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And what does Bravo do? Give us a part four that we weren't even expecting. And here's the thing, I had the screener. So I watched it before it aired, but they cut it off on the screener. So it wasn't until I made it to the studio that I learned about these one on one conversations in partart four. I had no idea. And I was like, what are you doing to us? I came in ready to celebrate today and We have to do this all over again next week I am excited about one on one conversation. I really want to hear what they say. I'm more excited about that than what we're going to talk about today. but I don't think it's necessarily fair that I'm more excited about that because West in Amanda did the bare absolute bare minimum in the reunion. And I know one watch What Hppens Live, which by the way, you did a great job. U I know they talked about this there, but The fact that he could only, first of all, some of the things he said to me make sense. Like his sentences did not even make sense. and he could barely string together words. And then on his podcast he has complepletely different energy And so much to say. And if I'm Bravo I'm pissed. Yeah And it's very similar with these one on one conversations, like you couldn't do it at the reunion, but now you can have these one on one conversations. and It's kind of shitty that We get them next week, but we know that they went to Italy after that. So whatever they're saying in these combos, it didn't really matter They're still Together Yes I just thought they were both incredibly disappointing. and I know that Andy asked her about a beta blocker and Sierra said that beta blockers shouldn't hide your emotions. There was zero emotion from Wes, like none. And from Amanda, I would say I'd give her like, I could percent emotion and it was only in the beginning and it was more about her feeling bad about herself, likeike she felt attacked and that's why she was crying. But there was very little regard to the hurt that they cause the entire mouse. and it's It's kind of weird to watch. I'm like, y'all really don't give a fuck. And I feel like Jesse said that, I don't know if he said it on camera or between the breraakes, but He kind of was like, I don't think they realize how much it would affect the group. And I'm like, how does that not offend you This that's fine to it's actually not fine to say, but fine. let me give you When we did it, we didn' we knew about Sierra and Kyle. We didn't know how much it would impact everyone elses f. Let me just say I give you that. Then at this point in the reunion though, when you've talked to people, when you've seen their reaction, when you've seen their' reaction, how do you how are you still sitting on this couch and saying, we didn't realize how it would affect the group? And then you have literally your so called best friend crying, sobbing about how this affects somethinghing that was so beautiful to him, right? Like it's not just the summer offs in the show, even though I did love when Lindsay was like, this affects people's well being It does. And she's right because Scand of all ended one season after the scandal. It just was never the same It just h stander Cup roules. Yes, yes. It just highlights the selfishness of the two of them where they're like, well, we're good. we don't really care about the rest of you and how it impacts you. And that is when he said, what's the headline, that's probably the headline that I should have said when Andy asked me that because it's like It's about us, not about you. and you just have to deal with it. That's literally the energy. It is. I'm like, not only did they think, not only did they not care that they were going to hurt Kyle and Sierra They also didn't think about it would affect how it would affect the entire group dynamic. It didn't they didn't think about how it would affect Summerhouse or how it has already affected in the c. and how it will affect people's jobs and livelihoods. And I think that's also part of the reason why Jesseie's crying because I think Jessse was like, I loved going to summer house with my best one of my best friends. L we were very, very close And it was very like that was enjoyable to me that this could be my job that I could go to the summer house with one of my very good friends and have a time And Jessseie's like That's not happening anymore. Like that version of whatever this ends up being is absolutely not going to be the case this upcoming summer one. And to like I thought we were actually really, really close. Yeah. We clearly are not You were lying to me about a lot of them. like not even just which Kyle kind of said, he was like Wes we were very, very close, which I think Kyle gets upset because people are always like, I can't believe Sierra and Amanda did that, but I think people hold women friendships in a higher regard. And that's why it's so shocking for Amanda to do this to Sierra and less shocking that Wes would do it to Kyle. But they were very, very close. and Kyle's like It's not just this, it's everything that I found out about you that I had no idea was happening. And I'm like, Like West was clearly putting on a certain character for the show And people who thought that they had