The Impact of Harambe

Seeep. Good happen evening people. Welcome back to the show. It is a four point two million subscriber Q and A episode and, as is tradition, ask for questions from Twitter. and YouTube and Instagram and there were Let's get into it Delthing through twenty one. What's going on with all these group episodes in the studio Yeah, I guess I kind of launched this studio and at no point actually got to tell you that it was happening. It sort of unceremonious beginning. There was no ribbon cutting thing. I'm just having a lot of fun having multiple guests in the studio with me. I You know for a long time, modern wisdom has been Ver serious, meaningful conversations, me talking to world experts, you one thousand one hundred episodes like that. And I still love doing that Sometimes it can feel a little bit like homework when it's very serious all the time and These Hang style episodes, the one that I did with Hubberan, Mcuska and Sagura, for me was onene of the most fun conversations I've ever had. I thought that was awesome. I think that the episodes I do with George and Sean have been so much fun as well. The debate stuff is cool because it's not necessarily people on opposite sides Of a discussion, one of the problems of most debates, at least for me on the internet, is that it becomes a slaming match. Everyone's there as basically a verbal blood sport to see who can fuck who up the most. And you don't actually get to arrive at consensus at the end. What you get is a bunch of people who shouted and you don't actually know what the conclusion is or the takeaway because no one's going to cede ground. No one ever says Oh, actually that's an interesting insight. I never thought of that because they know that they're supposed to be in opposition. Whereas conversations that I'm trying to put together are people who have slightly differing perspectives on the same topic, and that means that maybe they can actually develop each other's worldviews as opposed to it just being this like Bay Bade. Remember Bay bllades where you like gripped it and ripped it and it span around and everybody got destroyed. In the end, everybody got destroyed. I don't want that I'm just having a lot of fun. I want to have a lot of fun on the show, especially this year. You know, it took six months. to build the studio and I love being here. and I'm not gonna to do that and not invite my friends around to hang out and have a good time and have a laugh Also, if I'm being honest, I think that the sort of grind slop. Eera of pushing people to alwaysways, always only ever really focus on personal development and self improvement at the expense of everything else. I'm personally feeling A little bit of fatigue with that And that's still amazing for me in Hormosi to sit down and talk and get people to lock in. But it's nice when there's like you have your starter, your main course and your dessert, and the dessert's a little bit of a treat, right? These are just treats. I'm giving you a small, it's a canopy, it's like a little dessert cannopy every so often and I'm just flicking little bits of chocolate sauce at you I'm having a lot of fun with them. I'm enjoying them. I think they rule. I think In the era of AI, people are already drowning in a lot of information and the number one use for LLMs and for chats are like coaching advice for people what they're going through Do we need to have even more more of that? or is it going to be nice to have a bit of a safe space where people can just relax and listen If I don't take notes of every single episode, You may not learn anything from the Human Segura Mcuska episode, rightike you genuinely may not learn anything from it but you'll have a good time. Honestly, I think that that's worth an awful lot. Anyway I'm loving them. I'm really enjoying them. I like sitting down and having the serious conversations, I'm just I'm playing around with new format. I appreciate you guys being patient. I understand as well, I'm probably going to lose. Some audience members, there's some people who just want to hear me and another person do the, you know dark furrowed brow serious thing I u there's going to be a some people are not going to like it, but I've always followed my instincts with the show. I've always really tried to just do what I wanted becausecause if I'm having fun and I'm enjoying it and it resonates with me, I have to assume that it will resonate with you too or I hope it does China. That's what I'm doing. That's my master plan. My master plan is to have fun and to try and do stuff that's different. I don't know Really An of the shows are many of the shows that are trying to put it together in this way and this feels like a bit of white space that I can move into which I want to because I enjoy it and also it's something that Maybe as Maybe can't get elsewhere. So that's my thinking. I hope you enjoy it. I'm always open to feedback. So just comment on stuff that you like, stuff that you don't like, people you want to see, people you don't want to. I am going to try and put Neilegrras Tyson and Mark Normand on a round table. I'm going to try and put Eric Weinstein with Rick Glassman on a round table together. I'm going to try and do Bert Kreisher with Brian Johnson Just see what happ. I'm gonna to pull a bunch of pins on grenades, throw them in the middle of that table that's right there. This is the same studio, right it's the same room at least by the way. And also, I'm sorry, the new studio thing, unceremonious launch I should have I should I should have done a vlog. We kind of tracked it and then I went away on tour and then I came back and did ten episodes in five days. It was all a bit It was chaotic and stuff, but I'll do a video. I'll do a video and I'll explain this vision in full. but that's what I'm trying to do. I really hope that you guys love it. I'm having a lot of fun doing these episodes. They get me excited and I can still lock in Do the wisdom core, you know, modern wisdom versus stuff St got that in the locker That'll still be coming. Then the debate things, I think are fun as well because it's not necessarily people disagreeing. I'm aware You might be mad that you didn't get the blood that you thought you would when you heard debate, Well, what's a debate if all of the people are agreeing. You go, well They don't fully agree and they get to build on each other's arguments as opposed to just tear them down. And that to me suit my nervous system but also feels like a more productive way to have a discussion with people to see Seriously what they can get out of it.way, that's that' what I'm doing that's my master plan. I hope you enjoy Caro de Silver. My ex contacts me to sleep with her but she feels guilty about it the next day Do I stop going to make an assumption, K Caro that you only feel guilty about her feeling guilty not that you feel guilty about doing it. It sounds to me like that's The issue. Maybe you don't even feel guilty about her feeling guilty. You just youre sort of you've noticed it, you're slightly concerned I and sending adults, she wants to do it You have no obligation not to do it I get the sense Probably better for your karma You know, the little conscience karmasct obviously playing on your mind Right? that's not a zero cost activity, the fact that you're thinking about it enough to submit this is a question You've already piped it for a good while when you were together. You've done enough break upp sex, it sounds I reckon Allow her to move on. Even if you don't feel guilty about doing it, you might startop feeling guilty about her feeling guilty and L a general rule of thumb is to treat every girl that you're with as if you were going to marry her treat her like the girl that you're going to marry, like how you want that girl to be treated by somebody else. And if you were to find out girl you get with next had been mistreated and her ex kept sleeping with her and all of this stuff, you'd probably feel a bit bad. It' It's like the golden rule. It's a golden rule of dating. others, as you would wish your next partner to be treated Something like that Ppe to enough, give it to us R Rachel Lord Gavin. What was your favorite part about your recent tour in Australia Australia was awesome. Thank you to everyone who came out and in New Zealand and in Bali. I got to see Adelaide for the first time and Perth for the first time, and that was great And, um I really loved Perth. It's super cool. I'd never flown to that side of Australia It's five hours away. The routing was awful for the people that didn't watch the vlog We went from one side of Australia to the other and back with shows on every day in the space of forty eight hours. It was stupid that we ruined the entire trip just to get to Pth It was worth it. That was awesome have to say Brisbane is one of the coolest cities on the planet Everyone's fit. Everyone's fit and hot and tanned. And there's the best gym in the world there, which is total fusion pllatinum out of this world In the architecture is nice and there's hanging gardens coming out the side of buildings and there's a waterfront and It's great. So Brisbane, awesome, perth, awesome. Anna I mean, it's the second biggest show I've ever done. We sold out the Darling Harbor Theater in sending, we H It was sick. It was really cld. I can't wa to go back Air deir Dag When do you know it's time to settle? Be single is fun? PS, see you in Dublin in October. I will see you in Dublin, presumably as you've