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Mac Geek Gab — Apple Tips, Tricks, and Troubleshooting

Dave Hamilton, Pilot Pete & Adam Christianson

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From There’s No Two Hands About ItJun 29, 2026

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It's time for the MacGeek cabin listener Mark brings us our quick tip of the week with if you're a pack rat like me and tend to keep a lot of your text messages, here's a tip you might appreciate . I recently accidentally suremarked deleted all of my wife's messages . I thought, oops , guess I won't get those back wrong on the Mac pressing Ctrl Command four or going to view recently deleted will bring them back . So more quick tips like this, plus your questions answered today on MacG eleven forty eight for Monday june twenty ninth, twenty six Greetings folks and welcome to MacGeekab, the show where we share your quick tips like that. We share your cool stuff found. We share your questions , we try to provide some answers. The goal being every single one of us learns at least five new things every time we get together . Our sponsors e a new one and some favorites. I don't want to say old favorites, although one of them is older than us . 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I mean , burnt ends with bacon or is the burnt end actually part of the bacon cut of the So I'm looking to be educated. I'm looking at it and it looks delicious. Let's see june thirty twenty ninth, twenty thirteen, the owners of Him Barbecue first serve bacon burnt ends to their friends and family. Bacon burnt ends. To answer the question, are cubes of bacon barbecued to perfection. This day is a day that not only changed their lives, but the Texas barbecue industry in general, so they say. Got it. We had just said the regular burnt ins, which is different. So it sounds like you're taking a pot of bacon and it looks like that might even be like pork belly.ork P belly exact ly and then cooking it, barbecuing it like you would have burnt and yeah, slow cooking it. Yeah, right exactly. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Now mackep. com slash giveaway lets you enter to win a copy of Sainbox. So make sure you don't miss that too and why I think that's I think that's what we got. I think I think we can move on to quick tips unless unless there's a more business to do through. No, no, let's let's keep it trucking. Keep on truckin with Scott. He says, Hey, good people. I am sure everyone already knows this one. Well, don't be so sure. But if not , it might come in handy one day. I was editing the name of a file in the finder and press return to commit the change. I realized I screwed up the name. On a whim, I decided to press return and start editing the name again and press Command Z which restored the original name . I also tried performing the same steps after moving away from the file even to another folder. When I went back to the file I was able to undo my edit . Yes, Scott, I didn't know you could migrate away. I thought you had to do it quickly, but that's kind of good to know. So see, even I learned something, Scott. We all learn. That's one of the things we love about doing this show. Yeah. Yeah . Yeah, we mean it when we say we all learn five new things like it's might not be the same five for each one of us. In fact, it'd be really like what would the odds be of us all learning the same five things? I suppose there's a factorial that would answer that question, but one out of something factorial, but I don't sounds like winning the lottery and getting hit by lightning at the same time. It sounds like public math is what it sounds like, which we 've learned to avoid . All right, moving on to Larry . We should do that at this time. Yeah, Larry writes in there's actually two quick tips in this one. First one is this . Hey guys, longtime listener love the show and I recommend it to every Mac owner I know. So that's quick tip number one. Do the same, would you please? Secondly, he says, I found a clean workaround for keeping my Apple Watch ultra tube dim and silent at night without using sleep focus. And I too am not a fan of sleep focus. A lot of people aren't, as he seems up stop editorializing repeat and go on. He says, I set two shortcuts using or automations using the theater mode. One turns it on at ten PM, the other turns it off at seven AM . The tricky part is typing theater in any of the search bars and the shortcuts app doesn't show anything. Theater mode only shows up when you start a new blank automation and search there, not in the other shortcut search fields. So I will put the steps in the show notes and I also just put them up in our discord chat so that people can see how to do that on your Apple Watch using shortcuts to go in and out of theater mode at set times. So we just put a link to the post in the show notes. That way it keeps the show notes from getting overly cluttered. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's great. I like it . Good stuff . Yeah , fun. All right, let's move on to Hans says if you want to email the contents of a web page to someone, just type command I the results of this command vary a lot. Sometimes you get everything on the page, ads and all and sometimes you get just the basic text without even embedded items such as Twitter posts or YouTube videos, etc . It varies from website to website in even four different pages of the same site, but it's still convenient and I've never been able to find it anywh ere in the drop down menus so far as I recall . Discovered it by accident It is in the this is in Safari specifically . Right. And sorry sorry. And I have seen it in it's in, I think it's in a sub menu somewhere . But I do remember seeing it in the menus . I think I don't know. I don't have Safari open right now and I don't want to, you know Do you think it changes if you put it if the page supports what's it called reader mode? Reader reader mode. You think you could like put it in reader mode and then share it and then strip all the ads, et cetera? Oh that would be worth a test, Adam. I like this. Yeah. Yeah. Try that. Okay, I'm not sure either. Yeah , I like that. That's pretty good. I was trying to see I have it open. I was trying to see if I could quickly see what 's gonna say, are you able to test this ? Where it is , I will do some testing okay and we can circle back to it at the end or something if I come up with anything amazing. Okay, cool Russ has a quick tip for us in the meantime he says I was going to listen to some music while hanging up the clothes. He says I have the kind of stereo a guy would buy when he graduated from college and got a job in nineteen seventy three with those four foot tall poke audio speakers, et cet,er aet c.eter Hea says, I still like the sound. I have an Amazon echo show and a raspberry pie running volume , which is an airplane receiver. We'll put that in. It's like a little sort of bonus cool stuff found because why wouldn't we? And he says feeding a passive mixer. So I can ask the A lady to play anything I want on Apple Music or I can airplay to the setup . I really never touched this system. I just listened to whatever I want. I don't even have to touch it to change the volume. I sat down at my Mac and started the music app to play my favorite mix and it would not connect to the speakers. I really didn't want to reboot my system. That would have fixed it. He says, I turned WiFi on and off on my Mac, I killed core audio, nothing worked. I said, The heck of it and selected my homepod minis. I really only want a music while I was hanging the clothes. Then, he says, I was shocked. The menu bar speaker selection said Homepods. But music was coming from my revered pulk audio speakers. Sure enough, the speaker selection icon in the music app was pointing to speakers. And the reason I couldn't connect to the poke audio in the menu bar was because I was