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So there was I slightly concerned that the fan that I've got running in this small bedroom was going to be all noisy and would getting in the way of people's enjoyment And then I see that You have air conditioning Okay, well to be clear about this, Simon, I don't have air conditioning because you know, I live in an old chapel in Cornwall, but I'm not there I mean Croatia because it's same as last year, it's the Pontalopur film Festival. So I'm in a hotel room, which has got the most delicious air conditioning. And also outside, the temperature is not what it is in London, which I've just looked on the app and it says that London is basically on fire Well, That's not quiet But it's certainly it's certainly tropical. When are you back Uh back on Monday Back on Monday for, you know, for screensings first thing, ten o'lock Monday morning My guess is when you land it's still going to be pretty pretty steamy because the thing is the nights are very hot and the days are pushing forty. so it ain't no fun and When we you know the heat wave of ' seventy six, which people told and I do remember the heat wave of ninetighteen ' seventy six, but I remember it only as a wonderful thing because it was just like a summer that went on forever And now becausecause we know and understand more, it just feels scary I know I know if only there was some way of explaining it in terms of global change? I mean, is that I don't know Anyway, I suppose Croatia is a great place to follow the World Cup because as you know, Croatia are in England's group So what do you make of the the World Cup so far from Croatia Well, as you know, I'm not watching any of it. you're in Croatia, Well they love their football in Croatia. I only got here. Look, I only got here last night, right? Okay? I arrived at one o'clock and they lost my luggage. So so far that's been the thing that I've been focusing on. Can I tell you about the film festival? Because's really exciting. What have they lost then Well with the bag with all the clothes, of course I carried with me all the recording equipment because having having been in a lost luggage situation before, I know to take with me all the recording equipment. And all your pants are in your luggage Please don' put that image into any of the listeners minds. Well, just saying they're thinking about it anyway By the way, my door is open as you can actually you can see. the door is open because it has to be. So it may well be that Child three who's moved back in because it's cooler here than his them Good ladady camacist may well appear at some stage as well thinking, whyy have you got your door open? It can't be cool Well, I mean, the upstairs room in your house is the hottest place I've ever been in my life. Yes. And you stayed there on on the hot hottest there A few years ago, which is forty something. You walked from the tube. wearing exactly the same clothes and you slept fine, as I recall. So, it was fine. It's because I always felt very calm. Anyway, thank you for asking what I'm doing here at the festival. I'm doing a thing about, you know, the role of the critic. Yes and talking to filmmakers. There's a there's a whole brilliant music thread here that Sanna Perit is running. They're doing this thing about Mariconi's music and they've got the Dubrovnik syymphony orrchestra performing the music of Eia Marconi. It's on Sunday night, which is going to be brilliant And what is the pointur of a critic? I don't really know, I think to sort of you know to sort of swan to turn up at festivals and say, hello, you know, how interesting? Let me talk to you about some films and now let's have some food Um We' got screening of One Love with the director, Ronalda Marcus Green. Anyway it's going to be great. It's going to be fabulous. and I'm sure everybody else will be talking aboutot football, but not me. Are you going to be on stage Well, I mean, I mean, on stage, it's like it's in rooms and you sit aroundound with other people it's a very intimate film festival. It's very much for filmmakers and you know to discuss filmmaking and have there's practical workshops and all thatort stuff. It's great. It's really good. It's my idea of a film festal because you know, it's very small and compact and intimate and everyone gets to spend time with each other When we finish talking, I've just decided I'm going to go and stay in your chapel. Great because Okay The hottest it's getting today is twenty four And so I think that would be quite a nice place to be. So in Cornwall. Have you left the ket in your particular part? Okay So have you left the keys under the doormat like normal?s in it's in the key safe and you know that you know the combination That's right. zero one two seven, I think that's the bottom like that. Yeah. Okaykay, that's good So I'll be in there along with everybody else. Okay fromre heiewing later when you get to do, you know, when we work out what the role of the critic is, what are you going to criticize? I'm going critique I'm going to be reviewing five hundredundred Miles, which is an adaptation of Y novel, A Private Life, which is a French language film starring Jodie Foster, who has that annoying ability to be brilliant in more than one language And and I know you've been waiting for this Jackass best and last. Now I should say that Supergirl opens this Friday. but They didn't screen Supergirl until as late as possible, which is last night, Tuesday night, at which point I was in the air. So we will review Supergirl next week, and we will reserve judgment as to why it is that they held back screenings of Supergirl until the last minute Our special guest is Pierre Cofin, creator of the Minions. And the writer and the director of the latest in the franchise, Minions and Monsters. S thevers Exactly. a conversation with Pierre Cofin On the way and intake two The last Viking with now, give me a correct pronunciation on Mas Miklson. you always say better than I do Maz Megelson. Maz Mgelson And How to Live on Earth, which is a documentary presented and narrated by Benedt Cumberbatch, who doesn't get to say the word penguin Okay, that's a shame really. So and just you probably know all this anyway, but you can get take to ad free by heading to our Patreon page. And it's the last week of our frankly scandalous and unapproved ninety percent off promotion which runs until twenty three fifty nine hours next Tuesday. Just use the code june nineteenth S of Joe check out and acquire the ability to watch the production team read out the most insane comments about us from the YouTube channel P plus loads more discussion of film and non film stuff. Why would you not? We should also point out that immediately after this, we are doing a live ultra, which will have happened by the time you're listening to this, but we haven't done it yet Yes, in which case, Brother Jim R Monk We'll have emailed in about a few things and then we'll T you for that Now as an email from Judith And there's there's a typo here and unless I'm being really dumb and I'll blame it on the heat A sure what she means Anyway, Judy says, Dear street cat Bob and Mabel L Hw many thanks to the discombobulators on the team. for their reverse peacock which we played last week has elicited nothing more than mild irritation. Okay Millie the Tabby, who is mildly irritated by everything and moderate puzzlement The greay and white loaf who meets the world in a permanent state of moderate puzzlement. Loaf The grreay and white could that be fal and it's a typo Oh And I looked at a loaf only I mean, obviously it's a loaf of bread, but I thought maybe Sloth, sloth. What is kip is the greay and white w can't be a loaf So Simon Paul has written It's the name for a cat pose where they tuck their paws underneath So a grreay and white cat So they look a little they look like a little loaf apparently Okay New to me. Anyway, ahead. Thank you, Judith, who says longtime listeners including Mark's audio books, fourth in the under thir just Marks audioobooks. fourourth in the under thirteen' backstroke at the Paramatta High School Swimming Carnival nineteen seventy seven, Vanguard Easter, who can't find where to put the code to get the patreon discount and one of two pins on the map Now I would say launst in Tasmania under the I witeret. but apparently becausecause they're foreign, they say Ln Seston Oh Lon sestant But obviously, if you have any knowledge of British geographher you know it's Lonon. Yes No. in Tasmania, it's Lonestin. Loncestant. Intly, can I just say, don't be annoyed about her only listening to my audiobooks. She would listen to your audiobooks if you read them, but you don't. No, it's because I'm not an actor. No I know, but that's fine. So it's not there wasn't any snub involved in that? It might not be intended, but it was certainly taken. Okay as such. Evan Deer dancing at the disisco bumper to bumper, Wait a minute, whereere's my missing Rembrandt and he's not even the best Jared in the movie. Greetings from Dublin, Ireland. Thank you for helping us out there. In case you were thinking camewhere