New iPhone Recovery Mode Features

It's time for MacGeekab and listener Heidi brings us our quick tip of the week saying I like to use checklists in the task management app things because of the flexibility to reorder items. However, I kept running into a problem that I've seen in other apps too. Whenever I copied a checklist out of things and pasted it into something else, every line started with unwanted characters, like two square brackets. I've seen this a lot. I see it when I copy out of not es. Paste and match style didn't help . The characters were still there. The fix turned out to be rectangular selection . You paste the check checklist into an app that supports rectangular select ion, which would be like text edit on your Mac, right? But word, BB Edit, VS code all support it too. Then you hold down both option and command and now you drag to make a rectang ular selection that starts and includes either before or after the checkboxes. You can kind of do this either way . If you make a rectangular selection, the idea behind the rectangular selection is you are literally selecting the text , but you don't have to do it line by line. The rectangle actually works. And this is the magic of holding down option and command . And Heidi says, select the text that you want, leaving the stuff out, then copy and paste it into wherever you want. You could do the opposite too. You can select the text you don't want, and once it's highlighted, hit the delete key and it all goes away together. It's this like multi select kind of thing. Very cool. I recommend you try it out and I think you're going to really like it. More quick tips like this, plus your questions answered today on Matt Geek of eleven, forty six for Monday, june fifteenth , take your cat to work day twenty twenty six Greetings folks and welcome to back Heat Gab the Show where you send in quick tips like that and we share them. 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We'll talk more about them , ye,ah not more of them , just more about them in a little bit for now, back here in Durham, New Hampshire, I'm Dave Hamilton . And here in Salt Lake City, Utah, I'm Adam Christensen. And here also in New Hampshire, it's pilot Pete on Take your Cat to Workday if every day you work from home every day is take your cat to work day, not necessarily to be confused with Leave your cat at work day . Don't do that. Don' s right. Well, that's that's true if you don't have a separate office and a separate building in your where you live. Like I do. Yeah. I don't carry the cat to work. I did that with one of them. I have the same kind of setup at him and I did that with one of my cats , but he was the only one that I did that with. And I don't know why I didn't resume doing that , but I didn't. So I have their I tried it and the cat just kind of got in the way. Yeah, I could see that. Yeah, yeah. I got to take this down rabbit home. I'm sorry. I got to tell. I don't think I've ever told this story. Anybody ever. I was in the first place. Get your hand out of in front of your mouth. You're gonna tell us a story. And I brought our cat, I brought her family cat to school with me in first grade for show and tell , and she escaped and was gone and no one could find her. Oh wow, everyone, where's the cat? And I neglected to mention that I might know that she was gone and no one else did. And about six days later Kitty showed up at home. They have an amazing homing capability. Wow . Yeah. I mean, it was a good three quarters of a mile or a mile to school. And wow. Yeah . That's impressive. So yeah, Miss Kitty made it home and none was the wiser and I never told my mom. Now she knows. Now she knows. That's my told your mom . I love AMAKICAB confessionals folks. Yeah, that's right . I don't know what's more disturbing that Pete never told his mom or that his mom didn't notice the cat was missing for three days. Oh no, they noticed and they were asking , I just never volunteered any information additional. Oh, about you knew why the cat escaped? Yes. I knew why the was gone. Why the cat escaped ? I didn't know where it was 'cause she escaped. Right. I couldn't catch her. Well, hey no , that's right . That's right . It's so I don't even know how to transition this here. So I'm going to share quickly our monthly no, I'm going to share our monthly giveaway first at Mackeykub. com slash giveaway where you can win a license to Sainbach. So make sure to go check that out . And also this comes out on the fifteenth as is typical we're recording it early and we happen to be recording it on Friday the twelfth . Saturday the thirteenth or perhaps the right language is will have been our twenty our twenty first anniversary of doing this show. So it's my twenty first anniversary podcasting. Adam, it's your exactly twenty first and a half anniversary podcasting because somehow you started mac Cast in was it December One no? December thirteenth, twenty two thousand four, yes. Yeah. Yeah, right. So there you go. That's that's our that's your yeah, your twenty first and a half birthday podcasting. Yeah. So Macikab is old enough to have an adult beverage here in the United States . That's right. Yeah. I'm going to opt not for that because it's nine thirteen AM and I've got a long day ahead of me, so I'm going to stick with throat coat tea. But yeah, cheers guys. Really? Yeah , that's it. Woo hoo . All right. I guess we go back to quick tips. Yeah, let's do it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So I have one from Dan and says I found in my family that not everyone knew that you can charge via your USB port this would be on your MacBook Pros and MacBook Airs and MacBooks and all that sort of thing . Anyone with a recent MacBook with a MagSafe connector might need to hear that so they can also use USB C ports to charge . Also, after about a year of use, I am still very impressed with the battery management app called Aldente. So bonus you get a cool stuff found in this one . Our MacBook Air sits around most of the time so the app's ability to reduce the number of battery cycles is impressive. I have it set on sale mode to eighty percent only on the main user. Running it on tissues didn't work very well . Yeah , the somebody's alarm's going off. I think it's sorry that was me. No, I it think's's on RN. That the only reason I mentioned it. It's because it was in the background enough that someone listening might think, oh , it wasn't you. Folks, it was Adam. Yeah. Yeah, app Dente is one we've mentioned before and yes we have. It does some things with a little more granular control than what Apple currently allows you to do . And it's actually very easy to kind of put it all together . So yeah, I use it on Lisa's computer for sure . Yeah , that's great. Joe from Raleigh mentioned it in November of twenty three. That's how good spotlight is. That's pretty good for spotlight. That's good. I also ran into this this week with someone with a Windows machine that had like a I'm like, can you charge via USB and they're like, now it's just a custom thing. And I look at the side of the computer and I'm like, let's try and plugged it in. And sure enough, it was like, oh my gosh, it's charging. It's like, yeah, there you go. So yeah, I know it's one of it's a perfect quick tip, right? It's obvious to those of us that have already learned to do it. Yeah . And that's that. So yeah, good stuff. All right, more I got more on charging. Okay, you guys are ready ? Chris says on episode eleven forty three, the topic of charging devices from random USB ports came up and I wanted to add my quick suggestion on the topic. I travel frequently for work and I carry a number of devices that require USB charging. I am quite paranoid about the security and therefore I'm always wary of using random charging ports at airports on planes and taxis and a multitude of other places where a malicious actor might be fishing for easy targets. My solution is to always carry a power bank . I have no data on the power bank, so I make sure to top it up at every opportunity I have from these charging points , then use the power bank in my briefcase to charge my phone, AirPods, MacBook, iPad, etc while being free to walk around and get to where I need to be. Sometimes I'm feeling like taking a bit of a ris k, I might even connect or if I'm