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My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark

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From MFM Minisode 495Jul 6, 2026

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They know Okay, it says, I now live in Los Angeles, but I hail from a small border town of Del Rio, Texas. When I was nine, we moved to a new neighborhood, and I remember driving past the rundown old mansion at the end of our street for the first time. Its imposing iron gates bore the name doctor Brinkley From the back seat, I asked, Wh's Dctor Brinkley? to which my dad casually replied, Oh, that was the goat testicle doctor As you can imagine, that nickname comes with an equally insane backstory that honestly feels like it could have happened today In nineteen seventeen, a young doctor named John Romulas Brinkley moved to a tiny town in Kansas with his wife Minnie. One day, a farmer visited Brinkley complaining of being a flat tire AKA erectile dysfunction. They joked about how goats never seem to have that problem. And the farmer said, too bad, you don't have billy goat nuts What started as a joke turned serious when the farmer insisted Brinkley implant goat testicles into his scridum to fix the issue. No, no, no, no, you can't make up a fucking medical procedure. But in nineteen seventeen you could., I guess so. Thus the goat gland cure was born Brinkley began promoting the procedure as a cure all, claiming it could fix everything from impotence to cancer, even offering a version for women. To be clear, this surgery was a complete hoax and Brinkley knew it, but his charisma and flare, complete with a goatee, round glasses and a three piece suit, helped sell the scam The guy's like the KFCM Testicles. They're like there's something familiar about that guy, and I trust him. Colonel withith my testicles It was also around this time that commercial radio was taking off and Brinkley saw and seized its potential. He launched his own station, using it to promote his hospital, ack remedies and elixirs. Wow. So he had his own means of production.. Brinkley was a natural using his calm and conversational voice, He was a natural. Us his calm and conversational voice, he convinced and captivated audiences turning himself into a nationwide sensation Not everyone was buying it though Enter dorct. Morris Fisbeine of the newly established American Medical Association. Maorris, you're such a buzzkill. Morris, get in here because he also has a curly mustache rround. a rectile dysfunction That's not something to laugh at It's okay. they're not paying attention For years, he worked tirelessly to expose Brinkley as a fraud and eventually succeeded, taking him to court The trial revealed Brinkley had a questionable medical degree and was linked to forty two death certificates of patients who died at his clinic. Oh my God, with countless more likely succumbing to his dangerous advice. This is incredible. Yeah, wow. Brinkley had become one of the most successful killers in American history, operating openly in full public view, even crazier He couldn't be criminally prosecuted due to the laws at the time. Oh my Godd, I want a whole episode about this. I mean, meat dipbs. Yeah. No you can have it.. It's wor so much. I'm touching the paper so it's mine Kansas revoked his medical license and federal authorities, shut down his radio station, but Brinkley wasn't finished. He ran for governor. Wow. Of course he did he has the audacity getet that shit out there and kill more people. It's your're right. Please spread the word. usings his celebrity massive cult like following and radio platform to cast himself as a victim of the elites. Sound familiar He lost, but only because the state rejected thousands of votes that misspelled his name Lost on a technicality By nineteen thirty one, Brinkley relocated to Del Rio, where he built one of the most powerful radio stations in the world just across the Rio Grande in Mexico outside US regulations. His pseudoscience reached millions spanning as far as Asia. And then in parentheses, it says, our old neighor claimed that his station was so strong, it made their bed springs hum and car headlights flicker. This is amazing. It' fucking unbelievable Keep going. As Brinkley's f grew so did his ego, he was rubbing elbows at Hollywood premiere, slapping his name on his mansion, a custom cadillac, and a private airplane. After visiting nineteen thirties's Germany, he embraced, of course Naz. He embraced pro fascist views, even considered running for president, again, sound familiar Eventually, lawsuits and investigations caught up with him. A libel suit against Fishbine backfired exposing his fraudulent empire. Yes, that's in discovery. if you try to somebody. They can fucking depose you. It all comes out Within two years, he was bankrupt and a year later, he died of a heart attack at the age fifty six Today, his mansion still stands, restored by a series of subsequent owners and marked as a Texas historical site, a bizarre monument to a con man who built an empire on charisma, deception, and well, goat testicles. I just want to thank you two for being my constant companions for all these years and for always making my Mondays, Thursdays, and now Wednesdays a little brighter. Not until every day and the week is jed up. So proud of everything that you've accomplished and all the lives you've touched. Thank you A big shout out to my friend, Annie, who