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OndDeck does not lend in North Dakota all loans and amounts subject to lender approval Trump's preference for a fully carpeted bathroom had posed a challenge for the resident staff during his first term portion nearest the shower would often be soaked through The staff was never quite sure why, but they worried about mold growing underneath. I've never in my life encountered carpeting in the bathroom. but this apparently a is a real Donald Trump must have? Yes, it was important to him to have a fully carpeted bathroom and the staff resident staff solution to the the damp problem or the mold potential mold problem was to essentially a small piece of carpet and overlay it as if it was a bath mat on top of the other carpet in front of the shower. and then substitute and rotate that carpeting What a sentence, Jonathan Lamere, quote, It was important to him to have a fully carpeted bathroom. Just one of the new details in Maggie Habrerman in Jonathan Swann's new book Talking to our colleague, Chris Hayes last night, regime change. I've never heard of a carpeted bathroom. I'm trying to conjure maybe in the seventies some people would put like a shaggy bath mat in there or something. That's what the bath mat's for. If you want to step out of the shower, that can be washed. that can be thrown away eventually and replaced with a new one. but full carpeting And by the way, some implications not just for the shower as well Yeah, I'm honestly afraid to ask why President Trump insists upon a fully carpeted bathroom because you're right, that carpet wouldn't just be around the shower, but other among other appliances, other facilities in the bathroom. And one wonders how clean that would be. let's just put it out there. I mean, of all the renovations that President Trump is doing to DC and the White House This may be his most controversial insisting on carpets of the bathroom. let's have a citizens group bring a lawsuit against this too Yeah, the reflecting pool just took a back seat, maybe or the trump arch just took a back seat. We need a folesome investigation into car And James Comer says he nothing wrong with this. att least Trump is being transparent about his kneeepeted about He's putting it out there. Let's move on with the host of pololitics Nation MS now, the Reverend Al Sharpon, sorry to bring you into this, Rev. He's the president of the National Action Network, also managing editor at the Bulwark, Sam Stein and US national editor columnist at the Financial Times, Ed Lse Richard Has still with us as well. So Richard, we are two days away from the fourourth of July and the official two hundred fiftieth birthday of the United States of America. All the celebrations that will come with it across the country. I'm curious just given your long undernderstanding an experience with history, across several presidents about Where you feel we are right now on this two hundred fiftieth birthday. The great news is we made it. Democracy is tough We're the world's oldest democracy. So that's an impressive accomplishment. I think the founders would have been pleasantly surprised if they had been told two hundred and fifty years later, we'd be celebrating, but the honest news is our democracy is not in great shape Coming back in we remember the president talking about four hundred one Ks, Willy. Well, if there were a measure of American democracy, it would have suffered a significant correction over over recent years. Checks and balances are not working in any way like James Madison set out in the Federalist papers You have the abuse of the pardon power We've been talking about the corruption and the lack of accountability of people in office. We have a president going to war without the involvement of the American people or the Congress about rigged elections here and it's a long list So I think again the lesson we all ought to take from this is not to be sanguine. So yeah, we can celebrate the two hundred fiftieth. But it's got to be a really sober celebration. We've got to think, what do we do to make sure we still have a democry to celebrate, not just in another two hundred and fifty years How about in five years or ten years? what do we have to do to strengthen the resilience Because we've learned that democracy is not guaranteed that It so much depends upon the character of the people in government whether it's the president or those in Congress, and I would just say we have a shortage of that these days. So American democracy is vulnerable. So I actually think we need to have a serious conversation about what do we need to do to strengthen it Yeah, and the Congress has surrendered its role effectively in that in the government right now. It's been a choice. And Ed adding to this, you've got a new piece from the Financial Times just out today in which you say the celebrations for America two hundred fifty are more muted than they should be as a reflection of today's political climate. Inn it Ed writes this, quote, at two hundred fifty, the U. S. system has outlasted most empires. The founders might have been