True Crime Obsessions And Sleep Habits

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If you want ino want that, you go to joshthomas. com d.u. alsoso please like me my TV show that I made like so long ago, actuallyually now, like over ten years ago, iss now available to stream absolutely everywhere in the world, absolutely everywhere find Where to watch that for free at the same website joshthomas. com. au. Thank you so much. Now here is an experimental episode of Josh Thomas and Fs So what we're doing is we're doing this live stream because my dream has been for six months now that me and Penny would do these live streams where people can call in And I've got my podcast, which is Josh Thomason so I talk to my friends. and then I wanted to do like an after show. that's like I love like I always wanted to do like old school talkk back radio. I'm always like jealous of people on the radio that can like take callers because I can't be on the radio obviously because of my personality and the way my voice sounds But you know what I'm saying? could we could do it in like a small way. and I think that'd be fun. that if I try and get penny to work out how to bring a guest in during this live stream that she might combustant that she might turn into dust to the ch They just click on it. Fuck you. Okay, Penny' just gonna put the link in the chat. And if you want, you can just click the link and then come in. Hello, Joshu Tasania. mee and my partner are smoking fat cones. Oh no, am I allowed to say that on YouTube? I like that to be banned sixix minutes in. Is is a thing YouTube does now. can you call in? Okay, so no, it's not a thing that YouTube does, but it is a thing that we can do through this app that I'm using, which is why it took us so long to connect stream Motion, which we found out today I've been paying eighty eight dollars a month for for the last six months and I didn't even realize. So that was upsetting. that character was at a certain amount of pain. Penny just had a flicker of sincere grief cross our eyes about eighty eight dollars a month. and it's spepending on that streaming service for us to be able to take calls and then we never ever Did that? Where are you dowing the liveestream from? This is my office actually Am I bringing my new showir to Hobar? No, I'm not going to Hobar this year. And I don't know why. My God, you've just put the link in the chat. Anyone can just click that link and then you'll be in there Bassle booth, isn't it? That feels reallyose So okay, hello, welcome to this YouTube live stream I'm Josh Thomas. and what we're doing is we're testing out whether it's fun to have people call in and you' just chat to me And I think we had plans to send people the link privately in the chat, but we don't really know how to do that. So we've just put the link in Like we've just put it in the channel and just anyone can click on it. So just completely unvetted which feels like High stakes. they're going to call and attack to me. but somebody's like, no one's even clicked on that This person asked me Are you unbanned from grindy yet? Yes, I'm unbanned from grinder. And I was a fucking nightman. Can we talk about it? Yes. I mean, everybody knows about it, but every so often I get banned from Griner for impersonating me, even though I am me actually. and I've always been me and I'm gonna to be stuck being me for a really long time. What's so annoying about cryinger is there's no It's just like, sorry, goodbye That's it. It' sorry goye you got an empty screenays this fedted by a human. There's no way to get help on it. And it's like I've had that account for like twenty years. all my there's people in there that are like friends that I have sex with. and the only way I message them is through Grinder. and it made them all think that I blocked them. So I'm getting these messages saying, did you block me? And also I've lost all my chats. it's not just like I pour effort into Grinder. I've built something there and they've just taken away from me And also grrinder is so expensive over the last few years's got so expensive. You you can pay five hundred and fifty dollars a month for some like grinder AI thing. My grinder because I need the like top level security settings is like sixty dollars a month I'm paying. They just cut it off one day. I mean, that's my gym membership is half that. And there's a building and a human being in the Frances, and there's an isant grinder and you can't talk to anybody instead just show you fucking Madonna. I don't want to see Madonna on my grinder page. Madonna just did something sponsored by rain like the fifth person on everyone's grain feed now is Madononna, whichs so fucking annoying I don't want her there. I want Madononna on Spotify. I had to like post publicly and get like the social media manager grinded to unlock my account and I head back now. But I haven't been very steady lately. Someone gonna come in Yeah, I want to talk to Brian Shaw Wh are you there? He? Who are you This is my mum and me Hello maam. Is your name Bria? I Wh are you? Oh where are you In New Zealand. Oh, how's it going in New Zealand? I'm u Hey wouldould you want to tell me about your life? How old are you? Oh, alm seventeen. We have a bird rescue. Bird