Adult Spaces and Final Thoughts

I loved getting a new album back in my day . The records just felt, the albums felt more cohesive, more of a journey. I feel like a lot of records, if I'm streaming them on Spotify now seem like a collection of songs versus one experience that you're supposed to have . You know what I mean? Yeah, of course different producers. Here's my dance song. Wait, sex music is really popular right now. So here's my sexy song. And then I'm going to close it out with my sad girl alternative song. These are I'm trying to hit every demographic. I'm trying to hit every part of TikTok, every type of edit that I could get my song on. So let's just let's just throw it all fucking out there, cast a really wide net and see like what I can catch with it. So at least maybe one of my songs can reach whatever. And that's fine if you really like your what you're putting out, but I feel like it is just not so cohesive. I love a cohesive experience. It's all different artwork and it's all subjective . And I do I do like and enjoy and respect an artist who can come out with an album like you're talking about because I think that does show a skill and a talent to be able to cast that net so wide and be able to do all these different yeah approaches to, you know, their songs or genres or one I appreciated was playing in the car but I know I don't know if you're a big fan of Miley but, that's something beautiful album I was playing in the very beginning . I really liked that one. I thought it was at first I didn't care for it. I didn't really pay much attention to it, but I really watched that video together One of the music videos. She was dancing on stage and like on the lot or something. Yeah, yeah, for I forget what it's walk of fame. Yeah, but far, I really like the concept. It's a fun one. But I mean another like look at Slater. Slater's one that I'm also really enjoying. This concept worst girl in America. I am because she's always had a really unique like her one before that was Starfucker, which was just like old Hollywood, but into like a modern electronic sex vibe. I really enjoyed it. I thought it was fucking Australas with sex too. I love sex. You love sex. Yeah, well, I think it's more important than ever. Let's talk about sex. That should be our theme song . I think we should know that song. Or text. I don't know if you're watching tears . Talk about sex, maybe you talk about you. Who sings it? Who does sing it ? I don't know . Seriously? Talk about good things . Don't look at me like that. There's plenty of songs I've played, even old school songs of your generation that you generation . He's talking about songs from the fifties and forties Talking about those ones. Below the belt . Well, who's it? Tell me who sings it. Talk Meppa. I wouldn't have guessed that. Let's play a game of unpopular opinion . I know we're gonna get more hate comments. We're gonna get more hate comments. You know what, let them hit on us. Unpopular opinion, number one, go. You started this game. You have to tell me I have to the host of this g.ames But I have to have time to think. The reason I thought of it , you said that we can't talk about 'cause I'm gonna get canceled. So you don't want me to go first . But you're going to say it either way whether you're first or second Lilitina. Lilitino? Yeah, Lily Tina. What makes you think of Lilitino ? I didn't know who they were at first . And then you told me who they were and then I realized who they were and then I said what I thought about them. And you said, We can't talk about this. We're going to cancel this in ice. Thin ice. Thin ice. But I wonder how many people would agree with me, especially people in the trans community because I don't feel like they are a very good representation of the trans community. I know trans people . Nothing like that. Sound like that annoying guy. I know trans people. I know black people. I have a black friend . Yeah , no. No, I'm fucking no I get it because honestly when you say that to me, my first thought was like if I was going to say an unpopular opinion it would be and I say it all the time two things can be true at once two things can be true. But how does that apply to Lilitinao Puse Lily Tino because I can say I think that this person is not kind. It does not treat people not kindly. He's not kind or that's why I'm gonna get that's why you're getting fucking cancelled. Because they're not cut because they're still respecting people, right? Like if we're expected to she's not if we're respecting her through being an asshole to other people, then I think the other respect would come around where it's if you do accidentally misgender someone, that doesn't mean that you automatically are transphobic . If it doesn't automatically mean that if you don't like a specific trans person that you the whole of your person is a transphobic. You know? I think it just goes the same way with that comment when somebody is like, you, I can't believe you would talk shit about Chaparone or you don't like Chaparone song. Okay, come on gays, we love misogyny and it's like shut the fuck up. Like shut the fuck up. You are the most insufferable fucking kind of person on the planet. Like, when can you not have an opinion? And