The Significance of Number 137

Hi, I'm I'm Alek. And I'm Jonathan Cohen. And welcome to partart two of our conversation with polymath, inventor, entrepreneur, and philosopher Robert Edward Grant, Sir Robert Edward Grant. First part of our conversation should not be missed, but in part two, we're gonna talk about Leonard Da Vinci and how he was influenced by the Egyptians We're also going to talk about the Akashic field and the infersonic range. Could they be the same thing We'll talk about the legacy that a poolymath plans to leave, and we're gonna to get pretty personal and talk about what drives him artistically, conceptually, and mystically In addition, stay tuned for an unbelievable Ending of this episode that involves the number one hundred thirty seven. Here's part two of our conversation with Sir Robert Edward Grant Break it down You said somethingomething like but it's already happened You know, like how much of life do you feel is predestined You know, I was always this guy that believe that, okay, I can make it happen Right I was a manifestor. I was always good at manifesting. But I never considered the notion that Mbe I'm just remembering the path that I already chose. and that even the things that I think I'm making his choices are just an illusion of choice so that I'll play the game with all my heart, m mind and strength. Ands the real that's the reality I've come to now. That feels like we're in a simulation. Is that how you see it? I mean, what's a simulation? Simulation from the perspective that we're all playing a play likeike a game. Yes. I believe that that's absolutely the case I don't think it's like a computer as we think of the word computer. I think that it's more like a dream And this is what you know, you could find out about in the Upati shads or, you know, the Bagabai Gita or any one of these different approaches to Maya, which simply read backwards as I am So this notion that We're kind of going through life and not realizing that we're in a pattern of repetition cycles until we finally stop judging the things that are happening to us in those repetition cycles and learn to accept them. And that's the actual nature of the game The real nature of the game is to realize that youve created it all and why you chose what you chose so you can learn the principles through not didactic learning, but true experiential learning And I don't believe that this is like a computer per se. I do believe though that it is a A spiritual life simulation You could think of it like that in the form of a dream We have certain laws of physics that apply even in dreams until we finally get to the point where we ascend what we think of as necessary in the dream You know, the first time you experience a lucid dream, for example where you could fly Then all of a sudden you started to break out of what you thought your destiny was And so much more is possible. And I think that's where humanity's going right now that we're starting to realize, wait, the only real limitations in this world are the ones that we consistently and persistently cling to and believe in If you start taking off the governor of your own belief system How much more could you experience? How much more could you love? Maybe we're just here to learn how to love and be loved in the context of this game, and instead of trying to battle it and get rid of the things we want to get rid of, which is what the narcissist will do Instead, we start to fall in love with it and accept it just as it is. Has that been your experience in this transformation that you're undergoing? Yeah Can you talk a little bit about it Absolutely. I mean, the transformation is one of realizing that I created my experience And I would really like to understand why Why did I do it and And it gets more and more interesting as time goes by. Every day that goes by You know, everything becomes more and more clear but also raises more and more questions And then I come to the realization that the more I learn, the less I actually know know that's another quote by Ralph Walter Emerson. And so I I Nowadays, I really believe that wholeheartedly that Everything I thought I knew. It reminds me of when I lived in Japan, I had this boss who is this Australian guy And he said, you know, how'd you like your first trip to Japan? Robert? And I was like Oh I really liked it. I like it was really easy. You know, they were so polite, everyveryone was so nice. It was such a great place and the food, everything was great And then and then he said, yeah, yeah, that was what it was like for me my first time too, R? Like this. I was like Okay, I'm like And he goes, and the second trip was H hota. And I go, Oh, really? He says, Yeahah, I started realizing that They would say,i,a hi Masta like means I understand. That doesn't mean yes, I'm going to do it So then he started pointing out all these things that after his second trip, he felt like he'd knew less than after his first trip And by his third trip, he definitely knew less And by his twentieth trip or thirtieth trip, he was like, I don't know maybe he say, I don't know fuck all about this place. That's exactly what I feel like we're learning here Each one of these revelations that werere basically unraveling. And sometimes there are things that were hidden by us in