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From Solving the ‘Summer House’ Timeline, Rihanna Weighs In on ‘RHOBH,’ and K. Michelle’s Relationship ThoughtsMay 26, 2026

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At least they don't do crystal meth in the bathroom all night long He will never emotionally fulfill you. ' I don't wantan to be part of this. Go sleep. G to sleep. Rose your legs to married man, Trash B. I'll tell you how I'm doing, not well bit. Hold on, check, meo. Welcome to Morally Corrupt. Im Rachel Lindseay. She is Chelsea Stark Jones. Let's get into it, but wait first we're fresh off the holiday. Chelsea, how was your long weekend I don't know if my shirt explains it. It's m todayod drained me. I have those as shirts. Oh, I got a Bravoc a couple of years ago. Ml Marla Boooth. Yeah. yeah, I was being sold alongside her mugshot t shirt. But yeah, this weekend drained me. It was a long weekend. it was also my husband's birthday Okay. So it's the first time for me in a while. It's been bus, club, another club, another club. Oh you are outside. In like a wholesome way. Yes What it have mean? you were out like ratches? Yeah. You were just out It a typical weekend. Yeah, we went to a barbecue festival in Long Beach, which was a lot of fun. We went out on Sunday. We went out yesterday, We went out to dinner sideide of the South Bay, we've been keeping our dinners like pretty local as date nights. We went to Venice at a nice dinner Two bars before dinner You know, really, really pushing boundaries here. So it was fun Good. I would for you, you know? an outside gathering every once in a while It's good for the sun. It's good as a song Yeah, yeah. How was your weekend? I know you had a fun family reunion. I really did have a fun family reunion. I need to post it U firstirst time we've done it in ten years And what I loved is we were in Homer, Louisiana, really outside of that. So it is like country, no signal My family owns a lot of land out there and a lot of people have built on the land. but what was cool was This family reunion represents my mom's side, but it's my grandfather and his siblings. So there's five of them So What we've never done before is every different sibling, so like on my grandfather's level, that family wore a different color t shirt. And so that was really cool too because so many people have had kids and have been married or have partners and the family's grown. So it was really cool to say like, oh, they're orange, that means this. They're yellow. that we were we were the green It was really fun. you know, we got family history, talked about the importance of everything Um Plenty of food, good food. I haven't had food like that in a long time. kids played games like there were waterersides and they were like board games. you did family trivia. Um Something also we've never done before is we did those lanterns that fill up and, you know fly off in remembrance of those that passed. and like that was really special. But like we're having this whole moment and they're playing these You know, sad songs when I see you again and everybody's reflecting And then the DJ Hard turn left starts playing little boosy set it off.. And I'm like Okaykay, some people are like emotional. like I was like staring up at the sky and like the little kids are around me talking, You want to talk shit, You want to run your mouth. And I was like Okay. We need ease into that. We have turned a corner and it was fun. Everybody was dancing, like the Yans outside U L why H' too. they were all, it was really, really fun. Brownie was there. He was in the mix too And u Yeah, it made up for like a crazy travel experience. And then the next day, my cousin We're really close. It was her birthday. so we Iustry forort. That's the biggest city And we are the biggest city next to Homer. And so we went out, we partied. I lost my wallet, which I haven't done in years Yeah. so that added to the stress of everything, flying without an ID. I've done it before Sadly It's a whole experience. I lose all my cards. So it's like today this morning, it's like getting a new ID, getting new cards All of that stuff, but you know, had a good time with family, saw family, positive things, made it back safely ready to tackle the week. It was really, it was really, really a good time. So Good. Yeah. well, it sounds like we've both had funun, but exhausting. Exhausting. Yes, yes. traraveling Holiday weekend with bad weather is Not what's up And the thing is is I probably would have left because it was my connecting flight in Dallas that had me in the airport for eight hours. I would have left and just left in the morning. but one, I think it still would have been raining and two, I didn't have an ID. So I would have had to go back outside. You have to pay forty five dollars now if you lose your ID because you don't have your real ID. You have to pay forty five dollars Th then fill out all the paperwork and all that stuff. So I was just like, why would I want to put myself through that again And to possibly be delayed again for eight hours because even though it wasn't necessarily bad in Dallas, it was bad surrounding everywhere else, so the planes couldn't come in up It was a mess, but whatever. hereeres saafely, back, ready to talk, Bravo which is always a pallte cleanser It really is It really is. What's getting me through is not just getting to do this podcast. it's that Part one is on tonight And I have a feeling. I saw Queens of Bravo Post. a meme in their response to I'm assuming watching Part one. And it was Dracaris, Do you watch do you watch Game of Thrones? Oh yeah, yeah yeah It was a dragon breathing fire and burning up the whole city. So I have a feeling as excited as I am I'm not going to be happy with what I see. So This summer, fandou is the best place to bet on goals. Including equalizers. Uhuh, Fllies? Yep, headters. Every goal is worth more on fandou. 