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My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark

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From MFM Minisode 491Jun 8, 2026

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The minise, We're both the minise. But George is more so the minise today because today is Georgeia's birthday. This comes out on my birthday. I will be traveling through Italy Now do you have enough fancy shoes because I'll tell you what. Yeah. they do not tolerate shitty shoes over there. I am really nervous about my style and fashion there because good. I know that like especially Milan Yeah, I'll get Sted No you know what you'll get is it's the worst thing of anything. Yeah. It's worse than physical torture. It's worse than anything. It's just kind of like an Italian lady who'll go like this. and look down at your shoes. It happened to me on a ferry and I wanted to jump over the edge. But what about my hokas? No, no, no, hokas. You just look so terrifing. But you know what? if you bring your vintage clothes, bet they'll go crazy. Okay. 'Cacause you're wearing outfits and it looks like you care. I'm in a fucking dress to impress for sure. Do it Happy birthday and I swear to God, not as revenge. I got you something for your birthday this past weekend, but I was like, oh, your birthday episode won't be for a while. I have your birthday present in my car ' I forgot this was a minisode, so I'm gonna give it to you on Thursday. Great, then that gives me a couple days to bring mine in. Okay, what if it's the same thing. would be incredible I'm going first. Okay, Hi hi I's funny. I'm a year one listener, not quite day one, but I am from Western Australia and it always takes us a while to catch up to the rest of the world I work at Freemantle Prison, which is where I'm writing you from today on my lunch break, I promise. We don't give a shit. Do your thing Yeah getet paid if I can write us. Firstly, I would like to acknowledge the Woodjuck people as the traditional custodians of the land on which Freemantle Prison is located. I pay my respects to ancestors and elders both past and present and the ongoing connection between people, land, waters, and community I just listened to your rewent episode number ninety four, where Georgia covered David and Katherine Bernie bad. onene of the darkest. It' so bad. And decided it's high time I tell you about my fascinating and ghastly workplace Freemantle prrison was built by convicts in the eighteen fifties and operated as Perth's maximum security prison until its closure in nineteen ninety one.oh, haunted By ninety two, it had been converted into a tourist site and is now a UNESCO World Heritage listed building Our main cell block is in fact, the largest convict building in the southern hemisphere with an intact roof Okay, that's really specific. You have to qualify. UNESCO isn't messing around with like patios and stuff. Whver a fucking room got out of the roof whichich goes to show if you can be specific enough with your categorizations, you can be the best at something. That's right. So who's the other one without the roof though? That's really. Just one of those out courtyard prisons that are so popular. Wh know those open air prisons? Yeah, I think the prison from Papillon was open air. That sounds terrible. David Berey was a prisoner here from the time he was incarcerated to the prison's closure. As he was at risk of being harmed by other prisoners, three of the old death row cells were converted into a private ant for him J Just to keep him inside. Yeah, yeah. Side note, the death penalty was abolished in Western Australia in nineteen eighty four. The last person to be hanged at Fremantal prrison was Perth's most infamous serial killer, Eric Edgar Cook, AKA the Night crawler who went on a four year killing spree from nineteen fifty eight to sixty three and was finally executed in nineteen sixty four. How have we never heard of this and done it? We must have sure, both Like looked it up, but that's so early Yeah for a serial killer Totally Interesting and perth which is like so far away. Back to the Bernies. You may think a whole apartment sounds like a pretty sweet deal for David, but it's one of the dankest, most smelly, oppressive areas of the prison I usually say, if this place is haunted, the ghosts sure aren't interested in me, but that apartment gives me the hebie Jbs. One of our tour guides had a boyfriend who lived on the same street as the Bernieys back in the eighties. She remembers walking alone a sixteen year old girl to her boyfriend's house, seeing David Berie and waving hello, whichich is like that's exactly his type. Yeah. He seemed friendly enough Thank you for a decade of your dear voices in my earholes. If we can lock in another ten, that would be fab What do we