rattled your way through some more of Island. By the way, you haven't got tickets for my UK Island tour, you can get those at Chris Williamson. live. Dublin's sold out, so you can't go to Dublin. but some tickets available for everywhere else, London and Edinburgh and a ton of other spaces And you can get them now, Chris Williamson.ot live When do you know it's time to settle When you feel like it kind of, I think trying to prescribe Forcing yourself to settle down will just result in you resenting the settling You're't to do that. if you try. you know, reverse engineer force your way into doing something that you don't feel like doing That's it. pretty guaranteed way to self destruct at some point. U there is a great line about dating, which is you can't negotiate desire. And I think the same thing is kind of true here, which is you can't even negotiate your own desire You can't convince somebody else to find you attractive if they don't, but you can't convince yourself to want to do something if you don't. Like how many times have you been in a relationship with somebody that on paper is all of the things that you want in a partner and for some reason this is when people say the spark's not there. It's just not quite right. I don't know what it is. I don't feel compelled or whatever by them You're trying to dictate to yourself, hey feele this way you don't And if you're saying, being single is fun I imagine it's very fun in Dublin Denying yourself the thing that you're enjoying in an attempt to try and do a thing that you think that you should. Now is there a limit to this Probably L if you've ran through half of Dublin, it might be time to give it a bit of a break. At least if it's not on your radar. If it's only on your radar because you feel obliged to, I don't think that it's something that you need to think about because going to result in failure Now that's why you do the self work. That's when you spend some time journaling and you think, well Maybe I'm scared intimy, Maybe I've got a concern about settling downbt. Mbe it feels constraining and constricting to me because That's how I felt as a child or I'm not happy in my h in my job Outside of this, I don't feel fulline I feelfully seen at work or whatever it might be. There's a lot of reasons about what might be going on there. Anyway You do it when you feel like it. Thomas Goodfellow, are you a comy met met? I often wonder if hyper successful people are Yes, I am. Game recognizes game as they say For the people that don't know, CT is a genetic polymorphism, Snip variant And it's The MetMet variant is the most extreme version of it because you've got two copies. I think it's the same as being dA. And this basically means that you clear cateaterolaines and adrenaline more slowly And you have a higher dopamine baseline if some sort of stressful Chaotic situation occurs. It takes longer for you to come back down to baseline. Um, I would make a horrible Navy seal. pretty good artist, for instance, whereas if things are predictable relatively routineized, quite peaceful. you can operate and lock in very, very well. You pay a lot of attention to detail. This is kind of one of the polymorphisms that's associated with the classic insecure over achiever overthinker archetype And yeah, I think hyper successful people You got to pay a lot of attention to stuff. You know, the retard Maxing aside, retard Maxing is somebody that could be the guy on the right being the guy in the left Like you have all of the capacity to overthink and you're choosing not to. L or else you're just incapable. It's the same thing as the Peterson line about Having the capacity for danger and not using it or having the capacity for aggression and not using it is different to being unable to be aggressive. thoseose two things aren't the same and the same things true here that even if it's often optimal to try and simplify stuff and not overc compplicate it going from a I could overc compplicate it and I choose not to. and you get to select the very few areas that you do complicate because they're the ones that have got the highest return versus I I can't complicate. I can't think that deeply. That being said, you don't need a CT Met Met variant to be a thoughtful person that pays attention to shit I would guess a lot of people are I certainly know a bunch of my friends have at least one copy of Comi. That being said, it is not I don't even know if it's five thousand one forty nine beneficial. It just is Like having that comee variant just is it requires you to adapt your lifestyle in a different way. That's why I don't like getting into beef on the internet. I'm just not built for it. I'm not built to have a I'm not built to be Benenschhiphero, right? or Piers Morgan or something. What did I say at the top of the show about the new style of debate?ike A my nervous system just I really feel like people shouting and screaming at each other while I'm sat in a room. I just want everyone to kind of build on it and sort of be friends and get along like that feels better to me not only because that's my disposition, but it's my predisposition as well. and trying to work around it, trying to fight against it I would lose. So yes, I am and I think some hyper successful people are too, but it's Absolutely not all sunshine and rainbows. In fact, it might be more ra maybe more rainbows and sunshine, if that's what it is Whatever, it might suck more than more than it's a beneficial advantage And I'm working through Chouch, Heay more, Chim more. What is the smallest hill you would die on What is the smallest hell I would die on Cold luggage is a sigh op meant to keep you poor and late is definitely one and The most important part of a bed is the pillow Those are the two Th thoseose are the two smallest hills that I'm I'm yet to find a trip where you need to take coold luggage unless you're taking something commercial Right? Like we had to fly. I got I got shit on the tour of vlog because I had hold luggage with me contained the merch All right It contained all the merch that we were putting up so that people could see what they were going to buy and then the actual stuff that they bought was shipped there Give me a break pill, bad bed, goodood night's sleep pillow good bed Average night' sleep, most important part of the bed's the pillow Two hills, I'll die on I don't care what you say That Sexton. I wonder if this is James Sexton did you get much backlash for your Louis Manosphere episode Yes, I did Yes, I did. I managed to unite The feminist and the manosphere in agreement that the worst part of Louis Thoreu's Manosphere documentary was him coming on. My podcast day. afterfter the documentary dropped E Most of the people that were involved in the documentary tweeting necessarily about the documentary, but we're doing big diatribes about my conversation with Lillis calling me out. It's been I've got fucking whiplash this young from trying to work out where I'm supposed to be positioned, whether I'm in the manosphere or a feminist, whether I'm a right wing bigot or a less left wing blue pilled cook, I can't work it out based on other people's opinions of me I did Tucker Carlson show in November ls this huge breakdown. this likeike massive essay by a prominent writer that said I was riddled with blue pilled thinking and infected with feminist lies That was interesting. And then January Me and Bartlet got in bother for talking about birth rate decline. And I was a misogynist A mananosphere, Red pill, right wing I was a Lux Maxer, which almost feels like a compliment Uh and then did the episode with Lou And I was a feminist again I'm actually getting ripped around, like my neck hurts from trying to hold on as I get jiggled about on this roller coaster. I got a lot of backlash because It looks like I'm supposed to adhere to one side which I don't. and you don't get any support from the side that only recently was calling you out. So I enjoyed that conversation I enjoyed that conversation with Louis. I don't agree with everything that he said. I don't agree with the way that he framed everything inside of the episode. I thought he missed some stuff out that would have been really important to have gotten around to I still had an interesting conversation with him. I had an interesting conversation with Bernie Sanders Bernie Sanders who said, I think it's a big problem when talking about birth rate decline, That's Bernie Sanders, right? That's Mr. L Mrter Left I I'm going to continue to have the conversations I want to have. I'm really trying my best to do them in a balanced way. I'm trying to put this across with people that I think in good faith, understand what they're talking about. I'm not going to agree with everything that they say and If I get pattern matched as being manosphere adjacent or as being an apologist for feminist thinking or something, So be it. like I I canan't spend my time trying to explain to people my position if they don't care. don't have the capacity to understand what I'm doing The people that listen to this show, I think have a really good understanding of what I'm trying to do and The shows for them. The show is for you guys. If you're this deep, whatever, fifteen minutes, twenty minutes deep into a solo Q and A episode, the show is for you And if somebody sees a clip of me where I say something and because of the way that I look or because of the accent I've got or because of whatever the fucking forearm tumors Um if they think that