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No't know I meant to me where I'm just like, what am I doing? What is the intro to this fucking show We've only been doing it for ten. almost eleven. ten and a half now. ten and a half. We're over the ten year March. Jesus We have to stop looking back. We have to start looking forward to the next ten and a half years Why you go first? Why don't I? In full gratitude, I read you an email with the subject line serial killer dinner party. There we go now. Now we're back back on track. I recently came into a treasure of a story from my aunt. Let's call her E Aunt I was a longtime dental assistant of a small dental practice in the Sacramento area in the eighties and nineties. Represent One of their frequent patients was none other than the Dorothhea Puente. U Yep. It says Yp, to expllamations points. Imagine how thrilled I was to have my aunt regale me a murdderino with this thriller. So if you want to go listen to our Dorothhea Puinte episode, which of course I covered because we lived two doors down from her when I lived in Sacramento. That's right veryer late eighties, early nineties. What episode numberers that was so long? That was episode thirty seven. That was entitled Liminal Space. Okay, lookook for the rewind of that guys. Yeah Okay, so It goes back into this email saying, after frequent and when I say it, I mean myself. After frequent appointments, they became friendly. My aunt is a lovely warm lady who can chout it up with anyone. She even attended a dinner party at Dorothea's house Yep That house She said Dorothhea was an excellent cook The dinner table was set and Dorothheea's renters were all there except for one My aunt mentioned the empty plate, and she said Dorothhea stood up and opened the door just off the dining room to reveal a man passed out on the bed and said something to the effect of him sleeping it off My aunt said his head was hanging off the bed, but she assumed he passed out because she knew Dorothhea's renters were men often struggling with alcohol addiction Which is like the ultimate manipulation. Totally. You have people who it's indefensible because the worst is always assumed. Right. And the best of her intentions R They're the best victims because nobody takes them seriously. Right Yeah. Then it says, wasas he just passed out? Aunt I would wonder about this later. Fast forward to nineteen eighty eight, Dorothhea had an appointment and noticed my aunt wasn't her normal cheerful self. My aunt, my dad, and the rest of their seven siblings had just returned from burying their father in Oklahoma, and she was still grieving. When she explained this, she said Dorothhea grabbed her forearm with both hands and looked cl closely in her hores and said Everyone has to die sometime Chill, so chill. This says holy shit, right? Right? Yeah. I mean Also, it's the grabbing. that's the one, two punch intense Once the truth of Dorothhea's deeds were revealed to my aunt, she actually got subpoenaed to give evidence to the DA. Aunt E, who has the gift of Gab, definitely filled them in on what she knew. How could you not go over every minute detail? It's like gossiping on the stand. You're not gonna believe what she fucin said to me. She's like I was there partart of this whole nightmare. She grabed my arm. she grabbed my ar with her hand U And then it just says stay sexy and be leary of little old bees spepectacle ladies Heidi You know, what's so weird to me is that you can be a straight up serial killer and still be up to date on your dental claimings It happens in your mind that you're like, o, gott to go to the dentist Yeah becausecause they're gonna take care of themselves. their teeth, their comfort, their thing, but in their brain, the broken part is that they care about anybody else. It's just so weird to me that like you can have such horrible you actions and thoughts and still go do a normal thing like going to the dentist. And still have clean, fresh breath. Yeah I struggle going to the dentntist wring machine. I mean. Oase solved after twenty plus years My Dear Georgia and Karen, all cats, my time has come finally. You guys are rock stars and thank you for everything you've done for me over the years. I started listening in twenty eighteen and I can't begin to tell you how excited I am to finally have a solid story to share with you Okay, so here it goes In nineteen ninety eight, four teenagers in Medina, Ohio, about forty miles from where I live two suitcases off the I seventy seven Inside were human remains that had been dismembered. The victim's hands, feet, and head were missing which made identification impossible at the time. Remember I was like, well now we'll never know who it is. Yeah Back then. The case went cold for over two decades, your favorite Fast forward to twenty twenty three with new DNA