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Enjoying activia twice a day for two weeks as part of a balanced diet and healthy lifestyle may reduce the frequency of minor digestive discomfort, which includes gas bloating, rumbling, and abdominal discomfort All right, we're back to debrief the hottest Bravo news Thankks to McDonald's, because The trauma guys is still overflowing, and the all new drinks at McDonald's are keeping us energized and refreshed through it all They just dropped six new specialty beverages from fruity refreshers with popping Boba or freeze dried fruit to crafted sodas like the spprite Berry Blast topped with cold foam I've been waiting to do this all day H These drinks are genuinely keeping us cool while everyone on our screens riyles us up Okay Chelsea, speaking of riiling up They have released these Q and A questions I guess that they were asking all the casts at Summerhouse before the reunion And I don't like what I'm hearing I don't like it because I don't agree with everything that's being said And Chelsea, frankly, I also don't like it because if this is giving me a preview to the energy that's going into the reunion It's not what I want. It's not what I want. Yeah, no, it definitely is. It's the energy. It's Amanda saying, what was she saying? She was nervous or something. and it's like, are the nerves Is the anxiety in the room with us? And they are so hyper fixated on this timeline I don't care if this overlapped with you and Kyle. That is the least of my concerns. I do not care about the timeline. Let's throw timeline out the window. timelines don't matter I want to know why you did this to your quote unquote best friend, woman that you would do anything for, Cut West off if she asked you to. That's what I want to know. Like I want to know where the remorse is with Sierra. I want to know why you felt so comfortable to move like this with her ex boyfriend. like why you saw that it would be okay after she was crying over your shoulder all summer long about this man and how happy she was to finally be reconnected with him. Like why you thought it would be okay to move this way I don't care about no timeelines your perview. Chelsea They need to put you in the moderating seat All of those are the questions we need answered priority Not this other stuff at the bottom. Now granted, I am one who hasn beent talked about the timeline and my curiosity wants to know. that is not the biggest issue. Like I do want the timeline in the sense that I really hope they compare social media behavior that we all feel like is a little fishy to when you guys started you know, acting on whatever it is that you're feeling. I want to know also when you started to feel something and when you started to act on it because that whole I broke my vowels My ex's girlfriend or whatever the songs and all that stuff was or best weekend ever. It's just like, you need to answer those things. so I do want that, but that is not the biggest issue I am with you A Okay, first off, I'll do West quickly. West Q and A, the a whole time I kept thinking This man doesn't have a podcast voice It's really hard and maybe it is better when he's silent Because the more he talks, the more I cannot stand the way he talks And I usually don't do personal attacks, but this one is warranted. It feels like he's and I can't remember if Cali said this or somebody said this I think. I don't think this is my original thought. so I just like want to make space for that. Like it sounds like he's swallowing burps when he talks there's something There's like And like as a gassy person, I feel like I'm allowed to say that I don't do that I don't do that I just It just, it's like spin it out Like stop so like, what are we doing? He talks like a kid bothers me. I like you are an on m personality and I just I just can we get through something without like stammering through it? Can we just can you just say without the burps and the swallowing and the gulping? it's like I'm not even a person who's triggered by sounds. You know some people can't hear people chewing and eating. Not I. That's all I kept. I even hear what he had to say I just was like M Yeah, you know, I don't I think I was even this repulsed by Thomas Sandavval during Skandaval. Like there's something about West that is really just getting under my skin and like making me like really angry. And same with Amanda. I will say, people are starting to feel bad for her. I'm bnderious how Oh yes. And like, you know, I'm trying to watch, you know, Summer House in the city as if I don't know, you know, this whole scand of West Mandval thing happened and people are trying to like, you know They feel for her with Kyle. And for me, it's like, I don't like you. L everything like yes, Kyle seemingly was a bad husband. But I'm also saying that you weren't that great of a wife either. I Like it's hard for me to have sympathy for her like knowing that choices that she was making and knowing that she very well, like she was going on quote unquote dates with her friend West when after therapy sessions with her husband, Kyle. So like I can't feel bad for her And with West, it's You've seen his little podcast stuff U I've been curious if he U talked about Smmer House before any of this happened. think he did like I think he did. none of us were listening if he did. Yeah. And I thought his purpose of startaring this podcast with a WNBA player was to kind of create a new audience for himself outside of the Bravo world. So I do find it interesting like he's taking this opportunity to probably get listeners and views in right now and capitalizing on it, which you know, a lot of people are capitalizing off of him and Amanda. should capitalize off himself too, I guess. But H and what The streets like to call Maga Barbie really just got under my skin on whatever episode just came out. They talked about the rumors of, you know Amanda and Wes wearing the same clothes, stuff like that, to which he debunked stuff. They did a whole segment basically of like What is true, what's not Duois style and whatnot. Yeah. But What really pissed me off And again, like I don't have energy to be angry with this reunion. so please don't make me angry. Was Maga Barbie kind of saying, you know And the teaser when Sierra was like, you did this to spite me or whatever. like laughing at Sierra like, yeah, that's not why I did this. And it's like again, coming with no remorse. And that's what's gonna make me mad this reunion is that they solely care about if Amanda cheated on Kyle or what the timeline was, what overlaps, or whatever and I don't see genuine remorse of like We really messed up I messed up a friendship. I made this girl look