. G got a TV are O could you No, I do sort of I had a little mantcha when I was in my twenties, which was if you don't want to do something, you don't have to do it don't do it. And I think I just I was aware I just wasn't really doing anything I mean, but that but also if you do follow I think when I look at people, if you do follow that philosophy, Yeah, you might come to a point where you go Nothing matters. They don't really have to do anything. Well people most people who seem to have achieved some kind of enlightened state of mind. Yeah, generally they seem like they're kind of like nuns or like monks or. And they don't really do anything. Yeah, the Budda. I mean, that's famously what he sat by a tree for about four years or whatever it was It think it was for four years. Right did But that was the that was the whole starting of a whole religion wasas he sat by a tree Yeah he got visited by some deemons or something And he just didn't pay attention to them. I think I'm simplifying. There's a chance. There's a really big chance I might be simplifying. but he reached enlightenment And Elightenment basically was Thed beed by demons and actuallye and ye Yeah. and the rest is all just sort of a Bruce. I like the idea of you know, of ignoring the demons. I think I think that's I think that's a good I think that's good piece of advice. And we do li in a world, don't we where it's You're constantly being told there are demons there. Like you're constantly being likeike um, I was listening to u Youvon know Harrari. of course Spiens. Yeah, sapiens as best. And he was say And he was saying that like was No, was it him that rose Yeah, no it was ye Yeah. He was saiens. He sapiens And like He was sort of saying how you know, in in a kind of In a in in a I suppose yeah, like a state of nature essentially. if you were I mean, I've already read this, but yeah' showing it to the audience that listening if you were if you were if you werere an early human just kind of walking across like the African plane Most of it's fairly boring. You're like, oh, there's kind of a shrub there and then there's kind of like you know, maybe a bird in the sky. and you're kind of quite it's warden. Yeah. Yeah, of course. actuallyually that's bad example Yeah. that Yeah And then you see a snake Right. And you're like that has if that doesn't command your entire attention you'll die. So it's really, really important evolutionarily your biology is designed to make you complete one hundred percent attention to that snake. And he basically said and when you're on Instagram iss basically just going snake snake snake I mean, I just I mean, it's a point that I've heard other people make, but I just likeked how He made it particularly and u Yeah, is that Instagram is like snake snake sn. He's very insightful Yeah, I mean, it's' your name again. Youvono Hari. Yvon Hari. You've Yeah. yeah. yeah And u He u I'm What's all we saying Oh yeah,' just the point is not a podcast yet. we can just talk about bullets for a little while. Yeah, that's fine. Well the point is, isnt that's enough shoot he's right donon't know I genuinely don't know. It's not one of it's not It's not one of the big three monotheistic religions. I thought that u I think it's actually I think it's actually u accepted that Hinduism is the oldest practiceing religion. I thought it was Zoroastrianis. I thought it was Zoroastrianism. I think Zoroastrianism That sounds old. I mean, they you're like, well, that's the oldest one, obviously likeike that's come on, Zoroastrian. Yeah, because that's what like the Persians and stuff were Yeah And I just as as good it' got' his head in it. and you're like, well, you know, cle And ye them lot. they were um Who were, by the way, were allright But theers Persians. Right. Yeah. they were sort of a lot of the time they were seen as liberators more than conquerors. Where were they When they did So they had that big thing with Greece, well, I say Greece. It wasn't Greece at the time, but Athens and Sparta. The people that we would think of as like the ancient Greeks. But that big The three hundred battle. Oh yeah. It's what the Odyssey is about and the other one The Iliad. Iliad. Yeah, of course. There's two epic poems. Yeah. and I think they're both about those I haven't read friend theopolies Theopoly? Sorry, I'm just hearing monopoly. Monopoollyle There was a little bloke in the top out with the monacle and he kept the Persians at bay. No, but the Persians are like, well all right? because Athens and Sparta were like, o, we don't want to get involved in them. They're going to come over here in a minute. They're taking over the world so far. And they're awfulull. they've got all slaves and stuff like that. First of all, they didn't have slaves. All their All their stuff, I mean, they might have had slaves But All of their all of their buildings that were built and things like that and all the infrastructure and everything were paid by paid specialists, paid people that you know, masons and whatnot. They were they weren't slaves. Yeah. And then secondly when they conquered you, They'd be like, oh, if you want to get involved in Zoro What's it called? Astris? Well,'s or Astranism? Yeah, or Astranism. If you want to get involved, callool. But if you want to practice your religion No, you know, we don't give a fuck. it's up to you. And loads of people were like, oh yeah, they're cult. like what like they weren't, they were like literally like They would liberate people. they were generally quite liberal Hm which is sort of quite It goes against I suppose the Uh narrative that we have in the Western world of the Middle East Yes Yeah being sort of strict sort of, you know? Well, yeah, I mean, we tend to have this dichotomy of like like the West. like our women can't drive and stuff like that. Yeah. wasas it called like when I was when I was at university there was this phrase the West and the West which seemed to be banded about, but I think as a kind of That's how people in the People in what they think of as the West think about the world. like we kind There's always that tendency in history or yeah, in history to contrast yourself who's right with everyone else who's wrong But it's funny with it just a tas,n't it Was there a little touch something? Little toe touch? They have their own little world, don't they? What are they all about Mommy and Daddy talking again. Which one of us is Mumy U who is it Oh we're both. I think we're