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If you feel like typing the URL you out yourself, it's noFspodcast dot com slash Fnd Club That's where we're gonna be publishing our Drive home from the Drive in Reviews of new movies that are in the theater, where we'll be publishing our too long didnid't Watch miniseries. and also what's keeping us creepy episodes, where we give a bit of a roundup of what we've been watching, what's been keeping us creepy while we're recording the new season of the show This weekend we're going to be talking about Scary Movie. We're also going to be talking about a slasher that we just watched for the very first time that no one talks about. I feel like a hundred thousand people should have been telling me to watch this movie and I've never heard anything about it and it had some off my new favorite scenes from an eighties horror movie You know, if you're looking for a summer movie, something about going camping and about crazy assholes in the woods that are trying to kill you and your friends, you got to check this movie out. can hear all about it in the Fiend Club We also throughout the summer wanted to share with you a podcast minieries we recorded a couple years ago called Midnight at Camp Blood where we recap and review the entire Friday, the thirteenth franchise, starting from the beginning going all the way to Freddy versus Jason movie that I think we have covered on the podcast more than any other movie. The summer is the time to watch the Friday the thirirteenth movies. Jason Vorhes is one of the most interesting villains because of the evolution of the character across thirteen different movies. It's a franchise that we love revisiting, that we always underestimate how much we love. and this podcast miniseries was a lot of fun to put together Just because we got to revisit some movies that we don't always watch like a new beginning, which I think I have a new appreciation for. But even the first movie that we're going to be talking about today, the first Friday the thirteenth movie, the best rip off ever made because you probably already know, Sean Cunningham saw what John Carpenter did with Halloween and said, I gott to get me some of that And that's how Friday the thirteenth was born. But when you rewatch a movie that you've seen one hundred thousand times, you start to every once in a while, you notice something new, something that you've overlooked or ignored, or something that you're seeing from a different perspective. But anyway, hope you're having a good summer. Enjoy Midnight at Camp Blood. You can listen to this entire minieries right now by joining the Fiend Club on Patreon There's links wherever you're listening to this. But you can join at NoFspodcast d. com slash feed Club Thank you so much for your support. Thank you just for recommending the show to friends. That's a free, easy way to support the show. But either way, for everything you do, hope you enjoy this episode. We'll be back again with another one next week, but in the meantime, enjoy midnight at Camp Blow Howdy Fiends! and welcome to another terrifying Fiend Club exclusive episode of Nightmare on Film Street. We've dug a grave just for you Joy. And when she turned back the covers, she discovered he had no hair Man, don't you miss campfire stories? Damn. being scared of campfire stories? I'm saying that like I wouldn't be scared now. Like if you told me a story around the campfire and then, o, now go to bed in the woods. I don't even need a campfire story to be scared in the woods. Like we we have the projector outside, I'm sure you've seen the photos and it is in the middle of trees. L it makes us keep the fucking lights on There are bears. A bear ate the cover of the hot tub. A bear's not gonna show up if he hears Jason for's Tarantine's apart. He just hears any noise. No not how delicious our popcorn smells. Okay, there's that. I guess that we need to start. brringing out We need to get bear spray, John. I do not feel safe without they sell it at the convenience store by our house. If they sell it at the convenience store, it's probably a must. Right. Like the only things you keep at a convenience store are things that you absolutely have to have and can't go without. Also, it works on Bears and Jason Vorgheses Nothing stops Jason fors. I think some bear spray wood. He might Or a banana peel? Banana peel might. You you gotta get real creative here. It depends what part Jason we're dealing with Uh and and, you know, Given that we're talking here. Oh, hey guys. Friday the thirteenth, nineteen eighty, not a whole lot of Jason Vores to deal with. I think right now all we need is a body of water and we've got ourselves covered. Welcome to midnight at Camp Blood, a very new podcast series from Nightmare on Film Street, just for you guys We just finished up the neverever Sleep againg series, recapping all of the nightmare