Hometown Story and Conclusion

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So cool. It was so fun. And we' if you paid attention last time last night, my dress was starting to rip in the back and guess what? It's gotten bigger. There it is. I feel so much better Dress hole watch ninety nine. We're gonna watch this hole grow bigger and bigger all night long You know what? Don'ty Gross, God. Let me say one weird Freudian slip at the top of the show for God's sake. You know what? I've eaten so fucking well in this city. that the stress doesn't fit I had one of those burritos today that you were talking about. Where's it from? It's from. Matador. Yeah, yeah. G. Good shit. And then I had a fucking lobster roll. right before we had to come in here and I had to put this dress on. So I was just like you're working against your own dress. It's like we're coming towards the end of the tour and like all the things that I were like prepping for in the beginning, like fake tan and I'm gonna make sure I whiten my teeth and I gotta make sure my dress is fit and blah blah. Like I just fucking have like goodbye. At that point this point No. It's just like, what am I ordering when I get back to the hotel? That's right. For room service. More lobster rolls, more lobster rolls. I have to say, you know, we went down by the beautiful harbor and looked at the clippers ship. I don't know. There's a bunch of boats down there and stuff And it was such a gorgeous day today, like unbelievably gorgeous. and then that area is so gorgeous. There's a man walking behind us and we stopp to look at, you know down the Down the view where the big Sweel is I don't know. You're the one that lives here. Parris S Wheel. Thank you And then this guy stopped behind us, and I was like, o, this guy is following us. And it's like No, no, no, everybody likes the view, Karen. Everybody He's got a camera. He's from somewhere else. like reason. For that exact same reason. Did you go on Would you go on the feris wheel? Vincecent and were debating that for some reason while we were looking. It's scary. scary. Like I don't need to see that high. I can see from like the third floor of the hotel that that's pretty fucking amazing Without being terrified, it's so high. It's so high And also those things snap off and roll into the sea all the time, all the time. Absolutely sick of that shit. And then like That is Karens Stance from here on. God God, I'm mad about it. That And you know what? It's a nice harbor. smmells too much like fish. I'm sorry I haveve one note, get rid of that fish smell. Speaking of fish smells, this is my favorite. That's your Jart St here Kilgara Yeah. You're Seattle U I was gonna tell Ohh, you know what's playing at this theater coming up? What? The show young. but also Rocky Horror Picture show. Oh shit I feel like it's like hollowed grounds more than like when we did what's that one place we did in Nashville Oh the. I'm like, whatever, but then I'm like, Rocky Horror is gonna be here. so exciting. I wish I could time travel back to my twelve year old self where Rocky horror played every Saturday night in a pllaza theater in Pedaluma.. I think we that theater is it's in a book or something. They did it for a really long time. But I wish I could just go back as a An old Cone and whisper and my twelve year old ear was like, it just is this over and over again until you die. This is the best. You're gonna keep on hearing this song by the cure. You're gonna keep on like it's all the same. It just keeps repeating. Have you lost your spark? My mind Let'sin our best. Yeah. We really are Here we are. We're trying Who knows? Look, Hey, listen. Oh I have another question. I don't know why I'm asking all these questions like the Therosvel one, but I was taking a bath in the hotel and I was like, is this gross When most people take a bath, a separate bathtub from a shower. I'm not a fucking monster. I would never I'd never like combine the two. But when there's like a separate bathtub, I'm like, yes. and I get so excited and I get in the bath. and I'm like, Who else has been in here? Yeah They have to clean it, right? They do. but then I also ask how much bleach is in there when I'm getting in. Bleach is great for eczema, though So I swear We don't want to talk about eczema anymore. It's very ra though, because we are csycchically connected because I also tried to take a bath today. Oh, okay. Yes. And I actually switched it over from becausecause it is a very nice bathtub. We're very lucky to have the best bathtubs in the business. I switched it over to the like hand sprayer thing and I was just like ble. Yeah. getet rid of this bleach. There must be bleach everywhere. I am not worried about bleach. I'm worried about other people's skin cells. One time I got out of the bathtub and I had someone else's body glitter on me That's when I knew. You don't have to be upset about that, though, because that was just a kindergarten teacher. I've told this story on the show before, but my sister hass been a kindergarten teacher for thirty years and she She She's like, hereere's how you know I'm a kindergarten teacher. I just sneezed and glitter came out of my nose. It just part of the job as in. see two seats empty and go, what fight did they get in on the way here? What was the argument about? Also, I see those two seats and I'm like those are totally my tickets when I'm not the one on the stage. I'm likeike out there and I'm like, Okaykay, sorry, I'm twenty nine minutes late. You don't have to be mad at me all the time. Oh my go, you guys if they come and quietly walk in, let's all like yell something at them at the same time Sos like, let's sl' up Fank Wanna show show your dress? It's the mayayor of Seattle. Oh here's my dress and it has pockets Yeah, I love this one. Two, twowo of ' them. twowo in the front. At least two. None of those butt pockets on a dress, like you hate. And we have an accidental matching sequence. like, Oh, what Yes, that's right. Oh, we sorry, we were having a listen. Wh't we just have one minute one meeting in front of you? We are very excited because we do have a little tiny surprise for you tonight There is a special guest here that we is part of the Fitnut Stehven Now you made a guests feel really fucking bad. Yeah. Good job. We who is part of the My favorite murder family from the very beginning that we just absolutely adore. And he's a voluntary part of the My favorite Murder family just began to make things for us. is so perfect. We love him so much. Ladies and gentlemen, it's Nick Terry pointed to that person, but I don't know where he's coming from not. He, Jerry Oh God, he looks like he would draw Nick Terry's animation. That's. is perfect Nick Terry Yeah. come here It's so good to see you. Have people recognized you here tonight? Not tonight now. Oh. You guys, last night, the audience was better. A couple last night at the very end. Is it so exciting? Yeah, it's fun. I never know what to say. Have you seen MFM animated tattoos in the wild? Not in person, but I've gotten some photos over All right, over the years. Can someone really quickly run out, get a fucking quick NFN animated Vince, actually. I was thinking Vincent I could get if Vincent I had to get couplees tattoos, I could get his MFM animated for some reason on my stomach. And he could get mine 'cause that's where the nipple is. Well, we want to thank you for being part of the family and just we're such big fans. Oh, I'm so honored to be able to participate in this school thing was Cerry is the perfect Seattle citizen to interact with He's the perfect representation of like chill Insanely talented. Not a dick. and loves the rain Do of their ra in that street. Yeah, absolutely Well, we love you. Thank you for everything. Yeah. We just wanted to get you up here so people could put their eyes on you and then buy you coffee the next time they see you Thank so much. How you just pointed it in that general direction? It was just like someone' standing over Marcus? Oh that's a Trst. Sorry, Marcus I don't know my glasses on. Well, is it sit down time? It sit down time on ry Here we go. I just remembered I didn't print up one email. Oh no That's fine.ll I'll recite it off the top of my head. Is it gonna ruin this? Is the storyuin Is the night?hould we just end this? I think we should end it right now. Thanks so much. Sech speech, speech. We got our table back. We accidentally had a short table recently. O. I mean, the challenges that we've seen on this tours absolute hard. like do I take a bath or do I not take a bath? It's really hard. Who are we? It's been ten years and now we're the biggestep bathtime divas of all time. Thank you Thanks for supporting that U Who's first? Okay I'll tell them about we're doing today. Yes. I don't even remember how this. this is a little speech that we like to give because oftentimes you guys, we've been touring and coming to Seattle for since we started touring. You guys were like the Third stop, I think we ever made. And unlike Portland, you didn't get shit faced and throw up in the aisle It sounds like a challenge. kind just trying to start pick up the rivalry tonight. One Portlander is out there like crying back We just want to tell anybody who