both mumy, both mummy. Neither of us are at each other. We're in a lesbian relationship. We l less relationship children are our shoes. children are our shoes? No, that's right. They' got their own little children's table down there. Bessome What's talking about I don't know. Ca I don't know at all Um well, yeah, I mean, the thing is the if you have like a large structure that kind of dominates over the sf in a way. links back to this other thing I've been Listening to Giath's curse Giath's cururse Goli Goliath's cururse is the book What's that? It's a book about states and civilizations and it's like You can kind of look at them You can look at ostensibly benevolent civilizations and say this is actually a structure of domination even like, you know, what we would call civilized liberal states are still in the end ways of dominating people. And you could also look at other types of but you could also look at the other way, like and there's quite a lot of examples in history of like empires that because they were like bit weak and kind of weren't really able to police things very well were actually quite a nice place to live like I think the one that Every was going on about a few years ago was the Austria Hungarian Empire. Yeah. And what was that whereere's Anderson film? Hojo Budapest There was a kind of, I think there was a kind of because the Austriengarian Empire, although it was an empire and it had an emperor and wasn't like maybe a democracy in the streets in a sense, I think In hindsight, It wasn't a particularly strong empire you kind of do what you wanted and like there was quite a lot of diversity and actually compared to a lot of the stuff that came along afterwards, it starts to look quite good. And I think it's like the famous thing from Life of Brian one it's like the Romans. Yeah Yeah what they done for us. Yeah, ye. yeah. Well, yeah, roads. Yeah ye. No I think it often is often a bit like that. but it's interesting how people think of states because I think you can kind of you can look at them That it's almost entire in the eye of the beholder. Some people seem to see them as entirely sort of structched of oppression, then other people are like, well Yeah, but I wouldn't personally, I wouldn't want to live in a place that didn't have a state It seems like Where quite a lot of political ideolog just seem to be like, oh, we could just get rid of it And you're like, well do you want to get really want to get rid of it? I mean, anyway But then in a way They are maybe in the end structures of domination. What I'm saying is I want to be dominated. Yeah. That's what I'm really saying. Yeah, That's what I'm saying. I did too. I don't mind it. It's fine That' absolute fine I do like being told what to do. makes my life easier. Yeah. Maybe states just need domination, but we just need a safety word as citizens. That's what we need, isn't it? sort of Yeah. Yeah Hello yeah, keep taxing me. but then when I say banana you've gotta stop The problem is though, is that you end up in a situation U, like the League of gentlemen Where what was that episode? I think they run a Bn B or something, that couple that run a BnB, but they're like into sort of dominatrix and sex games stuff Yeah. And they end up in those sort of little rubber chambers where they're all getting air through a tube and and this bloke who's just sort of like his wife's well into it and he's not and he's just he sort of goes, I haven't watched it for years, but he's like, I'm just going to pop to the shops And as he walks out, he like kicks off the the pump that like the plug that He keeps giving everyone air. there's about twenty people that just die. just startbating his' being Oh God I think a gentleman was foron, wasn't it? It was gentleman. Yeah League of gentlemen so good. They're real heroes of mine. all those guys Yeah absolutely brilliant. They felt like they went I rememberightly unsung. the part because the office came along So soon afterwards, and it was just everything was about the oppesite like not u thesung, but I felt like they were maybe slightly gumped by the office and everything and that was and that was all kind l. I think there were a lot more romantic than the office like that Yeah. That third series of the League Gentlemen R every episode sort of happens in the same day and it all meets at the end at that car crash or whatever it is. Yeah. It's genuinely genius. L it really, really is. like that is like Yeah Pake Like if I was to write something, it would be I can set in a Wimen pool or something. I think I would just I don't know. I would just be like, oh, here's here's a situation. I'll write about that Whereas they just sort of really went to places And I think I think as a young person, it was easier to look at the office and go I could probably write something like that. it's way more accessive I know people as well Like and it' it was the kind thing where people go, oh, this is the kind of thing I would have written You know and you like, yeah, of course, you never would have done. but like Wereas it Yeah League gentlemen, there was a very it was very uncomfortable It was really, really uncomfortable. There was a lot of tragedy going through all the characters. They all had a really, really and I think that's where you should go with comedy. I think you should I haveave you seen them I think the best way to deal with tragedy and to deal with and stuff going on in your own life is to be able to I know it's easy as I say, it's easier said than done, but to find the funny side of stuff and to find and to be to be a little bit like, well, if I was looking at this, this could be a sitcom right now ve dealt with stuff that's gone in my life and not' been like can know this be funny if it was written down. I think both comic and tragedy to some extent to do with getting away from denial and moving towards this kind of acceptance. that' kind of the fucking who's the guy that the sort of local DJ or something that wants to get the band back to Crem Brut and they're so heartbreaking. it's so sad. They're really, really interested in that kind of like bygone era of entertainment. like G on, let's have a laugh. I've got all the old ge me look. Yeah we could get it out, have a bit of a do all the old songs again Yeah it's like yeah and there is But I mean the twn is there is there is some of the words you say more romantic. Yeah, there'sertain's yeah, they are. there's more of a kind of there's a kind