astonished to learn it has survived this long At just one thousand three hundred and twenty words, the Declaration ranks as one of the great statements in history Many on America's left believe it was a hypocritical charter. drawn up by slave owners. Many on the right see it as a revelation of God's providence, but surveys show the typical American has a better grasp of the nation's founding ideals and hypocrisies Most deserve a better celebration. than they will be getting. and lets you elaborate a little bit on that Yeah, well, I mean, I agree with everything Rich has just said. I mean, I looked in some detail. I'd consulted with people who are old enough. about the bicentennial celebrations in nineteen seventy six. And most people I know, over the age of fifty, children then or even even older than that, have very positive, vivid memories of the federal celebrations that occurs then under Gerald's Ford. The accidental president, Gerald Ford One of the reasons was that it wasn't hijacked by Gerald Ford. He he was not an ego to put it mildly. He was kind of modesty personified And so you know, people have recollections of those tall ships in New York Harbor and the various Independence haall in Philadelphia. They're very appropriate but kind of joyful celebrations that Mark that two hundredths. anniversary and of course it was also at a time when the system had shown itself to be working because this is two years after Richard Nixon had resigned rather than face impeachment for being a crook, essentially Today is very, very different. We have a president who's making it all about him We obviously are not an optimal time for saying the system of checks and balances on executive power is working U And therefore, I think we're getting we're getting a really dampn squid to put it mildly of federal celebrations. No doubt though that you know the way America is There will be plenty of very traditional, very joyful parties at the sort of community level than in the states around the country. But the national celebrations I don't think Americans know what they're celebrating with this president Yeah, I was in a few small towns the last couple of days along the east coast. and it's clear that they are prime to celebrate this weekend. And there was something very heartening encouraging about that, but you're right, Ed is very right. The federal celebrations are muted. The state fair that Trump has put together on the mall is sparsely attended and that's an insult to the phrase sparsely attended Nobody there U the heat doesn't help And he is talking about delivering a july fourth speech that could be an hour plus that I'm sure he will make all about himself. And that is the problem with these celebrations is he's made them so political and so personal. And Rv, we also should be clear eyed here about the United States as we hit two hundred and fifty years. There is a lot to celebrate, but's we have to be honest about our past. There's a lot to be to learn from, a lot to be ashamed of. know And part of the American story is how we've learned from those mistakes. We're seeing from this administration, they want to whitewash that. They don't want to dwell on on any of that And I think this is a moment to both to celebrate, no doubt, but also to take stock. yes, to take stock of all we've accomplished, but all the work that still needs to be done I think you can celebrate and take stock at the same time because you can take You can celebrate the fact that some of the things that we should be most ashamed of, we were able to repair and some we're still working on And some we're trying to stop from going backwards into some of the things that we should have been ashamed of like unequal treatment of people So for African Americans, we look at it different differently in seventeen seventy six, we were enslained But we in the two hundred fifty years went all the way to not only winning our freedom from slavery and getting the right to vote We put sixty blacks today in the Congress and in the US Senate. And we've had a black president who was reelected and a black female vice president Women couldn't vote on land. Look at where they've come How do we handle immigrants? I think the real story of this weekend is to see that despite some of the dark times, some Americans saw light and brought us toward that light Others are trying now to bring that light down. So I don't I'm not against celebration. I'm going to New Orleans the Essence Music festival, which is probably the biggest gathering of blacks in the country. But over those days, we talk about what's wrong, what's right They have the biggest entertainment from Patty L Beell to Cotie B. Michelle Obama's coming So you talk about these things in from the viewpoint of who you are and what America's meant and for you And in two hundred and fifty years, this is a great story for all of us, even though in seventeen seventy six, it was not a great story for all of us. It's a story of persistence, dedication, and we must be committed to keep that going. And there'll certainly be celebrations, but there won't be this unifying moment