there's plenty of people that the people who listen to this podcast, forced to come to live shows, which is cruel and selfish, but we'll talk about that later. The people who are forced, we call you drag alongs. and we just give you a little speech at the top because you will not know what's happening. A lot of this is like going to your friends College reunion or some shit where everyone's like, I remember that one time? and it's like, no, I don't. And this is boring. right Also, we just want to tell you or explain a little bit. This is a true crrime comedy podcast. And we started this podcast because Georggeia and I met and we realized that we have similar trauma and we cope with it in similar ways. Through you more, I won't stop missning humor, the humor thing, yeah. It started as humor. Now I'm saying you more. Now no one knows what's going on But at least I think it's funny. What's the point We cope with it through humor and we cope with it through reading true crime stories. We don't know why, you don't know why. it's just how it is with us. And we don't think murder's funny. We think we're funny. Ultimately, If you don't like it, you can get the fuck out That was a big one. My friend Carrie, Selen Vetter text me today. We were texting about, you know, she got in a car accident and she's stressed out. did this happen and I said, It's probably not helping that I'm listening to a book about Columbine. And she goes, how are we gonna to get you into sexy dragons? She's like, what is wrong with you? We need you to get into like fantasy, Georgia. Jesus, fucking Christ. I know. It was not even for work. I'm just fucking's That's my That's your go to. Jesus. It feels right. It just feels right. Sexy dragons. that's my next podcast. You can't force sexy dragons though, that's kind of the worst way to interact with them It's gotta be natural. It's gott to be U, Okaykay, Marcus, is this you he keeps putting G Grizz or G skillet or G Georgia's G. Do you have a one too? No, he doesn't like me It's fun. I like it. It's always different and I'm finally paying attention and noticing what. Eight cities in, great. Am first? Listen. We're having a great time. It says here, you're going first Iolly like you're so stupid that I know that even though I text you this afternoon, you're gonna forget. which I did. 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Go to homeomeserve d. com slash podcast for fifty percent less your first year. That's homeomServe d. com slash podcast. Savings compared to renewal price vo in Florida ' first That's right. Yes, it is Yeah, really focus and let's be professional. ing St starting now starting time. Yeah. Wait, starting now. Okay. So tonight's story that I'm gonna tell you is about a group of four hell raising siblings from Spokane Which I said correctly. You sure did. I know. And also my story was from Spokane last night and one of our great listeners who wrote in an email calledall it the Sacramento of Washington you said it, not us. Yeah We didn't do it. No. We're just reading emails from you. Don't misplace your anger here. Take it elsewhere. And so this is about four hellraising siblings from Swan, who probably got away with murder. Their multiple trials were huge sensations in the early nineteen hundreds when your parents were born U But it's supposedly been lost to time. This is the story of the infamous Douglas sorry, McDonald family. This is Douglas. McDonald Douglassas. McDonald Douglas. Yes. McDonald family. Stephven. We love their hamburgers. We. Okay. The main source for the story is a two part essay from History Link, which summarizes a lot of the oldld timey reporting, and that article is by Jim Kirschner So We are in Spokane And it's mid July of nineteen nineteen, and a woman named, o, here we go. it's just starting immediately. A woman named Pearl McNutt. Hell ye Like just right off the bat. She will only have nouns in her name only. Yes So we're already off to the Mcnut races, and it's only gonna get worse And we try not to work blue, but when we do, we just go in We just go all in. Yeah. Remember the h in George's dress Oh and the nipple Um, who could forget the nipple So Carl McNutt walks into a police station and she claims that her husband, a prominent real estate developer named guess what? William McNut. has been missing for about a month. So Pearl says that weeks earlier, her husband had gone over to a local boarding house that's called The Wolverine P prettyty that is. Is it still there know. What if you're like, I want to open a boarding house, What should I call it?? The sea wolf No How about sexy Dragons? No no Wolverine. Wolverine so mister McNutt went to settle a dispute over money at the Wolverine. McNutt had loaned someone had loan the startup cash to open the hotel to four siblings. and now they're not repaying the loan is agreed and Pearl hasn't seen her husband since he went to try to collect the money that they owed him weeks earlier, which I guess like lost in translation that you wouldn't go like twowo days later, whatever. But think about what Laura Ingelswilder would have done and how long it would have taken her to do that. First of all, you have to go ask Pa you have to go down to misses. Olson's cororner store and get some supplies. And it's nineteen nineteen. so she's not used to like making her own decisions, not like like us now, right? Well you just said, but it's nineteen ninety. I said nineteen nineteen. Oh, my mistake. ' it was pretty fucked up in nineteen nineteen nineteen ninety as well It's always sucked. Okay. So Oh, and then Allie, my researcher wrote, No to Georgia, there are three Williams in this story. so my hands are tied. I have to refer to him as McNutt. As if she doesn't know me and know that I would do that anyways. No matter how many Williams we were discussing. There's Bill, there's Will. There's Willie. There's Billy. There's just McNutt. Theres McNutt and I There's B nuts with a Z at the end Okay, so the wolverine is owned and operated by the McDonald's siblings, Marie, Faye, Ted, and Will, another fucking William. They're all in their early twenties to early thirties, and Faye is the youngest at around twenty years old. The McDonald's are an interesting bunch. Their father, who has been dead for about two years, was a judge Not a respected one. He had never been an attorney and he had just been elected as judge as a populist candidate. Hey, you go decide everyone's fate because You're charismatic, I don't know. You drink a lot with people in bars and stuff. I mean, how do you do that where it's like, you know what? let old McNott decide And he had made a lot of big promises, had a lot of charisma, but it was ultimately just a scammer. And so he's left his four kids behind. As soon as he had been elected, he hired three family members to be bailiffs. you you nepotism. Y. It's really bad up here. One of which was his son, Will Who was twelve years old at the time So will the twelve year old baillift? That is an MFM animated sketch. and will will Wouldn't that be amazing if we make Nick do it live like behind us quits forever. Quick sketches? He also starts having his daughter, Fe, his youngest daughter preach on the evangelical circuit when she's eight years old. Oh. That's who I want to hear fucking about Jesus from as a f But think about it, what? Eerie Creepy creepy. Yeah. right? Becauseuse you know, she's like one of those old souls that like talks like an adult as an eight year old. And then she's like, guess what Jesus said? And you're like, oh no. The weird child told me what God said. you would absolutely fall for it. Not you, but would one would love it. Sure. I can see that So in nineteen fifteen, four years before McNutt goes missing, a fire breaks out at Marie's house. and at the time, Marie, one of the siblings, is around twenty years old, and she has just gotten divorced from a man, another William, William Wilkinson. Please get him out of the family. There's too many bills No, it gets worse because he's described as a street railroad man, which we think means he either drove a streetc or works on Spokane's trolley network in some capacity. We don't know But the fire is set at Marie's house. Actually, here's a photo of Marie and Fe What a gorgeous photo What did she do? She's about to sing or sneeze She's actually like, I can't believe this fucking guy's gonna take a picture of us right now But doesn't it kind of looks like that's Fe and that's Marie just by the length of the names down there. Can't read right. But also the younger sister's always the taller one though. Soab You know what I mean? And more beautiful. smartest. oneer. Hey But also, so doesn't Marie kind of look like two children in an overcoat Oh. And not to body shame. That's not my style Let's make sure that they pay for all their movie tickets. That's all I'm saying Structurally, yes, it's not body shaming. Okay structurally. It's more of shape shaming, right So there's a fire at Marie's house. When the fire is put out, the fire marshals immediately notice some fishy things going on at Marie's house. To start with, all the shades are drawn and tacked down to the window sills so no one can see into the house Tacked. Which also sounds like you're just