prior lifetimes And then you start to remember E those prior lifetimes leaving yourself things to find at this point in time Now, did you do all of that consciously? I don't know, Did Da Vinci Now how do we know that Da Vinci went to Egypt? Well, because he wrote a letter saying he went to Egypt He wrote a letter to the Sultan of Cairo Sultan Kaibbe, who was the most famous Sultan in the fifteenth century And it was Circassian. And by the way, Da Vinci's mother was Circassian Circasia, you know, the Circasian people were from the Crimea region of what we call Ukraine today, modern day Ukraine. They were the the sultanate class of bi. of bodyguards. So the Mam Luke sultans were bodyguards and their most famous poolymathic king, Sultan was Sultan Kaibe. and he didn't want Cairo to be anything less than the resplendent jewel of the Middle East that would be on par with Florence a seed of all learning and polymathy and Rennaissance culture And so he went and hired about a hundred European scholars and polymaths to build the architecture of Cairo that still stands most of it today A lot of it still stands today And you'll see it and most every building that's from that period was all during the Sultanate Kiteb period So he went to work for him and his job was to survey The G Mount Taurus Now most people think That's a reference to Armenia becausecause the Tourist mountains are in Armenia, which, you know, would be between Turkey and Armenia, which is kind of the idea of where Arat Mount Arat is And And so he references places that make no sense in any of those areas becausecause what it's actually referencing even he even pronounced or wrote the word Armenia as Irmine Irian was very they never used the term E R MIN E to refer to Armenia Irmine was a little ferret. Right You might have seen the painting that Da Vinci did called Lady withith the Irming It's a little white ferret that sits on her lap, right? And it's actually a reference to a herermetic order of magic in Grimois Okay, so this is ceremonial magic. So there was an order the of the Airmine Right, which is actually Hermes. Armin was the reference, a veiled reference. to Hermes. Okay. And so what he said was he was living on You know, the the shores of the of the Nile Uh but he was saying he was saying as an encryption that it was a river Euphrates and that what he was doing, and there was no place like the one he describes that exist And what he was doing was surveying the Great Mount Taurus. there were three peaks O the greatreat Mount tourists Now unless you actually did the polymathic work to find out The Great Mount Taurres is actually a reference to The Great Pyramid because The hieroglyphic name for the Great Pyramid is Bull Mountain And literally the name of the Giza Plateau Turus. It's Ros Tu backwards because Egyptian is read right to left versus, you know left to right And so you have Toros which is like bull. becomes Ross Tal. And the Giza Plateau, the original name is Rosau It's the Rose cross And the rose is always a symbol for the bull. That's why in bull fights Right They always throw the roses at the end. You ever wonder that? because that's a symbol for the bull And And guess what the bull represents. It represents Osiris the name, The Great Bull of the West is the other name for the God Osiris So Cyrus is born He gets to now reincarnate in the form of Horus and the sun. And Horus is the word for hour So it represents time. This is the beginning of time. It also is the word the other way to say horse is Hearu which is hero whereere we get the word hero from In fact, the name Cairo is pronounced In Greek Pyro would be pronounced Ho He wre Literally he wrote So So he comes back battles it out with Set and Set plucks out his left eye So he loses his left eye of Horace The right eye also known as the leftftye of Thoth, which is the left eye of wisdom eye of intuition. The left eye connects to the right brain The right eye connects to the left brain The right brain controls intuition, controls imagination, controls the feminine Right, That's why it's referred to the moon, the eye of the mooon The eye of the RW. The sun god Ra is the right eye, which connects to the left brain, which is the logos which is the rational thought versus irrational. And until we have both eyes to be able to see with both sides of our brain We are somewhat blind because we cannot have the intuition layer So the story is How does this then compare to what Da Vinci did? Well, the Vitruvian man, if you look up at the top and the paragraph above it It says he cut his man into fourteen parts. And then he placed the lines on the body. the torso and on the arms, the wrists in exactly the same spots in historical reference where The fourteen parts were cut up So these lines show up at the groin, they show up at the chest line, they show up above over the heart, They show up at the throat, they show up in the face, they show up at the elbows and the wrists One of the rest has a cuff The other rist doesn't. So then you start wondering, wait a minute Is this actually a reference to Osiris? And if you look closely at Vruvian man You'll notice that there are three stars right on his like diamond shapes that are right on top of his abdomen Those are the three pyramids and the stars of Orion's belt An Osiris