Looking Ahead to Next Season

This is the locked on podcast Network celebrating ten years of your team We day It's been a huge offseason for Sean Miller and the Texas Longhorns setting up what should be a phenomenal year two of the Miller era in Austin. You are locked on college basketball partart of the locked on podcast Network. Your team every day. Hey there, what's up? Welcome into the Locked onn College Basketball podcast. I'm your host, Isaac Shade. Great to be together todayod. We are joined by the man, Mis. Brad Kellner, the host of Locked onn Longhorns, which is a special moment for me because my dear wife, Maggie is a Longhorn and so I'm always in on some UT stuff Let's go. let's get it. horns up, not the other way you silly Oklahoma fans All right, here's where we're headed today, Brad. some off season talkks Man, it it has been a wild off season for the Longhorns, all sorts of roster movement, which was needed because there was all sorts of guys that left So we're going to talk about that. We'll talk about expectations in year two of the Sean Miller era. We're going to look at look back at a year one review because I feel like things got off to a great start, great foundation. We're doing all that today. Also quickly, behind the scenes Brad and I are recording this like two weeks before you're actually hearing it because I'm in Europe right now as you're listening to or watching this and Brad was kind enough to join me to do a little pre record. So if there's any sort of Texas news that's come out in the last week or two that we don't talk about, we're not idiots. It's just that previous previous Brad and Isaac are recording this Kellererman, I'm excited to do it. Welcome into the locked on Longghorns fans as well. Welcome into the national audience. Let's get after it. Dude, Keller The horns have been wildly busy this offseason, but they needed to because here's who's gone unless I've missed somebody. Dalen Swain, who was drafted sometime between when we're talking and when this is coming out. Jordan Pope, Kendall Weaver, Tremond, Mark, Kam Heidi, Simeon Welchter, Nick Cody all gone. doe thats seven of the top eight scores And so My man, Sean Miller went and got busy in the portal tellell us about it He did. Well, first of all, I wish I was joining you in Europe, but this is a nice consolation prize joining you on this show, Isaac. But yeah, crazy off season for Texas. You mentioned seven of the top eight from last year are gone and eleven players total are gone from last year's team. So it's about as much roster turnover as you could possibly have Texas invested heavily in their off season. and I think a run to the sweet sixteen will do that, right? We'll get into this later in the year and review. But if Texas bows out in the first Forida NC state then I'm not as giddy about Texas basketball in year two of the Seaan Miller era as I am right now. and we're probably talking. I don't even know if you would have reached out to talk to me because Texas probably isn't as relevant as as they are going to be in the upcoming twenty twenty six, twenty twenty seven season. But yeah, they hit the portal hard, one of the top classes in the country, starting with Isaiah Johnson coming in from Colorado who had a tremendous freshman season, averaging seventeen points per game. I think and I'm supposed to be an SEC guy, but still of love for the bigig twelve from Texas his time there. Big twelve the toughest conference in the sport And you average seventeen points per game when you're the best player on an average Colorado team and everyone's like game planning to try to slow you down. That's a big deal. Texas didn't really have a true point guard. and I know Isaiah Johnson still has some work to do as a facilitator, but getting that guy as a ball dominant player. that was a huge pickup. And then going back to the big twelve David punch coming in from TCU That guy had a tremendous season. one of the better defensive players in college basketball as well. notot huge six foot seven, six foot eight, but averaged fourteen points per game, seven rebounds and had more blocks than anybody on Texas this past year. So it gives you a nice P next to Madaspo and Titus. and then you look at some of the other pickups with Elijah Freeman, Mikey Lewis and Amari Evans. Three guys who fill different roles. You know, Sean Miller Isaac talked about wanting to get size and wanting to be more versatile as a team in year two than Texas was in year one. And I think with all five of those portal pickups, he accomplished both of those goals Absolutely like Isaiah Johnon, I know you talked about it, but Colorado being off the radar. They weren't very good last year. A couple years ago, they were really good under Tad Boyle last year not, but for those who didn't see Isaiah Johnson He is an absolute dude. We always see guys take this big sophomore leap. I cannot wait to see what he does in Austin But man that that David punch vocat titus front court I think is going to be lethal because I love kind of how they complement each other in different ways, Brad. And I'm very excited to see what it was. I'm sure a lot of people got a taste of David Punch in the post season last year And