Exploring the Temple and Talking Books

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I'm Joe Hodgon, and joining me of course, is Brandon Thomas. Zillutations And how is your week good serve? Amazing. It's been amazing. Mary's out of town, Bachelor of weeek here coming up to our break, which we are very excited about. thank you guys so much for joining us on this first six months of this little over six months and some change this awesome ride that we've just been undertaking here So thank you veryery exciting week. all kinds of cool stuff going on, lot of work leading up to this. We are wrapping up in the extension here, the disgusting little topic that we've had going for a few shows here. and it's culminates in this amazing release of fascinating information that we will notot leaving you hanging on and funky pun intended, man. you know. We get into a little bit more of the Bud Hopkins work connected to all sorts of stuff and I've got a crazy story from Africa, a very famous story actually John Matt covered in one of his books but we're going to cover that as well and then go over some bat shit crazy theories, as well as combined sort of the two ideals, male, female, differences between and speculate wildly on some deeper meanings behind what's going on Nice and that coming up in plus, of course on the free show though, we're going to be getting into I can only call hot chaff and we really haven't done any intentional hot chaff this whole season. so figured what a way to wrap up our first season then a little bit of hot chaff. and it's not It's not exactly It depends on how you look at it, I guess. It's a by somebody who just goes by Commander X awesome. And it's entitled Underground Alien Bases. This was written in nineteen ninety and he gives likeike no context as to where like he comes from, he just basically says, I'm a ex military something and So I mean, take the stories as you want, as you should, anyway They're u Obviously the title, you know, insinuites underground alien bases, but a lot of the stories actually are Not really about alien bases. They're just, you know, underground tunnel systems that aren't entirely natural cup some of them, I mean, this book is chock full of them and it's actually kind of a short book. I think it's like a hundred and fifty pages, little thin guy but it's a Yeah, he pulls all kinds of stories out. The reason I call it chaff though is because he doesn't really put a whole lot of dates or sources or a lot of the times the names are just it's like one name and oh, I got this story from this person so buying bait at this shop one time and man this guy had a whopper and here it is So yeah, it's just kind of a compilation that this dude put together and Some of them you might have heard before, but they're I picked out some that were close to me actually One of them's in Mount Lassen, which is like forty five minutes from where I live I actually climbed the top of that mountain. twelve, I think Oh, really really cool view. Let me tell you, it's a gnarly hike, but it's a It's worth it. It was a moonlit hiked too. It was crazy. So we went out there at like midnight and hiked up the whole thing and We gotot a full moon view of the entire valley. It was really cool see began your hike at midnight U well, we might have started more like ten, but But you know, by the time we get to the top, it was about midnight. That's amazing. And then that was going to be my next question. What' what's your trip time taking your four hour round trip on this thing. pllus you're hanging out for a little bit up there So talkking about five hour Yeah was around that. And I'm not even sure if you can still climb that Today I mean this is back in late nineties, so I know they closed it off for a bit And who knows why? Right. Nefarious shit Yeah, of course he He starts off with a little bit of a you know, history of UFOs in general. You know, like by the late forties, this strange thing started happening where reports were coming in about these weird objects in the sky, seeing shiny discks and you know, and of course, we'll know listening to this show or any oth is that at first these sightings were, you know, oh, they're mistakes or hoaxes or h swamp gas, all these things swamp gas. You know, a lot of them were, oh, secret military projects, but u It wasn't just normal people seeing these, as we know. There's pilots and military personnel, radar operators, all these people that are I guess more credentials than your average citizen, which is It's dumb, but we do think of it that way. So You got to put it in there A lot of people who were, you, reporting these things were losing jobs, you know, were reputations trashed or uh, you know, just being ridiculed for describing what they saw, but One of the more popular theories after in the years following World War two is that these craft might have been secret Nazi technology It's not really much of a stretch because Germany had been experimenting with all sorts of these advanced weapons systems I The idea that some hidden black project had produced these circular aircraft wasn't totally unreasonable and But Commander X here, he points out that captured German records kind of showed that the Nazis themselves were just as confused by a lot of the UFO reports as everyone else So if the Germans didn't know these things were, then maybe the answer was somewhere else So it goes back a little bit further and He says that, you know, long before the modern UFO era, there's these researchers like our buddy and Pal Charles Fort shout out. I mean, he hadd already been collecting hundreds of these accounts with strange objects in the sky. I mean, and his stuff stretched all the way back in the eighteen hundreds and beyond. and Allright So whatever these people were seeing wasn't just a modern phenomenon at all. It had been around for a long time and as humanity started exploring the solar system, or so we're told then another problem kind of came out that you know, these nearby planets didn't seem particularly welcoming. I mean, Mercury was basically on fire and Venus He Venus also is extremely hot. The, you know, the outer planets are frozen wasteland. so If intelligent life existed, then where exactly was it fucking comining from? And That's why he started thinking, okay, so maybe these ancient traditions from cultures around the world might have some clues in Yeah you know, some of the old stories about Gods descending from the heavens and mysterious teachers arriving in these early civilizations Even like we talk about like angels and biblical accounts and ye just these legends of hidden worlds existing right alongside our own Even Native American traditions, Egyptian traditions, all these stories from all these cultures seemed at least in his view, to kind of point to that humanity had interacted with these non human intelligences for thousands of years So then he thinks, okay Well, maybe they're just coming from beneath our feet. Maybe they're not coming from far out, you know, at all. And that's this is what kind of pulled me into this book is because we we just were talking about this. the USO's are, you know, living under the ocean or, you know, in these underground systems so I was like, okay, I gott to check this book out then Amazing and Like I said, you might you've probably heard a couple of these stories, but Like I said, I wanted to pull out the The Mount Lassen story, so U again, no date on this But it had to have been before nineteen ninety when this book was written. Okay, assuming it was somewhere in the seventies based on all the other things we've been talking about, right. But yeah I'm assuming it's the seventies But this is a guy named Ralph Fields and his friend Joe, actually Hey, and they were living in a Manton in Tahama County, which is again about forty five minutes from me here You know, I've been down there a couple times actually with my previous job to deliver packages and it's it's nothing. There's like five houses.. It's a really small little town And and it's not that far from Mount Lason actually or at least the base of it and Yeah, so they're reading this arrticle about Guano You know, that that thato. Yeah Apparently at the time, it was considered really valuable at least valuable enough to prospect for it because it could be used as fertilizer So' like he Here's a brilliant idea. Let's M maybe there's somewhere around the caves around Mount Lasson. Let's It's gott to be chock full of this guano. So They pack up some you know, basic camping gears, some tents, food, flashlights, all that stuff. and They head into the mountains and you know, they're expecting Nothing more really than just exciting couple days of hiking and maybe finding some poop And first couple days, that's exactly what happened. But then on the third day, They're about seven thousand feet up the mountain. It's getting cold You know, nights coming on and they decided to stop to making time to stop and make camp And they find this little sheltered spot Wow, that came out weird. It little sheltered spot beneath a large rock outcropping and they started setting up all other tents and all that. and Joe's going around looking for firewood and Ralph is cooking dinner and All of a sudden Joe comes back and he's like, dude We just hit the lottery, found a cave And he's like, let's let's go explore right now But since it was getting