already connected to them via the music app . So yeah, the music app itself can choose a different destination for its audio . So you can leave your Mac sound coming out of your Mac or wherever you have routed it with the, you know, the sound output and all that stuff . But the music app does in the kind of in the bar there. I don't even I don't know what we would even call that bar, but the sort of the player bar that sits at the top has a little Airplay icon and you can click that and choose anything might appear in Airplay. So yeah, that's a great tip. And Rust does continue. He says, I told you about the Volum o app years ago . He says, I think they have an appliance, but they also have this free app that can run on a raspberry pi. I only use the Airplay Sharing functionality, but they have worldwide web radio , and I think it could be your plex for music. So I will put a link to Volumio in there. That's pretty good . I like that well, I mean, we used to be able to go buy an old air Air port Express to use as an airplay destination our for external speakers, right , you know, that that serve that purpose and it seems like this volumio app when put on a raspberry pie can do the same thing. So that's actually really good to know about , which I love. And I'm sure you did tell us about it years ago, Ross . And the nice part about this show being as old as it is is that I get to learn things two, three, four, five times sometimes because I get to learn it, get excited about it , forget it. Learn it again. So there you go . Sweet. Yep. All right, so here's your follow up. I did some testing. Okay . So yeah, he's correct. Command I just basically grabs whatever on the page and puts it into an email. It doesn't look like putting it into reader view makes a difference . He's right that different websites, the formatting is different. I'm going to guess, just go out on a limb and guess on that one . It's going to be whether or not the site a specific print CSS , which is something you can do , which changes the formatting for printing . So if they don't, like I did one website, it was just jumbled all over the place because it probably does not have a clean like print CSS. So JavaScript and all those things don't render that kind of so can really change the layout, especially on modern web pages. The other thing I discovered is if you press command Shift I, it just puts the email address into or the website address into an email. No, just like the link , which was interesting. And then finally, what I would recommend actually , you might want to do though is and again, this would be, I guess the same as print because it's going to use the print CSS, but another thing you can do hit Command P and then use the little PDF drop down at the bottom of the print window to choose send in email , which will or send in mail, rather, which will generate a PDF and put it into your email and you can start composing from there . There you go. While you're there, Adam, and I know that we discussed what I'm about to say recently when a listener sent it in and I can't remember your name off the top of my head . In the file menu , you can certainly go to print and print a PD F and that will be a paginated PDF , but I believe you can also choose export to PDF or something like that from the file menu in Safari and that will give you a single page sort of long PDF of the web page. Are you seeing that there ? I'm gonna have to open it out more time . Yes, export as PDF. Export as PDF. Yeah, and I believe that gives you a non paginated PDF, maybe the easy easiest way to say it. Yeah . And where did you find that? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. It's it's error in the file menu. Yep . Yeah . Which and that can be super handy that export is PDF because you know, sometimes that's what you want , you know, a single non paginated non paginated PDF. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I kind of liked that better. Hitting that little share icon and then sending the page in or email the page just for me just gives me the link. There's two options there. Email the page and email a link to the page and they both do the same thing for me. So I don't know what I'm doing wrong. It might be the page, Pete. Yeah . Oh, that's true. Yeah. If the I mean, I suppose it's possible to make the print. CSS block things. I don't actually I don't know . Let me read can for sorry., you Okay. Yeah, I mean you would just see us hide . Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah . And where is where are you finding this? One last time, where are you seeing this in the menu , Adam, or you're not Which one? The share , the mail, sorry, mail PDF . When you do a print, so command P or or then down at the bottom you will see typically a little PDF drop down and there's a bunch of options in there to save No, I was I was correct . Thank you. didn't ask my question clearly enough. We were presuming that this mail web page thing was in a menu somewhere and I was wondering if you had found that. That's what I found it by using that little share icon at the top right of Safari. If you click on that, it comes up with a whole bunch of ways to share it, and it has emailed this page or email linked to this page and they both do the same thing for me on this particular page. Okay . What email client does it bring it up in for you, Pete? I defaulted the Mac mails. Okay, all right, okay. Interesting. I would presume it's whichever one you have set as your default. No, I was just wondering if that was part of why it was emailing the link on that page . Oh, gotcha. I should use open in for my male clients. I do not. You could yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Let's see. Use it for my browsers. That's for sure. And for my images ? I'm curious if you went to say apple dot com and chose email this page if it would act differently, Pete for you. Well, I can I can do that as we speak. Well this page. I could go over and like do a little drum roll if we have to do alright well I've already clicked it. We're waiting for it to see if it's going to bring it up again if it's does it emails the page date. Okay, so it is the it is based on the page . Correct. Okay. Because the page that I tried to share and it only gave me the link to was our show notes. Oh, that makes sense. G Itoo'gs ale. document Yeah, okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it's just a document, not a yep , not a HTML page, so to speak. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Right. Well, I mean, it is very HTML. Yes And JavaScript and all the other things. So yeah. All right, shall we move Oh go ahead Adam . Sorry one more thing because I was trying to see like because we were talking about the ads and stuff like that you know, kind of getting the way. I was trying to see if the safari feature, do you guys know the safari feature hide distracting items ? Yes . Yeah , so you can you can it does not work with the command I thing, but it does work with the PDF print things. So if you click on the little icon on the left that puts you into reader view or whatever, there is a menu command called Hide Distracting Items and that puts you in this mode where you can click ele ments on the screen. It will poof those elements away, just get them out of the way. So you can poof away the ads and the social media links and all that stuff. Sure. And then you hit the little checkbox when you're done hiding items and then that sort of locks it in and then you can print and you won't have like extraneous stuff. Yeah . Yeah . No more squirrels. Interesting. I see what you're saying. So yeah, it sort of customize your view initially the page then and then print it or save it to PDF, whatever you're going to do and that way you've got your customized view. I like that. Okay. I read a junk that you don't want in your print . Yeah . Now it doesn't I've never made great use of that feature . It only