that we saw in nineteen seventy six. Sam Stein as this, we do head into this this weekend want to get your thoughts on the United States at two hundred fifty Well the United States is like like a fully carpeted bathroom. Let's use that a knowledge. Yeah. I like the founder think U I actually am struck by what Revere Al said because It's complicated, right? I think we tend to look at our history and glorify it, especially oniversities like two hundred and fifty. But obviously we've had dark moments in our history as well. And you look at debates that we're currently having right now, for instance, on immigration, for example You know, we've had a really checkered history on immigration in this country. We've had a jinguistic history, a nivist history. We've not always been a melting pot that we'd like to assume we've been But I do think it's fair to say that the modern political system we are in under the Trump administration is harsher on immigrants than anything in recent memory. You look at voting rights, for instance We've had an unbelievably checkered past on that, as the Reverend just said But we made progress, but I think the problem obviously is that we're going backwards right now And you look at gerrymandering, and you look at all across the ais, the progress that it seems like we had made and the chapters that we seem to have closed are now being reopened or the progress is being Um retrenched. And so yeah, it creates this kind of duality as you're celebrating this stuff Obviously everyone's extremely patriotic. They want this to be a patriotic celebration. They want these events to go off and be joyous events. I mean, you just look at the World Cup and how we've rallied around the team, right? I mean, there is clearly this pent up energy to be Cheering for America in this moment But it's hard to do it when you see some of the stuff that's happening. And I don't think it's wrong to be conflicted about it. I think that is sort of almost uniquely American in a way to feel conflicted about the progress and the steps backwards that we are taking. So yeah, I feel conflicted You don't have to celebrate this administration to still celebrate the progress. We've made over two hundred and fifty years and a lot of people will be doing that this weekend. President Trump is back at the White House this morning after visiting North Dakota yesterday for the dedication of the Theodore Roosevelt Pidential Library. He toured some of the ninety six thousand square foot facility, which is supposed to be extraordinary. Then he spoke For an hour, praising the twenty sixth president times comparing himself to Roosevelt The President also talked about recent decisions from the Supreme Court, including Monday's ruling In the slaughter case, that gives the presresident authority to remove members of twenty four independent agencies Slaughter It was called the slaughter case. And a lot of people didn't think it would ever be one And we want it Tw days ago in the Supreme Court, it gives power to the president at a time where the president really needes power. It a great decision It was the most important and we want some oothers to. It was the most important decision of all of them, I think We'll take care of the birthright citizenship because that was That was not meant for rich people from other countries that was meant for Actually, it was meant for the babies of slaves If you look at it It was a month after the Civil War ended that it went through. that's because it was meant for the babies of slaves. It wasn't meant for Rich people from China It was that came over and Gulf streams it was bed for the babies of slaves. I believe No, I know, they got it wrong, but that's okay because they gave us something that nobody thought president's speaking in front of a group of rough riders, honoring Teddy Roosevelt yesterday a fact checking what the presresident's saying there. The fourteenth Amendment, he's talking about for birthright citizenship. was passed by Congress a year after the Civil War ended. It then was ratified two years later. So Rev, this was viewed as a victory for many people who believe in the Constitution, for people who believe in the idea of birthright citizenship, the Supreme Court decision, the president, though, kind of the last few days has been blowing it off saying, well, it's too bad. But the fight's not over. We're going to take this to Congress, where obviously it is a huge uphill climb to get the votes to overturn birthright citizenship And it should be. I think that the birthright citizenship is something that we as a country have advocated behind and benefited from. And let's not forget this same president that is talking about how he wants to block people from coming in the country and block their citizenship is the same one that brought in white Africanas from South Africa bringing them into the country, saying that he was bringing them away from genocide against whites in South Africa That no one, including the American media can find any proof or evidence of that. So he's being very selective on who should come in the country, who