feeling like taking a bit of a risk, I might even connect my phone to the power bank while it's charging and I trust that the electronics inside the power bank are not fancy enough to let the data through. I have tested this with my MacBook and can confirm that the iPhone is not recognized as a connected device when connected to a power bank which in turn is being charged from the Mac USB C port. What is your opinion ? Could this be a quick tip? Well, it is now, or am I completely out to lunch? Love the show . Thanks, keep up the brilliant work. Regards from Malta, Chris . That's brilliant . Like that's that way you don't have to think about carrying a like a you know, a data data killer or whatever. Yeah, yeah power only cord Yeah power only cord or any of that stuff, you just put that in between. And you could you can have them both in between, like you could have it. You could charge your laptop at the same time you're charging the power break, right? Like you could do it all at the same time. Yeah . I like it. Smart. That's see that's thinking. I like it . All right , Phil . Yeah, I can take this to Phil, but I just want to mention that Craig who has been listening for fifteen years now knows what we look like because this is his first time watching live. He put it in the comments. Oh wow. . So see, Craig. You can watch the live stream too . If you go to MacECab. com slash calendar it will you can subscribe to when we are doing the live stream and then you can watch the live stream . You can't watch the live stream in the app, but the app will give you a link to watch the live stream. And that's because we stream to YouTube only and YouTube doesn't allow you to kind of grab that video. But anyway, I'm down a rabbit hole. You can say if there were a professional coder doing that app, maybe no, it's terms of service. No, yeah, right. Well, come on, man, let me bust your job, Steve. Club 's pretty good at sussing things out. I actually speaking of professional coders, yeah, right. I ran into a thing just yesterday the first day I was using Fable , which is the layer that Claude put in front of Mythos, their new model, or anthropic put in front of Mythos, their new model , to keep it from letting Mythos is in the estimation of many people , too powerful for things like hacking and like weapons building and I don't know, like other things, right? So they've put a filter layer in the front that kind of keeps an eye on it and says you've gone over the line. I did not intentionally go over the line, but I was looking to pull data from an API and in a piece of code, not with the MacICAB app, but another like internal in house thing and it was like, yeah, the API won't pull this. It's like just log into the webpage and I'll see if I can grab it and essentially scrape it from the web page. And it totally did. Like it figured out that this company has their own sort of internal API that their web page uses. And it was like, this is great because I can pull this data and there's no rate limits and you can get everything that you want. You don't have to pay a subscription fee and get started like going nuts and it figured it all out and put it in the note that like the memory note that it was building. And then when it was all finished, it came up and said , We've throttled you down from Fable to Opus because we believe that this chat has gone over the line of this just like, wow , I see what they mean now. Like you know, I didn't even I didn't even I was just I just asked it to solve a problem and it solved it . Like that was the thing and then and then it realized oh I fear I've gone too far and I was like you,'ve No g,one just far enough. This is perfect. We'll do it that way. That sounds great. Yeah. Yeah, it was really it was interesting because like I said, I wasn't I wasn't looking to , you know, to be that guy. Did it then take the information away from you, Dave? It did not . No. No , no, so and I was able to flip back to using fable again. So like yeah, I don't know. Maybe it stopped before it went even further . I don't like I think that's what it was doing like I don't know what I don't know, right? So yeah, right here . Yeah . So one more one more thing on the the schedule. Zoe Brings Bacon told me here at the conference that I'm at that she likes to use the app for the schedule of when we're live streaming. Yes . Download the app folks if you want to know when we're we're going to be doing our thing . Yes, that 's actually that's a great way to do it because then you get notifications and all that stuff. Yeah. Mackeb Mackebab app is at Mackeep. com slash app . Yeah , so yeah, good stuff. And you're at a conference atom while we're talking here. Which conference is ? Yes, sir. I am at a Nerd conference, the Conference of Nerds known as Nerd tacular, I'm not sure if there's going to be another one. This could be the very last one. It went for a long, long time and then it got paused for COVID and then they kind of did a different thing in Vegas for a number of years. So it's Frog Pants Studios , which is Scott Johnson's podcast network. They have all kinds of shows about video games and movies and nerd culture and Brian Ibid does a show with him called The Morning Stream. That's just all nerd culture stuff. And so they've been doing this conference for like forever. And it's just a celebration of all things geek, you know, tech and gaming and board gaming. There's a giant board game room with tons of board games and it's just like a big hangout show and they do a bunch of live podcasts and they do trivia stuff and it's just a blast. It's just a bunch of people who just all nerd out on stuff in one of the most open welcoming conferences I think I've ever been at. That's awesome Yeah, cool . Cool . Speaking of conferences in about a month , two of us I'll let you guess which two be at Mac Stock which is also could be similarly described as a big hangout. Yes, there there are are great sessions. I'm actually doing a session this year, but really like we go to see each other and and hang. Yeah . Yeah, it's great. It did it again. I see that. It's nine minutes ago. You snoozed. You snoozed. You meant to turn it. You snoozed. We won. Sorry about that. Yeah, I and I almost someone here reminded me oh, I think it was Barry . Barry reminded me. David Pogue is there this year. David Pogue is speaking Friday night at Mac Stock. That's right. Yeah, yes . I think we have a discount link for Mac Stock . And I will make sure it's in the show notes when it goes live. So yes , hangs tight. There's a coupon code. I just I always forget that we have this. And so my apologies , but I will make sure it's in the show notes when it goes live. I don't want to misspeak and guess my guess, though, I.'m gonna do it Aren't I? My guess is my guess is it's Matt Gi Gab, but we'll figure that out . Yeah, all right. So I would love to be there, but it's a big birthday I cannot miss. So that's hey that's later. Yeah. I still got to book flights. I realized as we're talking about it, like it's literally a month away and I don't know how I'm getting there. So I'm not allowed to take Pete's plane if Pete's not in it , so I'm not gonna swing around and be on you either, Dave . What's that, Pete? So I'd take you, but I think I'm gonna be on the high seas shortly after that. So it's all before that or it's whatever. Yeah, yeah. Anyway, how about I take us back to Quick Tips? Phil wrote in. He wanted to save a document as a PDF on his iPhone, but couldn't figure out how originally because it only had a print icon. He says I had phones there it is. I had a set of documents on my phone. I wanted to save his PDFs. The app I was using didn't show me the normal share arrow, only a print icon. At first I thought IOS didn't offer a PDF option in the print dialog like you get on MacOS , then I found the trick. In the print screen there are thumbnail images of each page. And by the way, you can check and uncheck those if you want to print only certain pages . So do a quick tip there. If you zoom in on those thumbnails with the two finger pinch out gesture, the spread out maneuver, however you want to call it, it opens the full page preview. From there , the share arrow appears along with the options to open PDF in preview or save it to files. And from there I could save the PDF to files. So it's easy once you know that you can do that by zooming in on the thumbnails . So great . That's a great little trick . Yeah, it's that getting it into that pinch move, right? That gets you to the place where it like now it's it's a PDF that you're previewing and you can go do the things with the share and all that st uff. Yeah . Yeah , yep. Cool. Yeah, great. Love that . Love that . Your Mac stock coupon is MacGeek Gab . It saves you fifty bucks . So there you go. I figured it out. Yep . All right , are we moving on? Is there more to talk about with Phil's tip therapy? I don't think so. Okay . Yeah, yeah. That's one of those print and then share. Print, print and share. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, why does that remind me of something with Windows? There was like a print and share, I don't know, there was something. Anyway , we were talking in the last episode tail scale and exit nodes. And Pete , you said, well, you could use your iPhone as an exit node. And he said Pete, that's preposterous or something similar because why would like no you can't ignorant? Yeah, I kind of did. So I owe you an apology for that slip that slip. Wow, I almost said it. I really almost did. Heat you ignorant slip. Yeah , I almost said it anyway , because as Dom Donald sorry points out you can now use your iPhone as a tailscale exit node. It is in the tail sca le app and you can turn it on, but it says running an exit node will severely impact battery life on a metered data plan. Significant cellular charges may also apply. Always disable this feature when no longer needed . Like it couldn't warn you more. Maybe it could, but it would be annoying. So yeah, so you can absolutely run your iPhone as a tailscale exit note and thanks to Donald and everybody who made sure that we got that right. So yeah, yeah, sorry about that, Pete. I made an assumption based on prior information that it would never change. And boy, howdy, is that a dangerous thing to do? So yep. What? Now I'm going to ask an ignorant question . Adam, you ignorant slip . Exactly . What is an exit node used for great questions Yeah. Yeah. So quickly, tail scale is a piece of software that when you run it, and I'm going to be over I'm going to oversimpl ify here folks . All the devices that you run it on. You can run it on your Macs, your iPhones, your iPads, your Apple TV's, your Linux servers, all of the things, right? As soon as you run tailscale on those devices and log it into your account, all of those devices are connected to what they call your tail net . And all of those devices can see each other no matter what network they're on. It's like you've created your own little land. Like just like your devices can all see each other when they're at home on your same Wi Fi , they can see each other all over the planet when they are on your tailnet . And there's there's other things that you can do to expose other devices that don't have those, but it's such a but that's the general gist of tailscale. And I love it for that reason alone because when I'm traveling, I can connect to my servers at my house without having to VPN in, right? I mean, it's essentially creating this VPN. It uses Wireguard at the core for anybody who wants to get nerdy. But it's this kind of very simple VPN and it stays out of the way for the most part when you aren't trying to connect to those devices and when you do, they're just right there. It's like just like your home. Awesome . Now, once you are connected to your tail net, you can choose to set up certain devices as exit nodes . And what those will do is those will then route traffic through them if you choose to do that, right? So normally if I'm in a hotel room and I'm connected to my tailnet , when I go out to the internet, I'm going to the internet via the hotel's network, right? The only time my tailnet is used is when I'm trying to connect to one of my own devices . But if I turn on an exit node, now it's like I'm VPN through that device. And the hotel , it's a secure tunnel just like another VPN, but you're essentially running your own VPN . And if I were in a hotel in say or an Airbnb in Los Angeles like I was this past week , I would if I connected to your server Adam, you would see me coming from Los Angeles. If I turned on my exit node, from a device that's at my home, you would think I was in New Hampshire. You would see an IP address from New Hampshire. It would tunnel through that. So the exit , do you need to be running an exit node on ends ? No okay. The exit node is only run on the quote unquote server end, right? So in my example , the exit node would be running on a device in my say my office in New Hampshire , right? And then I would use my phone as the client to connect to that exit node and tunnel out through it. So in that scenario, the phone is not the exit node. It is just the client using another device as an exit node. You can then select, yeah, I want to use the exit node or I don't. You don't have to, but you can go into exit nodes and select it. Like I have two Apple TV's and my server running as an exit node . And then the other cool thing about this is you use tail scale subnets. I think stop stop, stop . Stop stop, stop. I just want to stay on topic. Does that answer your question, Adam? Yes, and but there's so the reason I asked, there was a reason I asked because I wanted to understand this is The iPhone could an iPhone therefore then be repurposed and it sounds like yes on your home network connected to power through WiFi as an exit node. Yes. So it seems like a perfect so where now you don't have to worry about cellular data or all that other stuff. You can just repurpose a device as an exit node. You know, a lot of people have old lifes lying around . And that's where the conversation I think maybe we had this conversation after you left last week because that's exactly no, this is great. This ties it all together . That's exactly where this came up as we were talking about old for uses for an old iPad and Pete said , you know, an iPad or an iPhone can be an exit note and I'm like, I don't think so Pete. Well, it turns out Dave was wrong. Pete was right . So yes, you are exactly right . Now even a blind squirrel. Tell us about tell us about subnet routing. So yeah, if you hit the dare I think it's I think it's the subnet checkbox that I had to hit to select that allows me so that no matter where I am , the tailnet gives you IP addresses and you go and go see my devices and it gives you all these your tailnet IP addresses . But if you check US the tailnet sub nets then now my ver at one ninety two. one hundred sixty eight. one. three is my server from all over the world as if I'm home . So I don't have to remember all the tailnet IP addresses. I just know where that server is . Right. So that's kind of the this is the part I glossed over before. So the when you turn if you have a device on a network , doesn't have to be your home network, but for the sake of this, let's say that that's where it is . And in when I explained it initially, and this is true that when you set up tailscale by default devices on your tailnet that are logged into your tailscale account. That those two mean the same thing will be able to see other devices that are logged into your tailscale account that are on your tail net and only devices that are logged into your Tailnet. However, as Pete says correctly , if on one of those devices, let's say I tell my Mac Mini to be a subnet router for Tailn et . Now that device allows any device on my tailnet to see any device on that Mac Mini's local network. So it becomes this sort of LAN advertis er, right? So it's not quite an exit node, but it's this thing that lets you see devices that aren't able to log into Tailscale or aren't logged into Tailscale, whether they're able to or not. Yeah, got it.. Yeah Yeah. Good , no, it's very like, and I think we should probably stop there because otherwise we could do an hour of tailscale. Like there's there's so many other features. They have a tail like they have like a drive thing that you can do that's a whole thing. But we have WWC stuff to talk about, so we'll get through quick tips and then we'll do that. So yeah, yeah, no, that's good stuff. All right . Dom . Right, Adam? Dom. Oh, is that me? It is I'm up. You're