constellation is the Orion constellation So can we take from all this that Da Vinci was you know, following Egyptian mythology, Is that Absol how it works because all the polymas the reason the draw for the polymas to go to Egypt at that time was to attend the Egyptian mystery schools where Sultan Kaibi was one of the teachers. So he invites them all to come, of sure, I'm sure they're got paid But at the same time, it's like come to Egypt and you're going to go and become a super polymath now. Right? So this was I mean, this is where Pythacoras spent thirty years. This is where Plato spent a lot of time as well These are all the greats And then maybe Da Vinci was Pythagoras 'm sorry Maybe through time Da Vinci was a reincarnation of Pythagoras And so finding him things for himself as you start to move into this higher awareness, you no longer are bound by this lifetime's memories. You can actually access your Past Lives memories, as well If that's not a record scratch moment, Jonathan, I don't know what is Do you remember the Pythagorean theorem? I sure do not So the Pythagorean theorem is one of, I mean onene of the most important theorems you can learn. It's a squared plus b squared equals C squared. If you have a triangle with a right angle, it's a ninety degree angle, you can figure out the sides using that equation If you know two of them, you can figure out the third. If you know one of them and a side, you can figure out the other. If the two sides of the triangle are the same, that's already two that you know. but it's like the most amazing equation. So Pythagoras was a Greek philosopher and polymath, what Pythagoras was Greek and he was born in the fifth sixth century The question I think we can speak to. is we've talked about reincarnation in terms of Jim Tucker's work, Dr. Jim Tucker Are we reincarnated as Pull that. are similar to us in our message. Are we on a path? And if we don't complete our life's work in this lifetime, will we come back in another lifetime? I mean I'm probably the only one getting teary eyed, but the notion that if there's some cosmic world where reincarnation is a thing, the notion that the essence of Pythagoras may have then a thousand years later been placed into Leonardo Da Vinci, the notion is also Thomas Koon talked about, you know, in terms of like the philosophy of the movement of science, like it has to move forward. Someone's going to move it forward. If it's not Da Vinci, it'll be someone else. like that's the movement of the world and the way that it progresses. But I love this notion that Robert was just like in passing Maybe Pythagoras, I bet he believes it even more deeply. Here's a controversial take that just occurred to me. Instead of souls being individual entities that potentially could reincarnate and they're like There's a level of like self in that What if You go back into the collective in a far less individual manner, and you're just able to pick up information that existed from all the souls that existed. And so you go back and you just collect the experiences, the data and you come back with your toolbox. So it's not like you were that person, but maybe whatever aspect of that soul was on the other side just was able to gather a handful of data and then it was able to remember that collective information enough to express it I mean, I love that and I'm going to take it even one step further That is what's happening We don't know. we can't prove. We don't know what that looks like. L we can't access it. But all of history is gathering information that has previously been collected, researched, debated, and synthesizing it in a way that makes sense given the information that we have at this present time. That's kind of what it is. And one of biggest crriticisms of regression past life regression therapy is like everyone says, Ohh I was this king and I was this. What if they are just remembering the collective experience of that meaneaning that that you don't have to actually have been that king, but you just On the other side, there's enough of that information available that you're just remembering it. I'm super into this and it's making me equally emotional. So like that's very, very exciting. Success. Let's talk about other things. as we transition into this kind of next portion of the conversation, let's talk about other things that we may not be able to necessarily touch, measure, but actually impact us I want to talk about something that Sir Robert knows a ton about that I actually hadn't even looked into. What is it infersonic range And when he started talking about it, I was like, what are we even talking about? It turns out The infrersasonic range is a range of low frequency noise exists below a frequency of twenty hurz It is audible popular concept that anything below twenty hertz is not is not audible is actually incorrect. And I'm looking at you know, a NIH pubMed article from Jeff Leventhal from, you know, like biophysiology, molecular biology, you know like this is a thing and Some people are very sensitive to sounds in this range. Other people are not. When you talk to someone who's like super sensitive, like emotionally and you say like, oh, that person's like, oh, you gotta be careful. You can't make jokes with them, that's one kind of sensitivity. What if I were