else. On the recent thread of animals sounding like infants in distress. Yeah, Simon mentioned the cry of a fox sounding like a baby Well, in Ireland, there's the Bani, a female spirit who acts as the omen of death. Legend had it that if you heard the cry of the Bani across the fields, this was a har binge of the fatal demise of your nearest and dearest. In reality, it was a fox How is this film adjacent? Well, there's the bansheese of Ininnnerhheron, of course. The Fox's cry of Ininnnersheraron doesn't really have the same ring to it Bansheee also features at the end of Darby O'Gill and The Little People, which scared the proverbial out of me as a kid. Have you heard of Darbie O'Gill and the L? I have, yes.t I'm just trying to remember what the cry sounds like, though. And is in in anshe's finish Sharon. there is a character isn't there? Theres There's a character who appears to be the banshei The harbinger of death. but it's a fox. Anyway, Evan says how is this exorcist, Jacason? I'm not sure I'll leave that one tomorrow probably isn't. Well any kind of weird cry or voice thing is obviously exorodist adjacent because so much of that is to do with the weird voice of Mercedes Mcbridge I bet you Mercedes McCambidge could have done a brillant impression of a peacock and probably the peacock backwards.. Exactly. In fact, a possessed peacock. Yes, and a tortured fox and all of those Okay. so it's correspondence at Codomay d. com That is our email for you to participate in this charade. What else do we have? Oh yes, let's do a movie. Yeah, five hundred miles, which is a bitterseet, tragicy comic adaptation of I think it must be a young adult novel by Mark Lry. The novel was entitled Charlie and M four hundred and twenty one miles from home And here the four hundred and twenty one miles is rounded up to a kind of proclaimers only five hundred miles Sript by Malcolm Campbell directed by Morgan Matews, who's got a background in documentaries, award winning documentaries Fature credits include X plus Y Brilliant Young Mind and Railway Children Return. So on the poster Big face, Bill Nooyi Bill Ne is this Westvland grandfather whose Sheffield based grandchildren, Finn Rayan Griffith Davis and Charlie Dextas Sol Ansel. run away from home after hearing that their parents played rather well, I think by Claire Dunn and Michel Setcher splitting up risking splitting them up and they have run away to go to see their grandfather in rural Ireland, which will involve a long We learn through the voiceover that Charlie was born prematurely, has health issues and Finn has always felt fiercely protective of him. And this is putting a great weight on Finn. and it's his idea to run away in order to prevent them being split up. The film flits backwards and forth in time from the present day in which they're doing this journey, this five hundred miles to memories of the past being in Dingle, having a great time with their grandfather, everything being happy But somewhere in between, the grandfather has done something terrible. We don't know what the terrible thing is, but we know that it means that the boys are no longer allowed to speak to him. So basically It's a kind of time traveling why a coming of age road water movie, in which the methods of transport will involve trains and boats and inevitably horses And you know that It's an emotional journey and that the miles travel the psychological miles rather than just physical. And of course the destination of all of this will have to be some kind of form of family reconciliation On route. Fin meets up with a ukulele brandishing busker played by Maisie Williams. Now I like Maisie Williams a lot, but I have to say it it is a hard role not to be toe curling in. We first meet on a train with the Ukule murdering the passenger. And then later on she takes a very clarification She's not Nore not murdering a passenger on her train. firing the passenger pop. Yes, exactly. So not murdering the passenger, but murdering the passenger which is put that a crucial plot difference And then later on takes an enthusiastic swing at Road to nowhere. and I have to say It's funny becausecause she says,es, I've been playing the ukule all my life and you think it's funny because you sound like you've been playing it five minutes. And then elsewhere there's this kind of very tinkly piano score with strings coming in to underscore tragedy. and there there's there is a lot kind of fairly straightforward fiddley D music choices. And for the most part, it's kind of amiably morkish sort of you know, family adventure with darkness fair. the heart of it is this thing about what is the thing that happened. When we get to the thing that happened, it turns out to be the film's biggest problem because it's a sort of It's a plot a wild card which which in order which I have to be honest really doesn't work for me and provides the biggest tonal challenge. And the reason it provides a big tonal challenge is that essentially I think that what happens is it's it makes it sort of too traumatic for the younger viewers and too Just try. for the older viewers. So it's like there is a film going on that's sort of derailed by the by the ambition of what the revelation needs to be That aside The location work is, I mean, obviously the locationations look absolutely fantastic. It's a sort of it's a somewhat cozy a vision of I mean you remember we were talking before about it's impossible to have Irish pubs that you go into in which there isn't somebody standing at the bar and immediately somebody else starts playing fit and everybody's playing mus There is a little bit of that, and there's some magical dolphins and you know, that I'm not entirely happy with either. I think tricks No, no, no, it's just it's just an appearance of aquatic life thats that kind of becomes symbolic of you know, of of the possibility of future redemption. So I think the problem is it's tonally trying to balance two different things. One of them is sort of, you know, actually well played sentimentality and the other is something deeper, something darker, which I think which may work in the source novel, which I haven't read I think it doesn't work on film. I think in the end, it kind of makes it fall apart. But there are some nice performances And and to my You know, to my sort of slightly jaded sensibility, there were moments in it when I was swept along by, I mean, particularly the young kids, they're great. I mean, they're really good and I really like being in their company. I just think it's got a tonal shift that it doesn't it doesn't know how to manage and doesn't Okay, cororrespondents of Codeme d. com if you see that and want to take issue with Mark or just agree with him disagree. Yeah jobs in I guess oase an exam Still to come after the break, Mark is talking about Jack ass best and last and a private life. and our special guest is Pierre Kofin. the inventor of the minions button Righty H Bookxs office top ten. Cang on, before you do that, can I just say in the very quick what would have been an ad break for anyone who's hydration break? Yeah. Yeah Child three made an appearance and I have to say, Ch Child three it's like the old Morkaman wise joke Open the fridge, light goes on. he'll do five minutes never knowingly underault. Yeah. No also, he'll only do ten now. five is he doesn't do five. ten, he'll do it five. No I don't think so. as for the up and coming H Right at number Troublety twelve Yes Right, this is Gareth in Birkenhead. After listening to Mark's review Evio Blani. we settle on that Well, what we said was it is pronounced different ways, depending on where you're from. I had the director and star on the MK three D show at the BFI. and they said, it really depends whether you're from there or from somewhere else. I said, well, how would I say it And they said, well, you should probably say Ei a blaina like that. And I said, Well, I can't do that and sound convincing. They said, No, well just in that case just, you know, just take a punt. Heavy a blle then I had to search it out even though that meant finding a place to see it during a business trip, and I saw it at home in Manchester on Monday That's as in home, capapital H, not, not at his home. At the end, I first thought Is that it But it stayed with me so much so that When I woke up at Hour past four in the morning, it suddenly clicked. The opening felt overwhelming, almost like an assault on the senses And the whole film is a roller coaster The lead Chau to Les Guen Winthon brilliantly conflicted, a real jekyll and hyidee you're constantly torn between empathy and frustration As Evie stumbles through situations, many of her own making and somehow finds a conclusion It also felt personal. My grandfather left Tanagrishi in the nineteen twenties for Liverpool rather than face the slate minds, the kind of difficult choice people there still face Eby feels like part of that same story. The music and shifting cinematography added to real depth, a wonderful film D down with the down stuff and up with the uppty stuff, but it just oh and thanks for blah blah blah, Keep up good work