in Elm Street movies. and we had so much fun doing it that we wanted to jump into another franchise and we knew that Friday the thirteenth was the way to go. We had to get some of these out before the summer ends Yeah, we've covered a few of these on the podcast. The first couple might be a little redundant. Hopefully we don't have all the same opinions this time around, but we love these movies so fucking much and nothing embodies somemer quite like Jason Vorhe's slashing campers at camp Crystal Lake. So we set this up and it's going to be a blast. Yeah,'re not we're not trying to stay awake for all twelve movies. But you know what? everyverybody loves a gimmick. so we did especially us. We do love a gimmick. John, do you want to tell them how we'll be doing this series? Yeah, so Midnight at Camp Blood is we are living the midnight at Camp Blood life here at nightmare headquarters at home We're watching every single one of these movies outside on the projector in the woods, the atmosphere where either a bear or Jason Vorhes could come out and attack us at any moment Any fucking minute. And we're trying to watch these movies at midnight, recording immediately afterwards. Yeah, so you're still gonna get some sleepy vibes Right? Yeah. if you enjoyed us going like, Ohh, man, I'm just tired. Who cares about this Freddie guy? You're gonna get at least one of those. Also in this series. We're totally going for atmosphere. I don't know if you can hear, but we're outside right now sitting around a campfire. Fucking bugs. Okay, well, the original plan was to record outside, like set up the recording equipment and the projector But we realized very early on in our watching movies outside experience, it's fucking damp out here It's real wet. It's nuts. like you set up the projector and the DVD player, even just your chair. before the end of the movie, you're like, why am I damp? Everything's wet. So didn' I didn't really feel comfortable bringing all of the recording equipment outside, but I've recorded a whole bunch of ambiance Yeah, no, we're giving the vibes. Everybody, you close your eyes, meditate, you're sitting around a campfire. Oh, what is that? Oh dear God, No That a bear spray. No, everything's fine. Get ready. We're gonna talk about some scary movies. And kicking off our very first episode. Surprise, surprise, we are talking about Friday theirirteeenth from nineteen eighty, the OG Insert trailer Mith. Th things we were just messing. Beif S in my imagination Seven Can I help you? M Hello! s You see it once. But that will be enough. Friday, the thirteenth I'm gonna come ahead and say it. And this is not something I would have said five years ago, ten years ago, maybe even two years ago Moday the thirteenth is the best horror franchise. I feel like we've said this on the podcast before. Yeah. I think I don't wna I'm not ready to say this first, first episode out the gate, first film in, but it's pretty solid. That's 'cause you know there's a few in here you don't like, which is silly because the ones you don't like are the best of the franchise. We'll get to it when we get toem. All right But maybe there should be a little bit of an asterisk beside the word best. I think it's just the franchise that solid. It's the most solid. Yeah, it's consistently entertained. It's the most consistent. It's the best bang for your buck. And maybe maybe it all comes down to that summer vibe Because I fucking love watching these movies in the summertime. Oh yeah. I think the real inspiration for this podcast series was two years ago. I think it was in the middle of yeah, it was early pandemic when we were all going to drive ins and just watching classic movies. We saw the original Friday the thirteenth loocal drive in in the middle of the woods, and it was like we had never seen the movie before in our lives. I had almost a horror epiphany. The eyes were reopened. Yeah, the stars are out, bugs are everywhere. And the sound was shit, but we had it so loud that you know like the speakers were struggling and it was crackling a little bit and you're like, wow, it feels just like nineteen eighty. Yeah It's the closest you can get to time travel without a flux capacitor It was a transcendent experience. And and I gott to say we should really be watching this movie Friday the thirteenth first day of summer. I think this is how we should fucking kick summer off Because this it is this movie kind of just feels like summer. This one in particular. It's also great for a summer wind down though, because like it's the death of summer. Okay. You're killing kids. But you have to you gott to come in early. You're killing them in their youth, you know, before I guess so we're watching this August, like we're not fully through summer But we haven't matured yet into fall. This is the right time to do it. Yeah We're taking suummer down and it's prime But yeah, there's