dark, Ralph is like I we should wait til morning He's like dude it's a cave. It'sark there whether it'stime or not. We're going to be using flashlights either way. Fair point. Yeah So they finish eating and they're like, all right, let's go at least take a quick look And so they get to this little cave and it's a really small entrance at first go in about twenty feet twenty feet into this little opening, it opens up into this larger passage about ten feet wide, eight feet high. And they're looking down this thing with their fl flashlights and they can see like about a hundred yards before it curves off to the left and the floor kind of slopes downward a little bit. so they follow it and they follow it more and more, more tunnel, keepep going. Bnds again, keeps going you know, at a certain point they start getting a little uneasy because they're like, u We're really deep inside this mountain now, but they're like Well, I mean, it's a cave. It's basically one straight passage. There's no like side tunnels or branches or anything. so the We're not going to get lost, you just got to turn around and go back. so to keep going So then they're like, oh, you know what, there's no bats, no bat poop. There's no animals or anything. just more and more tunnel And then they start looking at the sides of the tunnel and Ralph notices that the tunnel never really changes The width stays about the same, the height's about the same. They stop and actually take a closer look and they're about like one or two miles in now they guessing. And they're looking at the walls of it and they're like, this doesn't even look natural anymore. The floor looks really worn smooth, like almost more like an old road And The walls look like tunnel not like a cave, like more like a tunnel, like the smooth kind of Me and me type a look to it and that It was smooth because it looked like the rocks had been fused together like it was heated or something. Yeah like feel Yeah, Ralph says it almost looks melted Yeah, like how they drill and then heat the sides of it and it almost make like a concrete on the outsides of it. So the material that you're using, you're also heating at the same time to fuse and then form a structure around you. Let's safe for to entry through Very cool Yeah So they're like, this is this is odd. this isn't a normal normal cave. All of a sudden so they see a light ahead. pretty far ahead in the distance in this cave and you know, at first Ralph is like, No, there's nothing up there. There's no way there's a light in here And then all of a sudden the lights blasting directly into both of their faces and they're just kind of blinded by it. and Ralph He turns his flashlight towards it and there's three three dudes standing there J regular ass dudes, just like middle agge, forties, fifties dudes You know, Levi', flannel shirts, wool coats, and The only thing unusual that Ralph noticed is that they they had these weird shoes on inccredibly thick soles. He said it almost looked like they were wooden he weird ass shoes. and I thought that was a weird detail to add in there and it It's not that it makes it more believable. It's just like, why would you If you're making a story up, like that's a weird thing to add in there It is, it is. Is it period appropriate? Did miners wear like back in the day, like some sort of time slip thing where they was that part of the uniform? thicker sole boots He seemed to think it was weird. So everythingthing else was normal. The Levi's flannel jackets, all that stuff And that's one odd anomaly. It's like something is just off almost like the men in black things how men in black cases how they're just just off just a little bit like, yes they're wearing a suit and driving a car but the car' is weird and it flos above the ground and they don't have eyebrows and lips, and it's really weird Yeah just off a little bit, a little bit enough And so for a minute they're all just kind of standing there staring at each other. and Ralph and Joe are just kind of shocked because they didn't think you know, any other humans were anywhere near them And finally one of the dudes is like, Hey, what are you guys doing here and Ralph says, Ohh, we're looking for bat poop And obviously, the dude is like Right, sure They you know, they insist, no, that's seriously what we're doing. We're looking for bat poop in a It gets a little tense. they're still kind of talking, but it gets a little tenenser and And then Ralph starts wondering, oh, shit, maybe this is like a criminal hideout of some sort. like maybe This is their, you know maybe they've got some loot or something in here. Yes So he's like, All right, you know, guys, I think we're just gonna head back to camp. So they turn around, but there's two more men standing right behind them So it's blocking, you know, the only way out of there You Ralph, you know, is feeling totally helpless and He's like, okay, Looks like we're, you know, kind of screwed here and u One of the strangers says I think maybe you better come with us. Obviously, there's really no room for negotiation there. Yeah. Okay, guess we will. Let's go for a walk. Yeahah. Yeah So these five men start escorting him deeper even deeper down this tunnel or this cave He says they walk another couple miles and they come to something that just more high strangeness Right inside of this tunnel, they get to this little vehicle Ralph doesn't know what to call it even he said it's shaped almost like a sled or a tobogon He said the front curves upward and the bottom is made from what looks like this thick like copper per colored plate that was about eight inches thick And there's a really wide large seat in the front of it And this dashboard with a little dial covered with all these strange markings And in the rear of this vehicle, there's these two horseshoe shaped things facing each other and The other weird thing is that there's this teardrop shaped black thing hanging from a chain And none of these controls make sense. He doesn't even know how to describe any of this thing, but this teardrop shaped black object seems to be like the key to it What are the men that? jumps onto it. he touches it to one of the first one of the first symbols on the dial on this dashboard And the machine starts meeting this low hum. and he said it sounds like a battery charger This bright green arc appears between the two horseshoe shapes in a Obviously, none of this makes sense and they're just kind of triripping, you know, the machine starts moving. And he says it's not rolling or anything. It's just U It like floating. It's just smoothly and silently floating forward But then the guy who's driving. so all of them are on this vehicle at this point and they're just kind of floating along and he touches the second symbol and all of a sudden, They go faster and then he touches another symbol and then all of a sudden they're just flying down this tunnel. Tamn. He said it's going so fast he could barely breathe Like Willy Walker sty Yeah, just zipping down this tunnel in this weird ass contraption. That's what all this sounds like like a rescue rangers from the nineties. rememember that cartoon where they used just put shit together out of thimbles and things that they just had laying around at their scale, these mice. buildu these weird contraptions and stuff. It sounds like one of these things and then again, mixing it through with the Willy Wonka theme. It's like got all this special high tech, but it doesn't look like it would function the way that we think it should Yeah, cool. and I mean, this is just his you know, hisis description of what's seeing, you like, I know what else do it's a horseshoe shaped things and a green glow, whatever. We think the horseshoe shaped thing, you think a magnet, right? L one of those big cartoonish kind of magnets. And then if it had a m between it, maybe it had something to do with electromagnetism or something Right. That that's what it seems like. They said it was also utterly silent Right What they have to put sounds on electric cars so that people couldit hear them and stop getting hit by him They had to make the make noise Yeah, they have little spaceship sounds and all that because they're so silent that if you're not really paying attention, you're just getting clocked by one of those things. So they had to make them make noise So something electric would be pretty quiet Luckily, since it's got this green arc, it is It's got light at least so you can see it. Yeah. and if you're on your phone walking around up in the Normyville up here with all the muggles, then it probably be a little different than in that cave with that thing zooming around. And maybe something about the environment the rock around it has something to do with the way that it functions Yeah, could too. yeah the cour' in the mountain or something. But he can't even estimate the speed they're going or the distance they've gone because it's just He's like it' everything's just crazy right now. and He notices this black line running down the center of the passage and but the vehicle seems to follow it automatically I like a rail likeike a track, but yeah, but he says it's floating. So How bizarre, how cool And then they see far, far ahead coming directly head on towards them at a veryery fast speed is another green glow He's like Oh, we're going to wreck with these things, but Instead, all of a sudden, both vehicles