so you look at all those transfers and that's exciting. You get outside of Mikey Lewis from Stt Mary's all dudes from high major schools, but Stt Mary's was essentially that anyway even before U now losing their head coach down to Arizona state. Randy Bennett there heading down. That'll be great. But it's not just this transfer portal class like it's balanced with five incoming freshmen headlined by mr. Austin excuse me, Austin Goozby. I'm very excited about him. Yeah, yeah, we are too. Austin Gooseby, the brother of Trevor Gooseby's Texas is starting left tackle Lou' an all American last year. He's a stud and ye, Aust Gooseby obviously help Sean Miller that he's got that tie to the university already, but a McDonald's All American, one of the top twenty recruits in this class of twenty twenty six. You know, he's got a chance to start because Texas did so much in the portal. Maybe Austin Gooseby is a sixth man But he is going to have a big time role, a tremendous athlete, a guy with a great feel for the game, a very high basketball IQ. And yeah, I'm excited to see what he's going to do in his first year. And then Bu Ogden and Austin Kid who's the son of Chris A Ogden, who's an assistant coach at Texas. He's a sharpshooter as is Joe Sterling coming in from the state of California. So You got a nice mix of talented pieces there. Again, with all the experience that Texas brought in from the portal and then modus focotitis coming back Probably safe to assume that you know those sophomores and juniors are going to get the bulk of the minutes, especially early on. But man, there's going to be roles for Austin Gooseby and if Ougden or Sterling can show the ability to knock down some threes, that obviously helps any offense. So they've got a chance to carve out some minutes here in their first seasons in Austin You think that cooach Miller went and just had a nice like Benjamin handshake for Sark after getting goozby I think there's a good chance, right? And I think it kind of worked both ways because Trevor Gooseby was draft eligible. after the twenty twenty five college football season and I think it would have been a pretty high pick if he went pro Look NIL obviously helps a lot to one hundred percent was a great year Goozby could be like a top half of the first round pick in the NFL next year. But yeah, I think it worked both ways, but definitely the fact that older brother was here gave Texas a much better chance of getting younger brother Austin as well I Are there any other talented Goosebys maybe playing baseball or something? Good grief. No kidding. Yeah, we'll take them. An anybody named Gooseby you wants to play in Austin, especially if you're related to those two. So yeah. now the excitement is real for this team and you know, there's like basketball as much as it pains me because I'm such a college basketball nut. It's kind of third fiddle around here to football and baseball, but again, the run they went on last year and obviously the investment into this program this off season just felt like Isaac, Texas hasn't invested as much in basketball as much as they have in other sports. and obviously it helps so much to invest in your program now in the NIL era of college sports. So to realistically be a contender, you got to spend a little bit. I don't think Texas was quite doing that under Rodney Terry. I think they're starting to do that a heck of a lot more under Sean Miller Well, you made my segue for me, Brad. Why do you think that is because you said it along with probably Indiana and Louisville. Texas is probably one of the three biggest spenders this offseason. Do you think that like is it part of what Sean Miller said coming in or in his contract of like, hey, I'll come But like, We're spending money, likeike why do you think Texas is now like, I, we're going to invest in what we're doing inside the Moodie center as well Yeah, now they can sell results, right? Like anyone can sell hope. I know there's like that honeymoon period with any new coach in any sport, especially at a place like Texas is, Yeahah, he's the one. He's going to solve all of our problems. That's great, but proof of concept is a real thing And that's an important thing with all this donor fatigue going on out there. It's you'd like to see that okay, my money iss going to be spent well and I trust the guy that I'm giving my money to. And you know, Texas ended the season on a very low note. They really struggled down the stretch in the regular season. They lost their first SEC tournament game to old Miss and obviously they had to sweat it out on selection Sunday If the Lghorns don't make the tournament, we're not talking about this. and if the Longhorns don't get past the first four against NC state, you know, we're not talking about all this financial investment into Texas basketball. But obviously they get in, they beat NC state, they pull off back to back up setets against BYU and GzZaga and they lose on a buzzer beatater tip in to Purdue and the officials garbage I'm still not over it. but obviously you make the sweet sixteen in year one. that's going to get people bought in. That's going to galvanize the program a little bit. And again, now there's that proof of concept