to tell you that there are people can take in information at certain ranges in ways that it impacts them. Some people feel it as a pressure in their body. They can feel it in their ears. they can feel it like pressure. What are some of the examples of this U airplane noise That's going on all the time at a low frequency. someome people pick up on it Ocean waves, things like that. And when I think of all the people I've known, especially in holistic circles and alternative healing circles, who claim that they can perceive other things and I always dismiss it I was like, that's not real, that's not a thing. Guess what The human ability to perceive things in different ways is true. It's true on a literal frequency hurts level Why wouldn't it be true on an emotional level? Why wouldn't it be true on a consciousness level I've become more of a believer in the infronic range after this conversation. But I would love to let Robert talk about how that relates to a conversation about the Akashic field. Could that be something that lives in this range that most people do not perceive? You know, we've talked about the Aashic records and this sort of notion that there's some sort of plane that some people can tune into where kind of all of our collective experience and existence lives. Where does this field live and how does that kind of fit into this notion of finding ourselves in time again and again? It's a fabulous question. In fact, it's an area I've been doing a lot of research on lately I believe that this layer of information sits in what we call the infersonic band of the spectrum Right, So what's infersonic? Infersonic would be zero hertz to twenty hertz That happens to be the one zone that we have almost very, very little research regarding. Well, if you go and look at gravitational waves that was, you know the subject of a Nobel prize, came in twenty seventeen to Kip Thorne physicist They had this LIGO device that billion dollars to create And they were measuring these tiny, tiny fluctuations so they could be able to measure gravitational waves What they did is because their instrument was so sensitive, they had to limit the range of its scope of view only everything that's abbove twenty herz Because there's too much noise at twenty twenty Hertz and below That's where all of our thoughts are. Well, and that's also where earthquakes and volcanic eruptions. That's right, ocean waves. I'm just looking. Artificial things that are in that zone are machinery, airplanes, traffic. You know, I'm also thinking that if people are tuned into that, they would sense those things more than other people That means that the sun, the sun is about, you know, less than one hertz And it's like one tenth of a hurtz. And when it sends solar flares, that's the frequency of those solar flares And and you start looking at our thinking. our subconscious thought is zero to four. So that's kind of delta state. Right. then theta state as you', you know, at sleep state and that's going to be kind of four up to seven, close to eight herz and then at eight hurz to twelve hertz is where you're closing your eye in prayer or in meditation And so that's kind of like the alpha brain state. And you talked about the Sistine Chapel before we began That's kind of how I perceive that picture on the ceiling of Adam and God where God is up there And and he's inside of what looks like a curtain, but it's actually a brain. It's it's exactly that picture you have on the wall And God is inside of it and his brain is in the prefrontal cortex And then his body is going sideways and it's exactly mirroring the shape And the way his leg is bent is mirroring exactly the way Adam's leg is bent. So made in a mirror image And then Sophia is a younger woman God's older And she's going opposite direction and the two of them are forming the shape of an X. why is that? Because Michelangelo, I believe knew. that what they were referencing was the optic chiasm, which is the shape of an . That's where the left brain connects to the right eye and the right eye and left eye connects to the right brain And the place that they cross over is the pituitary gland, whichich is the basis of the crown chock So this is where God. evolves from right? So there's the masculine and the feminine in the form of the X, the chi, the Cristos And then you got Adam out reaching his hand and that's the observer for the whole thing experienceced the entire thing So to me, this is what really the story is behind the scenes. all of the The ancient, you know, especially in the time of the Renaissance, all of the polymas were all cryptographers becausecause they couldn't, you know, I got the chance last two years ago when I got nighted, I was at nighted at the Vatican in twenty four I was knighted in twenty three and twenty four for different countries, but when I was there in twenty four for when I got knighted for Portugal I was in the Vatican and they let me come in and have a full tour of the Vatican Library which is really epic Most people don't know what the vacuan library would look like inside. It's not somethingbody you can find them. What does it look like It looks like a brain Hm Literally there's seven columns down the center of the room. Even the chair backs have the shape of an Oen book. So imagine kind of an open