that's a It means that I've sided with one group or another, but fine. Like I'm not going to spend a waste my time exxplaining myself to people who don't understand what I'm doing Gotlin thirteen twenty, you and Alex O'Connor have been on a generational run lately Thank you very much. Alex so Fucking great Dude I've been friends with him for Seven years now And I've been a fan of him Maybe for even longer Just so great He's a lovely guy behind the scenes. I genuinely like him. Hey has worked incredibly hard. I mean, he's been doing YouTube since ely ten years? No It it wouldn't surprise me if it's been ten years. It's least been sort of nine or eight And um I think he's fantastic. I think he is wonderful voice at the moment. understands theology Rpect religion, respects believers. and isn't kind of really sterile and mean when talking about religion and belief and can hold the ground of He understands theology and religion and scripture often better than the people that he's sitting opposite, which is crazy as opposed to kind of just steaming in with, well, this is irrational and that couldn't happen. And here's some science sort of steps onto the field of play of people who are believers and then has a conversation with them inside of their domain. And it's just It does not surprise me at all that he's kind of the center of this conversation around religion. alsoso his pivot from atheism to agnostic, I think is is really great because it makes it sound less adversarial. againain I think people are getting frustrated and fatigued all of the fighting and cantankaras like we know that this is the way to do it and I worry you you will find if if I open up your Twitter on the twenty third of april twenty twenty six that you say Oh my go, dude, like can we not just have a fucking can we not just have a conversation that's relatively cordial where both people are trying to find some form of truth and agreement and understanding about somebody else's perspective. Like is that not is that not fun? Are we not here to have a fun time? Like that, Is that not this nice blend of I'm going to learn a bit and I'm not going to walk away feeling like I've just been injected with a ton of adrenaline. Is that not okay? I don't know. Alex is great. Thank you, generational run. I'm trying to crank it in my own way Maybe he'll be back on the show. Maybe he'll do one of those round table debate things. That would be fun. So leave it with me Tla Ironside. I remember being subscribed when you had a hundred followers and would respond to comments. You let fame Get way to your head, you don't even have good guests anymore, just self help gurus, which gets boring. After I've had The shhamanon It is no surprise self help gurus has been alleged at me. Kayla, I'm sorry that I haven't been replying responding to your comments Um I've been here since a hundred followers and I'm still landing on your news feeed That feels pretty sticky I apologize that you think that the show's dropped off I let fame get way to my head I'm going to push back against that one. British people and The brand of British personers that I am basically has anti ego. and I don't think it's fair to allege that I've let fame get way to my head because I'm not responding to your comments There used to be a hundred followers and I would respond a lot. There's four point two million now. I'm still responding a lot. There's just more people for the responses to go around. okay? really I'm really trying. I don't even have good guests anymore I apologize, I would love to hear who you would like me to bring on the show. I'm always open to suggestions from you or from anybody else. and I've listened, and I've brought on lots of suggestions that have come. Many of the suggestions are people suggesting themselves and other suggestions don't work not right There's a mixed bag of tastefulness inside of every audience. Mine is more tasteful than most, thank you I'm sorry, Kayla, but I'm glad that you've been here for the last state in a bit years hope you keep listen This episode is brought to you by Whoop. According to my Whoop, I've tracked nearly two thousand days of my life And the thing that still gets me is that I could have predicted almost every bad day before it happens. That's because whoop gives you a complete picture of your health Every single day, your sleep, your workouts, your recovery, your breathing, your heart rate, even your steps. and over time you get to see what's working and what isn't. And the whoop five point zero is the best version yet. It's seven percent smaller. You get more than two weeks of battery life from a single charge.'s got health span tracking to see how your daily habits affect your pace of aging. It's even got hormonal insights the women that are listening. I'm a huge fan. This thing rules. 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It's the supermassive black hole in the center of the Golden retetriever verse of Austin, Tex And I think that this is Maybe a S up by Big Golden to get me by Golden And I'm being set, you know, the Uh The Truman show and the guy comes over the radio. he's like, send in another three golden retrivers to sniff his leg as he walksed past it's every single fucking day that I go. So I'm happy to talk about Golden Retrivers. Wally meets Wld on Instagram is Perhaps my favorite Instagram account, It's this overly emotional Glden retriever who permanently looks like he's going through a depressive episode. and I love him. I love him so much. Like if I sat down, I would happily do a round table episode with three Golden retetrievers. Um Give me time, Give me time. I really w tona have one. feel bad because my mum and dad always had dogs when I was growing up and They treated them so well in terms of they always got walks. they were always looked after. weren't haamppered, but they were just They were never left alone for too long U They got regular exercise. They were goen border colleagues I would feel so bad knowing the standard of care that a dog can get and that a dog did get from My mum and dad I would feel bad to have one and not not do that for it. So I'm aware this is like It's the I'm not ready to have a baby equivalent for fucking golden retrivers I really want one and I'm trying to not be selfish about getting one just because I want it to then not give it the standard of care that I think it deserves. So I will soon, so soon. If anyone can recommend a golden retriever, Breeder or something that probably will push me little closer. nice fluffy show golden, notot a working golden, please. loveve working Gldens, but I want a big I want a big Fluffy idiot. please Big fluffy idiot. Thank you Amberavina. More open tabs, group pods, please and thank you Yes Yes, but caveat I don't know what the name is I don't know the name is of all of these. I've been fighting so hard behind the scenes to work out what to call these things. We were gonna call the big names Episodes like Human Mcuskca Sgura are uncommon conversations it is, it's like' a strange group of people It's so long When you try and put that on YouTube or Spotify, it's huge. It takes up loads of space. So then we were going to call it smmoke brereak Right? It's casual. We're going to call it hot mic and someone's got hot mic and they've got George Bush money, so I don't to go up against them Uh Then it was going to be smmoke brereak. It still might be. You know, the CEO goes out for a smoke break and the Janit is there kind of playing off that plus it's casual and relaxed. Th then it was going to be Good vibes or good dudes and it would be funny if we probably go along because she would still be a good dude And then the one with George and Sean and the guys was maybe going to be good dudes or rabbit hole because we keep going down rabbit holes. But then there's a New York Times the limited series from ages ago called Rabbit Hole. And then it wass going to be open tabs because it's all of the things that are in our minds and all of the different tabs that we've got open on Chrome the shit that we've seen on the internet I don't know what to call it and it's giving me It's giving me low key anxiety. because I keep releasing episodes and I can't decide. can't decide what it is and we keep on having the same Discussions, and we were also going call it blunt rotation big episode was going to be called Blunt Rotation. I don't know what to call it. Maybe I should just do. if I do a poll, people are going to vote on the one that they think sounds cool, but not the one that they would click on And then every time that we pick something, we have to go through, we have to check with an IP lawyer because when you get to a certain size The becausecause people think that you have money that they can come after you for for it's called passing off in the UK. I don't know what the equivalent is in the US infringement, basically. And the US is a first to use, not a first to file as well in trademark law, which means You get a degree of protection by simply using it first, even if you haven't registered it The fucking nightmare Whatever it's called You will be getting more of those group pods. I enjoy them. I think they're fun Just need a name. o. P Noobal three. Can you get Elon Musk on the pod I got put in a signal group chat with him last week. I've been orbiting for a while, which I guess is an appropriate term for him. both sexually and physically. and I I had slowly sort of crept toward him. he'd watched a bunch of the