real friendships outside the show are like I don't know how much we really need. Yeah. I think that's the real time thing that you know, a Jesse and a KJ are realizing because It's almost like Jesse knew West was a womanizer. He knew that he loved women and loved, but like to like to be in the company of multiple women and all of that and was a playboy, but he never thought that that same energy would be applied to friendship And that's where I also think a lot of Jesse's tears are because he's just like, you're just a bad person That's what it comes down to. These are bad people. And I never I've really tried to refrain from saying Amanda's on something The way she is in part three, like she's almost sleepy in part three. Yeah. And she goes and talks Ly During the break, that's when I was like, okay, this girl's on something. Like she's just like, yeah, I mean, maybe I'm naive. And I was like Get her out of here I mean, get her out of here I think even Bailey was like, what's going on? And Bailey was trying to be like girl Wake up. I'm worried about you. You're in a bad situation. At one point, Bailey like yelled across the stage He's gonna embarrass you. I'm Bailey hasn't said anything and she's like, I can't take this anymore. What's going on? Why are you not hearing what everyone is saying? And I just I don't want to give three annoyed me because they started to play, not Sierra, not Mia, but Kyle and Bailey were playing into the babying of Amanda And it's like, listen, we do need we've come at Amanda a lot. We do need to start giving it to West more, but giving it to West doesn't mean giving Amanda a pass as in she can't help herself. Likes you're taking advantage of her. Amanda's a grown woman who made a decision. and that was very clear. At least we got that in part three two He told her He basically we know he told her he loved her. And Jesse said it. Jesse said, you told me you' in love with her, which means he told or I'ming you're falling in love with her, which means he told Amanda that And A then decided to pursue it. So the kyle of I care about her and I want to make sure she's taken care of. and it's like, no. Amanda needs to take care of herself. She went from daddy to Kyle and now West. And this whole, I just want to make sure she's okay. No tile like She needs to like grow up I don't disagree with you. I do think she needs to grow up. and for some reason, and I don't think it's just Kyle and Amanda. I think a lot of the cast feel like Amanda can't like fend for herself. So I don't know what they have seen for all these summers that make them feel like Amanda is incapable Um, but it It definitely seems they feel that way And she is a grown up and I agree that that we we have definitely giving it to Wes and giving it to Amanda, but At the end of the day, It seems like Amanda can only care about one person. and I think that's always been the case. And the one person is herself. I know we're team Kyle and you know, we like Kyle now or whatever I will never say that Kyle was a good husband. No, he was not. I don't think that he was a good husband. I just I don't know if with everything that's in front of me and the way that she acted these three parts of the reunion, because a lot of people are like, she made a mistake. She sure. let's say she made a mistake Then she kept making that mistake. Then she lied about that mistake. Then she fessed up the mistake, not because she cared about the people she hurt, but because she was scared about being found. She admitted. Yes, she admitted that. So then she puts out the statement If you genuinely cared about the people that you hurt Wouldn't your first reaction be I need to see them in person. I need to talk to them. I need to at least I know I can't repair this, but I need them to know how sorry I am. And like let's lay low and let them figure out and process what's happening right now Dad, you decided to bar hop around some of the most popular bars in West Village where you know your photograph is going to be taken. You decided to go to a Yankees game and kiss and be all over each other. like these are You're making these decisions and you know what's going to happen from these decisions. I can't say that you really genuinely care about the feelings that you hurt if you then go and do those things. Yeah. becausecause you know that just makes everything worse for those people. I'm with you So I'm like and then you come to the reunion and At one point, she's like, I'm so hurt by this and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And I'm gonna think about me. Yeah Yeah. She literally said that. I just need to think about me I'm like, that's what you've been fucking doing But I just it just didn't ever seem Like we got a genuine heartfelt like Sierra, I'm so sorry. and At one point, she was like I made I did a shitty thing in Siergoes. You're still doing a shitty thing And then Andy was like What would you like I mean, Amanda, what would like what do you kind of have to say And she goes in regard to what He just l in regard to the feelings that you hurt In regard to Sierra, we just played all these clips of you guys crying and Sierra being there for you. Sierra just said that she would do it again if she was given the opportunity