up. Yes, that's right. Dom. That's right Dom says, I make a lot of audio trans criptions with Mac Whisper, several a day in fact. I was recently noticing that I was low on drive space on my two terabyte internal after running Daisy Disk. I found out why. Mac Whisper doesn' t delete old transcriptions, and I had nearly eight hundred gigabytes of them. Luckily, they make it easy to delete them all in one swell floop . Fail swoop, I think, but I may think he's making a joke and now there's a repeating omnifocus task to go in there and do it every six months and I email and an email off to the developer asking for a new feature . So he think he's looking for some little auto management of his transcripts, probably from that developer . Yeah . Yep, ye,p but it is a feature in the yeah, the auto thing is the feature he asked for. So hopefully yeah, I would assume I'll show it. Yeah, exactly. Yep . Delete after X number of months or something like that. Yeah, exactly, exactly. All right , and then only one note can be moved with this. Well , I need to make a new shortcut then. I did a thing. Somehow duplicate notes Cliff has a tip for us and I will get there . Cliff said I've recently discovered that the Apple Intelligence button in pages has actually become useful. It's a common scenario at home to go find a recipe on the web, but printing them is a pain so we frequently copy the info into pages and manually reformat. Now, hitting the Apple intelligence button and telling it reformat as recipe works . It gives a great result in one step . And we'll talk about this when we kind of talk about the WWC stuff, but the Apple Foundation , I think that's what they're called, the AI model that's currently in the twenty six flavors of our operating systems is limited in utility utility , but one of the things it is great for is summarizing text. It is like it is excellent at that. And so makes sense that doing this recipe thing . Yeah, it's good. In one swell flupe in one swell floo p, that's right . I also noticed a thing I I was in Los Angeles this week as I mentioned with my son seeing Rush. And we'll if for anybody who's interested in a little debrief, I believe the gig gab episode that comes out today will have some of that debrief in it . I'm still coordinating the schedule because it's kind of last minute, but that's okay . It was awesome, though. We had a great time . Great Father Son bonding trip, great concerts. It was all around. Fantastic. On the way back , I wanted to watch the W W C keynote. Like I didn't watch it on Monday because we were traveling . And I thought, well, I should just download it from YouTube. So I used one of those YouTube downloaders and I put it on Plex , you know, I put it in my Plex server so that I could then have it on my iPad . And I don't know, maybe the night before we left, I realized you know , airplane seats aren't terribly wide, and I'm going to want to be taking notes while I watch the keynote. So I think I need to put this video on my Mac so that I can have it in a window on the Mac and then also take notes on the Mac, right? Because I only have an iPad mini and I don't have a keyboard with it, so the Mac was the device. Fine, I thought, no problem. I have the Plex app on the Mac. I downloaded it to the Plex App and we're off to the races. Off to the airport anyway. Mid flight, I decide it's time. I open it up. And because I'm on a flight, my laptop was I put my laptop in low power mode. Plex versus low power mode was not a fun experience. I had to take it right out. Yeah , I don't know exactly what was going on and why , but for whatever reason I was getting video at like, you know, two frames a second. Audio was totally fine, but the video was at two frames a second on low power mode. I could have like watching the keynote, that would have been okay for most of it, right? You know, but there were some things that I actually wanted to see. So I took it out of low power mode it was. using And a lot of C PU. So I don't know size it hit down like did it download the full four K thing? Did it not do a transcode on it? And even then like why would that cause issues with low power mode? But certainly inside Plex it did. I did not have the raw file . I had actually used tailscale to log into a computer here , I think it was this one and downloaded the video to it because that way it was local to my Plex server and had you know high, I spe ed and all that stuff. So yeah , I don't know why, but it was certainly that was certainly the case. So your back was in low power mode and but you didn't download the file to your machine. You were streaming it over airplane WiFi or no, great question. I downloaded it from my I put it on my Plex server and then used the Plex app for the Mac to download the file from my Plex server to my Mac. So it was local. Yeah, it was local on my Mac. But I guess what I was saying is I didn't have the raw file there to say try this in quicktime play er versus Plex player to see if it was just something that Plex player some inefficiency that Apple has coded around that for whatever reason Plex didn't. Like they're usually pretty efficient with things. So am I wrong in believing that low power mode though disengages or lowers the use of the GPU ? I think it does . So could it be that with the trans coding and just what it was doing that it was just like nope, I don't have access to the full GPU, so I'm just going to do the best I can, which would also explain why your CPU usage would probably increase. Yeah . Yeah, yeah. Yeah , I mean, that definitely makes sense . I don't know . It's atypical that I would download a movie to plex on my laptop and watch it. So that could be the first time I've ever done it, especially on that computer. But I used to run in low power mode all the time until I realized how much it slowed certain things down . And so I have to believe that I have watched videos on that machine in low power mode before and I don't know why this time was different . That's all. Okay, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Weird. Yeah, it was weird. 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I mean, I think for me , it was two things well I guess there's all three things that they kind of covered interesting to me for different reas ons . I was really happy just in general, you know, without going into too much detail yet, that on the operating system side across the board , focus on refin ement. You were going to get one of those refinement years, which I'm always really happy about , where it's mostly on making things better, making minor improvements. You know, obviously liquid grass was a huge jump for ward and caused a lot of things that I think people weren't happy about. So it sounds like they listened to a lot of feedback. And so that's always exciting when we get those kind of years . It really surprised me that they had a big focus on parental controls . Like that was a little weird to me. Like, do we really need to spend this much time on a topic that really focused at percentage of the market. Maybe it's bigger than maybe it's bigger than I think, maybe it's a bigger thing. I think it's a good thing. I don't have anything against parental controls and security and that sort of stuff, but it seemed just like an odd topic for a room, you know, a bunch of developers that you're sort of focusing at. And then obviously, I'm sure we'll get into the biggest part of it, which was I was very happy to see the stuff with Siri and AI and Gemini and you know, we knew that was coming, but to get a lot more details about what they're doing and kind of seeing what they demoed was pretty impressive. I agree Let's leave the parental control things for the end . Yeah . But I have thoughts about that and questions too. What did we lose? We might have lost Pete . Yeah, we lost Pete. Okay, I'm back. He might come back. Okay. Great to go grab my notes. Oh, I couldn't find them anywhere. Okay. Great. They had two pages of notes and they're gone. I'm like, Oh, I left them on the table in the other room. All right, sorry. That's okay. What was your kind of do you have anything to add to Adam's summary before we start digging into the specifics . Not a whole lot. I agree with better contrast control on glass. That looks pretty cool. Then let's okay, if we're going