pods. posted the David Friedberg app that we did on X, which is very kind and then I got put in a group chat after he posted that one. And I said, Joon to come on the pod And he said, maybe after the SpaceX IPO So waiting for maybe the most valuable company ever in history to go public And then once that's happened, we'll do something. I've got an idea for how I want to put that together, I want to do something incredibly special, simimilar to the McConaughe kind of the B moment. And regardless of what you think about Ylon, right? You don't even need to like him. You don't need to agree with him. You can't deny that he's one of the most influential people on the planet I, mayaybe one of the most influential people he may end up being The most influential person in history. by the time that he dies And I think It's's it's a good idea to have a conversation with someone like that. So Gonna to try I'm going to do something special K P T My. Chris, I've found the tall girl problem is actually a compounding issue. If a woman has a high income plus high EQ from therapy, plus The wisdom of intense life experiences she becomes taller in ways she can't unlearn How do we address this asymmetric growth? Is it a problem of how we incentivise men toward internal work? orr is it that we lack therapy or growth models specifically tailored to men? PS? C curious if other women here feel their height. is coming at least equally if not more from their personal growth than their paycheck. This is why I love the Monn Wism audience. that is a fucking awesome question That is a really, really interesting question from someone who's thought about it deeply, and that's why I love you guys The question here tall gol problem, socioeconomic success from women. has made it difficult or more difficult for them to find a partner who is as socioeconomically successful as they are or more. Women typically want to date a man who's as educated as they are or more and as financially successful as they are, I more There is a third element here that's being proposed by KP, which is the emotional development if you've done a lot of self work, here is another Oh deellta to another distance from you to the people that you're trying to date I get the sense that this is actually one that could maybe be more destructive to relationships, especially over the long term. So on the front end, when you meet someone, you might be more concerned with their education level and their current earning As you get into a relationship, that may, I think, become less and less relevant On the other side, I think someone's emotional intelligence, up frront, you're not being that emotional, right? when you first meet somebody. You maybe get some senses here and there But as you get deeper into the relationship If you've done a lot of self work, if you've done a lot of therapy, if you've thought deep about your emotions, you're trying to connect to your feelings, you're understanding your patterns, you're really trying to you're trying to go that. You're trying to hold your emotions. you're trying to develop yourself If you and your partner have a big delta I think that is going to create more friction and make you feel more alone in the relationship. than them not having a master's when you've got a masters And they've got an undergrad degree or something like that U So I think This is almost certainly a contributing element I don't know whether the asymmetric growth is that women are doing more emotional work. It obviously seems like you are unsurprising, Mn Wisdom lessener, obviously I don't know whether that is on average true for women to be more emotionally in tune and developed than men are in the same way as higher levels of degree, accomplishment and high levels of financial success, trh. byy the way, the stat of women out earing men is now They out men up to the age of thirty two is twenty nine previously and I think it's maybe thirty two, thirty three This is a big window for women to try and date in Um So I don't know if it's asymmetric growth on average or just asymmetric growth for you and all of the other women that listen to modern wisdom, obviously. Also if they've been absorbing the British accent, I imagine that's probably a competitive disadvantage too within the market. It you just it's very difficult to compete with the British accent. Hold onto the American accent at least if you' from America. How do we address this asymmetric growth? Is it a problem of how we incentivize men toward internal work Or is it that we lack therapy or growth models specifically tailored to men I certainly think both of those things because the The two things are interlinked. men will be more likely to do a modality of emotional development that they think and that they can see will give them outcomes that they want if you have therapy and growth models specifically tailored to men, they're more likely to observe the direct outcome, beneficial outcome that they want. pursue it, I think. Rather than trying to sort of whip men into doing it or guilt men into doing it or shame them into doing it, it's much better to just make it so attractive and so obviously beneficial to them that they want to do it That to me seems to be like just incentives, incentives align the fucking incentives. And if you align the incentives so that a guy goes, hey, I can actually see how this would benefit me in ways that I care about I'm going to go and do it. That's the easiest way. So Uh a model of getting more guys into therapy, bringing across some of the Tools, I guess from coaching and men's work into therapy. I've worked with Maybe five or six therapists, most of them for a short period and two of them for a long period I found myself getting frustrated, I was about to say as a man, like the fucking like speaking as a white man from England I found myself getting frustrated when only felt like there was reflection and no, okay, and this is what we're going to do about it. or this is a This is an exercise that you can do in the real world, which is going to expose you to this pattern O this is a conversation that might be beneficial for you to have or I want you to note down when you feel this thing come up That to me felt like a little bit like homework, but it felt like I was making progress, like there was a plan in place and that sort of linear trajectory Right? That sort of upward trajectory is, I think really important to men Yes, this will help to close the delta What I really just need to do is start a fucking dating organization of modern Wisdom listeners Like that would pre select for so many of the problems people have. this is what's mad about the live shows, Chris Williamson. live if you're in the UK in Dublin and Northern Ireland I know that you sometimes touchy about being a part of the UK At The live shows, the number of couples that come together and say We work in different companies, we have different careers, we travel a good bit each day, but we listen to the show. And then when we come back together on a nighttime, we talk about what's happened in the show. That is obviously because this like wisdom coool stuff is a really It's resonating with people like eating a type of nutrient that you haven't had for a long time. L it's spirulina for your soul. when I get it right. When I get it wrong, it's sometimes slightly less speruline for youroul When I get it right gives people the opportunity to really understand themselves and then deepen their relationship together. So pre selecting for just a bunch of people who are all involved and interested in the same stuff, I should just try and find a way, But if I do that, possibility of there being so I did think about doing this. I was like, o well, why don't I do a mixer after the live event. It's going to be hard because like London Apollo showow in London in October is It's a three and a fivealf thousand capacity venue, and we sold it out last time So First off, where the fuck am I gonna put Let's say twentyy percent of the people from there go. That's a lot of people. L seven hundred people is a lot of people what if this I just had this vision in the back of my mind that two people get drunk and go home and have a fumble. and then like right wing misogynist blue pilled cook feminist podcaster embroiled in drunken. I'm like, I wasn't even there I was just trying to get I was just trying to fucking fix the birth rate and get make people help people fall in love and find someone that they're l al with. So That's that's what I'm trying to think I'ming to think about. Maybe just come come to the live shows and just hang around in the lobby And have a little have a little flirt, have a little chat, you know? Maybe that'll fix it. But I feel you If you're very emotionally developed, it's going be hard to resonate with people. And yeah, you become taller in ways you can't unlearn, right? You can stop going to work If you want to settle down, start of family, you can pivot your career It's very difficult to forget the inner work that you've done, the emotional development and it's going to make you feel quite alone. The more develop that you get as a human, the it's like It's kind of like having a really refined palette You become a foodie and you can understand the difference between this particular type of Bolognee's source and another one. And it means as your palette is more refined, there are fewer and fewer places you can go to weeat because you're not going to be able to enjoy things in quite the same way. You may be going see through The shallowness of certain types of foods in ways that someone who doesn't have such a developed pallate might not, they might not struggle with it. and I feel for you but also I think that the development is worth it. 