Final Thoughts and Closing Remarks

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Greg, let's talk about it. The addventures of Elliot, the what? Thank you, The millennium Tailes. Greg, of course, you and the crew have a review up now. You can go watch that. You can listen to it on all your favorite podcast services, a recent Games cast episode. Yep. How did it review U I'm the one who well no Andy had beaten the two. I gave it a six five. okay. Okay. It's an okay I really enjoy. Andy there did give it a sc and I do believe. Okay. And then yeah, Roger hadn't played enough to put a real score on it, but we were on the same boat of like not didn't reach the heights we wanted out of it, but it's still an enjoyable pig. Okay What I struggle with and as we'll play you and go is how dumb his hat is, but also just Who would I recommend this game to? Oh, you know what I mean? In terms of like I have put twenty eight hours into the game. I've seen two of the clous. I have not gone for the true endnding. And I've enjoyed my time, but as I talk about in the review, Mike, I put it down to go play another game and did not think of it once. Yeah. And it was like at this kids like, Oh, Elliot tomorrow shit right. I gotta talk about that. You know what I mean? Okay I kind of totally forgot about that. and so we did that and here we are and it's like it's a game I enjoy. It is Zelda again, if you wouldn't tell by my heart heart container. Okay. ye It is just us doing the goddamn thing, rightight? and you pop in here and you got matched up with a second. But you get into your inventory, right? And it's like, cool. Yeahah, you got a bone arrow You got you got Oh you got a hammer, you got bombs. Yep. You got a little grappling hook it looks like. Yeah a mere shield. You know what mean? Fantastic Yeah right like you're you're playing Zelda. and I think that's great. You lookook at this gigantic map, there's tons of shit to do. This map, of course, is done four different times, Mike because you have four different eras in the millennia. Wow. everyone do as you time travel around You can see twenty eight hours in. All of that in the age of budding I ha't explored. Like I have it gone. So it's like I could easily see and so many people have talked about this, this being your podcast game. Okay? I'm going because the story Nonsense and non existent The voice acting for the fairy in particular, Fey, who you will you will hear, we are thankfully muted. You will hear Fe talk occasionally. and I will let you know, I've turned down Fey's ability to talk. Oh I like don't talk as much. she still talks way too much. Okay she's annoying as hell. This could easily be though, as I said on the review your game that you just want to explore because exploring the map is fun. you know, we'll come over here, We'll set off on some adventures and. Now what does the age of budding mean? This is the start of civilization? This is what do we see through these ages? Not enough of a difference. Oh.. This falls a little bit into you know what we were talking about me and Roger with Dragon Quest reimagined the beginning of the year. But like you have this cool concept and you just don't do enough with it. Yeah. whereere it's like so this is your main section, right? So like here, let's right now we're in modern times, right. Okay whereere Ellie's from. Yeah. We got the you know, the king Castle here you go. ye, yeah. Castle. you got like. You are joining my same twenty hours in every. This is late game. Now really quick, before we dive a little bit deeper Just what is the over the top? What is Elliot in the Millenium? I'm glad you ask. what is that? Yeah Of course, go check out the review if you want to go in depth with Greg, Andy and Roger in the team from the Games cast. We're going to, of course, do a Games cast plays going in depth with it while the game is playing. but what is the over the top? What is this game? So Ellot is an adventurer everybody. Okay. And if you didn't understand that, Elliot will tell you several times throughout this fucking game, then he's an adventurer, okay. And then you'll bump into people And they'll tell you that Elliot's an adventurer. Okay. Elliot is an adventurer. He is an orphan who was raised on these streets and he just does adventures for people. He's link. Okay, and Link shouldn't talk, but we'll get to that later. And so you go off on your quest here to help the kingdom. One of the king's men goes roue of course. We have to stop him. He jumps through time. so we have to jump through time to chase him and stop him. And then the story builds on itself. and of course it evolves into we have to save the princess. Okay. And so then this millennia spanning tale let's jump it through. So like you've just seen over here This is what the main area looks like in modern times. Yes. So you go all the way back to the age of budding And you'll be able to go, oh, okay, hold on. so fast drivel right there. I've unlocked. I've gone through the time door. We can go through the four different time doors here. Okay. Jump through whatever you want to, which is both nice and I could use a little more popp and circcusance first. Okay. But lookook at this. So it's very similar, right? You can kind of see the bones of what will become in the future. Hey, kind of cool, okay. But again, You know, when you werere going to put time travel in your game Yeah in your narrative, Because of course, this from the folks who did Octopath traravel. that series I adore, one, two and zero, all three of those games I love I was expecting way more from the story and Honestly, the bad guy's gone back in time. You go, o shit. We're gonna go back in time and stop him or maybe we won't. We'll come back to the present. It'll be butterfly effect. No none of that. Oh no. Just this is these Really? This is these are things. like, Oh, that's not You could have done more fun stuff. Okay, okay Damn Well, the art style pops that is of course what that team is known for right there. Judy. HD two D, beautiful graphics. So this is an action Aventure RPG. This isn't Yeah, they're calling it the action RPG right? Okay an ARPG Diablo S. Eact. Of course, yeah. But it is very much, yeah. this is rather than turn based battles for your RPG You are coming through and having the real time combat, which again, the game is good at. I don't want to take away, here's the secondary time. This is the age of magic. Oh. There's a There's a whole thre Look at this. Yeah peopleople used to use magic now nobody does or only very few