of yearning Yeah. There's this kind of like There's a nostalgia to it and a deep kind of sadness to it. I thought monkey Dust was the same as well Dit have you never se monkey? I don't even know what those is It was like it's a cartoon. It's a sketch cartoon. It is absolutely brilliant you like it's not fucking laugh a minute. No. It's really, really grim. It's it's basically u black mirr aboutb twenty or twenty five years before Black Mirror was a thing. All right,. And it's really, really grim Dg Um genuinely quite beautiful, quite like quite amazing. like Monkey Dust is incredible. Wow I can't believe you've not seen Monkey D. I don't think when was it out Late nineties, early two thousands. Early two thousands, two thousand three, the first episode aired R. BeBC three. Do you know I'm talking about Lly? Now, I've not heard of this, but it looks like it's got a great cast. It's brilliant, It's absolutely brilliant. It's really, really grim. It's really grim, but it is it's very observant and very And it makes you It's not it's a comedy that makes you feel a bit shit about yourself because you're like, o no, I'm like that U It's yeah, mononkey Dust is genius I need to look upook the people that did that and what they then went on to do. It was in my head of a seed. And I sa it's not about monkeys. No, it was not monkeys at allever Yeah. but it was Like there's this one There's this one long And it's sketches and I assume they're all made by different people because a lot of the A lot of the Um, what word am I trying to think of? The look sort of changes from one sketch to another. It's as if they've been drawn by another person. Right. Like one of the ongoing things is like this That who's separate from his wife he's down in his luck and he's got a son. and his wife moved on And the bloke that she's with now is such a great guy And like he'll turn up with like present for his birthday He was like, Ohh yeah, I don't know his name. Jeffrey got me got me the bigger one of those and stuff and he's like, Oh al right, yeah, that'll be good And and at the very end, like this goes on for like a whole series or whatever And at the very end U The dad's just so heartbroken and he's got his son for the weekend or something he's like I'm just gonna to go into the other room for a second, son shoot some s sry And like is right it's incredibly dark. It's like I'm amazed I haven't actually light You know, like u Remember blue jam Yeah Yeah, I do remember that. I've got that on DVD and I couldn't Watch it Yeah. I think I watched one episode. He's like Kevin Elden in it and It's Chris Morris, isn't it? Yeah's very, very. Yeah. It's Chris Morris on steroids Blue Jam. Has it got an AX twin soundtrack? I think it's got a lot of kind of like Re Yeah The writers are really interesting. So it's a guy called Harry Thompson He played a part in like big panel shows like, Have I Got News for you And also the news quiz for Ria four, really early on. And then he's also worked on things like Never Mind the Buzzcocks. It is very like Monkey Dust is quite satirical, it's quite sort of. He helped create LEG Right And the other guy is Sean Pi who worked on extras he also has worked on a few other little bits but the eleven o'clock showow as well, they both worked on together. Yeah. But that always makes sense. So like extras that sort of like getting into the minuture of a situation an allieG, a cultural Yeah it's basically like it's cultural commentary. it's sounds great. You you got to watch mononkey Dust It's really, really I'm surrised I't I can't belie we've never spoken about it before to be honest because it it was such a big thing Br British animation as well. which Yeah British comedy animation is quite So if you have h between say like Yeah, you got that, you got stressed Eric. V really good ye Mark heap Yeah, was that. I remember a stressed Eereics again, it's about a single dad who's got a really stressful job and trying to fucking juggle everything and everyone basically takes the piss out of him because he's quite mild mannered and quite meek And and the end of every episode he gets so stressed that Vain comes out of his head and strangles him. like that's the sort of bunchline of every episode, okay. And I did a thing with Mark Heap a few years ago And I went and spoke to him and I was because he's fucking brilliant likeike Mark He Kevin Elden, all those people I absolutely loved a bit. That is an amazing cl. Like Mark Heap in the Mark He in fucking Bras ey when he's talking to the cow or something he's like, fucking idiot fucking idiot idiot idiot, stupid idiot stuff like that. And And I said to Mark here, I said, I've gott to tell you this story, right? You actually put my not him Not, you know, ye, but ye. I was like, you actually put my wife into labor ike we were she was like due ready to go and stuff and we started watching stressed Eric. R. And she claims this day Wing that. fucking got her so intense and stuff that we ended up then having to go to hospital That amazing. And then we had a baby at the end of it. ye. Whatcause like it made her. She's a stressful watch. She isn't stressful watch. Yeah. It's annoying. Yeah incredibly hilarious, brilliant characters I'm The stressed Eeric cartone is a sort of u It's a it's a partnership between I assume some British production company and the people that I think made U rug rats and real monsters and stuff like that. Calypso something Oh right. You're getting really comedy nerdy now This is stuff I like. I don't know if people will enjoy listening to this, but I love like That was something that was He always struggled apart from the Simpsons. I can never quite get into animation. I don't know why. I think I really like adult animation. I really do there's some really good stuff. There's a really bizarre one. U. say out Now I'm sure I'm I'm really late to this bandwagon There's this thing called smmiling Friends And it's It's really off the wall and really weird and really bizarre I think it's like a What's the grown up cartoon network thing called again? Adult swwim or something like that Yeah, sort of that sort of thing. Rick and Malty. Rick and Mali's great. You'd love You'd be haveave you watched Rick and Mali? My one of my brothers likes Rickam Mal. to be well Is it Rick and Mali Is it's like the dooc and's how it started back to the future. That's how it started It was Dock and Marty. Yeah, okay. Okay. And then they and then they sort of expand