from Gareth. So Gareth, thank you very much indeed for FO bllayout, but it's not is not in the chart as far as No but I'm really glad you sought it out. I'm really glad you saw it because I think it is I think it is a remarkable for. I think it is one of the films of the year. That central performance by Lisa and she was explained to me that it's Gwen Klean like that, which I can't do easily, but Lisa Gwen Klean she is fantastic I mean, it's based on a one woman play. And although obviously there's an ensemble cast in the film, she really carries it and she is amazing in that role So the rest of the chart, we'll zip on through to number one, which is what most of the correspondence is. then there'll be more in the overflow car I can take to. Anyway, number twelve is Virginia Wol' Night and dayay. Check out our interview with Tim Spul from last week, who was in very fine form, was also on his boat Which was made made everything very exciting. I mean, I think Night and Day iss really good. I think it works really well. It's called Virginia Wolf's Night and Day, although it departs very much from the text and goes off in its own ways. But I think it's really well directed by Tina Graavi. And yeah, I encourage people to seek it out. It's a small release, but well worth checking out A numberber ten is the Deil Wears Prada two. Week eight in the chart. So this is probably the last time in the top ten. A UK, number nine is cocktail two. So this wasn't press screen. this opened last week. This is an Indian Hindi language romantic comedy drama. If anyone's seen it, send us a review. Eight here, seven over there, the Baby Yoda film I mean, what else is there to say other than that your child one who's a huge fan? quite liked it, but thought it was TV episodes strong together. UK number seven number ten in America is Michael. Apparently now the most financially successful old box of a successful music biop pick, pop music biop pick of Es, which just goes to show it is It It's a bulletproof movie. you know, it's not a very good movie. It's a very functional movie, but it's It has a gaping hole at the heart of it, but it has been hugely successful. Masters of the universe is six here and six over there. Right, Shiley Shiny, colorful, not much substance, but entertaining. Number five is backrooms, which has done terrifically well. I mean, I really liked it. You don't need to know anything about the web series beforehand. A couple of people have said to me, do I need to have any of the backstory? No, you don't. If you do, this won't contradict anything in the web series, but you can go in completely blind as I did when I saw I only saw the web stuff afterwards But I think it's great. Scary movies at number four. I mean, I I yeah, I I yeah no. The top three in America is the same as the top three in the UK. Three is obsession which is fantastic and cost Thrumps and has done terrifically well Disclosure dayay is it number two which didn't cost Thrumpence and has done, you know reasonably well, but obviously in comparative terms has been outstripped by these sort of younger cheaper directors And the box office number one. And once again, it is very number one U It's like fifteen million as opposed to one million. disclosure today. Toy Story five. Yes. So let's zip through some of these. Go ahead. Tom Stewart, as someone who has watched Toy Story in real time, beginning with the first film when I was ten. I am so very disappointed in what I just watched in Toy Story five. I avoided Mark's review until after watching the film, agree completely. It didn't even feel like Toy Story five. It felt like a side story in the mold of Rogue One in the Star Wars universe. Woody and Buzz were supporting characters. Youve got a friend in me who was barely used. Perhaps I could have been more forgiving if it had been advertised as Jess's story rather than being part of the almost impeccable Toy Story lineage It didn't even really pick up where Toy Story fall left off. I thought we were going to see how Woody makes it back to the rest of the group and ultimately finds his way back to Andy and then emotionally hands Woody to his son I went to the cinema on Father's Day with my wife and two children with tissues in my pocket at the ready, expecting this to be the tale. to be told, but I'm saddened to say it was more a case of trying to stay awake. I now feel I have a messy, snotty tooy story three cry built up inside of me and I'm gonna need to find another outlet. I don't even remember laughing in the film. More than sad, more than disappointed, more than angry, I feel grieved. Tom W Carl says, Dar Mr. Potatohead and Mrs. Potato headad. on the top of a toy store and after hearing Mark's thoughts on the pod last week I wanted to share my take on the theme of tech versus toys Yes, it felt like an unnecessary sequel at times with a thin plot and more confusion than laughs. but as a mid thirties millennial I wondered if the film isn't really for children at all But for those of us returning for nostalgia while starting families of our own As teenagers, we were the first left alone on the early internet, an odd, fascinating space our parents didn't understand Somewhere along the way, we felt that we left that version of the internet behind Now as we raise children, it's becoming something darker and more addictive, something we barely recognize. Watching Toy Story five, it struck me how much the adults seem to be tethered to it Combined with the film's muted tone and loose logic it feels, Less like a children's story and more like a reflection of a generation still trying to make sense of what we created downown with heat waves and up with Kings of the North. How many kings of the North do you want, Carl They can't be you're either king of the North or you're not. they can't be more than one in which because if there are more than one, they'll have to fight Anyway, that's not what you'reiting about. But an but an interesting point from a A mid thirties millennial Yeah, I mean, I can I just say on the subject of that I wish that I felt that that was what it was about. But my problem was I't I didn't even think it was about that. I thought I have a real problem with how little I think Toy Story five is about which you cannot sayve any of the previous ones. E Toy Story four more subtext than this. It is something. to explain to those of which have children of a certain age that the internet when it started was that place that c No that is No, he is absolutely right and that thing about which our parents didn't, you know, which parents didn't understand and it's There was the analogy used, wasn't it? which was just like it was like you know, opening up a highway and saying, go and wander across that and see how it goes You know, yeah, just just very, very strange. But I think the problem with Toy Story five, particularly where we are in that debate at the moment is that it isn't adding anything It feels like a very, very old fashioned discussion of an inverted comm' new issue. Jim from Southampton This past Thursday, we went en masse as a family, ten in total, right to see Toy Story five at the showcase in South Africa. firstirst. Well, wow, fantastic that there is something that you can go. and this, I would say, would be the perfect environment for which to find all the good. And I don't know what this email is about to say, but this sounds to me like the ideal viewing environment to see all the best in the movie We took over the back row of a packed screening, all excited to see the latest installment, the ages that attended were seventy one, forty three, thirty nine. nineteen, sixteen, fourteen, eight, seven, five. And three. Wow I wonder if the seenty one year old or the three year old was the most trouble, but bothed feeding just to keep going. That's less of a family outing, more of a focus group. That is incredible, isn't it really? Okay, well, first of all, Jim I'm impressed. Yes. Second point, hereere we go This excitement quickly turned into utter confusion within the first ten minutes The opening felt like it was going to be an in movie advert for the new Buzz Lightyear Ty, but no this was the actual start of the movie This confusion continued amongst us grown upps with an all over the place narrative more confusing than tenet Add in the Are you crying yet? Are you crying now? emotionally forced moments and the complete extinction of any soul or magic I left feeling genuinely grumpy, the exact opposite of how I'm supposed to feel at the end of a Pixar movie Maybe at forty three I have finally outgrown this franchise that I'd grown up with Maybe this is what the next generation wants. Well, all I can say is that I saw multiple children walking around, going to the toilet and a complete disengagement with what was happening on screen. The most gathing review came from my child for my child three quote. Can we go home and watch the proper one now? Love and miss the shows, Deve. Thank you, Jim That's okay Can we go home and watch the proper one Yeah, that that in a nutshell is exactly it. Well, two things. first I'm sorry that your