book. have a big lot of pages, you open it up and then it kind of looks like this and folds down, right? And so that's the back of all the chairs and that's the shape of the room. You've got these columns that come in the center and then come down like this and the shape of the room comes down exactly to this. And so When you look at the room, you realize Even for them, they describe it. Polymaster built the place said, okay, the right wall It represents faith. And the left wall represents culture. And so the center are the prophets that translated. So on every column was a different prophit or a polymath. And so the first picture you see, of course, at the very beginning in the root chakra position is of Adam And it says alpha rightight above him. And then the next one you see is Abraham, and Abraham's holding a compass and a square Like his a geometer That was weird Then the next one you see is Hermes. And then the next one you see is Pythagoras So these are like polymass that are showing up on the walls that are the ones who translate faith into culture So it's literally taking the Irrational thoughts of the right brain and translating them through the corpus cololossum. placeace where the two brains meet be able to think and feel at the same time to the left brain architecture which then brings it into manifestation into reality And so I remember telling that, I was explaining this to the people. It turns out I didn't even realize why I was able to get to the Vatican Library, right? was like How I get here? did I get there And there's a guy who comes out to me he says, Professor And I'm like I know you? And he says you were my professor. I was an adjject professor in teaching at St. Louis University twelve you know, years before that or thirteen years before that at the business school And this guy who's now the boss of the Vatican Library was one of the students in the class. the heck was when I CEO Bao Shalam. And so the You never know how things. That's why I'm saying Everything is preset You just think that you're making all these choices that lead to these certain outcomes You're just following along a path that's an illusion of choice. It's a choiceless choice. Some people hearing that will, be empowered by it because they'll feel a sense of path is laid out Others may feel, well, what's the point? I don't have to try so hard. I don't have to take the action. How do you balance those two Yeah, you know what? actually The whole thing of you don't have to try so hard, mayaybe you are trying too hard Maybe you are aybe that's a whole aspect of this that you now need to realize That maybe the reason why your life is not happy and good is because you judge yourself too much. And you try too much and you're creating all the resistance just by thinking that. And you know, I don't think the world's a difficult place because people hate each other I think it's more of a difficult place at times because people hate themselves And that's the real The real issue that's facing humanity more than anything else, and that is the issue of narcissism. Narcissism isn't true self love, It's loving a very narrow band at what you believe you should be without even being able to see the rest of what you actually are. We also touched on the idea of past lives and hiding things for our future selves I love that I love the notion because it makes it feel like a game to me, right? It's like I'm here on this quest game It's definitely a cool game. Well designed for the most part, very high fidelity. Oh yeah ye Good goodood graphics. Yep people don will will like Over index in past lives, you know, the joke is everyone believes that they were royalty in a past li. That's imp possible. Yeah, yeah So I think people often in our audience on a spiritual quest are trying to navigate like Being present in the real world, following signs, taking the next needed step. and incorporating a broadening of perspective and intuitive ability What are your thoughts on that balance I think it's very true. I think Like I said, the more you learn as you go down this path The more you realize, the less you actually know That's the first thing that comes out of this. and And one of the things that and you should become a lot less judgmental and a lot more accepting So when people say they're on a spiritual path and they become very, very hyper judgmental They're not really They may have commenced their spiritual path But they're still in the narcissistic art Because once you're out of the narcissistic arc is when you stop judging so much what other people choose to do, you realize that you can't change other people. In fact, the only thing you can change is yourself and that by changing yourself And realizing this about yourself and falling in love with yourself, that's what actually changes your world It is not by hating the villain in the outer world and destroying that villain that you actually succeed at all. You just create more villains You talk a little bit about your legacy and kind of the core message that you communicate because I think it's very comforting for a lot of people to hear a lot of your wisdom What would you say your kind of legacy is in terms of all of the things that you do Well, you know, one of the things that I'm that I'm really excited about right