should be citizens in the country. And it's apparent to everybody that listens to this president. likeike he stood in front of those guys yesterday saying, how many has a four hundred one K plan? And I didn't see a lot of the guys standing behind him raise their hand I mean, he is totally out of touch with what is going on in American life and he makes it clear every time he makes an appearance. Yeah, and birthright citizenship ensrin of the Constitution is As we approach the two hundred fiftieth anniversary of this country. Ed is is fundamentally American and the Supreme Court upheld that this week and the president is floating some sort of legislative or executive answer to this. I'm not sure what that would be, but it was a which should be noted, a rare rebuke from this Supreme Court which has normally been so compliant for President Trump A rarebuque, but not a unanimous one, which you would expect given the wording of the fourourteenth Amendment, being pretty clear and pretty unambiguous. And I know there were a couple of sort of doubts that were quite reasonable about birth tourism being included and other democracies go through this debate It should be emphasized what America has, which is birthright citizenship, is something other democracies over time have copied. because it is an intuitively reasonable thing for an open society. to adopt. and so this isn't some unique Affliction. I mean, I've been watching like like you have, Jonathan the extraordinary meltdown on the MAGA right and by the Federalist society and by various MAGA anchors and podcasters over this ruling and accusing people like Amy Cy Barret and Justice John Roberts of pretty much being triters to the American ideal It is remarkable to me as a very pro American outsideer inside have been here for twenty years. It is remarkable to me to see just how much The the mood and the view on the right has shifted to what JD Vance calls the heritage American idea of America And this is the competing idea of America as we celebrate two hundred and fifty years. This is the competing sort of nativist vision of America, which I think is repudiated through all the original Constitution, the Declaration of Independence, and all the amendments passed since then, and the very record of this country It is extraordinary how strong how strong that nativist, that heritage American Voice is U nowadays and flies in the face of the views of, say, Ronald Reagan on immigration or more recently even George W. Bush. Before we let you go ahead, we've been celebrating Team USA's big win last night to advance its The round of sixteen. How about England against the Democratic Republic of Congo? Two words for you, Ed. Harry Kaine Yeah, Harry Kaine, I mean, he's the one superstar on the England team and the rest of them you know, not always u not always optimal, but he he saved England but that DRC, the Hongo Goalkeeper You know, he's he's a special kind of golkeie because it should have really been three one, four one But congratulations to Team USA You seem to cohere much better as a unit I don't think you're cursed by the super stardom sort of English Premier League curs that the England team is cursed by You cohere is a very impressive unit that plays as a unit. and so I was delighted. I was delighted to see that result and played the last thirty minutes down a man. Fun to have USA and England both down to the round of sixteen. Ed Lse to the Financial Times, Ed, thanks as always. We' will be reading your piece online now. Reverend Al Sharpton, thank you as well. A very happy fourourth of July to you, sir. We'll see you soon. Still ahead on morning Joe. We'll dig into the new report from House Democrats accusing President Trump of turning the nation's birthday celebration into a politicized disaster Meanwhile, the wounded Warrior Project is marking America's two hundred fiftieth anniversary with a one thousand mile ride across the country. We will have a look cycling event honoring U. S. service meembers when Morning Joe comes right back Three days from now, we will celebrate the two hundred fiftieth anniversary of the Signing of the Declaration of Independence. what? A document that was Now this week We look back on two hundred and fifty years of glorious freedom and we took So much time and so much effort. and by the way On july fourth It's going to be approximately one hundred and seven degrees out. And I'm gonna go and I'm gonna make a really long speech J just to show that I can do anything. MS Now presents the chart topping original podcast, The Best People with Nicole Wallace. This week, Princeton University professor and author doctor Eddie Glw. I'm always coming from the moral angle. The choices we make, the events of the day, the horrors that we have to report, ourur response to it all has everything to do with what kind of people we are and who we aspire to be. The best people with Nicole Wallace. Listen now, for early access and free listening and bonus content, subscribe to MS Now Premium on Apple Podcasts The Wounded Warrior Project is marking America's two hundred fiftieth anniversary one mile at