s? Yeah. SSDGM, cat Thank you for listening for so long from so far away. And telling us about your essentially like a hometown kind of crossover story. Yeah. And like you work there, so it's cool. Tell us about your ramp. We like weird workplaces.. We've had Smithsonian people write in like tiny museums from tiny places in the world. Yeah. We also love the post office. Oh I love the post office haunted. I told a couple post office stories. I bet the post office is haunted somewhere. Here's the thing, everyveryone's had to work Everyone's got a good work story. Totally. What's happened to you at work? Totally. Okay The subject line of this email is random Hippie Crashes My mother's collollege graduation in seventies, California. Oh God, right? H have to pick that one. It says, Hey y'all My mom graduated from UC Santa Cruz, home of the fighting Banana sllugs In the late nineteen seventies. She graduated with a bachelor's in biology, continuing the theme of people on her side of the family studying botany. Wow. Which I of course ended by majoring in theater down here in Texas. And then it says, I'm smart, I promise. At her graduation ceremony, a local woman who didn't attend the school just lived in the area was known as the cosmic Lady She made her way on stage to the microphone and told the audience that the skylab was falling So what's hardard the was? That Skylab was falling, which was, well, I'll tell you about it in a second. And if they all concentrated together, they could keep it from falling A Spanish language professor calmly met her on stage, walked her down to the audience, and sat her next to him in the front row, keeping his arm around her for the remainder of the ceremony to keep her from ambushing the stage again And that man was Paul Onions, justust kidding. He wasn't. So here's the explanation. And the reason I know about Skylab so well. is because Skylab was a space station that was up in the right around nineteen seventy nine. It was like a field trip thing for you. you know what it was? I once played Liz Manelli in my friend's musical about the last night of nineteen seventy nine Halston's New Year's Eve party that they had at the What's the famous disco? Oh fifty four. Yeah, studio It was called Waiting for Studio fifty four and it was like everybody getting together before they go out for the night. Yeah. And I, as Liza Manneelli, sang a song called Skylab is Falling. How are we just hearing about this? Well, it's just a generational thing becausecause it was like a weird it was like the kind of pseudo Haley's comic accident thing that was happening that you played Liza Manneelli Well There's been plenty of times for you to fucking mention that. And now I do the song No, but this it's such a weird thing because apparently in real life, Because they were all on a lot of codach at the time.. Liza was obsessed with the fact that Skylab was falling and she thought it was gonna fall on her. and it was this weird paranoia. I don't know what that means. Here's the full explanation instead of just me talking about a play I was in once So Here's the explanation. our podcast. I did a musical. As you may already know, Skylab was a space station operated by NASA for several years in the seventies and was the only one that operated exclusively without foreign companies involved. It did end up falling in nineteen seventy nine, landing in a remote area of Australia outside of Per Outside of Perth. And like we we werere talking about ceilings and buildings and now we're talking about, you know, the sky Meet me on the astroal plane, man. I guess they didn't concentrate hard enough at this one specific college graduation, which honestly makes sense. So the woman was basically saying if we all focus, we can get this thing not to fall And it hadn't falled yet fall. It was like in the process. Okay. They knew it And said I thought she like no. She was like guessing. Yeah. No no, it was like on the news every. She was like, y'all. Yes, this is fucking scary. Get ready becausecause it could fall anywhere My mom, not a talented storyteller, just repeats things when my family asks her for an explanation. I love. Yeah. Well, Skylab was fing. It was falling. When somebody invariably asks who the cosmic lady was, my mom replies with, you know, the cosmic lady That would drive me insane As if we were there in the seventies and forgot about it and are being little shits about it. My mom is a very straight laced Christian woman who continually surprises me by knowing how to differentiate by smell. different stras of marijuana. She's a mystery She's the cosmic lady is what I fuck like it's probably her popular came to her graduation. Lady. if you know Pot that well, the Christianity probably came after That's all judgment. My girlfriend got me hooked on listening to your podcast a year ago, and I'm