one thing that won doing these series taught me and also, yeah, the pandemic with just a lot of free time is that creating a vibe around your movie watching is so next level. I know a lot of, you know, a lot of people are doing it for the Gram and they're setting up these really cool like Halloween living rooms and stuff. and you're like, fuck, I could watch a movie there But I think curating your movie watching to the movie you're actually watching, like if you don't have a projector, not a lot of people have a fucking projector because they're like a huge situation to set up. Hey, it took us a long time to get this. We had like a blanket in the backyard with we were projecting from a phone at one moment. We were projected on a stolen sign It was like a coarse light sign that my brother had stolen as a teenager that was in the garage for like thirty years. It was the only piece of blank white that we had. And we were like perfect. And we nailed it to the fence Yeah. But yeah, like even just taking the smallest TV in your house and putting it outside and watching it outside in the dark. Yeah, like it's fucking It changes the game. Yeah, it's like a four D experience. You could even just get away with making a cocktail or a dinner that's paired with the movie. Yeah, or turning all the lights off and lighting every single candle you own and just arranging them in the center of the table in front of you. That's a vibe Kim loves. I do it all the time. My We need more candles. And hey, if you live in an apartment and you can't get out, you can, you know, open the window, get some of sounds I guess, that's gonna work Yeah, get those crickets Let a cricket in your house. Oh yeah, so yeah, you can put on you can put on some ambient sound from your phone so that way it sounds like you're outside. But I also just love make putting trailers ahead of a movie. Like I make it I pretend this is something that we did in the pandemic because I was just desperate to go to the fucking movie. I mean you've done it for the Fie Club a few times. You've made them trailer reels. Oh yeah, I love I love the experience of pretending like you're at the movies, especially for an old movie. like I love ' I always try and find trailers that I think would have played ahead of Friday, the thirteenth movies that were released that season. Exactly from Paramount themselves. L they're the they're the people putting at the trailers. The Coca Cola ad from that year. That's pretty much my go to. you have a Coca Cola ad if I can find like a weird local beer ad like just like a small company that Bush Analyzer bought like with a bear in it usually. Th Those are always the best. But it's so good because it says you before the movie, you're in that mentality Exactly. I'm in nineteen eighty three. Don't you find sometimes you sit down and it's twenty, thirty minutes, you're into a movie before you're locked into it? Yeah. Because like you, okay, cool, I'm pressing play, but like in your head, you're still dealing with whatever fucking to dos you had bullshit day you had at work, a fight you had with your roommate. You can't lock into it yet like immediately. So the trailers, the drinks, the atmosphere, that helps set the stage. And then the movie is like this feature presentation. Yeah, and it like eventizes in. We are nerds. That's what I'm learning. We are just nerds I think we're cool. Sooky Spooky nerds, sure We're taking this a step too far. No. Okay. No. I Listen to this ambience. think you think this podcast would be half as good without these faux chirping noises? Yeah. Yeah. That crackling fire The sound of a stranger walking just beyond the treeline where you can't see.. So one hundred percent, I'm just gonna say this right now. I was planning on doing it as a secret, but if anybody wants to keep an eye out on for it, anytime we mention Jason Vores, I'm putting that in I love it. I guess we should talk about the fucking movie. Sure I mean, that seems like a good idea. That's what we're here to do. I'll kick this off by saying that I have such regrets. about being born too likeate. Don't you fucking like yeah, obviously we all want to be able to watch you know, psycho and see what it's what it's like without knowing the ending or the sixth sense or something. but Friday the thirteenth, especially is a movie I wish I could have watched with zero context. Yeah, every time I watch it, I try to like take myself back and I'm gonna do it with every movie in this franchise. Watching it like the movies that came after do not exist. Not gonna okay. So it's the most recent Friday thirteenth film every time I'm watching it. Sorry. And so I'm trying to not let any of the later films infiltrate my mind. they don't exist yet. Yeah, exactly and just enjoying it for what it is and what it's trying to do and pretending it is the last Friday theteenth film. Every single one you watch, it's