rescue? Yeah. What kind of birds have you got We've forgot none of the mom. but I got no birds with the bird rescued. When I was a kid I had I rescued two birds. I had two rainbow lgeets that their flight wings, they didn't grow. and so they were kicked out of a nest. And you know, rainbow lgeets are so gorgeous. We called them Birt and Ernie without realizing it was a gay reference for these rainbow birds And they they could never fly. We just we'd carry them around all the time. And then I think the most mad I'd ever been at my brother in my life is he put them in his bag and took them to the school fate and was like walking around with these two like rainbow lowerings like couldn' fly at the school fate. And I was so disgusted. I mean, I was like nine years old. I was so disgusted that he would put pure enough, I think. Do you think so They was so precious. Wait you want to see Chrace? Yes. This is Gracees You're so right to get us to bring Grz into the chair. But she has a fringe. fre, yeah Siling's looking me in the mouth What she likes Yeah. Would you let a dog look you in the mouth No, I should I don't mind. Pe don't like it because they think they're going get worms. Oh, this was fun. f I wonder if someone's gonna join the chat again or if it's just me and you. It's a shame that you don't have a mic as well. The highlight so far has been the girl telling me that she's a bird rescuer and then I said, what kind of birds do you have? And She said, There's no birds. Hello How are in Clearwater, Florida. I'm going there. I know Oh go that. Oh yeah, doing a sh. I know I so soome. I kind of is it gay there ayase. Not in clelearwater, St Pete is very gay, which I. Pet Very g. Okay should go to. Peter. I recommend. you should You ask C water, What's clear water Florida gonna be like? I've only ever been to my own Clearw is not the tea. It's in between Tampa and St. Pet' sort of Cital of Scientology Fort J. What's Fort Lauderdale? is Clearwater, Fort Lauderale? No, Fort Lauderdale is closer to Miami. Okay. I don't really think anyone's coming to my show in Clearwater, Florida. I think it's Ipisort like fourteen tickets. You're gonna come, Just me J just be this. Just this again. A you me. What do you think I'm supposed to do on a YouTube live stream I didnidn't even know that you did this otherwise it would have been here a long time ago because no I don't do this. I've never done this before I feel very lucky to be part of this inaugural. We're just testing it out. We're trying to see like if it would be good to do it and then put it into a podcast. I was supposed to come up with a topic for us to talk about, you know, like old school radio. but I forgot that bit. We spent the whole day just working out Halloween streaming software. Yeah, I was half. Yeah.' really It is working now. That's good. When I heard you guys talking, I was like, that's way too much work for me. So Penny, may're not Neith of us really know how to use a computer V very relatable We are learning though now Your art is about your life and you're living your life right now so like really That's nice.'re doing Americans are so supportive, aren't they? This is definitely the mostciting thing that's happening at two or three of them Is at what time it is there I'm so are you really worry me the clearwater Florida shit and knowing that I mean, it's fine to stay here for like a night, but like I wouldn't make this like your your hangout zone. We just did that. I just did a podcast with my friend Lally about because we both live between America and Australia. We're supposed to talk about America, the things that we liked and the things that we didn't like, but we mostly just complained The thing about America that really surprised me is how analogue it is. but I don't think if you're an American, you understand what I'm saying, because you guys Yeah, I mean, the first time someone gave me a check, I was like, are we in a play? Like why you why are you using paper and the DMV having to print stuff out and take it to the DMV all the time. I have DMV twinys. That's Someone else is going to come in. Okay Oh nice to sau you cat. It fun Hiy, Rox. You need to do a camera on if you don't Yeah I'm not gonna put my camera on, but thank you. I' so f. So I brought a topic with me. Fuck ye. I wanna talk about the monogamy versus Poly episode. Yeah please. I live in Berlin, Germany, and as you probably know, it's like Poly City up in here. And I've always been monogamous I identify a lesbian, but I went to a wedding and met a Bye guy who usually only dates guys and I usually only date women, but somehow now we're dating And it's the first time in my life that I've considered pooly. Because you want to be able to like kiss gals as well. You don't want to like you you want to be able to Is that why? Like does that happen? Yeah, like I don't know. I I would have never even thought about dating a guy. So Yeah, I don't want tona up dating women. What was it about him that got you like cross the threshold? Oh no, I was so confused. It was the first time in my life where I realized like, okay, w sexuality can be fluid. and hh Like I still would also not date other guys. like I would just date him. It's just something about him. I don't know. We un