making drugs. That's very messhy, but in nineteen nineteen R Secondly, all of the furniture had been moved out of the house before the fire started. Um And well, you know? Well good luck. Yeah. And there's little petals of baby kerosene here and there. So this looks suspicious. The fire marshal also finds out that Marie had recently taken out an insurance policy worth fifteen hundred fif hundred dollars for the personal property in the house wasn't in the house anymore Oh ye, They're trying to get that thousand five hundred dollars. Which in today's money. fifteen hundred doars from nineteen nineteen. nineteen fifteen. It's to make a huge difference. Yeah Yeah. that's gonna change my data quite a bit as I calculate Let me calculate I literally always just guess like, is it thirty seven thousand dollars? forty eight. That's so close though. That was pretty close for me. I usually like to go. That's okay. So nice. like all the drag alongs are. I was like, what the fuck's happening? Why did they clap for her? She was withraong So wrong. That's actually close in today's podcasting. That's Today's money. Nice Thank you Clopping G were Wrong is kind of the theme of this podcast And he's right. Right? That's the fun of it. Are they disagreeing right now? They're agreeing I don't disagreeing at the same time.ot. it's what they're like up here. Okay, the fire marshal notes that all of Marie's belongings are worth about a third of what she's claiming that they're worth, even though they're not even there. So she's charged with arson and her bail is set at about two thousand dollars thirty seven thousand. I think that is less than That same as. Yeah, same number I sayanic sixty four I keep going thirty. I'm just sorry because I was kind of caught up thinking about my sister used to have my grandfather's chest of drawers that she kept in Nora's room just to keep it away. And that fucking thing was so heavy that when we tried to move it out when she got nora new furniture, it was like eight people had to come over. So yeah someone in Marie's houseold had carry out the shifferode and the fucking fainting couch and I mean every single And the neighbors in' snitch, apparently. Yeah. She's bailed out of this arrest by none other than William McNutt. The crooked judge? Yeah No, that's her their parent, their dad. Oh, okay. William McNut's the one who went missing earlier eight hours ago in the beginning of the story. Oh God, it got it So since he's been friends with the fathers, he's still close with the kids and kind of looks after them a little, it seems like in their early adulthood, including bailing her out. and this seems to be a mistake as he goes missing because of it One more weird detail about this Ason chapter is that five days after the Ason and six months after Marie's divorce from the street railroad man, William, just you can just guess William you're right. It's bean nuts He marries Marie. Remember you were like, we should just get rid of him. We would He married Marie's fifteen year old sister, Fe, G said So we can't get rid of this guy Yeah She was fifteen. Yeah. Well, maybe not that, but pretty fucking young. prettyre young. Like twenty there. I would love to turn her on to Korean skincare. It is a life changer. It's a fucking life changer. Go to TJ Max, change your own life. I swear to God Now you can tell they didn't have it back then. No, they did not. It's all just one burlap sack that the whole town shared Break them off.. Um, So basically there's a court they go to court and in the end there's a hung jury and the judge declares a mistrial. and so the prosecutor chooses not to charge Marie again. So she got away with this arson. So between the fire nineteen fifteen and nineteen nineteen when McNight disappears, the McDonald's wind up opening the Wolverine, this boarding house using funding from McNutt and That was a bad idea to do. You can just keep saying that usually through all these stories. Yeah. everything's a bad idea. Bad idea. So Pearl, the wife, Pearl McNutt, who has three children with McNutt, it says, Jesus She when she's saying to the police that she can't find her husband, she says that he had gotten into an argument with the McDonald's siblings who had said that if he came back to the Wolverine again, they would shoot him And so weeks later, Pearl's like, he went back and I haven't seen him Yeah And the detective's like, let me think about this for a little while Yeah Everyone's just gonna to take some time. Let's not rush any fucking judgments P Pearl also tells the police that all four McDonald's siblings are now amissing themselves So what's more, when police look into the case, they quickly realized that Fe had shipped all of her belongings to Los Angeles under a fake name Yeah So at this point, the fact that all four McDonald's are missing, police are entertaining the idea that Marie has actually run off with McNutt, not that they shot him as they said they would when if he ever came back But okay. He might be under her coat Maybe that's what that's what I'm seeing So a pel goat that does what any person would do and goes to a psychic, a local psychic named Selma Armor. That's a good psychic name.reat. And she says that McNutt has been murdered and his body is buried on a ranch. That's her premonition. This is backed up when an anonymous tipster calls the Burns Detective agency in Los Angeles who at this point have been looped in on the case since they think Fe, since Faye sent all her stuff to Los Angeles,'re like, let's keep an eye out for the It's small one This tipster says that McNutt had been killed with a hammer at the Wolverine in June a month earlier. And then they they can't identify who this caller is, but they're pretty sure that it is William Wilkinson, the husband times too Husband squared, who married the sister and then the sister Oh, yeah yeah, that guy. Yeah. ye. This is complicated. And I'm back What are you thinking about? You know, just if those people come Noope, not yet. Thinking of jokes to say I was gonna yell, look, it's the McNuts, everybody. and Oh, that would have been great. do they They're not here. there's someone here? Okay, o,. At this point, the Burns detectives locate Faye and her husband in Los Angeles, but there's no evidence connecting her to McNutt's disappearance. But that changes on october second, nineteen nineteen when the anonymous tipster, this guy can't stop talking, calls detectives and tells them where McNutt's body can be found. Okay, this person was clearly at the murder R Witnessing perhaps a journalist of some kind? Right. and can't stop feeding them information and they're like, okay, here is sending them a map or like a map quest of He's dropping a pin for these motherfuckers.en it is not working Finally, the tipster tells the Spokane police that Mc Nutt is buried on his own ranch. Remember when the pych There's just so many arrows that nobody's looking at. Yeah. ' remember when the psychic goes like, he's buried on a ranch. And they're like, not on his own ranch. it's his own ranch. It's his ranch. Oh, I thought you meant the guy that was giving the tip was like, it's buried on my ranch. And I'm like, that tipster is not good at giving tips you might as well just come and get me now? And being anonymous, ye So the tipster actually gives specifics, and he said that Will McDonnealll, the brother, had been the one to actually kill McNutt, and he buried him in a four foot hole on the ranch and then made a bonfire over the spot to cover up the newly turned earth. So clearly this person was there Right? Yeah Investigators quickly find the burned area and start digging. soon they find the edge of a blanket and they realize it's wrapped around a body. Pearl is on the scene and identifies her husband, William McNutt, and his skull has been hit multiple times with a blunt object. J as the tipster had s. Yeah, it was a hammer, right? Yeah It seems like it At this point, the Sokane police teleph Los Angeles police, and they arrest three of the four McDonald's siblings, Marie Faye and this what they were Ted What was Ted like, do you think? Thank you. Keep asking. He I bet Ted was just kind of like the younger brother. He's a fuck up. Thank you. Actually, I'm just describing House of Guinness right now That's why my brain went through. I'm watching that too. It's good, right Thank you You're welcome. anyyime. Sorry about the red bulls now Remble and lobster role Ea guysuys.'s why Why is that your city treat Sorry I been from here. No it's actually my signature scent The cats will love you Um it gives you fins, that' so but loobsters don't have foter there. Thank you Um Okay, but they can't track down the fourth sibling William, because these Williams I And that, as you recall, is the one who it was said actually killed and buried McNutt. So he's kind of the one that they want the most and they can't find him And in late October of nineteen nineteen, the remaining three McDonald's siblings are extradited to Spokane and charged with McNutt's murder that McD yeah, that was a picture Oh There C us. Do you see Charlie XyX right there Right? And that must be Lord, then You cannot argue with those eyebrows though. they are just just devastating brows Yeah Those are not