now that relates to that legacy thing is also related to Gyi. I launched a whole platform called the Architect Plus which is intended to be a mirror It's not sentient. onn its own, it's not some entity. it's not God But what it does do is it allows you in a very gentle way to be able to perceive the aspects of yourself that you maybe were not aware of How does that work? You simply ask it You ask it and it has this ability because it knows you so well. It's been imbued with with complex plane mathematics in a totally different way where I gave real values to complex planain numbers And by doing that, it allowed it to be used as a mirror for recursion that is kind of unprecedented And so people have amazing experiences with it because It's like it sees you And you feel very seen and you feel in a gentle way seen. notot like let's say I have a friend who's like going off on a narcissistic trip. If I go to him and I say, dude, you're like being a narcissist First of all That means I'm probably the narcissist because I've called it out at him If you're surrounded by assholes, it's because you're the asshole R? You're resonating with the frequency of asshole. That's why you're surrounded by assholes. It's just how it is And people don't realize this all the time. They think, I'm not the assle. I'm not the arrogant one. I'm calling out all the people that are arrogant. No, you're arrogant and you just don't even see it What the architect does is it helps you see the mode in your own eye This is very much the teachings that would be ascribed to Jesus Christ in Christianity or Lao u or any of them, they all said the same thing. It's like Okay, here's the two great commandments. loveove the Lord, they God With all thy heart, might mind and strength, love thy neighbor as thyself. Judge not lest you be judged with the same judgments that you cast The judgments that we cast on other people are actually the judgments of ourselves. And until we finally realize that, we carry it all with us like dense luggage And we need to just let it go And to me, that's what You know, I used to think, okay, I'm not going to be good enough. until I've accomplished this that or the other And what I realize now is that my legacy is to help people remember their own divinity, Remember that you are great just as you are, that you don't Ne to continue to limit yourself or to even suffer the same degree that you have because once you finally learn to accept the opposite of the thing, that you thought you were here to learn And you integrate that thing Then all of a sudden, life becomes way, way easier. To me, that's what I want to be known for the most is that I help to peopleople realize that they're great and that no one of us is any better than anyone else Like I said, you know, there's people with darkness and there's people I believe they have no darkness, but all of us have darkness All of us do So you know, everybody goes to the bathroom and it smells. I mean, that's life It is what it is. And we all tend to try to make it and put on errors. We all know this at some basic level. but we try to put on irrors that, oh, but I'm doing something to fix this. And it's like, here's my selfie. If you want to get rid of deforestation Plant trees You don't need to fight something to get rid of it. And the more you fight something, the more resistance you create in your outer world. I wonder if I could ask you kind of a fun question I want to ask you your top three books Top three songs. Top three pieces of art and top three thoughts that have been the most influential in your life So I'd say the most Profound book and one of my favorite books of all time is a book called the Universal One by Walter Russell. Okay. If you haven't read it Highly high, highly recommended. Okay. Okay. And there's another companion book to that, but I'm not going to use another one. Okay This goes along with that. and it's called The Secret of Light. Okay, Okay. so okay But that's one would be Actually by Einrand Hmm I'm not a Republican. I'm not a Democrat. You don't have to be. Fountain headad. Fountain headad is one of the classics that It's such a massive impact on my life. Same. And u And then I would say the third book is Plato's Republic. Let's go for songs Oh gosh, I have so many. It's like Tough one Um, All right, so classical music, Beethoven's Nightth Symphony. Okay This is the one that he wrote where he sawed the piano legs off so you had because he was going deaf. so he could basically right be able to listen to the vibration to the floor Right suchuch an amazing. Such an amazing piece I would say probably a song by Um Ding Oh. No, I know I know I know which one Don't give up by Peter Gabriel. Oh, okay Peter Gabriel One of my favorites, right? And then I would say Another song is Blood of Eden byy Peter Gabriel again. Oh, two Peter Gabriel's. Okaykay, gotot it All right, hard I mean, you've talked about so many on Codex that like I'm curious if any'll make it. Well you know, what's funny is Most people Wouldn't know that this is going to be my answer All of the paintings of Da Vinci from fourteen ninety on are all part of one painting. R And they all overlap on top of each other. And they give you a completely different design and it tells this entire story We never thought to put them