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Let's check in and see if our big boy was right The US attacking Iran, Iran now retaliating A dangerous escalation in the war that's now on day one hundred two. Oh, so we weren't two or three days away from a deal at all. I haven't been this shocked since the time I asked the cast of Real Housewives of Rhode Island to come to my nephew's recital as they promise to sit quietly and not get drunk and call each other whores O Thursday, President Trump called into Fox and friendriends to discuss the latest strikes. And they're getting decimated, just decimated. and they're dying to make a deal. They want to make a deal so badly You know, you read the New York Times and you read the Wall Street Journal, which is so fake I mean, I know you guys own it, but it's a real piece of garbage Sometimes he's funny. What are you gonna do? Trump talks about Iran the way your delusional friend talks about her nonexistent relationship. So how are things going with Jeff? He's obsessed with me and said he cannot wait to hang out after he gets the awward season The president went on to say this. Not not hitting him hard enough. We dropped two hundred fifty million dollars worth of bombs on him last night. You know, the whole thing is crazy But and they're and they're really in in submission They just don't know it yet two hundred fifty million dollars bomb. What did he drop on Iran? The Mandalorian and Grogp Speaking of not working, new Labor Department data released Wednesday found that inflation hit a three year high of four point two percent. Do you miss me yet? said Joe Biden, his robe wide open. , however, isn't wored What you cancern mr. President about the latest inflation number which came out this morning. Could that be a? No, I love it the numberss right. I love that inflation. So he runs to stop inflation, then personally causes prices to spike through tariffs of the war Then he says he loves inflation. Like if you insisted on replacing your own septic tank instead of hiring professionals and then telling everyone in your life that you actually love the smell of raw sewage Trump also revealed there was a secret mission No, I can say it now Something you didn't know. you know, we've been taken out Millions of barrels of oil Nobody knows it. You know who doesn't know about it Iran until right now President, That was a dream you had at the N next game This is of course, not true. You can't secretly move oil tankers through the Strait of Hormuz because they're giant fucking oil tankers that you can see from the shoreline. Trump later posted that this daring heist was successful because quote, the United States of America controls the Strait of Hormuz, not Iran, their military is defeated and their economy is lost. It's over for Iran Say it again, but slower, said Lindsey Graham, soaked head to toe in crude oil Speaking of terrible mental images, journalists Maggie Habermman and Jonathan Swan published an excerpt from their upcoming book detailing the Trump White House's internal deliberations over the Epstein files last summer. According to the report JD Vance, Cash Patell,puty Attorney General Todd Blche, comedian Burt Kryischher for some reason, Trump's Chief of staff Suusie Wiles convened in the White House situation room to strategize a response There was no Bur Cryisher. He was not there. just saying If you're worried if you like Burke Kreischer, he wasn't in the secret White House deliberations over the Epstein files, I made that up. Trump refused to entertain any plan to release the files. saidid Trump, We just have to treat this story like a teenage girl and wait six months for it to get old and boring Everybody okay over there? All right According to the excerpt in The Times, Vance suggested that Tucker Carlson Interview Gelaine Maxwell in prison It's an amazing idea. I love it. I am furious it didn't happen. This is like when you find out that we almost had a superman with Nicholas Cage. It wouldn't have been good It would have been a disaster, but it should still exist. Dan Bonjino, who was then FBI deputy director, tore into A attttorney General Pam Bondi over the fiasco, saying, You fuck this thing up from the start, that dumb fucking charade with the Epstein files, that they're on my desk nonsense. Bonjino told the White House that Bondi needed to resign and call the Epstein saga Trump's Iran contontra This was, of course, last year before Iran became Trump's Iran countra. In the report's creepiest passage during yet another meeting in the White House situation room, a senior aide described an unsealed civil suit which described an accuser's allegation about and I am sorry Trump aggressively flicking and sucking a young woman's nipples until they looked incredibly painful The meeting abruptly ended because everyone puked and shat and died In other disgusting littleittle worm news, Texas has seen an outbreak of disgusting little worms. Yes, screw worms eradicated in this country since the nineteen sixties are back But don't let the name scare you. So called screwworms are actually nothing more than flesh eating bugs that lay eggs in open wounds and in the eyes, ears, nose, mouth, or genitals, hatching into parasitic maggots that burrow into the living tissue of livestock, pets, and human beings S RF K Junior. Yum Last year, Doge cut funding for screwworm monitoring programs and over one thousand employees from USDA's Animal and Plant Health Inspection serervice. Trump administration also lifted a suspension of Mexican cattle imports, allowing livestock into the country without monitoring that had been in place. The Trump administration is, of course, blaming Joe Biden and immigrant.ere's Ariculture Secretary Brooke Rollins Now this does trace back to the last administration and the open border policy and the movement of millions of people and their animals up from South America through Central America. So let's just understand what she's suggesting here. These dastardly woke screworms snuck into the country under Joe Biden And then they just hid waiting almost two years to start attacking cattle in order to make Trump look bad. Texas agricultural Commissioner It So so fucking stupid He's been president I'm sorry, but he's been president for two years They're bugs. We all have dealt with bugs. If you have bugs, you don't say, godamnit, that gardener three years ago really fucked up We all know how fucking bugs work. It's quick with bugs. Texas aggricultural Commissioner, Sid Miller, slammed the administration for moving too slowly and said that you can look for higher beef prices because of the failure of the USDA to control this pest Be I tell you if Sid Miller is a Democrat or a Republican I'm going to show you a picture of this man and you'll guess What do we think Do we think he voted