Preschool etiquette and hand gestures

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That's good. That's my aim. or why away One point what is it? one point twenty one jigawatts I cannot remember Wh reference this specific amount But it was fun to hear it pronounnce jigger. It was it was. You should plug the show Be it's rare that I don't have to improvise as much banter because everyone here has got a shutter plug. Do you know what you're doing at the fringe yet? Oh yeah, yeah. I'm doing a show called Late Night with Stuart Laws and it's different every single night. Who knows what will happen Do we have dates and times for it yet or is it It's the first twelve days, basically. I don't really remember. It's eleven thirty. It's at the don and you know one of the Kight's will be, Stuart Laws correctly identifies one hundred rebels or your money back He's definitely locked in. We don't know what the others are going to be yet. I have no idea if rebels come up in the questions today, but I suspect they won't. Good luck to you on the show today. You are joined by two brand new players to lateral. Deavine Bentley. We will go to you first. Wlcome to the show. Thanks so much for having me I'm terrified but excited. This is not really the kind of standard comedy panel show that comedians get invite on, but thank you for braving it anyway Very welcome. Yes, I also have an Edinburgh show coming to the Pleasants. It's going to be on everyday at five thirty at the cellar. It's called Dancing W Old It's about being old but still dancing Now As someone who is in his forties and increasingly grumpy about it there is No whereere you count as that yet, congratulations. mean No, I am in my forty, I'm forty two. and M Yes, I' old, but I look younger, but I feel old, but I feel very young and it's a lot of feelings and all of these things will be sort of discussed and looked at in a hilarious and exciting way in my Edinburgh show. Excellent pluging work there. Well done Last Friday, welcome to the show. Someone who said he was just extremely tired right now. Patrick. Welcome to Lateral. Hello. I'm really awake right now. It's a fantastic time. Yeah Thank you very much. veryy excited to be on the show and and see what new facts and things I can find out, tease out of my brain, maybe. I do have you listed here as Dr., Ed Patrick. I mean to be honest, a lot of people call themselves doror and then you have to really ask Are you really a doctor basically these days? but I am really a doctor. so I'm anetthetist working in a hospital whilst also juggling with comedy too. so H it great access to a supply of laughing gas which funds both worlds. Can I ask some questions? Are they Are they about some lymph nodes that are shown Rp it wrong? Yeah they're diagnostic.'s I want to know if there is such thing as an esthetist. An esthetist as opposed to anesetist. Yes N heard And what would that be I don't know, but I'm now tasking prodroducer David in the time that Ed has to plug the show. I amm tasking prodroducer David to look at a dictionary and find that out, Ed Why is the show? So my show, I'm doing a short run at the end of fringe. I'm doing I think it's the seventh to the sixteenth at the Gild of Bloom with a day off in between because I like to have a little bit of time off And I'm doing working on a new show. it's a work in progress called Num and Numa Oh, that's good Thank you Okay. I am releliably informed Anesthesia comes from an without aesthesia meaning sensation. so that probably formed first I guess Eesthetist would be like a hedonist, I think, sensation seeking. Yeah. Or it could be a neurodiverse person with sensory issues. It could, it could on this show, I'd be shocked But surely someone, you know, who says, Oh I don't feel anything, you want to see an ethetist, don't you? Not an ethotist. Yeah, to kind of You know, to feel things again. Isnt that not a drug dealer? Yeah there we go. That's a therapist, isn't it? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, good luck to all three of you on the shelf today. Let's see if we can feel something with Question one Thank you to Katie Warning for this question Katie sent her friends a message with a picture of two suitcases, saying, I lost both of these bags Why was this met with congratulations I'll say that again Katie sent her friends a message with a picture of two suitcases, saying, I lost both of these bags Why was this met with congratulations My initial thought went towards bags, Oh, they've had their under eye bags removed, but then you repeated it, I realised I'd forgot. I'd just not listen to the first part where you say suitcases. pict No, but it did, but both of these it was referred to as both. It was the picture of two suitcases. Lost them. So yeah maybe is it a blot under blh? Is that right? Ed? Is that it's called Isn't it? I mean, I'm online a lot looking at a lot of celebrities and What they've had done and not I think well I think this is there's a confusion here between aesthetics and anesthetics. so that would medicine. Oh surely the broad knowledge So I mean, you get bags under the eyes as part of your NHS contract But I don't I'm not sure that