even yeah. Fr one hundred and some odd years ago. Right. Wow Okay, so that's them. they're going to a trial. And so basically the trial begins in January of nineteen twenty and Will McDonald' still isn't located The sibling's story has changed and just keeps changing. Marie says that McNutt had come to the Wolverine and had physically attacked her and that Fe, her sister had tried to protect her. and then Will, the brother had burst dramatically into the room point There's two whills Now. at that point, McNutt had drawn a gun, so the victim had drawn a gun and fired at least twice, missing Will, and that Will had beaten them on the head with a hammer in self defense And the siblings back that up. Okay. It's just the whole hammer part. Right is a little violent, right? And also weren't there multiple Contusions if I must. Yeah. And you know what, there weren't bullet holes anywhere. Yeah. Because you'd be like, why don't just immediately get the cops and be like, it was self defense. See, there's a bullet hole and a bullet hole And It's like, Oh, there aren't any. That's right Okay, that's not going to work Um, and so There are a lot of holes in the story, except there aren't any holes. I was like trying to think out That was great And the other thing that's weird is the day after this happens, Marie had tried to pay for some hosery, Hosierie. Hosierie. Either one. Hosier. In a department store with a check from McNutt's checkbook. So that's not great. Why like just don't do that. She said I could. Right. Right So thirdly, the day after McNutt first went missing, someone asked Fay, one of the sisters, where he was, and she answered that he had gone fishing. He He's gone fishing, which is like and then also They drive out of town when they leave for Los Angeles in McNut's car. Not the best plan. You're flippant They're stealing his stuff. Yeah They still have all their furniture. Right And their hammer. It's the beginning of the Beverly Hill Billies. Shit So despite all these holes, the fact that McDonalds the McDonald's tell a story of self defense and that they say that it was actually the brother who did the deed anyways, who wasn't here, all through McDonald's, Marie Faay and Ted are found not guilty. Oh, but they're all re arrested and recharged the next day for forgery and for trying to pass check for stealing the car. Just for doing stupid. Im not telling you how to commit a crime. You shouldn't commit a crime Don't comm it a crime But Right. When you do, Right Leave the car in the guy's garage, right In the end, the sisters are found guilty and Ted is found not guilty. So the sisters appeal their cases, they're let out of jail on Bond, which is a big mistake because they fucking's good atle. Im gonna told you that. Now there's like three kids in a coat. they're like, We gotta get out of here, put that coat on is this, apoken detective is sent to track them down, which like had to be the most exciting like thing of his life, right? It's on his suspendnder. It's on his coat. than a raincoat over it. Hey. Yeah. Like how fun. He's sent to track her track them down. He tracks Fy to Tampico, Mexico. So this is like exotic for him now. He's living his life. I mean this is up. But probably a little bit jarring to his system. Sure Yeah, you got to think He finds her at I'm just picturing the fucking noir movie in my head right now It's just so good. I'm never gonna write it He finds her at a dance hall known to be popular with American women called Madame Rossy's. Yeah. Take me there in nineteen nineteen, twenty. Back then, the Italians were even more potent than they are now. You know what I mean? Madam Rossi was doing it.es But as soon as the detective walks into the dance hall, he overhears a woman say, quote, I'm tired of it. I'd give anything to get out of this place and go back home. end quote. And he turns around and realizes it's actually Fe, the person who's tracking. He walked right into Yeah. So she doesn't even wantan to be there. And he like to do that voice for the rest of the story, just FYI He buys her a drink and eventually gets her to identify himself. Now it's terrible. So he buys her a drink and he's like, you're fa, right? And she's like, yes, I don't want to be here e can't Spocane police can't get fae extradited. and it's not until months later when she willingly crosses the border into Beaumont, Texas. because that she's finally arrested. So they just like waited her out in nineteen twenties, Mexico and to come home. and it worked. Yeah. She serves three years in prison in Walla Walla and then moves to St. Louis, where she lives tall but relatively quiet life. I don't even know that was her anymore. Wn't she the tall one? They're both the tall one I think Marie I can't remember. No Can you expect us to remember these things? Listen In nineteen forty four, twenty five years. Oh, twenty five years. I know I, which is Which is how many in today's year? forty seven In nineteen forty four, twenty five years after William McNutt's murder, the Spokane County Sheriff talks about the efforts to find Will and Marie because they never found those two siblings to bring them to justice, saying, quote, The search has gone from Havanah, Cuba to Petersburg, Alaska, but we haven't caught up with Will It's also like you guys had so much fun looking for them in Havana, Cuba and Petersburg, Alaska.ation Vacation Exactly They say we were reasonably sure he was in Havana in nineteen twenty four, but the Cuban authorities failed to arrest him saying that he wasn't the right man. That sounds passive aggressive. In nineteen twenty eight, we had reason to believe he was running whiskey between Key West and Havana, but again, he slipped away before he was arrested, end quote Will and Marie are never found. Oh and never brought to justice And that is the story of the infamous McDonald's siblings and the sad technically unsolved murder of Will McNutt. Wow Well Mcnight Here he is Terrible photo. sorry. And that's from his Instagram, you're saying Yeah, he's got that filter on it. Theace Faceime. I love the historical ye. What? adies and gentlemen. Thank you so much. You got it. It's that email we were talking about earlier. They're still out here. Oh that Okay Great job. Thank you. It's fun to do historical. Yeah and imagine and think about all the things you don't know about from history. Yeah. Like all all the things that are lost Also, you were talking about like the story started in nineteen nineteen, and I immediately was like, that's from Laura Ingelswilder time Just anything any W is Lower. I don't even know. A eighteen li eighteen se eighteen seventy Laura, are you here tonight That'd be incredible. What a guest spot. 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We say, where did he get those sunglasses? Why can't I have those sunglasses? And on and on What I learned when I was writing this cold open is that did you know, and you probably told me this, so the answer is probably yes, that his name the fake name that the man actually did gave was Dave An Dave You can know that. It's a DA man named five one hundred episodes you guys. ten years orn it was Dan Listen, we try to make it worth your money buying these tickets by showing you all the mistakes that get cut out of the m episode. That right. The beauty of the live show as you go see, its own natural. The extra fuck ups. Okay, so that's episode two seventy two drag alongs if you want to catch up. But here are the cliff's notes, if not. So the day before Thanksgiving, nineteen seventy one, a man using fake named What did What name did you say? Dan. You were right You're right rel. Yeah.. Wow, that feels great. inccredible job. You really did it. You take it where you can get it.. Dave, because they didn't have Dave in the seventies today. No, not at all. There was not No Dave.. Okay. He gets on the two hundred thirty five flight from Portland to Seattle. shhortly after takeoff, he passes a folded note to the steartist sitting behind him. They were called that then I think the McNuts are here. Oh no. wrrong cell recipe Oh, o they are Brong side. So Dan passes a note to the flight attendant sitting behind him, and she immediately takes it and puts it in her purse without reading it. That's right. But she thinks he's hittden on her. Go away, gross man in sunglasses. This again. Lillian Sovern says, Miss, you better have a look at that note. I have a bomb She locks eyes with him. They fall deeply in love. Actually, what he does is he opens up her bag and he shows her what to her looks like four sticks of dynamite with wires attached. He then dictates his demands to her as she takes notes And as he dictates those notes, they lock eyes and fall madly in love. Sorry, you see, this is how I waste time in the morning. I drink a bunch of coffee, and then I'm like, this is hilarious. It's like, it's not though The flight attendant brings this list to the cockpit. The pilot is apprised of the situation. He radios CTAC air traffic control saying he needs two hundred thousand dollars, two sets of parachutes to be ready when they land in Seattle, and that when that money comes on booard, all the passengers will be released. and they are, the plane is refueled. They head back toward