for Kamala or Trump It' So hard to know. Imagine if this were your dad and you had to tell him you were gay and that you wanted to borrow his fabulous vest Now in response, Brooke Rowllins slammed Miller, who is a Republican and called him, quote, an unserious ag commissioner with just a few months left Because he, like all of us, will soon be food for the screworms Now, as of this recording, there are seven confirmed screworm cases in the US, including one dog in New Mexico Thanks for stepping in to kill that dog infected with screworm, Kristy Noome said Sid Christy, the dog had what no But not to worry, Iowa Senator Chuck Grassley is on the case. Here he is questioning Rollins on Wednesday. couple of months. Maybe three months since I talked to you about vaccination for screwws. You talked about it and you were going to look into it So what's the chances of uh use of vaccination to get us beyond it. Right. So the screwworm is a flesh eating pest and not a virus or a disease Chuck We don't have vaccines for things you can hold in your hand. You represent a farm state. vaccine for bugs, that's a hammer. Andmphesides, we're not going to solve this thing by giving cows autism Oh. On Thursday, Rollins unveiled her new plan. Department of Homeland Security, we talked yesterday about using their drones and perhaps through very quick innovation, having an artificial intelligence piece of this, where you put AI on the drones that they can fly across all of our millions of acres of wildlife this count in this state When reached for comment, the AI drone said You're right to push back. Those weren't Yorkshire pigs with screworm. That was a bucky's parking lot after a Texas A and M game. My apologies for the confusion. If you'd like, I can generate a list of local funeral homes . Imagine it's twenty twenty four, Brat summer. You suddenly find yourself transported to twenty twenty six and you find out that the Trump administration is planning to deploy AI drones to fight the flesh eating worms, then whoosh, you're back in twenty twenty four Doid you tell anyone or did you just kill yourself You made your decision, and in Maine, they made theirs. Graham Platner won the Democratic primary and addressed the controversy surrounding his candidacy If you believe as I do That we can change our politics and change our country then you must also believe that people can change The reason I believe that is because I have lived it And the reason that I have lived it is because of my wife Which is why I am proud to reveal my new tattoo, my beautiful wife doing a Heil Hitler in tasteful Blackface Fladder also previewed his attacks against Susan Collins. She has become just as spineless and corrupt as the establishment she now serves. She got elected Promising to protect Roe versus Wade Oly to turn around and put on a justice, put a justice the Supreme Court who overturned it. She lied to us. Which is why I am proud to reveal my other new tattoo, Ruth Bader Ginsburg, doing aio Hitler in tasteful Blackface Meanwhile, in South Carolina, Congresswoman Nancy Mace finished fifth in her state's guubernatorial primary, failing to advance to the runoff. For her part, Delaware Congresswoman Sarah McBride had this message for her erstwhile antagonist during his speech to gay advocates I don't like punching down and I believe in the politics of Greeace. So all I will say is Happy Pide, Nancy. Revealing a truth, Nancy Mace couldn't find in her policing of every women's room in Capitol Hill, Sarah McBride is serving Kunt. All right. And we have got a great show for you tonight. We'll be right back with Jerry O'Connell Hey, don't go anywhere. There's more of Love it or Leave it coming up. 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And so thank you for being part of this community.so If you are in LA, do not miss our very special two part Pride episode on june sixteenth, featuring Oko Kotsuka, drag race winner, Mikey Meeks, leegendary Jokeriter, Bruce Valanche, Brendon Skinnell, Ashley Ray, and more. So go to crooed.ot com slash events to get more information Allright He's the only straight man whose opinion on reality TV I ever care to hear. Please welcome to the stage, Jerry O'Connell Hi, nice to meet you. Thanks for being here. Buddy What an honor to be here Oh man, just trying not to get screwwm this summer. Got it Hey, listen Is there any prevention? Can we use like Bug spray or anything or I think that only that only excites them. Also waiting for that strait of Hormz to open up unless like this summer iss justy like S is so anxious so so far. Yeah Yeah, we got the straight we got not enough action on the straight of hormz too much screwworm action It is funny I am on Straight of horn Horm Muz watch, I wake up in the morning I personal business U I'm older so I have to go do personal business immediately and u I checked to see if that straight opened up and here we are. another day. the straight's not open up. Yeah, It's a bummer about that. So you're watching Real Housewives? I have not started watching Rhode Island yet. I'm so sorry. I hear I know it feels, you know because they all already you're back in a world where it It feels like they have been fighting since long before the Gamer showed up So it is crazy that we do like our housewives to be volatile with each other. No one here condones violence, like not at all.ll just want to say loveve it or leave it does not condone violence. Except if it's in the form of housewives I do hear that the house that the real house has of Rhode Island gets back to J Jealous fighting. mean It's not about like selling like products. it's just about like people like getting upset with their neighbors, which is what we look for. I will say, I am coming off of the whole summer house thing, which is on Bravo. if those don't know, it's a group of people who've been getting sort of a share, a summer share and there was a big controversy about people hooking up with people. I've been a little quiet about that because there was a big controversy that happened where One of the housemates who was married, who was no longer married hooked up with another male housemate and The young lady who hooked up with the other housemaid. I know everyone's confused right now. I'm so sorry we should probably A lot of people tuned in to talk about politics and now they're talking about this. I'm so sorry. but I did take the side of the two people who hooked up. because I felt like I felt like especially especially the young lady, Amanda Batula is her name was looking for just looking for a relationship. and I felt bad for her. and that's gonna you're gonna get a bunch of comments calling me a monster after saying that. But how could you say that? I know. I just with everything that's going on, but I should be talking more about my movie on TV, Summer's