like she's not going to stop being that friend for you because she doesn't want to see a woman put herself in that position. She's not taking any of that any of her friendship back And you're like Yeah Yeah, that that was what makes it like even Even in Scandoaval You gotta recel, like I felt like Rquel felt bad about what she did I to in Raquelsel back. He needs to take a page out of Rquel's book, you know, like I never thought I'd be saying that I don't even know for a c books I think she needs to take I think she needs to take a page out of it and like go away and work on yourself. And anything I've seen of Rquell, she seems to be healed and thriving. Instead, Amanda's just blocking out everything and centering herself in all of it. It's I'm so glad you brought up the point. When Andy asked her that, and she goes, regards to what? And it's like, Sierra just pours it out and she's like, I will say till I'm blue in the face, Siera, I'm so sorry. And then that's when she was like, but I need to I think I need to work on me I need to think about me. I just literally, I'm Lindseay. I When Lindsey came back with that drink in her hand, I don't know if it was. I it was ood. abbssolutely not. It just I just was like, Jesus, I did feel, I will say. They were asking very pointed questions. in part three, that I felt like even through Wes's word salad, we were finally getting somewhere. And maybe he didn't mean to say too much He basically said It was emotional before. He and we see even in the preview, he clearly has been and it's If you think when I think about the emotion that West would have on his face, when Mia points out that there were two instances where she just felt like this is something more. And Amanda is like, off course, you're looking at it through a different lens. No When he when she walks around that corner and she hugs him and starts crying The way he kisses her. I love you. The way and she says, I love you. And then remember before he said I love you when he came to the bathroom. But the look on his face when she walks away is so sincere. There is so much care behind his expression that it's like, Oh no, you really like her And I do believe I do believe one that he was lying saying Amanda was making the move, but I absolutely believe that he was falling for Amanda last summer. I still don't think that I'm going to go ahe and say they weren't fucking, but I absolutely believe he was preying on her in a sense and this isn't giving her an o. He was so into her this past summer and she was maybe she was into the attention of it all. Yes. And then slowly once she separated from Kyle, not twenty twenty six, I mean, living separate from him, started to, you know feel the same thing too and like the attention she was getting from him, but they He has been into her since last year er much that. I think he's been into her he was into her the entire summer and I think it built over the summer and then knowing that she was heading for divorce, it was building like even more and more and more. And I D't To me, everyone being like they hooked up here, I don't care. It was inappropriate.. inappropriate last time I Marri to Mia's point. And Mia gave two examples. There was way more examples. Amanda being like you're reading into everything with a different lens. Y'all gave us the lens We didn't want to read we didn't want to read through it through that lens. Y'all told us, hey, it's something more. So now we have to be like Oh it's something more. When did this start? We got a new lens because y'all gave it to us. Nobody wanted this lens. Nobody wanted it. And even her being like my post I know, that's when everyone was like, girls She's like, everyone post things on purpose. and you she might have even been coming West. L she wanted to give West a little bit of like attention through her posts and that's what she chose because they I don't think that they think about other people. No. So I think that she posted those things for West, not realizing You look like an asshole to everyone else once this ges out And what pissed me off The most with this timeline First of all, they've lied so many times. West even got caught up in a lie with the whole Niha thing on stage He also got caught up in a lie when he said, Ohh, we're not using the word love yet. And Jessse was like, bro, you already told me that you were fall in love with J. tellell the truth. It seems like they can't and they came in there with things that they were going to say and they weren't straying from that. I don't know whose idea it was to come up with this certain timeline or whatever And I know we don't want to bring the sky up But it is what it is because Biryana Chicken fry also went on her pod after part two And she said West and Amanda have not talked to her. since she told them like, hey I'm going to talk about this on my podcast because Dave said something,, whatever. She's like, that's fine. I get it. And I went pretty hard on it because Brown is like, I can't understand how Amanda could do this to Sierra. So she went pretty hard on Amanda on her podcast. Fine. She's like, yeah, I get why they wouldn't want to talk to me But them saying that nothing happens until end of February, early March, she's like, it is bullshit. West