that we're not just hoping Sean Miller knows what he's doing. We kind of know he knows what he's doing Well, and Kellner, once again, you've made my segue for me. I just I must have given you that same Benjamin handshake before the show started. No that mine, I'm only Alexander Hamilton level. mines only a ten. That's all I can afford. U But look I want to ask Brad his grade of the first year of the Sean Miller era in Austin as we look back more at year one, see where the Longhorns can improve, see what they can build upon all that coming up here in just a second Right after I tell you about Fandu, the biggest stage in world soccer is here and every match. feeleels like it has the potential for a memorable moment. One goal can completely change the energy of a game, it can shift momentum and alter the outcome. in an instant. That's what makes tournament soccer so exciting from the opening whistle all the way to the final kick. 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The regular season is probably a B grade and the NCAA tournament is an a plus grade. So I guess the average of that is somewhere near a minus. But that's what I would give it. Look, tough situation for any coach, any timee there's a new coach, you got a ton of roster turnover and attrition and it's It's hard when you don't have a full recruiting cycle and a full off season to get the exact roster that you want in year one. So Shaw Miller, you know his first Oder of business was convincing Trond Mark to stay, convincing Jordan Pope to stay, convincing Kendall Weaver to stay. I mean, there's only like four or five scholarship players coming back last year. And obviously in the era of the portal, you're not sure those guys are actually coming back. So making sure those dudes wanted to stick around versus going somewhere else. So it wasn't a total start from scratch That was big bringing over Dallen Swayain from Xavier who ended up leading the Longhorns in pretty much every statistical category. That was a huge recruiting win out of the portal for Texas. But still, despite that, like there was a lot of new pieces, a lot of all right, let's just hope it works And it clearly took some time for Texas to get it together. But making the tournament in the SEC is no small feat. So for that it's a be and then obviously you make it to the second weekend. Texas hadn't been there since twenty twenty three. They've only been twice to the Seet sixteen since two thousand eight, which is crazy to think about. So to get there again is an elevenh seat and pull off some upsets to get some really, really good teams and then Purdue who was the preseason number one team in the country last year all the way down to the wire a lot to be proud of. And and the reality is Isaac you and I are guys like We care about college basketball in June. We care about it in November when the season starts We know the reality is Your legacy and success in this sport is determined by what you do in March So the fact that Texas was able to make it to the Seite sixteen that almost offsets all of the roller coaster ride from the regular season and it makes it an A minus year one for the head coach at Texas. In the next segment, we're going to talk about expectations I think part of what you just set up there, I think there is an expectations question in this one too, Brad, because We see this often, whether it's a player that goes on a heater in March or whether it's a team that goes on a heater in March. sometometimes that can set up unrealistic expectations for the next season. Do you have any concern about that Yeah, I mean, I don't know. it depends on what people are saying, right? Like if you're saying, well yeah, I expect to get to the final four or like, well, we made the sweet sixteen in year one. So naturally we expect to be in the elite eight or better in year two. like that That's not how college basketball works, right? I mean, it's even the Dues, the Kansases, the Carolinas of the world. I know that's your squad You just can't expect that to happen. That's not how this tournament happens. So I don't know. I mean I'd caution people to maybe temper their expectations a little bit, but I do think Texas is going to be a preseason top fifteen team. So expecting them to at least be in the top twenty five for the majority of the season. I mean, they they shouldn't be, I know maybe I'm putting the cart before the horse here, but there should not be a team in the first four discussion I had this slogan last year. It didn't work because of the way Texas stumbled down the stretch Break up with the bubble Break up with it feels like every b bre here. Yes Bre up with a bow. It's a hashtag, put it on a shirt, a hat, whatever. Texas way too often in recent years has been a bubble team where you're sweating things out on selection Sunday. I mean two years in a row, they've been in the first four. Like literally you go into the bracket reveal show and you're like, are we going to be in? A we out? What's the deal? So you'd like to be much safer in the NCAA tournament And yeah that should be the expectation. That should be the floor of the expectation for Texas fans. Well and to your point a little bit ago, Brad, it that's the