Summer works I'm not getting paid for it at all. Yeah Summer's last resort. very good title. Summer's L last Rort. It's a real it's a puzzle of a title. Yeah, it's a really good title. Emily our Witer came up with a really fun t. I mean, I'm not even kidding.'s's It's so funny when tell people home in a movie called Summer's L Rsort, they're like, Wellh, like Hollywood types are like, title Um, But I play a stepfather who's trying to befriend my new teenage stepchildren And u, We go on a vacation and I'm trying to marry Sophia Bush, my co star, beautiful young lady, great actress. We had a lot of fun together we shot in hotels so It really wasn't work. I imagine it's what like white lototus is like. L you just live in a hotel and they're like, All right, I wake up, You got to go to work and it's like ye Yeahah I'm at the pool already. J justust roll camera. Mike White is a genius. He's like I have an idea. We're gonna go to the nicest resorts on planet Earth for six months at a time. what incredible know and it's such a great show as well. So good But this is a little more family familyam friendly summer's last resort. It's not like the The the gays are trying to kill me kind of thing from the white Lus. It's not like, yeah, graphic sex, the u That's it's not like the graphic sex from like white Lotus. Remember remember when when the nephew is with the uncle in the bedroom and Yeah, there was graphic sex. oral sex. Yeah, yeah, all kinds of stuff happened. There was Yeah. there was not in your movie No. And by the way, I'm sorry Tuby if we're even affiliated with that. It is a family movie U It's just le it or leave it is a little racier. so I was getting a little whatever No wayver. It's a really fun family movie. and u You know what? I'm actually gonna get serious for a second. We have a big star in Summer's Last Rort named Violet McGraw, who is a young actress. I believe she's fifteen. Um And she's so good. And I want to say like I want to get serious for a moment I was a child actor. I was in standby me You expecting a larger applause for that. I was a child actor. I was in a little movie called Stand By Me Thank you. This is amazing. That's beautiful. Imost too much. But Rob Reiner, God Rest his Soul recently passed away and his wife wife, Michelle, and it made me very reflective about what Rob Reiner did for me in terms Being in the entertainment industry What I what is expected of me as a performer, what I'm good at who I am, not to be afraid to make jokes, like to go for it. L you if you want to make a joke about a screworm, go like try it. like just get crazy. Go for it and I This is the first summer's last resort on Tubi coming out this summer was the first project I did since Rob Reiner passed. and I was working with this young cast member, Violet McGraw. and I was like, I'm gonna try and instill in her what Rob instilled in me. And like we had a really fun time. I really have like I since Rob's passing, I really have like a different role on sets, you know? I don't know if it's getting older. I just have like like I enjoy working with younger people and sort of passing on what Rob really passed on to me and stand byy me Sorry to get so serious every What do what do you feel like as someone who there's a lot of people that started acting at a young age and it is brutal and cruel and they don't make it out, right? It fucks them up for a long time and they struggle. What do do you have advice you give to a young person on set? Do you have lessons that you think U young actors need to know that the parents of young actors should know. Yeah, u I mean, uh You know, I I was in A little movie called Standb byy Me Um audiences always do that, man. It's crazy. Um, and my my parents When it came out and it was really successful U I was fortunate enough that my success in Stby Me had didn't change how they were going to raise me as a child. I don't know if that makes any sense. I think you see a lot of younger actors, if they find success because they're good because they have that thing, you know? And I was fortunate enough to be with Rob Reiner who Literally like day one was like Hey Jerry Go crazy in this scene. like go crazy and I'll tell you when to come down. And it taught me to when I come out on a stage to perform, you know, and like someone will tell you like I mean, mr. Lll, you'll tell me when to take it down or notch, right? I mean, I could, I won't. parents, My success in Stby me, our family didn't revolve around that. My mom wass a teacher, my dad worked in an office. I went to colle, you know education was the most important thing to my parents. And then when I was an adult I realized I want to pursue this like AM good at it depending on what comments you read on Reddit but and also I've had such a head start being in standby me. You know, if I walk into a casting room, people are like, oh yeah, you were in that movie. And so I was fortunate enough to not have parents who so I can't blame the kids and like their decisions. I think it has a lot to do with their parents and the sort of the world that they put them in. Tell me when the show starts. Yeah onnce we have the cameras in position, we're going to hit out. We're gonna go. Now, I do want to ask you about a show that I loved which was sliders And It's funny we were talking about this because we were coming on the show that like There's a lot of people now that say something like, oh, once Trump got elected, we slid into the wrong timeline. The Marvel universe is all about different universes now. Like we live in a post sliders world. I'm often saying. Let me just explain for the ninety nine point nine nine nine percent who have no idea what you're talking about D't realize you were Such a sci fi nerd, mrter. L. but I was u I was in a TV show called Sliders in the mid nineties. on Fox And it was about a group of strangers who slide to parallel dimensions of Earth and they're trapped just going from one parallel Eth to the next. with slight tweaks By the way, this is pretty incredible. You can look it up in nineteen ninety five We do an episode where Donald Trump is president of the United States. Yeah, lookook it up. What? Look it up. Remember that? Look it up. I remember the one where the Golden Gate Bridge was blue That that was one And I think you guys should have stayed there. By the way, close enough. I believe I believe the episode where Donald Trump was in was president of the United States, we quickly slid to another world saying why we slid or not's that was our choice. but The next world we went to, this is not a joke. lookook it up. I may be a little bit wrong, but Hillary Clinton was the president in the other world. This is in the mid nineties. I'm not joking That was our writers our writer who created Tracy Tormet used to come up with these really Cool