can dot that at the. Okay, okay. So you have you know, you go through and see that through the years. You meet characters who you'll see through the years which I appreciate is to things that have happened or whatever. But yeah, again, it looks like octopath because it's HD two D It doesn't play like octopath, right? So as you run off here and you see guys right boom, you're right into it. You're just straight up swinging that song G them slash we go. Yeah is elda. you are cutting on the grass to get their currency. that isn't a rupeie. Okay. So it looks exactly like a rupeing, right? Yeah. And so as you called out, like you have all your different weapons. and so you know, on X you got one on Y, you got the other. So right now I'm using my My glade, Dark sector, what up? But we won't call that the boomerang. It is the boomerang. Yeah It's a very basic boomerang. You can see mine's now electrified. Okay.ool. A big that's one of the things the game does, I think very well is adds in the stuff magicite, right So the idea here is that you get to go through as you earn this magic site stuff, you upgrade your box. so you see I have forty three or forty five, right? Yes. That of course means that I have forty five points to work with on this build. Okay, okay. So I can go through here and you see the time obviously I don't have four points anymore there, But it would be that I can go through and say, okay, I do want my attack up my crit up build up what you want. Yeah you get and you get so many. Wow. that is a lot on that. Okay. you have it on every weapon So you really do want to switch around between the sword, the spear, the hammer, the chain and sickle. Were you messing around with the different weapons? Did you find yourself just gravitating to the sword? ye Yeah, I stuck sword the entire way. I've never a big spear guy. I don't like how slow a hammer is. I didn't use chain and sickle for area of effect throughout the thing. I likeed that a lot. Cool I was sword and arrow prettyty much the entire time until I got the boomerang that became a glaive on top of you know what you're doing in terms of the magisite, you come into your weapons and then your weapons you see have star ratings as well. Okay. And so you know like my silver I probably had when I got the glave, I think I was actually working off of a one star boomering. Yeah. And so then to unlock this death spot I like, oh hell ye, you know what I mean? And like you run through, you build it up that way, you go that way And are those items you're finding in the world? or is that you're building off that item with those skill points that you're investing? No, you're finding those in the world. Oh top of Elliot having such an expansive map, there's so much to do, right? So it is the idea that Yeah, okay. so here you see I have this treasure chest, right? treasure chests get mark on the areas, you clear them out, so you know how many treasure chests you have to. Yeah pretty well here. So you jump up there, I see way more treasure chests over here. Okay. You have these where like you know, the doors over here for the ruins so like your dungeons to go down. Yeah. These doors, the secret shortcuts always lead to a network of tunnels that have people to fight inside of them and then kick you out the other side.. But yeah, where I want to here's one two, you have your temples, your shrines. So I go there and I do whatever it is and I'll get a piece of heart or o, you know, you have blood or whatever calleder pieces of heart so that if you get four, you expand health you have, Okay Wow. Shadow Trickster says, What is the cat icon? This game is littered with cats Okay. Yeah. Let's go I'll go get this cat for you. Let's stop with these cats. Run up and you talk to the cats. N were joking around about this on the stream, of course, or the review that all the cats are there and they have human voices doing the meowos. Oh yeah ye yeah M me I heard that guy meows for you, a gal doing meows for you. You're like, okay, cool. A lot of opening the map, making sure you going the right way. Wow Battle throughw. and again You know, I said it wasn't Diabamo because it' not right but it is too in a way of what that ARPG is. if like just go through, smash them up, smack them up.mack it up. Cats going to be out from me here. I'm gonna add in my team. Bam. Andz a guy back at town Square who's taking care the pats I get, the more things he gives you. Hell ye. Yeah. Okay, so they're collectibles. They're just fun collectibles out there What about yeah, what is the b other boss fights? What is that littleiter really well done here Mike? Really well done. That's honestly I think I enjoy the combat, but it's very basic. you know, as you might have seen there and what you'll see as I continue to play throughout this stream with you But The boss fights are where they get fun with it. Here's a big guy in this different thing. All right, cool, how is that going to affect this? What's it going to go on? Okay. How do you beat that person? I likek the boss fights a lot here. they were inventive. I wish there was more of that on the world map rather than just smash smash smash and I move on and get out of there. let me just pause for a second. impress Your boy Mike has been playing a lot of Zelda games. Yeah. Everything that you are describing and showing me right now, I am very interested in. Okay,. This is crazy right now that I'm like, oh wow I've been playing a lot of Zelda. It seems it sounds very much like Zelda. I like this It is Zelda. This is you play if you've been this is one of the reasons why I was a little crest fallen with it. Okay again, I like the story of Octopath so much and the characters I come to love as the turents. I didn't get enough of that here However, I don't want to throw the baby out in the bath water, like this is fun. Like I never I never turned on Octopath I'm sorry Ellot going,, I gotta play Elliot. Okay. Like I was happy to turn it on and do it. You know, I went to the vet one night of in the middle of the night with Cole, sat there for like three hours in the emergency room playing it. Like it was a nice, you know, time waster, if you will, or whatever, Easter a way to move on throughout time with it and do stuff. So it's enjoyable. It just doesn't hit the highs of I love this kind of zeence. You know, Breath of the wild, here's the kingdom. Fantastic game. Okay. amazing game. Yeah. I like this kind of game. I want to be this kind of adventurer. I like the way you know Occarina tells st. Yeah, yea tells a