The Valley Recap and Closing Thoughts

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Mandy A West The lies that both of them go out of their way I can't necessarily say because of what I said last week that they were doing it for the purposes of each other, or if that's just who they are as people. The way we see West telling been one thing or somebody else in the house one thing and then being a completely different way with Sierra. The conversation we see Amanda having with Kyle at the very end Even the way that she just avoids Kyle all week. it's, I mean, the weekend So much to get into. Okay, before we get into the recaps, a word from our sponsor. This episode of Morally Corrupt is presented by Activia. Think your gut could use some health, dive into Activia's gut health challenge, and enjoy just two Activia yogurts a day for two weeks to support your gut health. With billions of probiotics and twenty years of scientific expertise Activia is one of the easiest and tastiest ways to start your gut health ritual. Try Aivia today. 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Where do you want to start We can start Kyle and Amanda because we're going to have to talk about them Again and again and again again and again in the city. It just a whole They really fucked it up. Two hours special. Tw hours special, Kyle and Amanda. And I didn't mind getting even more Kyle on watch what happppens live. likeike Kyle solo, I'm fine. I'm in. The two of them Enough. And not. They should have started in the city at divorce or separation. I don't know if they're divorce, whatever To have to watch it deteriorate more, deteriorate Deteriorate. Howy does that sound weird? More? You're right For another twelve episodes. likeike twenty four episodes of Deterioration? Is that a word I'm going to psy I don't need it. I don't need it. They hated each other eight weeks ago. Well it four years ago. She hates him and I don't believe any of it anymore by the end of this episode because of the lies she tells on the steps and how she w' These are the beginnings of throwing Sierra under the bus, by the way. because we see her do that as they're sitting on those steps. but Kyle didn't know it They were separated at the moment they left that house Everybody saw it except for Kyle. I think they were separated before that, but yes Everybody got it except for Kyle Um, Okay, so We At the ski party, which did, I mean, the Ore party, which looks really fun. And I kept wondering I did. How are they in these jackets in the heat of the summer? Like I know it's hot and humid in the Hamptons in September How were they in these codes? I just kept saying nobody looked like they were sweating Nobody was breaking a sweat. Maybe it was just cold that weekend. I don't know. That just kept that was bothering me I just kept saying, I know that they are dying of heat I know that they're hot. Go back to the Opre before we get to six AM to the late night, the late night activities just I know that this group has such a closeness and you really see it in this episode. It's like everybody knows that this is the last summer like this And I wonder before it all came out. Why do they know that though because Everybody knows that Kyle and Amanda are moving to. That's what I had to say to myself. I'm like, wow, this is really crazy, but everybody knows. that they are moving and the summer will never look the same. And they didn't know they kn that they hated each Well, that there's there was so much resentment and and negativity and bad energy between the two of them that they didn't know what kind of divorce that they would have So I had to say like that's why everybody was crying like that because not everybody, but They just knew it wouldn't be the same. That's what I felt like Um I have to say, I do get tired everybody button in the business it. When Kylt Sierra were talking, I just was like, I don't want to see this. I don't want to see another friend having a conversation for Amanda. I don't want to see Kyle talking to somebody who's not Amanda. If it's not Amanda and Kyle, we just got to let it go. just I think I'm so over And I don't have to be. I mean, now it's over. It really is over But I think I'm just watching this, I'm over everyone inserting themselves into their relationship And this probably isn't true, but I do wonder What their relationship would be like if they actually kept it private all of their friends. There's so much input from everybody else. And I just wonder Kyle would still be Kyle running around late night an occasional making out with a wonder I just want Aaz We have Danny We have Danny and Nia So there's two versions of this. There's the version where you tell everyone everything, and then there's the version where you hide everything from everyone. And it's you're not mked. Why are you talking about this on camera There has to be the happy mediums where we get a little bit, but not enough. They share a little bit, but not everything These are two like polar opposite relationships that are both horrible But one we know every detail and one we're making up what we think it looks like. I agree with you. It's tiring, but it must have been just the absolute worst Vibes Because whenever someone is around One of one of them It comes up, like immediately, people are like, how are you doing one weekend when where Amanda was't there, and Ky was just like, I don't want talk about it. I dont want to talk about it. That's the first thing people want to say. Yeah, I So I feel something. No, no, no, no. it's there. I'm not saying it's not there. I just Amanda, somebody, as we see is very easily influenced And I wonder their relationship could have been could it have been better? Maybe would they have gone to therapy? since they're not talking to everybody else, wouldould they have gone to therapy? Would it have gone longer and then eventually failed? I just don't I just wonder. It was just a thought that crossed my mind because so many people have their hands in it. And that does start like the more you open up people into your marriage, that does start to have to have an effect on you. And I guess maybe I know that from seeing mine deteriorate does start to like play with your mind. And the other thing I thought too is Amanda I don't think ever would have left Kyle if she didn't start liking somebody else. Does this mean that they were physical You know, I say no Maybe, maybe not. But if Amanda had not if Amanda had not latched on to somebody else emotionally I think she would not have had the courage to leave Kyle The energy that we see her give and in the city, which we'll talk about, I think is because She was being, I don't know if she was being embolden, but she felt big becausecause there was somebody else. She had someone else in her life. and that's just Amanda I saw something on a Reddit where it was like, did Amanda come from money hasas Amanda like lived a spoiled life? and I don't know if it's true or not, but it was being litigated in this a subreddit right they were kind of saying that It was Her dad had a really