cool like parallel universes and just he was very politically minded and What if he was a time traveler? who was who had slid peopleeople are freaking out about sliders here. They're loving it. Yeah, but but it was a multiverse show and it was before like the Marvel universe does all the multiverse stuff. It's it's occasionally, very rarely someone will come up to me and be like You're the multiverse guy. And like I really feel like I'm the only you like the three of us, this generation right here. That's like it. It's time for game. We're calling. Hope you have the timeline of your life Here's how it's gonna to work. Okay. I'm going to give you two earth timelines, and you're gonna to pick the one you'd rather live in. Okaykay?iders timelines. These are inspired by sliders. Okay. First up, a universe where we have universal basic income, but we also have giant carnivorous sandworms like the movie Tremors or a universe where we've eradicated malaria, but Jeffy Epstein is the president And. You're in a twenty year binding contract to host the talkks J' not that That was a daytime show I hosted for Five or sixies. It's love everybody who was a part of it. Thank you so much. It was a good time anythingthing with Epstein has got to go. I'm going to choose the sandworms in the universal Universal choice Good choice. good choice. You can't. Wow, that Epstein stuff just way to turn me off. Wow. Sorry. I'm love that talk money for a few more years, but you had to throw Epstein's photo up there. That's what makes it a complicated thing. A universe where Hillary Clinton won the twenty sixteen election, but all food tastes like peeps Or a universe where Hillary Clinton won the twenty sixteen election, but once a day at a random time, you, Jerry O'Connell shit your pants arazzi follow you constantly until it happens that day because it's like part of our national culture Well I mean, wait what's the what was the thing with the peeps who for everyone on earth All food tastes like peeps all the time. Oh yeah. I'll take that. Peps are incredible. So you're telling me. butisten what you've just chosen. You have said that you want to consign all human beings on Earth to only basically taste peeps forever. or you can make a sacrifice and just shit yourself at a random time once a day, then food is great. But no nobody will know about the Peps part of it You know what? let me switch my answer. I'll do the shitting my pants everybody like It's I'most like You see what I'm saying? Itust just like, don't make fun of me, guys. No, I did it for the greater good. I did it for the greater good. You had be cool about it Next up a universe where you are married to your sliders co star John Reese Davies But he's cheating on you with your brother, Charlie O'Connell. Or a universe where you and John Rhese Davies are blissfully married, but the world is also populated with cyborg terminators that look just like John Rese Davies know I'm sort of like like I'm a modern love kind of guy. I wouldn't mind like my brother, myself and John Rese Davies are like three No, I'm not. I don't have to have sex with my brother. Nobe it at separate times for sure. Yeah. I don't have sex with my brother. That's like getting weird. but yeah I'm okay with John and my brother Yeah. Okay. wow. That's open that's a yeah Oh minded. you're not gonna to be jealous. Come on m Mister Lll, you know cool. I'm mister E A universe where pal hold on a second. Remember when Billy D. Williams had to rescind saying he was sexually fluid. Remember someone asked him if someone asked Billy D. Williams if he was fluid and he was like, ye, fluid. Yeah, fluid. Everybody's fluid. and then someone explained to him what it meant and he was like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,. It' like that just made me think of me going, Yeah, man cool. I was about to say fluid but I was like, no, no, no A universe where Palanter has turned the entire world into one cop style reality TV show And everyone loves you on it. You're like the breakout star. Or a universe where we have a food replicator like in Star Trek, but Rebecca Romaine only knows you as that annoying guy she met one time who did push upps to impress her at the two thousand four Maxim Hot one hundred partarty in Las Vegas. Okay, o. Okay. You know what I think I'm going to be happy that I don't know what I think I'm going to be happy about this. I don't know what Palantir is. Oh, it's like a big tech kind of surveillance company, see? I'm so glad I don't know what that is. Oh no, well, o no, maybe I should know what it is so that I know that I'm being like u Watched by electric. Yeah, it's like that. Yeah, it's like that. Like private eyes are watching you. Yeah, I'm not into that I'm gonna to choose anything with my wife. I love my wife f. Great We just had something to eat. I love her. Yeah. But that's how you met, right? You were doing push ups in some sort of an event? I wasn't doing push upps. We met at a your audience is so young. they're not gonna know what this is. A Maxim Hot one hundred party. was Maxim was a magazine with like It wasn't playayboy ser. It wasn't It wasn'tame on you. You know that's not true. who was like Playboy was it was a lad mag at a time. It was with maxim and stuff and it was called a lad Mag and it had articles in it, but also babes and so forth and it was fine. It was like it was like gadgets and mooobies Thank you to D Ponel. Hey, thank you so much. His new movie Summer's last resort. I'm so j to be this summer. 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Yeah, it ain't the same thing. You're not going to see no Greek mythology, monsters and no half naked white men running around. none of that. You know what I'm saying?' all This is all going be this is all music. It's Jay Farreow in another type of dimension, but the same type of core values. S fil me? Yeah. because I me Yeah, okay. All, so Because this guy had all the power in the world. He was he was on a he was on a mission to find another planet. So because Earth is like Earth is trash and you know what I mean? You know I mean? This is later. And And yeah, he gets all his power and he gets all his money and he saves these folks. And he realizes that having all of that means nothing unless you have love, man. and he finds love and that is the greatest theme, you know, and the greatest The gift that you could do is give everything back because you can't take any of it with you, you know? So yeah I disagree. You disagree. No, no. For me, you have to get as much as you can, climb the greasy pole, get to the top Yeah and then just Behold Go to the parties, go to the dinner parties all about the parties. Yeah to get has to now it needs to be loud because otherwise thoughts. gototta keep it loud. Keep it loud. Keep it loud, otherwise thoughts, But as long