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From Episode 344 : AI - The Good, The Bad, and the Ugly - Part 2May 31, 2026

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What you are about to hear is part two of our introduction to AI conversation with Michelle I want to let you know in this episode we're gonna to talk about the uglier sides of AI. And if you missed the first episode, you should definitely go back and listen to it where we define a lot of terms and we talk a little bit more about the nuances of some of the AI that you might be familiar with and some of the things that maybe you didn't even know were AI. These episodes are the first in an ongoing series where we will be tackling the issues of AI and are impending robot overlords, and it is very important that you sort of go along in order so that you don't miss anything and that everything makes sense to you as you listen along with us. If you have any questions, comments, or concerns about AI and you'd like to see us cover these topics Please hit us up you've had experiences with AI and you'd like to tell your story, Please also message us so that we can get you on the show and we can add some more context into our AI conversation Other than that, thank you for being here. Thank you for listening. Make sure you're subscribed to our YouTube channel so you can watch our AI episodes as well. And as always, enjoy this episode So let's get into the ugly of AI. This is big. This is the scary stuff. This is the stuff that makes me worried that makes that's gonna make you wantna vomit. Yeah, it is it's If you're not paying attention, you should be now. is all I have to say. So listen up Listeners So for me, the main thing that it kept coming back to, all these videos and all these clips that you're about to hear, it all comes back to these data centers becausecause with generative AI We've got these big computer systems that have to generate all of this, right? They're fine tuning, they're training. We need a lot of processing data to do that processing data centers look like right now are like humongous computers. Like the stuff that we used to see B back in the day that now we can hold in our hand and be like, oh my gosh, like super compomputers used to be a huge room And now the same computing power they had in those big huge rooms, we now hold in our hands because we've advanced technology. But with data centers, they're massive. Like massive doesn't cover it. We're talking like the size of cities. Two times the size of Manhattan as the Kevin O'Leary proposed one? Where do you even put a data center that big? Like where's there even land Open is not protected, which is big the big thing there. Wh is there even huge vast empty plots of land to even build these data centers that are two and three times the size of the island of Manhattan Where do we even put that? Apparently Utah Yeah, as we start to roll back these regulations and these protections that we have, it opens up these companies to say, well, we can just put it in the desert. We can put it in the Utah desert. We can put it in the Nevada desert. We can put it in California desert. We can put it out here. Anywhere we can get tax breaks. Anywhere you can get a tax break The data centers are training and running these large AI systems and they require massive data centers like we said The facilities consume enormous amounts of electricity and water Cooling And the problem with the water for cooling and the problem with the rolling back of regulations or the not even having regulations at all is that AI data centers can use whatever water they want, whatever water is available to them, even if it's drinking water, even if it's the city's water source and not having to use reclaimed water or desalinated water using drinking water. and that is a problem That's a very big problem In some states, people are being told to take shorter showers and to let their lawns die. And in those same states, some restaurants are no longer giving their customers water with their meals. Miles from these towns where people are being asked to conserve every drop of water, AI data centers are guzzling five million gallons of water per day data center. That's enough water to supply a town of fifty thousand people. There are no federal regulations limiting how much water one data center can use. There are no requirements that they have to use recycled water instead of drinking water. There is no national framework for determining whether a data center should be built in an already water stressed area at all There are I've got some videos that we're going to play here because the research that these people did and I will link all of the videos in the show note so that you can follow along and you can follow those people or you can Read the comments on those videos if you're interested in learning more. It's horrifying. There are some big places that I think most of you guys, if you live in the United States, especially in the Southwest, would have heard of. okay? We've got a data center that's going to decimate Lake Tahoe They're going to put it in Nevada and they're going use the water from Lake Tahoe. And they're telling basically people in Tahoe Like you're going to have to find another energy source because we're taking all of your energy. Figure it out. It's a ski town. It's a casino resort town. Like Lake Tahoe is twenty four seven. You got camping and hiking and all of the fun stuff in the summer And then when it snows, it is a massive ski resort. I have skied there many, many times. I have camped there many, many times. It is a beautiful Beautiful place on the border of California and Nevada. Nearly fifty thousand Lake Tahoe residents are being