I'm not sure what the procedure is actually, but that seems like a good theory U I was thinking that it was An airline mistake I've you'd be cross if if they'd lost both of your bags at an airline, you'd be liivered. unless the insurance money Well, exactly yes. I got a flight delayed once and I didn't have to be home for anything And under EU law, I got like five hundred quid or something for it And they said, just send in your receipts and you can claim that. And they also then paid off all of the receipts that I sent in for the hotel for everything. So I basically got almost a grand for just going home a day later. Did you by any chance send a picture to Katie saying lost both of these bags Okay. You are right, Stuart, that it is a different use of the word bags And cly kind just there Medical and body stuff, actually kind of the right way to go here he hit it have he hit it on the head already then No We're not on the head. No, no, but certainly like okay If you're swinging the hammer around, you you've hit a nearby nail, just not necessary. She ref goingring to her boobs as bags because I just think that's unacceptable guys. Unacceptable and I can't believe that was even been raised as bag for life. Bags for life a couple bags for life. Yeah or not U if of course he loer Bags, justust going through the old bags, bags Ball. it's a reference Don't think she' say congratulations here. could it oh, it could be u Childbirth, Hving twins I mean, I don't know if the how that bags Amniot at sack. Is that a sack? Amiot at sack? two sacks? I lost a couple of ammiotic sacks. Oh well, congratulations, Katish. You know what I'm like So it is body. stud it was right with it being close to the body. It's something guys, quick, look at your bodies What? What might you be congratulated for losing Now I keep thinking of baby, sorry If I tell you the picture of the two suitcases was not her with the suitcases, it was from an airline website it's like Ryan easy Yeah, the name is related to the body part Nope, no, just just why might there be bags on an airline website? might What might be Excess baggage. Oh right, is it like a lipos suuction sort of thing the skin after losing fat. for excess package. you're both thinking way more invasive. You're basically there You don't normally give someone congratulations. for surgery I do. That's where you're wrong. I under. say congratulations on your rhinoplasty. So it's not a surgery.'s not a surgery. something removed, but it's not surgical. Lost. Oh, you've lost weight. Yes, you just lost weight. you've lost weight, sorry. And so why those two bags? Why that picture of an airline website She lost that amount of weight. She lost that amount of weight. She lost Wow. thirty one kilos. That is twenty three kilos for the checked bag eight kilos for the carry on. That is the maximum weight you can take on a plane. And her whole message said I remember how much I complained when I once carried the heaviest allowed bags through the airport and I have now lost both of them Wow. That's amazing. She could argue for an extra check bag at the next Not surely That is I remember there being a lot of controversy about that. I know there was some airline that threatened to weigh passengers on check in I think there was a lot of sort of uploaded stuff around people being like, well, my space was constricted because the person next to me it's a tricky. C I just say that this is bro my memories. I did lose a bag actually on on a certain, let's just say it's a Pasy Jet flight it was it was it was traumatic. Oh ye because was I was going to a snow filled area. And I was wearing like t shirt and shorts and all my warm stuff was in there so it was a But where were you coming from to get to the ski Why are you in Smmer clothes Because I wear shorts all the time I mean you're one of the Hello. Wow. This is just for show, but the real deal is down.. Just union jack boxes on under here. I never got to wear trousers for these peoplees Each of our guests has brought a question along with them. We'll start today with Ed So this question has been sent in by Nate So, while studying fake medical treatments, what valuable discovery did psychologist Dan Arilli make about the placebo effect So while studying fake medical treatments, what valuable discovery did psychologist Dan Arilli make about the placebo effect? Up until Ed said placebo effect in that question, I was sure the answer was, Oh, I discovered the placebo effect. No, that's not. Unfortunately, I think I do know this one. so I'm going to leave this one to Stuart and Deina Right, hang on. So this lad Arilli. was doing a bit of experimenting He found the placebos effect, but he also found something else He found something about it. Yeah So say think So what you know about the placebo effect? If Well like prayer works as long as you know that you're being prayed for As long as you believe it, basically, right? Or you don't know, surely. it's the control group and then the group that don't know they're getting a placebo. So isn't it as long as you don't know that you're in the placebo group? Oh yeah, maybe that's implying a different thing. But like if you're told