good job and then her grandfather had an even better job. And I guess there's a trust a trust fund, but trust funds can vary, so who knows. But it does seem like there was a sp that she was kind of spoiled and didn't have to like work hard. She could latch ont to one thing after another. And so Amanda didn't all of a sudden become miss independent She latched ono somebody else, emotionally physical. I don't think she's ever been independent in her life ever. Which is why she's laz. I did see the Reddit thread and apparently She likeike her family is like upper middle class. like they did well. they didn't have to worry about bills. but I think someone came out and was like, people acting like she has like a full trust fund and everything. That's just like not true But like her parents gave Kile five hundred thousand to invest into Lverboy. So like they have money They gave her half a million to invest in a lover boy They're doing fine. Yeah. They're doing just fine. like like Yeah If you can't give five hundred to invest in somebody's company, then she easily has a trust fund that's more than half a million That's what I think. I don't know That's what I think But either way it goes, I just was like, Amanda. That just reminded me of the red that your rent is due I can't im Well, I can't I can't imagine My husband's sending me a Venro request for one hundred twelve thousand dollars I must have missed this part because when they brought it up, I was like, wait, did I walk out of? What happened? I missed this. Amanda had not paid rent in three years. So they split their half. They split the r I don't know if they split it fifty fifty but they split rent and she had not paid the rent in three years And there's like all these TikToks and whatever of like, Amanda at home, knowing that lovever boy is in a financial crisis, but not paying rent. That's crazy. That's crazy Yeah, so he calculated it all and sent her a request for one hundred and twelve. hundred and twelve one hundred seventeen thousand dollars. You can't even send that much through Venma Maybe he was maybe he was ming that much A bank That me the wire a bank. Yeah, like I don't I don't know, but yeah he requested from her one hundred and twelve or one hundred and seventeen thousand dollars. That's hilarious. I did not know that. However, it just makes me it just Gosh, these are two people who never should have been married sadly and they know that now. but It's it's like When you marry somebody, it's got to be a partnership You can't marry you marry a partner not a person Amanda was never a partner to Kyle. and that can be because of what Kyle did previously, whatever you to place the blame. She just did not come into this marriage as to be partners And agree That has been evident from the beginning to the end Us I don't think she really wants a likeike a fifty partnership. That's not what a man is looking for No, she wants to be taken care of, which is wild she's in the situation she's in. but you know. She doesn't no, no, let's just settle on this. She doesn't know what she wants She doesn't know what she wants. Yeah also being taken care of is like I I don't necessarily think Amanda wants like a rich guy to come in and pay for everything I just think she wants to do nothing. She do nothing. She'll live She'll live a smaller life to do nothing She wants to be told like what to like, how to dress, like she wants that Yeah. easiest, easiest pathway forward I wonder how she is as a dog mom Someone did DM me and said, did you notice how clean Kyle's apartment was? I came to talk to him I did. I thought about it immediately And I think they that's why they hadiously meet there. at the beginning of at the beginning of Smmerhouse when we were talking about Kyle being like I had to call her mom to come clean up for her at one point and we were like, that is crazy. Why can't you clean up for her? blah blah, blah blah. And now I'm like Well, yeah, I was like, why are you bringing her mom into it? Like you guys should be able to work that out. Be she's used to parents Yeah It's made everything It's wild. Lindsey and Carl talk, you know, I'm over it. I guess, you know, knowing that Getting insight that Lindseay had not processed these feelings, which is probably why she acts the way she does around Kyle I mean, Kyle, I always do this, Kyle, Carl.arl Wh she acts the way she does around Carl, fine. But I I almost fast forward it I just I am happy that they had the conversation and I hope we don't have to have another one. Yeah, I hope so too.. I can't imagine what it felt like to be publicly embarrassed that way. likeike you had no idea that was happening. You would never Sasm that your significant other first best friend would do you in that way. And friend for years. And she's a grudge holder Okay. So, you know, I so I I can see why she's holding on to it, but Being a grudge holder that she is, not me But I just Even present day, like when she's on to watch what happens live. and it's like she's so hesitant So be like Cool with Carl. We're in a good place. We're in a good place or with somebody like that Yeah, when somebody's like Carl was smiling, he was so he's so happy when he talks about you'all. and she's like, Yeahah, it's like You don't have to be friends, but you have to be so hard or hard ended about it Uh So yeah, fast forward. Kyle and Amanda don't talk the whole time U Well, he tries. Let me ask you this If you were Sierra Emia and you're having this conversation with Amanda about you know, like giving her a pep talk and telling her how great she is and a stand up for herself. If your husband walks over to talk to you Would you have stayed there or would you have gotten up I would have gotten up. I would have gotten up. I would got up. I would have gotten up when we were when they were in the bed and Kyle came in. I would have gotten up. Yeah. I think that everyone in the house is tired of getting up. Like these conversations have happened so much that they're like, You're not going to keep You're not going to keep interrupting my day, my night. like I saw someone comment like Mia and Sier, I should have gotten up. They should have. Sier was like, Sierra commented underneath the comment and was like, we were in bed in our room. No, not that one. Amanda came in not that. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, I know. Someone had said it about that one. because I would have gotten up and that's the scenario too. I probably would have been like, they need to talk. Like I don't need to be here for this. I feel uncomfortable in those situations. Same ' it's not my business. This is not for me Yeah It's the trh this information. Yeah, I felt so uncomfortable watching that when they were at the Apre party and sitting in that spot I would have gotten up and if Amanda decided to follow me into the house then I would have kept a conversation going way the other thing is, I think that Amanda doesn't want them to get up. She doesn't want to have the conversation with. And I would want her to tell me If I start getting up, then a man is like, donon't go anywhere. I'm having this conversation. Yeah, yeah, yeah. just was so with you. I would have gotten up. They just look at him done with it. It seems like everybody in the house is like Y'all going have to do this right here. Man. L evenner when Lindseay started, everyone, the only person that said anything was Ben. Everyone else was just like Yeah. hereere we go again Yeah, I just Moving forward, don't let these people this much into your relationship I just it's just it's too much. It's I just don't like I love the closeness of the group But we are crossing boundaries that we just should I don't care how long you've been watching it. and Mia just got here. So I just I just by the way, did you see how Amanda kissed? Jesse? Yes, that was weird. Yes, it is about weird. It is not just like I would wouldn't last one season in this house We would have a very short summer There's just no way get out of my bed. Also I'm not sleeping with someone all summer. Like how Mia and i to share a bed all summer, not doing it. It would be my preference, but it wouldn't kill me It's only for a few days. K me. But I know that house sm. It's not It's the whole summer. It's a few days every week. I know a few days every weekend, but that' out of four days a week. half the week half the summer. I would prefer my own bed, but it wouldn't kill me to be with my best friend. but I I know that house stinks between having all them random people in your house and then they go out they go out and party, they don't bathe They come back and you've got all the liquor, all the smells, all of that from that and they don't do it till the morning. I know that house stinks. smmells like straight feet and wet dog. I know it does H We would not fit in the summer house. We just wouldn't. I would be asking for another house. I would just be asking, is there a guest house? Let's sleep outside on one of the lounge chairs. There' be something we justn't fit in. We wouldn't fit in because we would be mining our home.'t't too hard because I would like for you to make an appearance at some point. No, I'm not doing that. I could have already done. I could have already come to us gone to a summer party I just Oh I would go, but I wouldn't spend the night You know, I could go out with ye Yeah yeah But I no No no, no no. Westn Sierra. West is going around telling people I don't want Tell Sabrina to chill out I don't want Sierra to think that I'm trying to be boyfriend girlfriend with her And then the next thing you know, he is with Sabrina and Ben And they're kissing. And then she's laying in his lap and he's like massaging her neck. And then they go into the bedroom because he really thought he was getting lucky And they kiss again And even Jesse's like, what world is this? What reality am I living in? He even knows it's right. L And this is coming from the man who gets his toes sucked It, you know, during the witching hour of the night. And he even knows that something's not right So your thoughts I mean, this like West wanted to make that was so odd I Wuest knew he shouldn't do it But he was too drunk to say now. He wanted to When they're in the broom and he's like, arere you pushing me down on the bed West rem Oh no, no, no, I'm talking about the original makeout on the chair Fontab Ben and Sabrina who aren't saying a word and are just sitting there watching it Um That makeout was so strange to me and it I felt like Sierra went for it And in West. I think if he was a little bit more sober, would have known that he can't do that But he was not, so he made it out with her. then was like, all right, well I already madeet out with her about as well have sex with her God. Thank God, Sierra was like no. No, she wouldn't have done that She wouldn't have done that, but God. You know is But also what is seat for Jessse laying in bed, like what's happening right now? Jesse is a cook He was going to sit and watch the whole thing. He had I think a smile on his face. If you zoom in, he's in the dark. I think he was smiling like a Cheshire cat. He's a cuck. We know it is kinks are. I think that he was like What and also probably like even The way again, we don't know when these interviews were filmed, but the way he was in his interview was like kind of like This is a horrible idea. I don't know what is going on and I can't believe Wes would do this again. That's the vibe that Jesse was giving. No, he was, he was. He definitely was. It was also like, I'm not getting up Yeah, that too Um I'm already in bed tucked in. I'm glad it ended the way that it ended. It needed to end And I'm glad we didn't talk about it in the morning. You know, we focused on the Amanda and Kyle of it all, and they decided to have she was a little hypey in the morning, but other than that. She was hyped. She told Mia, Mia's like, oh God Mia is worried. And then she like went outside and was like morning And West was like Where's my my? A thumbs up It's not what I'd want after a makeout sess. Don't give me a thumbs up. Who gave the thumbs up first West She went outside was like morning and West had just gotten out of the pool and was just like Just like, see you downstairs And he was like, Yeah I was just like, oh God That is not that's not I would want either. It's not what I would w either man. It's what I would want either. Um, Halen and Amanda I think the biggest takeaway I had is that Again to see Amanda have the conversations she does in the city And for us to say that Amanda only does something when she's like emotionally attached to something else You know, she would have never had the desire to leave Kyle if she hadn't attached herself to West Watching Amanda, Kyle confront Amanda and say to her I had this conversation with Sierra She said this about separation. I'm assuming she's saying how you feel And Amand' like I mean, I'd seear tell me about the conversation, but That's not how I feel. I thought we were headed in the right direction in a good place and I'm like Let's rewind to when you say, I appreciate you girls because you say exactly what it is I'm feeling And I just was like, are you have you lied so much that you can't remember what you say I was like, this probably is a wild statement. And then she blames basically like Sierra did that. I didn't tell Sierra to say that and then ends it with, but I'm going to go stay at a hotel So you do want to be separated. Yeah.re we going to get she blames it on his behavior.. She blames it on his behavior, which is also the pattern. Like that gave his behavior gave her an excuse. It gave her an out. I never said that, but seeing you act like this like you did A B and C. ye. Eactly. She also told Sierra when they were in the city and talking when Amanda walked the dogs She was like when Sierra was like, what do you think about a separation? she was basically like, I'd be down, but he'd never go for is exactly what Sierra told Kyle. She said I just I just ugh Uh, I want to be done with it. I want to be done I have a question though, logistically Kyle and her like her being like, I'm going we're not going to drive together. I