Final Thoughts and Episode Outro

You are listening to Miss Apex podcast. We live at one . Welcome to Miss Apex podcast. I'm your host, Richard Ready, but my friends call me spanner. So let's be friends. I have had quite an enjoyable Saturday and Sunday watching the Monaco Grand Prix. So do I have to eat humble pie? Do I have to sit here and go I was wrong? It truly is the jewel in the crown? No, I am going to stick by everything I've said because I mean, I think at one point we nearly thought there was one genuine overtake for position and then it turned out it was actually just someone giving a position back because they'd gained it illegally. But for a moment, Monaco had beaten its own record of genuine overtakes for position after lap one , which was zero, and we thought, yes, they finally got to one genuine overtake contract. So my criticisms of the Monaco Gornfrie remain the same. However, it is without doubt that we had an incredibly entertaining weekend. Qualifying was entertaining, the stakes were high and because the stakes were high , as I said in my silly spanner's stream, because the stakes are high, the broadcasts adjust to it. They know that that's going to be the highlight of the weekend. So they big it up, they fire it up and yeah, you can get caught up with it. The camera work was good. So I had an enjoyable Saturday. I sit down for Sunday zero expectations. We have a bit of drama at the start. We have one overtake at turn one going up to Casino Square and then it settles into what is a very very, normal monaco grandpre and yes, if you follow my social media, I was throwing out every normal negative spanish thing I could and then the racing gods provided . They reached down and they pulled Tarmac from the ground. They drew particles of concrete and tarmac from their resting place into the tracks of our racing heroes to create drama. And I would say there has certainly over the weekend been talking points . The Mercedes juxtaposition between the Antonelli success and the George Russell Aura drop has been has been pistolic seeing Kimi Antonelli potentially on his way to being a generational talent. Not saying he is a general generational talent , but if he is a generational talent, the things he are doing are very similar to what a generational talent would do, so we can discuss that. Ferrari, they seem like they're putting a lot of the bits together clouded by a very weird leclerc approach to Monaco, but Lewis Hamilton is a completely Lewis Hamilton. And I'll argue today that from a human point of view, this is the best human version of Lewis Hamilton that we're seeing. The McLaren Boys managed to tangle. So I assume Papaya Rules is no longer a thing. We just had a lot of exciting, entertaining, dramatic things to make up for the fact that you cannot go racing around Monaco. But we are an independent podcast produced in the podcast and shed with the kind support of our patrons and partners, we aim to bring you a race review before your Monday morning commute . We might be wrong, but we're first. Actually, I could do it solo, but why not invite Matt to rump it along? Hello Matt . And that's gonna be five more seconds for speeding in the introduction. Oh, did I talk too fast and therefore just randomly? But look, if you get a five second penalty for talking too fast and then Christian does as well, maybe it's not our fault, maybe it's something else. Yeah , maybe that will be Steve messing up the edit and meaning we get a drive through instead . We're also joined by the clown prince of F one Motorsport Content Christian Patterson from Denmark land. What did I do to get that title . I just ruined on purpose all of my plans for the last three years every time you're on the show. But yeah, let's get into the action. I think honestly one of the most interesting things from the race, it has to be the Mercedes like guys, the Mercedes Battle, where there's no argument there is I think the story of the weekend is Antonelli's success versus Russell's like what matt? What let's start with Russell. What is going on with George Russe ll? Well, I mean you'd love to know, but the racing gods keep on taking him out of the action so we don't get to find out. Now what it sounds like is that an update that Mercedes brought changed his relationship with the car. And it went from being I can easily drive this car faster than my teammate to wow, this is now a bit of a handful for me and my teammate can now easily drive it faster than me except for maybe at Canada or tracks where I just naturally fit. This isn't a natural George track that was already against him . Then you pile on , you know, all the penalties and team mistakes and ah and then the great as you point out, just to make him feel better about himself , the social media posts , which is like that, that 's like , well I do have a small word of caution. I see a lot of people saying, oh, he said that he's a melt. He's done. His head is done in Ricardo at the end of his McLaren tenure , that's what a driver whose head is fully done in and looks like. I don't think this is George. I think George has a pretty good idea if you hear complaining about stuff. Disagree because he wants it fixed. I disagree. I disagree Christian. I disagree . So yeah, I've heard it everywhere and it might be quite a UK phrase, but like heads gone. When you say like heads gone? I don't think so. I do. I think Russell's head's gone. He's yeah, I think he's Christian. I think if you listen to what he's saying and he says we said, oh it's Antonelli's to lose after round five. He says, well I could drive it before and now I just can't drive it everything he says just makes you go, yeah he's not in the game, head's gone and it is backed up by decisions on track as well and performance on track. I think I would agree if it was August or September and we saw what we saw today with George Russell, but I don't I just think he's a bit too hard on himself and maybe sometimes acting a little bit like it's unfair or what's going on chill a bit and I think he will get to it. George Russell needs two or three very good races and we'll stop talking about it . But there's two things about this . First of all, the Mercedes car on Kerbs in Monaco was not good. It took some time to get settled . They were bouncing like crazy. They did at least one more bounce than the other cars with the Mercedes at start . And Sanelli just drove around that. So I would say it's not just George Russell having a very bad weekend. It's also Anson Hillary having like out of the ordinary weekend. Okay, but no, okay, one out of the ordinary weekend , right? This is his fifth win in a row and his fifth weekend in a row where bather the odd dodgy star . He's looked fine. Where is the weakness in Antonelli over the last five weekends? Five race weekends. Now, George Russell has had some bad luck , but he also has had a lot of genuine times just being off the pace. He is being in every single quarter , Antonelli is doing better and having better quote unquote luck that than Russell. It's like' they dont have the same car to be honest. It's like he's a perez in against Verstappen and we're struggling to find reasons why that pace is not there. I will counter with Canada which per my memory not only did George get pull but was ahead of Antonelli when his car went pop and Antonelli if I'm being honest I am honest . Antonelli looked like he was going to crash trying to pass George in that race George being removed from that race removed that possibility. The reason he looked like he was going to crash into George was because he was making a ne aran perment home in Russell's gearbox. Antonelli was faster in Canada. Antonelli was faster at every point in Monaco . He just looks faster in every single metric. And here's the main problem for me is that it's Russell's response and everything he says, you know, talking about that, oh, we're not being sabotaged and then in the next interview, but you know, maybe almost . But wouldn't you say hang on Christian? I'm sorry, Christian. Sorry, there's a big difference in the antonelli we saw today and the antonelli we have seen in the four races before this. So he started sort of early on easily almost behind Russell. Then when he got his speed up, he beat Russell on occasions. And then you saw in Canada, you basically saw the two different racing styles . And he's very aggressive while racing where Russell is perhaps a little bit more tempered in a probably if we were to make broad comparisons Jensen Button kind of way. Oh, you were saying the input of Russell's was similar to Button. Yeah, I'm just saying he's a bit more he's not so he's not sawing the steering wheel well until he's much more aggressive. So okay, so I definitely noticed Russell's steering inputs were different at Monaco than we normally see. So we were seeing like the likes of Lawson I'm trying to think of who I sort of really attacked aggressively. But you know, oh Piatri actually. So Piestri every exit he had opposite lock. Every single lexi had an opposite lock. He was going for it and but with Russell , you saw that he was actually he was waiting a long time before he then did the crank. So it was almost like he didn't want to commit too much to the steering. And then when he finally felt that he would not have understeer, then he was cranking the wheel over and it's almost like he was driving it like a ground effect car or a twenty fourteen hybrid or something like that where,as if you look on board with like lawson and Limblad, they were like absolutely wrestling the balls off it. And I think that's just a lack of confidence in the season in the car in the state he's at. I must be honest, I was talking about the Canada episode the racing between the two cars in Canada, but you know there's the Monaco Grandpri just checking that you know but you guys brought us to Canada and I'm just flying along Canada