to dig into the specifics, let's dig into the specific s, right? . Yeah. So the only other thing I wanted to add was , I think the name is terrible. I'm sorry. I think they've they're asking for trouble with GoldenGate. Just oh, I loved it.. Macup Okay, oh no, think about this. I mean, there's going to be some brand confusion. Obviously we have our team of crack lawyers on this already because now there's two MGGs and there's only room for one MGG out here and MacOS Golden Gate Ain't it. No , right ? But that was my first thought. It was like they really did it. There's now an MGG operating system. So I don't know what the Marines are . Starts with golden, but it doesn't finish with gate. No , I don't know. And that's all I'm saying. So yeah, Golden Gate, I don't know. I mean, it's like whatever. It's MacOS twenty seven. I mean, and nobody really uses the other names anymore, I don't think, right? We've stopped using them , but it yeah and I like used to be two syllables for us . Well and it especially now that everything is like the current version of the operating system is the same number every device. I love that they did that . They rolled everything forward and it's like here we are and we're going to do it based on the year. I love that. And so yes, I really like that that we can just say, you know, twenty seven Apple OS twenty seven, just like we've said Apple OS twenty six, right? And it's it's everything . Yeah . And and I yeah, Pete you were, saying about liquid glass, you had something specific to say about that. Yeah, I think that obviously liquid glass was not a big hit in everybody's book and then they had the , you know, increase contrast. But now with the slider that you can move it to go, oh, I like that. I think that was a brilliant move on their part to give it more granular control I agree. I because I develop I am the lead developer now on two different IOS apps for or at least the person the project coordinator which I, think also makes me the lead developer for our MacIk app and then for another one that we do for one of the other companies. I figured okay, I have to update the beta like much sooner than I normally would. So I installed it . I installed the Dev Beta one on my daily driver iPhone and I know , I know , I know But it like it works fine. I mean , hang on, hang on . I just needed to knock on a lot of wood . But it like I've been very impressed . Yes, there was the initial sort of battery drain thing that happens and it tells you that when you're, you know, in the settings or whatever , but man , I'm impressed. So my seventeen pro is running the Deb Beta one and I have yet to find an app that doesn't work . I was able to take advantage of the wonderful slider , all the things things . So I still have not gotten access to Siri AI, which we'll talk about here in a little bit. I'm on the waitlist for that but otherwise like, yeah, I know I know . I no one is more thrilled than me Adam . So at least you get all the features of the Seri AI, you know, my iPhone sixteen pro made for AI is yeah apparently not made for A I, I guess. Yeah, okay. So like yes, let's let's talk about that. The I so right right. So, so let me make sure I get this right so that we're we're speaking correctly . But I believe it is the seventeen Pro and later are the iPhones, the seventeen pro and then the seventeen SE, right, are the ones that support the new so there's two different models Apple foundation models that run on device and there's this sort of standard and then there's the upgraded one and only the seventeen pro and later get the upgraded one . I am presuming that this is entirely dependent on the amount of RAM that your device has. That's the theory that you need twelve or something like that I think is the minimum. Which kind of if you've run any models on your own devices, which you can do on an iPhone with like locally AI or you can do with Olama, on your Mac. I mean, there's many ways to run open source models or you can just install the software and it will see that you have Apple Foundation model. We have an Apple foundation model in Iowa twenty six too, and you can run that . And but you can choose any other models you want, but it will tell you , hey, if you choose a model that is going to need to require more RAM than you have , it ain't going to be any faster. Like you're not going to get the speed benefits because you're going to be swapping like crazy. The model has to be able to live in RAM. This is why Mac minis with lots of RAM are impossible to come by right now, right? Because people bought them all up or maybe they were, I don't know if they still are. But there was a period of time earlier this year where you couldn't get them . So that was the reason . So I'm guessing that that's the limitation for you is they're giving you as much as your device can hold MinRam. Yeah . One thing I noticed on the developer side that developers now get access to AI models, right ? You can in your app. So like I was thinking about the MacGeek app, right? So let's use this . What if you want a summary of an episode , right? And you have I don't know if you know this, but like in the Mac eCab app, it can see the full transcript of the episode. We publish that in a way that podcast clients can consume it. I mean, you could look at it too as a human. It's just like if go to the episode MP three and changed MP three to VT and you too can read along with a transcript, but it's better to let the app do it because it lines it up and puts it where you want it, you know , but what about taking that and saying, Okay, summarize this section of an episode like summarize, you know, we break it up into chapters. So look at the timestamps, do the thing. We could absolutely do that, right? And we probably will , or at least we'll experiment with it and see what it's like. We'll see if there's some useful ways to use it . And what I found really interesting is that for third party apps , on device model access is free . There is no charge or subscription required or anything like that . Devices that use Apple's private cloud compute is that qualifying developers, my guess is you're going to have to apply it to use it like with a good reason similar to like a the entitlements that we talked about for things like CarPlay or something like that. That's my interpretation is that once you've proven that you have a good reason to use it , you get that also for no API costs , which I find really interest ing. Clearly Apple subsidizing this, right? But I like that they're doing that because it immediately opens up these like creative uses, like whatever a develop er can dream up as long as it gets like, you know, the thumbs up . Now you can do that too. So if I can't, I think we could do the summary on with on device models, like the summary I cooked up in my head just now. Like I think the on device models would be very good at doing that. But if you need to do something that the on device models cannot do, private cloud compute is right there for you . So okay, the free tier applies , as I'm finding , applies to developers in the App Store small business program with fewer than two million first time app store downloads. Okay , so maybe we have to join the small business program. I got to look into that. Okay , great . I think we're still under our two million number there, Adam. So really , really close , but I thought that was really interesting. That's cool. . And then if you want to use like a different third party model and if you want to route to Claude or Gemini, that's a paid path under whatever that provider's terms are. And you as a developer do that or you could probably have it that the user has depending on what your use case is, that the user has to like provide their own API key or OL loOgF in or whate ver that is. Now, am I wrong in understanding that Apple's private cloud thing though is they I mean, they partnered with Google, right? So they're using Gemini on their private cloud, right? Some sort of variant or some sort of like Apple version of it. I believe that's correct. I also believe the on device models are now , you know, Gemini at their core. I got it. Yeah, I don't think I think I think the name Apple Foundation is the only thing that sticks, but I could be wrong about that, but as I understood it, they're