story. And so to get this here, it was like, okay, cool, and especially for it to be, hey, I love Octopath so much. I wanted this to be that for action RPG. And I don't think it hit the highs of it. But as I said on the review, right, I'm going be incredibly excited when they say they're doing another one. When they say, all right, cool we're're going we're going to do another adventures as of Elliot. likeike, okay, c cool. What have you learned from this? Okay. how are we going amp up that story? What are we going to do there? How are we going to make moment to moment combat be as interesting as those boss fights? Oh snap. Okay. So those are some of the things you'd be bringing into the boardroom of like, yeah, hey on this sequel. I want it to work on This is one of those reasons I like Where Square is at. Okay compomany. We talk all the time about Xbox right now. Hey, you swung, you missed, you fired, you your clothes. Yeah. I think obviously this is they're going to make another octopath. They're going to make another one of this too, I would assume. and it's going to be let's take all those learning. You have a very strong foundation. Oh, againgain, a six point five is okay on the kind of funny scale. Yeah. still Yeahah, I wouldn't recommend this I don't think if you were like if somebody up on the street was like, do I have to play Elliot? No, you don't to play Elliot. If you looked at like what you're talking about and said, I want to play that, by all means, hell, yeah, like you're gonna find if this is what you're seeing and you're enjoying like If people are like I like think I do with that smash wom. I put that bomb out, what's up B? If P people are like, I like I really enjoy Zelda, Greg, and I love this art style that I'm seeing from the octopath team Would that be like a yeah, you should play this? Yeah we still have reservations. I would I mean, reservations, I think there's, you know one of the things I talked about and I truly mean is like This game might even be More short on its comings, right? Okay. Because it's up against Mina. Mina the Holloower just dropped in while I'm not a souls person. I see all the zelda stuff in there. So even the magistite that I'm talking about, you augmenting your abilities. Yeah, Mina does that. Okay I think does it better, right? Oh What is fuck, why is it slipping? Me and Adie are obsessed with the other one that just came out Um Alabaster Dawn. Alabaster Dawn is early acccess, which for me is a backbreaker. I want a final version of that game, But like that does this better and characered story. That has this kind of gameplay But it has the story of. Oh wow. Okay. I think it again has the better gameplay of it. So I would tell you, even though that's early access and I think the guy talking about be like five years before it's finished. Well I would say if you had if you could only buy one Go buy out. Okay, okay. If you could going to only buy this or Mina, buy Ma. And like is that fair to this? You know, we don't review in a vacuum in terms of like, This game is okay. Again, I don't think it's bad by interest imagination. I think there's fun to be had here, but when you're like, oh, it's a podcast game. it's like, well, I can rattle off a dozen games thatn podcast. You know what I mean? Like We live in this blessed age right now of amazing video games all across the way where Yeah, That's what I would rather go do Let's talk about this little fairy in the corner that you brought up earlier. I just saw her talk. Now it's just my noavi, my tattle and my tail. It's your no. Okay. And she is the most like, who, how did she do that, Ellia? Shut up, stop talking. Okay So just don't like too much talking coming from that. When when I turned her down, it's still her voice. Okay. It's like gring. Oh mean. And it's funny. I saw Jason Treryer wrote about this today in his newsletter and he was talking about how the developers had after the demos, added in the ability to turn her down basically. Wow, interestnteresting, but' still she's still too p. Okay Okay. Yeah. gives What an now're going I've takingen you into one of the little let's go get this thing. Again, All right, we're gonna do the Zelda dungeons or you know, the shhrants. Okay. We're gonna go in there. Yeah. Some of them are so brain dead easy that you're like, all right, why. Okay, this is gonna to be a fight, which is nice now, granted. Okay. These aren't you're gonna look at this. these bosses aren' impressive. Thesen't the bosses as much as they are big guys. Just do what And you can see I'm old. Okay, okay. ' obviously. It was funny when at some point when Roger turned around and looked at my desk, he was like, Oh my God, you're killing every I'm playing a lot, Roger. You've only played six hours. you know you get you get these weapons, you get these abilities, you get these sws and stuff like you just go through. And so Meabbuster says Greg doesn't like Whimsy. What are you fucking talking about? No stupid ass goddamn fairy talking about I would die for Navi. I would die for Navy. Don't worry don't say I don't like whimsy Takeer Bell in hook. Julie Roberts, I would die for it. This one sucks. This one I would stomp on. G., You know what I mean? You said you've played multiple endings. Yes. Can you tell me a little bit about that? Yeah, there's a good ending so far, a bad ending so far, and then I know there is a true ending out there. Oh, okay I don't think I think it's one of those I could do the true ending but ye in like the little they gave us a reviewer's guun. And they were like, I' not gonna spoil becauseuse I don't know where're with everything else. But it was like, there's a very specific thing that's supposed to be somewhere and it's not there. And I'm like, I don't understand about it trigger, right? but I also don't care enough. You know what I mean? againgain, this game isn't about that for me. What I said it before and I've said it in this, the exploration and unlocking all these paths, that's where this game excels. That's what I want You are an adventure, so go on the adventure. And so even here, we were talking over it, right Coming through clearing all this fog of war, I love doing that. Okay over herear this. The game's got really interesting pathhing as well, where it's like up here, right. like you yeah, you have to take like this one to get there, where it looks like you Oh here. but no, this is a wall. We'd be stuck in this wall. So you're goingave the cave entrance So you have you abol actually bust out your map again You