so glad she did Best wishes Emily Emily in the Skylab I learned something new. I mean, that was a real slice of life right there. Yeah. Was everyone freaking out and like terrified? Yeah. Wh especially the people that were on cocaine all the time? That was a big part of it. Especially Lliza Mineelli. Was she specifically worried about? She was specifically worried about it and it was affecting she was on some movie shoot and she wouldn't come out her her trailer because she thought Skylab was going fall. She just wanted to stay safe where the coke is. Yeah There now God, I want to sing the song so bad right now. Sing it Sy Lab' fallen out of the clear of the sky You have to do the skkyl balling. It's such a good. If my friend Laura Milligan's musical Waiting for Studio fifty four is on YouTube or anything, I highly recommend. Are you go find it? Yeah. Judah I'm Liz Vanlli Tom Kennney AKA Spunb pants is Halston. No, he's such a good Halston. Doug Benson is Andy Warhol. Oh my God. My friend Laura, who was five feet tall, was Jerry Hall wearing like a cowboy hat and a bigig wig, which was very funny Um Caul Tomkins was a Truman Capotody. Oh yes, of course he was. Who else was in this fucking h? Let's bring this back. It was the most fun, insane, crazy thing I've ever. Fver dream. Done. It was nuts. And everyone had a song. So she wrote individual songs for everybody about where they were at n. Young Coke, That's crazy. I mean, she has been at times in her life. Let's not throw her a little. No, she's notiz. She's done it all. Amazing Wow I know what I'm Googleing when I get home. I mean, I hope it's somewhere. ' it L Last episode I told you about being in a fucking mall fashion show. This week you're telling us about like we have more to give. There's more to give if we would just try. It's so funny because I'll about it later Okay o Summers for adventures, road trips and adding a whole lot of miles to your car. That's why it's worth stopping at Valvaline Instant Oil change first. If you need an oil change, make the smart stop at Valvaline Instant Oil change before you hit the highway. Their trained techs can help you get road trip ready with an oil change and an eighteen point maintenance check included with every oil change, checking your tire pressure, wipers, lights, and more. That means they're checking important things before you're halfway to your aunt's house with no cell service. And these aren't just any techs. Valvaline Instant oil change techs complete over two hundred seventy hours of training So your car's in capable hands. The best part, you can stay in your car and you're in and out in about fifteen minutes. So before your next long summer ride, pull into Valvaline inststant oil change. Valvaline inststant oil change, change wisely. G Be. Summer is all about saying yes, going out and bringing the mess home in your car. Sand, grass, and melting snacks will inevitably hit a ride. But with Weather teech, you can live life to the fullest WeatherTech floor liners, cargo liner, and seat protectors allow you to keep up with your summer adventures without the worry. Weatherech is built for all of those summer things, allowing you the freedom to go all in. Weather Tech iss an American made premium product built to last and easy to clean. If you're going all out this summer, you need WeatherTech. Visit WeatherTech dot com today Goodbye While the world watches the stars at the FVver World Cup this summer, Hyundai has its eyes on the next generation of talent. The future soccer stars who are already turning heads at age fourteen, making plays that end up on everyone's feed, scoring for angles that don't make sense, rewriting record books that barely had time to gather dust. Because Next doesn't wait for an invitation, and Hyundai doesn't either. Hyundai has always moved the future within reach. Hyundai did it by making advanced safety standard on every vehicle. Hyundai did it by engineering EVs with ultra fast charging capability. And Hyundai continues doing it every day. From robotics that change how people live to young athletes changing the game The future isn't some far off concept. it's already here. Next starts now. Hyundai, an official partner of VIFA. Good Goodebye U Trash Dad story. twoo minute read. Yes, I timed it. Okay I promised a two minute read, so let's get into it My dad passed away in october twenty twenty three This was my kids' first real experience with loss, so to comfort them in times of sadness, I tell funny stories of Grandpa Dana and his shenanigans.. One particular story stood out as a trash dad story On Wednesdays, we went with my dad, part of the split custody agreement, same. And he would bring us home after going to eat or whatever single dad's come up with to entertain kids, so much miniature golf, I can't even tell you On the way home this