introduced me to the show and to my road trip buddies Brian and Cody, who are always along for the stories. Hope to see you soon Bertto With an exclamation point. Alberto He him. And then he included a newspaper article highlighting Billy the first goat gland baby Okay, what? So basically because Oh Yeah It can't be real though, The erectile stopped Dysfunctioning and here comes the Oh my go. Billy, the goat and baby that. John R Brinkley Billy, Billy, the goat Bill go. Oh Billy goat. I didn't even think of it And that baby is Chris Farley's father Wow, that there's so many, I just there's so many things. I want to hear at people's like crazy person from their town that everyone knows about. like the person who has like a legend. Yes. There was an incredible old Victorian that was on a hill on the highway on the road like on the highway in Patalima. And it was white and faded and it absolutely looked like it was from a horror movie. Yeah. And it just sat there like falling apart. be Who lives who lived there? and no one knew I think at one point a teacher at our school was like is like the egg magnet of Red Loomer or whatever But it looked like a witch lived there It was amazing Okay my Okay, first one's called Inca Talking Heads. Lima Peru hometown. Oh Hello and welcome to my favorite story. Smiley, winky face. I live in a great little town just north of Petaluma called, and I'm gonna get this wrong. It's not Stub a pole. Seast Seastible. I'm sure Karen knows it well Very well. Yay. I sa this says Yay. I saved all my fan girlling for you two until the end. So let's dive in because this period is period good My husband is in American now, previously British and even earlier than that Peruvian. and it says yes, his accent is to die for He was born in Lima and lived there for his first fifteen years. When he was really young, there were many Ink and burial grounds just outside town. I'm sure they are all protected now, but sadly, grave robbers had mostly already pillaged all of them over time Anyway, it was the early seventies, ladies. so however inappropriate this was, folks treated checking out the graves as a day outing of sorts. Yeah, and go look at the ruins kind of. Yeah There was some stuff left behind by the robbers, like tiny bits of pottery, rope, and even some bones, like femurs that my husband and his brother would take home and sword fight with. Sword fight. that's not Sord yoga I just remembered, but also that's bad You don't want that That's no on your hands or home. Well, here it goes. Okay. Well, his grandmother Brenda, that is not a grandmother's name and that's not Brendarenda Grandma Brenda. Grandma Brenda had done the same thing many years earlier than that when the graves were quote less pillaged B then she came across two relatively intact Ink and skulls, she decided to take home with her She felt it surely seemed better than them being strewn across the desert as she had found them She placed them at each end of the piano in her house and went along with the day. My husband's whole family plays piano a lot. so for months the skulls were always in good company or so they thought until one day his grandmother's gardener and cook, both inc and descendants, asked to talk to her They sat her down and told her that the skulls had to go She was mortified and realized she had probably desecrated their culture and said she would rebury them immediately. But no, it wasn't that at all They didn't care at all that the skulls were there. The problem was apparently the skulls were talking and gossiping to each other all the time and often even fighting Look at, it's like fucking haunted mansion come to light. Yes. They said all this back and forth bickering from the skulls was driving them nuts and they couldn't sleep at night. Seriously this actually happened So off the skulls went to be buried back where they came from, and a new family rule was enacted. They were still allowed to bring home bones, and it says, yeep, still the seventies. They just couldn't be skulls And they had to bury them in the garden before the second sunset from when they brought them home Okay. Interestingly, there's a Peruvian law that states all deceased must be buried before the second sunset of their death This time in South America seems to be brimming with truly incredible family stories, like the time when they found out his other grandparents were M one six spies, right? M I six? am I six M I six spies in Colombia during the Cold War and a super romantic story of his father serenating his mom at her house from a piano that he and his friends had stolen from a bar, h in a truck. Yes and drove onto her lawn playing the whole way. Why can't I have that? That is romance. It' sw. Now just fucking sw I swiped on you. Now you're just nagging people in a bar And you're supposed to that's enough. No And then it says, Ah, so sweet, but those are stories for another day. Thanks for all you do. I've been a listener since year two and really love your dedicated empowerment of women. I'm a female business owner disrupting my traditionally male industry and making space for mental health conversations. I also especially love your book and TV recommendations. I travel a lot for work and I love to cook and there's nothing better than a few MFM episodes to brighten my mood No matter how slightly disturbing my husband finds it. Thankk you again. You too are inimitable, and we all appreciate you so much. Ash What does inimitable mean? Like One of a kind U Molly impmossible to copy or imitate One of kind. Well, that's not true. Let's not be crazy. You know what we're talking about. Wonderful. Thank you, Ash. That h. That was first of all, culturally interestingally relevant, but also like what an insane that's just nearby. Yeah. Like that's just like, oh yeah, did you bring a femur home from the ruin? The ruin cemetery. Actually we had a driver in Italy across Sicily and he was saying that there are ruins all across Sicily, but no one ever tells anybody because the government will come and take your land. Wait, why? They they kind of like go, it's like you you know. So he goes, Ohh, we used to he goes, we used to climb on there would be big columns from the temples and we played on all of it. 