Mexico Dan demands that they lower the staircase in the plane. The pilot says that's bad for flying. He says, I don't give a shit. I know you can do it. Then they do it. He jumps out of that fucking plane. you think he wanted to do like a like a frrank Sinatra like step kind of a step thing I did it my well sunglasses fly out H Okay. Oh, there he is. There he is. We've been talking about him this whole time. And actually now those sunglasses are back in fashion. And I just want all the ladies in here that have those real narrow cross sunglasses, I want to let you know that much like eyebrow blindness from the twenty ten s, you're going to regret those sunglasses. It's not that you're not gorgeous. It's just that they're so fucking stupid looking. Okay Let Grandma tell you about fashion He jumps out somewhere near Mount Stain. Helens. he is never seen again. Some people think that that man is Richard Floyd McCoy. I covered that in episode four hundred thirty eight. Whise, They're all these plugs for our shows. We wish you guys would listen. They're like bees literally can't do more for you But I tell you all of that tonight because there was a story in two thousand eight that very much, we can say, parallels the story of DB Cooper. It's another heist that happens up here, veryer similar, someome call it the modern day DB Cooper case. This is the story of the two thousand eight Robbery by DB Tuber What Yeah I believe we haven't talked about? Nevermind. What? The louve up now. The looouve, yeah. Oh yeah. The heist. The chainsaw heisted. I don't want tona talk about it Well, I do w to talk about that. I did it. It turns out I did it. Why did you do that in between tour dates? I can't, ye. you shouldn't talk about it. No. Okay How is that Tiera though? Oh my amazing bs What the idea that you're just gonna steal the most famous like jewels in the world and then just be like, sure, I'll sell them down. and Yeah, I'll sell them. Someone's gonna wear this crown a fucking debutant ball I don't know. I can probably get fifty grand for this thing. Did you notice my pearls? They are gorgeous. Clutching my pearls everyone Clutch those, getet ready because there's a of clutchy moments in my story The sources for that Maron used for this story are the twenty fourteen episode of twenty twenty about it entitled The Almost Perfect Robbery. a twenty ten article by writer David Kushner for GQ entitled The All American Bank Heist and write ups attributed to the FBI's Seattle division, someome great writers in Seattle's FBI. So that's weird. Read their substdat. I'm sorry, I keep doing this, but one of my main sources for was Jim Kirersner. Do think they're brothers? Do you think they're like This is David Kushner, then never mind. broth And then you're like, wait, it's Dan Kushner Brother So to tell the story, first we have to meet the man that it all centers around, the DB Cooper of the story, if you will. He is not a mystery man. His name is Anthony Curio, and he is known as the quote Glden boy of Monroe, Washington For sure. sure. Yes for all you out of towners. Seriously You guys, it's fucking adorable. It's so cute. Keep that up while I tell you all this information.. It's a small town on the outskirts of the Seattle area, population just under twenty thousand according to the twenty twenty census. you know for its one hundred fifty foot steam stack, which is the last remnant of the Carnation milk condenser plant that burned down in nineteen forty four. There it is. There she is under mysterious circumstances or just burned around. We don't talk about the carnation milk condensory b fire round Monroe. Okay It's also the hometown of professional wrestler Yukonn Eric And The Stephven Ray Morris impersonator Benson Boone. Yay,. The pride of Monroe. The prride of Monroe. Cute. He used to go smoke cigarettes on top of that smokestack. And dream of a day he could have a mustache I like I would move there right this very moment if you asked me to. ye. I mean No, it's terrible. Is is it the worst. You' You're saying no. Don't you dare talk Is the. Is it the Orange County of Washington? No worse. They're jealous because they don't have a creamery smokestone. And they never have. Okay ry. You're not moving there We've all decided you're not going to Okay, so Anthony's born and raised in Monroe, hisis parents run a very successful landscaping business. His dad is a former football star from the University of Idaho. basically Hm, at least Basically, everyone in Monroe knows the Cursecio family. And like his father, Anthony, when he gets to high school, he becomes a football star. I think the boys don't have a choice when their dad is a footballar. Unless of course get a nose ring and then oh my God time to join a band. So he's basically This guy is basically the jock from every teen movie. He's good looking, He has tons of friends. He's the star wide receiver on the Monroe high foootball team. And just to be extra corny, he is dating Emily, the capaptain of the cheerleading squad.. They're never dating the cute ner G him. Did you see Anthony Curscio at the Keagar last night Oh my go. It's yeah, it's just one hundred percent what you think it would be. I you know, it's funny because I don't know if we're like mad at him yet because I don't know the story. So I don't think you have to be mad at him. Okay, great. Unless of course you're jealous of his beautiful face I shirt. Okay When he graduates, Anthony is offered an athletic scholarship to the University of Idaho, where his father went. That part gave me a stomach ache It's all going so well for Anthony, but the pendulum must always swing. She must always swing too much coffee And then I wrote one day you're up the next day you're down. That's life. That's called overwriting. That's called Overstaying your welcome in the joke. So He makes it to his sophomore year in college and then one day at practice He hears, o, sorry ry. He tears his ACL, but I was saying he hears himself tear his ACL Oh, I bet you can't hear it. Like a pop.. And then a fizz And then basically for all intents and purposes, his football career is over. What happens is that while he is on the mend, he's prescribed Vickin for the pain. But he can't play, of course. And then he's hanging out with his friends and he's going to more parties than he usually goes to. and then the balance shifts. He will later say, quote, I was depressed that my whole identity wrapped around sports was gone Now I was just a student. I latched onto the painkillers and within a few prescriptions, my football dream was gone. The pills had me. Ouch.if. Yeah. There's so many J innocent people that had an injury and their doctor was like, Hey, would you like heroin and a pill? And they're like, oh, I guess so. I mean you're the doctor. Yeah Bom. Yeah. That was horrible Did someone just yell that happen to my dad? What's going on Okay, so this is the early two thousands. Where did they say that was my dad, like the doctor? L their dad was the doctor. We can't talk about your dad right now. I'm sure he was a wonderful physician, but we have this fucking show to wrap up. I'm only on page four, Maureine. Okay So when Anthony's Vicidin prescription runs out He gets desperate. He steals pills out of his friends's medicine cabinets, who hasn't He forges prescriptions, which depending on the drug can be a federal crime. So everyone in out, yes And then inevitably, he turns to street drugs. And then soon his addiction pivots to cocaine And I know what you're thinking. He's gonna get into day trading and wearing Patagonia fleece vests. This all the time Straighten it out, right Before he goes that far, Anthony admits he's powerless over that white devil cocaine. And with the love and support of his family, he gets help with his addiction and he does get sober. He graduates from college. Yeah S.. That's a hard thing to do. Hell yeah. When you're on a combination of Vicidin and fucking cocaine dude Jesus Rush. That's the first time I took pills. I was like, never take these again. These are this is too easy, this is too good H So never did. And I never did another drug again. Mommy Then he graduates from college, I said that, moves back to Monroe, and marries Emily his high school sweetheart.. So even though Anthony's dreams of the NFL are over, his real life is very good. H and Emily have two children. They earn a good living, flipping houses. What if this was actually the secret story of Chip and Joanna Gaines? I was just Oh my Godd, like how bring it up. ike I would like them so much. So the curscios They drive NS cars, they have a vacation home. On the surface, Anthony has earned back his status as Monroe's golden boy. Isn't it a big of a deal to be a golden boy if it's in Monroe? Apparently, what you're telling us is it's not Again, being the Glden boy, he gets to go touch the milk condenser steam stack whenever he wants to. Amazing There it is. Sch it B two thousand eight hits and the housing market crashes and Anthony's entire livelihood goes out the window because as I said, pendulum, She wail swang. He picks up work with his parents' landscaping business. It's not enough to cover his bills. Before long, his family's financial problems are so enormous that they are