slow down almost instantly and they stop about two feet apart from each other Like it was an auto thing, you know? Yeah, proximity thing Yeah. and the moment they stop, the five men that are escorting Ralph and Joe, they start panicking and they jump out of the vehicle and try to run. The occupants of this approaching vehicle step out and fire some sort of blue beam Interestingly He said it was like a pencil thin shaft of blue light from these gun looking things at like Luger style grips And it just sweeps across the men and all five just collapse instantly. just' dead. Shit and This is the part that's weird and why I call it chaff is because these This is whered it is weird. Yeah. This is the part, okay. He says the newcomers approach, but he doesn't describe What these people look like like he doesn't describe them as alien So I'm assuming they just look like They were They are the same type of craft that the other guys were riding in. and then as they got closer proximity, the things recognized each other slowed down. the guys in the approaching craft got out shot the other guys who automatically knew that something was up, got out and started running And they got taken out almost like a mutiny faction or So because it seems like they knew one another They know who they are in that. Oh, o Yeah, he says these gun things are holding. He said it looked like Oversized fountain pinens attached to Luger style grips with this round bulbous sections at the rear of them phasers Yeah. So some Dr. Sus would shoot at you it Yeah, something like that But so they're pointing these things at Ralph and Joe now And they're like, Oh Great, we're dead D. and So one of these guys with the gun says, are you surface people And Ralph is like guess I that's what we were before now, but now we're in here and The stranger just says, didid the Horlocks find you And Apparently, these five men they'd been traveling with were something they called Horlocks. The stranger tells him that Ralph and Joe are lucky. He said if the Horlocks had taken them any further They would have become Horlocks too. What? And then they would have had to been killed as well. No almost like fairies. Like if you were to venture, because did they give any food or drink? They didn't. They just had them on a craft So that's enough, I guess, if you ride in their craft for a certain amount of time, if you spend a certain amount of time travel a certain distance with them or reach a certain point within the mountain then you are now Is it a horlock with an H like a hard H Calard H H O R L O K S Okay or look. Yeah, maybe there's some like invisible boundary you pass and then you're hor loock.,' to aor loock. Yeah. ike state lines, but these invisible lines really do mean something. Yeah. Yeah So these strange new people or they're like, okay, so you're not Horoxs cool So they're a little friendlier And so Ralph starts asking questions like know, who are you people? What's this place? What are these machines? How do we know you're not a horelock Yeah, can we leave? You the answers are like really classic like ho earth type stuff. sure. One of the strangers says that u You know, there's ancient technologies hidden under the earth, These technologies are left by the ancients, even the people who operate them now. They don't fully understand how they work. they just know how to use them and that they do work. Oh, like they came across them like in that movie Atlantis. Remember underwater movie Disney long time ago. Like really cool. Michael Jon. Okay. And they had the technology, but they didn't know how to use it. And the girl figured it out with with the necklace thing and then that they could interface with it with that That's fascinating Which is funny because of the black teardrop shappe thing. Right. now I'm thinking of that chain. Yes. Weird Yeah, but he says there's good groups underground and evil groups underground and the evil ones create problems not just below the surface, but also above it. And he says, And The reason none of this becomes public is because nobody would believe it And then he says, so the sled thing that you've been riding on, all we know is it works through gravity. So the copper plate underneath never actually touches the ground. It floats several inches above the tunal floor to the black teardrop thingy hanging from the chain is apparently pure carbon and is the key to the entire system. And he says, again, we don't understand the science behind it just know how to drive them muger. So That's interesting. J just a foundound tech and they were very revealing about it. they were forthcoming. Yeah. man, we don't know. just do this. We don't know. It goes fast and it's fun. 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Is there some handshake that they could know to determine to distinguish warlock Horlock rather, excuse me, between underground people like the good kind and then the Horlocks? didid they look any different?be It's their shoes. It might be the shoes, isn't it? I just thought of that as you said it. I'm looking it up to no apparently The demon AI won't pull anything up about thicker boots in pastimes. I've found some clog looking things, but I don't know if that's with that. but I mean, again, you think thick boots, you think those clogs now fairies, this Hor loocks, interesteresting. I know I've never heard that word before. It sounds like something off of Like is that Dr. Seus or something?. And I mean, if you think about mispronunciations of same words, it means same things like warlock and horlock sound pretty similarly. Maybe there was just somebody with a l Magical Warlock. Yeah, magical horlock So yeah, they teach them how to operate this thing. but yeah, they leave them with that warning that like we could never permit you to leave a second time. So This is the last time you're going to see this, L time you're going to see this machine. Here's how you work it will even tell you how to reverse its direction and get the hell out of here So Ralph is driving this thing all the way back, but he said he kept to speed lower than before because the earlier ride just scared the shit out of him And eventually the sled just glides to a stop by itself. They get out, start walking Walking and walking He said what it seemed like a short trip To this point now just feels endless. and they finally they reach daylight. It's late afternoon which means far more time had passed than they expected because it was like evening like at dusk when they originally entered the cave What if there's n dilation or something in there? There's got to be something because he said It didn't feel like that much time had passed, but it was late afternoon the next day. Or when they were traveling on the sled, maybe there's some sort of an effect or they went like you said, much further than they because they had sense of you have no sense of time underground. And then you've got no sense of distance when you're traveling that speed, right So I mean, they could have gone Days underground in that thing and not known. How weird ye? because it's gravity also That type of craft allegedly creates like a gravity field around the craft. And so who knows what kind of temporal distortions can happen just within it by hopping on it for a few minutes. Just by being near it even maybe. The dudes don't even know. They're like, man, Jim got on the thing. He aged like eighty five years, took around the block, came back age like eighty five years or. we don't know. but just d if they came out and it was like fiveive years later. Yes, yeah. they're younger. They get Benjamin buttoned. so they just take a stroll down the road when this thing, glide back. they're freaking young again. Hello. Oh hello. Hello. So they don't waste any time though. they just GTFO They're like, we're done. Joe's like I've had enough mystery for my entire life. Ralph, he remains pretty obsessed by this and years later, he's still wondering What the hell that was? and, you know, were there more ancient technologies, other places what the fuck were horlocks? Right. Who are the people who killed them in What was that gravity like just all these questions and he keeps Despite all that, he said he was tempted to go back, but he always remembered that warning. and he's like, no I'm It's not worth it Man Which what a shitty thing to be left with, you know,' It is because then such adventure. Because then it's like, what's the point? Like you say in some of this stuff as well, how we get to you know, the effect of the people' what's very important here, but what's the point of having something like that interacting with it if you can't go beyond that and that's just it. Right. Just bizarre. I mean, because yes, now now you're just left with this odd sort of okay, well what the hell What the hell was that? and I guess I'm just going to go continue to live my life. I don't know. wouldould you go back in even despite the warning and everything You knowew what's funny is a lot of times these stories they go If somebody does go back, now the cave isn't there anymore. Yeah you can't find the opening sealed up or something like that. Yep, it does I don't know if I'd go back though. Depends on how. How much I put my pants you know, when we were when I was in that cave. Right, rightight Man, what a good story. Okaykay. I mean, way like like you probably more way more questions and answers