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Right now, you can sign up for a one dollar per month trial period by going to the link in the description below or heading to shhopify. com slash modern wisdom, all lowercase. That's shopify d. comot Sash mot wis Chitty cat fog. Why do you and literally all of your guests endlessly pander to feminist bullshit and then pretend you somehow aren't part of basically all the problems you talk about on your show A I How many How many manisphere accusations in headlines do I need I actually should just have you write my PR shitty cat fos Brilliant name, by the I should have you write my PR He is not a part of the manosphere. He doesn't care about men. he's not a male supremacist. He endlessly panders to feminist bullshit along with all of his guests and then pretends that he somehow isn't basically part of all of the problems he talks about on his show. That is the best PR that I could come up with. but as I said, I've got I have neckache and backache from being ripped around by people on the internet, not being able to work out whether I'm their enemy or not on both sides. I'm being ideologically spit roasted by both sides of the internet Both the manosphere hate me and the feminists hate me, and I think that most people sit in the middle I think that most people understand that these conversations pretty important and that most of the stuff that goes on on the internet is just Rge bait, people looking for clicks I'm really trying to not do that. I apologize It feels like I'm endlessly pandering to feminist bullshit. I would love for you to sit down with some of the girlies from TikTok and work out who thinks they're right. What you can have a conversation between yourselves And then when you work out who you think is right C and have a chat with me. but it does feel a little bit like being accused by opposite sides of the same spectrum about being the opposing thing each side thinks I'm not. a little confusing. but thank you. I appreciate it. it's always nice to meet a fan Always nice to meet a fan Joe A Gaffne. Hello Christopher, will we get any other flavourors for the Newtonic fous pouches ak of the devil So these Newtonic focus pouches the Zin alternative we called them Its o you to develop. It was nearly eighteen months to get right and dial the flavors in and they rule and the fresh mint one ' fantastic Yes, there's new flavors coming. I Commissioned uffee a Citrus spepearint, a peppermint, and a some sort of fruit, like a mixed fruit thing. And I think I just I have this vision so you can see it's this sort of cylinder thing. I have this vision creating like one, two, three, four, five, a variety pack like that. and I just think it would be so cool Um Yes, there'll be new flavors. These sold out in forty hours. in the UK. I think they're sold out everywhere now. They are going to be in GNC and Vitamin shop next to the counter, which is pretty cool because alth. stores are pretty worried about putting nicotine in, but having something that's a pouch delivery mechanism that doesn't have nicotine in and is good for you and makes your brain work better and is a supplement over time Hh That seems pretty cool. So I'm I'm very bullish on these. Everyone that we've spoken to about them, all the retailers are super excited. So I'm working hard. We need to get the fucking freshmen back in stock first, R it Leave it with me and u See M exc Arnaldo Gonk As a young guy, how are you supposed to gain the world's respect? Do you just have to wait yeah. I I'm sighing at your question. I'm saying that the recollection of being in that position. When I first started running My Eents business Voodoo with Darren. M business partner. We were eighteen. And then we started really sitting down with leger company owners halfway through first year and then properly into second year. So we were eighteen, nineteen, nineteen, twenty, twenty one like really aggressively sitting down. and these leisure company owners are kind of Grizzled old fifties, sixties Club owners or operators of some kind or another I um, I felt pounded to I felt pounded when I sat down in these these meetings because I knew that I had something to offer this this company and and It felt like I was getting a pat on the head. It's very patronizing to me. and I really didn't enjoy it. And I understand, I think what you're talking about, which is that the world doesn't respect you simply because of your age and they can kind of disregard your competence, which is what you're operating on, right? Eespecially you're listen to show like this, you're thinking about yourself, you're trying to improve yourself and then All of that kind of just gets forgotten about because You nineteen Or you're twenty two or something The harsh truth is Kind of? Yeah, you do kind of just have to wait. I'm sorry. it's a very unsatisfactory answer. You can try and speedrun it. I'll give you one of the hacks that I found when I sat down. to have conversations with the Ledgure company guys. It would typically be me that led the pitch and then Darren that actually did the one did the work. So I got wheeled out as kind of like the queen. Like I would be the honorary citizen that kind of did the cell and then Darren actually like did the grinding when it came to the the numbers. One of the things I did was try to protect myself and the person that I was working because I didn't want to resent them. I didn't want to resent this larger company owner. So partway through, sort of hey guys, look, before we get started, I just wanted to say, I know that we're a young company. I think that our results speak for ourselves We don't need I don't want you to discount what we can do simply because we're young I have a lot of respect for you and what you've achieved in the industry You can look at our track record and it's very stellar I'm going to treat you with the level of respect that I think you want to and I expect that back. Like going in and saying something to the somethingomet similar to that, at least in my experience, pull out the elephant in the room. I know I'm young, but I'm great at what I do. I'm gonna respect you I expect you to respect me back. It's like, huh This kids, that was like a kind of risky thing to say I like that. Like If someone came and said that to me,'d be like I like that. They's standing on principle. he knows his worth. He understands that he's young. But he also is prepared to call it out so that there's no unspoken suckery going on in the background That helps. alsoso just being really competent. There's a book by Cal Newport called So Good They can't Iignore you Be so good that they can't ignore you. Be so good that they can't disrespect you is a solution, but dude, honestly until you're kind of The first change, I think is probably about twenty twenty four, twenty five, and then the next one is thirty For guys nineteen, you are going to really be fighting against the tes in twenty six, twenty seven, twenty eight, like you're still doing it. Once you get past thirty, I think it's kind of all the same So aging in some ways is good because it means that you've got way more respect Um I feel for you, keep on grinding And yeah, call it out. If you feel it, it's like, hey, guys, I'm noticing I'm feeling a little bit of tension in the room. I know I'm young Look at what I can do I'm I'm really showing up here to in a professional manner to try and prove to you exactly what I can do I expect the same from you. Maybe at least for me, I found that that was effective, so. Tobic Why so many ad reads in every episode D I I get it I understand I understand. if you're locked in on a conversation I come in and go in other the news. This episode is brought to you. I understand that it might be an inconvenience for a minute Dude, I just put Three of the biggest podcasters in the world in the same room for three hours U there's four minutes of ads. out of one hundred and eighty. If that is that is that unacceptable? Is that really too high of a price to pay to receive three episodes a week completely free I I'm really trying here. I'm trying to give this criticism as much of a steel man as possible. I understand that it's probably it's probably annoying. You're locked in, you don't want to hear about whatever it is that I'm talking about, right But dude The lights need to be kept on Like when for instance episode one thousand Mconaughe built, rebuilt the house from interstellar Unreal Engine five and then bucked out this huge video wall and then built practical sets and got an air stream and reversed the fucking thing in there And then had to get Mconaahghan and then had to edit and all the rest of it We lost I lost so much money On that one production, it's insane I didn't make it back on that one or on that one in the next one or in that one in the next one and the one after. I don't know how long it took me to make that money back I can't describe to you the level of entitlement that it feels like. For someone to say it's not worth four minutes of ads that are free and skippable for me to be able to enjoy that content. like it feels it feels unfair. Paris social relationships feel sometimes on the internet a lot more entitled than my real social relationships. None of my friends have ever said, dude, if I can I love you, man, but I need you to those ad reads they, you know, they're really getting to me. No one's ever said that. trying I try to make them interesting. I really do. We did new scripts, like I'm doing comedy bits, we writing like little jokes and stuff. I'm really, really trying to make them as engaging as possible. I only work with partners that I care about and whose products I use. I'm really, really going for it I'm sorry I'm sorry. if it's a if it's genuinely a big deal, I am sorry What like when you want This is not easy. studio was so fucking expensive And Im trying. I'm trying. I think I'm adding value. I think I'm trying to do different things and not Just mail it in. I sorry there's four minutes of ads per episode, but it's not going to change. 