let's get started . It supports my theory that he's much less done than people think he is. Right. Okay. I mean, the thing about it, we had this discussion outside of Miami up until Miami, which we admit Fair and Square was a Kimmy win. You could make the argument George was better or at least was in a better place and therefore could have won the race in Canada you could still argue he was not going down without a fight .st c Waseor scenari o, he finishes his second to Kimmy, but basically like no, Kimmy's not that that much better. We come to Monaco, another street track, again, not a George track. And like, again, it's just team mistakes if taken them out of one , two, eight . Yeah . Yeah, I mean the team mistakes have really done him in . And last point, small one from our Miami show , don't forget, George tends to act like he thinks people expect him to act. And what do you see drivers do when these things happen? They say the kinds of things you see George saying now, what he says out loud to the media is not necessarily at all what's going on inside of his genuinely I mean that is a compliment now. Gueninely saying, Oh, I'm lost. I don't know. He's like saying I don't know. I disagree I think the best you can say is we don't know for sure. Wait is that Christian? I think after raising number go sorry, no, you got you here. After raising number one, we were all like the Mercedes they're just, gone. Those two cars, they're just gone in the horizon. We're in Monaco now and San Li lapted Russell halfway through the race, right? That was a completely different in how they approach this race and completely different racing styles . And he was just out driving Russell in this weekend, I think. Yeah. Completely. The only reason Christian, that I think I'm focusing on Russell first is because he started the season just in his pomp. Absolutely this is my era . He arrived in testing. He was wearing a I don't know if you remember this. He was wearing a fully purple cloak and a laurel wreath and declared himself the emperor of the Western F one emperor and but the dive down from that has been so crazy I'm starting to get carried away so and I want Christian's input on this as well. I'm starting to get carried away because I know George Russell is not a mug. He's not a mug. There's no way. He's not a mug. We know he's a very good driver . Is Antonelli just a little bit the actual genuine bollocks when it comes to talents coming into everyone. Like I think I think there is a genuine chance like I'm held on to my seat and I'll be proved wrong. I think we're seeing a genuine phenomenon enter Formula One now . I mean when Russell was in Mercedes with Hamilton he sort of acted as listen guys, I'm beating this guy. I'm beating Hamilton. Aren't you seeing it guys? And then when Hamilton swifted toferarir, he was like , now I own this team . That has been sort of the vibe, right? So Anceoned just being this teenager crashing on his practice lab in Monza last the year before his first season and stuff like that. Totally underrated. Oh in Total ica, didn't he? Yeah, he lost the Bolton. Total Wolfa has continuously been asked to defend his decision to put such a kid in the car, right? And he has felt that last half year. Russell has felt that like energy coming from that side of the garage. And I think it can be really difficult to deal with when you are in his position where you're set, right . Yeah. So the thing he said after the race that made me go like, oh yeah, okay. So now I understand a bit more is he basically said, oh, you know, it's just so frustrating. Like I wish the team could just say oh there you hit that curb too hard and that's why your car stopped in Canada. But they can't tell me that. They don't know why these things are happening. And so I don't know how to not do them to keep them from happening. And to me as a driver, that's far more frustr ating than if you could say, Here's your mistake, here's your mistake, here's your mistake because then I can see it and I can fix it. So when you say his head's gone, I think what he's saying is the problems I'm having aren't ones I can solve by on my own . I can't fix I can't fix what happened to my car I can't fix the team starting to put the tire on too soon so I don't serve my penalty I have no control over that horrible and he can't help if the team just believes in Anton elli and are consciously or subconsciously developing towards him. That could be a thing that's happening. Okay, so let's focus on Kimmy Antonelli in this race. Where are the flaws? Because he is a frightening prospect to his rivals. So there's there was criticism last season. Yeah, can any rookie like keep it on track and not be crashing? All right, well, it's not been like that this year. He's not been crashing this year. He's won five in a row where his poor starts which first saw in the Miami Sprint it might be something to do with the turbos and whatever but last two races is a pretty good start we wheel to wheel is a good wheel to wheel. He seems he seems he's got the complete like lack of fear that nineteen year olds have because they don't know that the universe is a dark, cold, uncaring entity that will eat you alive. He doesn't know that yet. So he's just like, yeah, let's go. Let's do things. So there are no flaws in Antonelli's game. He has fundamentally good qualifying pace. It's fast. He has good race pace. We're not seeing him burn the tyres. We're not seeing him overhe at stuff. He's not crashing . He can he can deliver, you know, good start. He had to deal with a restart, two restarts. In fact, two restarts today and and put it on poll like where are the flaws in this kid right now? Where is the hope for anyone else that wants to compete with Antonelli right now? Just a short one before Matt can get this. I'm just gonna say when you have five successful races like this, that's going to be a downfall and it's inevitable. Well, so it's going to come. Statistics come. Statistically, it's not going to happen. But it's going to happen. It's gonna happen. But it's been a very solid run. Like I just I just don't think you can accidentally win five grandprix in your second season right at the beginning in a row but if I mean if you if you listen to what Matt is saying about Russell's lock this year that lock will move to the other side of the g arage at some point. He needs to happen soon, needs to happen soon. Matt. Matt, it needs to happen soon. Wasn't needs a miracle now . And I don't know if he needs a miracle. I think if you just even out reliability , there's your twenty there' fives point s right there. Okay, but what about even what about the things in his control? So to this race, he didn't qualify poorly, didn't have a good setup , did not realize what he needed to do for his penalty. Like he made an awful lot of m istakes this weekend No, he did he knew exactly what he had to do for his penalty. The Mercedes, the team specifically the left front corner started working on the car too soon when he came in and in fact, would you like me to take you through it? Antonelli got the call late to come into the pits on the first safety car lapse. So he went around a second time. Russell behind him got the call to stay out late the second time round. So he double stacked then the left front jack , not being prepared properly or having forgotten in the excitement of the moment of the double stack, started working on his car too soon. Therefore he doesn't serve the penalty . I don't know like where that problem started, but this is not in any way, shape or form, a George problem. Oh , and just to be fully clear about it, only Hamilton had been done for speeding when Russell got done for speeding. So it's not even you could be like half the grid's been done for speeding. So like, I don't know, dude, be very careful coming in. I have things to say about the speed speeding. I have things to say about the pit lane speeding. I have to quote Alex Van Gen's tweet that he did earlier, hilarious . For goodness sake, Mercedes, George is doing a good enough job of messing up this championship himself. This year, he doesn't need your help and I have cleaned up that tweet significantly. But yeah, it was like it doesn't rain, but it p aws. It's been horrible. It's been horrible to watch . I'm just going to add just a quick one. Actually Antonio was called in before he pit it but he stayed yeah he just he passed it like two meters or something like that when Bono gave him he showed the replay. He slowed way down under the safety car. He's like, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys. And then like come in and he's like, Ah, I can't, too late. I can',t you know, love it when Bono goes. Then you know it's real . Yeah . . So where are his flaws? Yeah, well, where's the hope? Where's the hope for anyone else right now? Okay , one, I just look at how aggressive he is all the time. Look at him behind George. I feel like you could easily impatient him into the wall if you were good until he learns not seen as Christian correctly points out what happens when he goes on a string of suppose you just take give him a couple more really good races and then give him six or seven rows of r aces like George just had. What does he do then? Where does his head go? So no. And let's remember that regarding the starks, yeah, he did get better at the clutch , but most of that was total politic ians Ferrari out of the advantage they gained with two years of planning and not much at all to do with his actual skill and talent. Aside from fixing the clutch issue, completely did it, good for him, but you're right, like the vibes are the potential is there for Hamilton versop and level career if he gets the right car and the regulations continue to suit, yeah? Yeah. look that okay this is a non a non race topic in a way because we're talking about Russell's career he he gave them a good reason to stop