weird thing about this sport. is because of the one off weird nature of the NCAA tournament, an entire phenomenal regular season can be undone in a lot of people's eyes with a first or second round or first four exit or first twenty four exit now. Thanks for the dumb expansion Or vice versa, in Texas' case last year, a topsy turvy up and down regular season can can be remembered a little more fondly because of a deeper than expected. runun and let's talk about that topsy tviness. oververall, Texas last year finishes twenty one, fifteen nine and nine in SEC play a little bit of up and down in non conon play nine and four, But to be fair, three of those four losses were Duke, Yukon and Virginia. I mean, my goodness and Arizona state the other. That's not like a sneezer, a snoozer. Keller like where I'm at is It felt like SEC playay Really, as I looked back on it, it feels like three different segments SEC season where it started three and five reeled off five in a row to get to eight and five and then as you said, lost four or five down the stretch to feelld nine and nine Like as you look back on that, what kind of lead and down nature of it They couldn't defend Isaac. I mean, they couldn't offend you or me in a phone booth at times last year. And it's so different from what Texas basketball fans are used to because you know, go back to Rick I to go all the way back to Tommy Pinders for like the last time Texas has had an offensive minded head coach. you know, Rick Barnes defense first. shock of smart defense first Rodney Terry, I'm not quite sure what he was. Chris Beard defense first. So like all of those guys. Texas played really good defense under those coaches. The problem was they just didn't score enough Well last year You know, Sean Miller Texas had one of the most efficient offenses in college basketball. They were top ten in Ken pom and offensive efficiency for like the entire season. But defensively, they were outside of the top one hundred until the NCAA tournament got here and they're like, well, the only way we're going to win in March is if we get a couple of stops every once in a while. So that's it. I mean, they could score with just about anybody in America But when they were bad, when they were struggling, losing four or five down the stretch, it was because they forget key stops. they couldn't get any stops. And yeah, that's something that you could tell based on Sean Miller's portal pickups, looking for more size, looking for more athleticism, looking for more guys you can keep players in front of them. Texas didn't have enough of that last year. So long winded answer. Yeah when they were good, they were getting some stops. when they were bad, it was shootouts and they just they couldn't always keep up And you mix all that in with that great context you gave at the beginning of this segment, just talking about getting in and getting the roster put together and you're just trying to do the best you can there in year one to retain guys as you said to get other guys like Vo Titus coming over from FAU. all of that. And so My last question before we look ahead to expectations for this year, obviously We saw how things kind of sputtered with Rodney Terry at the time after after everything with Coach Beard and him getting the interim job essentially with that great run essentially forced Texas' hands to hire him, which at the right time, I thought was the right decision U But then it just never kind of was able to maintain that Sean Miller comes in obviously his own checkered past, which maybe wouldn't be so checkered in this era and it wouldn't even matter And so I'm so glad that he's back at this high division one level. He's a phenomenal basketball coach. My question, Brad Is Sean Miller the right man to be leading the Longhorns right now and into the future? Yeah, I think so. And it's funny, Isaac. I don't know how many people outside of Austin or people who keep up with Texas basketball know this, but Texas and Xavier played each other in the sweet sixteen in the year. Rodney Terry was the interom and went on that run. and the Longhorns beat the brakes off Xavier to go to the elite eight I've been told that if Texas lost that game, Sean Miller would have been hired as the Texas basketball coach right then and there. So Chriso Cante, the athletics director in Austin I was had the minest touch when it comes to hires. it feels like. That was his guy and it's been his guy for a long time. So he's ride or die with Seawn Miller has been for a while obviously, Texas couldn't hire Seaan Miller after that. It's like we just beat this guy with this guy. Why are we hiring that guy? But he's had his eye on him for a long time. And again Miller's got a long track record. I know he's never been to a final four. That's obviously the box he needs to check and Texas hasn't been there since two thousand three. So we're hoping that gets cleaned up. But He wins a lot of games in the NCAA tournament. He recruits really well. Look at what he did at Arizona. They were always in contention. So the last time he's had a high major job, he was coaching with the best of them. So I love the hire at the time. I think I was higher on it than most Texas fans when