it off. He's so special, this man. so special. I love I'd love to town somebody just once, you know what I mean just once I've hooked up with two boys who were like curious that they didn't stay gay. I was the end of the journey. it was c fact and it ended with me. And now you're like, okay, so you I've never been Mocchamous. I've never done it. I remember my phone's boyfriends like six months in he was like, I think we should be open. I never even thought about my life and I was like, sure, and then I just was. And then now I wouldn't I wouldn't date someone and be monogamous because like to me, it's like almost like it's such a part of my identity. Like if somebody wanted, if it was important to them that we were monogamized. I think we were a match, like if they were like a Republican or something. So for me, I find it really like straightforward People are nervous about going poly because I don't know. why would you why why would you be hesitant to about it? I mean, your episode really open my mind up to it. I think without the episode, I probably wouldn't have even like, you know, everything's about our fly effect chain reaction But why I've never considered it in the past is because I think logistically, like my life is so busy. I barely have time for myself and one partner And then like planning wise is like how do you do How do you go on vacation with all the people you want to go do? I barely comp in plan a vacation . I only have one boyfriend, but then in just like in sluty. But I feel like gay men can just be like such access to like friends with benefits in like an unomplicated way that I don't think translates to everybody else that easily 's fair. Buts not that's not like the equivalent to Polly, though, is it No, I've never. Maybe some of the boys think that we're dating more than I think that we are. I realized that recently that maybe in my twenties I was doing that more often and there are more boys out there that thought I thought it were just buddies and maybe they so maybe I was Polly and I didn't realize it. I found that when I broke out with my boyfriend who it He had that I was dating these other boys. I was like, I never dated anybody Actually, I think I think maybe I was. I was like, Oh yeah, we we did like go out. everybody's like a person that wants to like meet someone at the door and then hook up with them straight away. And if you like you want like a connection with the person Th yeah, that is complicated. I don't know.s I just feel like the miracle of finding three people who are going to be chill all the time. Well, I mean, I am dating also a woman And I am dating him. So like right now it's working, and I'm like doing when Yeahah, when is the but it's we're not none of us are ex like it's all early days Like it's been two months. so it's not like nobody's committed. We're not saying, oh my Godd, you're my girlfriend, you're my boyfriend. But God, that sounds fun to have a girlfriend and a boyfriends in Berlin. Does't? That's like the first part of Cabaret, the movie before the Nazis come That's a good bit of cabaret I'm enjoying it. I think I'm just waiting for the other shoe to drop. or I'm also just waiting for him to do something that gives me the ick because like there's a reason I don't date men, you know. Yeah, I couldn't take a straight, man. he's bied. I think that's the only reason why is very He's giving J. I think also like people when they decide to be open or be poly Because it's like new, they like think ahead and all these issues that might come out. but like being monogamous with somebody carries a whole lot of risk as well. Like any choice carries inherent risk in this life. and then you just see how it goes and every day you just decide if it's good again that day. That's what I think. Yeah, no, I think that's an amazing motto and that's kind of how we've been doing it two we also like, yeah I will tell We just take a You've been into P Kine? Yes, many times. I only asked you that question because I went into to frag and telling you that once I got let into Pain, you know a Hawaiian shirt. Well you know, it's not really about the clothes. But I mean a Hawaiian shirt. That's like the most bad ass thing I've ever done anything. No, I mean, it's definly it's definitely a brag But it's not about the close. It's about first of all, do you belong to the queer community? That's like the most important thing. Is that obvious or not? And second of all, you care if you get in. If it looks like you do, you're probably not going get in. Really? It's hard to if I look like I could I did care I think you look pretty unbothered most of the time on the outside. This is the second person that said this to me lately and I sort of thought I came across as like anxious or something. Well, this has been nice. I'm glad that you did the concept of the podcast concept do this is supposed to be Th I put a podcast episode out that's a theme and then we do this chat And then people talk about the theme. And we and Penny just had a dream come true. Thankks to you Oh sometimes. The boyfriend's here, were live on the liv stream should be in it? O you b some new clothes Let's show them your new clothes Oh, come on, show them. Oh please, Bronze Snake. What's Bronze