as you don't let your thoughts in excess. Loud and loud and slippery. Yeah. slippery loud. Yeah. wet, loud, slippery wet loud and slipperyot L like this Yeah That's what life should feel like. Yeah, like the some people are freaked out Yeah, that impressed that was spot on for I'm not going to explain what I just impersonated, but it was spot on, you know for the people who follow me right now. Yeah Yeah It's good to see you. It's good to see too. You know what, man? I love talking like myself 'cause I'm funny as me, you know,ike you know what I'm saying? It's kind of cool to just be able to kick it, you know, y'all don't know whether I'm doing a character, but I promise you, this is my real voice. But you've done Yeah Is it weird being yourself now? not It's like you how you were You got to hide behind people for a long time. I did, I did, I did, but you know what, man? I'm thirty eight, Dg. U ye, it's about time to Yeah, that's right. Clap Yeah, Clap for the millennials. Yeah, that's right. We can write cursive. ye. There we go Yeah, That's what we got. The cQ is weirder than you think. Remember that cQ? Yeah, It's a cursive cQ. Wh why is it a two? What are we doing here? It's basically a two. What are we doing here? You know what, man? we We had to do home roll keys and all of that. Yeah. Yeah, we survivive school lunches. Remember because school lunches were bad for us. They gave us that spoiled chocolate Ped mirr Yeah. and then they gave us the rectangle pieces of pizza with the cute pepperonis and that little orange crust at the bottom. Yeah. Nobody told you what the crust was. You just ate it. You were a kid. Y body's great, you know, youre not you're not going die. You're not going to die yet, you know. And then you know, who had to take the physical fitness test. you remember that? Yeah Whher was whether you was fat or skinny, ye. there was a lot of boys little boys running around flapping breasts. You know like yeah, Yeah. I was one of them. ye. yeah, mine was flapping. All my friends was like, Yo, dog, I ain't know you was so thick. I said, I don't know why you looking at me like that. yeah, that was that was really weird, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, we had to do that, you know what I mean? So yeah Good. M It'such such a crazy thing to make kids, Hey, once a year on a random Tuesday, you're gonna have to run a mile. in front of everyone. We don't prepare you for this. We don't tell you And basically we're just gonna find out who's first and who's last. And the kids that are first, they're gonna wait for you to finish That was terrible for me. It it waser for you? Terrible. It was terrible for us. This is a bad fs. I grew up. I remember We were picking teams for something. and it was me and this other little boy and he had fick glasses and played the clarinet and I was me W. And it came down to just the two of us about who was going be picked last. And when he looked at me and saw that it was just me and him He burst out crying. and I'm like Why are youry I'm consoling him because he's so sad to be at my level. And I was like, whyy are you crying This was always how it was gonna be. This look, man, Chucky Festter wasn't having it. You know what I'm saying? He didn't like what was going on, man. You got picked last too. I did too, but only because I was built like my sister at the time. Yeah. Were you Chubby as a kid? Yeah I was chubby. I had hips, you know, st And you know what still to this day, you know, they still when I do the squats, I'll be a little weary, you know, I' be like I'll be like, yo, if I keep going, you know what I'm saying, I'm have I'm gonna to be a fatty girl. You know what I'm saying? Jerry was was Chubby as a kid. You were Chubby I was I was husky. I wasn't his character in Stby me, which is forty years Yeah Wow. So J repented he represented the Husky. Yeah. There was you remember there was a section in the Montgomery Wards for Husky folks. Yeahember that You know, Husy is just a way of people calling you thick politely because there is nobody you ain't going walk into a party you S' husk not. Nobody's gonna do that, you know? You're fat. You're fat, sir, you know? Your grandmother, your grandmother has tried to pacify you 'cause but you know, beside her church members, she's talking about you, you know You know, they talkking about your hips and you know, they talk wow. I wish I had them hips or your grandson. It's really wow. But you're also doing music. Yes, I'm doing music. backack to the album. Yes. So Anderson Pock, think about Anderson Pock. thinkink about outcast and think about childish Gambino It's in that vein. it's in that genre, it's fununk rap. You know what I'm saying? Hey, I'm not clapping nobody talking about shooting people.' not That's not me. I'd rather talk about something happy, like, you know,, save us some money or you know, getting a free coupon to get some f popies. somethinghing like that. you like I find because I'm struggling a little bit lately because I've said this in the past, which is I I hope never I'm just thinking about it. I'm looking am I looking too far. Okay. I'm That's where the thought is. you're here, you're here. My my thought's up there. I gotta go find it and get it down and bring it to us.uch a good actor. I would have thought Nicholas Cage was up there and he was just gonna dropp that with some angel wings You are so dope, John, you know like that. something you know, I had to give you one. I mean, come on. All right, here we go. Sorry, Ghead John. What I was going to say is I was I was a very unhappy person for a very long time. and I used to say that for me politics wasn't about hope. I don't really care about hope. I'm glad you have it or if it's important and motivating to other people. Obama gave people hope. That was great got people to come out and vote and do the right thing, but I was motivated by anger and rage. That was what got me. I was like, I'm mad. And now I'm a happy person. And I'm like, wait, I'm not as mad as I used to be. So now I have to figure out how to be motivated by happier things And I feel like you're doing an album about kind of figuring out what it is to be happy. Yeah how to and after you've been through the kind of grinder of SNL and what that does to you. The grinder of SNL, the fame that comes from being popular on that show and also just the Man. Just the accessibility that you have as somebody who is young in Hollywood Um with, you know, women, with freaking, you know, drugs if you want, anything that you want and being able to realize that no, those things will never make you happy. And One of my friends had a famous quote He said, If you stand for nothing, you'll fall for everything You know what I mean So or is that maybe maybe that ain't her quote because somebody said it in the crowd, you