told me Yeah before the Super Bowl that they were fully a thing. So I just and obviously this was filmed so long ago, so you like can't go back and say like, this doesn't add up whatever. But between Dave Portnore saying it, not even knowing he's saying anything he shouldn't say And Brianna being like This is bullshit. You told me before the Super Bowl, which was february third. so did you tell her on F february second or did you tell her in January And You went to Miami with Amand and was like, that was on a fred thing. Why was Amanda there? Why was was that a brand? Like I thought it was wor. No. Becauseuse why was Jesse there Jesie and West had something. So why was Amanda there? I't even put that together Yeah, I'm like, where are these follow up questions? If it was just a friendship thing, it's really weird for a friend to fly to Miami. Yeah, no, they were into each other for sure. Yes. And a friend who just posted their divorce eleven days ago. Like it just there's just too many things that say that their timeline is a complete lie and obviously J doubled down on that again. He was like, it's really fishy. It doesn't make sense. But like I'm even shocked that they would go and lie this boldly when there are people that know for a fact it happened And I'm not saying again, I'm not saying that they were physical in twenty twenty five. I'm saying I don't care if they were or not. It's been inappropriate for a long time. way before their February March timeline. I mean, even Bailey was like I mean, I feel like the Super Bowl stuff is really damning. And it's like it is. And they and even when it was brought up, you see Amanda roll her eyes just like, We're talking about this again. Did you hear my word comment on Watch what happppens Live when they brought up Dave Portan and I go,'m not a f. I'm not a fan of Oh I heard it. The mic that hit us. Please let to say Tippy shows N Not a fan, not into it. No, it that was very frustrating. The timeline we should not even use the word timeline. We need another word for it because And it' they've stuck to because even another part where they got caught up was when West is like, I just want to go back to how it was. And Lindsey's like the Ay stage. I then they're like, well, when you know, I don't know if it was Andy or Lindsseay that's like Andy was like six weeks ago.ike when was it Like you're telling on yourself the honeymoon stage was last year. It was probably the fall when you guys were hanging out and people didn't know and you're turning off your location until somebody noticice it. That's when things started. That is when it was the honeymoon phase when no one was in your business, not six weeks ago Yeah. And I think that I think that Amanda is sticking to that timeline because it makes her feel better about one she does not want to ever be called a cheater. Yeah Clearly for some reason that was like the most ding day for her of the night Sorry to interrupt you, but that's the irony in it. She's very much so like, I'm not a cheater, right? She didn't cheat physically, which emotionally is worse She didn't cheat physically, right? And her whole thing is Kyle's a cheater I am not. That's my one thing. Yet you're sitting on the stage and West is being outed as a cheater. He let this girl believe that they were a couple and was admittingly dating other people, that is a cheater. So you can't stand on my ground I' being a cheater and you didn't when you were literally with with an admitted cheater Also, they were like, Have you been faithful since you guys expressed feelings? And he said, no. But I have been faithful since the statement. and I was like the statement that was three weeks ago. Congratulations. I don't think you couldn't have been because people have been tracking you guys ever since you put the statement out. So it's really hard for you to cheat West And the fact that you expressed feelings and still went and hooked up with other people still went and saw Miha and told her you loved her and had sex with her And then him being like, she thought I was in exclusive relationship and you see Amanda's eyebrows rise like What? You told me she wasn't your a girlfriend She didn't she is not going to remember all the stuff that was said at the reunion No, and she's not going to watch just like she didn't watch this season. So Wes will get away with it. Even if she did watch it we have We have just seen for too long. the type A woman that Amanda is in a relationship I just don't think it matters Yeah. She's gonna just believe whatever and that's perfect for W. Yeah. 