that you are being prayed for, you feel the benefits of it in the same way that if you are given a drug even if it's a sugar pill. You told that it's good you will feel better you have some sort of feeling of improvement Um And so what did he discover? Oh, did he discover that like the more dramatic the intervention the greater the placebo effect you're getting along the right lines. So you've picked up that the placebo effect is obviously where they feel a benefit From it and the patients believed they were receiving something or people belieceived they were receiving something. But there was one thing that changed about it that seemed to make treatment work. Is it the narrative around it? like the I can't what you call it like the orchestra, the theater of Like the performance of the placebo, like the being seen to do the sort of medical procedures. I think maybe this is like almost Gold Dapers's book U It's something about the narrative of medicine. It's like S sorry, I'm trying to remember you're getting you're actually along the right line. So if you think about this, think about this in your day to day life, so if you were looking at things and things that you do to make yourself feel better, canan you think of any sort of examples of a placebo effect where it might not actually make any difference rationally, but Oh like good luck. L I step I step on two if I see two pavements together, I step on them for luck. Is that? I thought that was bad luck It's self it's self fooled for my own sort of folkloric tradition. Istand correct. Not not to argue with someone's own traditions You cannot What if you don't do anything to make yourself feel better ever That's such a bleak question. don' I can't think of anything I do to make. If you were unwell, let's say, thinkink of anything you particularly Ginger Ginger and orange. thingsings that Okay take that ginger and orange, then. Let's take that ginger and orange. Whatatch things might you do you' quiet Is there anything One of my favorite placebo fact stories and this is why I'm keeping quiet here. One of my favorite stories is that like injections do work better as placebos than taking the pill. There's also, I think the story and this is one of those stories that might not have survived like replication crisis and double checking was a wonderful story that Red placebos for like antidepressants are better than blue ones apart from in Italy, in men because the Italian football team plays in blink Is that true or is that one study that's been quoted out of context couldn't tell you a good story But if I'm right, Ed, this is something along those lines, right If if you take what Thomas said, what other things could you apply that to? about certain treatmentsple toition what sort of things would make you change your perception of that treatment whether the doctor's wearing a white coat No genuinely, like the presentation of it Let's go back to your ginger, was it ginger and? Ginger and orange when you have b or cold. Would it make a difference about where you got it from Yeah,be yeah, maybe if you got it from extra Parmacy, the back street boys, yeah. Yeah ye yeah, yeah. C I get my ginger from And what would be the big difference there, do you think? The more expensive or the more medically associated it was Say it was for the pharmacy or the GP, the more I'd believe in it, I guess, whereas if I'd made it myself. I'm hoping that's right because there was a keyword in the question that clued me in here Yeahep. So you actually hit the nail on the head. So he said that what he found was that the more expensive placebos work better than the cheaper ones. And this is quite an interesting phenomenon across the board. We all do it, whether it's you know stuff like ginger teea and things like that. but also if you look at, I mean, one for me that pops out is that when you go to the supermarket, you've got a cough cold, which I've I had you see all the array of cough cold medicines And you've got the expensive ones at the top, they're all like ten quQid, twelve quQid And they all contain ibuprofen and paracetamol or a mixture of those two. Yet you look at the bottom, you've got exactly the same medications, exactly the same doses. You can read the labels and their pennies compared to it. But people will buy those thinking that they spent more money and therefore the placebra effect of that could help them in that way. So it does still continue today. So Dan and his colleagues ran some experiments looking at how the expectations influenced the placebo effect. and one study they the participants were given what they believed was a pain relief drug was actually a placebo. and some were told that the pill cost two dollars fiftyents, while the others had been told it had been discounted to ten cents. And even though the pills were identical, the expensive version relieved pain significantly more often So it suggests that value is influencing the medical outcomes through expectation And this is it is often cited in behavioral economics as well And we're live on match dayay as Doug reaches for a buffalo wing. He's got it. Oh and he's gone for a can of Pepsy too. What a finish There's