stupid. Like if I don't see that, I don't know how I can move on with these quote unquote characters throughout the next iteration of Summerhouse and in the city. Yeah I'm right there with you. Eact same energy. A couple of things. Guys, I want you to know You probably have never really heard Chelsea say, she doesn't like someone That means it's bad When Chelsea says, I don't like her It's bad 'cause Chelsea is our positive one, okay? She's morally corrupt ish ull bl sweet. An I don't know, like you said it and it like kept ringing in my ear. Chelsea I don't like her. I don't like her. I don't like. It's like all these bubbles pop up back. I'm like, I've never Chelsea say that before. Which means it's bad. I'm with you though. I'm with you and I think a lot of people are. And I think the reason I said I was you know, shocked when you you were saying people are starting to feel bad for Amanda, I know we'll eventually get there But it's too soon. It's too soon to go there. We have not seen the reunion. She hasn't done anything that we've seen so far to show any kind of remorse or we've yet to see a redeeming quality at this point And also you brought up in the City, we're seeing her behavior on In the City just in one episode and it's still not making her look good. Like everything feels very sneaky and just calculated and manipulative. And so it's too soon for us to be turning the tide on her. It will come. Right? People have very short attention spans. somethinghing else will happen We will move on and we should, right? Like we should move on. Now that doesn't mean have to be in a place where I'm like ready to see Amanda on the screen, but we will move on But not right now It's too soon. And the biggest thing that bothered me from Amanda's Q and A Okay, you're nervous, sure, you should be. You have a lot that you have to face up to was It's the vagueness of it all. and it lets me know that You Y friendship with Sierra, you've already written it off. And maybe you wr you wrote it off the day that you acted on your feelings with West, mayaybe it's the day that you had them. Maybe it's from the her response and the attention that she's getting post your scandal coming to light She never says Sierra's name And to your point, she's focused on the timeline. She's focused on the affair of it all, which I'm like, we know you guys were separated. We don't care about. You're not get the point is this friendship Right? We have watched for When it'sierra come like six years ago, you page and Sierra, build this friendship, this girl group where you've been supportive. It's been you against the house. You guys have had each other's back. You choose to spend quality time with each other, you know, hanging out in bed and at the house rather than partying it up. It's this beautiful friendship. likeike that's what's been your personality and your popularity on this show. So we're mad about the friendship, Amanda We don't care as much about the rest. There's priorities here. So the fact that she doesn't say Sierra and she's focused on other things lets me know everything. And then at the end of it, when she discusses that She's hoping to be able to move forward with some people J just like name them Who do you specifically want to move forward with? and why? And no, we probably couldn't get that whole conversation but you could say, hey, I'm really hoping to move forward with Sierra and Lindseay. and I'm hoping we can get to a cordial place. L we might not have the friendship that we had. like even West at least is like, you know, Kyle and I have talked and I see grasses green on the side. like it's important to me to have this with him. We know he doesn't give a fuck about Sierra So we're not even expecting that from him. But with Amanda two as we know she is somebody who takes on somebody else's name image and likeness pretty much, at least the image and likeness. We know that she latches on to people's personalities and develops them as her own. She's a shapeshifter An unsuccessful one, but she's a shapeshifter. I expect her to adopt West's mentality about Sierra too as well. And I think that that's what we're seeing. If she's trying to have a relationship with West and West does not want anything to do with Sierra Then why would Amanda, she already acted on with betrayal in what she said, whyy would Amanda w to pursue anything forward with Sierra? She's not as long as she's gonna be West because she's made it very clear that West is her priority above everything else. She' burned it all down in the name of West U West Wilson. Yeah, just just wild. There was Well yeah, it's the indifference. And I think one of the things that you said was you know, and why? why do these relationships matter to you? Is it because you still want to continue on on this platform? likeike what why? because you blew up most people think to be the closest friend that you had in this house. L why do you care to redeem and move forward with other people. Is it For what is the purpose does it serve you? because like't I don't see it anymore. Like I You know what's his face? West said he had a three hour conversation with Kyle. and it was filmed, apparently Why because you want to be on summer house again because like what is the end goal? Like I don't I don't trust these individuals. I don't them but it's, yeah, I'm I'm really angry. and like and I don't know how I want to see them. moving forward on the show whatsoever. Like I don't know if I want them in summer House. I genuinely don't want to see them together And I don't know if I want to see manandon in the city. like it's it's Yeah, because and honestly, it's also because who is Amanda without Kyle? She's not someone that I necessarily want to oot for like we've only known her with Kyle. and I don't want to know her again with another man. like and that's kind of sucks. if you look if you think about it for her, your only connection and relevance in this bravo verse is your connection to a man. Like we were ready to root for you as your independent single self going out being in these streets, doing whatever you wanted to do, but you had to choose the one guy that like I yeah, I'm looking forward to this reunion tonight But I just already know I'm gonna be pretty angry. Yeah, yeah. no, you're right. I'm with you. I don't