'cause it was a driver who took us to this one site where they had like built stuff up and walked all around it and it was super cool. He's like, Oh, we used to play here when we were little kids. We just get all over it. We climbed all over this st. I thought you were gonna say there were some like mines hidden Oh, no. that's That's crazy. It's wild. And then he's like, he goes, I know so many people I know so many people that just have like ancient stuff in their garage because they're gonna to take their land if they tell them They're not telling anybody. Oh my God, that's amazing. It's so good. Yeah. There's your there's the tour you want to go on. Yeah When it comes to looking your best, Beachbum Tanning does it better. Beachbum delivers advanced sun and spray tanning, luxury skincare, and an elevated salon experience designed around you. It's why so many guests trust Beachbum for flawless color and real confidence. And now Beachbum is expanding wellness services to many locations, with red light therapy and infrared sauna, with more on the way. recharge your body, refresh your skin, reset your day. Beachbum isn't just tanning, It's full spectrum wellness. Visit beachbum dot com to find a location near you Getting diagnosed with relapsing MS isn't just a medical moment It's a life moment For Zenovia, it came out of nowhere And it shook everything I had a lot of fear, a lot of anger. You know, why me I try to do all the right things. I take care of my body. So what is this But she didn't stay in that fear When her doctor said, You have options, she leaned in Because for Zenovia, taking charge of her treatment was everything Once I heard about Kysympta and that I could take it just once a month at home, I said, please sign me up I really wanted something that worked for me and my busy life Kysympta Ophaumabab is a prescription treatment for adults with relapsing forms of multiple sclerosis, taken monthly after three weekly starter doses It's a B cell treatment that gives you the power of proven results with reduced relapses and slowed disability progression, as shown in two studies versus terraflunamide. with a treatment that fits her full life Zenovia has the time to keep up with her wellness business, spend time with friends, and stay focused on what matters to her The fifth, that's my treatment date. I really don't think about it the rest of the month and I love that I am not letting relapsing M mass distrupt my life. My treatment choice? boom, that's Kisimsa Don't take if you've had an allergic or life threatening reaction to Kyys sympta or have hepatitis B. You'll be tested for Hp B before treatment as it could return. Serious side effects, including infections in PML or rare brain infection can occur and may be fatal or cause severe disability Tell your doctor about your medical history, including liver problems, plans for vaccines, and pregnancy. It's not known if it will harm your unborn baby. You'll be monitored for a decrease in certain antibodies and liver function, as it may cause liver damage. Most common side effects are upper respiratory infection, headache and injection reactions, including swelling, itching, pain, skin redness, fever, headache, muscle pain, chills, and tiredness If you are navigating relapsing MS, talk to your doctor and learn more at kyssimpta. com or call eight fivety five Kyssimpta because how you live your life is still up to you It's said everything happens for a reason, but maybe everything happens for a Reas's Noise canceling headphones. Do they block hearing to heighten taste?? Hm That sound seems to show everything happens for Aes' This is Matt Rogers from Los Culturistus with Matt Rogers and Bo and Yang. This is Bo and Yang from Los Culturistus with Mat Rogers and Boen Yang. Hey, Boen, pointoint of order. It feels like nothing is what it says it is anymore. Point of answer. It's because everything has a catch. Hey, or turns out to be something else entirely like a total catfish situation. Exactly, Bau. Except for hotels dot com Yeah, that one's pretty literal because it's hotels dot com d in the domain You go there, you book hotels, hundreds of thousands of them. And hold up, that's. It, That's it. And when stays are booked as a member, rewards are earned every time. Every stay, every stay, no tracking or managing, just rewards that can be used like cash on future bookings. Which by the way already feels nicer than most rewards programs. o? Yeah. members can also get up to twenty percent off booking. so savings start right away. Does that mean no weird restrictions? and no blackout dates. Book what workors when it works actually really fitting of real travel. So the name is honest, you're