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I mean it. Buyers rejoice. Buy your car today on Carbana. Limitations exlusions apply S Sunday return policy are cararbana. I keep thinking, let's just say they stay together What is next career wise for you Because Aanda doesn't work outside of the show We know that and She met Kyle the show I don't know if she was really working then or how like has Amanda really worked and had a job? She met him so young. And then she started the show influcing like Brandy those are Yeah,s it's like, so now what? West is that complex. I'm sure, you know, I'm not rooting for him to lose his job by any means, but you know, I can't imagine that podcast is doing all that hot you know, he's got his other stuff at compleomx. so at least he's got a job there. But it's just like What's the future? What are we doing here? Wh Kyle kept being like, what's the plan? What's the plan? That's the plan? And I was like, yeah, can we answer that? I'd really like to know. West doesn't want to answ that. He's biting his lips. What is the plan? I'm curious If you think They will be on summer House next season which is going to start filming. I know Jesse kept talking about that. Jesse kept being like, we've got summer house coming up. we've got summer House, but I didn't ask him I don't think he knows I just, I don't know I think that I don't think there's any way they don't make an appearance. I think Part four. is is kind of a buffer into summer House. I think that I think Park four is going to read the room. I think I think Bravo because it doesn't seem like it's been announced who's been like confirmed for the cast next year. And I think Bravo is going to see what's given to them in part four. I did think it was interesting that the podcast question was brought up by Andy I was like, that's not a good sign for you West. Oh that he's talking on the podcast And that Andy brought it up on Washingon happappens Live. How do you feel that West said nothing to say at the reunion and is saying all these things on his podcast. That's not a Bravo podcast. The fact that Andy chose that question Qeens of Bravo, by the way F all of the questions that he could have I can't even imagine how many questions he got to ask to ask was an interesting choice. I was like that's not a good sign. I think they are coming to the summer House. I think there will be separate weekends. I think Sierra will come one weekend and then they'll come another weekend. That's what I think is going to happen I don't think it's a goodcer or we'll get West. There's no way we're just getting Amanda. It's either going to be West and Amanda together or it's just going to be West. That's what I think is gonna happen. I's be in the house with that. Ivesile hores. So forgiving I Kyle is forgiving and he's going to do his job. He always says that. I'm never going say I'm not going with anybody. He's going the vibes. I think of someready plan or not what? likeike Jesse even saying on Watch What Happens Live. He couldn't say I said they're going to be friends again. He couldn't say he wouldn't say that I feel like that based off of him saying he invited West to a show They asked if he's texted with Amanda. He said yes. And so I just feel like there is room becausecause it's different for him than it is for Sierra. But again, it's like he did say, how can I be friends with somebody I can't trust? You might not be friends with them, but you might be able to party with them during the summer house. I am telling you you I just like the lives would be so. I think they are, but that'll be the drama that' get as viewers, but I truly think they will come on separate weekends to Summer House. And I feel more convinced of that. after watching part three and doing Watch What happens live and just to be clear, nobody said a thing to me. I have no idea who is going to be a part of it, but just The fact that you are texting with Amanda, you are inviting Wes to do things. you are Kes smeeling your friendship back together and trying to see if you can rebuild trust. That's what I think is happening there. And I think they're going to be back. Kle is already doing a sit down with him. Kyle's probably going to be like, thank you for being more honest than you ever have. I think that's also part of the purpose of the sit down. Yeah, But then Kyle has like said horrible things about him on social since then. I think the purpose of the sit down is to show West talking and to show Amanda talking. It doesn't look like Amanda's ona lockers or well, see I already said that that doesn't stop emotion, but it doesn't look like Amanda's on whatever, whatever, whatever vibe she was on at the reunion, It doesn't look like she's on that vibe with Lindsey And same thing with West and Kyle. And so I think that is to show us show them being humans because they were robots on that stage And I think that's I think that's what we're going to get. I think they're coming back Definitely West, I think is coming back I do. I also think that their entire plan, which they kind of said on the reunion and wet West maybe got Amanda to get behind is We're not going be able to mend things with Sierra Okay. so like we're going to lose Sierra, but we can probably mend things to everybody else. I think that I think that is What West pitched to Amanda and Amanda was like, okay I do too. I think I think that's what I mean about That's why I think they'll come back. I think Sierra will leave. I think we'll get her a couple of weekends. We know she's already doing Love Island. so she won't be there the whole time, But I think we're going to get some of Sierra And someome of them, and then I think we'll probably see Sierra go and We will have them It's okay to forgive for your own mental state and, you know, like you should forgive because It's really about for you than it is for them, right? Because it's heavy to hold that in. So I understand the