Revisiting the School Musical

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Less than ten minutes a day, every day, subscribe or follow side Hustle School wherever you get your podcasts. or find us directly at sidehustlesschool dot com ACast helps creators launch, grow, and monetize their podcasts everywhere AkS. com Hello Thomas Hello, Today we're going to talk about the second half of grade nine For people who don't know me and you have been friends sinceil you were twelve, that's twenty seven years. and we've been going through grade eight and then we started going through grade nine, but you had to see it your own child. You felt like there was an issue with your own child that was more important than this podcast. There was a teacher knocking on my window. Yeah.'s it because you're sitting outside of primary school with your like headphones or a microphone in your car It could be, yeah. My child goes to very progressive preschool where just as he's transitioning in, I have to sit outside in my car and if there's any problem, therell come a knock on my window. That's so nice The children are so happy. And that's God isn't it Yeah They say like an alien Well' yeah, it's kind of confronting because with the other child, I just kind of pushed him through the door and he They scream, they scream and claw at you trying to say, don't don't let. And then you tell yourself like, oh, that's just how it is. That's fine And then you go to this one and they then like Oh it's not like that What does it need to be? Wh just be nice to the baby Yeah. I wonder if me and you screamed and cried when we were sent to primary school In my hand, I sort of feel like my parents would have been like time to go and I'd be like, thank you. goodbye Bye But that's not true. We would have been little bitches. Yeah. Well, I had a girlfriend so I would say if someone hasn't listened to grade eight and nine, there's no point listening to this Go backwards. This is part two of grade nine What happened so far is Tom thought that he was caught up in an organized crime ring. I think we got to the end of that story though What we didn't get to, which is important, is the first time I ever tried alcohol kissed a girl and then went down on a girl, spoiler al lot, I suppose. And also our drama teacher, Miss Davis, has sent me this clip because in grade eight actually we did an original musical that the drama, music and dance faculty wrote and choreograph. Like the teachers wrote it And then we did a cast recording and I had a solo in it. I think a spoken sort of singing solo. Yeah, it was a kind of fzz speaking spoken word. I'm gonna play that for you later. I've heard like three seconds have of made me feel pretty like E goes for a minute and eleven It's really hard, man. But it's like I was eleven. L I can't just sit here feeling ashamed about You weren'tle, I did when I was e. You were eleven. You weren't eleven. You were thirteen Great. Jif thirteen You would be shocked how much it sounds like I'm eleven. You're not getting away with saying you're eleven. S I need everyone to know you were a teenager when they listen to this. twwelve May is your birthday. You really put that musical on in the first five months of high school Okay, so I was thirteen God, I sound like such a little I sound like a little girl And then and then and then I'm my tour. I actually do it in the middle of the chat otherwise no one listens. I'm going on a world tour. If you want to come Joshomas d. com today you. That's it. That's the whole pl. I need to clear something up too Oh yeah. Can you read that text that I sent you about what we were talking about last time This is kind of like a plug for my own self respect we record it. and you never you know text me after you've never had anything that you felt needed editing so far, I don't think. Well, once you saying, can we take out your child's names? And I was like, yes. And then the second one is, this is a text imunemy. I feel embarrassed about saying I was like that guy in the Keith Rineier documentary and the podcast He's such a loser. And obviously I could have been sucked into a cult at one point in my life, but I don't think I would anymore. I feel embarrassed that I stoop to that level of self deprecation because I don't think I would get branded when it came down to it I don't think I would get branded when it came down to it. I don't think I'd get branded when it came down to it either. No, of course, you wouldn't get branded There was maybe a point in my life where I would have got branded, but I just need to believe that I grown up in the last twenty seven years to the point where I wouldn't have Keith Rinieri's name branded on my pubis. Yeah This is one of those things, isn't where I just sort of thought you were joking. and then now you've texted me about afterwards and I've realized You've tried to make it seem less like you're the type of person that would get branded, but the fact that your message afterward is worried makes it feel a lot more sincere. And now I think that you think that you are the kind of person that would get branded. You've actually made me feel like you're more branded boy than if we hadn't revisited