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K of again, he was unceremoniously in the same way I launched this studio without any fanfare. He just kills off people's favorite characters like that and doesn't complain about it, doesn't apologize about it I did have a call with Peerce at the start of this year and that was pretty revealing because I said How are you getting on And he said I'm having I'm having an existential crisis Because whoever I kill I can't bring back He can't recck on this series R You can't o, actually she was wearing reds flesh on her face and it was in an ante chamber that kept her alive secretly. They They took this special venom that dropped her heart rate to below perceptible level like you can't, you can't bring them back that I think the most brutally unromantic way to round out the series would be for Darrow to win, but for him to lose his wife again. That's what I think would be like Oh so unsatisfying and so It would just be a legendary way to do. and that's a high risk strategy because it is by definition, it's very unsatisfying. Um Darrow dying feels a bit cliche Seververal dying. is Rough But just not it's not got the gut punch of a mother dying and Darrow losing his wife again That's my money my money's on Mustang really do not NVPS' job or any I mean, look at, um Patrick Ruffffers, right with the name of the wind S book He's been it's been what ten years, twelve years or something since the second one came out in the trilogy. And it's a battle between him and George R R. Martin for who will write their next book last I feel for fiction writers who've got to try and bring a story into land. Eactly this is going to get canonized, it's going to be turned into a movie.re like, o fuck. That's why things going happen Oh Hs all. Would the geopolitical climate be different if Harambee was still alive? Dude Yes Yes, brring back Harambbe, man. Ben Lamb that's bringing back The Wooy mammoth and the saber toooth tiger and the Ddo bird at Colosus Colossal bioengineering, genetics thing. The first animal that should be brought back is not the Willy mammoth, it's Harambee I genuinely feel like He was the hero that we needed. not the one that we wanted. The Middle East is one hundred percent fixed with Harambei. I think Russia is a little bit less likely to be fixed I don't think that Russians would have listen to Harambeay in the same way that the Middle Eterns would have done But still as an ammbassador to the UN as a consumate professional Chin' the voice of a generation, I think Harambei is I miss him Sa winter. What are the tops and sides numbers for the buzz? So I'm growing this back. fucking I hear I'm going to put this as a timeime capsule, I'm cementing this When My hair is another Inch long comments of What the fuck is happening with that perm come in? This is My hair after not being cut foam. twowo, three months on the top and the back It's not a perm Okay It's not this is what my hair does when it grows That's my first thing. When I have got the buzz, it is two, two and a half Two on the sides, two and a half on the top moderate fade here on like on the sides on the upsides That's it, it's simple. Now the problem with two two and a half is that you need to go back to keep it neat, you need to go back probablyably every two and a half weeks, at least at the pace that my hair grows. Three weeks starting to look messy, three and a half weeks. you're like fucking hell. and then by four for me. my head doesn't get longer you might have Curly had too, Jake My head gets bigger It's it's like an expanding planet or something. My head doesn't get longer, it gets bigger. and That means that leaving it too long It doesn't make it look old Touse silly and he's so cool and sexy It looks like I don't care about myself. T two and a half, I would go one and a half two if you want a bit more longevity in it, and that'll probably get you to three weeks Yeah That's what it James J nineteen, are we going to get an in depth tour of the new studio? I know I know, I should do it. I should just film something. I have this thing where I want it to be perfect. want The studio to be perfect and the tree that's behind me might not be able to tell it's a tree, but we got this custom tree from Singapore custom designed and it had these shelves on. it was the perfect size to fit in the arch behind me in the studio. that hadn't arrived and there was just a normal set of shelves and then we got that in and then we made some other changes and now we've got more light tubes coming in so a couple more manipulation is going to happen. I'm like I just wanted to do it once it was perfect. and then I wanted to get I wanted to record it and explain everything and go, you know, the whole studio is so high tech and we've got loads of cool shit that we've done and I just didn't get r to it. And also I've been trying to rip the show too, like bringing on these episodes, these multi guest episodes really hard to do Like thinking about playing calendar Tetris with one in demand person Try and multiply that twoo more. It's so hard and mine. It's so hard But yes In depth studio tour will come at some point once we get the final final little touches in h and it'll be done I' sorry Iven' Sweet Ch Sweet chungus Do you ever worry that within the self help space, you've already covered the Ay twenty of what really matters and you now risk drifting into productive procrastination, searching for some hidden insight that doesn't actually exist? And the more you try to improve or keep learning, the more it just circles back to your mantra. J just do the thing I this is I think this is touching on What I was saying at the very start. which is There is a degree of grind slop exhaustion On the internet at the moment. And G back to the first four hundred episodes I did on the show David Allen who created the most legendary productivity process of all time, GTD, right? gettinget things done. Peter C. Brown, the guy that wrote the book Make It Stick, talking about the ebbing House forgetting curve and spaced repetition and flashcards for memory. So much off the low hanging fruit the important stuff was recorded on this podcast before anybody listened anyone listen? I think Three hundred and fifty episodes in We had hundred K subs four hundred and fifty, we had two fifty And now it's anotherother what? seven hundred episodes So we are thirty percent of the wayight to where we are now and we had done less than ten percent of the subs that we were ever going to do overall. It's like What I'm trying to do, I'm trying to make this as fun as possible. I'm trying to make it engaging. I'm not trying to repeat myself. I don't want to have the same guest on or the same topic talked about. like how many times Do we need to do an episode about optimal coold dark quiet approach for your bedroom How many times do we need to talk about Don't do caffeine after six PM Right. It's just I'm conscious of this and I'm purposefully trying to find people who are new and interesting. Dude, we did two hours on the life of Julius Caesar Nothing to take away from that. L no, you don't need no notes. There wasn't a morning routine that you could have taken away from Julius Caesar Just back and enjoy interesting learning, but in entertainment Just chill Enjoy that and that's the vibe that I'm feeling at the moment. I'm still trying to make progress and still big on the The emotions thing, the tapping in the understanding yourself stuff. but yeah, productive procrastination is real. that there is an answer out there. Something new is what's most important as opposed to just drilling the basics. That being said, Given that so much of the stuff that I said on the pod that was really, really important and in forformative to me was basically before anybody listened Maybe I do need to actually run some of that stuff back. It's going to be really hard to bring David Allen back on again eight years after I had him for the first time and just do the same episode. But given no one was listening back then and lots of people listen now I don't know mayaybe that is something that I need to do to revisit it All I'm trying to do is follow my instincts with the show and my instincts at the moment are telling me Have fun. Hang with the guys Talk about stuff that's interesting. Don't fall into Politics, slop, just reaction content, adversarial, like online argument bullshit Don't Try to find something that's novel simply for the sake of it being novel so that there is a degree of oh, this is new, the strategy that you don't understand, unless it genuinely warrants that Um And maybe we need to