actually in danger of losing their house. horrify nightmare. I recommend starting a podcasts with your friends. really helped. work for us Oh, thank you guys, by the way. That was you.. Thank you You did it so crazy. I didn don't have a house to lose, ye D You're like, I did that Uh Okay, so With all those external stressors, Anthony relapses, but secretly, Emily has no idea He He's only in his late twenties. Oh wow. So he, you know, he thought he was going to live this life. and now it pivots and he's making the best of this life. And then of course, outer life goes, watch watch your stepfriend. Right. You guys don't start worrying until you're like Hard forty eight, you know? Yeah. Like ear yeah, right? Yeah. There's plenty of chances to do all the things this guy's about to do. It is wild. Okay So He's now to losing everything to his drug addiction for a second time And he finds himself sitting in the parking lot of a jack in the box. Th these are dark times. Yeah How many times have you sat in your car quietly? in a fast food parking lot like, I'm father, this is it. I'm father this is fucking This is rock bottom. ye. And when you're in that situation, I recommend a sourdough, Jack because it's simple. It's clean The flavor profile is very satisfying, but you don't have to think a lot about it. No lettuce. I fucked up the other day. There's a jack in the box near our office and I was starving after we recorded. And I went through the drive through It was the biggest mistake. Did you go crazy with that like dollar meal or something where you're Because I didn't know what I wanted because I was starving and I wanted to shove something my face and eating a burger in the car isn't gonna work so can I guess? Yes. Chicken stripps Chicken nuggets. like not even good, like not even close to real chicken Yeah though I mean stop it. my God.'re out of fucking good. The tacos are like you get to open a little piece of foil and it's like high school. Yeah. It's like a cracker. It's like a taco cracker. Yeahw. A taco cracker With grease poured into it. It's like they cook them and they open them back up, and they're like, get the orange grease and drip it in. And the leather's lettuce, so it's healthy. There is lettuce, but it's hot lettuce. And that is a brave choice. It's a brave culinary choice. It was good. When we start our cuisine podcast, we are going to destroy Okay. Reset to where we are. This is right This is Jack in a box parking lot. Dark Kight of the soul Anthony is angry for what's happening with the economy and his family. He's angry at the banks. He's right But he's also angry because he's on drugs. And he is desperate to keep feeding his addiction at all costs So what's going on inside his drug addled mind as he sits in his car in the park Jack and whes Jack in the box parking lot Is all that, you know, whose fault is it? I'm so angry. And as he's staring out, He watches a brinks truck pull up in front of the Bank of America across the street. He watches the Banks guards hop out transporting big bags of cash into or perhaps out of, I'm not sure, allegedly the bank. And this gets him thinking, he thinks if I just had one of those bags, all of my problems would be solved And here's a quote he later gives about this moment in his life. He says, quote, I was fucked and I thought I could fix everything. I just wanted to be the hero again So If you right now, your only elective in high school is football Go ahead and take a music class Oh how about some fun writing classes? Just see, J a see. Let's have several safety nets, please. So when Anthony gets home, he Googles the phrase arrmored truck bro. Oh man He was just trying to get a little information. Sure. The more he among us has't. Everyone has that in their search history.. But only a few of us have done it. That's right Im I wish we had her phone so we could just read each other our most recent Google search hist. Oh God. Mine is definitely which one is stronger, Vicadin or whatever the fuck other thing he was taking. somethingomet like that. Not for yourself. What? No, not at all Not in the least Binince comes out here with both our phones and we just like do it. Reado. So the more he reads, the more certain he is that he can pull one of these off. He goes for some light research to actual planning mode almost immediately. He's going to rob the Branks guuards as they deliver money to that bank of America in Monroe So what he does is he begins to case the bank in disguise. He puts on some generic landscaper clothing because it's family business. But he also then goes and somehow gets some mortician wax, the ones that morticians use to make people's faces look normal when they're for the viewing. Yeah, yeah yeah. And he uses that to obscure his facial features because don't forget He's the golden boy of Monroe. Right Yeah Everybody. Thank. All right. the morticans right underneath that smokestack just directly beneath it So he starts casing the building. He studies the entrances and exits, the number of staff When the Brinks delivery and pickup schedule is, the escape any escape routes, he gives it the full stathum. Um And then I wrote here a little exchange Do you want to do the first lady and I'll be the second lady? I'm first? You're first. And do a lady. Joan Was that the Glden boy of Monroe? I saw casing the B ofA today? No Mureen, don't be crazy. That was just a reanimated corpse from the funeral home pretending to trim a hedge sometometimes there's too much time to work on these stories So Anthony decides that the best bet for hit for his escape route is to run out of the bank across the busy intersection and down into the local creek Okay. That's drugs in action, my friend. Oh yeah Run it by someone. Drugs have the worst ideas. I mean, wild So he believes that if he could just stash a jet ski down in the creek, But We're getting into the territory of your friends, the bartender, The bar's closed. You've done some lines, and now you're just coming up with ideas Mm. Hm Hhhm. The problem is that the creek is less than two feet deep, right. Right Oh. there she is. There she is. It's not jet ski territory in any way, shape or form. No No. Gorgeous though. Yeah, truly beautiful. It's time of year So He's going steal the cash, run across the intersection in the light of day, climb down into the creek, get on his waiting jet ski, ride downstream a short way with stolen bags of cash, ditch that jet ski, climb back up out of the creek to a nearby road to his pre parked getetaway car and drive away. it It's fun, it's easy one gets hurt. But when Anthony tests this plan out with an actual jet ski in that actual creek, he does a dry run, run A lightly moist drum because there's hardly any fucking water Yeah That's when he realizes that the plan isn't going to work. doesn't do it and that's the end of the story. I wish it were. Instead of coming up with a new plan Anthony spends upwards of seven hours a day for several weeks dredging the creek to make it deeper so he can ride a j ski on it. Yes he does You can say no all you want That's what happened. There shoes You can't refuse I mean you might as well like ice it over and fucking ice skate away like for. likeike Snoopy at the beginning of the Christmas speespe. It's just like now I money. It's Yeah. okay. No, okay. We don't want to like, I don't want to, you know, he needs some help. That is It's great to have big ideas and get creative and try to push the boundaries, but you can't change the way fucking' water works. You just that's not on you When he's done with his one man civil engineering scheme, Anthony does another practice run with the jet ski in the creek This time, he hits a big rock. So it's not just about getting the bottom lower, it's also then there's the other things in the creek that are difficult.oney. Now he knows he has to let go of the jet sky pl He goes back to the Jack in the Bx parking lot and he cries into a taco And then it goes back to the drawing board And then he finally sees it so clearly He needs to swap the jet ski for an inner tube 'Ccauseuse there was an interview without and And I was like, don't mention. Yeahcause there's no fucking way. It way just was like in that photo. Yeah. It was like waiting like a spectre back there. Yeah Do Oh She is That's the real one he actually used He literally like took his daughter's inner two No and was like Qickly let Daddy rob the brains Oh my God, he like straight up lazy rivered that shit out of. Holy shit. He la He lazy rivered it And you know what he did too. I don't know if it's right here where it happened, but he actually nailed a wire from like one tree where he first ran into the all the way down two hundred yards to where he planned to come up out. So he was like doing this. I mean, that makes sense, but it's also like fingerprint, fingerprint, fingerprint. Yeah over and over again. Or just like Just run down the goddamn block at this point Now you're just kind of partying by yourself in the creek Yeah, Or at least get a stoner friend to do it with you. Like that's what creeks are for. Right Yeah So at this point, Anthony's been planning the robbery for several months. He's almost ready to pull the trigger But he has a couple final tasks. The