paying Hamilton billions and billions of pounds a year . Antonelli, they've specifically said, well, we can't turn down the opportunity to sign Antonelli. We lost the chance to sign Verstappen. We have to sign Antonio. We can't miss out on that. The whole time like yeah Russell is at the bottom of the swimming pool saying daddy daddy help me and no one was and then when Verstappen was actually available they spent so much time and it was never going to be Antonelli The writing's on the wall right this will be a subject for another time wr.iting The is on the wall for George Russell, I believe and Antonelli is the future of Mercedes . A small side effect of this is every time you have a very young rookie ish driver having success , it spurs all the teams on to looking in their younger ranks, right? So this is very good for the upcoming new formula One drivers in the corridors ? Yes. Okay, so yeah, George Russell Antonilli ends up lapping George Russell. So that is definitely a kind of a notch a notch on the bed post if you like for Antonelli. His starts look a little bit better. George Russell , you know , absolutely sick, so I think he got let off for the pit the full start. I don't think did it get a penalty for the full start? No, he didn't. Okay, that's that's fine for that. That's fine, but yeah, yeah, it was just a case of kind of depreciating returns, get stuck behind Hajjar. I was so sure that he was going to just absolutely chin it into Hajar at some point and take him out. Wow, there is your class. There's your thing that I wanted to bring up. Thank you for giving me the opportunity. We had all these changes to our energy rules. Oh y yeses,, anyone at any point ever say how much energy do I need to overtake between Rascass and Sandavot or between through the tunnel and down the down to the left hander? Because it would have been good if they'd f igured that out so that overtakes could have been made into those breaking zones legitimately as it is without straight line mode. . And without and without enough of an energy advantage . It really was I mean, come on, you saw how bad Hadjar's car was. Yeah. And look at how much time he lost on the restart. Yeah, if George had that much of an advantage and couldn't overtake, no one was ever overtaking unless the person had made a big booboo which he nearly did. So let's go to that Hadjar Russell battle and then sort of link that into Red Bull a little bit and obviously desperately unlucky for Verstappen covered on the the Saturday stream La Verstappen's performance was it was dynamic in qualifying. It wasn't to be and he was never going to get off the line. He clearly had some kind of mechanical issue, but in qualifying he had the overall, I believe he had the overall fastest potential . I had him very it should have been poll. And then before the race today I was like, I had him getting up the inside of or the outside of Antonelli and parking the bus. So it was a shame, definitely a shame we lost Verstappen because that would have been an element. So Matt will weigh in on that, but also the next subject I would like to do is Hajar. No, Matt, Verstappen, you were saying I was waiting for a bumper to be played Miles. Oh no Can't disappoint Matthew, can we ? Here you go . Are you happy now? You've had your pretty little sounds and video. Go on then. One here. I'm a New Yorker. I'm always disappointed . This is just my natural state. No, Hadjar , very interesting race , really a Ricardo style race except for and not for P one, not for P one. Yeah, not for P one, but the same basic problem. I have way less car than everyone around me. How well can I defend for seventy eight laps with a nice intermission? Almost gets done for illegal work in the pit lane and the thing that is turning out to be , I don't know, for me like it's not a thing that I vibe to, but like my wife, she's like, I love how dramatic he is on the radio. Really? That's like interesting. Anything he said, like he could be like, oh, you know, do I need to come in for tires? But he's so dramatic about it. My wife's like, he's like my favorite new diva on the radio. I'm torn. I go backwards and forward whether I like Hadjah or like oof dude what are you doing? Christian. I put in my notes. He should chill a bit. Chill bro. I just wrote Hadja, chill bro. I love the excitement. I love how much he 's going for it. But if you listen to all the other drivers, when they ask questions like who's the best film star of all the drivers? Yada, yada, when they come to the question, who has the most temper , most of them say hat y . So apparently he's he's kind of exciting and he should definitely learn how he's too urgent, you know? I think of the cat Stevens song Oh. very young . You know very young, what will you leave us this time? You're only dancing on this earth for us or time. It's like his sense of like scale for how important everything is. I think for me losing his absolute crap in Q one . I was like, what are you doing, man? You're in the wrong headspace. You're in the wrong headspace. And then it becomes a meme so fast these days , right? So I mean, you do it for two weekends and then all of a sudden you're the tempered guy. Paul H says, I don't like the screaming, it's annoying brackets. My teen daughter is not a fan cringe, apparently. Actually I think that's fair. It is a cringe. Okay, okay, so this is very harsh. It's embarrassing . He is it's embarrassing how he's coming across on the adult version of Cringe. I'm sorry. I feel really bad at saying that. It is embarrassing, isn't it? Matt? I would say by my cultural stand ards . Yes, but I am not French and I am not age. So perhaps perhaps that no, I'm just saying that that might be a normal. Are you saying but he's French? You're like, Oh, that's bad, but he's French. Come on I'm saying that I don't know French culture well enough to know if that's normal or not. Yeah. But like , so I'm gonna be slightly reserved about that judgment. For me, personally, yes, I agree. It doesn't come off the sacred bleu and there's losing your absolute crap. Yeah. It's like there is a . There is a standard French brushness which is different to say the standard Dutch like pragmatism and forthrightness yeah. You look like someone hit you with a hammer in the face and whilst I would love to be prejudiced towards a stereoty pical French behavior that that isn is'n't, t it. He there's genuinely an issue with how he's kicking off , it's not useful. It's just not the most useful thing. You've got a problem, the team's trying to work through it . It's very naive to think that then sc reaming at the team will just find a solution faster and what they're going to do come back on the radio and go Oh faster Oh why didn't we think of that? We've been oh, we were just doing it at a legendary pace . Basically, that's what I don't get about it when you hear that when they come into the pit after the session, don't they sit down and go like, listen, listen to this. Try and listen to this . Can you see what happens when this is what we broadcast from your car? Do you understand the message that we're broadcasting at Chill? We are one team. We do this together. I don't understand why . this Is is this who you want to be be would the question ? Yeah . So I don't have a radio button in my personal passenger car, but it might be because you've ridden with me before . However , I do find it keeps me from being stupid to just yell at people in the privacy and security of my car , which happens often because most people don't drive as much as I do and haven't had the same level of experience, blah blah blah. Doesn't matter, but it's a way of not doing something stupid but just verbally getting rid of that stress bubble , right? Yeah . So I would put it out there that perhaps that's a coping mechanism he has. But if it is, he needs to learn to not hit the radio button before expressing it. You know what I'm saying? Like he needs to do that, take a breath, then hit the radio button and say, So my fix isn't working. What's going on, guys ? Like I think Albin contextually did a much better job of saying why are you giving me all these weird instructions? Could you please explain to me I will do what you ask, but what the heck guys? It was great. Albon was great because what he was being asked to do was horrible. He said, Hey, could you sacrifice your entire existence? And what we want to do is we want to have Carlos Science drag you to a cliff of despair and then throw you off the edge so that you can click your fingers and get rid of half of the universe's population. We appreciate your sacrifice, Alex. And he very calmly went, well , but I don't really want to do that. And I mean I heard my firstborn, but fine, but why? Why? Okay, well, is there any way you could only set off for one leg? Like I have to give you two legs for the fire of eternal damnation? You don't really need all five of those digits, do you? But also who comes up with the idea with album can you wait if you wait thirty seconds on the straight for signs, alright ? I mean just in Monaco, I didn't get that. That was too risky . So here's the deal because I see people even in the chatter like, you know what? He's right. I don't understand. The deal is Alban had fresh tires. He was ahead of signs . So letting signs go ahead , Albin backs the field up enough so that signs can hit get tires, come out in front, then Albin gets the place back and Williams has effectively gained a bunch of places for signs because of this and it was a really great plan and it actually work ed super duper well until Halkenberg hit him on the restart. Oh man, he got just absolutely like in the Carol Hunter said, Oh, that's not enough. Let's have some more shy. It's like just the universe just it was not Carlos Science's day. It was him yeah. Chris, I don't think Holkenberg did anything malicious. Hang on. Who's fault is it? Okay , so the pack was is this after the pack was backed up by George Russell for just no reason . So George Russell goes, what can I do? Like what can I just do something? I'm going to back them up and it was just the most pointless hail Mary. There was literally no chance of that benefiting George Russell to just back the entire packup. I just think he felt like he had to do something . Don't you think that backing the packup, then clearing the track for you, get some heat into the tyres , find your pace. And did it did it when you've got a fifteen penalty deserve? Yeah, yeah, I did. Yeah. Oh man. Here's the thing . Like legitimately as a tactic you could argue, I know gaz ley has a penalty . If I back him into enough traffic , maybe someone gets round him and I get out soon enough, maybe I get ahead of Gazley. Like I pick up a position with his tactic like even the Coms guys on F one TV were like it took me a while to work out this might have been what George was thinking. But it's also like we saw Lewis do this against Rosberg and Abu Dhabi in fifteen like you only got the barest craziest of chances okay either take that chance or you don't. But if you don't take that chance there's no way it's going to work out better for you. So he took the chance firstly it was working out very poorly for Carlos and H ulkenberg, is he thing. Oh man. Firstly, it was twenty sixteen that Hamilton did that. Apologies. Yeah, no, I don't accept. You just need to get better at this kind of thing. I meant it and I don't care that I was wrong. Christie, it just was such okay. The tactic that Russell did absolutely encapsulates where Russell is right now. Heads gone. Oh, I'm just gonna randomly back up the midfield so that I can drive a little bit up the road, then serve my fifteen second penalty . What is that ? I have something I've moved on a little bit with what I'm going to say. I'm sorry for but that is because you started talking about Alban and go back If Alban didn't do that thing and just kept going on his fresh tyres, he would have finished sixth . He would have finished where Lindblurt finished, right? In front of him Lindblad. Explain more because of the safety car, Lindblad didn't have to pit so he could change his tyres. He wouldn't have been in front if Albon has just went . So So right, science probably science of scored any points if they had not done it though isn't what was a better outcome and that's what that's going to be the argument always. Yeah. Also we need to we haven't talked about the final result. The final result is in finally this is Sunday night, right? Oh wow. So Fernando Alonso got his first point now. Well, well done Fernando Alonso, but I'm livid that that comes at the expense of Perz is his first fight. Horrifying. I love it because no matter what happened, old guys won. So yay win. Well, Paris is thirty four, I think, isn't he? That's old enough one years my friend. Sergio Perez age. Obviously Yolanto's my age . Perez is thirty six, okay, not as young, not as young as I thought. Yeah. Basically same age as me. Yeah. So do you think Astonartin are gonna be having a party about their one point . No, no. It's a default point. It's an attrition point. If Cadillac had got that point , they would have been, you know, they would have just celebrated with tequila, they would have celebrated with garlic and onions and red wine and baguette and they would have just they would have attacked what's the nearest French town to Monaco? I think they would have gone and like invaded Dijon. No , they'd have gone up the hills and just invaded Dijon, that would have been a must . But no Dijon is in France. Dijon mustard. But that's far away from Monaco . Dijon mustard, I think is right over the hill. No. Dijon mustard, the second best mustard compared to English mustard. It would have been a better st ory, I think for the Cadillac point. Instead, they gave it to Alonso and he's sleeping in his plane right now, not caring at all like it. Probably calling it his best ever point in F one. I don't even know. Before we just before we move away from Williams though, how unlucky was signs the whose fault is it bumper played? So we have to address that. I don't think Holberg was doing too much wrong to be honest. It was they were they were side by side. If we want to say whose fault is it between Holkenberg and Signs , Russell . It's George Russell's fault that that incident happened. And then it's also George Russell's fault that Colopinto then at Portier just ended up for good measure just went Oh you survived. No sir, no sir. I don't feel like dancing. If you tuned in for the Friday practices , you would hear the racing bulls complaining about their steering locks. So they basically set up the car's room so they couldn't they couldn't turn the and that is very different from car to car and I'm pretty sure the Audi's their steering lock didn't allow them to do like the U. They had to do a really wide U . The same for the Ferrari actually. Some of the cars could do like a really beautiful U , but not all of them. And I'm pretty sure Henolberchg was on his steering look and then suddenly all of a sudden there was a car there, right? He couldn't do anything so racing incident. Yeah, Holkenberg he's not like a menace. There was that moment in twenty twelve Interlagos turn one, whiched I'll never quite forgive him for, but he's not generally a menace. So it's that classic three wide where the outside guy doesn't know the inside guy is there and the middle guy backs out and just smash and I think that's really Hulkenberg . Okanadah dove outside to avoid someone. Hulkenberg dove inside to avoid same person into the turn and looks up and there's signs and he's got full lock on and no more braking he can do and just like under steers out of the hairpin directly into side . And really you're correct. The conditions for this were caused by George backing everyone up. But even if George hadn't, honestly, Hagjar was so frickin' slow , it might have been that way anyway. I thought both Williams had been taken out from the sequence of events . So you see into out of the hairpin, you see a Williams get turned around, and then there's another shot of Portier with a Williams driving away from the tunnel towards Portier and you go, Oh, both Williams are out. You go, No, that was signed both times. How was that signs both times? Oh dear, poor boy they clipped his rear tire and so when he had to turn down for going into the tunnel and Colopento thought he was slowing too much down so he thought he could take the inner side but he couldn't. So yeah just braingz incident again bas,ically . Okay, before we go to the oh, I think this is a good excuse to go to the penalties. Let's go to Ferrari . I am a Lewis Hamilton fan and I am a Leclerc fan in so much as I don't wish him any specific harm. So I'm not I'm not specifically cheering on Leclerc. I'm relatively happy if he has a good result . I think he seems like a really lovely person. He seems like a good sportsman. He has good values. He's tough on himself. There's a lot to love about Leclerc. Unfortunately, you are the teammate of my favorite driver, which is Lewis Hamilton. So I'm wishing Lewis Hamilton well. And it's been it's been a very funny weekend where both these drivers have approached the weekend in a very different way. So we were in qualifying . I'm chatting the WhatsApp group with the guys on the panel and you know, Vang comes up with well, it's Monaco. It's Monaco. So the clerk's going to crash. It's win or bin like he's either going to crash or poll and it's correct. He does seem to have this strange thing about Monaco. I'm sure Lewis Hamilton loves Monaco as well, but his attitude was more around how can I just fine tune what I'm doing? How can I build on the core foundational work of Alferari and my engineering team that I've been doing. How can I bring my new lady friend into the paddock and make sure that she has a fantastic time for the love of God do not answer any questions that Martin Brundel asks you just to have your burly security block you. Again, you know, the contrast between teammates at Ferrari was stark. Very, very different weekends. I will say I will say as a Hamilton fan and I would say now a long suffering Hamilton fan. We had good times, but we had we've had some bad times. I feel like the bad times are ending. In Canada, I said he looked like Lewis. Now I will say he looks like the best human version of Lewis Hamilton. When you hear him talk, he sounds like he has the wisdom of old people. Yeah, when you listen to his interviews when he was young, you are stupid young people , but I was stupid young people at that time as well. You listen to interviews with Hajar. One of my favorite drivers on the grid right now is Arvid Limblad. But when you listen to him, you are so young. He speaks into such young people ways. But we've watched Hamilton evolve. And now when he talks, he just he chats like a middle aged man, he chats like someone who's happy in himself. He chats like someone who respects his mother has a good relations hip with his father and has found a fresh, delightful new squeeze to hang out with in the F one Paddock. So Matt, this is you know, I would say this is one point to Hamilton in whatever battle we want to say Ferrari. This is this is a good Hamilton weekend. The best possible weekend he could have hoped for. Yeah, his new squeeze and Kim Kardashian. I mean, that's double right there. Yeah. Well, car. Oh no , there was a there was an interview interview with Charlotte and I will I have so much insight for you on this particular issue because let's face it. I have none. I want to talk about what happened to him . Why it happened? Like because after all stuffing into the wall, going into rascass is an embarrassing anyone who's a formula driver never mind somebody as good as him. And that was his second crash of the weekend. So