family outing was not better than that. I have to say I'm kind of slightly relieved to hear this because You know, when I reviewed the film, I had no idea what anybody else thought of it and I was very down on it. and I felt the same thing about, you know, disappointment turning to kind of crossness To have gone with an age group that goes from thirty to what do he was? seventy one was the top. three to three to three. Yeah And and and to come away with that, yes, exactly. The plot is all over the place. The emotional bits are button pushing. and can we go home and watch the proper one There that's it. That's the perfect review But finally, Andy Silman just wanted to share with you something that my daughter told me. Okay about about her taking my seven year old grandson to see Toy Story five He said it was ten out of ten But what was more interesting was that he initiated a conversation about how much time he was spending on his tablet or on his games console. He said that he thinks he should be spending less time on those and more time playing with the other toys I thought that if that message gets across to more younger children, then that's not a bad thing keep up the good work, down with the usual nonsense and up with everything that's positive. Okay abbsolutely. Well there's an interesting take from hisone who liked the film and was determined to spend more time with other toys. Yeah, well, that is an entirely good thing and if the film provoked that reaction in somebody then good for it More discussion on current films including Toy Story fiveive in the Overflow C park in Take two, av available via Patreon in today's Take Ultra, available exclusively to Patreon Ultras unless I've melted which Mark won't. you might have to do it on his own because he has air conditioning. loveovely and cool here. It just really it's refreshingly crisp. It'll be time for Carpe Stream. yourour guide to all the things you can't miss out on streaming services this July. Please don't use the june ninety discount code to get ninety percent off ultra tier membership until the end of the month because we'd be making a loss and you wouldn't want that. So our guest this week is Pierre Coffin, the French animator Voice actor. director prodroucer and writer and best known for co directing four films in the Despicable M franchise. as well as being the voice and creator of the minions. You'll hear my conversation with Pierre Confin after this clip. the film By the way, I'm Gary Orham Oliver Magma Igaba Deceiver My friends just call me Goomy for sureort Sry, James Aw James! Rolls off the face, Kendrel. Jame! Is that Any? Hey Bellllow. Heyy. Oh, I like it. It sounds tough and rugged. It's like, oh look out! here comes Padway! In I ined That's okay That's a clip from Mions and Monsters. It was written and directed and voiced. A lot by Pierre Cofin, who is our guest. Hello, Pier, how How are you? Hello Good, good. veryer nice. Thank you for having me. Well, it's very nice to talk to you again. Congratulations on a joy filled ninety minute cinematic experience. everyveryone's going to have a hoot, I think and they' good. And also intriguingly, I think it's going to get to the end of peopleeople are going to say, I need to go in and see that again because I think I missed half the gangs So anyyway, that's my opening statement. introduces toinions and monsters. Where are we with this film? So this film comes from a place of me not wanting to do mininion movies anymore Yeah, because you know I've done three despicable meies, one minion movie and then I sort of helped out on the others in terms of voicing, but I really, you know, I didn't want to do one more of the same. But One day, Chris Malandry, the producer called me and said like, okay, you're going to say no. I know, blah blah, blah. But hear me out. and if you could help me, they would be great. And so he pitched me the idea of like minions wanting to make a movie, a monster movie, summoning a monster or building one, or wasn't quite sure And then you know, the monster would turn against the minions and start destroying Earth and the minions would have to know sort of correct their blunder once again he had me at at Minionss wanting to make a movie because from that moment onwards, I I sort of knew that I wanted it to if I was doing it. I wanted it to happen in the Hollywood in the twenties when this film became when film became an industry and I could reference like, you know people coming over from East Germany and building studios and making films There was so much context that I knew that I could I get inspiration from just to nourish, just to surround the minions Putting the minions in that context would provide me with sufficient matter to make this this new movie hopefully original and hopefully a little bit less like the others And did you make the right decision, Pierre having decided that you didn't want to make any more movies Were you always convinced that you made the right decision to make guys? Were there Were there any moments when you thought, what have I done I Well, I'm asking that myself now that the movie is about to come out. Yes. J because I'm wondering like, is it funny enough? This thing is more of a timepiece. So children maybe will not get that aspect of things, but then I tried staying faithful also to what made ominions dominions. So I guess it's more a question for you than for me. Okay. Well well like I said, I think I want to go and see it again because the gags come so fast that you need to sort of go back just to write them all down. I think who? It starts with a group of people being shown around one of the Hollywood studios. and then the tale is told of the two original minions around which this whole story begins. Wh are the main minions that we follow through this story, Pierre? So the main protagonists of of this story are two minions called Henry and James And James is the creative one. I really wanted to at the core of this movie is The core of this movie is just friendship between two minions. They meet They befriend, they become best friends. and then because of James's creativity, He likes to draw ascult. and ultimately when he discovers cinema, he wants to make this movie Well, that sort of breaks, you know, their friendship. But then in the end, obviously, you know their friendship is going to be back again. and in the process, they're going to save the Eth and the universe there is this silliness on top of that very serious James the minion who is drawing all the time. Is that you, Pierre? Because that's what you do. I don't know Well, yeah, that's what I used to do, but it could be, I think any anyone with a with a creative knack, I guess, like a musician or sculptor or whatever, I think lives that sort of thing like lives for his passion, but not sure that he's going to be ever recognized one day and you know, gets in a way of like, friendship or marriage or whatever I mean, that's the lot of anyone being creative. I think, yeah, I've read stuff that this was movie about me, but I don't think it's I don't think it's me. And the making of the voices, which and you are the voice of the minions What is just takes us through the mechanical process of that. Do you speak in the same way and then it's adjusted later on or How do you go about voicing these different? It's a multi step thing because on this movie I got to write, so I put them directly in a context where the context would be helpful to understand what dialogue would be about So that's that was the, you know, what we learned over like a couple of almost a couple of decades now uh So it's a mult step process where I write a scene in this particular instance. I know what the scene is about. I know what if there is a conflict, I know what it is about. And so I know that I need to find like a little music to say like, okay, well, there iss ainion who As for instance, is a leader and doesn't want They've been fired from making films. and that minion wants to go back to finding like a new boss. But there are three minions who want to continue making a movie. So there's this argument that's just dialogue based that we find a little bit of physical comedy, but it's mostly dialogue based and hopefully you get through the melodies of each character's dialogue, that there is a conflict about this and that and that there is going to be a bridge that's being cut at that particular moment. But do you do different voices for Henry and James or is that altered? No, no. I mean, in the process of things, it's just me being recorded in slow motion back in real time and that's when the pitch sort of appears, the high pitched voice and as for recognizing different characters, I need to modulate and act, I guess, like differently for each character. Like we have this dick character who's ainion and the minion antagonist. And he's stern and very not really nice sounding. Obviously, every word that comes out of his mouth doesn't seem like a compliment and the other guys are more pleading. And so it's there's that contrast also that helps out And in the way I guess I perform Hopefully and with the