no doubt about it. It just tastes better. Match days deserve Pepsy So good, so good. New summer arrivals are at Nordstrom Rack stores now. Get ready to save big with up to sixty percent off brands like Rag and Bone, Levi's, Adidas, and Free People. Join the Nordy Club to unlock exclusive discounts, shop new arrivals first, and more. Plus, buy online and pick up at your favorite rack store for free. Great brands, great prices. That's why you rack Thank you to Jagen for this question In twenty nineteen, the owner of a Manhattan pizzeria began ordering batches of ten pizzas from his own restaurant Later, he ordered nothing but plain dough I'll say that again. In twenty nineteen, the owner of a Manhattan pizzeria began ordering batches of ten pizzas from his own restaurant Later, he ordered nothing but plain dough The plain dough has got to be cheaper for one I don't know. I mean, maybe it was he's trying to put a lid on them. On each pizza, that's it' just he's gone, get the plain dough over. I've got the ten pizzas. Now I've got the dough. I can build a lid and hide the secret of the pizza in the dough in a box is made of dough in a box of dough. Yes, there go. He's building a box of dough. Is this where the Cowalzs only was invented? In Manhattan in twenty nineteen. Famously.. That's what they always say. My first thought was if you or pizza you're ordering pizza from a restaurant you own, aren't you just testing your product like a secret shopper, but for yourself? I v find under it correctly, you order it you own a restaurant, it's yours and now you're ordering pizzas from that restaurant. Yes, that's right. He just loves his own gear. He loves his own gear. Maybe wants to check his own gear hasn't gone down since he's scaled up. Maybe I've watched I've watched Good feellas and stuff like that and, you know, it could be a little bit of You know backstreak financial, you know you keep the sales of the dough up, you know, just going to buy A bunch could be that right? Couldn't it? if it's for like a deive for all of the disruptor companies like Grub Hub What are the other ones over there Uber eats? So I don't understand. how would that work?? You'd set up a brand against your own brand in order to deliver pizzas and therefore make people think that they were buying from a competitor but they weren't. They were actually the same producer and supplier And he set it all up and therefore, you know, you've got two brands competed but you're buying from the same person. So he's driving up competition artificially, which is illgal. It is. It' got antitrust laws. Yeah. Not worth doing in Manhattan where there are already a lot of rival pizza companies. Yeah Stewart, part of that's right, it was via doorash, which is one of the American delivery ones. G dash The old Classic, Yes And so that was to like push it up the algorithm Not in this case. Oh, to review it. He wanted to receive it so he could review it and give it a really good review And I guess you can only do that if you're a door dash customer, presumably. you wouldn't need ten pizzas. I wouldn't need ten pizzas to do that though And Stuart, unfortunately, the multiple chains thing is a thing that companies do, particularly in the U.S. But again, you wouldn't order pizzas to yourself for that Sorry, is the ten pieces being ordered in succession as opposed to one go It's sort of ten instances of door dashing his own restaurant wouldouldn't make a difference in this case. I think it'd be a single order for T So why what's the significance of the ten? Is that significant? or we door dashing down the wrong alley? Good metaphor, going go with a door dashing down the wrong alley there. I would suspect that ten might even be the maximum you could order. So you order ten piezces. It's weird that the dough is just an option on the do So I imagine your doorash app is like Uber. That's weird. because it's not like when we order from Domino's or Pizza Heart. Yeah, that's not a normal option there. But when you order from like McDonald's you can like order burger and strip away everything apart from a slice of cheese. But you can't order the burger raw, can you? But you could strip away. I agree with that that You know, there is a thing when you're like, do you want to take off the Marinara sauce? Do you want to take off the cheese? Maybe he's done it via that way to reveal the cooked dough. He wants to taste the base Hm I feel like we should start offering this as comedians. Yeah that people can strip away variety of yo and you go, I just want the setups if that's okay. Oh I'd love. he was ordering pizza dough with no toppings Absolutely. That is set up no punchline. Uncooked, Uncooked. I don't know if it was uncooked or not. Wouldn't really have made a difference.. mightight have helped me even more if it was uncooked, to be honest. it, I want to pick up on a word you said which was disrupts. But ye this is twenty nineteen doorash here. Oh, so he's got some discounts. Okay, so this is why you should always use these venture capitalist s of set of things. But you should use them when they first start and use all of their discount codes and then stop using them. So basically