agree as we talk about it. I like it. I like it. I do. mean Let mes if I can poke the bear a little bit more. We're right. who is Amanda by herself, you know, without her friendship group, without her relationship. Like we have West. We don't need West to point out You know? Yeah. I don't need like Westiana or whatever nickname we're going to give her at this point. L I don't need it. I don't need it Like she's like even the photos that come out, like you're literally dressing like him. Like you're not even doing your own thing. I don't know I don't know. I don't know. last thing I'll say about this too is You mentioned the podcast that he has with that girl. and I will say this I'm trying to refrain from giving an opinion because a lot of people had an opinion about the sneak peek of Sierra saying You did West is I hope you know that West is with you to spite me I feel like people are split on that comment I'm hoping there's more context to it Because as it stands donon't think that West is with Amanda to spite Sierra I don't. I don't think that that and maybe that's not what she meant If you want to be like he doesn't even really like you like he's using you or he's using he thought, you know, like he could climb a He could be a social climber with it. I even saw somebody's conspiracy theory that they think that he was gunning to be the top dog in the house and his whole mission was was to paint Kyle as a bad guy. so he could be like boss hog in the house. Yeah. So I mean, maybe there's some of that, but I don't think that he's As it stands, again, I'm hoping that there's more context in that clip that we get in part one, two or three, but I don't think that That's not it. He's not with her to spite At least I don't think so. Obviously, they would know more. And I think that set her up for people to say Wait a minute because like let's just be honest The fact that you're already telling me that people are already Feeling sorry for Amanda based on what? and You know, like I get if you're like, don't pile on, fine fair. I get it. You're right. Bes. I don't She's giving you nothing And so We're going we're starting to infantalelize her And you're infantelizing her because You know why? And the fact that Sierra is already getting like, she does one thing that people don't agree with, like even myself and it's like, o, she's going too far. She's I didn't like this version of Sierra. likeike I know other this road leads So I just hope that She has a really strong Sierra, has a really strong reunion She's able to express herself, get it all out, so she can just leave it all on the table Um Because people are going to have different opinions when this is They are going to go in one way and come out with a different opinion Yeah, I hope so. I think, you know That comment does I don't necessarily think he did it to spite her. I think it was either to use her or I don't even want to say get back at her, but I will say We don't know what happened between eptember and February between West and Sierra of this year. We know that they were at the Super Bowl together. they seem pretty flirty. likeike maybe she did say we can't be close or do whatever. Maybe there's something there to where she felt. she could say that. But yeah, I'm looking forward to the reunion. Sierra looked beautiful. I forget in Can where she was And she had great remarks about, you know, I'm able to now see who's going to be with me in this next chapter of life and who's not. We'll see. Do you think she comes back to summer House I think at best she comes back like Paige did her last season where you know, Pai because she was doing the tour and she was so tired and you could tell she was checked out and obviously her relationship with Craig U So I think that get she won't be there every weekend Okay That's I'd like to see her first. Yeah. I would like to see her But yes, I don't I and I don't know if I want to see her in a house with West and Amanda. Like I don't know if I want to put her in that situation to have to maneuver and share a space with them for a weekend. like yeah, you know. Yeah, it's the If she has to share a house sum her house with all of them, if it's like everybody's coming back in the same way I think It won't be a good look for her because I can see if she ignores them, I can see the audience being like She's still let it go and moved on. so much has happened for her and On the other end, if she's still affected by it, I would hate for her to be emotionally affected by it as well. you know? so They just gotta go They got to go put them on in the city if you if they have to be somewhere, which I don't think that they should either for that. but We'll say. We'll say Okay, we always spend a long time on summer House, but It's happappy reunion Day. It's happy reunion Day U A couple of other things. Rihanna, she is really making the rounds and I love it. I really do love it because I feel like I agree with her her takes. L if I could have a sit down with her, I feel like we would be on the same page when it comes to our thoughts about this Bravo world. But in her latest display of affection towards these Bravo celebrities, she DMed Amanda. Can you just imagine getting a DM from me on n My phone would be on the floor, I would be crying. I don't know if like, ye, God I have chills thinking about it and I have no reason to think she would ever beM me. So yeah, I never know I'm gonna tell you though, I wouldn't tell anybody I wouldn't tell anybody for sure would not screenshot it I for sure wouldn't screenshot it and post it like Amanda did I'm if priv if she privately wants to communicate with me then I am priv I'm going to keep that private. Now, she has jumped into the comments of higher learning and said something. Well, that's public. so I'm going to say something. but I would never Do it this way, I would just be like That was between us That was was. So you're you're thinking long game because then you'rere you're building a relationship based off of trust. I would like to know she could come to you with whatever. Yeah. Okaykay, that's smart I would like to think that. But Rihanna DMs Amanza and she says, no, no, no, no quitting. You're gonna to have your redemption. I promise you. we need more of you Amanda. posted this and she captioned it, Wait, if Rihanna