Wednesday summer evening, my dad got pulled over As the officer walked up, my dad handed me his cell phone. This is nineteen ninety three, so think save by the Bell, Zack Morris style brick phone Oh, no, like black guy. Yeah Jesus. And said, quote, If I get arrested, call my lawyer Jesus Christ. That's it. No number to call, no explanation. I'm eleven years old, All caps. My little brother is nine and in the back seat, all caps. What the actual fuck, Dana He's gonna get arrested Well, heres go. The officer checks his license and info, gives him a warning, and off we go, me still freaking out thinking I was going to have to explain to my mom why my dad went to jail in front of us and how I learned to use a cell phone on the fly As we drive away, my dad chuckles and says, Well, that was close Then he reaches over and opens his glove box to show us at least thirty unpaid parking and speeding tickets. Oh, Jesus. You getting flashbacks? Well, I just thought it was gonna be like my cousin Lisa where one time I opened her glove box and it just bags of weed fell out. And then she like slammed it back up and goes, That's not mine. I'm holding it for someone. And I didn't know what it was 'cause I was like seven years old. Seriously I was like, can you just take make me to four H? Oh my go. I bet it was like not that much, but you were a little kid, so you were like, it was bags and bags. It seemed like bags and bags. Like yeah. But it was also nineteen seventy eight, right? So it was just like shitty weeed anyway. Yeah, stems and seeds I never told my mom this story until my dad's celebration of life where we all laughed and reminisced about what a rascal my dad was My dad was my best friend and I think about him and miss him every day, but his memory lives on in me, my brother and my children As a lifelong resident of Wichita, I also have fun stories about the BTK killer, Dennis Rayder, including how the police thought my mom was a victim. Spoiler alert she wasn't, Diana is still alive to this day And how he taught my husband to make fire as his boy Scout leader. And it says, thanks, Dennis But this story about my dad means so much more to me and gives me a chance to talk about what a funny, crazy dad I got to have Stay sexy and always pay your parking tickets, Caroline Caroline, your dad was a bad ass. Yeah, because he's getting speeding and parking tickets and just throwing him Yeah, throwing him in a thing and being like, I'll deal with it later. There is nothing like this era from like the eighties through the like mid nineties of divorced dad It's all trash dad because they didn't know what the fuck they were doing. Yeah, it was kind of they were blazing a new trail of ways to live life. Right. And thinking they were like, yeah, I'm gonna like I'm gonna get a second wife in secretary and date a girl that's twenty two. and just blew shit up Totally. And then we're like drunk at sizzler crying at their children Yes I went to Sizzler so many times with my dad as a child. like I cannot even tell you that salad bar was fucking kicking. It's Salad bar. I mean, didn't they have like Fried chicken and fucking potato halves.uff Nacho cheese everywhere. So good Still around. That'll get you over a divorce. Okay The subic line of this email is an unintentional exorcist reenactment. Picture it. It just goes right into it. Picture it Chiller Theater Horror Convention in Parsipone, New York in Parspone, New Jersey. twenty twelve, where everything happens. Ppone. It sounds like there's a lot of gardens. It's like it sounds like it's very Salt of the earth They have a very specific style of Victorian houses. And like you have to paint them a certain color or fine by the city. It's like every person in every house is a cookie ant. Y. How do they per capita have so many cookie ants? And can we move there now, please? Hp.ipon. Okay Get me my funny apron Who invited all these tacky people? I'm in Pasippone, New Jersey I'm twenty seven, cute, single, bubbly, and high masking with undiagnosed autism and ADHD. God, that makes me tired for you. It's I saw TikTok and it was about how ADH people find each other no matter where they are. and it absolutely described you and I meeting for the first time. It is the funn one of the funniest things I've ever seen.. Okay, anyway, I was working for my chiropractor back home in Bethlehem, Pennsylvania. We were both Turkish American, so our relationship was more friendship than strictly professional He loved telling me wild stories about the celebrities he'd adjusted, complete with photo evidence. Oh my God. And I would just sit there wide eyed celebrities, he's adjusted. an you imagine It's a HIPA violation for sure. For sure. Its everybody's a chiropractor. So maybe there's no agreement. It can't be. No agreement. No offense, chiropractors. It's just all vibes It's all