the last one. I think you should do your hair for the year that the movie came out. like to really, you know, that is taking it too far. Yeah, but I mean, for you personally, you're like, okay, it's nineteen eighty. I I guess you could just match it to the movie. L I've got my Adrian King sort of It's you know, stradlinging and Kevin Bacon had the exact same hair They sure did They look like almost the same person if you just whiteed out their face with Photoshop. Damn. seeeeing Friday the thirteenth had to be such a wild experience because also the advertising, I think was fairly vague. just like A from the fucking psychopopaths that made Last House on the left comes the most terrifying movie ever. Here's the title Breaking through a piece of glass. Figure it out. Well, I remember they put an ad out in the newspaper for the film before they had anything done and they're like, no, we gotta capitalize on Halloween doing A Friday is thirteenth film. Get some broken glass and then have it exploding through the glass and full page And they did, and they didn't have any plot or anything. That's how they sold the fucking movie. But I I have to disprove your last statement because there's a trailer from the eighties where they go through every single kill. They go, one. Oh right kill. I to forgot to the face. Three. Arow through the throat. Right, No, that's true. And you're like, wow. This is worse than blow out. I know. we're also mad about trailers being spoilers now, but back in the day they were like, hey, here's the whole movie if you want to see the stuff in between the good parts you come by att. Back then you saw it once and you forgot about it, and then six months later, the movie came out. There was gigantic year and a half long campaign. Yeah, I've seen that fucking Brad Pitt bullet train trailer so many times, I don't even need. I don't to see the movie anymore This is the quiet car. like no. wouldould have been a great scene if you hadn't have watched it eight times already. And he drinks his fucking sparkling water and chucks out of that guy's head. That's a good move. I like that move actually. Every time I see him, I'm like is how you know he's a trained assassin. I did like the thk, sam Okay, anyway, Friday of the thirteenth. Yeah, but I just mean like You know it's a horror movie, you know people die, but you don't know the inner workings of what's happening. Is it a supernatural story? is it just a fucking psycho killer movie? Because there are at least hints throughout that it might be because Friday the thirteenth is a superstitious day, you know? Well, yeah, because we when we're going to the camp You hear all these rumblings about how the camp has a death curse and the camp is cursed because they kept trying to reopen it. and the cold open is one of those instances where they tried to reopen the camp and somebody got murdered Well, a couple got murdered I'm going to try not to be the nit picky nerd here, but like that those that's the year after Jason died. That's the that's the kill that closed Okay. And I think the The tow truck driver mentioned that in nineteen sixty two, a few years later they tried to reopen, but the water was bad. Yeah, which And I was gonna say the water being bad, like that leads for kind of a supernatural thing, like their' sour soil, like blood vada Zona? Is that a word? In the twenty twenty six Kyusportage Turbo hybrid, it might as well be, because it can be one road trip. It's all about turbocharged power and hybrid efficiency working together. So you get the thrill of quick acceleration and the satisfaction of fuel efficiency. Book a test drive and keep the adventure going Kia, movement that inspires. Call eight hundred three three three four KM for details. Always drive safely. Yeah, it's just like it's just bad. likeike it's it is genuinely a cursed place Because we don't know why kid drowned. May Maybe the kid drowned because there was something in the water But yeah, Yeah, A ores. And two, the first time we're really seeing Alice and we get Alice as a character, she's on a fucking ladder. And if there's anything that's superstitiousy, it's ladders. And she's not she's not one hands on she's holding like nails and I'm surprised there weren't like black cats walking across people's paths and like somebody walking under the ladder. Like I'm surprised there wasn't a whole bunch of goofy, superstitious stuff Yeah, I mean, I think they are really leaning on Halloween because nineteen seventy eight Halloween, you have Michael Myers walking through the house in that stunning POV. They really lean on that for the killer in this one. Yeah. And something really fucking cool. And as I was watching this, you know, pretending I had never seen it before, pretending none of the other Movies in the franchise existed The characters, especially in the beginning all either recognize the killer or are