all kind of partnered with you. They said they integrated a lot with Gemini. Exactly. We're used, you know, paceably . Didn't say we stole from Gemini ? Yeah. No, no, I'm sure Google's getting a nice big fat check. Yeah Yeah, but I think as I understand it , I don't know anything, but as I understand it, it is far, it's a lot of money and it is far less than what Google pays Apple to have search integrated into the iPhone. Probably . So just given a little bit back. But there were deals there were deals made. There were deals made. Oh, for sure. Yeah , yeah . Yeah . But yeah, I'm I'm eager to see I love that they're that they're enhancing this. I'm I love that Siri AI is as they said a, profoundly more capable assistant and more conversational and all of that . It and I hope and it's true . Yeah, and it, I mean, at some level it is like the dedicated app where you can see the history of your conversations . I love that . We were, of course, for anybody that's listened long listen long enough knows that my son written a palindromic tip calculator in lots of different languages. The first place he wrote it was in wasn't even called shortcuts, it was called workflow before Apple had acquired it, right? And then that's kind of his go to project anytime he learns a new language, right? To do this. And of course, it's evolved over the years and all that stuff. I think the one that I have running on my iPhone now runs JavaScript on my iPhone. But he went and because he put the debt bait on his phone too as he often does . And he went and asked shortcuts or asked Siri to create this shortcut for him and it did parts of it. I don't know if he ever quite got it all the way but it but like he got he got pretty far down the path with no like arranging of blocks in a short in the shortcuts app, which is I love this, right? The idea people being able to kind of vibecode their own things, I think is great and not known like it's to me this is really and it's a it's a baby step but it's the first step to people like that don't consider themselves programmers being able to do some amount of this . Yeah, do they call that some like describe a shortcut or yeah yeah and they're doing the same thing for extensions in safari . That's right. Yeah . Yep. So if you need an extension for something, hey , you know, watch this band page for when you know tickets go on sale and notify me. You could describe that and it would write an extension for you. That would do exactly that. Yeah, it can its update frequency slow . I think maybe that's not the best example . No, you get the point . Yeah, well Lucas and I we went and saw the first two shows of Russia's tour, but the night before we're recording this was show number three and we wanted to be updated anytime we wanted to know because they've been playing different setlists every night. Like they keep some of the same songs, but they keep moving things around and even swapping songs in and out. And so we wanted to know. Like what's going to happen on night three? And he went and wrote the shortc ut and I believe I'm trying to pull it up here Yeah, the frequency can be daily, weekly, or monthly . And it was like we would like by the minute like that sounds good. Like that would be enough. We're willing to go that , you know, it not everything, but but yes, these are steps and I love it. Yeah . So yeah , it's it my gut in watching the keynote was that all of these seri updates brought us to where like Chat GPT was in terms of functionality , probably smarter than where Chat GPT was two years ago, but in terms of functionality, it's we get a chat bot out of Syria , a fully functional chat bot using today's models . And that's great. But like, well , go ahead. Yeah, I was going to say that I mean, for me, the bigger, the bigger part of it is what we should have had so long ago. That's serious. Which is the contextual awareness of all my things that are on my computer, that are Apple things like, that it knows my contacts and it knows my calendar and it knows my notes and it knows my email and it knows all of that stuff . My biggest pet peeve was how long I guess it took until twenty twenty six that I'm finally going to be able to say, Hey, S lady , what time is my meeting today ? And it will be able to actually just tell me it won't say I can't show you that in the car . Right . Like you know my you know my calendar and I don't need to give you a bunch of information. I don't need to say what time is my specific name of meeting happening today you know like, at two o'clock today. What time are my meetings today? You know, like it's simple thing. And maybe it can do it now. I don't know, I tried it a long time ago, but I don't I still don't think she does. But once now she could connect things together and hey , you know, what time is that meeting I'm supposed to have today? And she goes, looks at my calendar and it's not there. And now knows to go, well, let me go look in your email. Oh, there's there's the notification and email. Oh, I found this in your email or whatever it might be. You know, it's like, would you like me to add it to your account? Just the conversational awareness, the awareness of all my stuff is going to be a huge change for us. And I know people on other platforms are going like that five years ago. Yeah welcome to Welcome to the future. As soccer hallways in our live chat points out this is the cost of privacy . I get it that we have to be able to run these models locally to be able to do that and still keep our data hours, right? So like but the thing is even Apple users many I would probably say most, but I haven't done anything official , you know, obviously on this. But I would say most Apple users and I could be wrong about most, would completely are completely willing to trade that level of privacy for that level of convenience. And that's where I think a lot of the frustration comes in is like, yes, thank you for protecting our privacy, but you're protecting it too much. Give us the choice, right? You know , and I think that's what privacy is all about is the choice. So but that is the cost. That's why we're that's why we are where we are. I just always felt like wonder sorry, go ahead, beat. I was just saying I have to wonder how much of that is involved in meeting like government standards and military standards because I know people in the military that have to have, you know, their device on a military network and then therefore the privacy becomes a huge issue. I don't think I don't think that's the reason. I don't mean if it were Apple would have said it because no other no other vendor is locking themselves in like this for everyone . You can certainly turn off features for those devices that need to be used by the military, right? Like you know, if you have a thing, turn it off and then you're fine, right? But and that happens all the time on Android and on iOS . There are certain features like on like Macs that are sold in some of those places don't have cameras, right? Like there was a period of time. I don't know if that's the case anymore but yeah because I just know that when I left active duty that, really was n't a thing. And watching my daughter log into the military network. It is a hoop after hoop after hoop to get it done, but you know, the Apple seems to do it just fine, but it's still multi step . So yeah, , I don't think I don't think that I think it's that they want to be able to say we are the company that protects yes and I get that. I like that for them to a point, but it's been it's hurt them significantly severely Yeah , yeah . I but again the cost of privacy, right? Like we have we have chat GPT, we have the Seri equivalent to chat GPT the chat bot or clawed the chat bot from two years ago. What we don't have is co work , right? Series building spreadsheets for me on my Mac and all of those things. And anyone who is fully leveraging AI for their quote unquote normal work, right ? Like not developers , not people that are super nerds, but people like we have everybody at Backbeat leveraging Claude Cowork now for the for like building spreadsheets for the grunt work or as David Sparks likes to say the donkey work, right? Like it's doing all of that for us and like it must if we choose not to do we could choose not to do that and you can choose not to do