animation you get, you know what everyone is saying. What does a screenplay for a film like this look like Well it's all written in English. That's one of the things also we learned because initially we start I started writing directly in minies, like all the dialogue, but then we quickly noticed that no one else could read it, accept us which was nice and not nice at the same time. And so in this one, we went directly to English and then went gradually to manyion these as we went to storyboards And the script is constantly rewritten for three years up until I don't know, like four months before the end of the movie, but it gets constantly then and massaged. Maybe it's because I've just got the Wor Cup on the brain Pierre. but did I pick up reference to Mbae andpllatini? Yes Okay, so but's a lot of you having a lot of fun here ye I mean, it's not it's not really I'm not sure you go to football directly. I'm not sure people know Platini anymore. So it's all about it's all about you know finding a word that sounds Minionese. I'm saying Jiuli was also by the way, like Okay at the very beginning of the movie. And does the Minionese change in any different regions around the world? Do it does it alter? Yes, it is altered and it's all altered by me because I heard what D't did in all these different countries and I asked them to stop doing it because it felt like a they were not understanding the process properly. And so what happens at the end of each movie is that apparently I say a lot of swear words like in different languages. So all these different countries tell me that I shouldn't not say that. So I have to find like alternatives because somehow I name un nameamable body parts here and there and you know, whatever. And then I spent two other weeks just saying words appropriate to each country like plot points. in this instance, I have theinions say a lot, big b, big bus, because they're searching for their ultimate bs all the time But in South American countries, they preferred that I say like a grande, grande. So I have to do we do all that in all these different languages, except Chinese because I really can't Chinese. And why do the minions constantly look for the most evil person to work for? What's that all about That's called retro engineering becausecause we did despicable O Mie, and we sort of discovered that the minions were working for this character grew in that first movie. And so we found it with Brian Lynch, my co writer, we found it'd be funny to have them create this mythology of them wanting to to always serve the most evil master they could find. And we established that with the first Minion movie as a short opening credit sequence where we see these yellow little cells following this black cell, which is clearly eating all the other ones. And then we go from there andort show the evolution of them yellow creatures following, you know, the bigger and baddest creatures Yeah. And speaking of baddest creatures, we end up with a huge blubbery orange beast. I wonder what you're hina Yes, well you call you call it Irene. I think most people might be thinking you're trying to say something else what am I trying to say? About another orange beast who lives in the White House. Oh my God It neverccurred to you? No no, never. You're the first one to bring it up. No, no, Re reallyally not o I won't be the last. let me tell you, I won't be the last to mentine it. Is what are the things that you maybe one thing that you would like us to know about this film that you wish we did, right? Because I'm sure that this is a labor of love has taken you many, many years What do you think we should understand that we probably don't understand about the making of a mininions's film? Man, that's a hard one. I I I mean The thing I think that people should know is that the script is in constant evolution because Again When you make these sort of films, you're sort of asking the audience to pay a little attention to what's happening. Otherwise you don't understand like, you know, it's not something where you could start cooking or doing something else and then you're listening to the movie, that doesn't work because the voice and the understanding of the action goes through multiple aspects of the filmmaking thing, like the camera angles, what the characters are actually doing with their bodies and And so Sometimes I write a scene where, well, it's not working. I can't convey what the script is needed to convey. So I need to change everything, like the context, the characters that are talking them give that that's how att a certain point, there's an antagonist called a minion antagonist called Dick Cly named Dick. Yes And he's we needed to have we realized at the middle of the movie that we needed to recognize him. So that's when we started giving him a stick or pipe because he loses his stake at some point. And so this was a figure of authority. and so we had to retroactively put a stake back in his head at the beginning of the movie. and just has to recognize him. So it's a constant it's the chance that we get making an animated movies that we have three years to do it and we have relatively the, you know, a relatively comfortable budget to be able to swivel things around and change things to make them better, hopefully. Last question, Pierre, imagine for the moment I'm the head of Universal. Andm I'm in the hotel there with you and I've got a great idea for another ions film. What does Pierre Cafin say? Pier Cofin is at a stage where he doesn't know if he wants to make another movie again And it would have to be like like a like a really, really, really good pitch because that one was and that one really at the third word that Chris Melldundry said, I knew that I wanted to do that movie and I knew that I could I had so many ideas to too flirt it with that I knew I should do it Well, congratulations on minions and monsters. It's a hoot. I need to go and see it again. Pier, thank you so much for your time. M see you. Thankk you for having me. Thank. Iirrepressible Pierre Cofin. Very entertaining could have spok to him for a lot long get lots to say when I When I asked a question about that because there's this orange sort of blubbery thing that I don't think I don't think it iss a film you can spoil. U wanders through squashing everything, taking everything over and I said I wondered if he had another agenda or what he was trying to say. He genuinely appeared baffled at that point But listening back to it, Guinely b was the answer that he had to give. That a movie in which the baddest thing on the planet is a gelatinous orange blob Eating the world By the way, theba Platini references football. Yeah. I didn't get that. What I did get, which which made me laugh out loud was when he went in the scene it's not working And it it's he In his own conversation, he goes What's interesting is that even though they speak in Minianese. Yeah, it's still very French You know, they it Maybe it's because we know that Pierkof Fat is French and he's a French animator et etceter If this was Pixar, they would have done this. their minions would be different Yes. I mean, I Honestly, I think one of the things that you got from that conversation is just how complicated this is. I love the idea that the original scripts were written in Minionese and meant nobody else could understand them. So now they write them in English so that other people can understand them But I think it's so easy to I mean, I should say, I've seen The New Minions movie will review it next week. I'm not meant to review it now But um It's so easy to underestimate how hard it is to do slapstick comedy and how hard it is to do absurdist verbal comedy The level of talent involved in it is astonishing. And also, when he said, this is not the kind of film you could watch while you're cooking, well, firstly, why would you look away? Because whatever anyone thinks of the movie and I said, we'll review it next week and I'm trying hard not to give away what I think about it, although I think I'm not doing a very good job of keeping it under wraps.ving It is probably the most cini literate film you'll see this year. Yes Yes, yes, yes, yes. That's why I said toim, I would need to go and see it again because while whilst you're admiring the Chaplain and the Buster Keaton, you've missed a couple of other things. Yeah. So yeah. ye, it's just there is a gag every three seconds. And I saw it in Dave Norris's screening room and I was on my own And I laughed like an idiot the whole way through So to be reviewed next week, this is the new minions film mininions and Monsters, a film that obviously, Pier Kofan didn't want to make, but was very easily persuaded by the sound of it Correspondence of Cma. com so you can't review that this week. What can you review? A private life, V Privet, which is a satirical French mystery, romance, thriller, psychod drrama, hybrid directed and co written by Rebecca Zatovski starring a Lumier award nominated and French speaking Jodie Foster. brilliant in more than one language how annoying alongside Daniel Toy, Macha Amaric, V Vanan Lokost. So she