going to drive my own car. and Kyle being like, I never thought that we'd be leaving this summer in different separate cars Well, you had to if both you guys had your car there Do we really think they had their car there? or wasas that just like for editing purposes? I don't know, but her being like, I'm driving and he's driving, I'm like, okay, so if there's two cars there, y'all weren't going together Yeah, probably not. Oh, she got in the back seat. Belle said she got in the back seat. Okay I was going to say She took an Uber or a prection vehicle, it seems. Oh, okay. okay, okay. Be when I was confused when he said that, I was like, if there's two cars there, then you guys were gonna have to go home separately. Right. I also don't think it's that big a video for them to drive back to the city in separate cars. No, but it's I get it for. Yeah. Yeah, ye yeah. But I will say Oh'll go ahead I was just say but them leaving separately as in separated, even though that's not what's happening, that's what's happening. Everybody saw it except for Kyle. Like Amanda was like, I did it. I had the conversation. I think Kyle saw it. Acept. just didn't want it. He didn't want it. accept it. 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And I think that hurt my like enjoyment of the show Um When Amanda and Kyle are going back and forth. Yeah And she said, Kyle, you literally made out with someone while we were married. He said says who? She was a college video footage. and he goes Okay like Your point he was kind of like, u I can't really go back at that if she has video proof. Yeah. he was I'm also thinking if she's had video proof, she never told him that she had video proof, which I think she has it. I think she has video proof. But that means I feel like she's been so checked out that she didn't even care to bring it up to him I wonder when she got that information becausecause that was my thought. It's like when we were married, was it right before You know, was it during the summer when we saw it all kind of really break down? Was it After well, no, this was September, so it couldn't have been after really the summer. So I was like, well was it was it more towards the end orr was it? because it's so interesting you say it that way because then when I watched her say that, I saw it It happened at the beginning of their marriage. That's what I really thought. But now that I'm talking No, but no I think it makes more sense because like now that I'm talking to you I like, it had to be towards the end And she was just so checked out. She like never I' like, how did she never bring it up And I think it probably made her feel justified in some of the later actions that she whatever she was doing. Yeah. I didn't think about it at that at all because I'm just so used to hearing about Kyle Cap I just assumed I could have happened at anyact. I just feel like when people find out about their spouses doing things, it's usually like immediate. where you're like, did you do this? So for him to find out, because he did not know she knew about that moment until the camera was on him. The way he said, okay was like Okay Like yeah, I did and I don't there's not really much I can say. I laughed out loud, rewound and watched it again. Like it was so funny to me and I just like Kyle so much right now, which is probably not fully fair, but it is what it is. I like him. You're not alone. Oh, I don't have my Cls and my sweatshirt on Should I go get it C anyone hear me Yeah, I can hear you. I paused because I just assumed. I know you cant hear me. I want to keep all this in. I want to keep all this in because I assume seeing the black 'cause you're on screen, I just assumed that I couldn't see where it said Carls a Mess. And the fact that you left me out here hanging and I've been running around Spotify West Hollywood, wearing a Carl's a Mess shirt By myself G You can't even see yours, but you lift it up for a second. G it on bestess. and I was like, oh no. Gulf it's really suppos to be trans There she is In her Carl's Aess sweatshirt, which I might like better than my t shirt. I have a question for you. and this is no shade. We've already purchased it. We've already done our good deed. We we've kept Lover Boy alive, which mine says Lover Boy Lover boy on the back. I'm assuming yours is too, but f it Oh Mine's not Its like a faded black. It doesn't look as like rich as yours Yeah, yours does look more gray than black than mine. Mine's like a pretty it's black with a pop of white It's a crispy white too Yeah, it's I just can't even imagine how many of these they had to press? . They did them quickly from the from my shirt. It was a quick It was quick, but Thank you that now we're matching. and now you're making me want a sweatshirt, but I can't trust it because of the quality of my shirt. But that's neither here nor there. You know, go out and get your clars in mess shirts and sweatshirts today. support a support a young entrepreneur. So he's not that young, but he looks young. okay. seeeeing somebody I like to consider myself young we're close in age. come on now. give me a look. A young entrepreneur to me is like under thirty. So younger wayay younger than me. justust to be clear. He started at younger. I u I think it was going to say that it's not fair, but I do love Kyle and it is what it is. But I would like for you to tell me Over under Seven times did Kyle cheat on Amanda? What's your bet Oh under But like right on the line We're pretty close. I had to think about it for a second And omet I did appreciate that he he didn't say I didn't. He said who according to who? Because that at that moment they were already divorce or had filed for a divorce or at least separated. I don't know if they've offially filed. They've least announced their separation at that point that we saw, which was my biggest issue with this episode So first I'll say to your point about you saying talking about Kyle and the way you feel about him and I said, you're not alone. I saw article that was like how Kyle became the hero And it really made me sit with the damage that Mandy and West have done with each other. She's Mandy now because we're in the city. the West that they have done the West. what they have done to all these people and with these situation. it's like because of what they've done, the damage, it feels like everybody has gone up a notch or two or three except for those two. Like what like a bad thing was done and people are hurt and the like that will sit with Like the Kyle And the Sierra of it all will sit with them for a long time. But like they have great things have happened to them outside of that canan't say that for Andy and West. It's really interesting. like even the way you feel about Kyle. the way that article said he's become the hero. Like you're really looking at Kyle through a different lens in a way that we never have before Now. My biggest issue with this episode, I'm going to give it a seven But my biggest issue. Well, my biggest issue was We had been It had been teased that this the first episode was going to