marveled at it. We should talk about it. I Of course playing with my steam controller. Crazy. I fucking love my steam controller. as you know I love my ROG ally X, and you know that I love my Razor bllade sixteen. So when they were like, we got codes, I was like, why, I'm just got this sexy new controller. G me that. And so I've been rocking it there and on the back I made sure to put my map on a hot Oh, that's nice. Yeah I could justump in without doing it because you're in your I was in my map left and right all the time. Okay you got to know you're going And again, that's a great experience out of this. I enjoy that. Now, hours on end, back to back to back, it can kind of all blend together. You know what I mean? of like, okay, cool. L sometimes it is kind of annoying that I can't get up there. You saw earlier maybe Elliot I unlock this glide he can do so you can jump from high places. Yeah, that's cool I like that. but it's like, can I just find like that's not that high. Yeah jump you knew the guy d. Okay. And how was your experience on PC Of course, we know that you have been playing a lot of PC, but this one with the Steam controller. Is this your first full game with the Steam Controller? It is. Yeahah, ye yeah, I got the Steam controller super excited. I booted up Xbox and realized you can't play Xbox with it I was like, what Yeah I want to play replace goddamn. So no, this is, yeah, you know, twenty eight hours arm this controller. It did become Destination Like I played a lot on Rog in that emergency room. but as I've said, I am an octophath. I would say fanoy, even though I don't you know know everything and yada yad yada But maybe I just appreciate it a lot. I love this art stoke so much that this was I had to throw this up on the base. only had to be R at Max settings, even though I mean you just getting sharper and sharper. It' just is such a gorgeous art style for me that I was like, okay, I want to do that, which meant I was all over Ste controlling. Okay. I like that. I like what you're putting down. I like hearing everything so far. You see, it's like that thing of like Again Story, not even whatever. Anddie's skipping everything, right? And he Oh no. Is it fully voice acted? Yeah. Yeah zero point five higher w But it is that idea of if you just want to do the old school Greg Miller or this I bet would be a fun platinum. I haven't looked into it. I'm popping on my steam achievements, but it' be a fun pllatinum, I bet. This would be the thing of like cool, I'm going to turn it on and listen to games daily and just go a bunch of just kick at. Where these cats, where are these chests, Wh are the things. It does a really nice job. I didn't talk about this in the review, but like when you into the cave, right? It'll tell you how many treasure chests and cats are.. I mean even now you can see yeah, like this came up here. Oh, there you go even from here. So Iat had a chest in there if I wanted to go chase it, right? Like I like that kind of stuff that isn't hiding the information. for like when I I kept running into cats in the story or the game. and I was like, I'm going to get the ability to talk to you, I'm going to do something whatever And then when I met the cat guy and, collect the cats,'s like, Oh, that's cool. But I forget how many hours I was in. And I'm like, clearly I'm going to go back to old places and try to remember where I saw the cat. Should I be keeping a list? and then you go to the map and it shows you on. That's great. But again, like I approve of everything here. but stick with me. I think that's an enjoyable time. I could see why you would enjoy that I think it speaks to a problem with certain video games, which is dumbing the experience down. I'm not saying the game needs to not tell me where the fucking cats are and make me annoyed, but it really speaks to something we talked a lot about with Hell is U, where they talked about we are player plattering. We arent showing you everything. We want you to find these things This very much becomes a game of I want that chest. I'm going to travel to the fastest point. go there. open the map there. There's the chest. I got the chest. and it's like there's an achieved there's obviously And a dwarfin rush off of checking something off. Yeah. But what did I really do there? You know, it's one of those games where you do this you play for hour you're like, but I didn't really do anything. You know what I mean? Like I ran around like even now, I'm gonna open up Okay, money, that's great. Sometimes you open up though and it's more another magic site for a weapon. I don't of course. You know what I mean? You can go make your own magic site. It's you know, you can put all as you upgrade your abilities you make better Magici. There's all this stuff but it's just like Okay, you saw how I'm just tearing enemies apart now. So it's not like the combat's challenging me and it's like I'm just running over there to get the chest and yada ya, yada. It's back to why I feel like, you know, I as soon as we finished the review, deleted this off of my Rg and off of my razor blade, not because I't like it because I was done, even though I don't have full ending. Whereas you look Octopath Traveler Zero where I still twenty hours or whatever to get the true ending over. And I'm not deleting that. I'm going back to that. I want to know how I love that story with those characters so much Whereas this? it's like, it's another It's the difference, Mike, and I'm not trying to be super insulting. but it's gonna to be insulting. But it's the difference between do you want to go to John of Bleaker Street and get a fucking awesome pizza that you wait in line for and it's delicious and fantastic. and every says the best pizza are. I love that. Or do you want to go to the pizza buffet, which is very different It's it's it's good for what it is. right? It's Tim's argument all the time with like, I go to Pain and Express because I want Pay and Express, not because I want Chinese food Yeah. I want Chinese food. I'm going to go to X Y and Z, loc,. And I feel like that's the thing here where it's like nice. I don't this is junk food. It's a big video game map junk food. and you've all probably watched me for years, you know that I love video game junk food. So I'm not talking shit about it But I've had my fill of it after twenty hours. Yes, exactly. And it's like, okay, I don't feel compelled to go chase anything else at this point. Okay know there's plenty to chase if I wanted to. Well, I like what you're putting down here, Greg. and I think we got some more to dive into. And I'll encourage everyone watching on YouTube and on Twitch to start sending in any sort of questions you may have. hello to the MinMax show. Of course, welcome in we are playing The addventures of Elliots for Gamescast plays. We're going be talking about it more with Greig, who is one of the reviewers, the lead reviewer. I'm here. best with Gamescast The best reviewer kind of funny. rightight after better word Ben Hanson. that spponsors Ben Hanson. We'll see you in a minute. 