plays Dr. Lillensteiner, who is A Jewish American psychiatrist working from her home in Paris. She's very insular. She's estranged from her husband, from her son, from her grandchild who she refuses to even In the opening moments, there's a great scene in which a patient comes in and he says, I'm ending my sessions with you. So I came to see you years and years ago because I wanted to give up smoking. I didn't end up doing that. We ended up doing years and years of psychoanalysis. Well, the other day I went to a hypnotist, spent twenty minutes with them. They stopped me smoking. So I'm not going to do any more of this and I think I'm going to sue you for the years that I've wasted coming here to be pychoalyed. So that's the first thing that happens The the second thing that happens is she's sideswiped by news of the death. patient with whom she seemed to have a very good relationship, Valerie. Valerie's husband Simon blames her for Lilian's death because it appears who have been death by suicide Meanwhile, Valerie's daughter says that the pills that were used for the parents suicide where the pills are prescribed By Lilian and that a cryptic message was left on the prescription. Now if Lillian feels any guilt about this, did she miss something? you know she was She was psychoanalyzing, but did she miss this She doesn't appear to show it. However, she develops this weird condition whereby her eyes keep weeping. so it seems that she's constantly crying and she's fed up with this So she visits the hypnotherapist who cured the smoking very skeptically and says, lookook, I don't believe in any of this, but I really need to stop this happening. And she is then hypnotized and during hypnosis, has this dreamy vision. You're going to hear a clip from the trailer in a moment, which is in French, which is why I'm having to do so much explaining has this dreamy vision of herself playing in an orchestra in Nazi occupied Paris with the patient as her mistress and the husband as the conductor who then pulls a gun. Anyway, here is a, as I said, non English language clip So you can hear from that kind of you know this sort slightly satiricalone of it all, it's you know, it's mystery,'s all strange, but you, it's also it's kind of it's on the edge satire and the edge of comedy but there's other stuff going on. So what happens is essentially, she becomes increasingly convinced that there's a conspiracy that somehow Valerie was was murdered by a maybe a member of the family and she starts to go down this paranoid rabbit hole. She confides in her ex. who can't decide whether she's onto something or whether she's just going crazy. And the film then plays out as this you know, how much of this is real, how much of this is imagined. So it' a strange mix of psychodrama Sriller. satire, but there's also this kind of rom com playfulness, her relationship with her estranged partner, and which is beautifully done. And then this genuinely surreal paranoia I've read a couple of things because f the film play in canan last year out of competition. And a couple of people call it hitchcockking. basically when people say hitchcockking now, it doesn't mean hitchcockking. It's just kind of a shorthand for anything in which there are a couple of warring tension elements. I don't think it's hitchcockking. I think it's That emphasizes the mystery element of it. I think it is much more a kind of absurdist character study, like a kind of a gently satirical portrait of bourgeois navel gazing that pokes fun at psychoanalysis and pokes fun at sort of know middle class values, but at the same time uses the psychoanalysis as the engine of the plot. And I think in other hands, it could have been awful as he tease It's very entertaining. I mean Jodody Foster Does Jodody Foster do bad things ever Can you remember the last time she was actually bad in a film? No, and she's not there's not a lot of Jodie Foster around these days, but no No, I can't remember her being a turkey. She's great And the relationship between her and the character played by Daniel O Toy is just is so nicely done and so nicely done that you find yourself going along with the preposterous plot twists because you like Be in the company, these people, even though one of them is quite annoying And that sort of sees it through me. The whole thing is predicated on the idea that all of this might be nothing. It might just be the projection of some, know, what's the phrase, physician, heal myself. So here is somebody who is telling people how to sort out their problems and all the rest of it, but clearly has absolutely no handle on their own issues But there is also, as I said, this thing about this estranged couple who still clearly love each other. There's one scene in which They meet up and they get kind of flirtily drunk together. and then the son sees them kissing and he's outraged. He says, your breakup ruined my childhood And now and now you're doing this what you up to. So I mean, it's very slickly directed and that slickness adds a kind of you know glossy pleasure to it. So it's very, very easy on the eye. And as I said, it really shouldn't work. It really should just fall flat on its face, partarticularly when one bears in mind and this will come up again in take two comedy and satire are often very sort of nation specific And you know, we've all heard, you know French comedies that aren't funny and German comedies that aren't funny because you're not French or you're not German. Well I said, this isn't a comedy. It is technically a mystery suspense psychedrama thriller with a satirical edge to it. I really enjoyed it. and I think I really enjoyed it because it's played so well and I applaud it to Jodody Foster. I just I you just sit there and go, oh Okay Allright, she's really good, isn't she? When I said I I can't remember her being a turkey. I suspect if she was playing a turkey, she'd be very good at. She'd be very good as a turkey. I she hadn' been a turkey Anyway, so I'm quite fond of bourgeois and naval gazing. so this sounds quite Precise And honestly, as somebody who is, you know, both bourgeois and naval gazing and spend a long time in psychoanalysis, it's a thumbs up from me. ye. Okay, so that is called a private life. Before we get to Mark's review, Jackass best and last, a quick reminder that in takeake two you can join Five question film Club ree questions, Your Majesty And vote on which films you'd like Mark and I to do an introduction to headad to Patreon to sign up to get that ad free. Films we've already covered include the piano, with Nail and I, the Gonies, trains spotting and the thing So that's all happening over on Patreon. Now before we get to the laugher lift, yes I feel as though this is not suitable for miners. Okay as in my ns Okay. so I think the Rdactor is taking us into difficult territory. Okay. Okay So I'm just saying that if anybody, you know, if they're listing in the car with with youngsters and maybe I mean, it may well be able see you fine and maybe I'm just being overly sensitive, but right hereere we go into the laugher lift You also probably know the joke anyway, because Iess I' told numerous times But hey, Mark, you know, u Last week, Grandpa Mayo's World War two joke was very popular. So I thought people would appreciate another one of his stories. Excellent. For the purposes of this joke, Grandpa Mayo was a spitfire pilot and was invited to speak in a church hall about his war experiences going During the Battle of Britany in nineteen forty was really tough, he said. The Luftwaffe were very strong. One day, out of the clouds, these foockers appeared few gasps from the audience and several of the children began to gom. I looked up and I realized that two of the fockers were directly above me. I aimed at the first one and shot him down. By then though, the other focker was right on my tail At this point, several of the elderly ladies of the church were blushing with embarrassment. The girls were giggling and the boys laughing loudly The vicar finally stood up and said I think I should point out that Wing Commander Mayo is referring to the Fker Wolf FW one hundred ninety which was the name of the German fighter plane Yes, that's true, says Wind Commander Mayer, but these foggers were flying Mesure Smiths joke That is actually a good joke and I didn't see it coming I heard that as a Douglas Barder joke. And it may well be a true story, but I don't know. so anyway, you didn't see that coming. Okay, well? I did see that like the Meshure Smit's overhead, I didn't see that coming. What is still to come, Mark, Jackass best and last And we have we have a rogue Wts on as well on the way. Okay Okay, so Jack As in just a second, email from James Herren, who, as you'll know Mark is the director and programmer of the Toronto Japanese Film Festival Oh, excellent. okay Are we being excited U I haven't noticed that pit. All expenses paid Hotel business clos is probably air conditioning up there The air conditioning here is fabulous. How is it in your room Well, the fan is working over time again But it is is just You know, it's recycling the