it too . And I just want to make sure everybody's choosing it eyes wide open, right? Like there's nothing wrong with either choice , but knowing that if you're choosing not to do that , you are actively giving this tool to your competition and not using it for yourself . And that's fine, as long as you know that's what's happening, right? So yeah, yeah. Yeah. My work is basically requiring it. It's just a mandate same kind of thing. It's like, you need to start to learn how to use these tools. You need to start using them. We have, you know, goals for each person to meet related to AI now because it's exactly what you're saying, Dave, like you're not going to be able to compete if you're not doing it because all your competitors are in time savings and the efficiencies that you gain are just too great . Yes . Yeah. And it's fairly easy to learn how to do. You in fact really my advice to anybody that hasn't done it is the next time you need to build a spreadsheet for something , fire up claud cowork and fumble through it. Just tell it what you want to do and it'll walk you through it from there and then you'll get better at it. Way , way better at it. The first time's the hardest time, right? You know, so I mean, even simple things, like I was tasked, one of the tasks I really hate is I had to do interviews , you know, for some new hires and stuff like that. And it's like, well , I used it to help formulate, you know, interview questions. And I just kind of gave it the kind of requirements. I fed it like , you know, the job posting. It's like okay, this is what we're looking for . And then he gave us some other information about, you know, what we do on a daily basis and just stuff from my knowledge. And I'm doing a more technical interview. So it's like we need to focus on AB and C and help me write some interview questions. We had a little back and forth and within probably you know five, ten minutes, I had five really good interview questions with follow ups and I used them and it worked great. And then after that I took my notes and I fed that in and then used that to generate the summary that I had to deliver to my HR people to say, this is what I think about this person and this is where their strengths and weaknesses are and all that stuff. And it was like, that stuff I used to dread. It would take me hours in the past and I'd like had it done in a quarter of the time probably. Yeah, I 've said this on Business Brand. I actually think I said it on Gigib two , that I think the current use , the way we're all the way most of us are able to currently use AI , I think we're using the wrong words to fill the acronym or the initials of AI because artificial intelligence is not the way I think of or use it. I use assistive intelligence. It is a fantastic collaborator and just what you described Adam like that was your like you drove that process. You just had it do the grunt work part of it and then you didn't like a few of the things and so you tweaked with it. Like that's that's the like that's your work assisted by this thing and I love it. Yeah. Well, that's where and that's and that's what's great is that's where you start and then you have things like you can , you know, have the tools to enhance the AI and to like skills. So like another great example. And I don't remember I shared this too is we had we had a certain procedure or process for submitting software update requests to our software team. Sure, but they have very specific requirements about what qualifies. And so I was able to use a skill to feed guidelines in to say, hey, I need a skill for writing this kind of document, this kind of submission that I have to put into this other system . And you know , it was like I want you to check this. And so we worked back and forth. We created the skill. So now every time I need to do one, I describe what I need to do. I say, hey, I need you to write this thing and I feed in what I'm looking the requirements and it will now evaluate and say, Oh, you know what? That actually technically doesn't qualify. You need to do something else or hey, this is pretty good, but you need to tweak this and this. Otherwise it's probably going to get denied because you didn't meet these like basic requirements of like what this is supposed to be. So exactly assist . And now I can write those things a lot faster because it's just like, hey, here's what I need. Help me write one of these. And then it generates, you know, the word document or whatever I need to send off to, you know, the next person. And it's, yeah, it's amaz ing. So but I guess we got a little bit away. Point is Apple's not there yet. No, not that I can Yeah, I want the Seri equivalent of co work like that yeah that that's what and I don't see why privacy would have to limit that there's there like especially if we can leverage private cloud compute that because then you're like what's the difference ? Yeah as long as they're okay with it yeah will get there they're just so far behind they're, you know, they're playing catch up. Yeah, but I'm excited about it I don't want to sound like the naysayer here. I am eager to test this out and I can't wait until I get the new Siri AI. So I'm truly seeing the everything that's there. That's where the frustration is right now too, especially with developers is they've got this thing on a waiting list. So it's like a very slow rollout Yep . Yeah, I've heard that from a lot of people. They're like, I don't understand why we're here where I'm gonna be waiting however many months before I can even see what this thing put it through its paces. Yeah , right. I know. I yeah., right Yeah. When is the rollout? September going to be, you think? Well, I mean, the OS I mean developer beta is now public beta in July, OS in the fall. That's what Apple has said, but Siri AI is not part of schedule. I mean, you can like I'm on the wait I said I'm on the waitlist. Lucas is on the waitlist like I know some people have already gotten off the waitlist. I think most and this could be a vocal minority, most of the chatter I'm hearing is people still on the waitlist. So I'm curious curious what their plans are with that. And we will only find out when we find out. So yep. Yep . And I think I think soccer hallways has it again. He says it's Apple' musts be perfect minds et and they don't want to overload their models, the private cloud compute models and crash them and all that stuff. And it's like, well, okay, but like every day Anthropic and Google and Open AI are rolling out like, I mean fable mythos exists out there in the cloud and you and I can use it like so what's the hold up Henry? Great I'm sure they have good reasons for this . I'm sure they have reasons they think are good for this. Let me put it that way . But what it communicates is Apple's technology isn't as good as X . That's the that's the interpretation that most people get is they're behind still The optics just look really, really bad . And most of the other world who's not us doesn't understand any of the nuances of it and they don't care. They don't and they don't even who do understand like us. We don't care as much. It's like let's just let us touch it . It's been long enough guys . Like we've waited we've waited long enough and we've moved on like that's the I don't know. I like Apple Apple has a history of coming in with the best solution late , but I don't know that this is going to be one of those times. We'll see . We'll see . All right. I'm excited about it on the Vision Pro with a little orb that you put in your room now and Siri just lives in your space. That looks really cool. That's pretty cool. Yeah. Being able to use your own, create your own spaces with your pan oramas. That's oh yeah that's super exciting too . Oh yeah, that's right. Yeah, yeah yeah. Yeah , yep . I got one other comment I'd like to talk about A slight possible disagreement with you Adam on the parental control. I think maybe from our paradigm we're all past needing parental control . But I think that's something it is really important and there's some things I wish I'd have done differently, particularly with my youngest. His glued screen to his face, I think was developed early on . And a lot of that goes to me because he was an unusual child. I would say go mow the lawn and he'd put his games down and