he crashed into in Q three and then he crashed into was it Rascas or was it Anthony Nokes? Was it Rascad? The last one? Is that no thing? It's the Rash Nox. Well, that's the same place where Stroll crashed. So this will take place nicely into the red flag topic, which is good . Right So what happened is F one TV caught up with him long enough after the incident that he was not being properly minded by Ferrari, which I love . And he goes, I don't know. There's issues. I don't know how much I should tell you. Okay, here's everything . The brakes on our car have been atrocious from the beginning of the season, and I hate them with all my gallic passion. And we've been working on a fix. In fact, there is a fix , but it's on Lewis's car and I chose not to run it because Monaco, I felt I was better off staying with a known problem and trying to learn brand new brakes for Monica. You can decide if that's a good idea or not just and and then going into that turn he's like the way I'm braking it's, like I can't use the brakes or just I just lean on them. I can't really, really brake. And on that turn, he goes, I had no rear brakes. Like the rear brakes just didn't operate . And then when I started to stand on it, I had too much front and I lock up and into the wall. However , yours truly has gone back and done an onboard comparison of the lines thanks to a tip from Juan Pablo Montoya who didn't actually tell me this personally he just said it on TV . But we can just pretend he might have just sent it to me personally, if you feel like and where the asphalt breakup was , there was an inside of the tear in the asphalt and there was an outside of the tear in the asphalt. Lewis went fully inside of the tear, had almost no pickup on his left front. Leclerc went outside of the tear, had loads of pickup. You can see it being flung off. He's turned in correctly and he does it but the car just literally just keeps on going in the same direction. There's no bite at all on that outside tire. . What I don't know is whether or not the lack of rear brakes is the reason he was outside of that tear. I don't know. I'm not sure if it's a lack of rear brakes. This is a thought and I actually I think it might be too much action on the rear brakes. okay, so if this was just a pure V eight, then you would have all four wheels, you'd hit the brakes and if you have a neutral brake bias all four wheels would pinch at the same rate , right ? But you can choose then to go backwards or forward. So you can play with it and you can say, right, if we've got a big heavy stop, perhaps we'll put the brake bias forward because all our braking is in a straight line or you might choose to say right actually we need to brake very gradually to move the weight over. So we do want the weight to go forward but we want it to go forward progressively. So you can use the braking for steer ing. If you have unexpected brake bias adjustment caused by the hybrid region system choosing to apply those brakes differently, it totally affects your balance. So I feel like this, I feel like I'm onto something. So what are you Matthew allow me to Matthewin Christian. Rame it correctly. The region is only rear brakes . Yes, understood. So if your car normally says when you apply rear brakes into the last corner , this is a chance for me to pick up a lot of energy , then it applies a lot of essentially runs the motor in reverse, picks up a lot of electrical energy , which works like brakes. And so then your rear brakes go, aha, that's happening. So now I will use less hydraulic pressure so you get roughly the same amount of brake pressure. This is a way . I'm just not sure this weekend that was working for a lot of teams. If you are behind a safety car and you have an absolutely full battery despite your best efforts and you go to step on that, the rear brakes think, oh the MGUK is going to take care of it. The MGK is like, dude, I just ate. I'm not up for another waffer thin mint of energy , you than sok much. Oh waffer. Then suddenly you just have no rear brakes at all. And then you lean on your front brakes who are like, Oh, dude, man, you have not set me up correctly for this situation. I'm just gonna bail. And oh, say hi to the wall for me. And that's what happened. One small point that Leclerc said in the same interview, we saw the same interview was and he was sort of like fixed on I can't talk about this. I'm not allowed to talk about this, but then suddenly he let all these small things slip out. One thing he said was I was not supposed to even breaking that corner or I was not supposed to press the brake panel, only tap it in that corner. Tap is wrong. Brush, brush. Yeah, brush, yeah. And when you say that, that means you're probably reliant on the region instead of breaking . So when the region messes up, you're suddenly not breaking and it was the exact same as over with Land Stroll. Car basically just went straight ahead. So So okay, so I think that Leclerc said my brakes didn't work. That's this whole thing. My brakes didn't work, therefore I can't slow down enough. But that's not, it's not as simple as that. So for Leclerc is I can't if I 'm going probably I'm going at the right speed to take this corner normally . But because my brakes aren't being applied the way I want it to, I don't have the weight on the right place therefore I don't have the Stroll's thing was I feel like the Reenge or whatever was pushing the car forward and therefore was kind of forcing an understeer moment for him. So it does feel like two subtly different crashes at the same point Property Yeah. The larger issue and it's been the only issue all season, predictability. The drivers are getting outside their ability to manage with regards to predictability of the throttle and predictability of the bra ke. And when that happens, you get exactly the kinds of incidents like Leclerc had. And I feel bad. I think it was not a bad choice, honestly, say it's Monaco. I'm better off with brakes I know really well, even if they're not perfect. I don't think he was wrong about that. Maybe. But like, oh gee, and this is just like this. Oh, well, this software has never encountered this corner before being driven in a race before. And oh look, we've turned up an unexpected parameter. We'll have to fix on the next iteration of the software. Well, that's great. Meantime, your driver is in a wall . I do feel though that it's reasonable to think that Leclerc's risk reward , high percentage, low percentage dial was probably the wrong side of sensible at Monaco. And it's almost like over the course of the weekend he'd gone on tilt. You know, so you when you when you lose a pinball and you start shaking the table and it says no tilt like so he'd already had , you know, mess ups and he ruined qualifying, you know, and you go, is he pushing to really find this result? And the other thing with Leclerc Matt is that in his mind , Hamilton got a penalty for speeding the pit lane. And then Hamilton got told to pit, which was correct for Hamilton, but he wanted to stay out and oh, did you see in the WhatsApp chat or panel chat? didn't miss. Me and Carl was screaming at each other because I'm like, he's going, Pitt, obviously, Pitt. I'm like, No. I think it's right. So for Hamilton, Pitt, no brainer, get rid of that penalty, no brainer. But I was looking at it from Clerk's point of view because he was chasing down Hamilton. And it's like, no, a hundred percent stay out track position , stay out all day long. Then that's P two . And I believe he had already pitted. He already satisfied the regulations. He didn't have to for sporting reasons. No news of correct . So it would have been smart actually . The smartest we're going to look at it in hindsight. The smartest play was leave Lewis out . What? No, no, no because Lewis would have no because he would have then had his five second added to the end. So they added to the end correct bring Charles in for new for new boots the way it would have worked out. Louis would have been ahead of Charles at the red flag and he would have got new tires and had five seconds added to him at the end of the race and Charles would have got the result he wanted instead he put it on the wall and we don't have to worry about it too much , but it did feel from a sporting point of view a bit unfair . But what I don't know is how much time he would have lost had he done another circuit and then come in. He might have lost places if he had done don't know Mark Mark here in our Patreon chat says if only we knew where the track position is important at Monaco like yeah, that's it this is absolute no brainer and thing is he would have been P two on old tyres and then if there was another safety guard that then he gets the red flag which he caused in the end. Yeah, it was caused the red flag. It was his red flag. If they had not restarted that by the way, he would have been on the podium. If they had not found a way to restart, the clerk would have been on the podium with countb ack, which is which is quite funny. But yeah, I just think like a Monica, any opportunity to get ahead of even one car, that is the main aim, that's the main goal. So yeah, of course they are. Worst case scenario stay out and Hamilton overtakes you. That's the worst case scenario. He has every right to be livid at Ferrari for not letting him choose the optimal strategy for him. Live it, I tell you . No. And again, you're gonna find someone who was looking at something like, well, but if you came in next thing , oh, well, what if I didn't come in? Oh , yes. Good, good point. We'll add that to the algorithm for next time. Yeah, it's that same thing you just turn up these weird I don't know though . It was the thing that's getting missed here and I'm going to go back to his qualifying real quick. If you don't mind last point, super quick. These years is a step harder tire. So this year soft is last year's