when they come in, they undercut everyone around to basically disrupt the market, and then once they put other people out of business, then jack up the prices So he's taking advantage of the doorash discounts at the time to order all of his pizzas. cheaper than they actually cost and then reselling them. Yes. Very, very close. I think Ed was about to just kick a thing So he's ye, so he's buying the dough as Stuart said because Discount means that the dough is cheaper than what he purchased it for, so he's kind of making a making a profit from buying his own b at a cheaper rate and then being able to use it again. Yes Uh Almost like I'll give you that that is that is close enough and like how can we be any closer? Well Dorash was undercutting his own restaurant So the menu. The price was about twenty four dollars for a pizza. The door dash listing set up without his permission offered the pizzas for sixteen dollars which meant that he could order a pizza from himself through Doorash Paid doorash sixteen dollars and receive more than sixteen dollars from Doorash So there was an arbitrage opportunity there. So it's like gaming he gamed the system. Yes. Is that what arbitrage is in P and pizza formation. I think that's kind of what arbitrage is in most situations. Yep, there is a ch someone is selling a thing for less than I can sell it for It's just I happen to be both people here. Can I just say what a sweet deal for the drivers that must be. Right? You know I'm going to pick it up and oh, I've already delivered. My quoter is done Davina, whenever you're re Your question, please When staying in hotels, Josh often takes a particular hanger from the wardrobe to help him get a good night's sleep When staying in hotels, Josh often takes a particular hanger from the wardrobe to help him get a good night's sleep why? So I feel like this It feels like a security thing because you're in a hotel, it's in a familiar environment And we've all been there. We've all been in a hotel where it's felt a little bit dodge How do you know How you know that? Comedions on the road, almost c. You will have all ended up at a gig somewhere where that only hotel is are really dodgy place nearby. Yeah, we've all played hot water. yeah ' I've stayed at a hotel where I then came back was after a wedding And I went in and I thought, Where's my car key? Ething else was there. Where's my car key? And I looked out the window and the car was gone broken into the hotel room and a whole bunch of the hotel rooms and just taking car keys. But the the real crap thing about it was that The hotel was at a motorway service station, so there was no way to leave. Oh no I was stuck on the motorway It's horror thing. right pain It was yeah. it was I think you're right Anyway, so I'm well I ofve got the feelings for this one. So maybe I don't know, did the hanger go as a sort of do not disturb or did it go on like the handle to kind of prevent, you know so that you could hear if someone was opening the door N any other thing You are correct You're correct in that no, no sorry. shouldn't sorry. I wrote this question. You were correct in another use for the hangar is the answer. It's not security related but it does relate to using the hanger to do something else in the room It may not be securing the door. Gatification or It was like the first thing That's extraordinary, The first thing is security and the second thing is self gratification it was like the hierarchy of men. It's a hotel. It's a hotel You' say Maswell's hierarchy there, aren't you really are. It' so different being a woman. It's just security, security, security the hoid out Okay, me and Stu, we just go to hotels and just look at the Hangers. Yeah. I was thinking, you said particular hangers Now there are two types of hangers in hotels. you have the normal triangular ones. you hang a shirt off But you also have those ones with little clips on that you can attach trousers or something and wonder if it is a particular hang, it's gott to be that style or something special about the h That's it, Tom. Okay That's exactly the right path That you were meant to be door dash. Did hang up a towel across the window because the curtains weren't working Cs weren't working. They just so It's so the right track without it being exactly it. It's like the track and you really So the curts weren't closing fully, so therefore we used the hanger to close them fully so we can get good night's sleep. That's exactly right. I feel like that was an assist. That was a cross from Stewart. This is football speak And then Ed headed it right in. Yeah. That was beautiful the glory you guys you were so near it so early on was quite shocked. with the self gratification thing. Eact I was like, well, it's one step from masturbation. I mean, he did have to shut the curtains. And make sure that even the little crack of light in the middle was covered by presumably a hanger and a towel Well you don't need the towel Do you not? A they're using the clip to bring them together? Oh ye ye Oh I hadn't made that connection. I was thought he was hanging something up. Are you using a towel in your sort of hypothetical scenario to to physically