it I just want the audience to Enjoy the character growth Okay I think that's a more fulfilling entertainment experience Yeah okay. From season one to season twenty seven. In grade nine you would have got branded. one hundred percent I don't think you would have by the time you were eighteen, by the way. I think you've done this personal growth in between the age of whatever age. you want to say we weren in grade nine to nineteen. I think you I think you solved it. Unless she was, I mean, the girl that got branded in that documentary was really hot Yeah, you could have got away with a lot with you. But also a lot of very hot girls have gotten away with a lot with you. So she was there. so she could have gotten away with a lot with you because she looked at you for a couple of minutes, straight When you were eighteen. That's true. Nothing you said there is incorrect. There won't be any text messages after the podcast But not anymore. Absolutely not. I would hope that one of the things about having children actually is that it is a prophylactic for joining a cult and getting branded. Like who has the time It's like when you see a new dad and they start going to the gym a lot. And you think, how do you have time to go to the gym a lot? And then you just know that the mum's at home just like in agony, while this dad's making himself hotter. If I saw a guy join a ct and get branded with like two little children at home, more than feeling disgusted that they got branded, I'd think Why aren't you just so busy with the kids? Why are you looking at old hurt? Well, okay, here's my insight on that, okay. I definitely get freaked out when dads have super good bodies. And I also am frustrated that I can't let myself have a good body for fear of freaking everyone out. I was that reason why That's the only reason why I can't have a six pack. I don't want to frighten people And I don't want people to think I'm a neglectful father. But I will say that actually when you watch those cult documentaries, there are often children there. and I would actually say that one of the main benefits of being in a cult would be the extra adults Childca s. Yeah. I think actually that would be a huge poull. The first time I ever tried alcohol I was at a sleepover grade nine. You weren't there Do you know why you wantt there Because the only reason why I was allowed to sleep over is because the three girls, Jen, who's still our best friend Bab and Alicia, who I were not really in regular contact with When I say regular, I mean, in the last twenty years, Noah. And they had me sleepover. and the reason why they were allowed is because they lied to their parents and told them that I was gay Because at this point in my life, I wasn't gay And actually, I don't think I was gay, which is something we can talk about. one hundred percent disagree as that guy on the subway would say. Well we're really going to get into it. I're really going to talk about my interest in women here in this chat And then I did that thing when you go into like the liquor cabinet and you take like like half a centimeter of every liquor and we put it in a juice bottle. And I think this was the first time I tried alcohol. M knew then we had some madori that we stole at an underage discover. I think it was after was that boy who and he was really upset. Yeah, he marched off and we freaked out and we threw the last mouthful of Madori in the garden It be Which hurts to think about now. What because we thought it would be too much. We'd had our fair share. We'd each had a few sips of Madori. Delicious. And when he freaked out it just kind of, I think I was quite scared we were gonna get arrested Oh we thought we were going like get in trouble. Yeah. so quick, quick. We just throw it in the garden. But it was so thrilling as well. We threw it in the garden and we ran after Nick He was so ashamed of us Was with Coca Cola Disco? It was like Coca Cola branded, which is so odd. That feels like another era, doesn't it So we had the alcohol, we went in the pool and then we were all in bed watching. The movie A Gazmo actually is a funny detail of this story, which we all thought would be like a naughty movie to watch, which is like the creators of South Park made this movie that's like really dumb where somebody invents a ray gun where you shoot people on the street and they have orchasms. And the whole movie is just like one montage. It's like only one montage in the movie that's kind of famous where they just walk around, they shoot like a grandma on the street and she starts like humping her walker That's like the whole reason why the movie exists. And we thought we'd cheeky. it was boring. and The two girls on the outside of the bed fell asleep and then I was on the middle Salico And then she just started kissing me, right? I had no idea this was a thing. I just had't crossed my mind that this would be a thing. And she ss kissing me and she's not a good kiss of Tom. She's not a good kiss of. She keeps pushing her mouth against my lips so roughly that the inside of my lips were rubbing it's my teeth. And then that ground opened into like a wound. And then I was like swallowing the blood because I want to be