on those characters well, we can't call it Dock and Marty So they called it Rickam Mort and it's really like Rickam Mort is great. Rickamort is brilliant. I actually u I was watching Rkamori A lot before anyone else in Britain were watching. because an American friend of mine was like, Ohh, you got to check out and I managed to sort of get hold of it and stuff and then it became a thing U I think I am I think my I always have a sense of animation that n There's so much of it that I don't know how to kind of Be with like the office, it was like, oh, there's a season. there's a kind of There's an arc to it. I the Simpsons was slightly case apart, but but I'm just trying to work out why I seemed to have some massive block watching adult animation. But I think you'd like Rickam M seem to for some reason. I think E the familyam' really good B Murr' his name? What's his name? Bill Burr Well see that? I think it's Bill Bur That one was quite that one's quite sad as well, I remember like being quite tragic. Quite sort of Yeah. Do you think that cartoons tend to be sad because it's It's a more poignant juaposition that it's a cartoon, which would normally Well that's the thing. Yeahy tune. But I think of I think that's what you've got in your head. I think it's easy to write off a cartoon and be like, oh well they're you know, Yeah, I think Bowjack Horseman I love Will on it. B Jack Horseman, you bit of that. It's about a bloke that was in a successful sitcom at one point in his life.. And now he's not trying to do. How am I supposed to relate to that? Exactly N need this I mean, the thing about B Hororsman was like It's is it like some of the people are and some of them are it's all nonsense. it's incredible pathos and genuine h and tragedy Disguised as a cartoon. Yeah And I think I love that. I'm well into that. I love all that sort of stuff. Why do you think that Why choose to make something a cartoon rather than li action because you can you can create a world that doesn't exist. you can completely just create a whole and you can go to places that you wouldn't you can't go to on I think it's a great medium. I think it's really incredible. I mean, like ask the Japanese all their anime and things like that. they go to Oh like it's all fantasy and Um, And some of that stuff, I don't know too much about it. My oldest kid knows more about it than me He knows a lot more about like spirited away and stuff like that. Yeah. And But he also then talks to me and's like, this is all hand drawn. This is all. This is all like this was made in nineteen eighty four or something like that. Yeah. and it's still breathtaking to look at. It's still like you can definitely see there's so much care and thought I saw a thing on Instagram, which was like I at the end of the day, it's a cartoon. Yeah sort So it's sort of No I think I don't know maybe I have some kind of inherent Snobby about cartoons, I should wish I' get rid of. But then again, I did always watch Simpsons, so I don't know likeike Um There's there's The Simpsons traversed. They're quite quick. Are they just a bit too quick for me? I think there's a kind of There's a sort of They often seem quite quite spiky and quite and was quite sharp. was in a way that makes me feel like, oh God well it was like what you were saying before about this Simpsons how they were so engrossed in the you know, don't sit too close to the TV or rot your brain. this was prary It was the MTV generation. Yeah. Yeah where everything had to be Yeah fucking like bright and yellow and actually there right then and then. And now now now we've gone further. now we've gone even further than that. L people can't watch something that's longer than twenty seconds now I've put out Instagram reels that are like thirty seconds long And you can you get the analytics and stuff of how well that video is done. And it is like peopleople watch the first five seconds and then it just drops off. and yeah is Yeah It's sw isn't it A, But you gotta give mononkey Dust to the Yeah I think it's, I've got it on iTunes I don't know if it's still on there I say iTunes. Is that antiquated now? You don't say iTunes anymore, do you be iTunes I don't know. Apple TV And yeah, I still I've to quite rely I was trying to find iTunes on? Yeah, It's called Apple Music. I I think there might be episodes that have been put up on YouTube. Yeah, go and check it out. It's really good, It's really, really good. Jo and James, Jo and James, Jo James. Jo James. Fs up probably say that J just as we did a little cold open there, I needed to go to the Loo before we actually started the podcast so long we were talking for. You know me, I like a little of sit down way. Yeah, that's right. I abst absent mindedly just clked myself on the toilet The sea was up Uh ye The se was up. I'm so sorry little cows. So you were just on the I was just on the ra clin G the shock of my life. I nearly jumped out my skin. Myight Yeah That's why I could said Larry David would in an episode. this is back or something He just falls into the toilet. Anyway An I always put the seat down. I would just like to put out. I never lift the seat up If I'm at home, I'm not standing to piss in my own house Sit down, relax, enjoy yourself. I do want to quest a couple of Instagram ruls or something Anyway. I also sit down to where you just ser on a sure Yeah and Let's do the old podcast, shall we? Here we go. The girls can't stand to piss at all. Argon some good. I know nothing about the female anatomy at all whatsoever I remember one time Claire was having her lease. Just small stop there. I don't know if I spoke about this Mina Claair's podcast before, but there was a Early on. I sort of get the gist of it now of the situation. But early on when I was going out it's the first girl that I've ever lived with, by the way, Claire And and a period started like an inconvenient time we were supposed to do something that day or that evening or something And I said, whyy don't you just sit on the toilet and just push it all out and and go And she was like, that's not That's not how it works. I was like, what if you really like gave a big push or something? I don't know, I know nothing about women Uh Yeah. No, I mean, I don't know very much more, but I know it doesn't I know you can't do that. I don't know I don't know how I'd be able to live If I couldn't like, you know, stumbling home from the pub or something just piss in a bush or something like that That would be