fettid, stinking moisture ridden air But it's making me slightly happier. So it's cool as a mountain breeze in this hotel room in Croatia. Dear Eg he says Dar Ega No Ishitashi I would just like to speak to your question about Japanese football supporters Cleaning up the stand., which you mentioned last week and whether that applied to cinema audiences as well, because there's been many famous occurrenies where the Japanese supporters stay after the match and clear up the the stadium. I've been traveling back and forth to Japan for at least a couple of decades on cinema related business, says James and I see many films while I'm there. I don't recall seeing Japanese audience members cleaning up after one another simply because they do such a great job of cleaning up after themselves. People take their garbage outside of the cinema and dispose of it in the correct receptacles, all very civilized and code compliant. Another interesting point is that Japanese audiences out of respect for the filmmakers tend to stay in their seats until the absolute end of the credits O occasionally struggle with films at our own festival here in Canada, because Western audiences, at least a large portion of them tend to try and slip out while the credits are running We often have to explain this to visiting Japanese filmmakers so they understand there is no disrespect intended, simply a different cinema culture custom down with all the bad things and up with all the good things. Well, which is which is good. but I have to say Marvel films and things like that, they really do stretch that you know, if you are one of the persons that tends to hang around, I mean, I know they put like a little sketch at the end, but really when the credits will be going for ten minutes, I know. But that really state for that? Well, yes, more people probably than you would imagine. But I just I love the idea of of just a cultural norm being of course you clean up after yourself because it would be disrespectful not to. An email from Oliver Morton, plananetary Affairs editor of the Economist Wow, Dar straight up and with a twist, genuinely amazed that two men of such distinction, experience and taste have not ever tried a neggroni equal parts Campari, Italian vermouth and gin To say nothing of its many delightful siblings, the Bouvardier swapping out the gin for Bourbon The neggroni Salato gin replaced with carva pre eminent amongst them ari is integral to all of them. Martini Rosso a perfectly acceptable supporting act, though other Italian vermouths are available and to some preferable Not sure you would get one at the ship, Mark, excellent as it is, but the O Coast Guard should be happy to help you Not sure there's any anywhere in showhbys North London, which wouldn' be available would be able to rusle one up for Simon. You really should try one or more. So Listen, well, very nice to have thank you, Oliver, from the economist which we've mentioned a lot and never ever get any advertising for. But yes, if you want to send us a read, I'll do you a read. So maybe one of us needs to try A neggroni. Bouvardier or the neggroni spaliato Do you want o Okay, do you want to divide it up? Sh we do shouldould we do one each I want to be honest, I don't think I can't imagine that I'm going to be anywhere that will sell one of these. But if I am I think I might go for the Nggroni U Spaliato I would imagine is replaced with carbon All right, well why don't you do that? and I will attempt here in Croatia Yeah. to just doing an aggroni O or when I'm back I'll go the Coastuard and then I'll do it Okay Oliver seems to know an awful lot about your places where you drink. But anyway, that's because it's a small place and there, you know, that there's limited choice Oliver, thank you very much. Correspondence to Kodomo. com jackass best and last. It's finished. That's a good thing. Car. Okay. So this is the final installment in Inverted Coms in the Jackass movie series, a farewell love letter to the series with a combination of old and new adventures, directed by Jeff Tremaine co produced by Spike Jones, who also I believe directed the opening and closing sequences and the opening and closing sequences are weirdly spectacular and cinematic. The opening sequence, which has got these moving tableau, which is done in a way which is very kind of Michelle Gondry, Charlie Kaufman, Spike Jonesy. and then in the finale, which is basically like the end of apocalypse now with absolutely sort of massive explosions The rest of the film in between those two very, very cinematic things is much more, how should we say, rough and ready. Lots of stuff filmed in, you know, back alleys and hotel rooms Staircases. So original stars Johny Koxille, Steve O, Chris Pontius, We Man, Preston Lacy, Dave England, Danger Erin back along with comparative newbies Poopies, I know you know all these names, Simon Poopies Zacholes, Jasper Dolphin, Rachel Wolfson, and also cameos by the likes of your friend and mine, Paul Walter Hauser. Here's a little snippet of the trailer. Hello I'mohnynoxvill. Hello I'm Jhny Knxvill. Welcome to Jack. Welcome to the first day of our last film. Whatn' you feeling I'm sad. Does this make you sad, Chris? No, I'm not in touch with my emotions I would like to introduce you to our new cast member, Larry Dy to meet you all. Big fans. Oh my gosh, got you! Give me broken water so I can throw it on Larry twenty five years and we havent learned a goddamn thing. Did someone go get the shot collar for your penis? Whoopy said he wants to try it So just in case it wasn't clear, Larry is a sort of AI robot. and then I think from the rest of it, you don't need to see what was going on. you get the general idea. So As I said, combination of old bits and new bits. So I've seen the previous films and I've reviewed them, you can go back and find that. So some of the old bits in this include The Pooh cocktail Supreme sequence, which I think was in JackS three with with the flying Poralloo Um The famous thing of Johnny Knoxfillld getting hit by the ball twice from which event he was literally ambulanced away with fairly serious injuries. And which I hadn't seen before, the Brad Pitt abduction thing, which is from the TV series in which Brad Pitt appears to be abducted off the streets while queuing up to buy some food The new stunts include a prostate exam carried out by that robot Larry on one of the cast members. someomeone having, as you heard in that clip, an electronic device attached to Mr. Happy and then being asked to walk across a balance beam whilst getting electric shocks. in their sensitive parts. and an escape room from hell and a whole bunch of other stuff. Now. Where you stand on Jackass is where you stand on Jackass. Son Paul, who's the producer of the show, big fan, in the past, I found some of it quite challenging In terms of this, Some of it is actually very funny in an old school slapstick way. I mean, it is just funny. There's, you know, the footage which is fairly well known now of Johnny Knoxville being put into a cardboard box and thrown down a flight of stairs Dangerous, obviously, but quite funny. Some of it is revolting. I mean, I just have to look away with the diarrhea stuff because there's the game of Twister with them wearing cellophane trousers after having taken laxatives, I just I literally didn't watch the screen because I don't want to, because I don't, you know, because it provoked These things provoke vomit on and off screen and I'm just not interested in it And some of it, as you heard from that thing, is sort of weirdly sentimental. The fact that this is the end. I mean they make a point of the fact that they have said that every single one they've done was the last one, but they then gone to done another one. But this did feel like this actually probably was the end of it And One of the things I thought when watching it is this Do you remember when Project Hell Mary came out and I did the Ryan Gosling interview And the question was, whether it's actually a film about friendship, you know, whether it's what Project Hllmary was about. Does it raise the question of, you know C can men be friends And in the case of Project Hell Mary, the answer was yes, men can be friends, but only if the entire fate of the planet is at stake. Yp And in this case, the question seems to be Can men be friends? And the answer is yes only if they can play ping pong with each other's privates and insert toy cars in places where they shouldn't be inserted and generally smack each other around the head, face body parts and Other Unspeakables So yes, but only under those circumstances. I mean, We should point out that in this one, apparently because the injuries have been sort of accrued over the years. but According to the Wiki page The main injury that was accrued on this film was that somebody ripped a tendon in their finger whilst attempting to dig a coin out of a place I can't repeat on the radio. Would that be a sphincter? Okay, yes, it would be I speak as someone who has one of the best. one of the best, Yes The thing is that he doesn't know that it's a sphincter when he