it happened. And again, you make the swek sixteen and year one. That's got a lot of people around here bought into him being the right guy Oh man, let's get the horns back. I can't believe that's been over twenty years since that that special run to that final four. I remember that Very well that man, that head coach is now in another shade of orange with a big capapital T on it as well. All right. So Brad and I do want to look ahead to expectations for the twenty six twenty seven season. We know a few nonc games. as we've talked about Mas Vokia Titus is back and holy cow. what a front court tandem. He could pare How is this season going to play out? What are expectations? ceiling floor, all that coming up here in just a second We're going to look ahead now to the twenty six twenty seven season for the Longhorns is Brad. Now we're talking about earlier, the first full off season for Sean Miller as the head coach of Texas trying to get in some more of his guys in terms of returners in terms of high level returners that contributed last year is just modest voc and titus. But oh my, if you're going to get somebody back What a guy to get back. And Brad, that's where I want to start kind of jump do you think Voc Titis is able to take this year, especially now with having David punch alongside him in the front court got it. I mean, if he makes half the jump he made from his freshman to his sophomore year from his sophomore to his junior year, then he's going to be one of the best players in the country. I mean, he he was a stud a season to go, you know, he's he's a bit of a polarizing player, not a great athlete gets into foul trouble at times Uh, you know, isn't doesn't have the most versatile game in college basketball, but Just a guy that you can trust to get you a bucket or get to the free throw line when you absolutely need him to. So he's got to get better at defending without falling He's it's funny. He was a very solid free throw shooter in the regular season, but in the tournament. he just must have got the yips or something. He lost the ability to shoot him at the line. So he's got to get a little more consistent there. But you know we're talking about a player who in his first year of major college basketball after coming in Florida Atlantic averagage sixteen points and seven rebounds a game and was one of the most consistent players on this team and one of the more consistent big men in the SEC as well. So Yeah, excited. The hope is he takes another step And the fact that he does have a running mate didn' Texas didn't have a second big man last year as somebody with David Punch, who can help alleviate some of the pressure and also be a better defender two than anything Texas had at the four. this past season. I think that's going to make life easier and hopefully that that helps them take that step that you're talking about to Brad's point just to put some numbers on it. Voca Titus led the SEC in free throw attempts last year, but he also led the SEC in personal fouls committed last year. So both sides of that same coin. But let's not forget how great he is when like we're actually in play led the SEC also in field goal percentage last year and so you got A lot of encouraging signs there and punch is going to help out in a big way, even though he's a little bit undersized as Brad said earlier. he plays bigger than that six seven is that David Punch is So Brad, as we start to look, we don't have the full nonc schedule out, notot much really anything of the SEC, but we do know Texas is going to be in the Rady Children's invitational out in San Diego on Thanksgiving Day Black Friday. Clendar, That sounds like a good trip you should maybe be taking Yeah, you know, unfortunate unfortunately I guess unfortunately for my basketball fanom, you know, Texas plays a team called Texas A and M and football on Black Friday every year. So that's u G go ahead and do that. Yeah that's going to occupy a little more of my time. Oviously I'll be watching on TV, but Yeah, know that that one all miss unfortunately last year they were in now way around Thanksgiving That would have been a great trip to This year San Diego, one of these years maybe maybe they'll play at a different week to where I could actually go, you know Yeah, that wouldd be incredly. But yes, you football calls and got to go un gig some some ags there and so Um Brad. as we record, I don't believe we have the um teams set for that event, right Yeah. I don't think we do Yeah, Isaac. But we do know a couple of other things SCC ACC challenge matchups came out a week or so ago as we record this. Horns will be at Louisville Tuesday, december first. As we mentioned earlier, another one of the teams that were big spenders again this off season. Louisville just keeps dropping bags in the offseason. they did it last year and then hosting Memphis in the Moody center on Wednesday, december sixteenth. I'm excited for both of those matchups, Keller. Yeah. Yeah, and I like these big Marquee non confference games too. I mean they're great opportunities to test your medal and show what you're all about. And you know, last year, Texas played some great teams in the non con. They open up the year against Duke. You