fill the gap I've stayed in so many cheap hotel rooms where the curtains do not completely closed and there's light in the morning. and I have never, ever thought to do that Yeah, it's good stuff. I stayed in a hotel in Swansea that was twenty six pounds for the night and it was. lowest ranked for value for money That was the lowest ranking. Wow on booking dot comot How was it? It wasn't value for money. Yeah. but I made it through the night Thank you to Samuel Kerr for this next question Three friends agree to meet at a local park in Portland, Oregon for a picnic When they arrive, they find they are unable to set out their picnic blanket So that again, Three friends agree to meet at a local park in Portland, Oregon for a picnic. When they arrive, they find they are unable to set out their picnic. Be there's so many trees it's Oregon. I suppose that's a forest, that's not a park, a park's clered. I've got a real left field entry into this is that one of my favourite band is a band called Fidlar, FID LAR And they do a song called West Coast And in it they talk about going to Portland And then they say, but you can't buy liquor in Oregon. And I don't know if that's something that is like a w just a lyric or whether that is something because they've got ooz and there iffore we're allowed to drink it in public. So I'm going I'm wondering if it's something to do with alcohol. Is there something to do with that I've had to very quickly look this up. Oregon has Aarently a monopoly a government monopoly on selling alcohol It's like Sweden, then you go. I have been to Portland, Oregon, but I don't think I must have bought booze there I've drunk in a bar in Portland and yeah, but I guess once it gets to the bar it's fine. But this is bar think I think buying. you know like in Sweden, you have to go to like a special government shop You you know what it looks like a supermarket, but there's just boo some fags I think I swear I have bought from a gas station over there. In Portland? in Oregon. No in Oregon. Yeahah, yeah then if you're right, if it's statewide, the Oregon Lquor and Cnabis Commission. becausecause they have expanded in recent years So what's the rules then? you can't buy it. You can buy a licensed premises like a bar but but not as an off license. So you can only buy from a bar or from government run shops. W not a supermarket or anything. No There's a few places that do that. Wow. I've learned something from lyrics. Good lyric knowledge Good Oregon knowledge. Not related to the question I'm afraid. I was going to say It justust just say that you had to buy booze from this special, you government shop. I don't know why that means that you can't lay down the picnip blanket So I think it must be something about I didn't go to the park in Oreon Portland I was about to say Portlandia alow. but it basically was Portlandia U I'm just trying to think is it something about the like the not the infrastructure, the the layout of it. Is it something Wildlife? Well yeah, like there were redwood I I'm trying to remember the drive, it was like It was they did have really beautiful stuff around it because it still is Oregon. Was it within the city limit? Be I don't know if this is true for Portland, but because Seattle is built on top of Seattle whether or not park was like structurally weak and that you're not allowed to put anything into the ground or something if they were looking to like pin down there whher that I would't be an issue. I think Deina's right with layout Is it bears? It's got to be bears. Well, I was just thinking if there was like a bear. or bear problems, then they wouldn't want you having picnics near there. I dont if Oregon has B If they've got beare problems. Oh nice, bringing that London humour. Oh, I assume you meant bere like Oh yeah yeah got absolute bare problems over here. I've got bare problems, but a bear ain't one Yeah f good. Yeah I'm sorry not American is. sorry, what did you say? I said I got bear problems But a bear ain't one. You heard me and I sh't say it again. I would still be on the layout of the park here. Okay, sorry. Sry we got a really good cute and I was like, you got some problems here. A layout. You can't something is laid out in such a way that you cannot put your picnic blanket down because it's made of spikes There are spikes everywhere and that's Oh dial architecture. Not in this case, but Oh, I was going say because there is a lot there is a homeless issue in Portland U Teless bikes Yeah Yeah, because they do they seem to have a massive ventrgal issue. it Is it a nature thing rather than a man made thing I would go with man madeade here. Yeah not homeless spikes. Not homeless spikes, but you're right along the lines of homeless spikes. So I just took what Stuart said and said it louder. I've seen that. That wasoundag Ied to be on the receive again. And you know what? itelt Horrible. You absly loved it. He loved it. No, he liked it Oh, is it the fact that America, in their cities, their parks are just like little bits of concrete with one tree That's it I mean, you're very close to the photo I've got in front of me here. so keep yourour park is so It's not a park. Yeah, well