when has your brain been so rotted from social media that you're just fucking chronically online where you're like, oh my God, I'm gonna fucking argue with every person online that has differing opinion because we are all human and we are all gonna have a different opinion. Just chill out. Like that's it. Like what I should be doing right now, just like just calm down. No, you should not chill out. Reflect a little bit on yourself and before you come, I mean I'll, just look , like p comleasement because I like engage ment and that helps us at the end of the day. But you don't know me. And if you really fucking care do you could also go back and like watch the episode and see like, you know, context . But we live in a world of headlines. Yeah . I would say this to Lilitino, you're being unkind to people that may never have encountered a trans person before. You could be their first experience , first image , first everything and represent what a trans person is. You could be that for that person who is calling you sir more than you prefer , more than you're comfortable with , you could be their first impression . But unfortunately their first impression of a trans person is going to be in their eyes a dude that's dressed as a woman who is causing a scene in a restaurant and intentionally setting up a camera and waiting for that moment to blast them on the internet and I feel like that's not a very good approach to bringing people to your side . And think of it that way for sure. It's like if you could be somebody's very first encounter with somebody and the power and influence you have in that situation, but she loses all of her power because of her approach. And also just being assured in who you are as a human and like it all goes back to like you are who you are and who you say you are. So if somebody else , you know , you have to just say fuck it. Like ignore it. Like that's these people are working their jobs, probably fucking minimum wage working their ass off, just trying to do the best to give you what they can. They're just speaking, you know, obviously everyone would love to be catered to. We would all love it, like I would for sure. But at the end of the day, you just you need to have know who you are, have the strength to know who you are because it obviously takes a lot of strength and courage to be a trans person and be out and present yourself in the world. So just carry yourself that way because there's a certain strength and energy and power behind it. And I think you give that power away when you immediately become offended and lash out on somebody like that and then go the extra mile to really like where's your supervisor? Where's your manager like? And then try to blast somebody online and try to like maybe cost their job or something like that. When in the end of the day, it's just we're all humans. Like we are all human beings. We're all trying to figure it out together, and that's why I will say it until I die. Two things can be true at one time. We live in a world where you are branded the second that you have one opinion or you say one thing that might be cont roversial, maybe you say one thing that hurts somebody's feelings, whatever, but we're all human. Like we all forget that we all would love the forgiveness if we make mistakes because God knows I've made mistakes. I've said plenty of terrible things, especially as a kid. Like know you, you hear things from your parents, you hear things, you say shit. You hear people's feelings. Like we're humans. So it's why can't we all give each other that chance in that respect? And that's, you know, it's a big thing because cancel culture is kind of where this all starts, right? And it's kind of makes you wonder like is cancel culture dying off ? Is the end of cancel culture? Are people kind of waking up to the fact that like we've never were meant to be so chronically online where we weren't supposed to have all of this information available at our fingertips at any moment and we weren't supposed to make a full judgement on somebody based on the first twenty or thirty seconds of them. It's so much more nuanced than that. People go so much deeper than a few seconds of what you see online. And sure you and I are going to play into it. We have a podcast. We're going to post some things and be like, ha ha, you know, this is a stupid take or controversial opinion, but at the end of the day, it's like you go into the podcast, we talk deeper about it. Even outside of the podcast, we feel deeper , we think deeper about it. And we all are. We all have those . And also, more than that , people can change. I may be an asshole sometimes and I may make comments, but I'm willing to recognize it and hear other people out . People change and people evolve. People evolve and growing. There's a difference there, but I also think that when you evolve , you're evolving because you're moving forward and you're more of an open free spirit and helps them evolve. So instead of yelling at somebody because they misgender you or instead of yelling at somebody because they may not understand that you're gay and you have a partner or a boyfriend or whatever instead of being angry, maybe help that a person evolve by representing it positively