There is such an inconvenience to my life Yeah G lucky int We are quite we are quite Remember that. Anway, welcome to Joe and James F That's from the appendage, but it is helpful It easily makes sense to me Yeah, Do know what I mean? Anyway, welcome to Joe and James Facts Up, where each week we'll be bringing facts to one another that we deem interesting and our policy is the more interesting, the more true it is We'll also dig into the weird things that you'd like to think are true, but don't want to research yourself in a segment that we call Fact Check. We're also doing our tournament at the moment Sore the world up If you think that you've got a real fucking if you think you've got the best fact better than anyone else is and send it into us. your money where your mouth is? Absolutely. Our email is hello at Joe andjamespod. com. Our Whatspp zero seven eight two two zero three four, three, three zero. and our socials are at Joe and James Pod And you can watch all our episodes in full on YouTube, just search for Joe and James Fact up. Now Let's get facked up As a fitness coach, my active psoriatic arthritis can slow me down.ith SkyRizz, Rizon k a Mab Rizza. I'm treating my skin and joint symptoms so I can keep moving. Skyrizzi, a prescription only injection for adults, helps me move with less joint pain, stiffness, swelling, and fatigue. And for those who have plaque psoriasis, ninety percent clearer skin is possible. At sky Rizz, there's no daily dosing. It's just four doses a year after two starter doses Don't use if allergic to Sky Rizz, serious allergic reactions, increased infections, or lower ability to fight that may occur. Before treatment get checked for infections and tuberculosis, tell your doctor about any flu like symptoms or vaccines. 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Is this gonna to be another one of those situations where it's just definitely from Sophie? Yeah. And Pete has just been added to the Well who was it?? Wasn't it the couple from New York Yeah. And it was just from her. Yeah, yeah, yeah.. just stuck his name on it. What was that? It's like when you do birthday cards or Christmas gifts, isn't it? I can't write. So so Clareire has to write all of those. There's that sketch with Carolina Hearne and Thompson, Steve Thompson L is time Hm. when it was like, u They were a couple And she'd be rabbing on and he'd be like, rightight? And you're like, Sheell dear.. Oh yeah. Okaykay. So Steve Sophie notot Steve, Sophie. And Pete say. Hello, Jo and James I thoughtought you might like this as you spoke about E seventeen on the pod last week. That would have been a while ago, yeah.. Back in two thousand six, my husband worked in a bar and A seventeen were booked to do a set at nine PM. They s upstairs drinking and finally came down at quarter past eleven. Did one song and then fucked off. Yeah, rock and roll They left a suitcase in the room that they brought to get ready They left Henley's tops and Lacostse t shirts, which were big at the time. So my husband and the other chef Stole the T shirts and wore them for the next few weeks. Love the pods, sov and bit Not fact but thanks is a fan This is a fact. ye. We don't always want facts so we want other bits and buubs? Well, I up think seventeen Yeah, I like you seventeen. Dappointed by this behaviour. Whses behavior? E seventeen. They should have play more than, you know, one song Oh yeah, in that situation, yeah. They're playing play more than one s. But they were the bad stge of the stage maybe. They were the bad boys of pop. They were the bad boys street and they were real. They were the anti take that who I also love I've take that as well See Robbie William Um send me a comment Did he send a comment? He send me a comment on one of my Instagram posts. I did not see that. I just saw what you'd said about me. And I'm a big fan and it was so that was so connia. Oh my goodness. Yeah. I was nice about him as well. was Mikeobilliam's comment? just James was nice about him I would be nice too Sorry. N nice enough. Well, that's lovely One step closer to getting him on the pod? Well, get rid of me. sitt in that chair, obviously. Unbelievable thing to say. They left Henley. I'm not if what Henley's tops are Henleyys Yeah, are they sort of rugby ook these get a picture of And Lacost, I know what Lacosta is obviously the crocodile. Yeah. Yeah how these How's a b Oh yeah, there go with the text. It kind of looks like something you'd wear on the in betweenweenies onweenies. Sure. That's the CBBC version. Yeah. That's like on the teletopicss at the hand like the mini teletops. That the next generation. Yeah. ye. I'm a nerd, I'm stupid. I love the girls. I'm a big U one, two, three Oh I remember when I first started going out with Claire Oh yeah. Yeah, that's quite what like Neil would wear. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. I remember when I first started going Claire Claire's momum sent her a text saying I'm trying to find the incredibles on the television. I can't find it anywhere It' the in betweeners. Oh I'm upset about that The in between is no it's Bet names. Listen b. Stay tuned. There'll be a cartoon called The In betweenetween. I' cash from that it's aive Oh, we've got a message here from Rebecca. I assume she's going to follow up from our It says here barying sausages because we were talking about that It's a follow We're moving on the seventeen. we're just saying fine, you know acceptable form of payment That's just great or's great. I've said it before and because I've got both my ears pierced I had both ears. I had str earings in because I wanted to be like Brian Harvey from Th seveneen. You gotta remember I was Dagnham, sort of Eastce London They were real sort of they were real real heroes where when I grew up. I was in like primary school and stuff. Anyway, Rebecca's got a message Hi. The sausage thing is true You know what? I've heard the sausage theory thing outside of the podcast recently overver the last couple of weeks. Incredible. because The weather, it was supposed to rain bride to be said, I will bury a sausage or something. So yeah, the sausag thing is true. My friend got married last month and she buried a sausage Not sure if it was raw or cook. However, the sun was shining all day long for the wedding. Mind you, she did buy some Etsy spells for the weerer too. So what is that some spells? Christ from Etsy? Yeah. You can buy spells. Yeah, you know about Etsy witches? No. So