says, I have to do a second season, then I have to do a second season. If the queen says, she has question mark exclamation points to which I say I agree Yeah I agree. I don't even know if she needs that deep of a redemption. I thought that the reunion was really great for her. I thought she came off very liable Like her or not, she's great for this show And I thoroughly enjoyed Amanda. I found myself looking forward to what is Amanda going to do next episode? Yeah Yeah, I think Amanda started off a little rocky is she's a new face. She's a new housewife. So like we look at her a little skeptically. she's a little cookie. And then she kind of turned a corner naturally. I don't even know what it was. I don't know if we saw less of her. I dont I don't know, but I think eventually we all to like kind of rally around her. I think too with, you know, the bows of it, the like when too many people start kind of like piling on about small issues, you kind of start to side with that person. Yeah, the only reason I think Amanda doesn't come back is because I think she views it as something that hurts her business um because they question it so much. but I think she should come back. There's I I to Rhanna's point, you will have your redemption arc I think the audience is behind you and just give us one more. You never know what could happen. Why would you not? We know there's this wedding coming up. We know that you're writing this book and like the notes that you got from the cast, you were very condescending to your husband at times and it was a little bit emasculating. And even if he's okay with it, that kind of stuff can build up to where it turns into resentment. So take those notes Ply it in a better way. and then I just I just I think my favorite thing about her is as a person who has strong reactions to things. I just loved that she was so unphazed. By anything that happened It was like, okay, somebody would apologize and she'd be like C. And then she'd say I'm so sorry. I apologize. I'm I just wish to have a fraction. of some of that I and if I was one of the people who was anti her And that's how she responded, It would make me lose it art of it I can't be that calm and cool collected in moments where I am emotionally attached to something. So I just it's very entertaining and impressive. If I'm honest. Yeah. it's impressive. Yeah, that was honestly one of the things about her was she could rle these ladies up by just being herself But that party f is Is that a two at all times and that would get the women to attend. L I agree. That's a gift I think Amanda should make merch. This is a really lost opportunity I think that she should make merch with no face, just this expression And I think they would go mood like like ammand the mood or something like that. And maybe in the back on the back there's like something positive or whatever. But I absolutely think just imagine those at Bravo Con. No words just just Yeah. I would be wearing it On a podcast record like ye O on a little pocket. just a little pocket. Yeah. Yeah just Mondays, Mondays, you know, whatever, however she wants to do it. Monday U alsoso, Rihanna said, let everybody know, Hey, just so just because I DM Amanda doesn't mean I'm team Amanda. She let everybody know posting on Bose's. I mean, I don't know if she really meant this or not, this is how I interpreted it. But she then went to Bose's most recent post and said, chehecked all my mailboxes, stillill can't find the wedding inv invitation wild. H And to that, I would say Get on it, boos Yeah. And if it's and here's the thing, if it is an adult only wedding, make the exception All the kids need to be there in the entire family. We want ASAP, We want Rihanna, We want all three children Not only make the invitation, invite them to be ring bears and that exception. They could be ring bear flower girl, y. M Th those kids could cry all they wanted to if they wanted to at my wedding. They could yell out, scream. Come on. I don't know if I'm gonna go that far, but I will yeah, so not the invite Say the date Letter know, get on the d on that. U That's funny though. I love that she sent that. If nothing else you get a wedding gift. If nothing else.s I mean, that's why you send out most invitations to be honest. I mean, I'd sent out a few for some gifts. Oh Well. I don't know who they are. They don't know who they are exactly. The last thing on Beverly Hills, there' been rumors circulating around about who's gonna to be on the next season The rumors were that Kyle, Erica Sutton, Bose, and Rachel were going to be back full time. And then Crystal Minkkoff allegedly was might be put back in the mix Laurie Laughlin and Emma Greed are allegedly in talks to join. And the other rumor was that Dorit is being put on pause, all of that. Alex Baskin posted on social media that that is not true. Deeply lets me know it's not true. becausecause he I feel like he doesn't always there's always rumors out there And he makes sure to let this know that's not Let us know this isn't sure I will say of this u Rumor. I think you know, Crystal's close with Cynthia Bailey U I think Crystal should take a note from Cynthia and just maybe come back in a friend of capacity because Cynthia is thriving as a friend of in Atlanta I think that could serve her. Emma Greade would be kind of cool on Housewives. She is wealthy. She is controversial based off of her parenting style that she put in her book. She's beautiful I don't know how much she would necessarily share, but She would be an interesting housewife. I don't really care to see Lurie Laughlin. That feels random too And Dorit being on pause just doesn't make any sense. She's firing on all cylinders I would take Laurie Laughlin over Emma Greed any day Really Yeah Imigree I feel like she's going to be too curated Like and and I just actually don't even believe that rumor at all. I just do not think that she would be doing that at the moment. I don't see the benefit of it for her. Lauri Laughlin separated from her husband. I don't know if that divorce is final. She's We know the scandal which you know is coming up The scandal' going to come up of her paying for her children's way into higher education She has, we know the one daughter is an influencer and has was dating Jacob Alordi. And then I think she's been linked