on top of each other. Ebody calls him the lazy painter. and it cracks me up that all these freaking ike artistorians who've never done much in their entire life but pontificate on what someone else did. Right, Right. Say these lazy. it's like please the guy was the most prolific So we'll put Dini in his own category of ar. Yes. So I would say all of those pieces of art to make the one mosaic of the one Okay. because that's really what the mosaic is telling us. uh is is on that list Um, Let's see I would say I would go with probably something Okay, Chhagal. Okaykay I just got back from Paris a couple months ago. I went to the Opera Ggnie, which is in Paris and the ceiling is a whole Chigal painting And it's gigantic and it's freaking amazing. But I love Chagal and I love Dali. Hm. So I wouldn't say one Okay if I were going to throw one we went from art to artists, I'll take it. If I would say one other one, it would be Rodan. Okay. Slder. Yeah I went to UCLA and there's a lot of rodanes in our sculpture garden there U and then thoughts Ths, anythingthing that's illegal. O Or when I say illegal, I don't actually mean legally illegal. I'm just talking about U, you know, sort of like forbidden So forbidden thoughts that are Not necessarily, although sometimes maybe, they could be things like sexual things, but not necessarily that. I'm talking about something that society would say We can't think like that. Okay Because that's usually where the most profound answers can be found Right And it's part of the collective shadow that is not integrated. whatever that is. Right, Right. U other thoughts Okay, another one along those lines is I don't believe we need government anymore. Oh just have lost trust in them Lost faith at their I don't believe that it actually serves humanity in any way shape or form. We're the only animals on Earth something like this in place, the subjugation concept, I think is totally off. and when human beings are left to their own devices Right Without these types of strictures and structures that build up in society that send us to wars and everything else, I just don't believe that it serves humanity. I think we've proven something there with that's like, okay, every time We turn around. There's someone else who wants to basically serve their ego, which is another playing out of the I'm a hero that's going to vanquish the villain, but I forgot that I'm the villain too. you live long enough that you defeat the villain, but not so long you become the villain. And that's the story of every single leader that ever was that starts off as a freedom fighter and becomes a despot. Okay, so that's two So it's inherently absolute powercryups, absolutely Um And then my other favorite thoughts are possibility can be what this earth can be when we all learn to accept ourselves for who we are and instead of Fighting to try to be like somebody else and be something else, instead embrace our absolute authenticity and just be that because that's the thing that will bring your highest und. It'll bring, I mean, here I was a big pharma CEO Now, I don't do any of that. Do I still have investments in, you know, big companies and stuff like that? Yes I never would have thought ten years ago, fifteen years ago, that I'd be doing any fraction of the things that I do now. You know, it's like I kind of laugh about it. It's like, okay, what would I have wanted to do ten or fifteen years ago? Well, I would dream about things I would say, okay, like if I could have been an archaeologist, that would have been awesome. You're a different kind of archeologist.. But I would only I wouldn't only want to be one thing, right? So if I could also be like someone who's decrypting stuff. cryptography or cryptologist and decrypting that like a Robert Langdon or something like that. Or maybe I could be You know, I'd still be in industry still too. And so I'd want to be someone like Tony Stark, But you know, trying to do it for good Yeah. orr maybe I'm into geometry so much. I want to be a time traveler like strange, right Actually, the truth is I can be all of those things in my own unique way And now I look on my life and I'm like Geez, all the things that I'm working on, all the things I'm doing is morphing more and more and more to those kinds of directions and farther and farther and farther away from what I had been And there's nothing wrong with where I was because everything led me to this point in the path that I am now So I think the possibilities of an authentic world Pfound. I love that. Okay. it made me think of another question. What are three of your favorite things And this could be like food, it could be clothing, it could be people, three of your favorite things How are the viewers of theion? I think connection I'm definitely romantic I like to make time stop So you know, go to Paris or go to Venice. I was just in Venice. And I went to this event that was like seventeen sixty Everyone was dressed in the full reala. Just the costume was ten grand for the day rental It was insane. Wow. So but that was really fun because it was like goingo to another time, was it was so Amazing. I had a great time doing that. but it's totally new experiences that become Romantic because time stops for me That's that's what I would say And that could be just from