and just being like, thank you for your service. Like I really appreciate your help. And just let you know and if they make if they make a mistake and they mess up, like just know it's not usually not personal. You know it's personal when somebody approaches you on the street and calls you a fagot or something like that. And even then, that's on them. It's not on you. And even now, we're going to get people coming on this. Like we're gonna get people being like, who the fuck are these two white gay guys to be talking about trans people. That's the thing. It's a conversation and I think we should all be invited to all of these conversations . All trans people can speak for themselves, you know ? And like not all trans people are in a place that they can feel outspoken. Oh yeah, that's it for sure. Excuse me . And so if we can talk about it and start a conversation and get comments, have a back and forth. I don't know. Everything is about conversation . Yeah, right. How does anything get done How are we going to evolve on the topic if we're not talking about it? Yeah, if we're not inviting it in and might be saying something that pissed people off, but honestly, I don't really give a fuck because I don't think I've said anything that's offensive. No, you haven't. But people are, like you said, are still going to people be mad. People will be mad and let 'em be mad. Yeah. But anger is what fuels it all. Like not to even get into like such a serious topic, but it is. It's like down to politics. Like what makes you think like our view of trans people, our view of gay people, our view of immigrants, like all of it's so polarizeded because you have mia also trying to survive and conquer people. So again, these conversations are important to just have, like, have with your friends , have with your family , even if they get uncomfortable, like the only way that you're going to move forward is by approaching it. But approaching people with kindness. I think if I could take any point to the whole conversation today is if you approach people with kindness , chances are so so often they'll meet you 'll meet you in the middle. One example for me was like being at a gay club in San Jose and these guys came in there and total like duck dynasty like fucking you know just real redneck and and they were in there and they were at first very kind of rude . They went in there and treated it like a zoo. They were like, Oh, look at all the animals. That's kind of how they were joking about it. Like we wanted to see what all this shit's about. We wanted to sleep when they were drunk, they just got off a wedding right in their assholes. They probably wanted their dick sucked. They probably did. And my friends were fucking mean , mean to them. And I was just like, you know, I'm just gonna strike up conversation. Just be really nice, be really nice. And the guy was drunk as hell, talked to me for like an hour. And by the end of it, he was like, this is really fun. Is it really good? And he was like listening to Donal Summer. He was like, this is fucking this is cool. You guys are cool. Yeah, I got a room down at the Rabbi. I was going hang out. And I'm like, No, we're good. We're good, but no. But it's true. It's like, again, I may not stand for any shit that guy or believes in at all , but it's like if showing face, you know I would be polite and honestly maybe moving forward . His view of gay people probably won't change. They'll probably still be a fucking asshole still vote the way he votes, but maybe when he approaches a gay person in the world, maybe he won't be immediately such an asshole to them and treat them like we're at the circus. Maybe you're going to be that representation that in that what is the word I'm looking for? Like a first encounter, your first impression. Impression. Yeah, your first impression. That's the word, but you were that impression to that person that made them see things a little different. And that's when I'm talking about the power that we have to approach somebody with kindness even if they're being addicted to you and you're not going to win them all, but you just whatever will go away . You don't purposely seek it out. And I think that's what that's what gets my go about Liv Le Tino . But that was a good unpopular opinion . That was a good unpopular opinion. I think we should just keep going off of your unpopular opinions today. You know what write on my fucking coattails? 'Cause his unpopular opinion is how much he hates Addison Ray. What did you say about Addison Ray that she actually said that she was now let me quote to quote, she is cold boogers on a plate on a paper plate. He said come on, Medusa, dare to be truthful. Cold boogers on a paper plate . That hurt . No way. I don't listen. I don't hate Addison Ray. She has like a backseat in the car song that I felt like, okay, it's good. She's got a backseat in the car song . She's the whisper singing. I don't like the way I want to I want to hear somebody sing, not sit there and whisper into a mic. Everybody like song not everyone's going to be not everyone's going to be Cheryl Crowe. Not everybody Bonnie Rait, no one's going to be no one's going to be like nobody's ever gonna be there especially like electronic. Nobody's