remembers it for that session, right? When I come back , it doesn't remember. Okay , all right . Okay , it has no potential to break anything, I'm sure. No, I don't think it will. You can just then unhide it. Yeah. If you go back to that menu, it'll just say it shows you a little eyeball icon with a line through it, it tells you how many things are hidden. You can click that icon again and then unhide it. Yeah. But I guess my point was it like if you decide I never want to see this element , you know, maybe it's the ad at the in the top bar you don't get to say that say you're saying I don't want to see it now, but when I got remembered. Did it remember? Oh, okay. Well, at least I quit the browser and came back and to the same page and it remembered. Yeah, maybe okay so maybe that I'm messing with right now. Got it . Got it. I would presume if they change the element if you know if the actual element like class or ID changes that all bets are off there. But sure . So like ads might not you might not have success with because if they're using a dynamic ID on the ad block , that probably it wouldn't probably remember that because that's probably how it's doing it is it's finding the different elements. Yeah , yeah, yeah, yeah . Interesting . No, keep us off the rail. I'll I'm going to keep us off the ra il for a second because there's an interesting bit of history here. Kiwi Graham says years ago a JavaScript little applet Prince Liminator would hide stuff stuff as you were kind of getting ready to make websites look better for printing. And you can see the GitHub repo. It is eleven years old . So don't expect this to work in any browser, but it was a Chrome extension and a little bookmarklit which might have worked in no it says hopefully Firefox and Safari Extensions adds will quickly follow. I'm not sure what they defined as quickly, but yeah, so there you go . I will put a link to that in the show notes for historical purposes only all right. Moving on to Doug. Yeah. Doug. Yeah, it's a little bit of follow up from something we were talking about. We had a listener, I think Jim was asking about switching from a laptop, I don't remember which specific model you had, but MacBook Pro or MacBook Air or something like that. And potentially buying a Mac mini or an iMac. And Doug followed up and said, Hi Team , Jim asked what to switch to next. Nobody mentioned that most of the and I think we all landed on Mec Mini , just for history. You can go back and listen to the last episode. I think that's where we were discussing it. But he said, nobody mentioned that most of these monitors because he was also asking about monitors , do not have great speakers and or good enough camera that is a good enough camera that the IMAC has iMac has a pretty pretty good webcam . I mean, the same is true if you're already using a MacBook in clamshell mode, but I've been caught out when recommending a Mac mini a Mac mini and a separate screen when after setup the person realizes they don't have these things. Aside from that, when recommending monitors, I recommend that people rule out any budget monitor that does not have IPS PD and as much brightness as possible, Doug. So he's saying, you know, think about getting extra speakers . I would presume a camera or I don't know if I don't know how many monitors these days come with built in cameras . Some do many that I know of. Not most yeah, exactly. Yeah . Yeah . But I mean, like you can get a pretty , I mean, not that I would like to have a better webcam, but the webcam I'm using now was something that just my company sent when we went remote and we switched to MacBooks and I use or MacBook Crows and I use mine in clamshell mode I. can So't obviously use the camera because I've got dual monitor setup. Sure. And it's like a thirty dollars HD webcam Nexigo is the brand NEXIGO and it was fine. You know, it supports all Apple's little features and reactions and all the modes . Yeah, you get a pretty cheap webcam that's decent. Yes . And Apple's webcams aren't always the best either . But they but they do suffice . Yeah, no, that's a good point. I'm I've been using the in fact, I switched several months ago. I don't know that we talked about it on the show. I switched from using my iPhone thirteen mini as my webcam, which is also an option, right? Like you can use your iPhone as a webcam in continuity camera mod e. That works great. Yeah, it does work great, and that's one of the best cameras that you're going to get . It might be the best camera, but I've been using the Insta three hundred and sixty link two Pro as my camera. And I actually when we do this show, I have a lot of the sort of smart features turned off because I don't want it accidentally following me around, but it will follow you around and you can even use hand gestures with it to kind of move it up and down , but it is I mean, it's not cheap. It's two hundred bucks , but it is a I have been very impressed by this webcam. It's cheaper than an iPhone camera. It is cheaper than that. No, that 's the right way to look at it, right? With four K and HDR and even the microphones in it. I mean, obviously, I'm not using the microphones for this, but it's got, you know, it's got kind of all of those features and yeah, it's not it's not bad. But you're right. Now that, you know, to get that functionality, you're adding, I mean , for that with camera, it's two hundred bucks with the one you're mentioning out of, you know, you can find a thirty dollars webcam out there that's probably going to do just fine for , you know, your Zoom calls and that sort of thing. So yeah, I was going to say Pete, unless you're repurposing an old iPhone, which is what I did. Yeah. And then I also got I, think Belkin makes a couple different versions of this, but I think this was a cool stuff found that I made. It's a little it folds up flat . What is it? Oh, it's a continuity cancel camera mount like a Mag Safetyam cera or your oneiP chamer and it can go both orientations . They also make them for your television so that you can use your Apple TV as a, you know, for pacetime calls or yeah the fun one the fun one with your Apple TV is doing shareplay if you're like me and you have kids who live in other places. We can watch movies together with shareplay on Apple TV, which is great. And I just normally prop my camera up there, but this is a mount that would sit on and this mount would work too, I guess, to sit on top of my TV. So they're about forty fifty bucks, I think. Yeah, you can I bought a ton of those when you know, when continuity camera first came out, they just little cottage industry things that somebody clearly three D printed on , you know, and made up a batch of them and puts them on Amazon. But yeah, if you go to Amazon and look for them, you can find them and get the one that fits whatever your scenario is best and then you 're good to go. Yeah But it is a great it is a great way to repurpose an old iPhone like I had an iPhone eleven I think that I was using. Yeah . Smart . Yep. Did you switch your s for a battery day? Did I remember? Is that what I remember? You had a battery swell ? I had a battery swell that's unrelated to the switch. I switched. No, I was thinking of your iPhone thirteen. You switch cameras. Okay , it's unrelated to the camera switch . Yeah. No, I just wanted to test this and I've been very happy with it and it's I love mine. Great. Yeah, that's the camera I'm using. I love it. The Insta three hundred and sixty. Yeah, yeah, it fits perfect ly in my El Gutta teleprompter. Mm . Yep. Yeah. Magnetic mount on the bottom of it and right there. Yep. No, it's they, yeah, they are making one of the best webcams I've ever used for sure. Yeah, yeah. Yeah . All right . Bill has a follow up from last, I think it was last week two , we were he says in response to Todd's question about how to eject an SSD drive that's mysteriously in use. He says I had that problem on my MacBook