technology, the victim was finally identified as Lawrence A. Drotliff After that identification, investigators uncovered something even more disturbing. His son, Larry Drrootliff, now eighty one, had been fraudulently collecting his father's social security benefits for years. tellelling people his father had simply moved away. Do you know this one I mean, it sounds familiar, but it sounds like the beginning. kids finding like severed human remains and suitcases. There's a couple that start like this. Yeah Eventually Larry confessed that he came home from work one day and found his father deceased in their home He then dismembered the body and disposed of it along I seventy seven in the suitcases Then he went to the dentist. No, just kidding.. orry I had to do I mean, that's the vib. That's that can vibe. L this is your to do list. Yeah, let me just stop on the way It's like The idea that it's like you're trying to explain this to any authorities is going, and then I dismembered my father. He was already dead So I thought There's something I can do now That only sounds normal to a complete psychopath. Yeah Here's where it gets absolutely insane. My stepdad told me he watched a documentary about this case a few years ago He's not usually in a true crime, but was interested in the story and the close location My stepdad is also in recovery.. And he said a few years back, he met a man at a meeting and started giving him rides pick him up from his apartment where he lived only about five minutes away from our home. Fast forward, this week, a mutual acquaintance sent over an article about this solved cold case. My stepdad read it and thought about that documentary he had watched years ago. He was amazed to hear that the case was reopened and solved. Then he realized the man he had been giving rides to and spending time with was none other than Larry Drrootliff. My stepdad said he always had a weird feeling about him. couldouldn't explain why. I mean, I have that about everybody But that is that thing where it's like when they say you look at somebody and they have like dead eyes or there's just absolutely no kind of chemical connection to them as a person. And it makes you like get all freaked out but on an animal level. Yeah. Kidding I don't feel about anyone friendly to everyone for some fucking reason. Anyways, stay sexy and always trust your gut, Sylvia Sylvia Great name, by the way, That's a good name. Also just like to have interacted in a very mundane way, like a dental way with a person. And a meaningful way When you're in in recovery with someone and in, you know, alcohol's anonymous, like you have a bond there that is beyond just acquaintances. Now I want to know what the ue details of the beginning of that story. Four teenagers in nineteen ninety eight finding a suitcase with that's some fucking horror movie On the highway And there's something so I don't know why it's like so much This is why like books placed in the nineties or before so much better. they didn't have cell phones. They had no way to contact anyone. They had to run to the fucking you know, gas station Yeah call the police. They had no like Yeah. No way to like reach out. It was just them and a fucking suitcase. Y That's where my book begins. And that's where your film kicks off Well, solved cold case You love it. We love those. I took one off the list of nine billion and' Getting clucks Summers for adventures, road trips and adding a whole lot of miles to your car. That's why it's worth stopping at Valvalinee inststant Oil change first. If you need an oil change, make the smart stop at Valvaline Instant Oil change before you hit the highway. 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Let's change the tone with a trash dog and trash Dag story.. It says, Hi, I'mM crew and feellllow Marinas. You recently asked for garbage dead or garbage dog stories, and I have a story with both. A couple of years ago, my husband and I decided to take our two young boys to Dallas to visit the Great Wolf Lodge. We were going for almost a week and needed someone to watch our two year old eighty pound golden retriever Nelly My parents were between homes at the time, living in a fifth wheel trailer And then in brackets, it says a towable RV Fine. Yeah we're fine. And it says after moving out of a four thousand square foot home And I thought maybe they'd really like to stay in our house to enjoy more room, AC, a washer and dryer, etcetera. The only stipulation would be that they had to take care of the dog. They agreed and saved us a fortune in boarding fees or so we thought. Oh Jesus. Yes. We love an or so we thought story. The day we left, my sweet mom decided to take the dog for a walk I'd instructed her to only use a leash if they went walking around the neighborhood and not on the dirt paths across the street, as our