Turkish vibes He got invited to work on celebrities at a nearby horror convention and asked me to come along as his assistant. He told me he wouldn't know which celebrities he'd be working on until the day of, but honestly, I didn't care. I was just thrilled to be there. It was my first ever celebrity convention Pph It's one of the ones where like Vince goes to those where like people from movies from TV shows in the sixties come and like take photos with you and sign things. Yes. That's a horror movie one. Right. It's like if Bella Lgosi was live, he' be there That's all you got. Freddy Kruer,? Exactly. Yes. Okaykay. I could have pulled his name if I'd had fifteen seconds, but The menopausal brain is just like just the lights are shutting down. When we arrived, I had a couple hours to wander before I had to report back In that time, I had a lovely conversation with Michael Constantine, the dad from my Big Fat Greek wedding. I also met John Aston, the original Gomez from the Adams family, who was also Sean Aston Yeah, from the Hobbit movies his dad. Yeah Butch Patrick, Eddie Mster, and awkwardly promposed with Dean Kane from the Lois and Clark TV show. Okay,s not That's like a solid B plus level. It is. although Dean Kane, it says this was pre Trump, so I was fully geeking out over Superman with his big arms around me. Okay Then it says, I met backup with doctor Kent. He casually tells me he's gonna bring me up to Linda Blair's hotel room while he adjusts her. I don't think I need to explain what the exorcist means to a horror fan, but just in case, it is my favorite horror movie of all time. And at twenty seven with completely unmedicated ADHD and zero emotional regulation skills I was not equipped to handle this level of autistic joy. We go up to a room, I sit in a chair next to the bed while doctor Kent starts adjusting her. I try to keep it together. I really do, but I can't. So I blurt out something like, I can't believe this is happening. The Eorcist is my favorite horror movie And that's when it happens. Linda Blair is lying on the bed across from me as Dr. Kent cracks her neck violently to one side Well, that's an adjustment. Yeah. it also sounds like the movie. Yes. She suddenly shoots upright, locks eyes with me and hiss says, Stop talking about the fucking exercise. Oh no. I thought'd be cool. And then slams herself back down on the bed. I cannot begin to describe the emotional cocktail I experienced in that moment, terror, shame, embarrassment, all of the above. But more importantly, I am now watching Linda Blair's head move in deeply unsettling directions on a hotel bed So I shall the fuck up She says something after that about the movie being about faith and evil, but I fully dissociate it at that point. After a few more minutes of adjustments and me sitting there in absolute silence, she gets up, walks over to me and apologizes. Her exact words, She was sorry for quote going all exorcist on my ass. And all right. She explained that she has a lot of trauma tied to the film. and was also in a great deal of physical pain.. Then she opened her arms and we hugged it out. Oh They say never meet your heroes, but honestly, even though this encounter went horribly wrong and nothing like I imagined, I would also argue that it was absolutely the perfect way to meet Linda Blair, not just the icon, but the perfect human. And on that note, stay sexy and let the power of Christ compel you Do I go? She her? Wow But here's the thing She's getting her neck adjusted. Yeah. And then everything that just got described literally sounds like that horrible scene in the exorcist. Yeah. And she remember we covered this in probably episode eleven or something. She hurt her back really badly in those scenes. Oh God. that's why she needs a chiropractor. Yes. she's young In that movie, she got flipped all over the place, likeike it wasn't good. And then now years later, it's like she's trying to get a fucing adjustment. Here's a reminder of why you're even in this position. And it's like okay. I love your movie. counter Argument. She's at a horror convention Of course, someone's going to talk about the exxorcist but not in private room Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. No no, it's understandable. And then it's just like the thing is that I think like somebody like Linda Blair, it's like, and I bet you she was in the middle of it, but she's like, she's an icon.. And it's hard to know. she doesn't know she's an icon. She's like, oh, this is just the movie that fucked my back in necca. Yeah. But actually people are just like, I this is my favorite genre Man. ir Also I love that it was like the full story there because it would have sucked if it'd just been like, And what a bitch for doing that where it's like, no, no, no. no, she wouldn't have been. but was It's very cool. she' is