in that one, but okay. And whole lots. nothing's coming up on the search on that either. How bizarre becausecause nobody would believe it. see That's right. Perfect Another one, he does include a couple stories Or at least one of the Dul base. Okay. But I decided to leave that one out because I found a better one or Oh, better than a real. Dul say underground Chimera hybrid experiments. Yeah. Better, you say Joe. This is what I mean by him. he calls the book underground alien bases, but a lot of them Maybe it's just alien because it's we don't know what the yell it is. you know old people and such. Yeah, Ant people. But then other ones are just overtly definitely military at least partly military and that' No different than this one here and this is u A lady named Christa Tilton and she was like editor of a magazine called Crux Magazine. I'd never heard of that one, but this is H. K me. Yeah, her own experience was July ' eighty seven. So you know, an eighties kind of weird metaphysical alien magazine, but She u She had come across these two cases of these ladies in They And one of them actually was investigated by Paul Benowitz, The O and only. and These two women that she'd come across these cases had said that they had been taken to some kind of underground installation And at first she avoided, you even reading their stories because it reminded her of her own experience. And she's like Okay, I'm going to read them and she goes through them and was super shocked by how many similarities there was to her own story Like I said, her own experience occurred in July of ' eighty seven and she had experienced like these three hours of missing time So she got a hypnotic regression and she recovered these memories And she's like, this is the most bizarre night of her life by far She said the first thing she remembers is not going voluntarily. She says two small alien beings physically dragged her toward her craft after knocking her out somehow. And I And the next thing she remembers is waking up on a table inside this small vehicle. When she kind of came to, she's greeted by what she just calls a guide In The guide gives her something to drink. And at the time, she didn't know what it was, but she later concluded, o, it must have been some sort of stimulant because after she drank it, she didn't feel sleepyer or groggier or anything she is fully aware Don't drink it Do you drink this weird liquid if they give it to you Jo I don't know, it depends on how out of it you are. She's probably in a dream like state, not even just o, what And then she kind of snaps out of it. And again, these are all recovered memories from hypnosis. So Are you offered food or drink in your dreams ever H No, I don't think so actually. Okay I don't eat a drink in my dreams, typically. Which is interesting because that's a big part of your, isn't it Yeah That is weird. I'll have to pay attention to that. Okay So after they give her this drink and she kind of snaps out of it, she's taken outside. She's looking around and she's like, Ohh, we're on top of a hill and it's nighttime Uh off in the distance you could see a little light in And it was close to what appeared to be an entrance to a cavern or a cave And so her guide is leading her towards it. And as they come close, they see that there's a guard standing outside And it kind of caught her attention because he wasn't dressed like a soldier in camo or anything. He was he was wearing what looked like this bright red military style flight suit, something maybe a pilot would wear Okay, bright red though? Yeah. Nice and discreet. Yeah, okay. He also had a, you know, an automatic rifle or something and had some kind of shoulder patch insignias and all that stuff. and Uh, the guy, you know, they greeted each other like they already knew each other and they go into this tunnel and then she's like, oh, this isn't a cave This is a facility that's built directly into the side of a mountain. And they come across another armed guard and behind him is kind of this checkpoint. And she said she remembers computerized equipment and cameras mounted on both sides of the entrance into one side was this groove or a track of some sort where a small little vehicle carried people deeper into the complex Doesn't say this one floated, though Right, differentnt tech. They couldn't figure that out. but they they thought the rail was a good idea U On the opposite side of that, though, she saw what appeared to be a long corridor filled lined with offices So it's this weird underground office complex in a But her guide leads her to this track thing with the little vehicle on it. She says they traveled for what felt like a very long distance before reaching another secured area And She said here or she saw something that she would see repeatedly throughout this whole facility where she was instructed to stand on what looked like a scale. And right in front of it was this computer screen, know with flashing lights, numbers and all that stuff And she said the machine seemed to process information about her And then it issued this card with holes punched into it, which she thought, oh, it must be some kind of identification badge or something And then she she's like, where are we? and what is this place? And of course, her guide doesn't answer The only thing he told her that they was that they had just entered level one then they moveved to this huge elevator And she said it looked like a giant dumb waiter because it didn't have any visible doors They get in this elevator and they descend to what the guide says is level two. And again, more guards, more security the same identification check And And She said this one looked like an enormous office building And this is level two again, so deeper in the mountain. She said there's long hallways with computers and employees moving around everywhere in cubicles and She said the only thing she found odd was the lighting She said she couldn't figure out where it came from She said it was fully illuminated, but she couldn't locate any visible light fixtures which comes And a lot of stories with the inside of UF's, doesn't it lot of stories and one I'm really thinking about here is the one that we did not too long ago. Forgive me because it blurs together here, but of the woman who was taken She was in her home and then all of a sudden she was in that gigantic dome with all the cubicles everywhere Yeah that could be one of these facilities like sort of inside of a mountain. We think of a craft and stuff and time deolish and whatnot. Pocket dimensions cool, but a craft could have taken her to this thing or maybe it's just on the other side of any reality. they want to phase you through. Oh, now you're over here, now you're over there. Yeah. just like jumping on the Now it's Eastern time zone. now it's a central time zone. like you're on that time zone line, that imaginary line hopping back and forth. you're in this dimension. now you're in that one. is this huge facility I was just it's giving me that vibe. 'use it was very clinical so weird. Yeah. And there were a bunch of human, normal people there doing their normal business, but then there was that gigantic thing in the cape. How was that dude at the caape if you remember Yeah. Yeah. Well, that's the thing. is she said there's people know, employees that just look like normal office employees just walking around. she said what struck her was that nobody even paid any attention to her There's employees walking by constantly noobody even looked at her Nobody, you know Nobody acted like anything was unusual It was like she belonged there or something And eventually they get to this this gigantic open area and she said it looked like a factory floor And around the edges were these small like alien craft and there's technicians working on them and somewhere underneath performing maintenance, like you know, changing the oil on these things. Fictred these little grays in the coveralls and one of them's on the with the wheels on his back like rolled under the thing getting oil on him. He's like That's exactly what she says. Yeah. She said this is when she saw her first gray and several of them were performing what looked like routine labor So they're just going around, you know, changing brakes, all that stuff. taking the tires. Yeah, but none of them again, none of them, you know, the Gre's acknowledger and they didn't even look up. they just continued about their robotic work And again, security cameras everywhere. She had the feeling of being constantly watched which probably why nobody was paying attention because they're like, we just must do our tasks. otherwise we'll suffer the wrath or something. Yeah, everyone's being constantly watched. Yeah. So they come to another elevator And this one took them all the way down to level five. She said immediately something felt different All of a sudden, she was overwhelmed by this fear Again, another thing you hear in a lot of these cases. Yes All And she said for the first time, she seriously considered refusing to continue. I'm like, really, for the first time, this is what that's how they lost This is the line. Yeah. Yeah But her guide said, don't worry, you won't be harmed as long as you, you know, remain with me And she said level five was noticeably more militarized the guards were wearing different colored uniforms and it was kind of more of a tense