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Yeah yeah. and I don't, you know, this deep into the game, it'll be interesting to see if that change the game. Yeah. There we go, difficulty ery. Oh, let's try.' for action game expert. That's Andy. No, that's you. That's you right now. No no dodge roll, which I was bummed out about. Okay. You do have a shield, you don't have it right away. You know,s all stuff that unlocks. Yeah. If you notice over there, something we haven't talked about in the kit as the kids say. I got that LT These are my fairy' powers, right? So right now I'm using this speed. Wha, okay that way. But if I wanted to, you hit the bumper right and here's copy where it uses for puzzles where you split them off. You can also useet scenarios that I haven't done it. Ignite, this is where she would be on fire. Again, more of a puzzle thing of igniting There's certain enemies and shields that it works on. Yeah. Sprint's what I'm using now Warp is wherever she is, you can warp too. They have a lot of platforming stuff in here that Okay easier to go. And then youah vacuum to suck up stuff around. This of course, is on left bumper. You could also th go over here if you wanted this where rightight bumper has all your different weapons that you can switch out of the fly to. Yes, okay, okay. Let's see we get. We're on very hard. I don't think I ever did try. Are you lgain usually just how games like this do it, they just like, o he takes more damage I was gonna ask you, I wonder if we can see them with more health on that as right But I guess for you at this point, you're two shotting every enemy. It at least gives you four to six, let's say, hits and making it a fight kind of, I guess Um, Follow up as well. can you reflect Projectiles, I saw when you fought those two big guys, there were pink things coming at you, of course, playing Zelda. I'm reflecting Ganondorf shots now What does that look like The shield is the miror shield. So early on, no, but then eventually you unlock a perry Nice. Isn' that's c. get out the right way, you can ex to fact And some bosses require that, which again, I thought was real nice. Bosses were a high point for this one Okay, I see them putting in a boss rush. How many bosses do you think? a lot of them? Oo. I wouldn't feel comfortable to where early on, I was like, Oh man, are they are they already repeating a boss? 'cause they were. Oh. I think it was like in a dungeon you think. Yeah. And then like the story bosses no, you get you get a bunch. Yeah, of course Let's we'll see some combat here live.. You've played the two these elder games. I haven't played those. What? Really? Yeah I've made those yet. Any haven't gotten yet? What is the differences between those and this that are like strikingly different? story is it just the story of being lost with Link and all that Or is there like, Hey, Mike, like the two D Zelda games are better than this because of that Better is in the right word. Okay. differentere, right? Like I like this kind of I don't love breakable weapons. I'm one of those guys, you know Oh And two these elders that have brereakable weapons? No, they don't know thatreakable. Okay.. So one of the reasons I'm comparing this very much to Breath of Wild tears. Okay, okay. whereere it's like that's what I want out of that. I also love a more direct storytelling that I feel breath and tears didn't necessarily give you. You know the reason I fell off of tears It never rolled to credits after forty some hours, right? Was that I walked in and I'm like, I'm going to do all the shrines and I did so many shrines. But then I was like, what is the narrative? What's pulling through the story anymore? Yeah It's on me. that's not on the game. I know. I talk to Tim all the time about God. P. Okay, you took a lot more stuff th. Oh wow. Okay, hits you really hard there. That old m what I guess. Okay, how fac got someh there go just got destroy them. So they're a little bit harder to hit. Yeahah, but they're doing a lot more damage this time around too. Yeah. So this one I like about this one Yeah when you die in this game, right, you can go back to your last save or whatever and it says auto save, but it could be where you saved before, right? and you can request revival. So you can now start just using your do this. So like if you're somebody like me who, you know complains a lot about not wanting to run it back. I love that. I got to a boss. I finally got to wave three. He died with one hit fuck. You know what I mean? Rather have to go to start and go over again, you can spend the coin you have to get back in and go go. Ohoh, that's nice. yeah, yeah. Eemies that same health then or is it like a reset of right here and just pick me up with the same who are dead,? That's cool Yeah,. Now that I'm you want me to do it on very hard. I'll do it but I gotta tell I can't you gotta. Yeah Now we got to lock in on that one. Okay. Interesting. Pop up and get me. Now are there bosses that we'll see in this little temple that you went into? Where What are we on? So it had question marks above it, but I have cleared this one out. Oh, okay. This is already, this is a done deal for me. So it's like, yeah, that treasure chest, sorry was the last thing I needed to get here The fact that you can see everything here tells you I've been here. Okay. But again, what they make travel very nice where it's like, okay, cool, you've been there. There's a jumping point. you trast travel back to the door. Y you're on your way. you don't have to worry about it. Same thing for boss temples or boss fights usually right before the boss, there's gonna be a little safe spot outside so you can be like, okay, cool I w wantanna go. and you go. Okay, let's see how this connects So you got to come to here Mike and you go. Oh, how do I get here? Yeah, Oh over here, no. Oh. You go, Oh over here, Mike, look, there's got some sort of gates, Yeah, yeah. I'm to just say myself two seconds, which is. Okay. And I'm hope that I was just