medium. How many last s did they do on that tire last year? I'm amazed that anyone ran anything other than a soft medium combination and he going for his third flap in a row and qualifying the tire was standing up to it . Yeah it just yeah it should have been more like a sprint race qualifying based on how hard the tyre was relative to the circuit. Mia F one in our Patreon discord. By the way, join us in our Patreon discord. Says I counted at least four times Charles hit bounced off walls. He's over driving again like when he first arrived at Ferrari. I think my only issue with that would be he's overdriving at Monaco. So there's very clearly a specific incentive to drive like that specifically at Monaco. Just a quick admin thing, two things. Please do support us at Patreon. com forward slash mistake . It is the only reason that we have survived well other podcasts. I don't want to say like less good podcasts, but podcasts that aren't as good have been unable to survive and to stay. The reason we're staying here is because of our patrons and our partners so please patreon. com forward slash mysterpex, give it a try. If you are a sim racer, an i racing driver, join us for a very busy F four British Grand Prix I racing grid by emailing spanners at Mistapex. net and I'll give you all the details you need to join us, Christian. I was going to ask you about Monaco generally . Oh, really? Okay , but yeah, but I'm going to wait with that for just a second. I'm just gonna find that while we talk about Ferrari and Leclerc and Hamilton , when I totally get why Monaco can be a little bit boring . But just watching Friday practice, Hamilton going into the swimming pool, how the car just dances in and how Leclerc was going out of the swimming pool, how he brushes the I mean , that was just so that was so real and so raw and that is why I love Monaco watching just that. But hang on Leclerc tactic racing as well. Leclerc's tactic works until it suddenly doesn't. It looks amazing until it suddenly looks like the worst . He's also sort of like the king of Monaco, right? He lives there. He's so it's so spot on. I want him to be like that. I don't want him to be like Sean . Sean is taking issue with you saying a little bit boring . I must say something's happened in the chat. The comment from Mark earlier on and this one from Sean and everyone's really on it . Because I think we're radicalized the propaganda around Monaco has radicalized us. The race was boring until it was. The race was awful until the final, until the safety car was introduced, which is a nice bit of luck for us to be entertained. The racing was terrible, awful. It's an awful place to go racing. It's terrible. Okay, Spanner. So if a normal race , you can go from zero to hundred, right? Zero to hundreds. The best race ever. Yeah. What would you say an average monaco is? How down can we go? What's the bos?s Zero is the worst ? No, because you can you can go beyond not only immediately you reach for the minus around okay so it gets five I would say five out of a hundred for pretty race cars going round and you being able to watch them, but it would lose minus fifteen for the dogged insistence of going there time after time after time expecting the result to be anything different. Okay, so my follow up question is ten minus ten. You at minus ten, that would be your average monaco race. Where was today's race? Today's race was about a three and a half on the go. That's it half full . So to be fair, with Baku, we've always said , if you have a well timed safety car that can mix up the action and strategy, it does make it a better race. The safety cars and the ripped up track and maybe the promoters of Monaco like this , this is dull . This is dull . Order sixty six. Sir, are you sure? The Tarmac order? The yeap deploy order sixty six and then the mole people go underneath Anthony Nokes and start like messing with the concrete throwing up the mole people . Yeah, so yeah, look a well timed safety car, fine. It did give us a little excitement. But really like what happened after the safet y car? Signs got punted because Russell was being weird. There was no change for the lead . There was no real kind of overtake. There was still no competitive overtake for position. On track , I agree. There was interesting strategy happening, however. You had Russell undercutting Hadgar, you had Bereman and a bunch of other people stopping essentially on lap one . How good would that have come looking at Lindblad who started fifteenth and finished seventh was it? Yeah Christian Alpha Come out very good for the teams that did that. There was a lot of strategic things tried , but the way the race ran out, we're just very lucky that Stroll hit a wall, which I mean, what are the odds of that, right? We're like Stroll hit a wall because that made the last twenty or so laps extremely interesting and exciting in a way . And I love that random thing I remembered. They ask Antonelli, geez. He's like, Yes, you know, I don't want to do the start again, but then I think about it and then I look at the data and I' fmine. And I'm like, oh , there we go. The man looks at data to calm himself down. I can relate to that. I had a very good tweet and I've forgotten. Thank you Mia for pointing it out, but I've forgotten who sent it to me, but it said it was a tweet at me saying Monaco's not fit for purpose for a Guampree circuit in twenty twenty six. Absolutely agree. If it must be included, have it as race one , parade the new liveries, banish it to the books of history and let the season start proper in racing. That's actually not a terrible idea. It becomes like a livery launch like they had in London, you know, where they had the livery launch. So have Jack Whitehall go there, host all the livery launches interviews and then go for quote unquote a race around Monica get an on championship event. That's fine and make sure you have another weekend like the next weekend so that like yeah I vote for that. Yeah, I mean I love it but that's always why we think Australia is such a good circuit because all the craziness of the first race of the year happens out of it. Yeah . In addition to the, you know, just usual racing. Yeah . No, go matt. You're there. My family asks, is this going to be a more exciting race because of the regulations? And my reply was, well, last year were two meters wide, now they're one point nine meters wide. So no. Completely different I was watching the harbor during the race, right? Did you notice like all the people dancing on the boats? They were dancing this dance where you like first you point one hand through the sky and then you bring the hand down and you point the other hand through the sky . then And you do it to music that sounds a little bit like David Getzer, but it's not really , but it's all sounding like this. They were wearing clothes like in sandy colors. Guys, I'm really sorry. You have to remember Christian is an hour ahead in Denmark and his meds like his meds have won off. Yes . And it was in the water. I have this question. Okay , on the bottom of the sea , does lobsters fish are flying? I love that. So what you're saying is, our fish the birds of the ocean. Exactly. Okay , please tell me what that has to do with the Monaco Grandprix . I thought I wanted to build a bridge to like the next topic or okay. And the next topic is got to be the measurement. Oh yes, right. Okay, pit lane penalties. What the hell was going on with that? Okay, so I'm a little mad. So first Hamilton bias. So obviously I was initially enraged by the fact that it was a Hamilton penalty investigated Dunn. It was immediately. And in this era of, well, I'll investigate that in three weeks time and see if it affects Verstappen. Yeah, but for Hamilton, it's like no, immediately like he will be taken from this place and and hung from the neck until dead dead dead. So that was just immediate . And then back another one and then another one and then at what point did the stewards go , hang on there . Maybe there's something going wrong. So from under investigation to penalty , really. Re Ially really think and I know Hamilton's penalty didn't count in the end and it was undone, but I really think if you have that many of the same kind of penalties, surely you just get rid of them all and go they are all back under investigation. Yo. May I you may present a list of penalties? Penalties? Yes. Hamilton lap thirty four, Russell Lap thirty eight, Calipento Lap forty three, lap fifty two. We had Gazille, lap fifty five pastry, lap sixty six Gazley behind the safety car through the pit lane. Finally, lap sixty seven Russell got his penalty for not serving his penalty correctly. Oh man, that was the list. And you're right, Hamilton, I was like, oh, man, really Lewis. Are you like having the shakes? Man was going on there. Like as a old guy I get it like you get the shakes sometimes. Then Russell, I'm like, oh, Russell, dude, you 're just you're a tri guard. That's too much. And then Colopend like, wait a minute. In Gaza, I'm like, Oh, come on. Yeah, and here, start history as well. I think it was sucks in the end . I think some of the problems were caused by America , America with the cause problems? Because Cadillac had to have an extra garage fitted there to knock down buildings and then build another, what's it? So I think the shape of the pit lane chang ed. So maybe the average speed changed? I don't know. Interesting. You should bring it up. Christian, did you have something? Or are you just like happily enjoying my recitation of things? Or would you like to talk about the viewpoints of se aed b creatures for an extended period of time. You absolutely want a mad bastard. Do you remember that old sketch show in England called Little Britain? Yeah . And if you're from the States and you haven't seen it, definitely go check it out. There's a sketch in there that's based on computer says no right, where someone goes into an office and ask a question and just like computer says no . And I feel like that about the Stuarts. Like no, it's a penalty , penalty to you penalty to you. No further thought, like just no common sense to go like hang on in a minute . Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah . So the TLDR is they use timing loops and sensors on the car to determine the speed of the car in the pit lane and they have multiple timing loops throughout the pit lane . And you're right in the sense that if you look at the pit lane, it's a bit curvy . So what they do is they work out a distance between the loop . They use that distance and the timings of the car to calculate its speed. Here's the thing, because it's curved , if you took enough of the corner cut into the pit lane after the timing line , you were actually traveling a shorter distance than they had calculated . Therefore, even if you were traveling at sixty kilometers an hour, which was the limit, because you traveled a shorter enough distance you actually were calculated as being over the limit. This is my understanding of exactly what happened and why it happened. But what's amazing is you've got a real problem. There's not a sporting regulation against cutting the corner the way any of the drivers did. All of the drivers were on the pit line limiter probably before they got to the timing line and yet they got a penalty for going faster than they were actually going because a distance was a minimum distance wasn't calculated like they didn't imagine the drivers could make that short of a distance out of a curve, which hello, have you ever met a driver, but still when you said you're sorry man, I thought you were not Kristin I am Kristin because you brought up that Gazley and Alpine are going to appeal this. So tell me about that . Yeah, we desperately need to hear from the Sea People Council apparently, Christian. So please tell us a text. Apparently Gastly just got another penalty . Really? Yeah, just let me know. And one again. He's got five now. No, I'm kidding, of course, but what I was the thing about the measurement of a pit lane speed is you have to set it, you have to sort of like bring in a tolerance, right? And I think they go around like half a kilometer an hour, so you set your pit limits to fifty nine point five, something like that. What bothers me a little bit is that they don't have to have any sort of variation or bendy stuff. It's just hardcore to the line and you just trust all your gear and all your people and there is no doubt it is like we say it is we are a there were some excellent noises that you made from your mouth . Thank you so much. Your contribution has been absolutely fantastic. We're going to move on to the podium. But before we do, make sure that you follow me on social media. Like I say follow Matt, and I know none of you do, and I get it. Hey, no, I get it. It's fine. So concentrate all your efforts on following me. Spanner's ready on Instagram. That's where I post all my thirst traps and things for my personal life. Spanner's ready on Blue Sky and Twitter X as well and missed apex F one on all your vertical scrolls. So we do try to post stuff like that. I would love you to check out my latest Instagram reel. Me and Chr is did a funny thing about dating in your twenties and think that could launch my stand up career and then I can be even more the best one. But we will have all those links in the show notes below including, at M att PT fifty five, Christian like flip flops because he had celebrity when he was like twenties, thirties. He's now he has trauma. He's like, no, don't follow me. I don't want your attention. No, no, madam, no, madam I, 'm not available for the things you're asking for. So he just does not want to be followed anywhere. Let's go to our podium . The Monaco Grandpri, the jewel in the crown , so they say, and some people say that it's part of the triple crown, a notoriously enigmatic and completely made up thing that makes Monaco seem relevant. Okay, look, I think I held up my part of the bargain where I said I would not be super negative about Monaco. I kept up that end of the bargain until I didn't, but yeah, what? So I can't lie anymore. I will you know, die on the hill that obviously we're not going to get good racing there, but we do get good stories. Every single Grandpri is not so much a super bowl, but it is a story and you can see within whatever challenge a race track throws up, the teammate battles are interesting. We had so many drivers do things that affected the balance between them, right? Hamilton definitely looked like the stronger overall package at Ferrari. Antonelli absolutely curb stomped that teammate battle against George Russell . Perez again showed that he has a much better grip and pace and understanding and Botass with all his energy was throwing cars through Rascass, throwing cars through Anthony Nokes with , you know, negative, negative camber and oversteer , dancing and and dicing and trying his best to be relevant in that teammate battle. We even saw Piastry shut the door fairly rudely on his teammate. No papaya rules. Are there papaya rules anymore? No, apparently not. Because then Norris was then sacrificed on the altar of Piastri's race to hold people up and and then then go out and we had teammate battles like up and down the grid like that like Lawson. The Lawson looked fantastic directly compared to Limbad. So yeah as much as I would like to say, right?'t Don tell me this is the best race . It is a different race. It is a race where people still have to take the opportunities. The points are the same. So you can't sit this race out. You can't give up any points. It is definitely still an event on the calendar that you have to maximize. So in this section, we are going to ask who our panel think hit the Apex and missed the Apex. So we'll start off with the negative one . Oh no, you missed the Apex So that we can end on a positive note. Christian Patterson , you mad Viking fellow , who missed the Apex for you? This is the Bad Thing Award. I would like some more penalties. Oh extra. So the stewards lazy, lazy. Yes. Is that all they've got? Is that all they've got in terms of shots of celebrities doing nothing in the p edal needing more . There wasn't that many. It was all very Kardashian based, wasn't it? Exactly. Actually I'm gonna I'm gonna get on your boat on this one, Spinas . I'm gonna go to the party on your boat and we're gonna do the dance where we point to the stars and I'll follow your we have to do something about the monoco. That wasn't my dance that wasn't my dance. I'm not dancing your dance. No one involved old man dance and you're dancing it on the boat. I do want you to get off my lawn. You are welcome on my boat. I will dance right next to your lawn. Race. What is your Mist Apex award? It's the Monaco Race. We need to do something about it . I mean the Saturday is perfect, Friday is perfect. We need to do something about the overtaking in Monaco. There's nothing you can do. There's nothing. Yeah, there is no could they do bikes for this wee kend? There is nothing you can do to make the overall season car spec an entertaining racing grandprix at Monaco. It's impossible. impossible. I could stick one finger in this year and one finger in this year and then stick . And oh welcome to the board of the Monaco Grand Brie. Like you very much you've got a job for life. It's not going to change. It's never changed. There can be some chaos. There can be some random elements that make it somewhat even the most random exciting monaco grandprix is ottom of every single season. Like okay sorry sorry sorry I forgot about Poricard apologies I did forget about Paul Ricard What that was a completely unnecessary Paul Ricard . I just it's just the France of it all . It's so beautiful all colors and you can just drive anywhere you like. Hey, France. France . Hey, France. We got this great product that everyone loves called Formula One. Would you like to compromise you know, would you like to contribute? Oh yes, we will bring you send them pull recard. Those stupid English big dogs. They don't even know where they are going. Matt is just letting you fry you know that? He's just saying I'm not getting Matt two rumpets you are at Matt PT fifty five everywhere who missed the apex for you so don't hate on me, but I gotta say , Perez costing Cadillac their first championship point. Oh, I hate you. let's just be honest , he winded up in the wrong grid spot to start the race and then when he went back out, he couldn't even put the car in his own grid box when he found it. So I mean you did finish tenth, good for you. You've been faster than your teammate. Brilliant. We love the fightiness, but I mean, like there are some basic things that you also you gotta tie the shoes, dot the I's, cross the T's. You know what I'm saying? That spanners. I celebrated the pretest so hard . So So I'm just sat in my little office, you know, when as like I was so happy when the leaders crossed the line like I was like get in there Kimmy, get in there Kimmy, get in there Loomis really happy, absolutely delighted . But Perez Pet, I couldn't believe it. I just could not believe it. And I was like, that felt honestly, I would take my shirt up over my top, run around the garden, like, hell yeah, Vamos. Ramos, Serjio. Let's go. And then it's been ripped away , but the core performance is there. So I am still definitely a massive Paris fan and I think by default Cadillac fan. I'm wishing them the best I. And set very low expectations for them at the beginning of the season. And my first expectation was run a full race without being lapped and then they finish in the points. And I think for all but just some technicality, Reperez 's performances have been F one point worthy and it's a great foundation for Cadillac. So I'm really take your Miss Apex award