not immediately perturbed by the killer.. So I mean, knowing who it is knowing it's Pamel of Vor, you're like, oh yeah because she's not an immediate red flag She looks yeah, she looks like a lady you'd get in the car with if you were hitchhiking. Totally. But the fact that everybody's guard drops that you're just like is this killer? Especially Steve Christie, right like, Oh, hey, he get like just like a half a second of like, o, I'm so happy to see you. Oh my stomach. Yeah, and that's not good And And the campers who were like fornicating up in the attic who die in the very beginning, they're like, Ohh, we weren't doing nothing. We're just gonna go back downstairs and like And yeah, they're definitely caught by the cook, right? They would' have recognized. Yeah an employee a senior. You loved that that this time around, you're like they were singing Christian songs with that guitar before they went off to havealf sex Just felt a little hypocritical to me. Oh yeah, no big surprise Also that camp Crystal Lake was at some point a Christian camp All camps were Christian gams. I think hell even isn't the Boycouts of America still kind of like a Christian organization? It's still kind of The other thing that I noticed this time around and it kind of tags onto your Pamela Vor' thing about nobody being scared of her is that the music only like like Jaws Harry Manforddini only has the scary music show up with the killer. That's kind of a given. but like the thing that I'd forgotten about is that there are scares in the movie, like when that shit head launches a dart right into the target as Brenda' setting it up. And there's no music sting on Like it's a scary moment. It's kind of a bit of a jump scare. It's not just, you know, it's not as good as like a cat and like aroundound coming out of the out of the closet or anything. But it is a moment that's supposed to make you go, Oh, shit. And you know, because it's a horror movie, you're maybe thinking that the killer is behind her. but there's no music behind it. so it's not it's not immediately as scary Huh. What what's fucking brilliant about that is that Ary Man Ferini, I mean, like this is all classic horror movie stuff, but it's done so well and it's done, you know, fairly early on in the use of this where you know, he brings in the scary music as somebody's getting stalked by the killer, but then the music goes away right before the kill. So like even if you're not paying attention to the music, your brain is relaxing for a half a second before the you know, before the fucking arrow comes through his b godamn throat or before an axe gets dropped in that girl's face, there's a moment where your heart And your lungs go, o, we can take a second to breathe. the fuck they got us again g. Yeah, the score is really good. I think that the moment that I noticed at the most of the very end of the film when Adrianne King thinks that she's all safe and she's in the boat and it's like this like la la la Happy shit. And then when Jason jumps out of the water, it switches over, but there's no break in between No ites from A serenely survived. It's the morning. The cops are here B. Fucking classic. What I'm really getting at with the music there is you were doing this thing last time we talked about this movie where you made us watch the scene and go, Okay, you are Adrianne King. You're Alice. When do you know? I This is the woman that killed all of your friends I was really paying attention to awareness Paying attention I was I was paying attention to this scene this time around that because I was really trying to clock the music and how Harry Manferdini was playing with that and literally like it's it's all just sad music. She's discovering the bodies. likeike it is one of the scenes in the movie that has a score That isn't a scary score. But literally as soon as she says the word Jason, like a boy died here. H name was Jason, you're d L we go into the creepy music. It's quiet. Well she starts looking offah' looking over at you could see it in her eyes. L when she looks back at Alice, you're like, oh, she's a fucking cobra snake and she's standing up and I gott to get I gotta back the fuck out of here before she sinks her venom in me Props to Pamela though, the kills in this movie are fucking ace. Yeah, this is her second time around killing people. and she's a. She's coming out of pro. Fucking retirement. You would think she's been training the whole time. Yeah. you had the best theory in the podcast that when we covered this film. that she didn't know anything about the reopening of the camp until she gave Annie the ride to the camp and Annie like, yeah, we're opening it back up L la. I'm going be this la la la. Okay and she's gonna to be the cook.' the other thing. Like literally the cook picks up the cook. She has to come out of retirement in that fucking moment Do you think she lives in the area