atmosphere. There's people shouting orders these two guards came out and were arguing while constantly looking in her direction. so they're definitely Definitely a different level now because they're noticing her and looking at her. Yeah She said she got the distinct impression she wasn't supposed to be there. but her guidess with her. so she's like, okay. sort of like takeake your kid to work day She said but before going further, she was ordered to change her clothes. and she was given what looked like, could you guess Oh, with the butt open and everything I would imagine. I'd like to think it was. Why wouldn't you get a coverl like the guysys? Why don't you have that? Even on Doubled dare they had freaking' speedsuits for everybody that competed and got slimmed. You could have a couple of pizzaots laying around. Why you gotta have her in a gown? Come on, man Can I at least have my skivies on? Yeah And she said once again, she was processed through one of those scanning stations And said this time the machine made these strange noises and frequencies that hurt her ears And then you knows something else guards that were there saluted her guide Even though he wasn't dressed like military personnel But he did wear this dark dark green jumpsuit But it didn't have any visible insignia or anything, but everybody treated him like he was obvious authority. Okay And then she starts smelling this weird chemical smell She said She immediately recognized it as formalehyde because she had you know, some kind of a medical background, I guess, but She said the smell immediately made her think of laboratories and preserved biological specimens. Oh yeah And then she's staring straight into this large open room that has these massive tanks in it and they're about four feet high And there's these computerized gauges attached to them and mechanical arms extended down inside of them. and She said something appeared to be stirring inside of them. and of course she tried to get a better look, but her guide pulls her away and he's like, Nah, you don't need to see that. It only complicate things. Yes, like okay So we don't get to know what we're in those Have you seen the elite images of the Duli base A I think Yeahah, I think so. This is exactly what you just described Yeah If you guys Google Dulsay Base Leaked images, it'll pull right up. These things look like they're in suspended condoms almost. Yeah. And it's these bags that are sort of holding, but this is an alleged And this came out a long time ago, didn't it? I think so. Yeah, Thomas Castillo leaked this image to the public. He and his family are missing and presumed dead by the public Well, we wish you well, buddy. Thanks for getting this photo out Not with a potato camera, pretty decent actually Yeah, that one's actually it's not blurry. As far as grainy hidden leaked photos go, this is a really good one But yeah, that's why I thought it was funny is because it's This very well could be the Dulay base. She doesn't Right. See the pods above. doesnn't this look like the bottom things that make the Matrix vehicles fly whenever they get out of the Matrix, you know? Oh yeah. Th little electric pads on the bottom and it looks like it's just this connected to the ceiling. What a cool image. You guys just this is very We don't need to link anything, just Google it wayay before AI did. Way before well possibly. We're hoping way before AI, but look at this. No finger while we can't Yeah, that one's got digits. How weird I won't spend any more talking about hoto you cancus on it. It does. look at that Is that right there Bro Greepy. Anyway, yeep. A it I'll link something. I'll link it, whatever. Check the links, guys for a Dulce paper So yeah, so after they moved past these weird tanks, she said the next stop was a laboratory. and this is Where things became a bit personal. She said having worked in medical settings herself, she immediately recognized the environment, but she said the equipment wasn't familiar So they had machines that looked nothing like anything she'd ever seen before And then she notices a gray alien just working at the counter, doing paperwork.ud Actually not doing paperwork. She said she heard metal instruments clinking together and it reminded her of you know, somebody preparing surgical tools. Oh And of a tinkly, tink. paperwork would' have been more adorable. I picture like, I know. he gets cut a little bit and he's like makes a little noise when he gets a paper cut. So her guide tells her, okay, you're going to sit on this examination table and she said, hell. Yeah, absolutely. And he's like, hey Things are going to be a lot easier if you cooperate Why then another guy comes in right at that moment, a human man, at least as far as we can tell And she said he was dressed like a doctor, you know, white lab coat, ID badge. She said Everything looked entirely ordinary about this guy, except where we were at the time. H And the doctor and her guide shook hands and then the guide said all right I'm going to wait outside And she just starts ballling She says she cries when she gets frightened and she was terrified. Her guide goes outside, left her with this doctor dude and then another gry comes in. No Yeah has. Did he have a cape No. Okay. Not that she mentions. All right. She said then her memories became fragmented because she recalls becoming drowsy and you know somet some type of examination. She said she rememers seeing a gray staring directly into her face with those large black eyes And then all of a sudden, a sudden pain is this stabbing feeling and she screams in the The doctor, apparently human doctor, immediately put something cold on her abdomen and the pain just went away. And she's like Please let me go, let me go, let me go. But the examination continued in When it was apparently over, she was again, her memoryies fragmented, so who knows how long this went on But I They gave her clothes back and she noticed blood and believes she must have started her period Hmm What Yeah, so meanwhile, the guy and the doctor were talking in a corner as if nothing unusual had happened. and she's just like, I'm so helpless, like this lab rat, guinea pig type of thing and Afterwards, she's like, Okay, what S seriously she's deanding answer. She's, what is this place? Why is this happening in her guide only said that, oh, it's a sensitive facility. and You'll probably be brought back here again in the future. And he refused to identify the location. And obviously he didn't what's weird is they must be aware of the ability to recover some of these memories Because even though they're apparently wiping her memory, the only way she can recover them is through hypnosis. They're still careful about not saying where it is just in case Wh is which is odd. There are some things that can be planted even there for your hypnosis to recover and then just go, oh, well, that's enough and then move on. like we got the answer we needed. Okaykay, see ya. And then you're satisfied with it. It's another level to the layer there. They plant these like inception things about what happened. And man, we're going to get into the extension. It's dark and deep, but we're going to plant some Sciop type things that could have to do with the manipulation of your ability. Maybe they're not graves at all. It's a human my lab program that's very dark and very cynical. that's making you think that it's something else through some sort of technology. Yeah. Various ways that that could be achieved We're going to talk about it in the extension, but man when you get to this kind of stuff, it gets icky. When you get to the grays, it just makes me think that insects sort of possess this infrasound that can stun prey. And there are a few who can do this. There's a pistol shrimp and all kinds of stuff And again, if we're talk at scale or if it's another dimension or yes, if they're in Earth and they're just another cure that's already here, like these ant people that the hope you describe, maybe that's what they're talking about. They the big asss or the ants or the mantises, but that these things can stun you and that's why they need to be present while this human doctor's here is like, all right. Get the gray in here, knock her out so we could do our thing because their presence or some ability they have is what actually knocks you and allows them to implant whatever kind of memory they want. Almost like the men in black thing, but It's a creature, we think. Right. and lot better than just using anesthesia or something. It has to do with memory, displacement or removal or addition or whatever. It's a packagage deal Then again, if that's true. Maybe all of this is an implanted memory and it's not even, you know, it's like, how do you know which part of it's true and which's not? That's the part. That's the part is that this elaborate ruse was the implanted part when something else could be going on to Absolutely. Yeah. Yeah, really detailed screen memory I mean, how with how weird it is, it's like But then you're thinking that maybe like AI could craft you a visual experience that whenever you are in this state, I guess, they can sit you down in front of a clockwork orange type mechanism and you basically just watch a movie about what you say that you did and there are smells associated with it and all that kind of stuff that throw you off a little bit but also connect to this perception