told to find a new power provider because the grid is being rerouted for AI data centers. Let that sink in. A region that draws up to twenty eight million visitors a year is being forced to scramble for electricity so tech companies can get priority access. NV Energy has supplied most of Lake Tahoe's electricity for decades. Now and says it will stop serving Liberty utilities customers twenty twenty seven. And this isn an isolated incident They're literally saying Figure out another place to buy your power because we're taking what you have for this data center. This data center literally We've got Salt Lake City They want to put a data center out there. nuclear reactors on the Great Salt Lake in the fall one They're mineniscule, just tiny that they o out those gaps when earthquakes happen, they create astronaomical risk was at the point where it's like, look, if you guys are going force these things on us, at least make them like give us the best chance you possibly can to live Let us live instead of blowing us up thirteen nuclear reactors, that's thirteen thousand megawatts of heat on the Great Salt Lake. and it will evaporate and die. And this is in addition to that hyperscalar data center that they approved in Bxelder County. And the bees will die too becausecause people want't uphold systems of power not actually take a look at what was going on. And these data centers create these what they call heat islands because they're so hot, even with all the water cooling that they are increasing the temperature Like six to sixteen degrees depending on how big these data centers are And they're putting them in the desert. the one in Utah The estimate I heard was up to twenty eight degrees Fahrenheit during the night. So like Not quite as much during the day, maybe like six or seven degrees increase. That's enough to kill the wildlife. They' evolved for the climate that they're in And a lot of people in the desert also rely on the cool night to cool their houses at night so that when you wake up in the morning, you don't have to use as much energy for your AC. We do that here to let the cool air in keep the house cool at night so we don't have to run the AC. If you've got a data center that's increasing the temperature by sixteen degrees in Arizona evening that's maybe like seventy five, eighty degrees You've now got nights that are ninety five degrees? What I read was that the change would literally be the difference between the semi arid condition that it currently is to the Sahara I don't know if anybody's ever been to the desert. I live here in the desert. San Diego is not as deserty as other deserts, but you step outside, you feel your eyeballs shrivel up a little bit. It's so hot. It's so dry. You don't sweat. You just feel like The water is just being sucked out of you Imagine adding additional heat onto that. all the time, not just during the day, but at night as well. They want to put one in the Coachella Valley. That's like a mega, mega, mega one. like four mega data centers that are bigger than all the other ones. in the Coachella Valley That's gonna affect palm Springs and it's gonna affect Joshua Tree, twenty nine palms All of that out there All of that desert It's wild. Hi, my name is Elizabeth Humphrees. I'm a resident of India. I was able to obtain some information about the proposed project online What is being proposed, even though there hasn't been a formal application, is four hypperenters. So these are each data centers that are a million square feet. So that is the largest type of data center that can be built. There is also an independent reviewed peer review study that has recently been published about the Kat Islands created by Aent I think we could assume because they're proposing for hyperenters, we'd be on the upper edge of this. So what is in this peer reviewed journal? is that within hypperccenters within a six point two mile radius. So that is one hundred and twenty square miles. That includes my house in Indo that includes all the way down to Thrmal and much of L Canta the average A heat increase within that six mile radius is about seven degrees the high, which again, because we're talking about four hypersensers, just in phase one, they're also planning additional basases. But just in phase one, because we're talking about four hyperscenters, I'd think it's fair to assume we'd be on the higher end of what this study found The highest they found was sixteen degrees increase on average. So that would mean that today Which was one hundred and eight degrees day, That would mean that at the high of that it would have been one hundred and twenty four degrees. The high of July last year was one hundred and nineteen degrees in the city of Fchella. If we had such a data center with its four hypper centers And we were at the upper end of that heat Island, it would have been one hundred and thirty five degrees last July. So that goes to my question in one of the hottest areas in North America How is this even being proposed? H And then also they wantna put one in Corpus Christie. Corpus Christi residents in Texas have been warned that they might be the first major city in America to run dry by twenty twenty seven. And these are all people that are saying, I live in this town. You're gonna dry up our water source. Nobody wants it. You can't take our water away. You're gonna kill our fish. You're going to destroy the lake In Utah, Kevin O'Leary, also known as Mr. Wonderful on Shark Tank, just received an approval for a one hundred billion dollars AI data center in the desert. That facility alone will consume More than double the energy the entire state uses in a year. It's likely going to further drain the already shrinking great Salt Lake, creating toxic dust that harm surrounding communities Save more on what you need to get the job done right. Right now, at Lowe's. 