polite, you know because at that age, you're just so scared of making anybody feel uncomfortable or like being forwarded anyway. I'm just like swllowowing the blood, hoping that she doesn't notice. And then she goes to go down on me and I have far out Heelan fourteen Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like a real like island as well of like I didn't touch anyone for like another year. It was just this occurrence. She was like a cross country runner She really wanted to live, you know I really wanted to feel things. The other thing that's funny about her actually is afterwards she was like, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm really into fat guys about me. Wow Yeah, she was like really inter fr factized. Which is such an interesting thing to work out when you're fourteen. She is so fit and you' kind of like kind of like a paypig type fixture. kindind of like a She just thought that'd be like a chill thing to say to me. And the truth is, I was happy with. I was fine with her. I was like, okay, I was getting, you know, was getting this su in this little chubby cank this girl has at fourteen She was me, but she I' just de falcro on my pants A board shots. It makes like a noise. And then our friend Jen, she rolls over and then this girl sort of freaks out a little bit, comes up and starts kissing me again. And I'm like, oh my God, no, I can't do this. Like I just can't, I'm like, you know, that cut would reopen for years. It was so bad. I don't know I know you've heard me tell this story so many times. I didn't sorry, but've never I have, but I've never heard you say the words would reopen for years. No, no, no no. It's not true No it is you would have said the cut from that person kissing me is open again. You would have said that No, no, no. so it created this like line on the inside of my lips, this like painful ridge that was there for like so long. You don't even have a top lip. Hey I I know lips Fin know lips. Oh my god, all at least the Lampineelles here the Queen of M Okaykay, okay, I'll believe you for this story. S I went down or not? And look, I know this doesn't help when I say this doesn't help me seem less gay, but mostly I went down or not just because like vaginas don't have teeth, do you know what I mean? I just needed I just need like a safe. But I was really into it. I liked it a lot actually. You did. Yeah I like this. 'use it doesn't sound like you were thinking about it. It sounds like you were just trying not to offend her. I guess when I retell the story, I don't want you thinking too much about my like little like My little the corny little stiffy, like like creep little like kid like teenager stiffy, like being so whorny. I was horny, but also like the whole thing was so distracting. it was a lot. It kept me straight for a long time because I was really into it. And we used to always at littleittle lunch in Australia as a littleittle lunch and bigig lunch, which makes the country sound a lot more quaint than it is. For some reason only a little lunch, M and her would stand there and she would just kind of U like touch her finger like the back of her finger to my stomach And I would just stand there with like a stiffy for like forty minutes, so into it She really kept me straight for ages. Did she have braces? Was that part of the pain? No, no, no. She just was pushing, She was grinding. She was a cross country runner, you know, She was so strong. And she was pushing put my lips into my lips was like, there wasn't braces No, it was all my own teeth cutting me. And then we had to wrap it up because she started dating another fat guy M W we forot this for other side. ass going down on that and then pw way through Jan lifts up the quilt and me and her make eye contact and it was like like it was like even in those nature documentaries when they're filming like the lions eating the tigers and the lion like spots the nature group I like that What do you think Jen was thinking when she saw that? Sorry, it wasn't a line eating a tiger. That would be cannibalism Am I needing a zebra L were gent things. I thought I was like, Hey, should we go to another room And the girl said no There was another room. That's always confused me. Well, I think the danger of it was probably a huge upside. Well, she kind of was I guess her first time is wow And she kind of got to have friends there, which would have beent very like safe and companying, I suppose. Kind of perfect. Yeah. I can see how the second you walk out of that room attention is gone. She's not breaking any rules. She's private secret. Also do you think I guess I hadn't sort of realized that maybe I hadd walked into a honey trap Do you think that they all I don't know if Jen, our friend would have known No way was Jen on board with that plan. No way was Jen on board with that plan, but they might just not have told her. But I think the other girl might have known that like the part of the goal of the night. I don't think that they weren't talking about the fact that This gl is wanting to kiss me now. No, I don't think they were discussing that I think there was like a buzz of excitement maybe that there was A sleepover happening and one