also lovely. Yeah Summers for adventures, road trips and adding a whole lot of miles to your car. That's why it's worth stopping at Valvalinee Instant oil change first. If you need an oil change, make the smart stop at Valvalinee inststant oil change before you hit the highway. Their trained techs can help you get road trip ready with an oil change and an eighteen point maintenance check included with every oil change, checking your tire pressure, wipers, lights, and more. That means they're checking important things before you're halfway to your aunt's house with no cell service. And these aren't just any techs. Valvaline Instant oil change techs complete over two hundred seventy hours of training So your car's in capable hands. The best part, you can stay in your car and you're in and out in about fifteen minutes. So before your next long summer ride, pull into Valvalinee inststant oil change. Valvalinee inststant oil change, change wisely. Gee. Summer is all about saying yes, going out and bringing the mess home in your car. Sand, grass, and melting snacks will inevitably hit a ride. But with weather teech, you can live life to the fullest WeatherTech floor liners, cargo liner, and seat protectors allow you to keep up with your summer adventures without the worry. WeatherTech is built for all of those summer things, allowing you the freedom to go all in. WeatherTech is an American made premium product built to last and easy to clean. If you're going all out this summer, you need WeatherTech. Visit Weatherteech dot com today. Goodbye While the world watches the stars at the FVver World Cup this summer, Hyundai has its eyes on the next generation of talent. The future soccer stars who are already turning heads at age fourteen, making plays that end up on everyone's feed, scoring for angles that don't make sense, rewriting record books that barely had time to gather dust. Be Next doesn't wait for an invitation, and Hyundai doesn't either. Hyundai has always moved the future within reach. Hyundai did it by making advanced safety standard on every vehicle. Hyundai did it by engineering EVs with ultra fast charging capability. And Hyundai continues doing it every day. From robotics that change how people live to young athletes changing the game The future isn't some far off concept, it's already here. Next starts now. Hyundae, an official partner of VIFA. Good Goodebye This one is my last one is one of my favorite stories Okay, It's got a lot of different things that we've asked for through the years I'm not going to reach the subject l When I was in middle school, my mom randomly told us we were going to the pound to find a dog. We found the cutest little black dog whose origins we did not know, but he looked like a mix between a black lab and a weiener dog. We named him Otis. That's a great dog name. Such a good dog name. Yeah. My friend is a cat nameame Ois That doesn't matter. Okay Otis had liked to get out of our dog door and then sneak out of the fenced in backyard and take himself on walks around the neighborhood while we were at school and work iliar. He would come back on his own when he was ready or be returned to our parents by some nice neighbor who would simply call my mom So no big deal, right Well, one day, he escaped to go on his adventures around the neighborhood, but this time did not return My family searched for him for days, and then that turned into weeks. And this time, no one called. My three year old nephew was living with us at the time and that dog was his best friend. So naturally he was crushed My parents stopped by the pound every day for weeks looking for him with no luck They had given up hope, not sure what to do when one day my mom was driving past the penitentiary in our town The penitentiary was located out of the way, so it was random that she took the route right by it that day. And while driving, she looked over and yelled Hey, that looks like Otis She was looking at the yard inside the penitentiary. She whipped the car around, parked and walked over to the fence about thirty yards from where an inmate was training a little black dog and yelled Yes. He came running over immediately There was still a large fence with barbed wire in between them, but my mom knew it was our Otis. It the first line is you asked for dogs in prison. so here's a story for that We did. Well, but I think it was the thing of like, you know that that's a program that they do of like training dogs Wait, there's more. Okay. She asked the inmate how he got that dog, and he quickly and nervously said, You need to speak to the pound and ran off. He could get into a lot of trouble for speaking to someone who is randomly standing outside the fence. Fair enough. Y. So she drove over to the pound, immediately, this is so fucked up. And after much insistence, they finally told