there. Yeah. we're gonna to go. We're. We' see what's up. And that's the breakdown of let me get into a new area here Okay. And so little cartography. What about the four different ages? They have, you know, same map, but different looks to it, we'll say.. But like what is the four different ages? What's drawing you to each? Is it Hey just I want to complete this whole area now and then I go to the next stage, complete that whole area. you're gonna be the story will very much be like Oh man, you need to find this kind of thing. Oh probably in the age of budding, probably in the. Like they're very it's very handful of where you need to go. And honestly, probably to a fault, right? of like I love the adventure of it and I love exploration. So early on, I was like, I'm gonna keep doing that. And inevitably you bump up against that wall we're like I need a bomb. I don't have bombs yet. Clearly I'm gonna have to blow this up and then get somewhere else likeike, I don't whatever weapon they probably want me to use here. It was that kind of thing. Yeah. even Enjoying that I knew I had to strap in for the ride that they're giving. Oh actually give it which isn't bad, but it's just like, oh okay, I was enjoying it the other way. I noticice down below you have the compass slash map, but it's there's nothing on it. Is it always like that or is that just because you're in a section that you don't have unlocked? What's up with that? I'll level with you. I've never used it. Never even looked down at that bottom right Okay. I mean like, I don't know how. I think yeah I think it's obviously giving you There's a magic thing up there for for the ferry. There's a shortcat door down there, whichich is gonna be key to this whole thing. We got to get to this chest, we got to get there. So we're seo here. Yeah. Yeah the southern caves, that's bouncing me off there. Maybe there's another connector in there? So they show you the connectors no matter whats even if you've not Once you've pull the fog back. Oh okay. If for instance, yeah, like that's a bad example. But if that was going up north they wouldn't have anything. It would be, hey I am no is only seen because you see that I can see that. Okay, okay. Okay. What are some of your favorite areas of this map? Because of course, we have some different biomes here. I like it What are some of the coolest look? Let's still get this treasure chest. I think you know, over here, we got a really nice snowy area. Okay. I'm a big fan of a snowy area I like that. Yeah Yeah. Get over there, have some fun, cool little pixel pek. Exactly, exactly. comeome on over here And any party members ever join you or should it always Ellot by himself? Always Ellot by himself. Okay. You know, you stand off on a lot of missions and you meet a lot of people, but not you're solo ad menturing this. Anybody everbody Anybody ever stand out. We're like, o my, this character was fun. Yeah, I don't want to name names. There's a couple in the game So I was my thing with octopath was meeting your party members, meeting your town members, meeting your enemies, all so well done, all so fleshed out For me, legitimately, there's just one couple in the game that I think in an octopath game wouldn't rank that high in terms of it. but in this land of the blind, the oneyed King. You know what I mean? Like they' the closest I got to being like, okay, cool, L I like you guys. I fuck with you guys. I'm gonna protect you guys. That was so good Land of the Blind, the one I'd gave her. That was great. He was the bl And big differences here if you're noting him. I'm still kidding you guys. Yeah, you're kicking ass. I have to be perect on my period of wal. Yeahes, so they're just hitting you harders, right? Okay. And big differences on all the different systems you played on? Oh pretty Oh, o, you mean you were jumping on devices yeah? No, no, no, yeah. I Great stuff all the way through. Okay, nice. I My rog ran great. The razor killed it and it also didn't overheat. Yeah. It didn't sound like a jet engine taking off, which you know, always the sign of what's going on there. You like OctTo a lot. What are some things that you would want them to take from lessons learned into Octto Oh, great the flip side Oh wow, I like the question a lot, likeike. O shit. Yeah all theyart. Yeah, you can change the difficulty as well if you're like, 'use you're talking with me. I appreciate that. I appreciate. Well, we' have to wait can pay to come back. There go. And what also is nice about it is you'll see Oh no. interestnteresting. Maybe it's a lower difficulty thing where lower difficulty, if I died multiple times with the boss, the amount of money would go up Okaynce I left that area, it would reset. Oh, but he come back up yeah, six hundred or whatever. What was the question, sir? Oh bring. What would you bring into Octo since you lik that franchise? Yeah. H D Okay, well mightre some really goodcussions. I like that. Octopath zero, my favorite octopath. Okay. Oh, okay. And I think part of it was making a character and being that character rather than the traditional you're gonna play eight different characters. Yes, ye. So I would have really preferred as much as you hear me dog on Elliot all the time. I hate this fucking hat I don't even like little shaw I would love it if we could make our own character here. they were for the next adventures of whatever, the next mnum tale, whatever they want to call it, I was able to make my own hero.. But you wanted to go the opposite way. sorry. I'd like them to keep that going forward, I guess. Yeah hereere, I'm sorry, I'm already trying to, you know, my and quarterback this game Which is good too, because we want to know what you would like to see in the sequel. We've talked about that a little bit, but yeah, is there anything in this? We're like, oh man, Octopath would really benefit from that. Any system, anything up? Any that you love. No, I mean, this is honestly kind of a monkeyaw situation. Okay. We're playing octopath. You'd say Greg, what do you want the next game for? I'd say keepeep everything, but make it action. You want the best man. Now that I got it, I'm like, Really miss the tur? Okay. You know what I mean? Well, I mean but you know, I felt more challenged by Octopath Ferurn basase stuff than I did. And even now you're like, well you're getting your outest kick? I'm like, okay, I'm not I'm talking to you and I'm not parrying it. Yeah of course. And I've never been the perry poppy. That's not what it's about. Yeah I don't know, my God.'s Octopath