ever gonna be Addison Ray either , but that's not my point. My point is she doesn't fucking sing. She whispers and you would say the same thing about Brittney Spears . No , she's more like whiny or like nasal. The fuck was that? Okay, but what about but what about some of those like indie guy guys you show that are like twink les kind of alternative sad boy music that you play sometimes. What's that? I don't even know. You gotta give me I feel like that's probably a true thing, but I don't know . I can't even rough off the top of my head because I don't save it. That's a whole unpopular opinion on Lady Gaga go . I think she's selling out . I think she's selling out to the to the . I think she's selling out to the masses and I would too for paycheck probably , but but really paycheck for her paycheck, yeah. I mean , that's some fucking But how was she selling out? I just, I mean, you know what? This goes one of two ways. Again, it's all nuance. I think she sells that because I love what she used to used to be. I love like pushing the boundaries , fashion and all this crazy stuff. Like that was fashion. Now she drops this song fashion with Dochi and it reads as like a fucking pride corporate sponsored commercial . It doesn't read as like real fashion to me. It doesn't read as real gay icon to me. It's just like here's a trendy song and let's throw some stuff at it gay. Happy gay pride month gay. Here's your ten percent discount. It's like, what the fuck? Like just break some boundary and doji I love doji and she has to drop some bangers but what is it? It's dog or do chi do chi do chi. Okay . Fabulous, but I just whatever that was. And so but I've had this opinion on and off, right? Like you can't talk about can't talk about gaga without the gays coming for you. Let me gay. It's not the gays. The gays get the little monster. The little monster not all gays. But the thing is I was one and I still respectfully put on your little monster. Yeah, put on the fame monster. Like I love the fame. The fame is a big part of my like gay awakening as a kid. Like I fucking got down to that. Again, why my love for sexy electronic music for women comes from shit like that. So it's hard for me to see it. Like when I see the top gun stuff, I'm not a big fan. There's not many, there's no albums that she's dropped probably since. But can't somebody be the boundary pusher and the , you know , Trendsetter and still do corporate. Well, that was my problem. That's why I said it was nuanced, right? Because I said it could be one two ways. And that's what I mean is like I can sit here and talk shit about it and be mad. But on the other hand, it's like people are should be allowing her to change and be comfortable. She's worked her ass for years. Is it change? Is it change or is it for lack of a better word, I'm going to use a word that I would use if we were talking about Madonna , but or is it that she's a Came leon where she's both of those things? Adapting to Well, adapting, but also like just because you're one thing doesn't mean you're not another. So just because you're cool and edgy and pushing boundaries and being a trendsetter and a trailblazer and fashion and music and even acting, which I think she's quite a good actress . Even though you're all these things, it doesn't mean you can't also turn around and like sit behind the desk and say I'm gonna put a suit on and right now I'm going to write this song or perform the song that was written for this movie because I love this movie or whatever or they paid me a lot or whatever her reason is could it be that? Of course. It could be all of it though. And like, I'm just one voice. And that's just my if my opinion would be like that, and it's, but it doesn't mean that of course, like she's a human. She deserves the ability to do what she wants. Whether I like what she puts out or not, like, what the fuck does that matter? She's cashing that check. She's selling out stadiums. So like , you know, I'm nobody that matters with my voice, but sometimes just fun to talk about, especially when you're really friends. Again, there's nuance in everything. I can there's plenty of artists I dislike straight up, but if I talk about that, you know, and it's immediately arms up, people, people being all upset about it, but at the end of the day, it' agains just like it doesn''t fuckin matter, just one person's opinion. Okay, favorite lady gaga song I guess maybe basic, but dance in the dark. I just come on. I used to work with that writer. I told you that. Really? No, I had no. Yeah, Fernando Garabay. It's so fun. Like it's just it's fun and when you're when you're a kid and you're glamorizing women, you're glamorizing icons . It's just one of those kind of beautiful fun moments. What I think is interesting about that song and I'm going to give you my speaking of dancing in the dark , I'm going to give you my unpopular opinion about Lady Gaga . And that is I don't think she admits how big of a blueprint Madonna was for her . I think that she is She is misleading people with not admitting and not truly paying homage to somebody like Madonna because I mean the references are the references you know,, the songs of the song s , but with Dance in the dark , that one part