know I think it's the kind of thing on like brainy quotes that's attributed to Gandhi or Lincoln Okay. So it could be whoever you want is what I'm saying. Yeah, Well, okay, so it could be whoever, whatever I want. So all right, I heard it. I thought she created it, but maybe maybe she didn't. and she ain't as a Shane as thoughtful as I thought she was, you know? Which is cool, which is cool, but it's a good it's a good quote. If you stand for nothing, you will fall for anything or is everything anythingthing, right? Everything E. S she knows she wrote An. You know what I'm saying? So being able to being able to go through that journey with this project and in my life as a parallel has been beautiful, brother. because I mean now man, I'm super connected. I don't dude I don't You you notice yeah, I haven't cursed, right? I normally I would normally curse. I don't curse off stage anymore. I'm trying to take it from my act because I didn't know I wasn't supposed to do it. I had no clue I getting closer to my faith, I've been reading more manen and you're not supposed to. You're not supposed to use those words. you don't have to be funny, You know what I mean? I think I need them. You think you need them? No, they're a crutch and I need them. For real? No, but it's still I still like them having in my toolbox. John, John, you know what you know what I love, you know what I always need in my life? Silk draws. You know why? Why Because when you move, they touch you, You know what I'm saying? It's real' real good. You know find I just find myself sometimes just moving from side to side because yeah, it just feels good. and everybody who has who wears silk draws understands me like this, you know? Yeah, you got to get something. It makeakes you feel better, you know You're right. Yeah I don't you guys make a note of that I got to get I gott to get silk drawers Silk because it feels good to move around. I don't have them, but I need them. Speaking of being of the kind of world SNL puts you in. Yeah you were once Dunk at the White House? Oh my gosh. Yes, I was, the last party that the Obamas had before everything, you know, Tumped out It was yeah, I was drunk. Yeah, I was drinking. so was everybody else, but I was having me a few. And I talked to Obama, you know, and I wish I wish I didn't that night. And the reason is because the conversation, John, check this out. Now, Obama comes up to me and you know, we've met before. That very gregarious guy very amiable. He's Obama. You know, he has no choice. You know, he's got to be like that. they or they going to write about him, You know what I'm saying? So I seen this guy he goes U Well Jake. U Man, I wish when you're on the show, we could have done something together in my drunk self just was like Oh, I can still make it happen. Yeah. I can make it happen. You know, I can hit Lauren Michels up right now. I'm talking to the most powerful man in the world telling him that I had the pull to get him back on SNL so me and him could do a sketch together. Yeah, I haven't had Don Julio since that night, son. You know what I mean? haven't had it Oh Crazy So so crazy so real so funny. It's so funny Don't worry President Obama, I'll put a good word for you Yeah, so that was that was that was my seven fifty seven hanging out dog. you know, that's where I'm from. That the Virginia hanging out day. I should And but they wouldn't have done that. So it was just me. I messed up. you know. I don't that you can blame your area code. Yeah, Yeah we got always. you know, that's what the ludicrs said he had holes in the many area code right. You know Right, Yeah, seven, five, seven, F ph, my c ph just overlook. ye. ye, Yeah, we got that one too Keep going, man. o ye U Now Before But now that we've got a little Obama, we're going use your skills to help people have hard conversations people struggle to have.. So here's how it works I have a list of scenarios that people might need help with and then we have Eggs the egg of the egg of truth was filled with People that you could potentially do an impression of. Okay. So first up, listen man, the fact that you got Kevin Hart's summer homeome right here is ridiculous. Why would you do it? Why would you do it? Be he's summer home. That's golden. He wasn't Come on, John. Come on. Why would I do that Kevin Hart's summer home the table. F up You have to break it to someone Break it to you that your wife wants to open the marriage. Oh man. And you have to do it as Sebastian Manescalco You could tell Jer, it's Jerry who wants his marriage open or doesn't want his marriage open. He's about to find out his wife wants to open his marriage U Well, the first thing I'm gonna say You got to make sure that your wife never feels like you like the other chick way more because Because if she does, it's game game over. You feel me All right, also also, look into your wife's eyes. You gotta stare into her eyes. If you don't look into her eyes, she's gonna find big Papa canane and he's gonna pop a nineteen right into your wife and then And then you're gonna be like Pete Dy. You all want to do that Why, Jerry, why wouldn't you? Why were do? Why Why would you do that, Jerry S? The open relationship All right, amazing. Next up, we have to inform Jerry. who is your dad that you want to go to school to become a professional clown and not for mechanical engineering like he thought. Yeah As Keana Reeves Whoa You know You should really have a conversation with Dor Dad about switching majors before The next payments come through Whoa because if you do, he'll lessen the blow and I can guarantee you you want The blow lessed. I took over twenty thousand blows, Doruring John Wick. It's insane So talk to him. tell him from the heart what you want to do And you'll be, fine.. All right Let's do one more. Wow That was amazing. Let's do one more You have to tell Jerry that your test for Chlamydia it was positive And you have to inform all your sexual partners Okay let's do Denza Washington So you've been out in these streets, huh? Ro? You' been out in the streets.? You've been out in the streets, you've been slang in the wood. You've just been doing it you've been pumping it, You've been doing it to whoever you want to, right? That's what you've been doing, right? Okay, well the first thing you gotta do now is you gota strap up. That's what you gota do first, right? You know what? You take that magnum, you take that Trojan and you put it on And you protect yourself from what they call the Ratchet read. Do you understand? Okay. Now, now that everybody's got Chlamyia, this is what I need you to do. I need you to I need you to talk to them in a very calm tone. you understand You talkal to them in a very calm tone, Jerry, you talk to them just like this, like I'm talking to. You say, listen, you got it, but it's