is so perfect. That's great to be. Every one of those games has gotten so much better It I wouldnna live it. But in a fewut trucks path, you would like to create Greggy. I thought theyy here. I thought Okay. nice. And again, that's a me thing. Yeah Oh An another nice thing they do here Is that it wasn't better. When you get like the three star version of whatever Yeah, it just auto equips. So like o, it's just it's not you have to remember it. I was gonna to ask you, let's talk about the inventory and the gear here, right? Is it overwhelming like Diablo or there nice features where it's like, hey, we just put on the best one. J you know onene of the things we were talking about in the review was, okay, it's kind of baby's first sellb You know what I mean? But I think even to a We talk about Minecraft Dungeons being Baby's first action RPG Diablo, right? I think this one's dumbed down too much into the same way of like You know'm granted, now I'm playing difficult you saw eat shit a couple of times, right? I never once used medicine Oh never once you used hey, I need I need more health These are potions. Yeah, yeah,kay. Never did it. It's never. I think maybe because I don't mind spinning the coin if I die. but also just because it wasn't challenging that way. Same thing here where you unlock these and they keep leveling up Great, You never do anything with it. I was bummed out, you know, a lot of times in these games Diablo particular, right? Hey, I've done all this stuff. I've got all this stuff. Now I go sell all that stuff. I' make mad coin doing that. Yeah. No. No selling here. Yeah You're not collecting stuff to go sell. So you don't have a bag where I have to look at seven different items and start weighing them. It is your inventory and like that's when I find a better item, they're going to auto equip it. That's it. You'll never see your old sort twenty other sorts. Yeah. Okay.. Oh, that's yeah, that's nice. makeake it simple. But I miss it. I don't like again, like the kind of thing I'm looking for in these games I want to be way the options going. I want to feel like I'm going to go grind out a bunch of monsters. It's the same thing of like You know, you go kill these things, you pick up all the loot, you go trade it in, you sell It's like, okay, onene of the things from my fable preview, where I was like, can I just sit here be a blacksmith all day? Yeah, yeah if you want to, psychopath'm like, I would really enjoy. That would be a fun way to go make a bunch of coin and be ready to go. Okay, yeah. Yeah, it's almost you ask the question like, do you even need extra swords to just make it one sword forever and you just kind of go with it then. But okay. So those are things that you're finding you have They kind of currency Blood vials for your health. Yeah. What is that? Is that similar to Zelda where it's a big deal finding one or they scattered everywhere? You know, I think I found one and then the shops have them in Oh no shit have in Okay. you're buying the bottle that you can then fill with the magic, you know energy around or wherever the fuck elses for the hell stuff. Okay. But I never did it real You there Yeah just didn't be you. Didn't feel, I'll take you back. I'll show you the shop, okay. Did you notice your feet leave a trail on the snow? That's cute. It is cute That is very well done. Shout out. I agree with that How you know, as someone who hasn't played octopaths since the first one, do they have giant maps now like this? Are you getting the big open world vibe from your octopaths? Yeah, ye, zero is like that.. Tell this stuff to go run around and do. Nice They onll backop to the shop Okay cool. It's like yeah, So you' got your recovery medicine and different versions of it. Yeah, of course.. But you need to have the empty vial for it. I guess I probably already bought the vial up here early. Yeah. I thought I might need that We ask some farms within, okay? Fish. They want me to feed cats a lot. Okay. That's a very importantision G gotta have the cat. So let's Why would I feed the cat? Oh fucking know Okay, I think it was some loyalty thing. I don't know what he's fucking talking about. L 'use they're already here. Yeah, I already like me, but here you go, seeing boom. I got twenty three now so I'll get a better quiver. Oh, okay, I can home Mer. Yeah, you got more. Okay. You see me working, I got that golden egg coming up. What's up with that golden egg? Yeah, I w to increase the amount of money drop by one hundred percent. Oh, okay. The metedal of Cats and Meister.' did there? They put the cat in. I like that. Okay Beause all the cats that orded to true Oh wow. All right. Okay. And so now your goal is to go explore. Now you have to go all four ages. Oh yeah. and just go run up to cats, say, I'm your friend now and then they come back with you.. Okay, okay. Check out this guy. What is your favorite age? Do you have one? No, they all run together. They all I don't think really I don't think there's really Again, they didn't do anything interesting with it. I thought again, oh, I'm going to go back to this there was one part where I went spoilers, I guess, notot really, but like the first one you went to, Elliot was so thought it was the past. He was so hung up on it being the past. I'm like, clearly this is going gonna be the future, and wasn't. It was just the past. I' like, o. goh. Like I want to go and I want to do the thing where like we get a big fight and I gets smashed into the wall and the balls crack the rest of the game Al always don't get that How is Elliot's voice acting? We don't like fairy, How's Elliot? No, he's fine. You know again, I think he's, you know, doing the best with Let's not the voice actor is great. He does a great job. Elliot is a character. I'm an adventurer. I do good because it's good to do. It's like, o, I was talking earlier to Jen about it when I first started playing. I'm like, this is why People think they hate Superman. M. I'm a good guy. I'm a good boy sccout. Yeah, yeah. I just do good to do good. You know what I mean like okay, Elliot, like you're nerd. Nobody wants to hang out your door. S say that water looks good though. Oh here? Yeah, water Yeah game ofor. Yeah, game looks great. But it was that thing of, again, like I'm playing it and I was like, man, I gotta go right talk to it I gotta finish that true. I love that game so but it was like because this is good for sure, but like So you hope that this team will get an opportunity to make a second one improve on this. This team, like I'll be