Pro , then because nothing seemed to work , you can exclude a time machine backup from Spotlight and none of the command line solutions I found online. You can't exclude a time machine backup from Spotlight. Yes, you can. We done that, but it didn't't it doesn help this problem when you're having it. He says there are two things in the end that proved helpful to apps. One is Jettison, which is from St. Clare software, which are the folks that make default folder. It's a menu bar app that mount s and unmounts drives. He says I use it to set a hot key that ejects my time machine disk and puts the system to sleep all at once because I hardly ever eject that disk unless I am going to shut the lid. You can also set Jettison to automatically eject the disk before sleep, log out or shut down . And then the second is the app called Mole , which is available both as a command line app for free . Inside of Homebrew is the easiest way to install it. And then also they have a GUI app , which I think is like nine or ten bucks . And he says Mole's optimize feature. He says, I tried it and my time machine disk has been ejecting normally ever since . He says so maybe that's maybe that's something to try. That's really interesting that the optimized feature the optimized feature go es through and cleans out storage that is used mainly by temp files and that kind of thing , but I run it pretty consistently here on my Mac in the studio because you know, it only has the five hundred gig SSD in it. So I'm happy happy to clear out temp files regularly and it's not uncommon that I'll wind up , you know , getting ten gigs back, which hey , you know , ten gigs is ten gigs, man. So that's two percent. Yeah, album . That's right . Yeah , yeah, exactly. I know. It's actually no, is that's not right . Yeah, it would be exactly right I shouldn't be doing public math either. There you go . So it's a pilot thing. Thank you. No, no, it's a podcaster thing. No ,body no should be doing public m ath. Great . One last quick tip from Yeah . Dom wrote in, he says, I love my air tags, but my least favorite feature is how darn slippery they are. When I'm trying to change a battery in one, I can't get my fingers to grip. Maybe I should use more napkins when eating my pre battery changing chicken wings In any case, I discovered that if I put together a few loops of tape , cellophane, painters, tape, whatever, and apply them to the back of the air tag, it provides provides just enough grip to spin the cover off and back on. And then Ben, this was from our discord help desk, by the way . And Ben said, well, how about a pair of rubber thimbles to which R Stanley said, yeah, the ones used for counting money when I work the counter at the post office. And yeah, that'll provide some grippage . Yeah . I like it. That's good. That's smart. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It is, yeah, good tips. If you have a quick tip of your own, please send it into feedback at macke ab dot com so that everyone can benefit learning about it. We'll share. You heard him feedback at McGeekab . com . That's right , Pete. Feedback at McGy . I like Adam Radio Voice. 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First of all, I was glad for the ability to click in the popup and choose to close a program or resume it. However, that did not fix the underlying issue . After some trial and error, I thought to check the amount of free space on my internal drive , and sure enough, I found the space was beginning to be somewhat low. I took the time to free up stuff and the low memory issue resolved itself. I write because I would not have identified a low memory warning message with low disk space , but maybe this is somehow related to how Apple's unified approach to memory works . What else would I have done to know this? And I think I love this question, Adam, you want to you have some thoughts about this ? Cleaning up storage or identifying when that is the issue. I think what are we talking about? Let's let's let's do both. Let's let's talk about identifying when that's the issue because I mean, I just mentioned it too, right that I have to be proactive about it on this computer here in the studio because I've got that five hundred gig drive. So I mean it's one I guess for me it's become just one of the first if I am seeing like a slowdown on my system I don't know if you're using any tools to actively monitor for it. I'm not really, I think Clean My Mac might be able to do that, but I don't I don't like stuff running in the background. So I don't let it do that sort of thing . But you know, it's just one of those first troubleshooting things that if I'm working on my Mac and I'm seeing spinning icons and things just feeling sluggish and stuff like that. I will just pop open the Apple menu and about this Mac and look at where my storage is sitting basically. Sure. I think you have to click more info now, but basically just double check, okay, how much how much do I have available ? How much am I using ? And even like right now, I am almost full on my thing. I haven't noticed any slowdowns yet, but I have about eighteen percent free space. Yep, which is not great. I don't like operating in that mode . I usually like at least twenty, if not more , but you know, if it's down to like ten percent, five percent, I think that's when you're going to start seeing at least that's when I start seeing things get really chunky Yeah , well Well actually I don't I don't worry as much about the percentage thing anymore Well I don't have that luxury on this on this on this drive, you know, as Pete pointed out , you know , ten gigs is two percent and I would have if I were to set a percentage, I would have set it to, you know, ten percent or something. But if I had fifty gigs free on this drive, I would be smooth sailing. And I think but I think that's a function of us all being on SSDs now , right in the percentage , you know, keeping a percentage of your drive free was definitely something that made a difference in the rotational drive days. And I realized that rotational drives still exist, but by and large, our boot drives are not rotational drives anymore. None of mine are . And I think SSDs allow us the flexibility or don't have that same limitation because it was all about fragmentation, right? And you were down that low percentage wise , it likely also meant that your drive was very fragmented and that's going to slow things down. So to me, I think that's kind of where that guidance came from. I don't think it was bad guid ance. I just think it's somewhat outdated . I use iStat menus to answer the question that you asked Adam. And I use it for a lot of things, but one of I actually do I two things with it that are germane to this conversation. One, I put my disks free space in the menu bar. So at any moment in time, I can look and see that like, wow, I have forty one gigs of free space. That's amazing. You're close. No close anywhere. I mean, close to close to your fifty five. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Yeah, no, this is wow, that's crazy. How did I get that? How' Id get so lucky? I probably ran molecules. Actually, I did. I ran mole from the couch last night. That's right. You go came across the network. But I do ISAT menus also lets you set alerts for a lot of things and free disk space is one of them. And so I have an alert that will fire when I get below ten gigs free . And I realize that's cutting it very close to the wire , but for me that, is where I must live on this. So I really, I feel like I could find a hundred gigs to rid of on this, but I don't know where those would be. So I have ideas. Oh, I got some too. Yeah, go I like go ahead. I'd love to have because I think that part of this conversation is the that's the second part of this conversation, right? Is where to clean things up? So what where would you go, Adam, if you have ideas? Well, you already mentioned, you know, part of it , temporary files, things like that are often culprits . I think we've talked about in the past if you're using things like any media streaming apps and you're downloading movies and things like that for offline . I do that with Apple all the time. Apple has built in features that'll help you manage that where you can have it either automage it or you can go into your system settings storage area, right? Yeah, and turn on , you know, hey, I've downloaded a bunch of movies or audiobooks or another thing , you know, all of those things are areas that I typically look in . It's another common one is two ones that I always forget about but seem obvious once you say them . Email attachments that just build up and get downloaded over time, suddenly you're like , I've got somebody's sent me a bunch of images or photos and it's five years and now I've got just tons of old attachments that I don't need downloaded locally on my machine anymore. So cleaning those up . And then related to that, and I just discovered this recently is messages , you know , yep, like photos that people send you in messages , you know, I went through and offloaded the ones that I wanted to truly keep into into my photo library and then just purged everything and that got me a lot of storage back too . And so overall for finding all this stuff and cleaning up all this stuff. Again, I know it comes up over and over and over again, but my tool is clean my Mac . Yeah, it has the junk cleanup feature, it has the The My Clutter feature where you can point it at a specific folder and it'll find duplicates and large files and similar images and all that sort of stuff. And then of course you have space lens which gives you that visual map of your entire hard drive so you can kind of hone in and see where are my largest files and it'll help filter all that stuff and find those sorts of things . I guess the last one is the last one, which Clean Mec also helps with is leftovers from old applications and stuff like that, specifically stuff in your library application support application support folder where a lot of apps will just dump junk . And you delete the app, you know, by dragging it out of your applications folder, and then all the apps of data and garbage is still sitting there for years and years and years and yeah they need it anymore . Yeah. Yeah, yeah and you're right Clean My Mac is great at that. I it 's and this is why I don't recommend people get systems with only half a you five know hundred, gigs half, a ter abyte because I don't do any media consumption on this computer. Like this is a work se, this computer here. It is my podcasting computer which me,ans I edit the show on it, which now means editing video, but I have an external drive at everything that is large that can be stored on an external drive is I've been managing it that way from day one because I knew I had to do that. But so there's no like I don't have an iTunes library synced down. I am synced to my iTunes library but it is it's all in the cloud , the same with photos , although I'm not even sure that I'm synced to my Oh no, I am synced to my photos. Am I I don't know that I am I think I'm not even synced to my photos library but Apple mail is a problem because I can't point it at an external drive for its storage. It must go in my home folder . And although I can set mail not to auto download attachments and things like that, right? So it's somewhat minimal, but still it's not terribly minimal. And then and then messages is the other one . So So but you're right. I need to take advantage of more of the Clean My Mac features. I definitely use Space Lens all the time, but Space Lens is kind of a like you said, it just gives you that picture view and I love it , but it's not doing anything smart . It's not guiding me through what I can delete. It's showing me what's there and then you know , giving me information that I can choose to act on or not But doing the app cleanup and things like that , you know, and then just other things like, I mean, I do run logic on this computer and Apple wants to download all of the logic like support files and those go in your home folder and you know your plugins go in your home folder. It's like nope, I've got this huge external drive here. Can we please use that? It's like nope, no, that's just gonna go in your home folder. It's like cool. Great. Thanks Bro. So I've got two things to add. One is se ener is a free option and probably not quite as powerful as is how is that spelled? HARLIE, Charlie LEAN ER Yep , which it's short for crap cleaner. Yep At sea cleaner dot com and there's a Mac version and it's free. It does a nice job of cleaning up a lot of junk and it's free, my favorite price . Here's the other one and Dave, you're either going to say, oh man, hadn't thought of that or maybe you have, or you're going to go Pete, you ignorant fool I used AI to assist me with this TMUTIL list local snapshots . And then I went and said, Here's the result s and I had bunches and bunches of them and I said, Delete all but the most recent one. Give me the terminal command to delete all but the most recent one. And I'm telling you, I got one hundred thirty gigs back the first time I did that. Sure . Yeah, you can, you don't have to use TM utility if you don't want to you can see them in disc utility . You have to give it a second, go to the view where you're looking at the disc. It'll take a minute to enumerate through them all and then they'll appear . And or you can use carbon copy cloner if you have that to show you snapshots, but TMUTL can do it too. Yeah, , that's that's fine. I don't I don't think you're an ignorant fool for doing that . But but I will caution everyone tech support for anything , be it your computer or your say well pump with A I is most valuable when you have a working knowledge of the subject matter and it is guiding you . You know, and I mean I chose the wall pump specifically . Like I'm pretty good using AI to guide me and give me ideas that I might not think of for tech support with a computer, but I have enough experience with it to sort of filter through that and know ah , yes, this is a good path to go down a wall. That's terrible. That's dangerous. I don't have enough experience with my well pump to do things like that. And so I do now , I still don't. I really don't. Okay. No , I have more experience than you did. I do, but I still don't I have now I know enough to know to know that I don't know nearly enough, right and right. So I wouldn't use it. I wouldn't use A the next time. I would I would call the professional. Right. And so that 's the that's the pitfall of using , you know, a chat bot to assist you through that. But no, it's not, it's not bad. I find it very helpful because it'll be like, oh wow, yeah, I didn't think of that. Right. Okay, that's a great idea. And the standard advice applies to that, right? Is have a good backup before you go down the road for sure. But yeah, no those local snapshots are good. Adam, I want to circle back to something you mentioned which is cleaning out messages . Can you walk through the process that you took to archive the important stuff out before you cleaned them? Well, I just like this is something that I think a lot of people would benefit from. Yeah, I'm trying to remember specifically what I did. I think most of the stuff we use a couple different group messages and obviously I have messages with specific family members or friends and things like that . So I'm pretty sure what I did was if I'm remembering right went into , you know, click on the little icon for the group message, right, which brings up the little menu on the side. This is on my Mac. You can also do this on your device . And I think went through the different sections like photos . Okay . And I think I just selected them from the list that I wanted. You know, you can do your selection in whatever ways that you want and then just