there's witches that live on Etsy and you can buy spells from them. Okay, R. So like hex your ex boyfriend? Yeah, that's what I w to know. So Etsy has in The shop. Yeah. ye. ye That's where all the witches are these days. They're all Etsy. Yeah. There, yeah, yeah Totally R which it could have been the slage could have been the spells. Recca goes on to say love listening to your absolute bullshit, Rebecca in Durham. A D not take that butout out. No, but to be fair, this's accurate sery accurate. It's actually quite polite compared to what it is. It's like That's what this podcast could have been should have been called. Absolute bullshit. Absolute bullshit. Yeah So the sausce thing is wow, so everyone's doing it's wor.asn't the in betweens going to be cool? Tricks or No, Dickheads, that was it. Dickheads. Yeah. No're like, oh, we can't we can't do that. We can't call a show Dicks. Christian want has called it one, two, four twow, three, four The in betweenween the name of the in betweenween the show came really, really likeike it was made, it was ready to go on television and it got to the point where it was like, what the fuck are we going to call this thing? Yeah. Wow. Yeah Hi is a good name I think is Now it's the right name. O the time I was a bit like, whatever. L you know when someone says the name of their kid and you're like, it's fine. I mean he's not terrist it's just like no The child can grow up with that name, fine. It was it was I remember the attitude being very much like Yeah, no one's got anything better. No No ones suggested anything better than the in between it, so we' call it that In a way that totally match the attitude of the song called an in betweenween the in betweenween? Yeah, there is it's some Darammond Albyurn's ex girlfriend? What was her band called sleeper Is it sleeper Yes Justin Frishman There go it's my era. I think I think the name helped people understand themselves in their school setting th no. Yeah, I think that was a very, very lucky coincidence. Yeah. Yeah Because a lot of people like, well, you know, because it's in between sort of adolescence and and adulthood and they're also, you know, they're not the cool kids Yeah. Well, that was the original thing, wasn't it? Yeah. The original thing was that we weren't the cool kids, but we weren't the geeks. Yeah. We were sort of in between as Now, when you think about the in between as They were fucking lunatic. They were like they weren't They were worse than the geeks. The geeks were fine. The geeks were allright. Yeah. These boys creating all kinds of problems for themselves. they should have just got on with some stuff. Yeah. I mean, it's yeah There'ss a bit of madness to be made in the middle though isn't? when you don't have the attention from either thing. Yeah I suppose one of the Ian and Damon was said when they were writing the show. their kind of unofficial motto for the show they always had in their head was teenage boys and Dickads. So like I think the idea is that Even if you take like a fairly large like median sample of teenage boys, they'll these aren't even the worst ones But they'll be like totally hopeless, useless, feckless. They weren't fuck everything up. Weren't the Donovan y. I mean I think you have to go quite far to the extremes to find anything other than just a general sort of fecklessness. That's what me and all my friends were. and like Yeah We were kind of comfortably in the middle But it wasn't like we were even the most losory of that. we were just there was a pecking order. There's a pecking order. It's just the middle is very big basically. Yeah the number of generic teenage boys most teenage boys. Yeah, I think popular. I think my life would have been a lot easier if I was popular at school I was properular at school but I think I did it by They just be nice See I was I was unpopular I was also really sarcastic and had a joke about everything. I was just I was just a pathetic people please. I was like, I'm going to make sure everyone likes me. No. I'm going to make sure that people laugh at me and find me funny I was unbearable at school. I hate bumping into someone I've met from school And she's just like, o nigh Oh, you remember when like I was just a fucking dickhead? But I wasn't popular by any means at all whatsoever And I was still like bullied and stuff. I was still sort of had some problems with all that kind of nonsense. Like I wasn't a bully at school or particularly main or anything, but I was just I was just a bit of a sort of like, I don't know, I sort of it was really bizarre, I sort of wanted attention at school Hm now I don't I can't think of anything worse I don't want anyone to give me any attention. I'd rather just Come and go N have anyone look at me or anything Whereas at school I was like I'm gonna be a star one day. Fucking unbearable. abbsolutely unbearable Uh anyway And I don't have a lot of friends. from my actual school anymore I got friends that I grew up with in my town, but I went to a different school to my town You left, didn't you Right? Yeah for sixteen. You work Yeahah, everyone has to Eventually Well No, you left the town Dn't you What's that? You moved, didn't you? He didn't you say your parents moved and then Yeah not long you of school. Yeahah, and I was stuck in a town where I didn't know anyone or there was no opportunity to meet anyone. And I had to constantly try and find ways to get back to Dagen. I was like, how I fucking get back to my mates Anyway Hey, Joe Yes. I don't know if you've heard, but there's a tournament going on the. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. Everyone's talking about it. Everyone's going on about it. It's crazy about it. It's just like everyvery single piece of merchandise Every shop has got this just plasted open. Absolutely. ye, everyone's cashing in on this tournament You see those big screens like in like spaces where people are like just go into Bx park and stuff. they're all they all want to know what's going on. Yeah they're all outside Wembley at the moment because they want to they want to watch they want to know what's happening with the world up Um it is time for we round four? match four. Match four of five. Match four of the World U twenty twenty six. Um, hey, we've got a jingle for it How to decize It just by James Andon Jon t no point could that wherear like the first beat of the bar was. So we've got three more three weeks including this one. Yeah, so this week, match five final. Yeah. so for the next three weeks we'll be pitting your facts against one another. to crown the ultimate fact up fact. It's important, Joe important is important. I mean, I mean We're sort of saying like, what's Well the world that we can organize everything around. The world stops, doesnn't it? now that the world up's happening at the moment, you know hotel rooms U crices are going through the roof and people are selling their homes to follow this tournament U so it's a lot like u It's a lot like the Battle of Hastings der. is where everyone just stops everything there is. You know, people are stopping work right now. So like we got to tune in into Joe and James because we could all got to find out the fact those's people having sickies. Well, but even the bosses are going. Yeah, sure. Fair enough, go on. Well they're bloody watching it as. Oh yeah, they yeah, That's why. Yeah yeah. So Joe, I think managerers doing it. that's the boss. So what sft day is it We're in heat four. ere we go. We're in Heatfall. Is that what the actual World Cup' being called, do you reckon? The W It's a football tournament. He It's a soccer tournament. It sounds rubbish because it's sort of America, Canada and Mexico they It's not group stages? It's like heat ys and they probably call the teams like freshmen. Yeah And they're going to get to the playoffs and u that they're feeling pretty embarrassed that it's been scheduled at the same time as this I think it's going be. They weren't to know. I think the coverage of the World Cups be everyone's going to find it really annoying. But don't worry because we've got the world up. Joe, who have we got first? Well, this factat comes from Charlotte via WhatsApp, rightight? Okay, There's a chicken named Mike Oh we can't do this one. Why? What Well it is on it's on the Rickage J ofay Sh, but like I know, but we talk about the Rickage J of Aay S show. we haven't we haven't specifically done this. We definitely have. We've never We have we have. I don't think we Oh no. I don't It's been senty enough for it was. So Charlotte, who has also listened to the Rickage of A Sh has given us their fact Here we go There's a chicken named Mike that survived for eighteen months after its head was cut off. Part of its brainstone was still intact Yeah it was fed with an eyeedropper. That's correct. Also, I met Joe after you showing famam with us here. He was the most lovely man. That wass nice. You are lovely. Oh, thank you. You are very. I'm Charlotte from Red Ruth Cornall U Charlotte, good fact. we all already know and everyone listening to this already knows that that's true Is' a strong fact Um It's mean it became a sideesh, didn't it? It became a sort of a tourist attraction. Yeah. He he used like a pit headad to drop Nutrients and proteins and stuff into it Oh. Yeah Yeah, u He What are you selling J hereere's one thing that I've just that I always think whenever I re listen to the odc the Rickard of Vay'sodcast. Yes But I never follow up. I never sort of go, oh, I should really look that up So the brain stem was intact So was there still a bit of the chicken's head flapping about? I assume that right I things go. No, I think the idea is The idea is that Did he ch bit wonky or something? Theerve the central nervous system such it is is brain, but also even in humans, Some of it is in kind of the upper spinal column, like some of the right, some of the machinery. I saw it's not all just up here. someome of it's kind of down here. A thing came up for me on Instagram other day where a bloke was like He went to the doctor or something. He went to hospital and he was like, saying, I've got pins and needles in my legs and things. And they were like, Well, we can't work it. It must be a nervous thing So they did like a CT scan of his brain and it's fucking hollow He's got like a bit of brain going round his skull But the in the inside of the brain, he's got like a brain If you had a module of a brain They were like a porcelain model where they just sort of used some sort of moould or something That's what he had. The inside of his brain, like ninety percent of his brain wasasn't there And still to this day people, like scientists and doctors are like How the fuck has he got to this point in his life? L like I've heard a similar story as well. I think the brain is incredibly Good Um repurposing neurons. They making connections Yeah if you lose if you can recover from brain damage because the brain will kind of move it somewhere else or sort of lobotom is in a way, wouldn't it? They take out a chunk of the brain or they spike in the brain and said us some stuff but they still evenven though they weren' completely normal, but they'd still, you know, yeah Yeah and no no idet Yeah. I I feel like've I've heard that that story or like or maybe a similar story U But I mean, with this one, I mean, yeah, it's just Do you want to see a picture of it Yes, please. Yeah. I'm sure I've already seen a picture of him. Oh yeah, okay. His face kind of looks like a And I hate to say anus It's It's like a beaver's anus a little bit. Well whichich will do this facts and favours. Yes that's a strong That's a strong fact to be. Well be that anus might start freaking out when it sees this doppelganger. It min Oh my go, I thought that was listen, it might They might share in the final When it' just a squeaky bum to him. Let's see how squeaky the beaver's enus is But yeah, no, it's a true, we all know this fact. It's a great fact Brilliant it com to me the fact that it comes via, you know, the Pilkon show is fine. Cing it's via Pilkington. Yeah ye I think it does it favours Eespecially on this podcast. And and they are listenership U Hey, Joe, is there anything else that we can sort of Its sort of cut and dry that one. It's been we're going over really Really well trodden ground here How long do you think you would last without your head Um If you could if I had what if I had the bit of the you'll have the little Well, you'd have to if you'd have to say how many times I blink I can how many times a blink and then kinson Pilkinson's got a really good Pilkinson was obsessed with beheading beheading it was really good in what's in one version he says the head got cut off and when it was in the basket, it blinked a certain number of times. see how long. And that was a kind of a kind of that was a kind of genuine experiment But then in another version of the story Was there a b?al He kind of