to somebody else. so she's out there. She's a socialite I'm not sure about the other child, but I feel like there's a lot there and Laori's like a long time U, because you know, like, Emma's not from here. Llaurie's like been here for such a long time. So I feel like she has a lot of ties and is connected within it, like on charities and so like I see her around at events And despite the skandal, I feel like she's really well liked I would really be interested intos what life is like for her. I know it's housewives and you want them to be married and Emma is, but I kind of want to see What's going down You know, maybe it's me in my divorce era, but like I want to see that side of it You swayed me, you swayed me, you swayed me at scandal. I completely how could I forget? What would be fun is like trying to figure out how they would bring that up as a, you know Dorit showing up in a fight on t shirt to barbecue, Do they invite her to a USC tellailgate? or do they have like a girl's Day at the lake where they're kayaking and they're rowing, like that would be so funny to poke Laorie Laughlin in that way. Yeahah, you've completely flipped me I'll take off Becky any day. Yeah. I see it as I think it's Leil Bose's daught is getting ready to go to college. And so quite naturally she ask forgetting and maybe about the scandals. She asked Lauri or maybe she does remember. Like you have young girls, like what was the process like for them Do you have a recruiting coach for college? And then it you can recommend? Is she being funny? or does she genuinely not know And then it just becomes this whole thing That's like the oyster It's like the oyster. 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There's crafted drinks made with your favorites and topped with cold foam, like the sprite Berry blast with yummy blue raspberry syrup, and refreshers made with fruit flavors and little extras like Boba or freeze dried fruit A little bit of caffeine to get you through the day. Sounds like exactly what I need. Try all the new drinks now at McDonald's Butaa Chelsea, I'm really interesteding in your thoughts on this as a married woman Kay Michelle Kay Michelle's making a big splash. And I mean we shouldn't call it a splash because it's bigger than that withith her being on Real Housewives of Atlanta, which I wouldn't expect anything less. I know you didn't watch loveve and hip hop Atlanta, but I did I think it's funny that when Kay Michell first came on, to Atlanta, she was quiet and she was talking about how hard it was for her on the other show and she was really happy and excited to make friends And, you know, she's married now. she lives back and forth between Nashville. She's working on a new album. She just seems to be Kichell two point zero and really working from from a place of healing What episode are we on? That might have lasted for two. That might have lasted for two A zebra doesn't change its stripes. especially when you put yourself in similar situations, right And so like this isn't and so I say this as in All that she said very well may be true That is outside of putting yourself in a situation where emotions are heightened, there's filming. You don't know these women as well. There's a lack of trust Like It's going to come out It's going to come out. Yeah. Oh yeah Yeah. So she's making the rounds, you know, she's talking about she's on watch what happppens live. this She was on Cleub Chae podcast. She's talking about, you know, like her place right now in Atlanta and her relationship with the women and some of the latest drama and why she's responding the same way. because I thought it was really interesting that Andy's like, why did you bring up The rumor and you told us you sow production, you didn't want to bring it up. And she's like, well, I knew they were going to anyway. So we got to still see that flush out because It feels like paranoia in the m Math isn't mathhing. Y for me with that. Yeahah On Club Se, which was a very interesting interview, she's talalks about her marriage, which we've seen her talk about before. I believe she said already that. She They do three sus. they're somewat somewhat of an open marriage, or maybe I read or saw that somewhere else So she's talking to Shannon Sharp And she's saying that she would be okay with her husband cheating on her, but I don't think that she's classifying it as cheating because they seem to have an open relationship. The cheating part for her would be somethingomething past physical emotional, taking care of, providing. That's where she draws the line. She doesn't mind that her husband scratches whatever sexual itch she may have She does not mind watching him be with other women You know, And like listen, like we're in a day and age where people I think people have always been Um done whatever they wanted to in their marriages. I just think now we're in a place in twenty twenty six where people are more comfortable talking about it and people are being more honest about the type of marriages, relationships that they have and it's more acceptable. Like it's like, o, well like whatever you need to define your relationship for it to be successful I think we are rejecting some of the traditional norms that have been placed on us, whether it be societal or religious and are now saying I want to build the type of relationship that works for me and my partner. Chelsea thoughts We watched it at the same time. I was like Mouth open y over like hands over my eyes. L I was so flustered by her commentary. You on the other hand was cute Whool was a cucumber. As if she was just reading the phone book to you. I can't No, this makes me so uncomfortable She kept saying poke, you could poke my husband. I was Shannon Sharp. Shannon was flabbergasted by this entire exchange. That is me. She was also on Watch What happens talking about the size of her husband's member and like I think we as housewife fans know You don't want to hype up your man so much to like open up the DMs. Andy himself is like, I'm going schedule myself a dentist appointment in Atlanta so I can get a little peek. That is not a way in which I would like to conduct my marriage, but to each his own, whatever. I do understand the The line, I guess she draws with the like don't pay anyone's bills Be if you're just gonna be out in