management will call it. and then now you're like again, like the men in bllack. I hate that there's so many damn pop culture simple references for this, but he had to sit there and explain to them what they then believed afterwards. He did the flash.. It was wiped then he implanted a memory for them. There could be some elaborate system that goes to play with all of this ' could just Like you said, could be simple and it's just a gve messing with your mind, but So they get this isn't even the end of this I mean, it's almost we' almost at the end of this story, but gee, wow. She takes another transit car and they cross over the section of the facility where she saw what looked like people standing upright inside transparent chambers which She said at first she thought there were mannequins, thenen she wasn't so sure. There's these tubes extending from both the humans and nearby animals There's cages, living animals, these technicians that are working. Again, nobody spoke or acknowledged her. So they're in this other area of it. She differentiates it from the tanks that she saw earlier. and this one actually sounds more like those pictures you just brought up the Sxies yeah Yeah, these transparent chambers with tubes coming out of them. And that is what that photo looks like. Yeah, check the check the links, guys that's in there. Yeah Again, these workers, you said, you reminded her of factory employees just performing these repetitive tasks, just botically doing their job U And then, you know, Here's another thing too, all the folks that walk around and aren't looking at her and everything, do you think that they're sort of red flashy things. When they get to work, they're like, boom. and then they get put in this state, they go about this automatic action they're not consciously there and then their consciousness is given back to their body when they leave. Have you severance That's a show called severance on Apple TV. That's the exact premise is that when they go to work They don't know it. as far as they know, they go to work and then They wake back up and they're leaving work And did during their whole job. they have no idea. they it's like two it's like a personality almost because their work person is a totally different person than they are on the outside Exactly. And so you're like, man, he was a dict to me in the office, but it wasn't him. that That's fast. That's exactly what I'm talking about. They don't know who their coworkers are because they're all like that. So they could see one of their coworkers out the world and not even know that's a coworker. No way. That's crazy. great show. And then you think of Well I was thinking of this because of the Geneva flights, right? They all get on the flight, these alleged Red stripe, no numbers or anything that fly out of Vegas and then they fly to allegedly arerea fifty one. they would flashy thing you right there on the on the tarmac. You would fly there land, do your whole damn job and then they would give you it back when you landed. So you would just literally get on an airplane, think you're leaving for the day like the night people and fraking Rickin Morty. you'd be unaware of your actions. You'd perform them immmaculately and then leave with no conscious recall. Wow, And those folks probably can't be hypnotic regress because they probably plant Memmory is there at that those first couple of layers. Bsar man It's creepy to think that could be possible. Well's how they we do that we don't even know. When you think about how many people need to be involved in this. Yes, we know that not all of them know and it is compartmentized, but that doesn't mean that the action doesn't need to be performed by a conscious human, it just doesn't need to be conscious while it wass doing it. You know what I mean? And that's probably where they go with this rather than the NDAs and threatening your family. I mean, you get someone drunk enough or sodium penthol or hypnotically regressed, they just pop some shit out that they didn't know that they weren't supposed to say. So this is the ultimate plausible deniability Mm. Wow. And plus nobody would believe it like we heard in the last story And then they just implant what you're doing. Oh, I worked on the O rings today, huh. Oh, wow, yeah, me and Tom we went to lunch We had this vivid memory of all the shit that but you never did any of that shit. You dissected an alien and sewed a lion's head on like a lady. Wow. Uh, so yeah, when she sees all these what she calls factory employees. She's like, okay, this isn't operated solely by aliens, obviously. There's military personnel deeply involved in this. The security becomes even tighter and they apparently attempt to access level six and they were stopped And another argument breaks out with the guards And she said she got the impression that you strongly objected to her being there And her guide later told her that level six contained living quarters for personnel, as well as experiments that had, quote, gone bad Oh, but you live down there too. So that's cool. So you get to hear the beast screaming down the hall while you're trying to catch a nap between shiftss. Yeah fuck But yeah, acc according to him, or this guy, what existed down there would be too upsetting for her to understand as if it hasn't already been. Right. Oh, that's the line. And then there's allegedly seven levels there. When we first heard about it from Phil Schneider in the nineties, so maybe they've expanded since then. And level six is a trip for her Right. Seven's just straight hell, huh? Probably It just plays the frozen themes song the whole time. That's all it is. That's all that's down there. So eventually they get back to level one, they get out of the mountain and it's still dark outside and she assumed she couldn't have been gone for very long She's taken back aboard this craft and she she says she remembers the sensation of departure, this this, you know, quick acceleration in a So they' long. as just said they descended again sometim later She said she never saw outside because she was strapped into the seat the whole time Eventually she felt herself lowered to the ground through what she describes as a beam, so classic, you know, tractor beam type of thing you know, just floating. and in the distance, she could see her aunt's car and she walked back to it. She drives all the way back to Tucson the next morning her friend, Barbara, she noticed some large scratches across her back in On then was she like Oh, weird, something weird happened last night, didn't it? Oh She couldn't remember what it was. And all of those memories were blocked until way later when she got regressed. So She didn't blood on her or anything? It doesn't say it just says scratches Oh, but I mean, if she started her perer, did they give her a tampon or anything? like to because she probably did They probably did something fucked up to her and then cleaned up the blood She just thought in the moment in the regression that she had had her period in that moment, Ugh But she couldn't recall what they did to make the blood there. un evenven under hypnosis, it was so blocked Yeah, damn So I think they gave her some other kind of drug or like you said, the the gray alien thing, like they did something else to her while she was under some kind of influence of something. Double ditter Double ditter. ye Yeah. And it seems like you're almost taken to, I mean, I hesitate to call it another dimension, but to a place where things function so bizarrely that your mind is having a difficult time trying to figure out where the hell you are and what's going on just because of all the pattern interruption that you're experiencing. and nothing makes sense. again, like even the things about the lights, like Nobody paid attention to her. She couldn't find light sources. Those things will really rock your sense of reality because And I'm sure you do this. You go places and you're looking at a structure, you're figuring out how they put it together, how it works, how it functions And if you're looking at something where all of those things remain mysteries to you, That's pretty tricky to your psyche and it can take you out of this space so much that maybe you are in a completely other realm to where those memories aren't retrievable because there's no context. I mean People are it would be like someone going, okay, Joe, here, here is an exact psychedelic experience you had. Go ahead and tell us about it. E explain it from your perspective now. Yes, you can relive the experience, but how would you 's it's ineffitable, right those things. Maybe And you'd probably tell it different every time anyway. He would. ye Yeah, and it's it's so funny the way that she talks about the first, you know, the entrance it just looked like the inside of an office or the outside of an office building but inside the mountain. and then it just got weirder and weirder the farther you went down. So you got to imagine that not everybody there knows everything that goes on there. right. You know, the first levels like admin It's people, you know, faxing things, data entry, doing all the boring stuff and Yeahah, payroll, shit like that No idea what's going on, but, you know, level five and beyond Those horrible screams. Oh just's they're running a drill down there. I don't know. Yeah, it's practicice to work. I gotta go down to level six and drop this