dog was used to running free on those paths. However, my nervous mom didn't want Nelly to get lost, so she put the leash on her and proceeded to walk her along the dirt path. She did the responsible thing. I'd do the same thing if it was someone else's dog. Right, you know? Sure. Okay. Just as they were finishing, Nelly spotted wildlife and took off after it without regard to the lady holding the leash. My mom was yanked hard and fell to the ground When she tried to get up, she found she couldn't as her hip was broken. Fucking Which unfortunately, she knew from experience. Oh no. She called out for help and tried to drag herself, but she had left her phone at home charging, and no one could see her from the road as she fell behind a patch of sage. Like nineteen ninety eight, all over again. right. Of course, the garbage dog thought my mom was on the ground to play and get kisses So she decided to slob her all over her mom while she cried out for help. Meanwhile, two hours later, we were at the airport when my ring doorbell notification went off. I opened the app and watched as a man informed my dad that his wife had fallen across the street and thinks her hip is broken Our wonderful neighbor heard something from his backyard, decided to investigate and found my mom lying in the dirt. unable to walk She got my dad and they called an ambulance. I repeatedly called to find out if she was okay, but I got no answer as both parents had left their phones at my house I finally asked another neighbor to track down our hero neighbor to find out what was going on. It turns out that my dad had watched TV through the whole thing, even though my mom was gone much longer than she said she would be. My mom was convinced that he wouldn't have come looking for her until morning, and based on his past record, she's probably right. She ended up getting her third hit replacement third hip replacement surgery. And the first for that hip, and Nelly ended up being boarded until we got home. My lucky sister also had two house guests for the next few months while my mom recovered as she didn't want to stay with us and chance my garbage dog injuring her further. Probably a pretty good call. Stay sexy and think twice before letting your garbage dad and osteoporosis riddled mom dog sit And' a photo of it. Bad girl. She didn't mean it. Bad girl, but very good girl. It was a squirrel. Look at that face. What' she supposed to do if a sirl comes? And that perfect perm Gorgeous. Yeah, that dog only wants what's best for all of us. Remember when my dad almost killed Elvis when we were on tour We live in like Australia and I had had a bag of all his pills in treats, you know in the little pill pockets. and it was his heart medication. had one a day. But my dad left the bag out. and so Elvis, of course chewed through it because he was a monster. and my dad was like, it's a cat. He doesn't do that. Yes he does All of his fucking heart pills. And Vince was like If you killed George's cat, she's never gonna speak to you again H was w. And somehow he powered through it He gots he was a dump truck. He was like he was three more years. Yeah. He' Frank Frank. Frank is on this no was this was fine Oh o, this is called I Wish I went to this High schoolool. Hi, Kevin, let's do this. Y I had been with my boyfriend for an unsettly long time before he thought to share with me two of the best stories I've ever heard, both of which occurred during the same period, the late nineties at his high school in Oregon. First is about a guy named Dandre who transferred from California and immediately became a model student and extremely popular Everyone thought Deandre was cool. Not only was he a basketball star at his old school in Beverly Hills, but he drove a flashy red camaro. and word quickly spread that his aunt was Diana Ross. That's always the rumor, especially if you go to a tiny white town. And there's someone of color shows up there and that's the stuff that happened toally I figured didn't mind it I drove a Camaro in my hand, Diana Ross. You show up and you're just like, that's right. You should absolutely kiss my hand. You're not denying it. Yeah. He got straight As, rose to the top of his class, and was genuinely nice and friendly to everyone. so much so that he was elected to student government In That winter, he was chosen to sing a prize solo at the Christmas concert Then two days later, choir practice was interrupted by the police bursting in to arrest him Turns out, Deandre wasn't seventeen after all. Oh, these are my favorite. Oh know These are my favorite But a thirty one year old convicted felon on the run Oh he's not just doing it for fun. He made like a fucking Drew Barrymore movie out of his fucking life. He's reversse twenty one jumps streeting it, He's like, I'm not the cops coming into your high school. I'm the