in the song. Marilyn, Judy, Cecilia. When I listened to them, I'm like, bl such aatant , you know , I would say like paying tribute to, but then just like it's not spoken of. I feel like it's almost denied. It has been not with that song specifically, but other things . Yeah. I'd have to look at interviews to see, but I feel like you're right. Like, I feel like there has been, like, when I've read about it, people feel like they've pushed it and she's kind of like, No, no, like, I'm own, I'm completely own thing. Yeah . Which nobody said she's not. Yeah. Like she's an incredible singer. She has some great songs. I like the movies she's been in. Yeah, she's a great dancer. But just give people their flowers. And on top of all that, on top of all that, she's fucking kind . She's kind and she's good to people and I feel like she's behind she gets behind causes that are meaningful and make a difference . She doesn't seem like somebody who is greedy and selfish and I mean, I think she probably has a huge ego, but I think that she balances it really well. Yeah So she could be an asshole and do those things , you know? No, it's true. But she's yeah, overall, I think she's she's probably really it's a good point. Cool person. I knew somebody who was really close with her and they would always say nothing but great things about her. As a person. Yeah, just their time hanging out. That's good. It matters. But nonetheless, my opinion, it's my opinion. Yeah, I would agree . I think giving people their flowers is not a definitely not a can't go wrong with talking about influence. Yeah , your appreciation and how they've influenced you and how they've impacted you. Yeah . Or just how they shaped the industry period . And people should actually get a lot of hate. I know we have a whole conversation about Madonna , but there's a lot of hate there. She is almost seventy years old. She's sixty seven. She'll be sixty eight this year. She's almost seventy. She's been around for so long and our society doesn't have approach of tipping your hat to her to saying that's badass. That is all American. I'm proud I'm fucking proud to say I like Madonna just because she is she represents the American Dream . Yeah. So from absolutely nothing , did it on her own self made made in a time that it was much harder back then to do what she did than it is for people today. You can find people to work with and never even have to leave your basement. Yeah , you know, but to I don't know . I get it, breaking some serious boundaries. Yes. Like really more than just bitching and leaving a comment on somebody's TikTok video and more than just sharing a rant online. I mean, really breaking boundar ies, risking , getting arrested, talking about things, getting banned videos and songs banned, you know, like pushing the boundaries of sex and expression and being an expression but being a trailblazer in what music was . I don't know, I just think that's like our society should look at people like that. And there's a lot of people like that. There are a lot of artists and people who aren't even famous but have contributed in some way. We should hold those people in such high regard and lift them up and not pick them apart because of their art and what they how they perform or belittle them because of a facelift and also just appreciating a person for what they have done separate from who they are now , which is a whole which again gets kind of controversial, right? We talked about one person in particular today who has a lot of influence on me who I love, which is Gwen Stefani. I think Gwen Stefani I saw people in the comments when I mentioned Gwen Stefani and they're like ew not these guys with this shade Magan. She's Maga now and it's like, you know what ? But me loving her does again two things to be true. It does not equate to me liking or supporting Maga or even fucking putting up with the kind of stuff that she's making now, the lame country music . But that being said , two completely different people in my eyes. Like who she is now, I don't fucking know. I don't really care , but like who Gwen Stefani was when I was growing up, my first concert I went to. It's attached to real experiences and how it was a really nostalgic sense somebody that shook the scene as well. Somebody that absolutely had an amazing influence in music. And when she went solo from no doubt . Yeah. I dance at so many house parties. No, yeah. Smoking weed and dancing to her music. Yeah. Yeah. A strong badass bitch. I mean, bad ass. And I would ask because I don't know, but I think I've seen the videos that people suspect, you know, say that she's Maga for, you know ? And I think that if you're religious these days, you kind of in a way are automatically assumed to be MAGA. Yeah. If you're outspoken about being religious , and I know she did, you know, some sponsored commercials or something for some kind of religious app or something, but does that make her Maga? Has she ever actually come out and supported the MAGA agenda verbally? Is she somebody who's wearing a red hat? I don't know. No, I couldn't tell you the same. I don't know either, but I feel like if she was, we would have seen it. Yeah. It would have been or you don't know or they're good at