these streets poking whoever you want to poke, po that. Poke and go But don't pay no bills, don't buy little, you know, mini Kell's, don't do any any of that because then that Yes, that then creates a deeper connection to this relationship that should be very casual. However That is not. That is not for me. I was nothing. I was no, I was I was I was flabbergasted. It's not for me either. I just know so many people who have nont traditional relationships that what she said wasn't far like wasn't wild for me to hear. It's not for me. I think I'm too jealous I'm not a jealous person, but I can't imagine bringing another person in seexually Well, definitely not emotionally or whatever, but we're talking sexually because that's what she does. I think that she the way she can say pooke and go, I think she's void of any of the emotional feeling attached to sex when so she can do that. I'm not there. So for me, I think If I was watching or something, I would be like, well, you don't hold me like that or touch me that likeike I would be taking notes and comparison and then being like, you got to sit down. And let me tell you like I just I just that's what I mean when I say jealous. Like I just like don't think that's not my kink, you know, everybody has their things Everybody has their things. That's not my turn on. But for a lot of people, it is like a lot of people like to watch Other people have sex or watch their partners have sex like, that's a real, that's more popular King but It is I I can't remember what the saying is, but you know, it's like Women seex is more emotional, not all women, but like it's more of an emotional thing. whereereas for men, it really is more of like a physical thing. So that's why I understand if it ventures into emotion or taking care of, now You know, if you're K Michelle, like that's a dangerous territory because it's muddying the waters. And I also think that it also gets dangerous for the woman on the other side, because we're talking about Cell situation, the woman might start getting feelings. The woman might start getting attached. I remember I was having a conversation with a friend And they have an open relationship and her guy does his thing, whatever. I can't remember if she If he tells her, I think he does tell her. I don't know if she knows who it is. But when the other woman started to be like, well, why aren't you spending my birthday with me or You know, why do you have to go home? That's when he was like, Oh, this has crossed the line. I have to cut you off And so I was like, oh, they have a really healthy boundu Yes L they are really on the same page. We start bringing other people, you start bringing other attudes and emotions. I would be as scared of that that that woman, I've watched too many snaps Her mean girls dateline, twenty, whatever you want to call it to say like Well, if I know he's great, how do I know this other woman isn't going to fantasize something wonderful with him as well? And I am the person that's stopping her from achieving that Yeah, like crazy Yeah. now, it's it's not for me, but I do I guess appreciate the transparency and yeah, a lot of I would, you know, venture to say a lot of celebrities and public figures have arrangements like this. Girl regular people a lot of regular people s swing, you know I feel like we see a lot of people and we're like, o, I shiip them, I shiip them. likeike this is relationship goals. And it's like, well, would you think so if you really knew? I don't know They might. Don't knock til you try it J. I'm never trying it, so will I willll stop knocking it. Last thing in our headline news, Erica Jane I mean, it just feels like it's been an endless amount of T like courts hearings Potential trials, lawsuits, money, money, money, money, money. And it seems like it's all coming to an end for her She settled her twenty five million dollars bankruptcy lawsuit justust days before it was going to go to trial, which is great for her because I can only imagine what those legal expenses are The attorney of the plaintiff in the lawsuit shared in aort court transcript Based on multiple conversations with counsel, we have agreed to a settlement, and we're asking the court to allow us to dismiss without prejudice the settlement amount was not disclosed, but it seems like Things are coming to an end for Erica Jane. And so now, you know, she's probably gonna to be crawling herself out of a hole, but at least she knows Hopefully, no more legal No more core, none of that. And she can just kind of start to rebuild now Yeah Yeah, I don't know. I said my When everything first happened, you know, I was skeptical. I did think that she had, you know a greater knowledge as to what Tom was doing, but as time has passed and I've kind've softened to her these last couple of seasons. I just am ready for her to have a new chapter and she seems like she has a, you know great new boyfriend that she's very happy with. Her son likes him. L I like this version of Erica that we're seeing on Housewives So I hope we get to see more of it and that we don't have to talk about orrphans and widows anymore. Uh yeah No same. I actually thought we had been done until this this last, but this is a bankruptcy lawsuit. So this is this is a little different. I will say that They ask the court to allow them to dismiss it without prejudice. That's the plaintiff in this case, not Erica. It means that They could refile this again if they wanted to. It's not permanently done, it's temporarily done So It's not necessarily a final verdict on the case and it doesn't prevent them from like taking for legal action in the future if they wanted to So hopefully this is the end. I'm curious as to why They did it without prejudice instead of with prejudice. Usually you're afraid that things might not work out the way that You know you're planning them to. So they just like want to leave the option to make sure that they're The plaintiff, in this case is taken care of and full. so hopefully She gets it. So would that maybe mean that they're worried she might not have the money to pay out the settlement potentially? Maybe or they're still working out. It seems like they've come to an agreement, but maybe I don't know if like it's finalized. They're clearly leaving it the option to take more legal action if they