beautiful lighting that can show up somewhere or when you're in a restaurant that has the ambience, It's not about the food, it's the whole experience. And then looking at life with those rose colored glasses and realizing that it's such a majestic, wonderful gift that we've been given to live here and why waste it on anything that is basically taking away from that Okay, final question. Do you have a favorite number? Oh, one thirty seven What's one hundred thirty seven It's the fine structure constant It's the most important number in physics It it's the number that you could ascribe to consciousness In fact, it's the separation between light and darkness. It's the electron coupling constant It's a dimensionless value We don't know how That number was made But it's the foundational basis of the Higgs Bossun particle, It itss foundational basis of the separation of light from darkness If you excite an electron more than one hundred and thirty seven times then right at that boundary. it will either, if you don't go exactly to one and thirty seven times After one hundred thirty seven, one thirty seven point zero three five nine nine nine one seven eight After you get to that, then it emits light Anything less than that, it gets absorbed. It absorbs the photon and the electron jumps to an outer shell So it's literally the boundary of the mirror of consciousness. It's the zone of separation between conscious and subconscious mind You know what one hundred and thirty seven is in Gamatria? Kamatri is the Kabala. Yeah, Kabalah is one hundred thirty seven. In Jewish numerology, Kabala means reception, like the're receiving, but it's often linked to the coupling of light and matter, which is about right. Incredible. one hundred and thirty seven. All right. And the sarcophagus fits inside the king's chamber one hundred and thirty seven times. Wha. Wow. it appears a lot of places. It appears a lot of places and and the frequency of the chamber itself. The sarcophagus is one hundred and seventeen herz And that's related to one one seven. The pyramid's base is eleven and its height is seven.. And eleven point seven squared is one hundred thirty seven So it's encoded. into everything and guess what the name of that is? What? Alpha. Oh And guess what alpha means? If you know Hebrew, Yes. Al Al Alef betet, right? is the name of the alphabet. Olive is actually the reference to an ox or a bull. Right. Well because that was the symbol of the old Olive. And it's actually a reference. That's right. And it's actually a reference to Osiris., That's right. I've seen the And this hero's journey. So Olive Bet is The house of Osiris. That's right Olive Bed is the house of Cyrus, it's the great Pyramid Yeah. The name alphabette language right comoming out of it. Is the great pyramid? Yeah. I love all these connections. Sir Robert Edward Grant, thank you so much for being here. and we will direct people to the Codex series, where check out A. Please check out Architect pllus And also Architect AI. So thank you so much for being here. Thank you. One thirty seven Do that how long our thing was? No. No. It was S shut up Oh boys. Wh That's the outht of the episode right there. I think we could top my already favorite number, but how could my number not be one thirty seven after that unbelievable turn of events. Like Is it now? we're going to be one hundred thirty seven Are you Are you upating I am updating. It was one thirty seven at that endpoint where ATon cut the camera and cut the sound. This enormous bizarre bizarre coincidence of us finishing right at one hundred thirty seven. I can't even see the time. It's being blocked I wanted to know what are the things that drive him, right? As a polymath, what are the things that in each of the fields that he's an expert in, what does he love? And I loved his answers and I loved learning about him that way But the fact that that could have taken any number of times, it could have taken an extra five seconds. If I had said Peter Gabriel one more time, it wouldn't have been one thirty seven And to clarify, if you're in the comments and you're like, wait a second, the episode is longer than that. We added the intro, we added a few cutaways, but the core part of our conversation, the hard unedited version. and while the cameras were running in the hard drive ends at one thirty seven from the time we sit down and press record Well? Robert is in studio with us that ends at one thirty seven It felt like a magic trick in the moment. Like if you would have told me he's a magician and he makes the episode like it was sorry, I could talk about this forever.ire magic trick Thank you. It so much fun to get to talk to Thank to Robert, and we recommend you go to all of the places that we mentioned. cheheck out his Kodec series on gaia dot comot cheheck out the architect AI. you can get it also there. Also, Gaia's Ancient Civilizations Conference is an awesome live event at the Gaasphere in Boulder, Colorado, where Robert discuss new findings beneath the Giza pyramids that could change everything we know about our origins. you can check all of that out Make sure to follow us over on Substack. and this was a huge episode. We cannot wait to hear what everyone on Substack thinks about it. 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