payroll off. I hate going down there Dising nightma So yeah, there's a bunch of these stories in here, but I'm going end on the The big one, this is the rainbow city, the capital of the underworld. Okay Yeah. Again, according to Commander X here in Again, not real specific on states or anything or how any of this really happens, but here's the story. how fine. He says this is a The most important city in the entire underground world, and this is beneath Antarctica H. It's you know, it's not just like an isolated colony, it's like the city.. And he says it sits inside the Eth near the south Pole and serves as the last active center of an ancient civilization, supposedly descended from the original colonizers who arrived on Earth from outer space Millions of years ago What a start He specifically says these beings established a tropical civilization in Antarctica about two and a half million years ago back when The continent looked very different than it does today wear. he says Rainbow City isn't alone, either he says there are six other underground cities connected to it by these enormous tunnel systems. And these cities are apparently like dormant or mayaybe abandoned, at the very least, just like inactive kind of He said Rainbow City is the only one still functioning Oh, okay, but seven total Yes. Okay, which is interesting also because you think about the seven major planets, the seven truck rows, the colors, the entities, all And it's a rainbow.. And the city is apparently protected by hot springs that keep the surrounding area warm, which you would need to do if you're Intica. I would say so. B says beyond that are these giant gigantic ice walls, supposedly reaching ten thousand feet high and they create this natural fortress around the city And the idea is that if somebody you know somehow stumbled in the general area, they'd never find the actual entrance without knowing exactly where to look And I Apparently this begins, this whole story of the Rainbow City starts in nineteen forty two He said it was first discovered by a man identified only as Emory his last name is intentionally withheld. And but apparently he was a professional musician who had contact with this mysterious group called the Ancient Th. What professional of musicians were you in forty two? Were you like in an orchestra bigig band of jazz. Yeah, you were like the Beatles. Yeah. Okay. No. that manana took M my cllarinet all over that world. Yeah apparently, with the help of these ancient three, he reaches the Rainbow City and became one of the first modern surface dwellers to enter it. in a This account though comes from this privately circulated manuscript by Mr. and Mrs. William Hefferlin And these two apparently later became residents of Rainbow City themselves. So good for them home. Yeah. But according to their version of events Emory comes by aircraft And as he kind of like a our bird. Yeah. Yeah So he he's kind of flying the scen, guides the craft downward and he finds himself descending into what looked like a massive park surrounding this enormous temple complex There's huge trees again, so that's interesting for Antarctica. He said they towered over the landscape. There's enough room between them to safely land his plane N gets first his first look at the city and he said the structures were just massive. at the very center stood this huge temple that was capped by a massive pyramidal structure Oh. He said lights were glowing everywhere, The temple was illuminated, the streets were all lit up. He said the whole city just looked alive said that the craziest thing was all the color, which is I'm assuming why they call it The Rinbow city on the rainb. But he said It said everything was made of what looked like some sort of plastic like material They said everything was the streets, buildings, all of it, but it was all like bright reds and oranges and purples and greens, all these the colors of the rainbow thing but it looked asty, but he said it also wasn't like over the top. He said the colors just blended together into something that was surprisingly beautiful He said the city almost looked unreal Almost I would say it looks pretty unreal. It looks Unreal imagining. It reminds me of a dragon fly wings if you've ever seen those up close. They look incredibly like what they're describing as well as this is Raphael's vision for for the future city is that all the windows had this dragonfly wing like quality whichich if you've ever gotten glass almost. It is like stained glass, but I mean, have you ever gotten up on one? I mean, it is sort of waxy and plastic looking. It looks like Saran wrap Yeah. kind of it has kind of a metallicy type of look to it almost. It does. and it's got just this Breaky quality fractured quality. I don't know how to explain it. It's just really cool. and then all the different little segments there And with all those different colors. Very cool. They don't look cool from nature, I mean, pretty cool. Nature's pretty c Pretty cool So they end up going through and entering this temple through the ground level doorway. This short flight of steps led downward into this other room beneath the main floor And that opened into this huge chamber. And inside were all these carved pillars and tables and books and It was like some kind of a library type of place, but he said everything looked oversized He said that whoever built the place must have been at least eight feet tall because the furniture was huge And then they found something that looked like a throne, or maybe a machine. said it had huge armrests. that had these strange keyboards, you know, covered in unfamiliar symbols and this huge massive hide back to it. And there's a bucket shaped helmet mounted on rails that could be lowered over a person's head Seems like an electric chair to me Yeah, look an electric trip, but maybe fly the craft that way, or maybe you shoot your consciousness off somewhere in it. I would think something like that because underground in this temple thing. I don't know if they're flying it. Our realm uses it to kill people instead of send them off somewhere else. Well, technically it sends them off somewhere else, justust leaves the body behind. Yeah They said cables ran from this weird helmet thing and cables from the footrest into this wall that was filled with dials and levers and all that stuff He said the room itself had a strange quality because again No visible lights, but everything was illuminated There's no shadows anywhere. There's zero like dark corners. just he said the the light seemed to come from the room itself whichich is exactly how that last story described it kind of So they're just kind of looking around and Emory is looking at what looks like a lamp attached to one of the tables, but he couldn't find a switch. So eventually it just kind of twists the top of it and this brilliant beam of light shines down onto this open book on the table And he said he opened the book and the book started talking It said a voice came out of it speaking an unknown language H And as the voice was speaking, these individual groups of symbols on the page lit up one after another. When the voice stopped and reached the end of the page H page would turn and it would continue And then if you close the book, it just went silent. These explorers eventually nicknamed them the Talking Books, which is a great name for them Yeah, but it's on autolay Yeah. so that's annoying. I turn that shit off on my apps. I don't like that. Don't with me, right when I open you, you know what I mean He said there was these carved pillars that were covered in all this information. he said one showed the solar system Earth was green, Mars was red. He said lines and symbols appeared to connect the two planets for some reason He said there was other carvings that had like mathematical systems and geometric diagrams and what appeared to be an alphabet He just became obsessed with learning the language and he knows this stack of books that were arranged numerically And so the first books turned out to be basic primers the alphabet, picture books, simple vocabulary lessons U even, you know, things about the solar system like names of planets and objects and buildings, just basic type stuff. and then arithmetic too and they got more and more advanced as he went on And but all of the The funny thing he said the second set of books repeated everything, but added spoken instruction So the alphabet was pronounced and the numbers were pronounced and everything was explained out loud He said the books were effectively self teaching educational devices. What's weird about this is that they're exploring all this and he doesn't talk about any people being Even though they said all the six other cities that are apparently connected to this rainbow city word defunct or inactive in some way and Rainbow City is the only one that's still There doesn't seem to be any people done. Be he doesn't mention meeting anybody That's kind of a weird detail, too Maybe that's the only way a city can function. You have one or two homies that hang out, you know on separate wings and you make it work because if you get a lot of people in a place, they end up destroying themselves Yeah, I mean, that could be. But they just they decided to try out this giant chair with the helmet thing Okay. And it was some kind of learning device. And so each person that was there sat