hiding it. I don't know, but at the same time, it's like our responsibility. If they're hiding it, then we have to respect the fact that they're not airing that and they're not using that or as infl they'ure and theyen'cedre just making art and we shouldn't seek out what people's political opinion is to base our like or dislike for them on. You know and and you're fault and you're entitled to like of course you're entitled to not like somebody because there are plenty of people like, of course you're entitled to not like somebody, but they're also entitled to say nothing about their political beliefs and make art and whoever's listening can like the art or not , but shouldn't continue to press and be like there Maggie and make accusatory accusations at somebody they just happen to do a religious app or they're married to somebody who people suspect is Maga or might be Maga. Yeah . If they're if they remain silent like Dolly Parton , she has never endorsed anybody . She was asked about it and she said I would, prefer to paraphrasing, it's not a direct quote, but I prefer not to talk about it because when you talk about it, it just people get angry and it just makes a mess of it and I don't think that's my job to do. Something like that. Yeah . And I don't remember anybody like getting pissed off about that. Yeah. Making accusations. What algorithms it hits, the people that pick it up and the way the story gets spun and the amount of people that see it and their reaction to it. Look, another one was Nicole Shirzinger . Like she's really she's a pretty religious woman. So people are immediately like, I don't like her anyways. Okay, well I like I think she's very talented. Oh, she's talented. Fucking talented. But I don't know about her. Again, so maybe this begs the question of we live in an all or nothing society where it's like it is really all or nothing? Well, I think it kind of goes along with your cancel culture . I think that we do, but I think that people are starting to wake up to the fact that maybe we actually don't and you're living in an alternate reality believing that we do . Because I think a lot of us feel not the same that we feel , but there's two sides. The two things can be true at one time . And I think that people are starting Yeah . Like am I understanding that they are allowed to love and say let's just for conversation's sake, Segwenzani comes out today and she's like, I am proud Maga fuck you vagit re, what if she does Am I a lesser gay man or a lesser person if I were to still sometimes on my own time listen to fuckin' a song that she made back in the day. A song of streams. Does that automatically equate me to being bad? Because then people like, well, you're funding this, the money, the streams, go to this, and I get that. I do. I'm not even talking about that, but morally , it's like, am I not allowed to enjoy, but that's kind of the where we're at, right? It's like if we can't enjoy something and people will be damn sure to make sure that you know that you should not or you should feel guilty. But those also have the right to not fund or support anything that you do. Yeah . Yeah. This is true. No, and that's that's true . Yeah. That's where we live That's how it works. I think it's just gonna be a lot of figuring it out as it goes for sure. Like it's so open ended and up in the air all the time about this stuff. But I think you're right. When you say people are done, I think people are done. People are done, doesn't matter who you are . It's like less of a political thing and more of a control thing. Which again, these women were talking about broke barriers of control. They didn't want to be controlled. And there's a difference between like supporting an asshole and supporting conservative, whatever ideology, Christian nationalism. Like those are their own beasts, but also just like being a nuanced human being that listens to an artist that might have said some random wack shit stuff back in the day that you didn't even know about , you know, I think it's all there's all levels to it. And I think we are getting to a point where people should be allowed to enjoy what they want to enjoy without people making assumptions about you . Just because you enjoy some piece of art. I don't look at a pain ting from an artist back in the day and go, wow, like that's beautiful, but I can't think that's pretty because they were equated to some crazy shit because most of those people were doing crazy shit back then. You know, there's stuff people appreciate. I don't want to get into it, but it's yeah so just love and we can talk about it forever. I could talk about this all day. In fact, we have talked about this kind of thing many times. Yeah , but should people not just be allowed to enjoy what they enjoy. I may talk shit about people, artists that didn't like that song right, then people are mad at me in the comments for it, but that's never going to be telling that person in the comment, well, you shouldn't fucking listen to them. Like they're a bad person. You shouldn't listen. No, I don't like it, so I won't listen to it. If you like it, you love it, I mean, I'm glad you like it. I mean, imagine the energy, the things we could do with our lives if we stopped