puts his finger into it Oh, okay. that would I think we know everything that we need to know. We know everything that we need to know. Okay. So I mean the thing is I'm not completely down on it by any means at all because on the. I mean, one thing that is worth saying is In a world in which cinema constantly fetishizes in inverted commas' perfect women's bodies, I struggle to think of another mainstream film that has more male nudity and also more diverse body shapes and sizes without any apparent judgment I mean, it is weirdly There is something weirdly refreshing about seeing this much and this many male bodies in this way in a way that's just completely unabashed And it actually does run contrary to what an awful lot of mainstream cinema is about. That is what it is that's what it's interested in because as I said, it's can men be friends? Yes, but they need to be able to toy cars with the sun don't shine. The other thing that's funny is that I do think that there is a thing about friendship. In recently, I was doing a program about male friendship in cinema. And I was thinking about the Jackass movies, and particularly in the case of this There is this genuine sense that whatever you think, there is this camaraderie that's been built up over the years of smacking each other in the unmmentionables Um The film starts and ends with a warning, which is only part of the oning of do not try these stunts at home, okay? Do not try these stunts at home. They've been carried out by professionals and they're dangerous The BBFC site of course, is brilliant, as always cites violence, people are punched, struck with objects and thrown to the ground, occasional bloody injuries in the aftermath of stunts and animal attacks, including bites and cuts. There is frequent comic genital and buttock nudity, there is crude humor throughout, including the sight of people defecating, vomiting, and being covered in feces And then dangerous behavior, theseese are highly dangerous stunts that may cause serious injury if imitated. They include the use of guns, fireworks, cars, razors, electricity, and animals. People cause themselves harm by inserting objects into their bodies and exposing themselves to dangerous materials. Also hilarious, at the end of the film, there are two of the usual disclaimers. One of them is that No animals were harmed during the course of the making of the film, which is more than can be said of the human beings on display. And the other one is that there's the thing at the end that says the film may not be used to train artificial intelligence. Yeah, whichich is happening all the time now. I know, But it's particularly funny in the context of a film in which there is no intelligence, artificial or otherwise. In fact, it is, of course, proudly and profoundly stupid I think of all of the Jackass ones, this is the one that I enjoyed the most. I still have grave reserv. I mean, I just the diarrhea and vomiting stuff, I just I can't be doing with. I just can't be doing with because I can't be doing with it in the middle of all this Ccktail of Poo. and just everythingvery There is this weird thing about Can men be friends? Well, yes. But only if you allow one of them to be lowered onto the face of the other one with a winch I mean, it does sound as much fun as a prostate exam And in a very literal sense, Simon That's what it is. Th These are the people who I have avoided my entire life. I know. Th Oh go. Yeah. you know. I interviewed Johnny Knoville live on five liive. Oh Is and After that, I thought I am never going to see any of your films.. Why? What was he like? He was such an ass. he just It just It was like he thought he was still in a film one of his films rather than being on live radio.. And after that, I just thought he was so appalling that I just didn't want have anything. So ye, I am not going to begin No no this. Well I don't imagine that you would and as I said, if you've heard my reviews of the previous ones, I mean, I have struggled my way through some of the previous films. But as I said, in the interest of objectivity and' being completely honest about it. Of all of them, this is the one that I've enjoyed if that's the right word, the most. There are some things that I just am not I can't, I just can't be doing with. But there is underneath it all just this weird thing about Blokes And I yeah anyway, there we. I mean blokes can be friends by going to the football or by going out for a drink, or by going for a walk or by doing open swimming. you know. it's not a mystery. You don't have to go into space and you don't have to be lowered onto your friends face on a winch All of which is preposterous nonsense. You can just be mates going to the pub Yes But that's not a film That's not a film. You know, if you and I made a film about this like this, it would just be a series of shots of us going, all right All right C point, you want a point of Thank you Fisher Anyway, enough of that. Correspondence at Keran. comot Hey we go. What's on here. Katie is here to tell us about a screening of quote, People's emergency briefing, a new film aimed at enhancing public awareness of climate and environmental risks or if you don't believe a Just look outside. Anyway, People's emergency briefing here's Katie. Hello Simon and Mark. This is Katie from AG Impact in Audleoo Park This wanted to share the details of our upcoming screening on the second of July between two PM and four PM. We're really excited to be one of a small number of businesses who will be screening the film in the workplace Aldley Park is a leading innovation and business campus in Cheshire. It's home to a wide range of organisations across science, technology and sustainability. So it's a great setting to bring people together around Fil love for you to join us. Thanks Katie. I've heard a lot about people's emergency briefing. My issue with these I haven't seen it. and I'm sure it's you know it's very well made and it's doing a very important job and Clearly, there is a climate emergency and drastic action is needed etcer whher It's like, do you remember unfortunate truth, the Al Gore film Yes from from and obviously, Al Gol was right But yes in my experience, everyone who went to see it agreed with him anyway Yes. So I guess the challenge for filmmakers is how do you get The jackass crowd to watch a people's emergency briefing kind of film. Yeah and suggestions on a postcard to C out in my The people who are inclined to think it's all nonsense, how do you get them to see a film which might make them go, Oh, Yes as well as it being forty three degrees in Paris You know that anyway. unless you're in a Croatian hotel room. where the air condly is perfect at twenty degrees loveovely. That's it for this week. There's been a Sonyusic Enertainment production. This week's team, Jen Eric and Josh, prodroucer was Dom. The reactor was Simon Paul In Take two, we're directing you to the Overflow car park for more chat about current film releases More on Toy Story five and Disclosure Day, will have more of your missives, including a surprising piece of film trivia about the Babaduck's unexpected afterlife And a very surreal idea for blending entirely different films al together There is also the latest round of one frame backack featuring some of the most wince inducing on screen injuries inspired by Jackouse a fiveive question film cllub ree questions m As Mark ignores or accepts a Democratic vote to introduce us to one of These great films available for free and on subscription streaming platforms, The Lavender Hill moob, Children of Men, Gregory is girl. pllus questions Schmestens, in which this week We're asked why it's seemingly still okay to kill a cat on a movie But all dogs are sacred interesting I hand spot. I mean, obiously dogs are better than cats but art from that. So come and join us on Patreon for the exclusive goodood stuff, Mark, what is your film of the Wek? Well, I know it's a small release and I don't expect it to be topping the charts, but I'm going for a private life. Okay, very good. Supergirl review next week, of course, because as I said, it was only screened on Tuesday night and we reserve any judgment as to Wh that might be? and minions And minions, well, that's the beer, that's the biggie of next week. Correspondent to the Bank nexts week by the way, Olivia Wald and Ed Norton are on the show I think I'll bestow a year's ultra membership to our correspondent of the week. It's tricky. I was tempted to give it to Oliver Morton, the economist, but you know, I don't think he needs it. So I think I did particularly enjoy the email from Gareth who is the guy No, soor Jim in Southampton it's going to be took his entire family ten in total to see Toy Story five I did think that was a unique view to take seventy one year olds, thirty nine year olds and three year olds to a movie. So yeah so it'll be him And also thank you for that email because it reassured me that my judgment is not completely shot. Thank you very much, Dean for listening. Take two has landed alongside this one
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