made sure that I saved them I believe. There's a save option if you right click on the images and I just saved them out or just made sure they were downloaded into they also automatically and I might have done it through photos now that I'm thinking about it because I think these things now show up also in the shared with you section of your photos app. I think you can also select them from there and choose to download them yeah, you can do save shared photos. So if you look at the shared with you , the lower left corner and I think this is actually how I did it. The lower left corner will have a little chat bubble if it's something that's been shared with you. Yep . And you can select all those and then you can right click and you can do save shared photo and that will save it into your library. So photos was the main thing that I wanted to make sure that I saved locally and I had my own copies of those rather than just coming through iCloud or through messages . And I think I just went in into messages and just purged them from there, I think is how you can. No , you're right. I didn't realize I was walking through it as or I was performing the steps as you were walking through it and you can go into like the like you said the little eye and go into the media type that you want or all media and you can select things and then once you've got a selection set , you can right click it and choose to add that to photos or delete . So it's all yeah it's all right there. I'm going to say this because I was very worried about this, right? Because we have like a family one where we share a lot of photos and stuff like that and I was not sure like if I delete it , is it going to like poof it for everybody ? Like is it gone for everybody else? I tested on one. I would advise everybody do your own testing from what I remember and from what I've seen and nobody in my family's complained. I think I deleted them a bunch of them and it deleted them for me in my iCloud, but it did not delete in their like iCloud syncing things. So it cleaned up my stuff , not there stuff. And I did. I tried one that I felt was okay, this is probably not that critical first and didn't run into any issues, but don't oh man do your own testing. I'm just warning you. Yeah, yeah, for sure. No, that's yes, good advice. I believe that's the way it works. I believe you're deleting them. You're only deleting them for you. You're not, you're not deleting them for everybody in that in that message thread at least not with iOS devices. I don't know about if you're at a mixed group with what's the other technology we use right now . Yeah, but the RCS RCS. Yeah, RCS is happening. I don't know how that works. Yeah , yeah, I don't know how it works. My yeah, I can take a guess, but I won't. just to confirm when you deleted them from there , it did delete them from messages on all of your devices, not just your Mac. Correct? Correct. Okay . Okay. And that's about freeing up iCloud storage more than local storage. Yeah, yeah. Do you store do you you have the enable messages in the cloud or iMessage in the cloud or whatever check? Okay, okay. Got it. Yeah, that's the other key part of this. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. Because it will, it will manage those somewhat but yeah, I'm trying to think of something I did recently that wiped that out, but it's not coming to mind. So okay, this is great. If you have more to share on it, feedback at MacEeCub. com, I love that we're Apple doesn't make it easy to prune this stuff in a way that like preserves your data and like that gets you what you want. Whatever quote unquote what you want is, right? Absolutely makes a lot of choices for us and they're, you know, even though Apple makes the same choice for all of us, they're we're not the same. You know, we don't have the same needs. So all right . Where are we on time? Oh we okay. I mean, that was quite a long segment, but a valuable one. Good one, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Good stuff. All right, moving on. We can do that at this time. Yeah, we're gonna go to Steven Steven in Manchester. He writes Evening Gents, I just had to scratch my head for a few minutes after trying to copy and paste someone's phone number into an email . After going into the contacts and copying the number, I pasted and it's my surprise , nothing appeared except the cursor moved. I did it again , and the same thing happened. Surely not, I thought, but to my horror, the text was copied , rich text with white font from the contacts app , so pasting it into an email it didn't show . How in twenty twenty six is this a feature ? And he attached a video showing it and sure enough this shaked apple. Anyway , off to watch the England game at the pub, so I hope you did well, Stephen. But yeah, I had this happen to me too, so I'm interested in your answer. Yeah, there is a solution to this . You know, it's been there on the Mac for a long time where you can in the edit menu choose or choose the keystroke that invokes the paste and match style , which will ex doesactly what it sounds like. It matches the style of where your cursor is and IOS has this now too . So when you go into IOS and you sort of tap to bring up the paste, select, select all thing. If you've got something copied, then cut and copy will be there too, of course . At the end of that, there's a little, you know, greater than sign a little, you know, pointing to hey, there's more, right? So tap that and one of the options right there is this paste and match style. It's in the menu. And when you do that sure enough , it actually does what it's supposed to do and pace and matches the style. So not only do you get the right color text, but you get the right font size. Like it's not it's not inheriting any of that formatting . But that's the important part, right? It's not going to inherit your bold, you're italicized, you're all of that stuff that's gone. It's just going to paste it as sort of raw text. But a lot of the time that's exactly what we want. So yeah, that's the answer to that one. Command option shift V on the Mac , by the way, I use it all the time after I do a command V and everything's messed up and then I'm like, oh yeah, past and match though. I'm still paste all the time. I'm so glad you looked that up because as I was giving this answer, I'm like my fingers know what to do on the Mac, but boy how do it but it is command now that I'm looking at what my fingers do when I do it, it is command option shift z V ictor . And the way I do it, which is not it's like you're fretting the strangest guitar chord of all time, and I'm not I'm not a very good guitar player. I use my thumb to hold down command and option, my pinky to hit shift, and then my index finger goes over to hit V. That's how I just use two hands . Oh , I can't No , there's no two hands about this . Yeah, yeah. What was that? I had another comment on that. Oh the question I have is this a dark mode thing because he said he was copying from Oh it might be contacts and I don't have that problem as far as I know but, I would imagine it would be happening only if you were actually picking up white text Was it on his phone or on his mess? This is on his phone. Oh, okay. Yeah, that's right. That's what I was saying on his phone. Okay, because I'll tell you what , on the Mac for some reason in contacts now , all my stuff is in white. And that's where I've had the issue. It's coming over and it's like a gray background with white text in contacts and it's driving me nice. Is that a new maybe I don't know contacts enough these days? Oh, you're right . Yeah . I hold like that. That makes more sense now. I was just like wondering. But the second part of that question is how in twenty twenty six can this be a thing on the Mac? And the reason is the apps are trying to be helpful. Most people have the opposite problem or in the past have had the opposite problem where they're