a time, showcasing the grit and resilience of U. S. service members With a cycling event covering one thousand miles across ten states over sixteen days. MS now reporter Nick McCool has more Setting off from Jacksonville, Florida, these veterans are on a mission to honor America. They're embarking on a journey of about a thousand miles up the east coast. four groups, about two hundred and fifty miles each two hundred and fifty years of the USA. It was organized by the Wounded Warrior Project, a nonprofit serving America's post nine hundred eleven military and veterans But it's not just America they're riding for I was just beyond grateful and so happy to be alive and to be able to pay homage to all those that had served before us their service and sacrifice evident from the roadside some pedaling with prosthetics, or on adapted bikes Groups would often ride more than sixty miles a day At times through difficult weather and steep terrain, a test of metal for wararriors of steel.. There were a couple times during the ride that I thought, Oh man, can I do this? My legs were really given out, I think, opening up to my brothers and sisters It really helped me. But it was an opportunity too to see more of the land they love I never been to Philadelphia. I never been to Baltimore. It was nice. Got to see the Liberty Bll, got to run up the rock while run. I walked up the rocker steps. A hero's welcome at the Washington Commander Stadium and visits to monuments of the liberty they had defended with their lives before their final approach into New York City. We are at Firehouse ten here in downtown Manhattan, just steps away, ground zero. Now many of the veterans that the Wounded Warrior Project serves were inspired to enlist because of what happened here on a September morning twenty five years ago. And I want to show you one of the powerful reasons why on the wall of this firehouse just over here is a memorial more than three hundred firefighters who lost their lives on that day, a solemn reminder of their sacrifice And so a journey of a thousand miles ended here final group rolling into the big apple with cheering crowds to greet them. culminating coming here has just been a great reminder of why I did what I did and why all of us are here. Former Air Force Captain Melissa Rowdy McMahon was haunted by her time as a nurse serving in Afghanistan. When she says one of the wounded Warrior Project's TV ads saved her life. It literally said not all wounds are visible. I'm here right now in front of you because I called and I picked up that phone and I said I need help I can't do this alone anymore Marine veteran Zach Tidwell's personal struggles caught up to him after he left the corps. He tried to take his own life But while the bullet blinded him He survived There are hordes and hordes of people out there who want to help you. They just have to know that you need help If you look at the image of Wounded Warrior Project Sometimes we need to be carried. And it takes a lot to say I need help Sometimes that takes more courage than putting on that flag Nick McCool, MS now. What a ride that is. MS now is Nick McCool reporting there the wounded Warrior Project, an extraordinary organization who gives money not just through themselves but to other Veterans groups, including Operation Men, if you want to help support The wounded Warrior Project, you can go online to the woundedwarriorproject. org Coming up, a new report from Democrats on the House Natural Resources Committee calling out President Trump For putting himself at the center of the nation's two hundred fiftieth anniversary, the ranking member of that committee Congressman Jared Huffman takes us through some new findings next on morning Joe Do you have any reservations about how much President Trump has kind of put himself at the center of the two hundred fifty celebration? Absolutely not. I ain't got a problem with it. He's our president. I'm disgusted with these Democrat states that don't come up here. He's the president of the United States. No, that's silly. Do you have any reservations about how much he's made himself a centeriece of the celebration? Absolutely not. This guy's mister America. Look, he's patriotic, he's brought back prayer,'s brought back I've being proud of America. I salute that all day long. Biden never did it. And There was a bipartisan coalition, America two hundred fifty. It's been replaced in terms of a lot of the public events here with Freedom two hundred fifty, which is a Trump backed organization. Tw many reservations about the president kind of making himself so much the center point of the two hundred fifty celebration. I like freedom and like America. it's our two hundred fiftieth year anniversary. I don't have any qualms about it. I mean, America two hundred fifty was traded by Congress. Freedom two hundred fifty organization. I mean, I don't know that anybody cares As long as we're celebrating two hundred fiftieth. They pushed us by basically a congressionally created organization. Was that the right move by the Trump team? If We weren't getting the results we needed, it was