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More like buyers rejoice I guess I'll let myself out. Congratulations. I mean it. Buyers rejoice. Buy your car today on Carbana. Limitations exlusions may apply Sior Sunday return policy at cararbana d If you dry up the great Salt Lake All of that toxic dust is going to go into the air. New dust bowl. And then you're gonna be breathing the toxic dust, a brand new dust bowl Terrifying And please, do remember that the original dust bowl was literally bringing dust from California all the way to the East Coast Right And then we also have Epstein connections which goes back into Peter Teal, which goes back into Palanter, which Like I said, there's going to be a Palanter episode. but there are Epstein file connections to data centers in AI Bigs. Big ones Disgusting And also This Utah data center. Shark tank guy that's going to allegedly basased on what science is telling us is going to dry up the Great Salt Lake Guess who has a good finger in that pie The Mormons Well, of course, the Mormon Church has invested in that. So we've got some cult connections. going on in here as well Yeah, didid you see that one of the clips I sent you was Kevin O'Learary from Shark Tank, who's the one behind this Utah one, and I didn't even know about the LDS connection. So you're going to have to educate me on that. But one of the clips that I had sent over to you was him saying, well, we had unanimous support from the commission of three people. I probably paid. Yeah, it was Tucker Carlson pushing him on it, which is unfortunate. and it's one of those, you know, broken clock situations and it was a really good clip. The majority oft want me to hold my shovel and start digging. And that's basically the debate we're having. How do you know that that the majority They voted for unanimously before the Chinese guys there was a referendum among citizens Some like county board vote. Three to zero. The commissioners of the county said we want three people voted. the people of the county elected officials. That's how you How hard is it for Kevin O'Leary and Amazon and Microsoft and Google to subvert three county commissioners in rural Utah. Why don't you have a referendum? Why don't you let all citizens, all taxpayers, the ones who are paying for your project Th people, how many of them are connected to LDS? How many do you think want you want to guess in Utah? how many of these commissioners are in some way connected to LDS out of three. Probably three. So I got this post that I pulled up and it says it's just some facts about this Stratos Utah data center that Kevin O'Leary is pushing. forty thousand acres bypassing local control Energy tax slashed from six percent point Five percent eighty percent of property tax rebated back to the developer a natural gas plant that could raise Utah's carbon emissions by fifty percent No environmental impact study done at all public comment allowed at the approval vote So they don't give a fuck. what Utahans think, what Salt Lake City residents think. When Utans ask questions, a Canadian billionaire goes on Fox News and calls them Chinese agents. strategy also a cell operating inside of Utah. Gabby Finly said, Gabby, what are you doing? And why who's paying you? Well Hi, hello. It's me Gabby Finlon. What am I doing? Apparently we' reached the part of the StrTA' Data Center journey, where Kevin O'Leary goes on National Fox News to accuse us of being cells for the Chinese Communist Party. Yeah, because at the end of the day, who would want us to stop building our electrical grid? Which adversary would want that? There's only one. It's China. So what I think is happening and I got my guys to go a deep dig into the IP addresses. and here's what we found out. this is fascinating. We found two cells inside of Utah. elevate strategies. Gabby, Finlon, Gabby, what are you doing? And why who's paying you What I'm doing right now is after getting this data. I'm calling out Gabby operating in Utah. So I Kevin, we are elevate strategies. This is Utah. You might not know it because you're from Canada, where we live. before we get into anything too serious, this is the very scary, very intimidating man that is driving us. We are not taking the criticism of anyone who is wearing flip flops and a suit on national television. You know, it's not every day you get called out by first and last name on Fox News by a Canadian billionaire trying to ruin my state. but here we are. Kevin, are you okay But after sitting with this for a moment, we decided to take it as a compliment because first of all, how are these men scared of us Hy M? Hi What are we talking about? I want a forensic auditor who's funding their platforms. Who is it? So these are proxies for the Chinese governmentsment my argument. and if they're not, because I want them to be able to seend their name to Gabby, come out, come out wherever you are. Okay, Kevin, go ahead. mister Wonderful's Nancy Drew littleittle detective agency, haveave at it, brother, because if we were Chinese operatives, we would be the worst operatives in the entire world. Someone alert Beijing that the payment portal to Jackie andize amX bills is somehow broken We run deemocratic campaigns in the state of Utah. If we were in this to be making money, we would be doing literally anything else. and you should know that because your job is to give small business owners advice. Yeah, you'd think that Kevin would understand the hellscape that is late stage capitalism and consumerism that has led to you becoming a terrible, horrible billionaire is trying to ruin