her that the dog she had been inquiring about was in a program prison pubps where an inmate is assigned a dog from the pound and trains them to be ready for a home. and in exchange, the inmate gets time off their sentence. So they knew that that dog was in the prison The whole time that they were checking in. But wait, there's more. Okay This is one of those like the story we talked about like the woman keeping the dog she found that didn't fall, you know, it's like yeah what would you do? But this is actually really bad. Okay. But the lady who was running the pound at the time insisted that the dog was not Otis We think they had put a lot of time slash paperwork with Otis to get him into the program. so they did not want to pull him out at this point She had like a quota to meet of dogs to get put in this prison program. And so she was fucking taking people's. Also, you know, I have the story of George climbing that goddamn fain. Yeah. And that's what she would do. Yeah. I think people get really mad when that if they look at you as like you're a terrible pet owner. R And the people that are sincerely Please go listen to my story about what was actually happening with George. But when dogs get out like that, they could get hit hit by cars. So there's, I think there was a neighbor in my neighborhood when I had to go spring her from the pare one day because they're just like, you can't have a dog if your dog is gonna get out all the time. Sure.o accidentally kidnapped a cat for that same reason. I'm like, there's no outdor cats in thisuckuc neighborhood. There's cootes everywhere And I was wrong H. You're just trying to do some good in this world. That's right. me and Salem, we're now fucking bonding for life Okay, my mom, not one to let down, returned the next day with a full thirty page photo album of Otis with our family. And my mom loved her camera A lot of the photos being of Otis with my nephew, and to seal the deal, she also brought my little three year old nephew with her. A little heartbroken boy looking for his dog must have finally melted the stubborn employee's heart. and she gave in and admitted that the dog was in fact Otis The woman came for weeks every day to the pound shows you that this was a dog that was loved. You know what I mean? It's not like no one came for him. But almost like it's the more that person comes, the more that the person who made that decision has to stick by it and has to tell themselves like. But she would think it didn't happen for a couple weeks at least 'a they no time to sign Otis up for this program. Were they hiding Otis? Well, I mean, it sounds like it. or shes like Otis already got funneled into the program crazy They agreed to give him back after we paid a one hundred and fifty dollars fee, of course. The employee also tried to charge my mom an additional two hundred and seventy five dollars for a neutering fee We had to get him neutered when we got him years before. so this was already done. Oh. In which my mom replied Well, that is strange. I did not know you could cut their balls off twice. The lady again relented and removed that fee. When all the paperwork was done, they opened the door, and Otis ran into the arms of my nephew knocking him down with joy. My little nephew was in tears. Otis returned home and never escaped again. He's like Sorry I'm not going back to pr. I didn't mean to go to prison guys. sorry I thought I was going to like a fucking candy factory or something or like aicken roast chicken place He grew old with his little boy for several more years until the ripe old age of sixteen My mom too, has since passed, but she was never one to give up on her family, especially a boy and his best friend Otis lived an adventurous life and we have many more stories, but this is the one about how he got locked up did hard time and eventually broke free Thank you for all you do and for providing such a great space to return to every Monday and Thursday And Wednesday. Stay safe and don't give up to search. Maybe even look in the pen Love Laura And then there's a picture of the dog and it also says, PS. my mom's name was Vicky with an IPon. Nice. There's Odd. Look, he looks traumatized. like home man. He's like, listen, Ive made some bad decisions. At least I'm here with my friend again Look at that Look at how eighties and nineties that comforter is that he's laying on. It looks like one of those cups esn't it? It's like get some ice, get some sprite That dog also, the odds of that dog being outside while she drives by. Totally. Like that's fate where it's likeally. It just wasn't supposed to be in that program. Yeah. getet them off the streets. so funny. Okay, here's my last one And this is that if that story had all the elements of things we love. this one does too. R

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