oh we'll go to the park. And then you get there and it is an absolute joke that you're like sorry. this country's so big you should fit more parks in. In theory though, you could still lay down your picnic blanket on a bit of concrete. This park was once world famous because it's doing this. the plates of the earth Ins escape Flock And you're basically there with lump of concrete with one tree in the middle. I just need you to think of it smaller It's one paving stone. That's all they have for a park. It's one slab. Yeah, you know what? It's too small. It's too small for your pitnip blank cur. Yeahep, this is Mill Ends Park in Portland, which was once the smallest park in the world. according to the Guinness Book of Records. It is a two foot circle with Exactly Stewart said, a single tree in the middle of it I tell you what I tell you what, get to August, we'll charge sixteen quid for people to come and watch us do a show and that. 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Eligible students get a year of Microsoft three hundred sixty five premium and a year of Xbox GamePass ultimate with a custom color Xbox wireless controller. Learn more at windows dot com slash student offer Whw supppplies last ends june thirtieth turnerms at aka. mS slash collllege PC Start, it is over to you Now this question has been sent in by Hannah Williams. Thank you, Hannna. Where would you regularly hear phrases like hips and liipps Man hands, ducktails and pockets, and what actions do they encourage That's where would you regularly hear phrases like hips and lips, man handands, ducktails, and pockets And what actions do they encourage There and docktails like an Itonian coode no. Oh, I don't know. I was thinking like the cartoon show Oh Dctor I did think that as well f. please to be clear. But then I which says something about how much Disney has wound its way into my brain that my first thought was not the literal tail feathers of a duck. on show I grew up watching I was sorry, I thought you me the computer game based on it, which was so good. I spent on the Se meegaro it Seg Megrop? was Game Boy. No, it was Gameoy And now I thought we were talking about prison I was like completely opposite. I was like, Oh hips and hands. put your hands by your hips sort of thing. But you know, when they were hosing people down in like short shp redemption, that kind of thing. I was thinking maybe that was Where's the lips Hips Lip Hips. It's quite sensual perhaps person. We are all starting to make hand gestures here. It does feel like it's somewhere to put your hands Well sort of like childish then, like a nursery school. I feel like shes and toes. A little bit. put your hands on your lips. and then I thought like lifetime on the hips, moment on the lips But then doesn't Docktell and Pcket sound like Taylor? Yes, it does a morning suit Is that what you call it on the back of a pursuit? Is this is this a sort of periods Reference question, Stuart, Is it like a time? I guess you could say it is a period reference in the sense that everything is a period. So to answer that question, no I'm of polite now. Ignore the thing you said. O manan hands is throwing me off though because all the other three feel like there're somewhere that you could like be told to put your hands, but man hands is a I call all all hands, man hands even my own Yeah, if they're wandering somewhere they don't belong or they're about to. Yeah then it's a man hand. Manhandling, it feels You are in the you are in the territory, by the way. I don't want you to veer too far away from the territory you're in Yeah, is it clothing? Tailoring? It's not clothing, No. I mean, you know There is accessory. There's clothing involved at some point, but it's not the overarching theme of it. Oh, it's etiquette Is it something to do with etiquette likeike it Wy in etiquette? Like put your man on your man hunt? Is it like de bress a man? when you're having like photos like tummy and chest out kind of thing? Is it like a Now you're in that you're in the right t. you also mentioned sort of vaguely roughly where this would happen as well earlier It was sort of someone said it as an aside. Prison. But who would this be said to? M Gentlemen Gentlemen, now No I don't think so Children Yes. Children, you say to little children because these are all like etiqute of how a child should behave? Oh that throws out my theory. I was like these are model poses. Like you have a photographer taking pictures as someone like Hitler, these the things they have to pose into. but now Tom, I would like to see You would like to see hips on? Yeah. so I'm the photographer now with Dvers of you. Okay, Ducktails. So I just immediately went who all And I real all that is like putting your hand now doesn't feel like a model pose. Okay, man hands, man hands No, that's justaz. Is this like is this like, you know that bit in the Blues Bothers where they're doing the dance to shake your tail further? Is this what we're doing. Yeah So is it a dance? to shake a tail further No, you've already hit on it. You've already basically got the answer. I think I have to sort of give you that, but now wanting to he do more