down, which is Emory and the two. The name was Mr. and Mrs.. What it I started with an H. It's Heppererton H Everlyn, maybe? Everln, you see Everlyn, yes U So yeah, they sit down. And they try this giant machine And they secure their arms with the armrest and the helmet gets lowered over the head and the machine activates and there's just like vibration that passes through their brain and nervous system And after they do this, everyone just found it easier to learn. So they could understand the books and speak the language. It's like the machine accelerated their learning or something H really weird. Yeah. It sounds like sci fi. Well, like the Matrix He sits there and he's like, Oh I learned kung fu and he's like, show me. You know what I mean? He learns things in like a minute I need to download to how to hot wire a motorcycle. Is like okay Yeah, exactly. Very cool Uh But yeah, there's there's just all this there's a whole section of here that just focuses on like the more like them learning all these weird things, you know, but U Was any of it in contradiction to what They already knew like the established fact, like were there extra planets or were they like, hey, your goverment's actually lizard people in masks. I mean, everybody knows this It doesn't really go into detail on that. is atomic weapons or bullshit. Yeah Yeah But I mean, they're just exploring this whole thing. He said lights came from the walls, the heat came from the walls, air conditioning came from the walls. He said that the entire environment was just this climate controlled and utterly shadowless He said the city itself was carefully planned. I mean, the tallest structures were around the temple. fararther out the buildings became progressively smaller uh, homes sat on these nice spacious lots and there's gardens everywhere and said there is no slums And no apartment blocks so that's nice. No Tesla trucks projects. Oh, definitely no Tesla projects. All But then so they get into this other place. He said, One room was supposedly function as a giant viewing device capable of observing the past onvisor, not like a television, you know, Yeahah, kind of like that. He said it was a machine that could literally tune into historical events . And we've heard that before. I can't remember what story that was. It was something similar where it was almost like a Holographic type thing, where you could go back and watch any point in the past and it's not like you could interact with it. You could just observe it, but it was like three D, like you were experiencing it but it still happened the way it happened, kind of idea Yeah, the Chronavvisor technology allegedly was exactly this. Project Looking gllass, they had rabbit out in front, they said on a pedestal as you walked into this part of the facility just a white rabbit like you were going down the rabbit hole. And this is allegedly where they took pictures of Christ at the crucifixion. You also had Linoln giving the Gettysburg address, then allegedly this information was used to form Project Pegasus, which Andrew Busiago, again, allegedly. participated in. he dressed up like a kid in period appropriate clothing and went back to the Gettysburg address, for instance and hung out with Lincoln and watched him deliver that as a peasant child dirty back in the day we' in the stuff Th because of time loops, he saw himself viewing himself scared on one of the other runs. So it's just trippy as a kid you're seeing this and it's This is why you don't mess with the past, huh Yeah, I would imagine. But not everybody's got the moral compass, you know, so they're going to go back and fuck with the past if they may be. Yeah. But connected to this viewing room was a doorway called a portal Nice te. Yeah. He said that by configuring the equipment correctly a person could walk through this portal and just instantly appear anywhere on Earth. Thatounds so cool Let's do that, Joe. But yeah, the portal supposedly, you know allowed people, supplies, equipment to move across the planet instantly. So why they would need a physical way to get to the city is kind of well, I guess maybe you can't go back through the Instead of one way portal, I would think portals work either way. And then yes, like you said, why have a gate or a door at all? If you've got a portal, you portal yourself into a fortress of solitude inside of a huge block of ice, dumb that thing off from the inside and don't have a door the portal your door. it's Porta. It's a portal in Span. It should be. Well, and that's the weird thing is that it says They could even go to the moon through this portal Although very specifically not much further than that So their technology you could walk through the portal and be on the moon, but not much further than that. So I would assume Yeah, you need a way back If you're going to go the moon. So it's got a limited range or that's as far as you can go as there's nowhere else to go. Like Bill Nice says, closed system. Yeah, just it wasn't powerful enough or something, but I would assume for the most part, the moon's about as far as you want to go, right? They're like, Oh you a shitty portal fucking three thousand dude. that model sucks ass. You can only go to the moon Uh But yeah, so there are other accounts too. There is one that was attributed to T Lubingerampa They describe Rainbow City as a meeting place for the wise beings from Venus, you, masters of powerful telepathic abilities and Right So it almost comes comes around to like, yes, it's active People just go there when they N to to meet whatever reason, like Mount Vernon I never really get I mean They're basically saying it's It's Atlantis at once. It's also Agartha or Shambala. It's you know Ancient astronauts, wisdom of the anci it all becomes this thing and it's like It seems a little too neat. to be Yeah It seems too nice And the fact that they didn't really meet anybody there, but then these Mr. and Mrs B call him Hellerin All They're apparently a heferlin. They're apparently Some of the newest residents of Rinbow. it's like This is the only thing that annoyed me about this book is there's no I mean, how do you follow up to that really But it's just a story and then he's like, anyyway, soen this other crazy story and just moves on to the next one. it's like, Commander X, come on Come on, Commander. There is something more. Focus, Fus God, one thing at Yeah. It's a fun collection of weird ass stories. So if you want to get that I'll definitely link to it in the show notes, but it's If anything, it's just a fun read because there's stories in there I had not heard before.m like what It sounds amazing. Yes, Commander X underground alien bases. Well done. I would have picked that book up too. Thank you. That is amazing. As soon as I saw it, I'm like, oh yeah, this is it. I'd gone through dude, I think I told you I'd gone through like three or four books that looked promising and now I feel for Ben and Aaron because that's the exact same thing they do. They're like, Oh, this is perfect for the show. and you get into it and you're like, ah, it's dead end it's too close to another story like this This popped out and I'm like, Yep, this is it Season thirty five episode twenty five. That is it. Wrapping it up wrapping it up in style. Well done, sir. Leaving us on a massive cliffhanger because now we have to do more underground bases. There's so many things to talk about when it comes to that. There are heaps more Oh yeah, D' say stories and I know we haven't even talked about Phil Schneider or anything like that. Darcy Weir has a great movie on him called The Underground and just kind of covers the case. but either way, lot to look forward to with all of this. man, very cool. wayay to wrap it up. Oh yeah. What a banger to go out on, outstanding. Yeah, so thanks everybody for chilling with us for this whole season. We'll be back again, like I said on the free feeed on july tenth and back on plus on july seventh So everybody have a great, you know, july fourth, have a great weekend Don't miss us too much, we will be back. And if you sign for plus, you can listen to all the other stuff. so But yeah, what's coming up in plus again? Remind me? We're going to wrap up this sticky situation we've got here with this alleged alien hybridization program. We're going to call bullshit on probably all of it and see if there's something deeper going on because there definitely is Joe.. We've got a couple more stories to relay that are disgusting and awesome. and then one just absolutely bad shit crazy over in Africa. going to be linking all the things necessary for those if you want to follow up, definitely Join us in the links below for this extension as well as for plus because yes, that is our first showback for the new season there and we are very excited about it. Be gone just about a week or so and then we'll see you guys there for sure Plus extensions riddled, guys, come check it out. We're gonna wrap all this stuff up. Hide all up in a bow for you and send you off happy and not with blue balls Awesome So yeah, stick around if you're on plus for everything coming up after the break. If not, we will catch you in about a week and a half on the free feed. Have a great one and we'll see you then Welcome to plus Extension as we wrap up this season thirty five with a. Hear that That's the sound of busy. 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