saying. And the rewards are too. Exactly. hotels. com It's in the name This has something This is a trash parents story, but I'm not a con reader. The subject line it says, Hey Karein in Georgia. picture it It's summer, nineteen ninety five, and I'm four years old, and my family and I travel all the way to San Diego, California, from Kentucky for the first time. We did it right We rented out the red convertible, drove across the Mexican border to have dinner and a dance. in parentheses not a passport in site and spent the day at All Cs Sa World. Well, not horrible, but horrible by the kid was how it was. ye I was so excited, all the beautiful fish and they even had those whales We're sitting there watching the Orchca show. This is a four year old. We're sitting there watching the Orchca show at the top of the bleachers. and my mom, an elementary school teacher with permed hair and an ear for whispering, overhears some workers saying, and they need to be about thirty eight inches and less than forty pounds. And my mother, not one to lose out on an experience, says, My daughter is less than forty pounds and gestures to me. Oh my God, Not five minutes later I've been taken from my family by two random people, walked back behind the gates and onto a stage where directly in front of me emerges an orca whale onto a semi submerged platform. No. A trainer in Lyicra grabs me and hoists me up I, a literal four year old am sitting, straddling a killer That's a snack. You you have a photo shit. This bititch, it's like a it's like she's on a fucking what are those called carousel Right fucking literal killer whale and other oness just laughing and smiling about it. If the carousel had horses that were dangerously wide, because this little girl's practically doing the splits on top of this orca. Holy w shit. This is an apex predator. These are more dangerous than great white sharks. I made that up, but I feel like I read that somewhere. They're the most dangerous. They're the biggest killers. in the crowd, not a speck of sunblock to be found. Wow. What a time.. Maybe that same year I fainted at SeaWorld. Oh, I was there and I fainted I. Was it because that little girl was doing the spit so hard? No, but can we see my head in the backroundgh. Am I there Okay. I am nothing but my mother's daughter and I am loving it I sit, smile, and wave to my adoring fans, not knowing at all what the actual hell was going on Today, I don't remember much of it, other than being slightly upset afterwards that my butt was wet after the experience. Yeah. But this is definitely now my fun fact about me. I have made fun of my mother many times about this, how she let her oldest child, but four year olds go off with strangers and be placed on top of a giant sea creature whose name literally includes the word killer true trash parent behavior, because come on, it was the n. Stay sexy and volunteer your toddlers for cool things, Emily And then she says PSC attached photo of littleittle Emily. Oh my God, I love it. so Watch Dark waterater, everyone, we have to say it. I mean, I feel like Oras should absolutely be protected, but I love that it's come to a turn in our culture where eople need to be protected from the Ocas no, ' they can try to kill people 'cause they deserve it. They're on it. Okay, well, I have a dadlore St Georgia. Yeah. Did you say dark waterater? What's it called bllackwater? Blackfish Darkwater, Blackfish. Darkwater is a Japanese horror movie, isn't it? Is it? isn't it I think it's a film starring Mark Ruffalo. but it's from but it's a It's about chemicals in our water, I think. Yes. Oh, okay, so blackfish is what I'm talking about. Can you leave us all in, by the way, obviously one hundred percent. Because this is great podcasting content And Rbte's called the Disney X trash parent crossover you have been waiting for. Oh Ladies, sending love to you and the ERM team from my sofa in Oslo, Norway. Hey, we've been there. Hello. I'm currently watching you on Netflix. Congrgrats. And the Disney story from Anaheim made me rush to my laptop to share my contrasting yet parallel experience break for us back in the early two thousands was a bunch of my classmates's parents in Eagle Rock, figuring out what to do with a gang of kids that included crashing the houses with pools, camping at Lake Peru, and an annual trip to Disney normally at the peak of summer in July. D't relevant later With so many kids and activities, it isn't that wild that you wouldn't drive in the same car as your parents if you wanted to sit with your friend, etcetera. On this occasion to Disney, I sat and drove there with my friends, family and we had a great day as a gaggle of kids and our parents The time came to get on the trams that would bring us to the parking lot areas. In the chaos of everyone boarding the trams, I somehow got lost in the shuffle and couldn't recognize anyone in our group. I didn't end up boarding We had just didn't get on the tram. No. because think. Yeah. I don't know. We had parked all in the same area, so I knew to stay put and someone would be back to get me since they would realize I was missing. The fireworks were long over, it was getting colder and the sparkle of the day had officially faded I waited and waited until a cast member saw me and asked if I was lost After telling them what had happened and how much time had passed, they took me to a lost kid center I've been at Disneyland. Yeah. I've been to that little