our state. But if we're talking about audits, I should be auditing the Stratos project. We should be auditing all politicians that I Do you have property surrounding the Stradow's project? or maybe do you have interests that you were changing the laws before this was created? Hypothetically. We're just saying we should maybe look into people that stand to make hundreds of millions of dollars off this project and let's be so for real and so clear. That is not us. It is not us. But sure, let's do the thing that all men who are scared and have no actual facts do which is accuse women who have a fully formed thought of being the problem. and being Chinese operatives just like me What are we talking? How are we making this video right now? Like it's so un sererious. And they should thank me for this promotion I'm giving them right now. And let's shine a light the transparency on what you're doing because they're also going after the leadership. you tught itself these two sels. Well Kevin, you say that like it's a scandal and it's not because we are damn proud of the fact that we will continue to be shining a light on the corruption and insanity that is going on in this state project but with many others. We will continue to be here doing that work long after you've forgotten about Utah because you don't actually care about what happens to the state. Let's show the people of Utah you actually care about them. We don't need Kevin to teach us to care about Utah because we've been here, we were born here, we work here. We have sacrificed a lot of time onpaid jobs just to try and make this state better We're the ones that actually love this state, and that is why we care about its future and why we care about this data center and what it could do to the future The data centers themselves could be used for state surveillance to punish dissent It's the Hitler Putin Pinochet McCarthy playaybook It's boring, unorriginal, and we can see right through it The people demanding transparency, due process, and local control are the ones defending American democratic tradition O'Leary is the one borrowing from authoritarian playbooks And I also heard something about and again, as we go deeper into AI and these different and we have dedicated episodes to this, then the research, it won't just be like, I think I read it here. I'll actually know where I heard it from But I saw a video that said that AI hasn't even made a profit yet And so all of these data centers are being built on the hoe they can generate enough energy to be profitable. So it's literally a gamble Here's the kicker. The AI industry is not making money. It's losing billions. These massive data centers being built across the country in rapid speed are non profitable. They are gambles by billionaires trying to dominate an industry. that has not even proven it can make money and are using an irreplaceable resource to do it. They are gambling with your drinking water. is finite. You cannot manufacture it. You cannot drill for more of it. Once it's gone? Yes So that is that is something that we're definitely going to dive into because that touches on Something I had original in the original outline for this episode and it would just be too big. My question, how I would pose it is is the anti AI movement focused on the real problem? Because allowing individual users access to chat GPT actually, assuming I know what I'm talking about, I don't have a source for this can get one. It's my understanding that allowing access to these chatbots actually costs these companies money. It buys them legitimacy and cover and what they see as their actual gold mine is enterprise Well, actually, no, that's not true. The entnerprise boom is part of this bubble. It's something that they they've sold so many companies on the idea that they will be able to save so much money and replace so much labor with these enterprise AI agents. That may or may not be true in the future It is a gamble. It's not something that exists already. It's a gamble that companies are taking. So the chat bots not making them any money. The enterprise is like their early investors for their ponzi scheme. They're like the first people they ripped off, right their real gold mine is government and military contracts, pereriod. Like that's what they are intending to use these data centers to power That's what their goal is at the end of the day, in my opinion. And everything else is just like bells and whistles that is not actually profitable to them yet. Do you know this story about how DoorDash wasn't profitable for the first ten years? I feel like I've heard it, but I don't remember. Go ahead and tell me. I am going off memory and we can fact check this of course, but DoorDash is an example of a company that started out at a loss, like operating at a loss on purpose to bring in people and get them addicted to their service. And then once people were fully reliant on Doorash is when they started introducing all of these extra fees and dash passass and all of the extra things and and targeted pricing and dynamic pricing and all of the extra stuff that makes it so expensive now and now they're profitable. But they're Operating, like their business model from the beginning was to plan to operate at a loss for the first, however many years. Very interesting I have a question for you. Have you heard about the black box problem of AI I am familiar with the idea of it. You may have more information in front of you than what I know, but from my understanding, it's basically that even the people in charge, even the developers behind AI and even the companies behind AI, don't have a full understanding of what is happening within the program Yeah. Is that it? Exactly. And it