address the West and Mandy of it all. What I expected was to see West and Mandy together having a conversation and then them rewinding it back I was highly disappointed that you screenshots of you know, their joint announcement, all the headlines. and then you go to it was a little almost even confusing. And then you go to Kyle and Mandy having this conversation. and I'm like, I don't really even care to hear this conversation You're not giving me anything. I know that Kyle cares for Amanda and I know that He wants to at least support her because they've spent ten years together. didnid't need that. What I wanted as much as it would have disgusted me was to see present day West and Amanda I wonder If West is on this at all? Well, we know that there's the preview We know from the preview in But in the preview, isn't it more so just like Wes was already a little bit in it because he hangs out with them Is there post E happening West in it I doubt it, but I don't know. Yeah. Maybe we'll get that end I was hoping to get that at the beginning at least. You know what I mean They're fresh off. And I think because being after like the last episode of Summer House, which was like draining It felt like I was like D with this show before it started. I watched it, but I was kind of like I was just like, okay. L the conversation you're talking about, I'm like I want the reunion. I don't want this. I don't want to see Kyle being nice to Amanda and in a better place and trying to help her through it. like and not answer one single question and the one question he asks, you but then you're totally fine ten seconds later. Yeah. It's not what I wanted. Yeah. And also the entire time I'm thinking like during their original conversation from the original filming When she's asking to go or not asking telling him that she's moving out for a month. I'm like, arere you with West during this? Because I found out today that But the Tay the conversation happens where she says she's moving out and she starts moving out. Like when she's packing up, she's moving out The next day West posted a dump of pictures Amanda's in one, they're cheersing. it's just them two And the and the I saw that caption is two soups. And people are saying it's in reference to an office episode where he's like, we're just Two soups, soulmates H Wow, people are really doing their digging And and I'm grateful for it. I did see that post. I never would have put the two soups or whatever that is together. I would never And even after seeing it, I'm like, is that a reach? I mean, I don't know why else you'd call yourself two soups. Like that's also weird. It's like they think that they're so smart. that's I know what I said last week and I still stand by that, but it's at times when I question it because I feel like they got off and playing in our faces and thinking nobody knew or no or no one would ever know And so I do believe that that was probably a thing. And you know, like maybe they were saying they were soulmates, but they were never going to act on it because it could hurt too many people. I don't know. I also saw that based on this timeline, he had just gone out with Mia as well. like right before all of this happened September. It was all around the same time Um, And then Kyle said, on Watch what happens live. You know, he's talking about like They made up and then they're making out at the open or whatever. He said, I don't know. it's just too much. It's just too much. Hopefully, please, please, please let the reunion answer all the timeline questions. Please let there be a whiteboard. Please let somebody draw it out. Like I am so tired. of trying to figure out the timeline, which is why I sett al on what I did last week. It was more for peace of mind than that's what I actually believe, if I'm being honest Um, I don't think that we're going to get a clear timeline because it seems like they're still lying Well, I'm going to believe whatever timeline that Sierra and Kyle are coming with. when they have that little group meeting that we saw and they're like, okay, we stick to this. That's where I am. I'm right there in the middle of that meeting. So that's my biggest complaint is because my expectations were high And that's why I'm giving it a seven The other reason that I'm being gracious with my number is because is the first season Yeah episode one. So we have to get to know the people So there's only so much that can happen. L we have to understand who Kenny is, who Gavin is Wh was it Yvonne, who like all these other people are. E even jam up. We have to understand like I thank God we saw her. I like to think me saying if we're not getting the baby, what are we doing is why we get to see Jimm's face And she's so cute. Yeah She's so cute Um Yeah, Yvonne, Nick Lexi, we already know Andrea, Gavin, Kenny, Whitney. we have to get to know these people and figure out how they're interconnected. And I did like the way they showed us how they are all interconnected. I liked that. I thought that was cool. Um It makes me feel like, all right, this is a real friend group. And even Kyle saying When he's talking to Kenny and he's like, Well, I didn't really gets, I'm just now getting to know Whitney, but she seems great. I like that. You don't know Whitney as well, but we're getting throwback pictures of you and Kenny and you've done friendriends giving together. So I'm like, this is a real friend group. That draws me in, not random people put together to create a show So that gives me hope as well Do I think that there's too many people? Yes. Yeah, when you started naming names, that was like a hoop And I didn't name' the memorable ones. I didn't even name Lindsay's, the dermatologist Whatever friend, I't even name. Not best friend. I know who the dermatologist is but I don't know her name Um There were some memorable people and there were some memorable conversations. So I think that is pretty good for our first episode Who was liable to as someone? Kenny's obviously memorable Um and Lindssey's best friend Avonne, is that her name Mhm She's memorable and a specific scene with her was pretty memorable Um as someone who has been married and gotten divorced. I'm so curious how you feel about this because I had feelings when Kyle and Amanda are talking and she decides I am moving out. And he's like, okay, if I accept, she's like, there's no accept. This is what I'm doing. And he's like, okay, if I agree no, there's no agreement, this is what I'm doing I don't need your permission, I don't need your approval. I don't need d d, whatever Obviously, I don't like Amanda. so like I watch that and have like a certain view of it. I understand her being like, you can't tell me what to do and like I'm doing what I want regardless My feeling though, is I'm like Yeah, no, but you are in a marriage. So usually you move forward, especially if you're not getting divorced together. So if this is what you need, it would be like if I was Kyle, I would be like, I actually do have a say. I could say, you can do that and we'll get divorced. Like you don't just get to do this and we