reasoning behind forgiving doesn't mean that you forget or that you have to be friends with someone. And I think something Kyle said where he talks about feeling like a fool was hit so hard because he says I was talking to you about my sex life Wh show with Amanda And we know that it's going to come out that West had feelings for her at this time. And you're listening and they're not divorced yet So you're listening to this man pour his heart out to you and talk about his feelings. and there's no way you didn't use that to your own advantage. when you were that is diabolical That is where I'm like, Kyle, this is why you cannot be friendly with this man because he took your pain And he used it for his gain paid off because he is with your ex wife And to me, that is so sinister. in what he was doing, like his behavior is so sinister in that way that I'm like But Maybe Kyle needs to break his rule and say, actually I don't want to film with this monster. I agree with you that I think it's totally fine for people to forgetive. Even Sierra at the end was like, I'm glad I could just like move on Like You can just be like, it's whatever. I'm over it. I just know you're never going to be my friend anymore. I don't hold hatred towards you, but like You Maybe you were never my friend. I don't even know, but I just know that like the type of friend that you think you are or that you think is okay to be is not a friend for me. Yeah. I just don't understand the whole like now everyone has to be like all j. I just I cannot even I can't even picture what it would be like for everyone, not just Kyle and Sierra for a man and West to walk to the summer house together and just be like, what up I know. Like even Jessie, I feel like would be like, what And they get drunk and then they go out and party and have a good time It doesn't seem like you even said I don't know if you said this before we started filming or not, but like you even said that like mononths after this has all come out A month after the reunion is filmed Jesse's energy towards the situation isn't like Like ye, that's the he's still one youre supposed to h That's the energy you'reosed to have on summer House. Like let's send it. let's rip into the summer, d d d. Jessie looks sad. Yeah genuinely sad So you're gonna to have that Yeah. I just don don't I agree with you that like it seems crazy for them not to be involved at all. Im just not sure how it happened. Well, Sally Carson comes to the summer house We know she to move around on different shows. She loves the show and she has the right energy for summer House. if we're being on. I think she would give it. I think that she would call stuff out. I think that, you know, she would be fun. She would match Kyle's energy. What did they call her a bar rat Like she likes to be out, She likes to have a good time. She's self deprecating in certain ways I think You got to bring her out at least for one weekend At least. Hopefully more Um, I don't know I don't know you do with Daring KJ. I thought that they were back together. I think in my mind. I keep thinking the reunion. I forget it was filmed in April. And not that it and we're just watching it now. So in my I really that was very a real reaction. I was like, wait, but they're not together. I thought that was So they've broken up and gotten back together a few times. And KJ, even when they, I don't know if they broke up fully or not like we don't know what's happening all the time, but like KJ has deleted all of his pictures of Dara before and then the next day back likeike there's a new picture because he like His like aesthetic on his Instagram is like five pictures. You know what I mean? He's like those people. So yeah, it's not that big of a deal when that happens. So when it first happened, I was like, is this another Like I'm like, you know, changing around my Instagram becausecause Dara still had all her pictures up. She never took them down. I think they're still up on Dara's page But then they unfollowed each other. And then I was like, okay. And then it does seem that they have broken up. I'm like, looking It doesn't seem like there's any like You know, like forever Weday, may twenty fourth. This is why I thought this couple was still together. How am I supposed to know I think that was posted the day before. They broke up. They broke up. Yeah. How am I supposed to know Yeah. I know. I mean, it seems like it's a little chaotic between the two of them, but I liked both of them a lot too. and It does seem like Dara has a crazy level of maturity. and I don't know if I've said this on the podcast, but if you Follow her. on TikTok and watch her videos The way she speaks is just so soothing I could wash or put on makeup day I'll follow her on. I'm not very good at like makeup She makes me believe that I can do it What an advertisement. She made her Oh, I bought products based off of her suggesting. Well let's forward everybody to her and get off of the Bethany Frankl trarain. Like let'ss her. Oh, no Dara's product reviews are amazing. Her application is like white noise. It is the most beautiful, relaxing thing to consume on TikTok. And she's clearly very smart. Ver. So I could see her being completely. I mean, she came into the summer house with