first order of business, he has to stash some supplies, including that inner tube under a nearby dumpster So that's he basically is going to squirrel away, very druggy. He's going to squirrel away all the things he needs as he does this thing When he does that, he is it is the action is witnessed by a fifty three year old man named Alan Dean Alen himself, this is Alan. This is from Alan's interview on twenty twenty. Oh wow So you can go watch that episode. So at the time, Alan is experiencing homelessness and he had been since the nineties when a heart condition made it impossible for him to continue working as a carpenter. And since that time, he'd been panhandling around Monroe And his plan was to save up enough money to get a car so that he could drive back to the east coast where his children live because he had a family. He's a sharp guy. And by his own telling, he stays sharp. By buying two newspapers every day, he reads them cover to cover, and then he does the crossword puzzles everyvery single day without fail. When he sees Anthony roll up into that dumpster and hide the inner two. Oh wow, yeah. along with a huge can of mace, a wig, and other suspicious items Allan puts two and two together and he yells over to Anthony. I'm ono you Oh no. I've seen this before. Inner tube wig mace. I know what you're doing. Bank. Oh man It's also a very fun thing to yell at a stranger anyime. Just like yes Right accross the street, they're walking this way. You're walking that. I'm on you Of course, Anthony is very rattled by this because he's doing something he's planning something illegal and he's on drugs. He doesn't know Al He's never seen him before, but he just ultimately brushes the comment off. He decides to leave all the items where they are because Even though someone's onto him, that's fine. It doesn' me as a snitch And he's probably just so focused on like me and that inner tube and the wire. it's going to be amazing. Yeah He will later admit that he underestimated Allen, thinking, quote Well, maybe if he's homeless, maybe if he's been drinking, maybe he won't remember my description Anthony could not be more mistaken. Allen will later say, quote, He probably thought just an old tramp. He ain't gonna do nothing. He ain't gonna write my tag number down wrong. Game over Oh my God, wrrong game over This is Alen's time to shine. Game over. I'm ono you. Yeahike he's got them all. Yeah, he does u So Alan Basically when he sees Anthony do all of this, he grabs his crossword pencil and he write downs Anthony's license plate number. Sit Meanwhile, Anthony's busy checking the last item off of his to do list. Hiring decoys What's that you say? What he does, and this is, I mean, here's the thing, all this energy and creativity He really made a plan and he really got something going. was for bad reasons There's a lot of creativity involved Andy's good looking. So let's defend him He posts a fake landscaping job on Craigslist under the name Clean Monroe Beautification proroject The ad claims to pay twenty eight fifty an hour. D. You know how much that is in today's money? It's probably less actually Yeah. Right Yeah It's less and you can't get an abortion. Did you not know A very nice wage during the Great Recession.'s a weird line Do you w want to guess some? Yeah? Okay I'm gonna go thirty nine, fifty three. forty two damn it. You know now I'm on your side. It's not fun. I'm saying, let's get rid of this. It's so hard though It's fun to guess. Okay, about fifteen people respond to this fake job listing. Anthony follows up with the start time of eleven AM on Tuesday, september thirtieth. He says they need to report to the strip of pavement between the jack in the box and the Bank of America. Y I meet my friends there all the time. It's so gorgeous. Have you been to Monroe? It's so gorgeous. I can't keep turning around. I truly can't. Just give the guy one second he wasn't even paying attention I'm really sorry, I won't do it again. Okay He tells them they need to wear a yellow safety vest, a blue hat, a blue shirt, a face mask, and safety glasses. I mean, these people This is the twenty twenty episode reenactment of what that looked like. No joke. 'Cause they all have the same adidas on. Wait, this could be AI Oh shit. No, it's not it's not. Okay. Wow, okay. I mean, this is kind of brilliant. It's getting right? Yeah. So here's what happens. So they're all standing there. They're waiting for the boss to show up to tell them what to do. And what they don't know is the boss is already there because there's this landscaper that's over in front of like the bushes in front of Jack in the box, that's spraying you know, pesticides or something horrifying. Round he's just rounding up all of Jack in the box and He's dressed in the exact same clothes, but he's wearing that wig that he loves so much that he had stashed away att eleven o five AM when the Brinks truck rolls into the Bank of America parking lot Anthony drops the sprayer, he grabs the can of Mace that he's stashed nearby and makes a beeline for the Brinks guards who are on their way into the bank carrying a bag of cash that has four hundred thousand dollars inside And that's around six hundredars in today's money. And that's the actual, this is the spot. this is the real crime scene right here.. So according to reports Anthony sprays the guards with enough mace to quote stun a thousand pound grizzly bear. What do you think you've been making an hour them But Okay. it it feels so high risk. Yeahah you know, hopefully they make they make more than twenty eight fifty an hour or whatever the other thing was.. Of course, the guards scream in pain They drop the bag, Anthony grabs it and he runs across the busy intersection and down into the creek Even though he's wearing a wig and a face mask, many people watch him flee in the direction of the creek, and he's also almost hit by a truck. Yeah care Y Authorities are called and when the two Monroe City detectives, Detective Barry Hatch and detective Tim Buzz Bzell arrive ure Buz's family is here tonight. U When they arrive on the scene, it's filled with fifteen confused day workers standing around wondering what the hell is going on. All dressed exactly like the description of the. No yeah, it's really fucking brill. It's so smart. It's so smart U Do I get my thirty bucks or what? Yeah? Yeah. Um d to do So before long, the detectives have collected witness statements describing their perp as tall, thin, and running with the Brinkx bag under his arm, quote, like a football. Sure. Like a golden boy would When they inspect Wood Creek, they find the abandoned black and yellow inner tube with a picture of a bee on it about two hundred yards down the creek, along with a pair of discarded safety glasses, a wig, and a face mask The face mask has saliva on it. They process the mask as DNA evidence. But there are no matches in the system, right. I can't believe you're on Anthony's side. Guys, Emily is here tonight. Ladies and gentlemen fucking badass. No matches in this system because Anthony does not have a record.. So this is when detectives, Buzz and Hatch learned that they should meet Pearl McNutt They learned that three weeks earlier, a tipster had reported what were referred to as robbery type items under a dumpster near the bank, along with the license plate number of the person who put those items there. Man. And when the detectives run that license plate number, they traced the car to the Curcio family. It's so so quick. Yeah, you know. G give them a day with that money You know? Well Yeah he gets a couple days. Okay. Because before they go talk to the family, they want to confirm the tipster story and it takes a little time tracking down Alan They basically ask around town. you know it's word of mouth, you know who the guy is, whatever. And they finally find him. And when they first walk up to him, he yells, It's about time you got here And then he said, I'm ono you, but real quiet, real scary. Beause he is. ' he is fully. He actually had read all about the robbery in the newspaper and he was like, I'm waiting for you to fucking come and talk to me. I know exactly what happened in this robbery. Amazing. fools. Okay. Meanwhile across town, Anthony cannot believe he is pulled off this big heist. what he actually did was he ran back up out of the creek and he walked through an apartment complex. he stole a shirt Like a white polo shirt that was kind of too small for him. And then he walked into a real estate office. And because he does house flipping, they kind of knew who he was. And of course, the Cercio family is very known in Monroe. And so he was like, Hey, can I use your phone? My phone died. He calls his friend to comeick up pick him up, and that's his getaway car. But nobody really knows that that's what's happening Except for if they looked down, they would have seen that his shoes were wet Okay N'sot not the weirdest thing. Where's the money I'm sorry, I'm really worried about this money. Where's the big bag of money? He stashed it he love to stash it. Oh, I would never do that. No, I actually don't know if that's true. Okay. What if he was just kind of very casual holding it behind his back? But then that means he had to hold the