stay together and try to work on it and date each other. Like you're speaking for me in what I want to do in this situation I feel like how she first of all, someone definitely told her what to say and how to say it because that's just not Amanda's personality from anything that we have seen at all So someone is in her ear saying, this is how you say it. and you have to say like, no, I'm not asking you for approval. Like this just I've never seen Amanda act like that ever. So I'm like, who's telling her? to talk like this I don't know But and we talked about this when we were recapping Summer House, but Quickness. I know we say we're not going to talk about timelines, but this is something we do know The quickness of the filming picks obviously picks up from the end of the summer to the start of the fall. so we're in September The quickness of the decision of I'm going to stay in a hotel for a couple of days and now moving out really contradicts that statement that she made when she said I didn't tell Sierra. I don't know why Sierra said that. Like That's not how I feel. I thought we were moving in a place. Like I was like, this woman is such a liar This is wom is Al also we have it on camera that told. You're such a liar. You didn't make this these decisions didn't come quickly. You knew you were you were moving towards this. you were planning this. So and the other thing was, I'm like, you're talking out of both sides of your neck right now. If you were in therapy, even if it is going bad, you were in couples therapy because a good therapist will say to you and I am speaking from experience, do you want to stay together or not Because then they know how to counsel you And if y'all are saying you want to stay together and you're working toward that, then you don't make a unilateral decision like that. Separation is something you talk about in therapy because that's what we did. Like it's something that you talk about and you try to decide together how it should go and what's best and whether you agree or you don't, you know, it is what it is with each couple, but the fact that you did that is also telling And you see Kyle kind of talk about it and watch what happens live. It's like he knew. what was happening, but he just wasn't ready to accept it yet. So he was just going to say yes to whatever Amanda wanted because he was hanging off for dear life. Like he just didn't want to get divorced no matter how it looked But the way that she went about it, every move that she was making was just inching towards divorce. She was making decisions as a single not a single person, but as an individual and not as a partnership, which totally contradicts. So you can't talk about how Kyle's being in therapy and how bad it is and how he doesn't get it. when you're also making moves as an individual and not together. So it's to your point about giving it a five. because' like just like the Amanda and the drag of it all and you know, like I liked the transition, but just the way it ended. It is tough. Even when we see in this episode, everybody's getting together to go to the garrett and meet up. and It's funny, only remember that name because I know some of these people. othertherwise I would not remember what the g was When we see Amanda and Kyle walking up, it's just such like a change of mood from what we're seeing happening at the bar to them And I knew Amanda wasn't going to go. like from the way she was dressed to the look on her face. I mean Yeah. I just was like They are miserable. And so I'm just and this is my first episode too. so I'm like, what does the rest of the season look like What is the She's living separately from you. She cannot stand to be around you. She literally looks sick when she's around you. Like where are we going from here? And just seeing that energy is a little bit of like downer But's a cloud over ye season Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm with you on that. Also I did laugh when She was like, I'm literally sweating. And he was like, you're wearing a raincoat in June And she's like, it's not a raincoat and starts crying. and then the camera like pans up and down What is that? A trench? It's either a trench or a rain. don't know I don't know which one it is, but you have a coat on He said right. K again, Kyle is funny and I just don't even think he realizes that he's funny. Yeah. His just like whole being is funny Um O things that happen. I mean at the top of the episode, even though we don't get the Mandy and West that I wanted in that conversation, they do talk about denies emphatically that she had an emotional relationship with West, even though Kyle was like, Well now I'm watching things back and It was just kind of all there. Of course she's like she's super hurt by the accusation Of course, likeike what else how else the man? How could you how could you ask me that? What do you mean You've just been lying to me for months Fucking my friend and roommate. Yeah. I think you're capable of that. Totally f. You get nothing You get nothing. no But he is giving her, he's actually giving her something. He's giving her better than that. He is caring about her mental state And he is refusing to abandon her despite popular opinion despite all that she did He is still putting concern for her above everything else. So he doesn't owe you the whole benefit of the doubt Girl, that is out the window, but he is being so kind and caring, even to this day because you hear him talk about it and I'll watch what happens live And You should be grateful for that should be grateful for that. U Yeah, I think that She also can't stand that Somehow he looks like the better partner because she has lived in a world where it was poor Amanda for so long and she loves for people to feel sorry for her. So when he asks if she was faithful and she's like, I can't believe you're asking me this. like you're the cheater, not me Right And because the script has flipped, she doesn't know like How to deal? Well I was going to say, well, who is whose personality is she going to latch on to now And it is Wes. we already see her doing it. She's dressing like him, She's doing his mannerisms, all of that But in This instance to your point She's kind of just got to stand in it Also letting me know, which is why I think it's so frustrating of exactly how she's going to be. in part one, two, and three. of this reunion It's constantly going to be, and we've seen it. We've seen it in some of the clips out. You guys Nobody on earth has ever done something like this before. And they're like in high school, girl Like no, and then you know, Sierra got it. Sierra and are like, no. So and then you know, you see the preview where she's like, Well, West was here for me And then Siarra was like, and I wasn't. So we already know what we're getting from Amanda And the reason I can't say anything we're getting from West is because he's been silent and sitting there like a doofist every preview we've seen. So we already know what's going to happen there. backack to back to the OG West that we met He talked about finding his