West. Yeah and like ye was completely fine. I think that she would be completely fine going in the summer house with KJ. so I don't know if that'll be. I know. hope I do want Bailey back. I do want Bailey back. Oh Rachel, how have we not talked about this? I laugh out loud when Jesse goes, It was nice to see Levi It's like I can't remember what happens sometimes. We talked so much during the break. I was like, I can't remember what happened during the break and what happened on the show. It's all such a blur. Yes, I forgot he said that You said, Oh, M could shade. And he was like, No, I love Levi. But I think he was it was more shady towards the editors. like we It was not L this season. I thought it was so fucking funny. It was so funny. I laughed out loud, but also was like, yeah, like we never saw Levi the entire summer. But I do like that Jessie was like, No, I actually really like. I think they all all just didn't see her. Yeah. And I I wanted her. I thought she was and I know there was so much going to address her comments about But I think she probably with the mental health and what KJ confessed, she probably couldn't say that shit anymore. She probably felt bad. probably wasn't a good. Maybe you should sit this one out and be quiet because nothing about Dara, what I will say is like you can't say that about her because they're not together. They've broken up. Mia says they should, you know, has been like, look, you don't need to be together, but she's clearly tried to fight for this relationship and kept a lot of it quiet that nobody even knew. So all of that is bullshit Um, and I'm I do wish it would have been addressed, but You know, I'm happy that the real is coming out when it comes to their relationship. Well, I think that That's a whole other thing that wasn't even like reallyally it was like lightly talked about at one point in part three. But another thing that of course they did not think about or calculate when they were making this decision. The entire reunion was about Amanda and West. when This summer house before we knew about Amanda and West was an excellent season. We were loving it And the fact that we didn't get to talk about so many things because of like we didn't even talk about the Ser and Jesie, like barely of it all because It was so focused on you, too know. Like you all, you two decided to ruin an entire season and maybe a franchise. And maybe a franchise. Yeah I Listen. I wanted this to be over but I am quite looking forward to part for. I know. I am I' looking forward to It looks like even though I hate that it's on there, I hate that it's on their time, but I am looking forward. I know. I will you did bring up a really good point. I do wonder what this does to the narrative and I'm sure Bravo execs are quite frustrated to see them at this sweedding because You're gonna to say all this stuff. all like we know Lindseay says, he told me this, this and this about you. We know that West is gonna to say he had deeper feelings for her longer because it's gonna upset Kyle So we know all this is going to come out and yet still you're moving forward with this relationship, which I do want to say this because I thought West tolded himself with this. when he's like, well He didn't say we have to see it through, but It was like kind of like, well we have to make it work. We have to. Andy asked him, do you feel pressuous to try to like make this work because of all this has caused And West was like, I mean ye, yeah, I do, but that shouldn't be the reason that we do make it wor That To me, you could have stopped there. L, yeah, he's gonna to follow that up, but of course you do because you are a man who cares what everybody thinks about them. And Amanda is a woman who cares what everybody else's man thinks about her. And so with that together, it's like you have to The only way through this is to stay together and say you tried, say, and you might love her. look, and it might work, but you have to say, I tried, this is different. I love her. I'm committed to her, which he already told on himself, he wasn't. ' you were feeling away about her, but you still were fucking around They have to go through it this way if you're ever going to try to I don't know, rectify your reputation in some way at the end of the day. My hope is that we all just forget about it and move on. Like we aren't talking about Rquel and Tom Sandoval anymore Yeah. I am kind of I do kind of because like on his podcast, he gets really excited to talk about like And then I know who took a picture of us when we were in the Rome customs line and people are following us, people are saying we're fleeing the country and d d. I'm like, he's really into the attention of all of this. Like kind of just w to like let them be. And ye, because they're trolling us now This might be controversial But I do think that Amanda is the type that West That works for well Yeah And I think that they will last a little while. Well they do so they're not like wreaking havoc out here in the dating world, right? Like let's put that monster in his cage and not have him out here like messing up ruining women's lives by promising things that he's never actually going to do for them or be for them. And Amanda, we don't need her latching on to the next man or somebody else's man or whatever. like so you guys go be bad people together. with you on that I'm with you. I think that they I think that they will last do I think they're going to get married and have kids? And No, I don't think that. I don't think West is even close to ready for that. U I just can't imagine him like just all of a sudden like not wanting to have a time becausecause that's like who he is right now in his life But I do think that they'll last a little bit because I think Amanda wants it to actually work. Yeah. And I think that West wants to win a little bit. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah. Well There is that clip where he texts me on and said after the reunion, you win I'll probably say this again after part four, but I do hope We're done with them They're trolling us now. They're spitting in each other's mouths They want us like ing them every single time they walk the streets. I I'm in New York. I might run around the West Village and see if I. I see them. Shame, shame. Same. I see if I see them. I No, I would w to act like I don't even know who you are. I told I would totally pay them down That's what he wants We have to do this The attention. I don't know if she wants the attention or not, but She She wants the attention. She just to care about his attention. She wants the attention. L let's not forget the big announcement coming up soon, the social media posts. I loved when they when they put all the different songs that she had played and showed her social like She likes being cheeky. they like and this is was noted when they talked about the honeymoon phase and he was like, I want to go back to when things were normal They like the thrill excitement. Nbody knows and buubble like yeah, they like that kind of stuff. They enjoy that attention her as well. So The best thing we can do is nothing for them. We're going to give it part four because they're making us and we have a job to do But after that, No, we're not And the city is still on. And the city is still on. Wait, by the way, you know what? That's my last question for you because I saw your bestie was on or in the audience for W happappens liive. but curious becausecause she kind of was like thrown into this. if she has any opinion on how this is this has affected her season. like If I were her, I'd be pissed. like I signed up for the show thinking it was be A B and C. Now people have super strong feelings toward towards the show, good and bad I'm sure. But it completely changed the vibe of in the city And she's like, that's not what I decided to put my life out there for. You know, we didn't talk about that in detail, but we were last night talking about how now like because we were like, o, there's a part four. you know, I was kind of saying, well, now we can just focus on your show in the city. And she was kind of like, ye, you know, she didn't watch Summer House before. They started watching it because of being on in the city and happening And all the drama. So she does she's not as close to Amanda y she's cooler with just because of Kenny But I also think she's not focused on it because people do not like Kenny And so I think that that has had to be her Focus in all of it is like, okay, well, now people are like, I'm worried about Whitney. Is Whitney Okay? Like so many people were like, what are your thoughts on Kenney? And you know, I'm like, I do know him outside of the show. My one critique I like Kny. My one critique for Kenny. and I didn't say this. I told Whitney this. I was like, if I'm asked, I'm going to say this, so I'll just say on the podcast Gott to stop being on everybody's post and comments that are related to the show and to him. Every time I'm sc I don't know. Every time I'm scrolling, I see Kenny Martin comment. and I was that person when I came off the bachelorette where people would get stuff wrong and I was so trying to convince people whether it was a tweet, a comment it like that's not it. you don't know this or they didn't show the whole thing. And it's like, you'll never win and you'll be exhausted and you'll dig a deeper hole. So my one thing and I told her this too is like I need him to stay out the comments. I need him stop trying to Convince everybody of who he is and just be 'cause you'll never win that. Never I like Kenny for the record. I think Kenny is like fifty percent of the show right now Oh yeah, he is. There's something Kenny does really fun. And I hope they show it because I know he filmed it. L like when he reacts to something, and I really hope he does it Ii I like Kenny and I'd like to see more from Whitney. I think it's really hard because she's her husband takes up a lot of air in the room or not husband, boyfriend takes up a lot of air in the room Hopefully we'll get yeah, we'll get more. Yeah Oh' get more. He did do a sweet anniversary post A one year anniversary Yes. Hven't they been together a long? Officially boyfriend and girlfriend One year.. They were definitely dating before then But I think it's like you're my girlfriend now. She's got another week before it's all about her. Yeah, so yes. And I'm excited for you guys to see the storyline with them. All right, well that is it for usesome part Three, we'll be back for