was something that I saw when I was researching this and I saw it come up a couple of times and I was like, I'm going to put this in my notes to ask Michelle Maybe this comes up in a future episode, but essentially the black box problem, like you said, complex deep learning models lack transparency, right? These very deep AI models that are generating and training and fine tuning, they lack transparency. We don't know where they're getting this information from. They're just reaching out into the internet and they're pulling it back and they're saying, I found it and we're like, where? And they're like, I don't know. And so it's impossible for the developers to explain exactly how their AI models are arriving at specific decisions. And that is a problem. And so it was just something I wanted to bring up. Maybe somebody has heard something, maybe somebody has experienced something like that Another thing I want to bring up that we're not going to get into now, but we will get into in the future. And this was really the entire basis of all of what I wanted to do for AI. And this was about a year ago and I reached out and said, Hey, I want to do this. and it was kind of new. It was something that people hadn't really heard too much about. And I was like, maybe I wait And I just kind of pay attention. And when I see more of it, we'll come back to this is AI psychosis. And it was about a year ago I came across this man on social media who was talking about his experience recovering from AI psychosis And I reached out to him and I said, Oh my God, I'm going follow you. I'm interested to learn your story I would love to talk to you in the future. I don't know when, but I would love to talk to you in the future because I feel like this is something that is going to be much bigger is going to come out and now I'm hearing about AI psychosis all over, right? I couldn't afford therapy. so I asked my chat bot and they convinced me to do things that were not good for me, convinced me to believe things, to do things, to go places, whatever it is. And people are having psychotic break episodes based on just these really intense relationships with a robot. And very public ones Yeah, very public ones and reminds me of the movie her. Like Kendra Kendra The Kendra who fell in love with her therapist. right, right, right right Oh of course, it's just alleged that she's under some kind of AI psychosis. You know, Savy did a video about her. We should have Savy come on and talk to us about that. Savy would be great to talk about AI. She's done several videos that address AI, especially in her world of book writing and marketing. Yeah. I also like while we're just very limited touching the topic of AI psychosis. in the meantime before we do drop an episode like that, if anyone is looking for more content that dives really deep into that, I can't recommend enough Kallin Conrad's YouTube channel. Yeah. Kaalin does really deep investigative videos specific to like the real scary dangers of AI. So big trigger warnings, most of them are about like how AI led someone to un alive themselves, that kind of thing. But they're very good, very, very well done. So highly recommend that if you're looking for more in the meantime Yeah. And you know, these are things that I think we will be making episodes on in the future. I would love to have this man come on. He I followed him. he followed me back. He said, off course, I would love to talk to you and I kind of just put it on the back burner because there were other things. And when AI started coming back around, I was like, oh, I need to talk to him. And then I was like, wait Let's do a basic episode first Let's define terms. let's educate Just dip our toes into all of the good, the bad, the ugly, give people a little something to, I don't know, look into Maybe your algorithm starts showing you some things after listening to this and you start going, oh my Godd, it's a lot worse than I thought And then in the future, there'll be episodes that deep dive into those topics as well because I think it's very important to understand this. Also, MLM connection Lots of Huns are using AI. We've already seen the AI generated pyramid schemes that are coming out. and so it's all connected. And the more that we can understand a topic that is so hard to understand The better tools you will have to spot them, avoid them others to spot and avoid them and to you know, move around your life using the minimum of AI that you can because it is, like I said, it's very, very hard to to navigate, right? It's everywhere It's very hard. I believe If you don't want to use AI, there are settings. you can go into your settings and you can uncheck things. I believe AI is kind of like being just integrated. and it's like it's up to you to go, I don't want that. don't I want to opt out of that That's another important thing for you to know that you're being voluntarily opted into things that you might not have opted into when you aged to things Oh yeah, like have you ever synced your reel to music on Instagram Right, that kind of stuff. So you're using AI in a lot of ways that you probably don't know, even if you are super anti AI. And I think it's important to know what is the most impactful stuff so you can avoid that And then you know, like we talked about, there's a couple good things so you don't have to feel super guilty. Make your own decisions always. Make informed personal choices Ryan Reynolds here from MintMobile with a message for everyone paying Big wireless way too much. Please, for the love of everything good in this world, stop. With Mint, you can get premium wireless for just fifteen dollars a month. Of course, if you enjoy overpaying, no judgments, but that's