Snake? Is your special little store that you went to? Is it my boyfriend? Yeahah.. Grace really loves him a lot more than she loves me. It's been painful as a network show. What's the little shot there Yeah, ye yeah. Yeah, trying on a war No, you don't want to rather die at the moment. we're having a lot of issues in the house because Grace is so deeply in love with Joshan. She doesn't really look at me if he's here. And what she does all night is she just stares at him and she goes over and she licks his mouth while he's asleep. And Josh was like a really deep sleep as I walk in and Grace would just be standing over and he's asleep. and she's just looking inside his mouth. And I' say Grace now. And I pull her away and just she sits on me and stares at him the whole time. I mean, I've been up for hours and hours. You don't know how much time I'm doing I pulling this guy Small animals really like Josh, they always think that he's their brother. Yeah. They don't respect me, but they just think. Oh yeah he's sort of his dumb is name. Lthing like your family. Are we going to your mum's later Yes. Eddy asked me if my mom was gonna cook when I was buying the t shirts and I said I don't think everyone was gonna cook No. they's just gonna order pizza. The shop assistant looked so disappointed in me and my mom. She orving pizza. She was like, Oh, well, I thought like she maybe thought it was gonna to be like a mom's home cooking chat. Oh it's like what you gonna make? What's your Yeah Just Leslie Cook you know Christas At Christmas time I went to Jeoshother's house for Chrmas and Lesy she did the ham and chext and they drove over it And she I was in there. She didn't really want to tell me. She wass like, I ran I back over their. I said, what do you mean? And I said, canan I see it? She wases, No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. And I was said, comeome on, let me see it. And then she got it out and there was literally like a cartoon Tamar. L see a cartoon on the hair back She still cooks us at the Christmass lunch. we're probably having left of a hand for tonight. Bria is back Hello, Brian.. Doave you have any feedback on the live stream so far? Not really. It's been pretty good. What was the highlights, you think talalking to you, but there it feels likeselff it. Did you like seeing my boyfriend? I did. I liked seeing Josh. His outfit was wimle. I brou him that shirt O call. I have a good for you Yeah, I'd love a question. What do you I don't know if you have much anxiety, but I presume you do. If you have anxiety, how do you how how How do you dose life?on't I was anxious when I was younger. deffinitely when I was your age, I was really anxious. And I think you get to a point and you realize nothing really matters that much. Well what are you getting anxious about? I have a fear of what that. Okay Okay And how often is that happening around youune? What people are out, notot often of like the anxiety and pexood daily. Oh arere you worried that you're going to vomit M. Doesn't make you struggle with food. Oh yeah Yeah. I never. Oh that's tough. How do we fix this? I feel like that's a question for it . Yeah, I don't think I know. wait, tell me what happens. So you go out and you're worried that people are gonna vomit and you're so worried about it that then you kind of like can't be out. Is that what is happening? Yeah. I was That sounds so hard Oh was house Really? A two a year and a half This is gonna sound ridiculous, but like unfortunate Please like me does help me get out of there air a little bit. How? It's comforting. It's a safety. Company Yeah, I get this a lot from people that watched it during like a hard time of their life and not not anything to do with the show other than I suppose that Everyone just the people just kept being there It's Yeah and it's like It's real, like it's real life. It's not off the place Please like me feels more real than literally anything else. Yeah, we've really tried to make it real. Wh I don't know how much we should keep talking about your vula because I don't know anything about you being scataphonic. I don't know anything about it. But what like What would happen if you saw someone from there? I'd probably run away. there were. I like have a panic attack. I don't really know. I know in the Christmas episode, please like me, John throws up, sorry to mention him But my I know exactly when that bit is and I will skip that bit. Yeah. Oh yeah, that seems tough. I feel like the thing that I always think is tough, I imagine for people who have this kind of really extreme anxiety is that you then get anxious about being anxious. So then it kind of gets into like a loop that gets into like like you're worried about gettingting worried. And then you get into this feedback loop. and I even know how get you get out of that. It's very strange, but it's interesting it. Oh, someomeone used to have the same fear and they grew out of it Just the Also you're seventeen, I kind of feel like this is such an annoying thing to be told when you actually are seventeen by an old man. But like when you're seventeen, life is so hard feeleelings are so big and everything is just like It's just like A lot And then eventually it just stops being like that. Does