robbers coming into your. He actually had attended this high school fifteen years earlier and remembered it as the happiest time of his life Hence his decision to hide out there for a while Okay, here's my next fucking book and how it starts. Like how sweet is that? But also, please write a book about any high schooler that is the best time of their life as high school. C Jesus. Get it all down while you can Crazily enough, he even had one or two of the same teachers, none of whom seemed to recognize him. The whole scenario is one of my absolute favorite movie tropes. so the fact that this actually happened in real life is a dream come true. That has to be made into a movie. Yes. And this is from Sarah and she put fucking links. is all this all checks out. She's like proof And then she writes, and then it gets even better. Oh At the same time, all caps at the same school, another popular student, this one student body president, was living out his own cinematic fantasy Tom was charming, smart, an Eagle Scout, a track star and homecoming king. Again, there's links. This sounds like bullshit, it's not He also happened to be a serial armed robber terrorizing local businesses throughout his senior year. When they get started that early, it's almost impressiveike those cheerleaders who were robbing a bank. Yeah. Itmost like I was just fucking ditching school to smoke cigarettes by that tree. I always felt like I had low like iron poor blood, you know what I mean? Like I always felt so tired and so you know what I mean? I think I need peanut butter or something like for energy I' planning at robbing a fucking bank. I can't finish like a book for a book report. I can't take change out of my mom's purse without her hearing me upstairs. I'm not fucking running into a bank. I can't sneak in or out of my house successfully ever How do I rob this bank And they're just killing it all over town. Oh there's so many things we could have done when we were younger Look at us now. This is the alternative. When he was finally caught, his accomplice was arrested, but Tom managed to escape to Mexico ide as a teenager, this is Oregon. Yeah. these aren't my remember the two guys from Grant High School? Kare I just looked it up. I think that this is your guy. What This is my guy. rememember the story of the two people in high school together that started, they were like, Yeah kings of the high schoolool, but they started robbing businesses. What episode is this small? It's so fascinating. This is from the live show Yeah. remember They covered at in Oregon. Yeah in Portland. Amazing. Yes. All right. I kept talking about the high school Yes, yes, yes. ye. no, never remember But only us in the Portland Mararinos know because we haven't done it yet. Sarah clearly wasn't there.. When he was finally caught accomplished a side note, my boyfriends sister tells me this arrest actually happened on prom night. You can't make this shit up Tom successfully h head out in Mexico for months, even going so far as to party with thirty seven of his high school classmates who traveled there for a graduation trip None of them tipped off the police. Man, there's no fucking rats. That's right. I remember this one. You had photos of them. All pieces like so many of these stories are similar baseline, but then those details come up and then you're like, oh wait a second. I'll just always remember the time that you were halfway through a story about Circleville. on stage live when I realized I had already told that story on drunk history and it just hadn't come out yet because I complete I blacked it out literally, right Yes because you were dra on drwn history. This's a good one. Anyways. None of them tiked off the lelease. Tom did eventually turn himself in months later after seeing himself on America's Most wantanted. I remember this. It still baffles me that it took my boyfriend over two years to share what has to be the coolest and most important thing ever to happen to him in his life. But knowing his proximity to these absolutely delicious tales made me love him even more than I already did I wouldn't say it's the only reason we're now engaged, but it definitely didn't hurt Stay Axian, don't trust the popular guy, Sarah Something in the water there.et away with it. Yeah. Someone opened a portal to Hell down in like the basement and just a bunch of weird energy came out that su. Eugene is just going crazy, Eugene, Oregon. Well, amazing and look forward to that episode in the future We can like future market that one Summers for adventures, road trips and adding a whole lot of miles to your car. That's why it's worth stopping at Valvaline Instant Oil change first. If you need an oil change, you make the smart stop at Valvaline Instant Oil change before you hit the highway. 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