And I don't know if you want to rely on Congress for a whole lot right now. Do have any reservations about how much Trump has made himself kind of the centerpiece of the two hundred fifty anniversary No comment. I mean, let's talk about substantive things Boy that line, you don't want to rely on Congress for a whole lot right now True words never spoken. Some Republicans speaking with the MS now Capitol Hill team brushing off concerns President Trump is making the big party for America all about himself. But a new report from some Democrats on the House Natural Resources Committee is raising alarm over the nation's two hundred fiftieth anniversary festivities accusing President Trump of hijacking the celebration to serve himself going so far as to allege corruption and possible fraud. The report is titled Fom Vanity to Insanity how the White House cheated the American People out of their two hundred fiftieth birthday. Joining us now, the ranking member of that panel. Democratic congressman Jared Huffman of California. Congressman, thanks for being with us this morning. People are going to celebrate across the country America's birthday, regardless, but clearly the federal celebrations Donald Trump has become the centerpiece of What are your concerns and what did you find in this new report? and also just for people watching the connection to your committee and all of this Yeah, a lot of this is in the jurisdiction of the Natural Resources Committee. and so our oversight and investigation team has undertaken a year long investigation that really I think should upset every American because our country only turns two hundred and fifty years old once. We were on track for a broadly unifying national celebration with serious folks like the Smithsonian leading the programming Congress set up this commission to be insulated from politics, to really be above politics And it was going to be a lot like what many of us experienced in nineteen seventy six, something that we could all feel good about. are government leading. Inead, Donald Trump hijacked, It made it all about himself and his vanity projects, his political agenda, and all of these endless schemes to enrich himself and his cronies Congressman, it's Sam Stein here. The report that you put out today really looks at whether money was misdirected and if donors were misinformed about where their money was going assuming they were giving to the congressionally mandated committee and then it turns out they were giving to the Trump related commommittee. This is sort of a reoccurring pattern. I know you've been focused on the triumphal arch that he's trying to build out in Virginia Um But we just don't know the source of the money, how he's spending the money, where the money's going and who it's going to in a lot of these cases. Can you speak in broad strokes about what you know as someone who does have jurisdiction over this and what you would like to find out Yeah, this report pulls back the veil on how they hid a lot of this from public scrutiny And they started out with an attempt to take over that bipartisan commission that Congress created. When that failed, they went to planlan B, which is this elaborate mechanation where they set up a shadow company, Freedom two hundred fifty LLC. they housed it within a beloved charity, the National Park Foundation over at the Department of Interior, and they did it in a way that all of their fundraising and other activities would be insulated from public view. And so they started shaking down and misleading donors, soliciting foreign contributions. They siphoned off the resources of the bipartisan C commommission that Congress authorized And they did it all in this veil of secrecy through Freedom two hundred fifty And Congressman, I was struck also by the report suuggesting that Freedom two hundred fifty in the report's words is a blueprint not a one time abuse Give us your concerns about how this this sort of structure could be used you know, in the remaining two plus years of the presresident's term I think that's one of the important takeaways. It's too late to keep them from tarnishing the national celebration here But it's not too late to expose this and stop them from using it as a playbook. So What was really corrupted and exploited here is this beloved charity, the National Parks Foundation that for fifty years has been raising money for our national parks through the machinations that we outline in this report They were able to access the donors to mislead those donors. There's evidence that they may have even solicited donations intended for the bipartisan Commission and then redirected those to using bank information for Freedom two hundred fifty Um There's a lot of questions here that still need to be answered. And they have resisted us and obstructed us at every step in this investigation, but we're going to keep chasing it Congressman, this report notwithstanding and this is a deep oversight here. Just your thoughts on the fourth of July this weekend and the two hundred fiftieth anniversary of this great country of ours We should all feel proud to be