weird Okay, one judgment Anyway, give it a try at mintmobile d. com slash switch Upfront payment of forty dollars for three month plan equivalent to fifteen dollars per month required, intro rate first three months only, then full price plan options available tax and fees extra. Sful terms at Mintmbile dot com And if you post an AI picture of you doing something ridiculous, you might get called out in the comments. and there are going to be people like us saying, hey, this probably wasn't the best idea and use of your time. And you have to understand that there's a reason behind that, right? There's a reason behind people trying to educate you. It's not always friendly. We're trying to make it friendly to say, hey, you don't need to dress up in your candy canane outfit and put a new Facebook profile or you know, just ridiculous things, just really absolutely ridiculous things. And I wanted to make this episode because we're going to be diving into so much want have a reference point to say start here. Foundation. Yeah. Learn this. This episode is gonna to be heavy. Make sure you go back and listen to episode, what is this three hundred forty three or something and figure it out. And then come back to this episode a little bit more informed and it makes a little more sense. we can follow along. It's like you have to take algebra before you take calculus, You know what I mean It's that sort of thing. L we're building on these foundational ideas. And if you miss a class and you don't know where you are, you're going to be very confused. So this episode is the algebra of AI, and you kind of just need to take it first Yeah Yeah And the great news is you all get an A. All of you. Congrats. It was a blanket A. It was just a discussion. You guys are now all much more willfully informed about the good, the bad and the ugly And hey, if this episode made you go, oh my God, this reminded me of this, or I had an episode about this or you need to look at this or you need to read this or make sure you're following this person. L reach out to us becausecause Michelle and I are going to be making a lot of episodes about this. The more that we learn, the more we're like, oh my God, did you see this? Dive in Dive into this an farm, go down, go left and then go right 's there's so much. And so Michelle will be around a lot talking about AI, somebody who understands a little bit more than me But again, if you have your own AI story, I would also love to hear from you. Do you wna do some AI related rapid fire questions? Oh I didn't prepare anything. No, let me ask you. Oh, you're gonna ask me. Okaykay, okay. Yeah. Okay, okay. I will also say that this program we're currently using to record this podcast episode has AI features that I cannot opt out of So I also use it in this because it's part of my work and I can't opt out of it does make creating clips and creating bumpers and preview, episode previews and things like that so much easier. So I'm able to post it on social media so you guys can see it, so you can share it etceter, et cetera. kind of is all encompassing. but yeah So that I just want to be transparent with my AI usage. It's minimal, but there is some. That's even like to go back to like the definition of terms, that's why it's important to understand like the differences between you know generative AI and other things because like for editing clips using AI to edit clips That is that's utilizing machine learning but it's not generating new content. Right. It's creating new content from my content. It's not pulling from others or stealing or know, IP theft or anything like that. It is my content and it is just creating clips Yeah, and that can be kind of a gray area too, I guess, because the patterns that it's using to make those decisions are patterns that come from having been trained on other podcasts. and their success, right So there is a gray area there too. That's true. So when it comes to IP, it's not just generative AI where you can get into IP issues. You are benefiting from the work of other, you know, past podcasters and their success. So that's one way to look at it. you know, you just have to look at it with a critical eye and don't be immediately you know black and white judgmental of this or that or whatever. like just take everything critically honestly. So okay After all this, what is one word that for you sums up AI Y feelings on AI Dangerous Prety good one. It's fun, but dangerous and I think dangerous is the in like the word cloud for me of all the words, I think dangerous is the biggest one Yeah. Yeah. let's see. Se secondcond question. What is the scariest thing to you about AI? I think the environmental impact as somebody who looves the desert, loves the mountains, loves the ocean loves animals and wants to see all of those places again and again and again the environmental impact for me is really, really scary and concerning I don't want the great Salt Lake to to dry up. I don't want Lake Tahoe to dry up. I want to go see these things and Eperience them many times before my time on this planet is over. Yeah, I've never been to any of those places and I would like to see them once and for them to be around justust the disappearance of these sites isn't you know isn't wouldn't happen in a vacuum like it would have massive effects on the climate of the entire world. Absolutely. Yes, Yes, I couldn't agree more. I think that's the scariest thing to me too. And okay, finally, what about All of this AI innovation makes you are you the most hopeful about? You know, as a child who grew up watching the Jetsons Little like automated tasks you know, like Hey, sorry set a timer or help me create

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