worrying about what other people did with theirs. It's control. It's a control. It's a grasp. Maybe you don't have control in your own life and it's such a pick me mentality. Social media is also that like pick me up or maybe you don't have anything going on in your life. Well yeah. And that's why they want to be picked. It's like look at me. I'm a social activist. Yeah. Look at me . I posted this on my story and I commented, I did my part. Now I'm gonna eat you up because you I disagree with. Like where's I did I just can't even imagine having time to know and honestly there was a time that I really got worked up over shit that I saw online. Yeah . But then you're feeding that beast. And then if you really want to get in a combination, I think that we all kind of found ourselves in some kind of a place like that during the pandemic. I think that temperatures were really raised because of the lockdown and how it was handled and the finger pointing and the lack of government response. Yeah . You know, and I feel like that's really where it really, really the heights of it was the pandemic. That's what I'm saying. It's like if it goes far as over it. It's what they wanted, right? It's what's what they what I say they like the elites, but it is what they want to do. It doesn't matter because mad and con quer. And you're feeding the beast. If this person's mad at me and they're fucking posting on our Instagram and I'm arguing back, it doesn't matter what we think because we are feeding Instagram , we're making Instagram more money . Instagram is making more money. It's all going towards the shit that we both don't support. So me and this gay person on shop at Rome. But we funds my fucking campaigns . They bankroll my , you know , yeah, what a what a place we live in. It doesn't really nothing means anything . Nothing means anything. Nothing means anything. Yes. But Jean Paul Satre, which is the book, the long that big boring book, the big paper book with peanut butter in it. With peanut butter, you got peanut butter on my pages . But it is, the book is really interesting. It's existentialism, which is like, I'm not going to have a we could have a whole bunch of episodes about that. But really it's just like in my mind I'm interpreting is like does anything really mean anything or does something only something means if you give it the power. Does existence only matter if you're giving it that power? Oh my gosh, this is too much . It's too much. I need lighter topics. Okay, fine. We're on unpopular opinion. We're sa goingve to the existentialism for next year. Hold up. That was another that was a good unpopular opinion. Both of those were my ideas. It's now your unpopular opinion. I'm giving you your turn. So much to go off of. No , why do you mean so much to go off of? I'm giving you plenty. My unpopular opinion . Oh my god . I don't draw aing blank . It's kind of hard. I don't know why though, 'cause I feel like there's plenty of things that would be unpopular that I would . I mean, Gwen Stefani was kind of an unpopular opinion. Yeah, people really mad were mad unpopular opinion. This is a good one for you. You have kids. I think there should be more places that are you're like, there should be more wineries that accept kids and have that and there's certain types, but I also think there should be more adult only spaces. I feel like there's so much stuff that's catered to children. Like so many things I grew up with going once I turned eighteen going to like Halloween horror nights at Great America, theme park I loved, they got rid of .one E loveryved it, but they got rid of it to make family friendly Snoopy Park, you know ? And like all of the social adult tractor rides, adult like female, like all these things that I feel like they're becoming less and less. Like as I get older and I'm hanging out with friends and I want to go do an adult fun thing. This is my unpopular pin. I think there should be more things. I think that the world is catered to children. Whether it's music, whether it's what 's on TV, whatever. It's like it's like I totally understand protecting, but in my mind, I'm like, it's the parent's job to protect their kids, even though they can't control everything. It's not about protecting. It's not about protecting. But for me, the unpopular opinion is that I think it's I think the world should stop catering to children so much . My kids are not going to be happy with you, first of all. I think it's about this . It's about money. Exactly. These places know that they're going to make more money if kids earned No, I know. What do we have to talk about? I know. I'm just telling you why my opinion. I don't necessarily disagree with that , but I can't necessarily agree with it either, I guess because in my life revolves around activities that involve children. Even you know, the other day we went to the winery and it had to be the one winery that allows kids. Yeah . But we didn't care the kids were playing and we were different. It's different too when you have like kids that are kind of having fun and taking care of themselves. When I talk about going to spaces there's kids just running screaming. I'm different because I have kids. So even when there is a young and younger kid