little house. Oh my go, the like you ran off Yep Oh yeah. yeah. I ruined part of vacation. My parents thought I'd been kidnapped out at Disneyland when I was five This is that. That day at Disney is one big blur, but I remember clearly the older man who kind of looked like Santa, staying with me for hours and gave me multiple pins for my lanyard, some Mickey mouse nuggets and set up some blankets for me to lay in. It's like a lost dog. I was just in a red chair No one gave me shit. Meanwhile, my parents had driven all the way home. Sorry, Ive missed that completely. It looks like a lost dog I was putting a kennel. I put a nice fleece underneath me. Got a chute toy. Meanwhile, my parents had driven all the way home and Eagle Rock is fucking too like it's back in Los Angelesours where they finally realized I wasn't with the family that I originally drove with. And because it was two thousand, they had to go into the family's house to use their dialect to find a hotline to Disneyland, which I always find the most cinematic part of the story My parents apologized and fussed over me when I did finally talk to them on the phone as they were headed back to pick me up I was so tired and slightly traumatized by this point, and my spacy but loving parents were a mess when they got there. My guardian Santa and other cast members kindly offered us a room in one of the hotels since it had been hours since the park had closed, and they had already driven home and back. fuck in hindsight, it is reasonable to think that the family I arrived with had assumed I would be going home with my parents and my parents assumed I would go in the car with the family I drove with. It's definitely something you locked down beforehand, though. On the other hand, WTF mom and dad. Anyho, that's how I also got a free night at a Disney hotel and spent my ninth birthday Stay sexy and teach your kids your phone number Parenting one on one . legendary It's so scary, though. I got lost during the day and then was found, you know I turned myself in and was found But the idea that you're there and then just everything closes around you. Everything's just kind of shutting down. No. you're like, o shit. The feeling of being a lost as a little kid is the scariest When it comes to looking your best, Beachbum tanning does it better. Beeachbum delivers advanced sun and spray tanning, luxury skincare, and an elevated salon experience designed around you. It's why so many guests trust Beachbum for flawless color and real confidence. And now Beachbum is expanding M' services to many locations, with red light therapy and infrared sauna, with more on the way. Rcharge your body, refresh your skin, reset your day. Beachbum isn't just tanning. It's full spectrum wellness. Visit beachbum dot com to find a location near you Getting diagnosed with relapsing MS isn't just a medical moment. It's a life moment. For Zenovia, it came out of nowhere And it shook everything I had a lot of fear, a lot of anger. You know, why me I try to do all the right things. I take care of my body. So what is this But she didn't stay in that fear When her doctor said, You have options, she leaned in Because for Zenovia, taking charge of her treatment was everything. Once I heard about Kympta and that I could take it just once a month at home, I said, please sign me up I really wanted something that worked for me and my busy life. Kysympta Ophaumumab is a prescription treatment for adults with relapsing forms of multiple sclerosis, taken monthly after three weekly starter doses. It's a B cell treatment that gives you the power of proven results with reduced relapses and slowed disability progression, as shown in two studies versus terraflunames. with a treatment that fits her full life Senovia has the time to keep up with her wellness business, spend time with friends, and stay focused on what matters to her The fifth, that's my treatment day I really don't think about it the rest of the month and I love that I am not letting relapsing Mass distrupt my life. My treatment choice, Bom, that's Kiimpta. Don't take if you've had an allergic or life threatening reaction to Ky sympta or have hepatitis B. You'll be tested for Hp B before treatment as it could return Serious side effects, including infections in PML, or rare brain infection, can ocur and may be fatal or cause severe disability. Tell your doctor about your medical history, including liver problems, plans for vaccines, and pregnancy. It's not known if it will harm your unborn baby You'll be monitored for a decrease in certain antibodies and liver function as it may cause liver damage. Most common side effects are upper respiratory infection, headache and injection reactions, including swelling, itching, pain, skin redness, fever, headache, muscle pain, chills, and tiredness. If you are navigating relapsing MS, talk to your doctor and learn more at kysima. com or call eight fivety five Kysimpta becausecause how you live your life is still up to you It's said everything happens for a reason, but maybe everything happens for Reese's Noise canceling headphones. Do they block hearing to heighten taste? That sound seems to show everything happens for Resis This is Matt Rogers from Los Culturistus with Matt Rogers and Bo and Yang. This is Bo and Yang from Los Culturist, with Mat Rogers and Boen Yang. Hey, Boen, point of order. It feels like nothing is what it says it is anymore

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