bits on it. So these are Are these code words or like like Fun ways to tell kids this is what you should do now. Absolutely bang on. So now we have to work out what these are So that's hips and hip one on the hip and one on the lips this Correct And what would that what would that signal that they're supposed to be doing? They need to shut the heck up Yeah. Be quiet St still Okay K keep it sassy because I want to see hands on to hit Okay, man hands Hhams is just about the patriarchy and it's teaching men at such a young age to not just because you want to Does't mean you should grab it?. Oh. no, no because it's like yeah, keep fold your arms. keep keep your hands in Yeah. and so be grumpy. Andult Yeah. ye. Okay. And not not tell anyone about it for sixty, seventy years of your life Pockets must be hands in pockets that Ps of pockets and ducktails Put your hands behind you like a little tail and your hands are like that fect Yeah. Yeah. And it's so Hannah who' sent in the question is a preschool teacher and she said that they use all of these phrases on a daily basis. My own preschool and kindergarten teacersher uses these phrases as well Aad you said you were a new dad? I guess you're gonna to learn that in a couple of years time? Absolutely ye. be I'm gonna be ducttailing my way to the preschool whatever it is. Which means we just have the question from the start of the show, sent in by Stephen B. Does any of the panel want to take a quick shot at this? How do cats die twice when traveling from the UK to Spain Is it to do with them petty more No No s Pettym more. I don't know they good. Wh should any an goody more? Pull it doesian time this episode? No, no Is it is it because they need to I don't know, they It's a part of the immigration process that they have to kind of lose alive before they enter into Spain. They have to be sedated, don't they Is it to do sedation Is it that something live cannot be traveveling? so they have to be like of some archaic old rule. and so that has to be medically described as dead. In order to be transported. Nothing bad happens to them in transit. I'm not saying it would. I'm not saying that they on a form it has to be like this technically dead. Bureaucratically dead. Yes. Yes. Bureucratically dead. I love that No, but perhaps metaphorically dead would be a good way of putting it. So they tear up something from where they've just come from, like you're no longer free from X Y and Z and therefore you know, you're you're officially dead to that country that you've left? O the birth certificate of the cat has to be like insead of a symbolic they get them back going the other way. Is it a cat that arrives in Spain and just puts up an Instagram story, say, I died someays And nine lies. Cats have nine lives. so you take one of the nine and now this cat's got nine, eight. Oh seven. then it dies twice. Yes.at's got seven. English cats have nine lives, but Spanish cats only seven in proverbs. That's funny. Yes, the Spanish equivalent translates as to have seven lives like cats. And the reason for that is there their high rate of diabetes in cats in Span Thank you very much to all our players. Let's find out what's going on with you, where can people find you. We will start with Ed. I have just finished a tool, but I've got a new tool starting off in September after the end of the fringe. you can just Google orr use any other search en you like or come and find me on any social media at Ed Patrick Comedy and I'll be posting stuff on there Dina. Please come and see me do lots of work and progresses of my new show, which is called Dancing Well Old, just come to my Instagram on the internet at Davina Benty Comedy. Andne Stewart. You find me on Ecosia. org, which of course is the only search site you should be using I would say, go on to Stewartlaws. com sign up to my mailing list because I truly believe that we need to as creators be less reliant on these platforms that are controlled by huge corporations and that the best way for people to follow comedians is to get onto their mailing list so they get a direct email every month or so, giving information on where people are going. So you should do it for Edge, should do it for Divina, should do it for lateral for Tom as well. because that is ultimately better than being reliant on algorithms and you know the whims of an insane billionaire at the top of the pile And if you want to know more about this show, you can do that at lateralcast. com. You can also sign up for the Lateral prodroducers Club or send in your own ideas for questions. We are at Lateralcast, basically everywhere and there are full video episodes every week on Spotify. Thank you very much to Stuart Laws Thank you. Davina Bedlease Ed Patrick Thank you. I've been Tom Scott, and that's been This episode is brought to you by Google Chrome. You think you know a browser, but Gemini and Chrome, that's new. It can help you with practically anything on the web, like restoring a vintage motorcycle from a fifty page restoration block, or finally break down that long article you've had open for weeks. Gemini and Chrome is here for it. 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