redrall the basics Maybe I need to do that I mean,' chronically unsexy. to do it, doing incredibly unattractive and does risk you being accused of we've heard this before. It's like, well, if you've heard it before, why aren't you implementing it? If you've heard everything about sleep, why do you sleep still suck If you already know the eighty twenty, if I've covered the eighty twenty, I've covered the one hundred zero Why did you sleep still suck Wh it's because you're not doing it? and maybe you need to be reminded of a bit more. Well maybe I need to do recap episodes. I don't know. I understand what you mean and I'm ively trying to avoid adding unnecessarily to grind slop and creating this sense of people I don't feel enough, the only way that I can be enough is if I'm permanently pushing myself nose to the grindstone as hard as possible and optimizing areas of my life that don't matter that much. trying to contribute, trying to give people a varied diet when it comes to this. If I want to go back over old stuff, I will do. And if I want to try and have somebody on to discuss something because I've kind of forgotten, my sleep started to suck a little bit and I'm like, okay Fuck it Matt Walker, spin you back up. Let's do the greatest hits Maybe I'll do that too. but I'm conscious of what you're saying and it's an accurate insight. I'm I'm with you I'm with you Jared You ever considered that you might have a drinking problem I don't consider a lot, Chris. Well, you drank an entire case of athletic Buroncoo last night but they're non alcoholic That's not a problem. Sorry, man. I just kept chugging waiting for the regret to creep in. never happened See, most people, like Jared, They don't want to change what they drink. They just don't want the next day to be a complete write off. And that is why I'm such a huge fan of Athletic brewing Coke. They make the best NA brews on the planet You can find Athletic Brewing Co's best selling lineup at grocery or liquor stores near you or best option. get a full variety pack of four flavors shipped direct to your door. Right now, get fifteen percent off your first online order by going to the link in the description below or heading to athleticbrewing d. com slash modern wisdom using the code mododern wisdom. a check out.'sthleticrewing dot com slash modern wisom A modern wisd A check out. Nebia Terms and conditions apply Athletic Brewing Company, fit for all times. Bottoms up J Klemo. Dude, love your work. Thank you. I've been a listener since twenty twenty. I have one pretty important question that you are well qualified to answer. Would bringing back carnage traffic light parties solve the declining birth rate I mean It's got a shot It's got a shot because we've tried We tried everything Hungry Taxes for mothers, I could be tax breaks for mothers That didn't work I think it's got a shop sh look for the people that don't Carnage was a t shirt bar ro that I ran for a long time. It was the first franchise that I owned in the UK when I was running nightclubs. and you wear a sticker. green sticker on you means Good to go. Orange sticker means thinking about it not sure. and a red sticker means I'm taken Right. So like single considering it taken And it just meant that you didn't ever go up to somebody didn't want to have someone go up to them. Like you could even put a red one on you and I just don I don' want to hook up tonight or whatever It's going to require an awful lot of people to do Cnage traffic light party. I mean, we did lots. those Bark rolls were huge like thousands and thousands of people per night To make a dent in the birth rate, we might need to scale it up. I'm prepared to go back if that fixes the birthright, I'm prepared to go back into the world of Nightlife Promo. That being said, we wouldd be cancellled within days within days if the sort of shit that used to happen on Cnage was to happen again. now with camera phones it would not last two seconds. but it's a good idea Araack. Zafy one. Best books that one must read. Dude I have Two reading lists of a hundred books and it pops up two minutes into every single episode on YouTube in the top corner, and it's in the show notes of every episode. and I talk about it on my story and it's my only Linkoln bio on Instagram. Please go and download the list of a hundred books that you should read before you die and a hundred more books that you should read before you die Chriswillx. com slash books and Chriswillx. com slash more books There's five at the top of each that are like, oh, those are the must reads. You have to read these. and then there's ninety five more that are cool. and some of them are fiction and some of them nonfiction, real life stories. and I've written descriptions about why I like them and links to go and buy them and it's available online. And I can't believe that you've managed to Salom through my content and miss it That's a me problem Obviously you need to work harder at shoving this down your throats. So there you go, Chris Williamson or Chris WillX. com slash books M Halla seventy eight. I would love to hear your thoughts on alcohol. I see in your latest video that alcohol is a part of your life. In the past, you've been a strong advocate of the benefits of not drinking That's true. Yes. I I went sober for a good while. I did a thousand days sober. I did a bunch of six month sobas starting about a decade ago. It doesn't sound very revolutionary now. Back in the day when I did that as a nightclub promoter in his twenties, That was That was fucking unheard of right? especially being in Newcastle, which is kind of the capital of drinking in the UK and It was really beneficial and I made a lot of progress and then I did a video about what I learned from a thousand days not drinking, and it was super helpful That being said Anybody who says that alcohol can't make a night out better, hasasn't had a good enough night out. Like it absolutely can improve your experience The problem I had was when it felt like I was obliged to do it like I wouldn't I couldn't have a good night. if I didn't do it and I didn't like that. I didn't like being at the mercy of some. That's the same reason I did a thousand days, sorry, I did five hundred days without caffeine because didn't like the idea that I didn't have control over energy levels without needing to artificially inseminate it with something else And I was on tour right around Austalia New Zealand and Bali I'm going to have a beer. I'm going to have two beers. after I fin I'm going to have a cororona, I'm going to celerate with the guys. I was in Nashville for the fourth of July two years ago, like hundred thousand people on Broadway. the whole streets closed down. There's a drone show and fireworks and Kestroal band playing I'm going to have a beer You can make a night out battle like that. The problem is when you don't have control over it. And it wasn't even I didn't have control. I did have control. I just knew that it was limiting the progress that I was making because I was hanging out of my ass once every two weeks. and that would mean that my diet got reset and I wasn't training for, you know, three days. slowly get back up, fourourth day training session kind of sucks and then maybe I'll do some meditationational on journal and then I'm back up to speed and just as I'm back up to speed I reset to the baseline. So A lot of people, the progress that you're looking for is at the bottom of the glass that you're drinking. Um, It's not a part of my life. I think I drank Ten times, twenty times. last year, I have drank twenty times so far this year I'm halfway through the year And it's twoub be is I'm still a strong advocate of the benefits of not drinking but I'm not I can absoluteist on it either Paul Bishop five nine nine nine. What happened to the merch Try hand. Look at this M We've got a lot of new designs. interestnterestingly Sleep tooken is a band. They wear masks, pseudonymous, or anonymous, people don' supposedly don't know who they are, quite hard to work out who it is The designer the merch, which is awesome significantly easier to work out who it is. So anyway, the merchy is coming soon. We've got the final samples coming back I'm very obsessed about everything Cpty Met Mat variant. But I'm particularly obsessive about the much because mailing it in and doing shitty much to me a real touch point between what I've built with modern wisdom, which is taken over eight years under a thousand episodes. And you guys. And if you get a piece of merch that p after a few washes or that's got shitprint quality or that isn't a cool design or is a bad fit That is Tarnishes your. relationship with me and your interpretation of the brand so much, I just I It really makes me feel quite ill to think about that. So I spent a long time working on the designs. We're actually changing the blanks from the first release, which were great and everybody loved. but we were using Comfort Colors CC seventeen seventeen And now we're moving to AS color stencil minus tw s. And the reason for that is I wanted a slightly deeper black. like this is sort of brushed. U which always gives it a bit of a weathered feel, which is nice and it's a tiny bit oversized, which I also like. but I actually wanted something that's just a little bit more fitted, so it's a bit more flattering on the arms and is a deeper black because I think it's gonna let the designs pop a bit more. So this is actually on the comfort colors. And then're gonna