misremembers it and says that the body without the head continued to walk. they said He's got it that they painted a line on the ground and it was like walk when he steps by the end, it's justn't be bothered. It was like The reason why people don't do things in the end,. C people can destroys it is always because they can't be bothered. It' like This this couldn't be bothered doing it anymore. and it was just getting a bit annoyed And he said there was the head no, no, And then there's another version where he said, no, no, no there the first version. So the blinking is the correct thing. It was how it was the guy he was a scientist, He was beheaded that he said, I'm going to keep blinking. Was he beheaded because of like sort of crimes against God or something? Yeah something like that, probably. or or no frankly, probably just because he was still maybe if it was the French Revolution, it might even have been the other way r. It might have been that he was still practicing Catholicism and they said, no, you can't do that anymore. Anyway, so Whatever. Well no, but then he was a scientist. Yeah Anyway, that is That's the reaction after listening to the Rickage of V's podcast Yeah I remember listening to it when like years ago when listened to the first time, it was like me trying to connect the dots Yeah with Carl Pilkington mee helping him as a listener, I'd help him Yeah because Ga' and merchant would be like, come on, mate. Yeah. So in real life it was the scientist was blinking. Pilkinon had it when they when it was just the head. Yeah, he said They chucked a load of questions at it. Yeah. And it was answering. And then he saidays by then, it couldn't be bothotherered to answer. But isn't the funny Aazing Isn't the funny thing about that is it's like, o what's that story that you said about the beheading Yeah. And he had gone from blinking ye Oh yeah and there wasuck chuckking a load of questions at him. And then after that it becomes that the body is walking along a line U they drew a line on the phone Anyway, so yeah, the u The Yes Hey Listen, I think it's some U the teuther that always stands out to me is that it was called Mike just a sort of you know kind of B standard name. Yeah Really Sort of like. It's a brilliant fact Yeah and with the ny drooper. Yeah. And and we know we know it to be true anyway And I'm sort of predposed to put Chara three because she's so said so as a lovely man in Falmouth See Yeah. that's Brownie points. You know. Well, listen, let's take a little ad break And then we'll find out what Mike the headless Chicken is up against after some stuff that you can buy I suppose I can buory some stuff. Why not? 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With ACast, you can access the world's largest podcast marketplace Choose the right shows, the right audiences, the right format. Then watch the data tell you it worked. You're not buying impressions. You're buying influence. Learn more by visiting acast dot com slash advertise Joe, we are right that was halftim. those was the halftime whistles. Yeah, halftime whistles just gone. Maybe we could do a little whistle ound effect Sound effect or something I don't know. Um This is one of those situations where me and Joe should be more involved and maybe give you some ideas. That's okay. It' say about recording inststead of getting towards the end of the tournament and being like, Hey, it'd be good if we did this and did that. But maybe we'll do all that. and then by this episode everyone will understand why. Brilliant. So that's nice This one are I do like this name So Joe, we would just talk about Mike the headless chicken And we're going to find out now what Mike who Mike is up against. And this one comes from Monty I like that name Yeah, I like it, Wty. What's the first thing you think of? Wanty done Oh, Monty Don. Yeah. Oh, Monty Python No, I wasn't even to go there My great grand had a dog called Monty. Monty That wasn't what I was thinking of either A sare burns. Oh Mony Bs. anyyway, I think they're all I I seem as Montgomery Yeah, Montgomery burns. Yeah, but I think Montgomery more than Monty. Anyway, Monty via Instagram says a day on Day on Venus Y It lasts longer than a year on Venus I love stuff like that I love that. So it it takes Venus longer to turn than it does to go around the sun. Eactly. which is Amazing. I that is amazing It is amazing. Have you seen that? I mean, it seems a shame it's going to be difficult for us to May well, you know, do you think well is experans This is this is this is the group of deaath. This is group of This is a real group of death. bothoth these. Both these things. They are both quite should maybe go through. They're both quite Geavvasian as well actually, I think they like all space and stuff, don't they as well? I love space, Dub. You've seen the pictures rememember this you remember is before we were born Did when they went to the moon? No, when they the Soviets sent ship down to Venus No and took pictures of the surface and stuff like that. It like it lasted It lasted for about half an hour or something before it was completely destroyed by the So it just got burned up, but it did send some stuff back. Yeah. But They got to the surface It went to it went to Venus's surface. That's amazing. I think Is there a lot of pressure on Venus or something? there's something going on Venus? it's So unhospitable, Venus 'use that's the irony. He was always like, Earth's twin. like when they first started doing astronomy and stuff like that A lot of people say theored. that Venus was another Eth. But it is so like this f' chuck full of sulfphur and all sorts And my aw f I wouldn't want to go there in holiday Al you could u for our year there U And you wouldn't any. If you book seven nights in a hotel in Venus, let hell. Can I u recommend there's a really nice song. for children ready about planets I't want It's Nursery Ryes one two three, the planlanet song Pretty good Do you want to sing it? Do you want to sing it? I want sing it So go U The one about Venus he goes, I am the son. I'm a bing for the fire I'm very big Hang on a minute. Isn't that just our house is a very very No no, no isn't No, I don't think so. O house is a very, very very nice house. Anyway, the verse about Venus goes I am Venus I'm the same size as the other but I spin the other way. It does a much more slowly I have no water. I am Venus goes at that.

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