it just stop h or annoying It really is It's good you know it just spike. You know, people generally get less anxious over time, although not everybody is, some people fall apart don't they H Can I ask you about before when you said that you run a aboutd rescue, but there's no bs Wow You need it because the birds are okay at the moment is why? They're fine at the moment. There' like baby season. We had a duckling the other day, but it's not alive anymore. Oh it died Oh. The survival rate of birds that come to any rehab is like thirty percent. So we kind of expect it. Oh my gos, you're really painted a spooky picture of this house. I'm so jealous of you because you've like ve traveled around and you've got to see all these amazing birds. Oh you love aboutds. Are a Twitcheruh? A Twitcher Do you know this term? a Twitcher is somebody who is like a bird watcher? And they did like a study on bird watchers and they actually got this like really intensitive endorphments from seeing a bird. And that just make me jealous. I wish I could get such a thrill from seeing a bird I kind of feel that. Like, you know, those people they like have their little booklets and they note down what boouts they're seen Got it Wait, I got to look so close. I don't have a I don't have it written down but it's field New Z New Zealand Yeah, there ones on there that you really, really want to see There's many that I want to say, but like Most of the cool ones live in Australia but have been blown here in the wind one time. Oh, I see. they just like stumbled in Yeah, so you've got all these interesting birds. I think the bird's probably a pink galar D't you think? Pink are, they go in those big flocks. I like those. I remember Lin someing theen because of the story that I told you before I really like. I like an ibis actually. I think people really mean about ibises. They're incredible birds and they're survivors. Everyone calls them binge chickens. They have those incredible beaks that they evolved over thousands of years so they can put it in the mud of a swamp And then we came, ruined all the swamps and they adapted and now use their big long beaks to go through bins. and everyone teases for them. And I'm like, No, this is an amazing story for the IibS. They're overcoming adversity. Hey, thanks, Briar Thanks for calling in. Thank I think maybe I've caught anemetaphobia Yeah, I think I've caught it I think I'm now gott to be so annoy for you Josha. I started being I could just see this look I could see this look in Josha' eyes as I decided I had something wrong with me Oh not another thing No another thing A. But All'd have to go back to Kat. Hello, Kat. I was just gonna say, I think this is excellent. This is really good entertainment. I don't really use for it But I did come up with a question. So I don't know what you watch, but I've been on like a true crime thing for a minute. Have you seen on Netflix? this new one called maternal Instinct? I cannot believe you have one that I haven't seen 'use my boyfriend, he likes to fall asleep to tr cime. he goes to bed a lot earlier than me. So what I have to watch bed Yeah, he likes it playing It's so sad. Do you see him so sweet, so cute And he's sneeping and then playing true crime and it's like and it's like and then she wenthind just to the blood And he's like, so cozy there. And I know. I have to listen to it. What happens in the tunnel instance? So it takes place somewhere in the midd of the Cowboy land somewhere and there's this chick and she is like deeply insecure to the point that she becomes, I mean, she's got to be a sociopath. She's a compulsive liar. And she meets this guy, He's like a bull rider or something, and she's like, him, that's my dude. And she's just puts all of her eggs in this one bass year egg and she's like, I'm gonna to walk this down. I'm going make sure he never leaves me She starts this whole pregnancy Wait, I've seen this. Yeah, yeah, you. Yeah, it's crazy I could not believe these fake pregnancies. Wait, is this a TV show? We listen to podcast, aren't we? Well, I don't know it's the same thing. Oh. the baby out of her and takes her baby The girl dies and the baby dies And she's still so delusional that she's like in the hospital still claiming that that was her baby that she gave birth to. The doctor comes in and examines her is like she was not pregnant. She definitely did not give birth. hours It only. It's wild a life baby out of it. What have you seen this one? Gosh, my love, my sweet Just a trailer on the for him. but it wor I watch these findings with him, right? and he falls asleep every time. He's never found out who did it. He's never was the only one who knows Yeah, he he has no idea. And then I always that on the end. I feel like you could watch March of the Penguins and get the same effect. You're absolutely right. sometimes if he's worried about not getting to sleep because they put on softiceo ks him out. likeike that's some of those special occasions. You you know This is such like a niche bit of media to consume.es you want have one of one of my dads at pam and I think what a way still be asleep in six minutes. I'll just put on Sakus O. I think I think if you you watch twelve minutes of suckus O My wriend falls asleep before