Americans. We should all celebrate the fourth of July, obviously But I think it's a tragedy that our opportunity to have our government and serious people like the Smithsonian lead a national celebration in Washington, DC and in other parts of the country that that was hijacked that it was repurposed for Donald Trump's personal agenda That is something we ought to every American ought to be very, very upset about this fourth of July. We ought to make sure this never happens again Ranking member of the House Natural Resources Committee, Democratic Congressman Jared Huffman of California, Congressman Thankks for your time this morning, and happy fourth of July to you Thanks YouTube Still ahead, we are moments away from the release of a new jobs report, The host of money power politics, Stephanie Rule, join us in studio to break down the numbers. Morning Joeess coming right back Hey everyone, it's Chrises. This week on my podcast, whyy is is happening how Andrew Tate turned misogyny into a business empire. So we know that you know in the weeks and months leading up to the election, you a number of prominent Trump supporters and figures within MAGA, Donald Trump j Jr, Elon Musk, Tva Carlson, and others had kind of publicly defended Andrew Tate, described the case against him as a conspiracy as a kind of hit job and just generally supported him. So I think it was pretty clear to the Romanians that if Trump got in, they were not going to get a favorable reception from US. officials on the subject of this case against the Taype Brothers. Thatts this week on why is this happening? search for why is this happening? We'rever listening right now and follow ly picture of Philadelphia to be One of the centerpiece cities of the America two hundred fifty celebrations coming up two days from now. Also a city whose basketball team just got a lot lot better thanks to a blockbuster trade that sends in former finals NVP T filly The Celtics reportedly have agreed to send Jayen Brown to Philadelphia in exchange for seventy sixers wingman Paul George and a handful of future draft picks. It ends Brown's decade long stay in Boston and teams the five time all star with Joellan Bade Tyese Maxie in Philly and some other great young players there. comes after the Celtics added free agent center Mitchell Robinson. We love you, Mitch, but Boston really fresh off his NBA title win with the New York Kicks. ESPN reports Robinsonons has agreed to a three year deal worth more than forty seven million dollars to play in Boston. But John Lere, let's go back to the Jal and Brown trade Brad Stehvens is a really smart guy in Boston, pererhaps deserves the benefit of the doubt. but I cannot make any sense of this other than they were desperate to get rid of Jayalen Brown and that he was not going to come back anyway. They sliced it And they didn't get YanS a couple of weeks ago and instead they get an aging Paul George and give up a guy who was a legitimate MVP candidate this year I am agghast, baffled and furious and other but otherwise and I speak, I think for most almost all Celtics fans, this makes No sense and So first, yes, they clearly were concerned that when they offered Jayalen Brown in a yonest deal and didn't get yonest that that bridge was burned. But Brown, by all reporting, was not asking out of Boston. Yes, some weird social media comments. But he seemed to want to still be there. He and Tatum just want a championship together. a couple of years ago I would have kept Brown, period. But if you're going to move him, you had to get better than this. And I guess the market just wasn't there. But this is Jalen Brown who carried the Celtics last year when Tatum was out. He's a multiime all star, As you say, a finals MVP, a key part of a championship team And they get back. Paul George, who's thirty seven had a PED suspension last year, you know, isn't any good anymore. It has a gigantic contract and mediocre draft pics. I simply baffled by the move, I can only hope another trade is coming that would make this make sense because right now it doesn't Yeah, this is the equivalent of looking at a fine bathroom and saying, I want it carpeted I'm going to make that meteda to bring it at su. I'm going to make the No, I don't get closed. I'm getting closer. I don't get this trade at all, especially because earlier in the day, other teams were making trades for like Walter Cassler and getting much bigger hauls than the Celtic Scott The irony here or the weird thing is or they didn't have to do anything They could have just sat on it. He's under contract Uh As Jonathan said, it was, I mean, obviously there's been tumultuous off season Weird tensions happening between him and Tayan potentially But like he is under contract. You didn't have to trade him. And so this is perplexing. The only real way to sort of spin it is if you look at some metrics, the Sx actually did perform better when he wasn't on the court, but Tatum was Maybe there's like a little bit of viewing theory potential here Boy, man, you did not get much back and Paul George

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