mentioned it. They played Yukon and Virginia, some very high seated teams in the NCAA tournament when the year was all said and done. They didn't play enough of those middle teams Right. Now, I think Louville is going to be great. Memphis always has talent, but it was like they either played somebody elite or played somebody terrible that had no business being on the same court as Texas. So I do hope there's a few more of those sort of middle tier Q two Q three kind of games on the slate this year for Texas because that teams that can actually give you something, make you work a little bit, but you know you don't want to be playing a quadrant one team every single now. So because they'll all the There'll be all the cQ ones you can handle in SEC play and exactly's like It gives you a little bit of a leeway there in nonc Brad. I want to ask you here in a second how you ultimately see the playing out the season playing out. Will it be more consistent? But I love and maybe you've thought some about this this off season because I know I always end with teams. whoo would be your starting five for the longonghorns if the season were to start right now Yeah, that's that's a great question.. I think Isaiah Johnson is definitely your starting point guard. I'm curious. Mikey Lewis they brought in. We haven't talked about him yet, but first team all West Coast confference player at S. Mary's last year. It was kind of like the last pickup for Texas in the portal. I don't think enough people are talking about him, but I think there's your starting back or. You really could You know, have four of the five transfers that you brought in as four of your starting five. So I would say Elijah Freeman probably your three super long athletic wing coming in from Auburn That guy might have more NBA draft potential than anybody on the roster right now. That dude is an athletic freak, great two way player. He gets a little bit more consistent, especially with his outside shot and he could be one of the tougher guards in the sport punch at the four and Mus fooccusitus your one returnney as your five. So that's that's probably what it will be in game one again, Austin Gooseby, the McDonald's Dull American freshman. Maybe he's ahead of Mikey Lewis if Texas wants to play a little smaller, maybe they bring Elijah Freeman off the bench. They're going to have some options with their roster, but If I had to putook money on it Now with our friends at Fanuual, I would say yeah, those those four transfers that I mentioned first and then modest at the five That's what I've been looking at too because it feels like. punch and vocatitis are the like checket right now go ahead. It's mid June, whatever and and Johnson at the one, but it's really at the two and three with those three other guys you talked about there where and some of that might just be how ready is Gooseb be as a freshman and I always love situations like this where you have an Uber talented young man there's not the pressure on him to have to be the man when you've got these other very capable guys in Elijah Freeman and in Um, o gosh, in I'm losing my in Mikey Lewis. Thank you. his name was completely leaving my head. And so if Gooseeby's ready to go and he outplays those guys, Sean Miller will have him in. But if if not he needs a little time, cool because you got those two guys ahead of him with that experience. So that's really good. So Brad, we talked about the up and down roller coaster of year one in the regular season. Obviously the nice punctuation there in the NCAA tournament. Do you ultimately see this year being a more consistent ride into March? Yeah, I definitely do. I definitely do. And you look at these way too early preseason rankings and most of them have Texas somewhere in the top fifteen. Usually in that eleven to fifteen range someome of them kind of creeping into the top ten, the back half of the top ten, but Yeah. I mean, I expect Texas to be preseason top twenty five and I expect them to stay there for the majority of the year. So This boring injuries knock on wood. This will be a team that For the first time in a while is not having to sweat out selection Sunday. Yeah, fun fun anything I'm not on all the wood I can find. Exactly. This should be a team that is pretty safely in the tournam. I'm not saying a number one or a two seat, although that would be great. I think in the best case scenario, that's where you are but somewhere maybe in that three to six range where it's like, all right, you know you're in you feel like if a couple of things go your way and you get some good matchups in the bracket, then you've got a shot to make a deep run in March. So That's a that's kind of where I'm at for this team. Yes, I do expect it to be a more consistent regular season than what we had Last year Great stuff. C't wait to talk to Brad again later this summer, early into the fall, once SEC schedules are released, the full nonc is out. We start to see how this is going to take shape more going to be a blast. If you don't already follow both our shows, make sure you go follow Brad and locked on Longhorns anywhere you get podcasts and of course on YouTube as well. 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