of the people there had a penis, maybe a slight little kind of No, but this girl really was into me. I didn't know this. Was she really? Yeah, yeah, yeah The whole thing went on for ages You know she ended up marrying your high school bully's brother? Oh, that's okay. Che's Christmas with your bullies I can't remember his name. Do you have anything else you want to say about grade nine?, Join me to play this tape for you. I feel pretty sick about listening to it. I want to hear it. Did we really finish the story I was telling? I don't want to let anyone down. They were on the edge of their seats. We got to the ends, we found out that it was a lie. I was like, actually this isn't like a funny story. It's like a really awful thing to happen to you. It would taking years to process. I think it really would have destroyed the way you moveved through the world for the rest of your life And you were like, ye And then the lady knocks on the door and I sort of thought, that's an okay way to end. I guess I wondered if you ever spoke to her about the fact that it was a lie. Oh, that's a good ending. Yeah. It texted her when I met Emily. Like ten years ago. Yeah Emily was like, you've got to contact her and it had been so long since high school that I was like brave and like I didn't care enough anymore. And I was like, Oh yeah, I could just Ask her. She moved schools as well. I think is an important thing. She moved schools. you found out and then she moved schools. We went on a big trip to Germany and then when we came back she was gone. I feel like it was connected. I feel like maybe her parents found out orn somethingt think that all this was going on Other people found out it became like the hugest thing for her to try and juggle 'cause she'd swarn other people to secrecy. and then one of them went to her parents and I think that was N at all But I messaged her on Facebook and I was like Um, Hey, how are you doing? I just wanted to ask all that stuff with Rich. That was totally made up, right? And she replied, Unfortunately not Wow, haaven't thought about that for a while. Tk a lot of therapy to work through that stuff. Maybe some of it was embellished, but no it wasn't alive. The fuck. Yeah. I still think it is because I don't think she maybe remembers the embellishment, the details that I was really locking onto. This is an incredible twist likeike she told me she had a special suit made that was the exact replica of her skin, so that that's the reason I couldn't see her bruises that were being inflicted by these men. in hard in a horrifying way So I don't. I think that was the same day that she was really upset. because of the bruises inflicted and she was being very surly partarticipating in class and the teacher came over and said, What's going on? And I said on her behalf to the teacher Miss Just leave it Yeah, that's what you used to say to meal all the time. Just leave it And I'll be like, oh, I just just Okay guys Oh my go, that's so intense. The whole thing is so. It's actually not that fun a story Tragedy I think today I'd come over arist last night Were you in love with her? Was she in love with you? I don't, I don't I mean, what is love We spoke to each other for hours every day on the phone. and then I spoke to her Alter egos hours as well. But no, I think looking back if it's a sort of teenager doing that, I think oh, they the love of each other's current life And they're going about it in an extremely ill advised way. They find it Stbing. Do to listen to this thing from my school musical So the musical was called Teen Stars. Teen Stars. I can't remember the story. I know you Plete played a kind of mad professor Jay or something, my name was. I just found out today. what it is it was like the era of Australian Iidol being really popular. So it was like these producers come to the school to make teen stars. And then I think that somewhere along the way they realize the producers are evil. and I think maybe the school turns against the producers. And I think I'm the doctor. I think I'm their like expert trying to convince everybody I don't know I ha't listen to. I't listen to them I wanted to listen to was you. I quite like that story. No, it's a good story. yeah Who knows if it's the real story? It's called Rub's Formula in brackets with Josh Thomas Teen stars. Okay Thankful. This is really quite easy to understand Perhaps I could share a through our formula In determining we take the weight of population asity represented by eer and multiply socioeconomic indicators. That's the yes t into consideration Be the birth rate per capita denial attention rates of local fea schools is divided by G the growth projection rates based on h historical data multiplied by G the development of planning approvals. And this is divided by the toals of the total budget allocation. So they had a catch all the scores to close Wow. I know what I said that I'm stking I wish you'd say something. Well, do you know, I want to make fun of it, but I am so impressed actually. you. Yeah, like, you thought I showed early promise. Absolutely. Like to be honest, like Listening to it now, I remember the buz because I was in the audience I wasn't in this musical