Be she ch she only drove into town because of the camp. I think she still lives there because Steverist She's friends with them. St still familiar. They have the same fucking cheap. That That's a good move. I like that too. Like thats that's a genius move by the end of the movie because You associate the Jeep with Steve and anyway, we're getting too into the it smart shit. It' so great. Yeah, I love I love just thinking about when she becomes the killer. Like is this her mission now where' like the camp Stays closed. No matter what. like she heard that they were going to try and reopen in sixty two. so she fucking poison the water. Like she's just like dumping barrels of toxic waste into the lake. She's Betty White on the other side of the lake. inststead of feeding the alligator. She's just like dumping rat poison. Yeah. Yeah yeah. So like she's done everything in her power to keep it closed or does she just hear that it's happening and then immediately flips the switch like Norman Bates and Ms.ates. I mean, boy does she ever flip a fucking switch? She's got a oh yeah, but she also can just wear them That's my fucking favorite part about the end of this when you know that it's Pamela Vores because she's literally tossing bodies through the window at Alice. L, you scared yet? Like she's really taken her time It Saring the fuck out of Alice. Like here' here are all your dead friends and then she gets into she runs off, gets into a Jeep, and drives up to be all nice to her. Like she didn't have to do that. After she's like put a body in the rafters and all kinds of shit. Yeah she's got muscles under that sweater. That's Yeahah, can you imagine? like if we ripped up that sweater, wed see that she's been fucking pumping iron for fifty years since her son left? She's just got a photo adjacent in like an empty garage Like I'd love to see what she could mean toress At the very least we know she can bench press a full adult man Well, yeah, because she lives spill in that fucking gas in where the generator is. Oh ye because it pops out from the rafters, right? No, because she has him hanging on the door. Oh God, I've completely forgot about that. That's right. man, there's so much going on in that one kill because he' he's pinned to the wall. He's got impaled with arrows. Ipaled with arrows. hisis throat is slit She really went to town on Bill. Also alsoso she threw Brenda through the window. I don't think I could throw a person through N a corse. Not with that big heavy boat rope on her. That's just' heavy too. I couldn't throw the boat rope I actually be wet. Yeah, it with all of her clothes. Damn, that's extra weight My favorite kill though is absolutely Marcy's kill in the shower That one's grown on me. You know, it hits me every single time I watch it because I think I know what it is. I remember what it is. I even have the visual of where she is in the shot and where the axe comes in. Yeah. but it still like hits you when you see it. It looks great. I think it's because she's a little bit alive when she's falling Don't say that. Like No, this is a fun movie. I don't like that. I is like blinking at like She's reacting to the brain damage. like dam Hits you in the fucking gut. Now she's so cute When she's like in the shower and in the bathroom on her own. she's doing her Lizzy and like she's doing her, um Les a Manelli impression? It's so fun and so cute. Also, there's something even more gut wrenching about it. She fixes the sink because the sink isn't set up yet. Later on in the night Brenda comes to brush her teeth or whatever. And she uses that sink. Yeah. It's just the fact that we saw it get repaired and what happened there previously.'s Oddly dark moment. It is. I used to laugh at that moment, especially when Marcy turns to see her killer holding the axe and she just sort of like freezes and I think right before getting hit. but There's a moment fifteen minutes before that where she's explaining to her Kein Bacon boyfriend about this recurring nightmare she used to have about being trapped in the rain and then the rain turns to blood and it washes everything away. I remember talking about this so much in the in the original podcast. just never paid attention to it. just like, whoa, what the fuck is Friday the thirteenth doing? And this is where like the supernatural kind of stuff comes in, right? Like this is this is the fucking final destination moment of death where you realize you're gonna die and you've had a premonition about it, but you can't tell anybody because you're dead. And like pouring outside. It's pouring outside. She's in the shower. She's's gonna get covered in fucking blood So like I think that she's just so paralyzed because of that. likes like oh fuck, this is this is the dream that I've been having. Like I've seen my own death a thousand times. Well, in that she's turned around and there's a woman holding an