curable, okay? and ain't the worst, okay? You know why 'cause it could have been the worse, you? You could have had something that you could never get rid of, huh? Could have got that HSV two one. you know what I'm saying? Huh? That's right, the one that makes the one that makes your thing look like nerds. You understand? Okay. All right, so that's all you gotta do. Jerry just talk to him just like this and say, listen, once you' cured, call me again. You understand? Okay. All right. All right Okay. Thank you, Jay. Everybody, Jay's album, The Odyssey is out as of this record right now. Yes. and you can check out the quiz with balls. Yeah whichich we didn't even talk about, but knock people off with giant balls into the water. Yeah just a regular Friday night for Jay Ferrell. You know what I mean? knock him off with my balls, you know? Yeah, not it's on Fox. We're in the third season, baby and the ridating yeah. We doing They get the questions wrong. They get knocked into the water by a giant fucking ball. Ball curse. Big ball. N you could do your thing. Yeah you could curse I'm allowed. Listen. Yeah J Farowworld dot com for tickets to see him live and we'll be right back with Zach Zucker. Yeah! Hey, don't go anywhere. There's more of loveove it or Leave it coming up This episode is sponsored by Betterelp Not everyone experiences summer as an endless parade of hot dogs, vacations and pool parties. For some people, life's woes don't abate when the temperature climbs and the days get longer. If you've got the summertime blues or are simply feeling overwhelmed, better help is there when you need it With over thirty thousand therapists, BetterHelp is the world's largest online therapy platform having served over six million people globally. And it works with an average rating of four point nine out of five for a live session based on over one point seven million client reviews. 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It's kind of what you would say is I got a huge hat, John Okay, everyone hates me already. No, I just also want to say, I didn't realize I was sitting with three chubby losers as kids. I was jacked. I was a strong child. My legs were so big they were like, you must be five children on top of each other. And I was like, no, that's just what squatting from a young age looks like. But I was ripped and I see people are upset with me right now But imagine, imagine this way bigger. I kind of slimmed out as I grew up, but I was ripped as a child. We just came up with our next movie we gonna do together. It's called Buff Baby. Buff Baby Please, please, if the industry would dare to make such a film as this But Okay again, corporate Hollywood afraid to do something challenging. That's You recently We're in a bulture story about the LA clowning community. and I want to give you an opportunity. Thank you to address them because because when because when people when I hear clown, when I think about what clowning is, I think of Zach because I think if somebody who has you went to France You studied it and you came back and you've interpolated it into what you do. and then you're on the record in this article seeming to slam the clown community. And I thought that doesn't sound like the Zack I know C to comment . Seems like you don't know me at all. No, it was bullshit. I have like a fata against me right now from the clown community. Eone'sbody everyveryone's so mad. I spoke about this and this made me remember that I don't trust journalists. And they're not your friends, no matter how nice they are because I spent eighty of my ninety minutes talking about how much I love this art form, how it is my favorite thing in the world, how I love community How I love all of the people and how appreciative I am of everyone in there. and ten minutes T ten toes down, I will say this, slamming the sycophantic psychopaths who are in in this community who substitute therapy for performance. and they terrorize audience members and they say this is this this art form and they ruin it. And there are people who've done one class once. and I think it's awesome like you need to have this opportunity to be bad and get this out there. But like the whole article came because some guy from Heated rivalry took two clown classes and I'm like, well, if I took two pizza making classes, I'm not a pizza maker. I'm just a guy who did something twice. And so I'm heated. Wow. there's so much I didn't realize how much energy and and emotion on this last three weeks, dude it's ruin friendhips for me if you're not taking care of the audience and you're not making people feel safe doing everything to just man, it's an art for of service and I get so passionate about it because I love it. And so to be to have been misquoted so flagrantly with no context to remove all of the history that I feel I feel I've added to this to this community and that I do with pride to be only like coming in ninety percent of the way and as like a wreking ball, dude, it was devastating. It absolutely devastating. Well, I'm glad you could talk about it. because here's the reason I want to bring it up is because All I know about this I know through you and what people often say about you specifically is you decided to learn about clowning and it made you an extraordinary performer. It changed how you were on stage. and I see you as a remarkable performer on stage. And so it it just must suck to then have this thing that you love, which transformed how you perform become something where like all of a sudden you're seen as someone who's like being antagonistic about. No, a dude and I'm like I'm hater for the sport is as a joke, but like I'm a lover first Fells, ladies, everyone in between. No, I' like I have to remember that to also be a little bit funny too. I've come in hot. But what can you expect I was a jacked child.wait, you also have your new special out, which is Jack Tucker, which is. I feel like a lot of people probably heard of you because of Jack Tucker and don't know that you're not Jack Tucker You know what I mean that they see Jack Tucker and they' like, o, that's just the That is the wet guy, but you're the wet guy. now you're dry now you're dry as his bone. Im well. Not when I'm talking to you, John? All right. You know just because you' mried doesn't mean married man. I'm a married man. Look we between. We had You had a chance and you fucking blew it and And I'm not going gonna res what you wanted me to do. You tell me to blow it if you' me to blow it, John So you have a Samntown special on Netflix It's coming soon.ing soon The Jack Tucker S specials on YouTube. It would mean the world to me if you guys like it. I have a boy. he's nineteen years old, He's small. and he's trying to play, he's trying to play baseball. So it would be so cool if you guys could watch this. and then yeah, we