need to. So maybe it's payment, maybe it's Maybe there's some other terms to it that they feel like maybe won't be complied with. So I don't know, but I think we all want the same thing. We want this to be over for her. We want the people who were harmed to be made whole, and we want her to be able to move on from this at this point Okay. Ive just I feel like that was a lot That was heavy And if you're feeling worked up after all of that Same Chelsea and I are right there with you. But when we took a sip of our new McDonald's drinks like the mango pineapple, which you've seen me sipping this whole time and strawberry watermelon refreshers, It's right behind me, you can see it We were like, okay I think everything isn't going to be terrible. it's going to work out the way that it should. So whether you're debriefing after a deep dive with something tropical and caffeinated, or you need an emotional support soda with yummy cold foam, McDonald's has Options. tryry all the new drinks now at McDonald's All right, real quick Chelsea, before we get out of here realal quick in honor of us prettyretty much not being over Kyle Calling Carl avagicil. I don't know how I feel about that wait This is another I did not see this. Vagicil social. They did a social media response. Wait Bell just put this in They um, Photoshopped a version of their bottle with it saying, I'm being a vagisil and it's sitting on a platter outside of what it looks like is the summer house. my God. I love when these companies l into it. Yeah, it's the best. Well, they needed to because obviously Kyle is using something that's for women to be negative And so that which I see. Kyle This go ahead. Vaga sells for women But do you think he realized what he was say? Like do you think he realized He was saying Vagisil as in like the the It doesn't make sense. It doesn't really make sense Like, I don't know. Are you telling him that he's not balanced? Are you telling him that like You know what I mean? that he's itchy or, you know, like there's an odor? I don't know All I know is is he's using something for women to make the insult, which not okay. but it was a moment. It was a moment because I think we all were like H Never heard that one before. And so It made us say here I'm morally corrupt. let's go over some of our other favorite insults from Bravo history because Even though they may be iconic in our world, sometimes they don't make sense. But they're still so wild, it's like, okay What are some of your favorite insults? Prostitution hor engaged nineteen times That's Hall of Fame, iconic. I will Close your legs to married men trash box. I mean. I think that I was seeing and this is just me being in my like mom era It connects Summer should be fun. Amanda, not fun M I was on always good. Amanda and the clapping And I was on TikTok and someone did a first birthday theme Summer should be one And I'm like That is such a cute name I for a one year to liave For one year old, that's very cute. Thats be one. I don't think I could sell my husband on it because he does not watch Bravo, but she doesn't need a n Smmer Just tellll love. Just tellll her Mve. is having a hot girl summer at one. We're getting your hot girl summer. Yeah August' birthday. Summer should be one Amanda Not one. Mave is one. I don't know, something like that Yeah, you could be like, yeah Mave is one Yeah. It's I love it. I love it. I think it's really creative. Amanda N fun is one of my favorites. It doesn't even go that. It's not even like that deep. It's just the way he delivered it It was so childlike S are supposed to be fun. Like he was literally having a fit. He was throwing a tipper tantrum and he's like, Amanda. not fun. It's like in my mind, that's how West talks. regularly One of the new ones, which I'd never heard this term before and I don't know if it's like some East Coast Rhode Island thing, but when Rosie's going at it with Kelsey, she calls her a slam pig. And I let's do a quick Google search. I was just about to do that. Rosie did say on watch what happens Live it is a Rhode Island term Okay. Thats Why the word slam? I mean, they're saying it's a vulgar offensive slang term used to describe a promiscuous woman, typically one who is sought out solely for casual or transactional sexual encounters often associated with a pump and dump. D dynamic I guess she's a pig and she's getting slammed Is the term slamp pig? Wow I don't know if I'm gonna use that out in of my vocabulary, but I don't know no, it's a harsh, it's a very hars harsh one I did, I did say, huh That was one of those head scratchers. I mean, one of mine is always going to be Her bob is not like your bob. Hers is tight That's always going to be one of my favorite things. I say it all Anyime I use the word tight, I always do this motion. You do? Yes, her bob is not like yours, Hers is tight It's tight. A white refrigerator. is always going be saying not a wide refrigerator Um Dwight's famous. Uh honey, did you hear Somebody had a fashion show with no fashions. Like that's all these are d That going to be how dreadful The ones that you use in your everyday life, Yeah those have got to be the ty. Yeah. they're not even they're just like funny. They're reeds, I guess. These are like actual insults This isn't my plate, you fucking bitch, Shannon the middle of a red question The quiet woman of all names. The quuiet woman, Yes. Yeah Yeah T many T many good ones. keepeep them coming. All right, you guys, that is it for us here are morally corrupt We got to take some time We gotta relax. We gott to do what we need to do. I don't know if it's a walk. I don't know if it's meditation. I don't know if it's something, some stretching Do what you need to do to prepare for tonight becausecause this is what we know It will be good We will be entertained but we will be upset. I'll leave you with that Cars J. That's me. Flow and fire That's we bl on fire. Burn it all down. Summer house will never be the same. It'll never be the same Who's the dragon to you, Chelsea? Who's the dragon? It's Amanda Amanda burned it down. I mean, West too' Amanda's breathing the fire and West is riding her. Yeah, I guess I was more so thinking like, to me This says who I am. Daenerius was the hero, so Dragon would be like a. 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