phone like this and then dial with this hand We could work out every scenario Uh, o So Anthony can't believe it He takes the money. He pays off his biggest bills, he buys his wife a beautiful tennis bracelet and he invests in some bonds. No, that's not what happened I read that wrong. Anthony rushes off to Las Vegas with his friends and thirty thousand dollars in stolen cash. Oh my God. There he gambles away the money or a bunch of money. He hires a guide to get him and his friends into all the big clubs. I didn't know you could do that. He parties with women who are not his wife Among other sinful things, he attends an event celebrating the release of Jessica Simpson's latest single. Man Oh, you man. But he is not enjoying himself because this is actually the irony of being on drugs and all of this stuff is you basically surround yourself and all the things you think are going to make you happy. and then you're miserable and then you're very fucking confused. At one point, he's super drunk. he's in like the you know, the place they stay in the hangover, that crazy huge like penthouse Sweet ye. They're in like one of those. He's like crying in the shower fucking this step where you're like, u oh, someone better go talk to her And then he like comes out and he tries to recover, and then he does a thing where he tells his friends, I can jump over this glass coffee table and they're like, donon't do it. and he does it, and he breaks his fucking elbow Wait seriously? Yes. I'm just from the hangover. Oh, sorry, no, no, this is real. Oh what? Yeah o raab. Okay. Yeah. Wow. Okaykay. He basically goes back home and he tells of course he walks in with this fucking like his arm in a sling. Emily's pissed. She's like, where have you been? He basically she suspects he's using drugs again. She's been his girlfriend since they were in high school. She knows this man and she knows what he's doing, but he tells her he's coming to some money after pulling off a really lucrative real estate deal and that it's fine now and everything's going to be okay. So she knows it's not, but she's just like at least he's back and he's alive and you know we'll go from here But she has no idea that the Bink thief who's going viral on the internet at this point is her husband. And when someone calls into a local radio show and refers to him as DBTuber, the nickname is set super because of the entertain Bon I thought it was like two, the second. DTuber, DTuber. Who came out adads, rightight? That's brilliant. Yes Yes. you wantan to go on the rest of this tour with us? This is what we need. Okay. I'm almost there. Got it What Anthony doesn't know is that now not only are detectives buzz and hatch Buzz Buz and hatch tailing him, but the FBI is too Because of course, robbing a Brink's truck is a federal crime. One afternoon, they're both, I guess, surveilling Anthony's movements, and they watch as he tosses a gatorade bottle into a public trash can. They go grab it, hoping it contains DNA that'll match that saliva that was found on the discarded face mask in the crik. When it's proven to be a match, Buzz and Hatch prepare for an arrest So on november third, two thousand eight, about a month after the Brinks truck robbery, Anthony Curscio was taken into custody in a target parking lot. This is the part where I was having a great time for the rest for the beginning of this story. and then it changes for me. He reportedly told the arresting officers, This is slander. Do you know who my father is Oh man, see, you gotta shut your fucking mouth That's his mugs shot. That's Anthony Do you know who my father is? And it's like the question, Anthony is, do you know who you are Ryant in his face. ate As of last month, a target boycott over their DEI rollback has cost the company over twelve billion dollars In market value Telve billion dollars works vote with your mother fucking wallet Yeah Stop letting these people ruin everything It was our third space. Tar When I went home to Petal Loma for the holidays, me and my sister would just go hang out in target and we would see everyone we knew Yeah. It was like reunions in the makeup isle and shit. and it's fucking ruined. What's nice though is no one's in the target in Pedaluma anymore They just don't go. I love it. No one goes. That's great It's great. You're not allowed to pretend that you're super DEI until that motherfucker gets into the office and suddenly you're like, Ohh, no, no, no, we don't do that. We don't have to do that anymore. G shit Sorry Can we please focus on true crime Is a true crime though. That's the craziest part When Anthony's arrested, he has seventeen thousand dollars in cash on his person It takes eight members of the Monroe pololice Force nearly four hours to hand count all of that cash. Oh. They have to keep starting over. Yeah come in here and tell us the score to the game. I're trying to fucking count? thought money was so dirty. I bet. Well, you know what's funny? When he went home out of the crk, when his friend dropped him off, he went in and he dried a lot of the money from the crk in his own dryer 'ause it was soaking wet from being down there. Okaykay, this isn't breaking bad. This is looking crazy So Anthony pleads guilty, He winds up going to prison for six years He's released in twenty thirteen, having also completed a drug treatment program, he and Emily eventually reconcile. And once he gets his family back, he hits the public speaking circuit to warn kids about drugs and crime and tearing your ACL B I bet that slipped in there too. Yeah. Alland Dine winds up getting the reward money for his tip We don't know how much that was. But it's enough to buy a car. And according to writer David Kushner for GQ, Allan plans on finally hitting the road to get back to his family. It goes without saying that addiction is brutal. and while it doesn't excuse Anthony's actions, it puts those choices into perspective a little bit. Dredging the Creek is beyond pale. I don't care how many lines of Coke you've done. I mean, that's some like gummy salad confession. You know what I mean? I just watch the most fucked of gummy salad confession like things I did on drugs. and like that would be on that list. sure I dredged the local creek and ruined I ruined the entire ecosystem of our local creek, and I brought Nerd's gummy clusters Salad, salad But here's the thing, Anthony has always been very candid about everything that he's done. He actually was quoted as saying, I had justified that I was doing this for my family. But you know what Someone that is doing this for their family wouldn't have gambled with them. You should never gamble with something you are not willing to lose. And that's the story of one of the most audacious heists in the Seattle Mro history The DB Tuber Brinks Lbrary There he is Wow. Now he's saying, Do you know who my father is but in a really nice voice Wow That's incredible. I've never heard that. Right? mee either. DV Tuber is the funniest thing I've ever heard. DVTuber. Yeah.'s we can't let go of Cin radio. We must protect Cin radio. All right. Sould we get home? we up Wh It's me from before Oh I forgot to read that email Oh you guys talking about Jack in the box? littleittle gu It's appropriate that place killed four children in nineteen eighty three. No says this whenever Jack in a box ges. I' just say, bet Dick's Driving never killed no kids. right T a man I'm gonna be over to that exerc sign. Okay, thank you baby Every single time Jack the Box comes up gets brought out. That's so Jenx. Yeah it was a very disturbing time. But does he not like it? Is that his argument against? No, I think you just will think about it all the time. Yeah. That's like when if people talk about if people talk about Taco Bell, then I have to talk about how they tested the meat and they found that it was majority sawdust And I didn't even pause. I think I went there two days later. was That sounds great. I must love sawdust and I must be a little fucking hamster because giveimm me that sawdust There was definitely a rumor when I was in high school and veganism was like super popular and I said that the jack in the box tacos, there was no actual meat in them. was like And so everyone was like, great. And I got a lot of those got real sick after that. I don't think that's true. anyway, here we are., hereere we are. It's time for you guys to tell us a hometown. We'll very quickly tell you how to do it Even though we know you know Now you have to listen to it. You can't be so drunk, you can't tell your own story. Please let it have a beginning, a middle and an end. Please, the ending is probably the most important. Don't use notes, you don't have to. you always know it. And finally local Oh please make it local. The rest of you hate it so much when it's not local So do we actually want to I'm gonna turn away and you can actually change I'm gonna turn away and you guys turn away too. Try to turn away. seeee if you can Oh my Godd, you want to pick No, you do it.. You got it. Last night it was amazing and you did it. Okay. foollowingate this. I hate this. reallyally looked into. Which was which person say here. Yeah. o, Yeahah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. perfect erous Sorry everyone else.