shot one for Netflix for our variety show. That's awesome. Thank you I noticed u seat laid out for you and there was like a Its like a balloon and some flowers there and it was empty on show night Yeah, look, obviously it's just like really hard for me to be in the room for you watching you perform because of like that's where we met. And so it's been difficult. And like I've moved on. I've moved on. You say that a lot. It doesn't have to be this way, John I'll never st I'll never stop swirling the rumors. It's great. The rumors, the rumors. The rumors, O one time someone posted on Reddit saying that we had chemistry and I texted them being like, canan I play with that? And that has been what I've done for four years Allegedly, I. Now it's time for second we call. I don't care. I love it Love it. Don't be braid. Here's how it works. All of our guests We'll share something that they love that other people hate that they may got shit for loving, but they don't care because they love it. We'll each have sixty seconds to defend the thing we love. and I'll kick it off H I'm gonna I'm going to tell you something that I love that you may think is gross and I'm just going to tell you that it's awesome. and I've started doing this, which is I take a diet Coke And I add Two shots of espresso And half and half Yeah. And you know what? It's fucking awesome. It's delicious. It's carbonated, It's sweet because of the dye Coke. It has two extra shots of espresso in it. It's got the creaminess from the half in half. It's awesome. It's delicious. and everyone looks at me like I'm crazy. It's great That's my man And you should try it before you see that part of you that's resistant to something that doesn't sound good to you, that anger or kind of disgust you feel for something new, That's the ice agent in every heart That That's the Trump inside of you. That's the Trump in you. somethingomething new disgusting. No Thank you. No, I'm sorry. I' got to make that face. Why don't you just have like an energy drink? They taste good, and they're like bubbly and you're like,, I feel that in my veins. Okay, you have that. I'll have my thing. All right, I'm gonna go with mine. I actually heard this recently. I love taking a hot bath or a hot shower, I crank it all the way up high, whether I'm at my house or at a public bath. I love taking baths like public places, public pools, bathhouses, stuff like that. But afterwards, and I actually carry them, I love after a hot bath a cotton swab in my ear, in my ear canal. It's just like it's just like really It's borderline sexual for me. It just hits me like right there. It's Well, it's my G spot. That's it. like right in there. And I feel it And I recently told someone about it and they said, it's very bad to do that that you're actually pushing wax into your brain And you know what? I don't care. I'm gonna keep doing it. I love the way it makes me feel. It fulfills me. and if it makes me feel good, I'm gonna keep on pushing that wax into my brain. Good. Absolutely. bo The box doesn't even acknowledge its true purpose. the Q tip people are like, this is for cleaning your keyboard. You know it's for shoving it in my fucking ears. You didn't build that big headquarters from cleaning keyboards. You built it from people shoving these things in your ears. Your whole business is about the bus putting these things in your. You can look the other way, QTip, but you know what we're doing You know what your business is? I just want to say with someone who has media training, I never said that brand. I said cotton swab. down a big difference. Wow. And as someone who doesn't have media training, I'm only thinking about putting them on my bum for the chlamydia test at the AHF Foundation and you can get free sexual he testing. Beautiful. And as somebody that's crazy, I just I just envisioned why you would talk about the cQiv and the talk and. it had Richard And I don't know why I thought that. But just yeah, Jack, it's real messed up in here. It's just dirty and it's sticking and I can't move myself. I don't know. There you go. Yeah is it my turn. Is's your journey. Yeah. All right, so check this out I don't care what nobody says, Son. Okaykay, First of all, peanut butter crrunch is one of the best cereals ever. I don't care if it rips up the top of the roof of your mouth. Nobody cares, Son. That's called battle scars. If I And And you know what? I'm gonna give you something el. Ludicrs is one of the greatest rappers of all time. That's right. Top five for me, Mother Uer, I'm a monster in this gay similarar to the lockess. My rhymes is snappy root and some verssees gotta process. The truth in this booth. Ain't no doubts when I raping. if I said that I either done it or it' About to happen, Luda. Yes, sir. And I still got twenty seconds 'cause I'm nice, son. Yes, Yes. That was lovely. Just give us some wine. He's good. All right, Dac, you're up. Damn. I mean just I want to enjoy there was four seconds left to enjoy Ludicrous. I just wantan to say we're talking about that backstage. and also I know everyone's clamoring to know my opinion on it. I agree. And the crowd goes mild All You have sixty seconds, . What' something you love that others hate? I think I'm gonna go a bit more local to Los Angeles Pacific and say, I love riding lime scooters with speakers around my body with an alleged spliff in my mouth, sunglasses, no shirt, bathing suit, ripping it down Sunset Boulevard. We are in California people What else are we supposed to be doing? And yeah, oh, you're the boombox guy. Oh, sorry, you mean the good pedestrian on the road practicing hearing safety. I don't have earplugs in my ears.t I don't have headphones in my ears. I'm open to the road so I can hear, but I'm vibing out You think I'm gonna miss that beautiful sunset? Right as it crest over Hillhurst? you're out of your goddamn minds. I'm gonna to be scooting and boot,. I'm gonna be smoking and people are gonna to be looking and I' like, yeah I'm nervous what you think about me, but I feel good, so it's okay. And I'm usually listening to Luda, you know how to mean? Oh God, I'm a household, name, a game, spitt it out of mouth at all times. I spit out and about and I spit it out and about until they recognize the day. okay, no one even knows, but. And that's our show. Thank you so much to Jerry James after one hundred forty four days until the big ts willll be back next week with a very special pride show. Have a great night and have a great weekend Love it or Leave it is a Cricketed media production Our show is produced by Kendra James Dom McGrath, Kelsey Gante, and me, Joh Loveitt. Our production team includes Hallie Keper, Sarah Lazarus, David Toles Caudia Shang, Jay Banks, Gavin Percell, and Matta Grth, and our staff is proudly unionized with the Witers' Gild of America East