he'd go to mow the lawn and he'd come back. Literally I had another one who would take three weeks to mow the lawn. Well, there was a stick in the yard. I can, you know, right for that to rot before I could finish mowing the yard. Not this one. Hey, in the middle of a game, hey feed the dog. He'd stop what he's doing. He'd go feed the dog. So he did what he was asked. We let him have as much screen time as he wanted. Bad move . Yeah, you know, but you know, that's that's history. So I looked at the parental controls. They spent a lot of time on it. I agree . But being able to even convert a current child account or a current account into a child account looked pretty useful . Again, each and every parent is going to do it differently and that's their choice. But I think they've put some real effort into making it easier for parents to give them the granular control they wanted. So I applaud you for that. Yeah , yeah, I mean, clearly they've prioritized this, right? They I mean, they spent over fifteen minutes on it in a what a seventy minute keynote is clearly , it's something they've decided is important and that they can be the leaders at. And I like that the UX for parental controls really seems to borrow a lot from what they've learned about focus modes, right? Like that's what it reminded me of. And I like that. That interface is very allows you to be very granular in a very easy to visualized way. And I love that they did that . My and of course, you know, I comment this like exactly like you said, Pete with my own lens . My comment , like the whole ask to browse thing as I was watching this, the comment that I typed to myself in my notes is and I'm reading verbatim , can my wife and I do this for each other ? Like why limit this to kids? But make like I know we can do it to for ourselves with screen time . But can I designate an accountability partner on this? Like it's not just kids have this issue . Like a twenty year old who has this issue . Well, but I also mean like maybe some of us here. I don't I'm talking about me. I'm not I'm not pointing fingers . You know, no, no, you're not wrong. But like , could my wife and I be accountability partners for screen time for each other with opt in permission, you know . Yeah. Can you? I wish I could I don't I don't I don't know. I didn't it didn't seem like it. I haven't tried to dig into it, but I think it's, you know, I don't think you can have two adults controlling each other's phones. Like that's the that's the thing. Yeah . Yeah, yeah. I mean, again, I just was a little shocked that they took the time to spend on this at a developer conference. That's that was my only comment. It's not against what they're doing or why they're doing it or anything. And I think that if I really think about it, I think the answer is that this is Apple's typical hey, we see a large social problem . You know, this is their they've always been like this where they want to tackle whether it's the environment or in this case, I think what it is is we're talking about mental health issues. We're talking about you know distract kids. We're talking about learning. We're talking about like a lot of social impact that, you know, things like social media and screen time and all these things everybody's known about for a really long time . And like you said, Dave, they want to be the leaders. They want to be the company that steps forward and says, all right, we hear everybody complaining about this stuff , we're actually doing something about it. And here's what it is . You know , so we are going to tackle the problem, not just say we have a problem, we have a problem. We need to do something like we've been hearing for years. Yeah, fair. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yep . All right, well, I think we've we've about hit our limit for today. Is there anything else though that either of you want to add about the W DC stuff . Something's missing, but I don't know what. All right, you want to you want to wrap it up with Richard's little like cool stuff found there or quick tip or whatever it is, whatever we're going to call this thing in the IOS twenty seven beta, Pete ? Oh, oh, I can do that. I didn't have it ready. So let me vamp for just a second while I look for let's see Dev Beta, yeah, okay. As I recall, it puts you can get the phone into the recovery mode directly from the phone now . Yeah, there it is here. Look what I just found in IOS twenty seven developer beta. We now have recovery mode on the iPhone like we have on the Mac. You can get to it by selecting volume up, volume down and then holding the power button for fifteen seconds like we what would normally do for DFU mode and then plug it into a computer. But now you can get directly to it on the iPhone . So yeah, it looks like it's going to be quite useful to get into that recovery mode I like that that's there and I hope it sticks. We were talking about this pre show . Yeah . I think it will. Like I don't think this goes away. It's a useful feature. There's a lot of people that just have an iPhone and not needing a Mac to do things with it, I think is a good thing. What kind of options do you have? Do you have a terminal? Yeah , Richard included a picture right Pete, but I don't think I made it. Didn't make it over to the notes. Two , let me see if I can find it here . No. We need to do a follow up. Maybe we'll do a follow up, Dave. Yep.. There you go Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. So you're running since you're like that, you're in the same group with Barry here. He immediately installed the developer bataer on his primary device too. I think you guys are nuts, but that's okay. Yeah, well, I kind of feel like I had to . I know I get the reasons, but yeah . I don't recommend it for a lot of people . Right. Guys at least know what you're doing, eyes wide open, but yeah , I would not advise many people unless you have a really good reason not to put it on your daily driver at least. I don't know. I debated about it with my Vision Pro. I went do I flip the switch? And I decided not to. Did I brick my iPhone? I might have break my iPhone. Oh no, it's starting back up again. I was trying to do it while we were talking here. Oh God, it's right in front of me. Why not? I don't know. It's like maybe I wipe my phone. I don't know But we'll , you know, I put it up in the I find photo and I put it in the So you have recovery assistant, software update, diagnostics mode , erase all content and settings and recovery mode remode. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Try that, try that third one, Dave . Well, I don't have it up yet. I'm still just looking at an Apple logo. And actually I didn't do it right. So I'm just back up to my just did a regular reboot. I get it. It turns out, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's gonna learn how to do it. Yeah. I like the diagnostic mode. I wonder if that's the mode that they only used to have access to kind of in the at the genius bar in the Apple store. They had a really cool mode where they could look at a bunch of statistics and stuff like that. And that'll be interesting to see. That's cool. It is cool. You know, I think it's great. I'm trying to see what allows Apple to support to run tests, to identify hardware and software issues . And if you were to look at the image that exists in our discord that Pete shared , you would be very impressed with my ability to discern what those words were. So I'm very impressed with it. So get a better one. No, it's fine. Is it we're done? We're good. But that's what it yeah, it gets it into that mode for Apple. Yeah. I don't think we get to do a ton with it, but you know, that's okay. It's how it works. So thanks for hanging out, everybody. Yeah. Fun stuff. Friday Thanks to Cashfly for providing all the bandwidth to get the show from us to you. Of course, thanks to all of our sponsors as usual . Thanks to everybody who sent in Quick Tips. Thanks to Saint Box for doing the monthly giveaway with us . If you need more any of us, you can find Pete's. So there I was podcast . You can find Adam's the Date Film podcast. You can find my business brain and gig ab podcasts . And yeah, go leave the show review. We love that. MacKeekab. com slash review. 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