voice, Nope gone I lost it. I hope though maybe the little that he spoke, they're just holding it and saving it for us, but it's not looking good. It's really we're really pretty much seeing what the whole setup is going to be here Um Other highlights, I mean, we see Danielle, we meet her boyfriend. Funny enough, it is Amanda who in the confessional is talks about how he has a whole wife which You know Glass house Cing stop Um whichich Daniel now has a baby by this man and this man is willingly on this television show. I'm like, if he had a wife, he don't anymore Yeah. That's what I'm saying. But I assume they're separated. and like, together and they're on the road to divorce. That would be my guess. She's projecting and also trying in that projection, deflecting from her own situation You know what I would ask and it's not too late. and I pray somebody from Bravo is listening It would do wonders for the audience if you would Date the conffessionals Just for us. Wouldn't that be amazing? Because the reason I said that is I'm thinking of how Amanda looks. And maybe we can judge it by the bangs I Think about how Amanda looks in that clip that we get where she says You know, Danielle's man has a whole wife If that said, like, March thirty first That would be great You know what I mean? I just wish because we know some of the be good to know someome of these things happen. know so we could yeah, we could measure her delusion. Yeah. That would be it would be nice. It would be nice. but maybe we just follow the bangs Um, Aon Yvon Mhm, Yvon Mhm Mh I like her. I think she's going be really good TV It's not shocking she's Lindsey's best friend Um, Her intro to the show was I am Yvon, I'm married. We're really happily married and I thought we were going to have kids right away. and then now that we're married, he seems to like not want to talk about it whenever I bring it up. One day I got mad and went to San Diego. three days and he didn't realize till the third day that I was gone I was like . We're in a really happy marriage Oh look, are you sure? G EV and their newly wedets Let's not stop. They've been together a year. sorry, I forgot about that. Yeah, they're newly wed. So that's even more fun I feel like Um, how likeike I asked my friend group, how long would it take for your husband to be like, wait, where is she? hours. I was going to say I went and got my nails done and it was supposed to be at one time and the lady was running late and I ended up coming home late and Seth was like, What's happening? Where are you? Hours, however, and he has my location How still was like, what is going on However D depends what state your marriage is in becausecause there was a time that I passed out I went out with girlriend.. I thought you I thought you meant like what state in the United States? They are because you said same Yeah. I was like, no bitch, if I passed out and didn't come home, that would be a huge problem. Fair, fair. No, I passed out W out with friends, fell asleep on the couch Woke up. it was the next day. I didn't even have a miss call. So you know? Was he not like, where were you? And we don't share lo we didn't share location So it's not like you could be like, o okay, she's over here at this person's house. But even still, I'd be like, are you okay? No, yeah, nothing So this is what I mean about it depends the state. And I remember thinking, huh Okay No no, no. let me do it, let me do it right. You're probably like thatt nice actually. No no wait wait Okay. Okay Gotta insert that into everyday life Got to. Yeah. U Okay, Lindsey and Danielle, what's new? They're in a bad place. blah, blah, blah, blah, blah I feel like I knew Danielle gave Carl a hand job I think we I feel like we knew that Yes, it was well discussed on the actual season And then Dany hosted on her story last night and said she did not give Carl a hand job And then Lindseay posted on her story, goo watch the season What is Lindsy's sign because man, she's a grudge holder She is a great. I't have much to know from Carl Did you get yanked or not Carl's like, Now why am I in this Y' yall didn't want tona give me a contract for in the city. L leave me alone That's what I would say. I would say put me on Sto though Carl should be on this show. It would make it even better. Yeah, but you know, probably friends with a lot of these people But it's supposed to be couples. It's supposed to be like the valley So, you know, maybe season two, we'll see how it works out Um Lexi and Andrea Maybe they'll give us more. It looks like in the previews, we see a little bit more, but like notothing there Not much. And then of course, as I'm going to do, you're going to see me do every recap when it comes to Whitney, Kenney and Gavin It's going to be the last thing I want to talk about And I don't want to suck. How good of friends are you with Whitney? I know you said that you're friend I am really good like I am good friends with Whitney. Like I think if she had bridesmaids, I probably wouldn't be one because she's so many good girlfriends. They have like that really close knit group of friends. but I'm pretty close with Whitney. Like I know what's going on in her in her life She knows what's going on in my life When I was going through the divorce Um She's the reason I learned how to ski, which is like, you know, I talk about it like I invented it. I she was so just like there for me and so many and we've seen, I mean, we've been friends for ten years now. So we've seen each other go through a lot different relationships Um, She was one of the first people I said out loud, like what was going on in my marriage? She when I Right after the divorce is when I went to Aspen with her and another group of girlfriends and she was just like, I have the hotel, get the flight, come on, let's go. I got to have all the perks that she had. It was just like, you don't need to be alone, You need to do your own thing. Like she was really there for me in so many ways. And you know, she's one of the first people. that I knew on the Bachelor and she and I roomed together the entire time until she left. Like we were we werere close We're close. She I assume must give more in real life. I Well, it's the first episode We' talking about the first episode, she didn't get much Well, yeah, like when Kenney's describing her and he's like, she's always positive, the way she looks at life, that's very true. She's one of The nicest people has one of the purest hearts. I remember I used to always say, I didn't think I would meet people like her on the Bachelor That's actually not who I thought I was going to be living in a house with Sos like she's genuinely a really, really good person and just really happy U, but I could see her being guarded and very aware. that she is on the show And what I hope is that time goes on, as time goes on, she loosens up a little bit because I think when we were on the bachelorors, she was like very much so about like, being perfect as well And I think as time goes on, especially like you know, her boyfriend's on the show, his friends on the show. She