we've got the final samples coming back. AS colors The stancil minus two is important because AS color for me fits too long. for most people, I think it fits too long. so we've limited the colors and L so much shit that'm so many hoops I'm jumping through. rounds and rounds and rounds of amends. but we've got the next two drops done. So once we've got this locked in We won't need to wait. The first one was in November October and November And then this one is going to be in B in June or something It's frustrating. I wanted to merge out sooner, but the only reason that we're waiting is because I want it to be perfect and I hope that that comes across and I'm trying hard and I'm working hard Bob Zilla two thousand six. Would you ever consider doing more episodes related to astronomy and physics? I really enjoyed the episode you did with Professor David Kipping and I would love to see him come onto the show again as well as other guests within that area of study loveove the show and congrats on four point two million dollars Thank you very much I love astronomy and physics. I dumped some nerd astronomy knowledge on George on one of our most recent episodes. No idea if it's true, but I think I was right with it Um I'm trying to do this Neil de Gras round table, which It makes me so excited. prospect of Neil DeGras Tyson Mark Normand in the same room. is It's wonderful I spoke to David a couple of weeks ago. I texted him after the Artemis thing because I knew who was involved in something behind the scenes and congratulated him. That was cool I want to bring him on. I I'm not sure who's good in the world of physics and astronomy at the moment Sabina Hoseneld has been on twice, Mitchy or Kaku came on, wasn't impressed with that. episode, particularly Um Who else Obviously, Eric, Weinstein, but it's not just going to be astronomy physics. I don't know. I don't know who's cool in the up and coming communication space. So if you've got suggestions, throw them in the comments, I'll check them out. I love that. space and astronomy is a huge part of my loveve Lning, so I'm down. I'm down Christoph eight one eight eight. As before, we'll ask again. I like it. Can we get a two to three monthly Q and A instead not linked to subs? Yeah, I understand unpredictability is frustrating alsoso, sometimes I hit the subs number and I can't get r to recording because of the schedule until I mean, this one is going out I don't know what the number of subs is, but it's probably closer to two point Three And sorry to four point Three them four point two Sorry I understand if we just did them regularly, would be easier Yes, maybe that would be nice. I just been what we've always done. I was doing it every ten thousand, then every fifty thousand, then every hundred thousand Yeah Alternatively, if you want them more frequently, just get your friends to subscribe Get your friend, makeake sure that you're subscribed and you'll get them more quickly. Grab your girlfriend's phone, quickly subscribe. that's For me, that seems like the easiest solution. I will try and speed them up I want to do more solo stuff. I've got this beautiful new studio I might well just stand in it and talk about stuff. so I'll try I'll try and make it happen more quickly I promise Payton Bowo Bow belowo, below do. Lonely chapter until financial freedom or some large level of success, or semi lonely chapter with some drinking and maybe a goal to enjoy my youth. Is it simply a matter of going pro and reaping pro level results or semi pro and being content with semi pro results, yet actually doing things outside of the pro level activity I hope that makes sense is If you If you haven't listened to this podcast much That sentence sounds like the ravings of an insane person That is Hm That is I understand what you mean I I'm just going to assume that everyone who's listening understands what you mean But that is the most mododern Wisdom pilled sentence that I've ever read So congratulations. You get you get question of the you get question of the video. I'll start doing that now. Well I'll have a question of the episode and that is question of the episode because it is so deeply entrenched in the law. of modern wisdom. Lonely chapter until financial freedom or some large level of success. So do you want to lock in until you've basically reached escape velocity with success and or financial freedom? go focused on work with a little bit of time off to enjoy drinking and maybe a goal to have some fun in your youth, Do you go pro and get the pro results quickly or semi pro and be content with getting fewer results but actually enjoying stuff Depends on your age, dude, if you're nineteen I don't think that locking in super aggressively is where you need to be. I think that having some fun is perfectly acceptable. I think as you start to get, look at me like just creating arbitrary rules about the age that you need to begin to do stuff at. You can do stuff whenever you want t least if I was to create a prescription, If I was gun to my head, you have to create one. I think up to about the age of twenty four, twenty five probably not going to see much divergence between you and your friends based on how much you've locked in, but you will look back and have a big difference on how much fun you had especially if you're already talking about you're going semiro. or semi lonely chapter stuff, like locking in quite a bit, but also giving yourself a bit of a break. I think that's good. Then contrary in opinion, I think that you can really fucking grind it twenty six, twenty seven through mid thirties, that is a good period. That is a great period you've got past the issues of low respect because you're a young guy, so the world's not really going to listen to you as much as it will be when you're a little bit older. And you've got bit of momentum And you've got some experience so you can fullyck like really, really capitalize on it and use some leverage If I was you Try and follow something like that. But there needs to be a period of real monk moding in my experience. I don't think you can always semiro it There's a period where you need to go pro because otherwise you're going to beaten by people who are prepared to go pro. And it doesn't it's not about being better than other people or whatever, but if you want to If you want to reach some degree of escape velocity with success or financial freedom, which are the two things that you brought up I think that you need to have You need to have a period where you're very obsessive and really, really locked in Pick when you want to do it, my advice would be to go mid late twenties through early thirties really well for me Uh, and Other than that, have some fun That's my that's my that's my thinking Peter Fisk six five nine eight. Will you be chatting to Finn and Horatio again? I hope so. They're definitely not both going to be leaving the UK at the same time and I'm kind of locked in here. However ve got the to around the UKine Iland in October and I'll probably try and bring them on then, which would be fun because I'll be in London. I'll have some time off around about that We had Victoria one who's one of the writers of Innet and has been on history a bunch. and That was fun. He was out here recording not doing live tour doing a stand upp. I love Finn Ratio. I think Finn versus History is one of the best podcasts on the internet at the moment. I think it's kind of quintessentially British. I wonder how much it's broken through into America. I would imagine onlyn a little, but I might be wrong M They're great I think they're ascendant and I'm I'm really happy to have been a part of that journey for them or whatever for me. L it's fun to see those guys unfold everything The episode we did of Finn versus the Internet, I think is I think it's the most blade one that they've ever done and it was It's arranged It's like fucking an out of body experience to do, but also A lot of fun and I learned tons seeing those guys operate and They just enjoy it, they're having a good time. They're having a good time, and that's what I'm trying to. We're we're trying to have a good time on the show I know I support them and I will be bringing them back on as soon as I can An American Jedi Chris, when the heck you getting a dog? I just this is part of Big Glden trying to this is the multip pronged assault of Big Golden convincing me buy a dog. I want A fucking dog, okay I want a dog. I'm climbering. ucking I don'tether the Americans will get that reference, like clucking for it I'm sorry, haven't one yet. I will do soon and he or she will live in the studio with me and be a regular feature. There can be a raised dog bed behind me during the episodes and it will light light it perfectly It this beautiful golden glow behind together you know, the four K camera zoomed in on the fur just you are going to be so fucking sick of me talking about my dog. The fact that you're trying to get me to speedrun getting the dog I can guarantee you that you are going to be so pissed at the fact I won't shut up about it once I've got it Enjoy this time. Enjoy pre dog, Chris. Also, enjoy pre kids, Chris because Once I'm in on that, you had better be ready for two years of child rearing pediatrics episodes. okay? I just We're in the beforefore times. BD For Dg B big dick All right, I'm gonna to leave it there. I love you all. Thankk you so much for supporting me. It means an awful lot. 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