with to the end of time. You put out a game from them. I'm all That's amazing. I'm all about that. And I don't care what genre it is. I don't care. you know I mean, even though it's a little bit different, but the guy who does this is consulting on it or whatever, it's kind of confusing for me. That final fantasy residence. A yes,. Yeah, let's go. All right, cool, Octopath looking Final Fantasy, I'm inless. I'll be a part of this. Let's see good good. Okay, let's go get this cat. this cat And there's a jump button in this. I see you hop it all around. Yeah. Okay. Like I said, I don't know if to see it. And any of the stuff we'll do today, but lots of platforming in different. How do you hurting me all first? I was gonna ask you, yes, so lots of platforming. How is the exploration? Is it rewarding or like you kind of said, they kind of dumped it down where it's like, here's where it's at. just get there. Early on, I would walk into dungeons and, Oh man this place is big. This is gonna be over and it wasn't. And I know overwhelming might sound bad and it c of be of course I can think of Gring up playing Zelda dungeons where I'm like what the fuck you want me to do? Yeah O' Brian, let me your guide. I don't know what you know what I mean? But this is so no. this is the exploration, it feels good to pull back the fog of war and find the cat and do the thing. But it's not like I accomplished something here. I followed the thing and I got the thing. here's the fucking c. Great. S, Wlcome to this cat. Yeah. we're friends. And again back to like notot, you know, wanting to come back and is like How many more casts do I want to talk to? How many more casts do I want to talk to? Do you want to come get this you know, whatever charm? Like no, I'm not hurting for money, nor am I hurting for experience or I don't feel like I I haven't been Okay, so what we should talk about is the magicite again. Okay. let me let's get out of here And I'll take you back because again, I already introduced the idea of how Magisite works and what you can do with it. But I'll take you to the actual Magisite gang. okay. because like again, Magisite early on, very early on was the goal for me of like what I was doing, okay? So' way back here huh We're gonna to talk to the Magistite Man. Beag you pick up the Magistite crystals throughout. Okay. Then there's a Magisite man over here. So you'll find the things you've already seen me equipped and I talked about, right? where okay, this is worth four and I have you know, I think you start off with ten, but maybe it was six off told. And those are affecting slash leveling up certain weapons you Affecting not leveling. Okay. So then there's this guy over here, right? So now you can go for him. Originally you only had this exclamation Okay, come in and say, okay, I have it takes five and they do this. Now you have them for the different weapons you want to use, right? So if you if you me, I'm all about sword, I'm all about the boomerank. Okay. So I find myself now just pouring my magestide in Yeah. So you come up here and I go, you know what, form as much as I can, right? You see my rank down there As my form rank goes up, I get better odds on which how many stars I'm going to get.ight. So it's this idea of like, that's an P filling in for me to go through and do all this magicide business Okay go in here. Now the cat's gonna to spit out all these different things that'll be just for sword because I went that. Yeah. Oh form top right there the first time. What the first time. Anyways, you see all the stuff I've unlocked. Now, a lot of these are gonna be duplicates. attack up this. I'm gonna make this. A lot of these will be duplicates and they'll just be boom, turning back into the mag. it back into my pouch So this way you could go through and just get new stuff open. Okay, okay. Yeah, yeah. Anyways, so so stick with me. I know I'm throwing a lot at you. You can disassemble if you want more Magicite crystals, never salw the need. But more importantly a Magicite box. Like I said, when you start, you have the number one and it can only hold six ye cost limit as you now go through I was earning the money, I was then going back here and all right, give me the next box, Give me the next box. G me the next box so I could make myself more, more, more, more powerful, right? I did that for a long time, where it would be, I'd be tracking how much money I needed. Okay, let's go It's expensive, obviously. But to what we're talking about, even now playing on the hard is difficulty. You eventually turn that corner' like, why I don't need to work. anymore. And So you could have upgraded that sort run from forty five costs to fifty cost, which then you would be able to equip another five or seven depending on which one you want to add on to this. Okay, okay. Do you know if there's a max number on that? Yeah, I mean, I imagine, I'm guessing it stops at ten, right? That kind of seems like these kind of games. Oh o. leevel ten stops Okay, yeah on level seven, there's level eight, I imagine. Okay Okay Greg, we are winding down today's kind of fununny games cast plays for Ellie in the Millennium Tale Is there anything I didn't ask you? Is there anything you want to show off one more time before we get out of here When you think back on your review, of course, you can go check out that review right now, kind of funont a games cast with Andy Roger and Greg talking all things Elliot's and his hats. Of course, we would love for you to check that out. But yeah, if you want to learn more, go check out that review. But Greg, when you think about your time with me showing this off and the audience actually getting to see it live and in action as well Is there anything that you might have missed? I think so. I think I've did a good job taling you and showing you the highlights of it again, like I said. For me, a six point five. Okay, almost almost good Not by any stretch of the imagination, a bad game. You know what I mean? I think you could find a lot of fun. I saw somebody earlier saying they've been playing all day. Oh there it is. Lightning magma. This game is dope as fuck having a lot of fun with it. I'm glad. Like again, there's fun to be had here. It just didn't hit the highs I wanted Yeah, whichich I don't think is shocking coming off the fact that Octopeth Travel Zero was my favorite game of last year. so it's like I just wanted that kind of Aion delivery story here in Dynmark. Why I came us last year Holy cow. Okay. 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