copying formatted text from some place and they want the rich text formatted copy in the other place. So I think that's why the default is now sort of all right, we're going to we're going to bring over all the styling from what you copied and try and maintain the bolding and the italics. And obviously font color comes along with that. So that's why you have the paste and match style option because then you can undo that. But I think in a lot of cases , people would complain like, why am I just getting text? Why don't I get all the formatting and the layout? They think they're being helpful . Yep , yep Yeah, it's funny. I'm noticing that I am just like doing that keystroke for pace and match style constantly. Like I'm kind of my default. I am tempted to use like keyboard shortcuts or keyboard mice for public keyboard shortcuts to swap the two camp. Yeah. And absolutely you would want that to be the default. Command V is past e and match style and then I can do the hokey pokey to inherit the style. Yeah, you absolutely could. . It only drives you life. It only drive you baddy when you have like we use a project management software at work and it's web based , but they have an app , quote unquote , which is just the typical we're going to wrap the we're going to wrap the website in a stand alone, you know , well web kit safari browser thing. Sure. So in that case , their pace and match style is just command shift V command shift v ause it's a web app. It's not a ries meaty because I'll do command shift command option shift v and it does something weird and I'm like yeah this one this one exception is command shift feet. Yeah . All right, well, I thought that was going to be a quick one. And I guess in relation to Doug's question, we answered them pretty quickly. Yeah . I am going to take us on a bit I'm going to start a conversation here . We've talked because you mentioned contacts, Pete, we've talked about how contacts for many of us , not all of us super slow on our Macs, right? And where you notice if you have this problem, where you would notice it is certainly if you're in the contacts app ed ing a contit . You know, as soon as you make that edit, you see your CPU's go like a hundred percent across the board for ten seconds, which is just preposterous . The other place where I see it doing anything with contacts inside of like an app that taps into it like messages, right? Same kind of thing . Okay. Right. You know, you go to edit a contact or add a contact or add a phone number to a contact and you know, things just peg I listener Mark wrote in and had worked with Gemini on this and I think in one of the episodes I had sort of mused that maybe there's like maybe the SQL database isn't as optimized as it could be. It's a it's a SQL light database actually. And maybe there's a way to optimize it. And so he had Gemini go through and like talk about optimizing this database, which I'm sure would optimize the database. But as I was looking through it, it's like, this seems awfully dangerous because we're doing things to a live open database that's not meant to be accessed by two things at once. Like is this really the right thing? So I started digging in and I found out what the issue is. And yes, it's related to the database . No , it's not related to the indexing of the database . And I'm going to put I'll put a path to a file that's like in your library home like your home lib,rary applic,ation support , address book, sources folder , right ? And there's a UID in it that's unique to all of our systems because that's what a UID is. So you kind of have to suss it out and find it for yourself. That , I dug and we started we, I say me and Claudcode, started digging into what's in this file What we found out is that file was maintaining years , perhaps decades worth of sync history in it. So every time yes , right . And so every time it did a sync with iCloud , it was adding a record to the database, which on the surface sounds like a good idea maybe . What I wound up doing step one always as you said, Pete, backup and contacts makes it really easy to do backu ap. You just go into the file menu and do export contacts archive . Then I turned off iCloud sync for contacts . And it'll ask. Do you want to like keep your contacts on your local Mac ? And the answer is yes. It'll take a minute. Okay, yes, yes, yes. You want your local contacts there. Okay, it'll take a minute to kind of like extract itself make sure it has it all. Correct . And then I turned iCloud sync back on and this file went from one hundred fifty megabytes down to five . I'm sure I'm going to have to do it again, but if I if I do it once a year even I probably won't hit this limit that you know where I notice it getting inefficient . So I'm going to make some scripts to do this so that I can do it regularly without having to like re engineer the process and then I'm going to share these scripts so that we all can do this do this but like and really I guess the scripts, I mean the there's the process I've already given it. You don't need a script to do that. But the scripts would be to see what the size is and see how much of this junk is in there and knowing so you can see before and after did it make a difference. You can look at this file on your computer. I'll put the link in the path is in the show notes , but yeah. So do you think notes is doing the same thing? Is that the is that where you were going when I asked about notes earlier? So pre show not related to this. Pete asked about notes and I think perhaps yes, but okay we don't know . So I don't want to say that. I'm saying perhaps it's a definite maybe . Yes . It could . It stands to reason that it could How many how many of these sources things are you supposed to have ? Let's say that again . So the path you gave was sorry, lie excuse me . I don't know . You would have one, I believe there would be one unique ID per contact s per account that you would have. So you would have one for your iCloud contacts, you would have one for your like if you ever signed like had Google Contacts or an exchange contacts database or any of those things, that's my understanding of this. So yeah, Adam's talking about how many entries in home library application support, address book sources would one expect to have ? I have a ton is why I'm asking and I'm looking at this file in each one and not a single one of them is an open ed, modified or updated recently. I'm a little confused by Oh well here's one . This one was june ninet eenth . Okay , so I guess that's the current one, maybe. I just opened contacts though or I just booked that I haven't done any modifications so maybe that's the current one. Sure, fourteen point eight megabytes. Yep . All these ones, I'm just wondering if these are all old ones that are just left over . Possibly . Yeah . I certainly so on this computer I have two and one is updated today and one is dated twenty twenty three . So looking at the sizes of these old The old one is zero bytes and the current one is sixty four megabytes, so probably experiencing some version of the same thing on this computer. I did this on my laptop. I haven't done it on my other Macs yet, but it like I can say definitively after a week of having this having done this on my laptop , it made a huge difference in terms of responsiveness of contacts. I think anything that's synced with iCloud any Apple database that's synced with iCloud will likely suffer from this or because you know in the theory they're sharing a code base, right? So contacts definitely calendars, notes would be the other ones to look at and the way and and, you know, the the way to test it is figure out where that database lives. That's that's kind of the the part that I'm going to look into here just building a script so that we can see it . And then and then, you know, you just back it up , back it up , make sure you back it up and then turn off iCloud Sync, wait for it to, you know, on that one thing, you know, I'm not turning off iCloud and mass. I'm just , you know, surgical strike. I'm going in and turning off for this example, I turned it off with context and it absolutely made a difference. Like unequivocally . I don't know we have to do this on our own, but you know you would presume an Apple developer , like several of them have experienced this, but alas really weird. Yep . Yep . So yep, that's that's my story. I'm sticking to it. And I will stick with this. Like I will make those scripts and depending on where it makes sense to release them, maybe there maybe there's something to publish to homebrew there. Maybe there's something else, I don't know, you know, but getting something out of it where I could , you know, say , you have this many hundreds of thousands of these entries, go ahead and clean it up, you know, kind of coming up with a with a thing . So all right, I believe I have lost my two co hosts who are now digging into this on their own max. So I wanted to know what these files were. So I was looking at the I was looking at the No, the database file in base, the MySQL light data. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's in these things. What's in these things? No, I would like to I would like to know that answer too. Sorry. No, I don't have to do it now though. We can move along. No, but this would be like that's part of why I wanted to start having this conversation was to open it up to the audience obviously, but also, you know, to get your insights on it because yeah, I didn't even think about looking at it in that way. All right. Well, I wanted to know why I have eleven of them. And then I did look at your accounts theory. I do have ten different accounts set up , but none of them are syncing contacts or they're not supposed to be. So I don't know if these were old and they were sinking at one point. And then when I inactivated them, it never deleted them. So sign up digging. I don't think this sources folder is only for things that are sinking , I think it is for any contacts you've had. Like it will be there either way . I believe again, like I, you know, I didn't write Mac OS so like , you know, don't don't come at me . All right . No, but we have time for a cool stuff founder too. And Adam, you said you had a cool stuff found for all of us to share. Yeah, I think I mentioned I had gone to nerd t acular and this was a book recommendation that came out of one of their podcasts The Morning Stream, which is their like morning show that Brian Ebbitt and Scott Johnson does. They have and I'm going to forget the name of the woman who comes on and does the book stuff, but she comes on and does book stuff. And apparently this has been a huge thing for a while now. There's a book series called Dungeon Crawler Carl by Matt Dinaman . Okay ? It is the funkiest like concept . So it's a mashup without giving anything away because I don't want to spoil it, but it's basically a mashup of post apocalyptic alien invasion , dungeons and dragons, and reality TV show and plot paper from every corner of the nerdom universe . Yes. And I started reading it and I am just jamming through it. It is so entertaining. It's a very, very easy fun, read. So if you're into sci fi, if you're into Netrogs and Dragons, if you're into reality television, if you're into any of these things , I'm told, although it hasn't gotten there yet, I'm told it does get a little crass and vulgar at tim es so it's not for children sure. Okay , but te, you know, older teens and adults and stuff like that. But it's just a super fun read and I'm just enjoying it. I think there's like seven books now or something like that. I was going to say it looks like there's as I'm as I'm looking at all of this, it looks like there's now seven books currently . I do need to do a don't get caught related to this If you want it on audiobook or digital , I believe at least in the United States there's an exclusive agreement with Amazon . So do not get it any other place than Amazon because you can find this on Apple Books and it will look like it's the English version . There is not a single English version. So if you download it, you will end up with Italian or German or some other thing, there's a lot of people complaining about it because they show the English cover and art and stuff like that and it will say there'll be a little icon there that'll say DE or IT or whatever, but people don't notice it and then they have buy. So do not buy it on Apple Books. Okay. That's my warning to you. Do not get it on Apple books. And is this a graphic novel at on? No, no. Okay . It's just a regular novel. All right. Okay. I feel like there might be a graphic novel version there as well. Yeah. There's probably a yeah, there's a ton of them. And I know a lot of people are just doing the audio book , like, so but it's excellent. It's a really, really fun series and I'm enjoying getting into it. But apparently it's been around for a long time. I'm just finding out about it now. There might be eight of them, Adam , as I'm as I'm looking here . Yeah , but yeah, fun . Cool . I will note that your recommendation reminds me of when I was at Macstock , I think it was the first Mac Stock . And I think it was listener, Matt . We wound up eating barbecue together and he told me about this book that he was super into at the time called Ready Player One , right? Right? And it was the first I'd heard of it and I went and got the book and I read it and I was like, oh my god, like how did my world exist without , you know, without knowing about this. And so this is, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, just so yep, I always listen to these recommendations . So yeah . And speaking of that finally when there's there's a whole rush thing the band relationship with the band rush and Ready Player One, there's a whole scene that happens there . And when I went to see the movie, I thought, oh, this is going to be amazing. I get to see like the cave from twenty one twelve like realized on screen because you know it's there. They completely changed all of the quests in the movie and you don't get that at all. It's not even mentioned, let alone realized on screen. And I was super pleased when I saw the movie. My whole family was pissed . And then when my son and I were in Los Angeles , the second night, Rush played all of twenty one twelve. And what did they put on the screen but the cave? It was like finally we get to see the cave . So anyway , there we go. All right , we have we have things to do so and so do you. So we'll call it there. Thanks for hanging out with us everybody . Indeed . Yeah, good stuff, fun. We've got plenty more, so we'll have to do this again next week guys. That's the alright, that's the thing we have to. We I mean, I don't I don't know that there's any other choice . Thanks to all of you for listening. Thanks to all of our premium subscribers for all of your direct support. You can learn about that at Mackeb. com slash premium . Thanks to Cashfly for providing all the bandwidth to get the show from us to you . Check out Adam's debut film podcast Pete's. So there I was podcast and my business brain and gigab podcast if you need more from us and CarPlay is in the MacGit Gab IOS app now. So you can get that in the app store. It's out free, of course . And yeah, you can listen to MacEvin Carplay. You can watch video of Mackey Kevin in the app too, not in CarPlay . Like 'cause you know, that's dangerous . But yeah, stop . Yeah , yeah. But in IOS twenty seven, we can add that when the car is parked. So we will. Yeah, why not? All right I don't know. What do you what do you what do you have to add, Adam? Well , if you do try to watch a video on your car play while driving, you definitely would have this happen to you, but I would say don't because you want to don't get caught Maya See you later

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