screaming, I've been there. I know . I'm immune to it. Yeah. I know what you're talking about , but I mean, there's gotta be. You can go to the bars, bars, bars , strip clubs. Say bars, there's been plenty of bars I've gone to where there's kids and I'm like, What the fucking kids can't hear? What bar? Not like where we went, but Abbey No. There 's no kids in clubs. I take my kids to bars . My point exactly. Yeah. But why can't kids be in bars? No kids anywhere allowed to wear. They just want to play pool , drink soda, and watch the game . And it's the best because then the parents can go have a beer and decompress . I shouldn't have shouldn't have kids. Shouldn't brought up my opinion now again . I don't but I don't disagree with you, but there's got to be more places that don't allow kids . Like nudist camps? Yeah, but I'm not going to where am I going to a nudist camp? Let me do a challenge because today is we're filming this on a Monday . We shoot a lot of our podcasts on Mondays . And today I posted a reel that Joffrey had put together Joffrey Pops , and I posted it. And in that post I was doing a dance at the gym . Can you replicate that dance for us today? I'm thinking about the top of my head without even thinking what were you doing? You made that real . What were you doing? So the answer is no, no , well, hold on, let me see. No the shoulders have to come up . Yep, and you have to like No, you got it stand up He's hiking them up. Really look like an LA game in that . So you have to your toes have to point out . You definitely have to keep pulling these up like you're going like all the way up. Yes, because you really have to swing the hip. Get this grandpa hands up . So if your pants are down here, it's hard to swing a hip. So you pull them off, you go All right, so do we have anything else to talk about before we go? Anything else you'd like to say before we go today? No , do you have any jokes for us? Good jokes. Yeah, let's switch by switch spots What? A switch by at the end of the episode? Yeah. Are you gonna pretend like you're me? You gonna pretend like you're me Oof . I don't know if I like this. I don't know if I like it. This is not my good side, by the way. This is my bad side. All right, I'm What the fuck is that? That's it that was all, that's all. Are you saying that that's me You look like I just needed the reaction . You look like David's dad from David's dad. Yeah, from Oh my gosh. It's Creek. Yeah . Gene Levy? Eugene. Eugene. Okay, I was close. This does give Eugene Levy . For sure. I was close . They're both kind of sexy though. Yeah . They look sexy . They seem very hairy though. I think it's the eyebrows. Yeah . It's kind of hot though. I like hair. You don't like hair. Do you like unibrows? I could get behind I could I could survive it. Survive it? No, I mean, I feel like I would notice, it'd be hard to not be hard to notice. I think they're sexy though. It just depends on everything else. I think it really frame there's something about people who have very pronounced thick eyebrows that kind of connect. If you're not I think their eyes usually are very long as you're like not unkempt . Frame their eyes very well . Yeah All right, well then ladies and gentlemen, Blue Hamilton , Joffee pops. You're wearing some joffy shorts right now that's for me. I'm wearing joffee shorts . These are the gayest I've seen you dress actually. With the adidas too. That is definitely like a me outfit for sure . Gay? Yeah . Gay ? This gay? This gay? This is gay. Yeah, I mean, look at he's wearing show them to him a kakama. You're wearing no shows. Who would the fuck wears no shows anymore? There's a reason I'm wearing no shows. You want to ask me instead of just being a dick? Sorry, what was the reason why are you wearing no shows? Because the other day I was standing in front of the mirror and I noticed that I had this tan line . And summer's coming, ladies and gentlemen, it's shred time and it's also it's grooming time , you know ? And it's also being aware of your tan line time. So I am slowly tanning myself so I'm not just bam on the beach with a white sock. Bam on the beach. I'm gonna be bam on the beach with like a what do you call it? Nicely blended ombraid light toe into a dark cav and chop. So is that why you've been wearing like I usually wear high socks to the gym but I've, just been seeing you wear short socks to the gym. That and my other socks are really old. They're so old and stretched out. Like this part of it is normal , but this part of it's like a balloon. Yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah. Almost like Christmas stockings . So I just need it. I try the thing, I try not to buy shit like that off Amazon . I could have them tomorrow , but I tried to go to a physical store and buy stuff like that. Fuck it. I'll wear these. Served double whammy . You know what? I hope you get laughed at the beach. You can have fucking white feet . Little duck feet . They're not white white feet. Those are white feet. They're not that white. But you also have a pool . I barely use it, but you know what? I walk around, I feel like I get tammy my feet . High five, bro. I get a cramp . High five, bro. We need this. That's our thumbnail . It feels so weird