for Cadillac and rip it up into a tight metal ball wrapped in spikes and I throw it at you repeatedly on an elastic string so I can have it back and throw it again. And I throw and I fight in your general direction . But was my mother hamster? Yeah Your mother was a big dog. Okay, fine. Me. So who missed the Apex from me? Okay , it's got to be I would say it's the entry of Russell Mercedes. What number is George Russell six or something or sixteen or sixty three? sixty three sixty three, very random. The entry that is George Russell and his team, no, nobody know. A terrible weekend at every point set, up in the wrong direction, the strategy in the wrong direction pace in the in the wrong direction. The driving style and technique just seemed at odds with what everyone else was doing, ability to serve your penalty correctly dithering on whether you should undercut or wait for I think the team actually fair will pushing for wait till Hagar gets out the way and he's like no I want to go for the undercut and then speed in the pit lane and probably nice well and then get the penalty and come back. And then just the random the random tactic of just for no reason at all backing up the entire pack from P six. Was he in P six at the time? Just for no reason, just for no reason like I've got to do something. I'll just back everyone up and see what happens. The only motivation for that I can think of would be if I back everyone up there will be carnage and a safety cart and then who knows something will happen . So yeah, start to finish fail. Oh, and I'm going to include the Mercedes Admin team in that the social media team that decided to post side by side a happy picture of Antonelli on Poll and a very sad clearly please don't take a photo of me picture of George Russell in P six. That whole entry have had an absolute nightmare. I don't know what you can do between here in Barcelona, but do it , do anything , do anything differently . Okay Positive thing. Now we get to be super positive . This is where we get to be like, oh, what is the thing of the weekend? What's the thing we love the most? I think mentioned in dispatches would be the Monaco crew. Every single time a car was beached, they just have the infrastructure to pick it up and pull it away . When they had that problem with the Tarmac , they just did the sensible thing. Like you could overthink it. I saw suggestions like quit drying cement . Cover it su inper glue and he's like, No, no, the sensible thing is move, brush away as much as you can in a human dronic fashion, brush away anything loose , warn everyone and then carry on racing. So the Monica Grandpri definitely gets a notice in that, but I will give my overall thing of the weekend. I know he has a good car. I know his teammate is struggling, but it is absolutely impossible to not give thing of the weekend to little tiny baby Kimmy Antonelli. Like what on earth are we watching? What on earth are we seeing? History, history. Does it have a eyes on you? You can chip in. I want to have its eyes on you. Matt, thing of the weekend, let's go. Did it die? You haven't thought about it . You know what? You know what? I'm gonna go with because you went first and took Antonali from me and you knew I was going to say that I'm going to go with the fact that at the restart, it was Hamilton or Antonalee. I'm like, you know what? I'm good with either one. That's that's a win for either one in general, right? Like I'm going to be happy no matter what happens. I'm so unhappy that I've never supported more individual drivers than I do now. So I've never been like, oh, if they win, that would be great. Oh, I hope they get a good result. It's like, I've become everything I hate just somewhere Oh as long as everyone has a good time . Can we give them all the job? I really I don't hate enough people in F one at the moment. That's the that's the issue Modern PR and social media . Anyone I would want to hate, they either change it, realize that it's bad and then adapt or like they're a baby and you can't really hate them. I'm like, where's where's the shoemakers? Like give me a shoemaker to hate. Give me a Rikan to hate. Come on. Ell the edges off Verstappen. I don't know what you can do with that point. Yeah, even like okay Vista , strong candidate for big bad. Like if you want if you want an F one baddy, strong candidate, yeah, he's delightful on his streams. He seems like a really good father and husband slash boyfriend or whatever. It's terrible. Yeah. And he's like friends with everyone and he makes jokes and he's lighthearted. He's dumb. Like worst ever antagonist daddy , worst ever baddy terrible. He would not survive in the Sith terrible Christian problem for the DTS series basically there's no rivalry anymore. It's so I need they all friends and stuff. I need . I need beef. Christian. I know we can only pick one, but you can have many you can have seven. Okay. Oh, nice. Yeah, 'cause you're danished and you pay more tax, so you gain more very much. This is how we exactly that's this drone overhead shot. I love that drone overhead shot. Right. And the helicopter as well. There was a helicopter . Just that static drone overhead shot. They use it at other venues as well. that drone shot was as they came up through, hang on, the left hand that's over before the Casino square it's Matinee or they used two different positions with the drone , but it's just static. It's not moving. It's just overhead, right? The static one was as they go matinee and then explain right hand Sina Square into the hair pin. That one was spectacular I'm gonna mention the sound of the Audi when it downshifts , it sounds so rod like a , I love that. When the audi downshift that what you're hearing is a complaint . So that the Audi does not want to. So you downshift yourself I for one, I know the last time I was on, you were all like I was I'm pretty impressed by the audi and all of you were pointing your fingers and screaming you see your tone. No horn helmeted gradient. Yeah. No because Audi did they'd done something different for sure . But yeah, they are going to struggle. If you'd have said what engine is going to struggle at Monaco, I'd have said Audi straight away. Not including Honda. But the way also they incorporated the yellow this weekend . I just love that. Oh, I love this. It's so out , it's so on point. It's so German. It's it's so much everything is in concrete. It's in munchin. Yah So because you're Danish, you're basically like you and Germans, Danish and Germans, they're you're like cousins. You're like Arsene they're French and the Scots, you know, it's very kind of there's a saying in German Ordnum Musign, right? Where it has to be in order. You have to things have to be I guess people yeah, cool. I like that. I 'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. I hate the Audi livery . I hate what they've done. I hate the concept. I hate the split. The great thing is, it's my turn now to talk about all the positive things. The yellow made it worse. The yellow made it worse, you're wrong, shut up the yellow made worse I've said all my things. I just want to mention oneed last thing I heard James Allison say that the development break at this moment is a quarter of a second a month. Wow. I find that very impressive just for this generation of cars that just imagine one month is two point five two hundred and fifty . Yeah, you know what I mean? They're going in the . It's the numbers. I tell you what, they're confident and they've got their chests out they're puffing their chests . So you know, like HARS, like if you hear about HARS development, they're like, pause, we're busy. Ask a ask Tina and account . Whereas if you ask Audi, they're like, Oh, Aldi, if we are we are set on a path. We're joining in their heads, they are joining the top four and that is their full on unashamed ambition. They will get there. It's a promise . They yeah, well they sure are trying . It's you know when you're on a podcast like that if you root for the team that no one else is rooting for then eventually they're going to send me a jagger, right? Yeah. Oh god yeah we are open to bribes . Matt, I think we have I think we did it. I think we did the monocobique pretty much. Yeah. I think we hit all the major points. We talked about all the important things. I complained about the gaslighting and the smallness of the track and I got to read a list of things that always makes me happy. I had Hamilton bias like quite a lot throughout the whole. We were so happy in our Hamilton bias. Yeah, and I think Kimmy bias as well that's starting to come in. So I mean it is he just got that thing. He got that look at it and he got that legability. It's just like hard to beat to mute my microphone for the majority of the story. We actually Ch,ristian, we actually said, please mute your mic for the entirety of the stream. So you did misunderstand that, but I think we've delivered a fairly good Monaco Grand Prix review. Yeah. Yeah. Me too. We'll be back in mid week. So midkwee it',s Barcelona in one week , so we'll do our preview like midweek and that'll be cool. Barcelona's a great track and I would love to try and sneak in there. So if you have any kind of passes for stuff, you know, I like hospitality. It'll be Friday, but me and Matt will look forward to Barcelona, which I think is one of the premier historic F one tracks in the calendar. Vamusala Playa which means I let's go to the dishwasher and make sure that it has the right settings. Perfect. Matt, it looks like you've been trying to say something for ages. Like are you saying something? Asking you yeah, I was just going to ask, are we doing the outros or are we done with the outros? Nope, this is the out ro . Like where do we follow you on social media outro? We're gonna miss it again. Did I miss it? Did I follow sleep? We did all of that. 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