axe high above her head. I mean that's going be sc. Yeah. I mean like I'm probably not like karate chop like it's my reflexes are't not that good I'm probably just like, Hey, cool ae like that. Also she's like post cooidas, she's in a state of bliss. We went from Z Petite death to Lrande Mort fucking props to that sex scene. At first you're like, wow, this is really gratuitous. This is going on. How are they allowed to show these Kevin Bacon humps and these like faces of ecstasy? But then the camera pants back And their dead kid has been on the top bunk the whole time. Right? Oh, it's just so fucking good. How did they not see? they were so horny they couldn't see their own dead friend on the bunk above them. It's just pure perfection. It seems like a good time to mention, especially with the gratuitous nature of the sex scene and the All of those It's not gratuitous. it's just really romantic. Okay. Well all I'm trying to say is we watch the unrated cut, like the un Oh, we just got four extra pumps. We got from four ye Worth it Worth the Blue Ray purchase, right? Well' just like the acte in the face stuff. like we probably got a little more of it this time than we would normally have gotten in the theatrical cut. I definitely think Annie when she gets killed in the woods, she gets her throat slit and it looks very real. It's pretty fucking gnarly. Yeah. like Tom Svidi knows how to fucking hide an appliance. Like that's the biggest thing. Like there are plenty of people that do work just as good as him, but his His stuff, you don't see the seams on it Except I will say the Kevin Bacon arrow, like if you're looking for it, see it. You think so? I think when he recreates that in the burning, that looks a little more fake, but that's because that kid's neck looks like it's like ten yards too long. It still looks fucking amazing. Yeah you know, like I think we talked about this before too that these movies weren't made for four K restorations. four K didn't exist. So they're like, ye The film grain will hide it. They also weren't even just made for home video release. Like you're gonna see it in theater once, it's gonna exist in your memory, and it's gone Like it's gotta look real great for that moment, but then that's it It's passed. Also half the audience are gonna hide their eyes like this crazy man. Half the audience is making out. Yeah, they got four pumps and they didn't see the rest of the movment Kevin Bagon is a good boy run though I mean, he's fine. He seems decent. They all they all seem like decent kids. They are a shit headad goof. you know, someomebody's gott to do it. Somebody's got to come to camp with costumes and a weird sense of humor. I love when he's wearing his is it a fucking dolphin's jersey? As a diaper As a diie? When the cop shows up? It's perfect timing Yeah, I just love, I know we talked about it a bit at the beginning, but like I just love how much of a summer movie it is. Like all of the characters in this movie are in a completely different movie until they die. Yeah, and they're playing fucking monopoly. L they are having the rainy day at camp. And no one knows that their friends are dead. L no one it's the craziest thing. Alice is the only person who discovers that there's a murderer killing people And it's only after everyone's already dead. It's crazy how proficient Pamela is. Yeah. She is real good at getting campers while they're isolated. and it's so justified because the camp is so spaced out. They're all in different bunks. They're all doing different things when the rain hits, whichich you know, that totally makes sense. The three people, Alice and And Bill and Kevinacon Alice Bill and I think it's Brenda are isolated in the one main cabin because they were there when it started raining. Yeah. Kevin Bacon and Marcy are never even b bothered learn Keinacon's name. werere like, it'sev Bacon Yeah, Kevinacon. They were outside, you know listening about Marcy's weird nightmare when it starts raining, so they end up at the double bunks where you know arere like, let's get naked. Oh, I guess we're trapped here in this cabin. The goof ends up with the killer and dies immediately And it's great that he dies off camera because it makes that fucking bunk It Scares so much better. It's the best. Man. That's probably my favorite kill of the movie. And it's not even the kill, technically, it's just the reveal of the kill. Oh sorry I meant Kev B. Oh, sorry. my brain just My brain just immediately went to the arrow. It looks so good. It's so gnarly. It's also just that I don't know. something about her hand coming up and grabbing his forehead so he can't go anywhere is also kind of just like odd and scary. And on the little level of fear that the blood drops on his head from the bunk up above before So he's got a moment of terror like what the fuck is that blood spot on the on that mattress? He never gets to find