doesn't really have friends on the show. She's getting to know these girls. So I think She'll loosen up. Her boyfriend is loose is a goose. He's ready to go. He's very opinion on TV. He's very opinion inated.. You know it's so interesting? Id never would have thought he would have been He would have been on the show that he would do it And I'm surprised. notot only is he doing it, he's doing it he is doing it. He is ready for He is ready for the lights, baby tea Would you move across the country without a ring Yeah. Well, Would you move across the country without a ring if you've never been married before A It depends where you might not even want to get married again. you know? I feel like it's a little bit different post marriage. It depends what city I'm moving to And I I said this before, I know for a fact she wanted to be in New York becausecause me, her and another girl were talking about getting an apartment together that we were all gonna to split so we could be bicoastal And I thought, oh, wow, how Kismut is it that you actually Meet a guy that you fall in love with who lives in New York as well. This is like we were already tught We were already talking about moving to New York That so I guess because I know that I think that it's wild And it's New York. It's like she moved to like You know, and shout out to these listeners, but like D Moines I u I moved in Mou before we werearried. I I had a kid before we were married, so I ain't the one to judge, but, um, at that age, If my friend were doing it and I knew they really wanted to get married which I don't know, I don't know if this is her or not I think I'd be like You're going make it harder He definitely, I mean, she definitely wants to get married. Um And I think she says it on the show. like she wants herer parents are high school sweethearts. Her sister's marrying Two kid one kid one on the way She wants to be married, she wants to have kids I know she probably already thought you know I mean, I did too at that point at that age that she'd already have that. And Kenny's older Kenny's in his forties. so It's moving fast because of where they are in life. And as he's already also said He lost his mom And that happened when they first started dating. And I was around for all of this And so What I appreciate about when he was going through that time is that he did not want to confuse the emotion he was feeling with losing his mom and tie that into being in like getting with someone. You know, like I'm I'm holding on to you because I'm losing this. Like he wanted to be very clear about separating his feelings. That's something I always really thought was very emotionally mature. That's how I'm going to say it We're close Uh yeah That's it And then there's Gavin Nothing. you got nothing from G. You you a shaking your head. Avon and Kenny with the two standouts for episode one for me of the newbies. We got a lot of Amanda like her telling Avon to T turkey based through it. I know she thinks that's funny, I guess But I'm like, Are you capable of giving good advice Who said that Avon was like, I don't know. He keeps changing his mind about when he wants to like about having a baby. And like every time I bring it up, he changes the subject And Amanda was like, isn't sperm live for seventy two hours inside of you? Just turkey baster it. I need I was like this m What? I need her to put that raincoat back on and disappear That's what I needew That's what I need, right? That's what I need. I'm like, can y'all edit her out a little bit? That's what I need I will say this, Gavin, what I did not like is Kenny is your best friend Why are you talking about this like this? Why are you saying, o, these are the stages of grief I guess it's trying to be funny, but I'm like That's not say your friend You know, who lost his? It looks funny. is But but I would have been pissed. Yeah, like was Cany handled it well. Can he handle it well And I mean maybe laugh. That's the type of friendship they have. Everyone laugh. I think also he was trying to break up the tension a little bit with Lindseay because Lindseay came in hot Lindsay Car Hott and said Th theseese are just logical questions Lindsay came in hot and then Kitty was right back with I'm getting man hater vibes. Is that what he said? I'm getting man hater vibes or stuffhing like that about He was like I just don't have, what' she say? I don't have Annoying man like for annoying men or like that. So like we're getting the dynamics here. Like you're already like, okay. what's like who's going get along with who? So I' friend who's going rep I knew Kenny for five seconds and knew that him Lindsay, they might get along, but they're definitely going to bump pets. Tinney would never date alina Ky would never d a Lyn. Um That's it for in the city. I, you know, Kali gave it a five. I gave it a seven. I I think we both enjoyed it enough to be our interest is peaked And u You know, we'll see we'll see what happens. We'll definitely keep watching. Yeah. Yeah. and and I think like We should have some predictions of what we think is going to happen because there's so much, you know. that we, um There's so much that we know is coming. and the question is How is it going to play out? And then even us saying, oh, you can tell that these two aren't going to get along and maybe this might happen. We should do a little predictions. We'll see. Well Okay, if you're feeling worked up after all of that Same Then I took a sip of the new McDonald's drinks like the strawberry watermelon refresher or my personal favor mango pineapple. and I was like, okay Maybe everything isn't falling apart J the cast So whether you're debriefing after a full binge with something tropical and caffeinated or you need an emotional support soda with yummy cold foam, McDonald's has options. Try all the new drinks now at McDonald's Okay, real quick before we get out of here The valley it was on I don't Your thoughts. I only have one thought for that show right now What isn't? And Is that Danny suck It was bad last episode and this episode really Drove it on home But I am enjoying it more But he's notot in a good place Yeah. You took the words out of my mouth. I mean, what what more is there to say? I don't care if you put out a fucking statement. It's like Too late. And back out of watch what happens live. Yeah, W I need to see a change. You know, I need to see a change. but There were so many things, there were so many things, but you took the words out of. Danny Scks put that on a t shirt U All right, that is it for us here on morally corrupt. I hope you guys enjoyed it. Big week next week, bigig week every week, but Next week First off big week First, I'll be safe on your holiday weekend. And when you come back from your holiday We return to part one. of The summer House reunion. We will be tuned in. We will be ready with our opinions and We willll be ready to recap Until then guys Make sure you join us for our news show and then for recaps also next week. We're not missing anything. Not a thing We have responsibility, Callally. T the people Bye guys