out. Scary stuff. And as a horror fan, a completeest horror fan, I'd be really upset if I didn't get to find out. Yeah, right? Yeah you die without knowing that all of your other friends are dead or that they might die. You want to at least know that you're part of something. You know. We all want to belong to a group, whether it's a bunch of corpses or a bunch of horror nerds in a movie theater Yeah. the other thing like and it's, you know, it kind of goes back to to ripping off Halloween is that it all takes place in one day. It's mostly over one night. likeike we see them in the beginning of the day. We watch the sunset, the fog rolls in, the rain clouds come And and then everybody starts dying. I love a movie that takes place in a short amount of time, especially one day I don't think that it necessarily photographs the setting sun as good as say Halloween does, but Halloween's also Halloween's also a specific day that we all have really strong memories of being outside right as the sun goes down, like kids are just like, we gotta get the fuck out. It's twilight, it's dusk. This is our time to go out with our costumes. We'll do round two once it's darker and they don't know that it's the same kids. Yeah, I think that comes down to the fact that they're trying to set it on a Friday the thirteenth This is when the kill goes down. That becomes less important. Oh, yeah, no. Especially's birday. That's all that matters Yeah This is Jason'sirthday. It's my birthday I'll kill kids if I want to I do think we should spend a little bit of time talking about Alice as a final girl because I don't think she gets a lot of credit and I think it's because she's a little too frightened. She gets a lot of frightened moments. She does a lot of redundancies. like she'll whack the shit out of Pamel Vores and then run away and then whack the shit out of Pamelvores and then run away and then whack the shit out of Pamelvoris and then run away. Yeah, surprise surprise I mean, she does whack the shit out of Pamela and then run away. Like Pamela has black eyes by the time they have the final showdown. Yeah. because she has knocked the shit out of her. and like kudos to Pamela for getting up every time because she she survives like frying pan whack, fucking I don't know, other wax. Yeah, she hits her with as much stuff as she can. Yeah, like they have quite a few rumbles before the final one The thing you notice about Alice and she has such a goody goody look like she's wearing a full button down, high ass jeans. She's got a pretty prim haircut, very plain face, no makeup, whatever. She's obviously not so much like Marcy or the other girl. She's not as outspoken, but when they're smoking weeds, she's smoking weed. you're playing strip mononopoly, she's playing strip monopoly. She also maybe slept with Steve already. That's what I wanted to talk about. All right ye. Her fucking relationship with Steve Christie, who's definitely an older gentleman. Yeah, is questionable. Yeah, and it seems like it's already over. It's a weird kind of romance that he definitely has the ups of the power dynamic. and she doesn't really want to be there anymore because I guess, you know, maybe she was like, you know, we have to stop doing this. We can't do this every summer or something like that. No shit. Like whatever that situation is. And he convinces her to stay, which is sad because like all that shit that goes down. Yeah, there's something there that the film doesn't really elaborate on that just they set it up and then you're just like, Yeah and I, like that's that's kind of how it would go at like a summer camp. You're like, do these two have a thing? I think they might have a thing, but like you never know anything about it. because then also too, you you leave and go back to town. You don't see these people again for a whole other year. I think I think maybe people don't give her credit as a final girl because she doesn't do anything to become the last person on lasting. It's kind of luck that she's L glass. Yeah. She's just never alone Exactly. She's never alone and and when when she is left alone, she's inside. She's kind of the final girl because she falls asleep We should all do that more. Like if you're at a party, have a nap, you never know, you might survive. That would be great though. You just wake up. Well, not great, but I mean, good for a movie. Oh yeah it'd be great if you woke up from a nap at a party and all your friends were dead Yeah. That's what everybody's looking forward to. If that's the start of a movie and your final girl just wakes up and is the only one left and you're like meike Well, if that's the reaction, that's also great. like whyy does this always happen Like you're hanging with your friends like, Oh yeah, don't youate it? There's one person at the party who like stinks the toilet. You're like, oh yeah, don't you also hate it when you wake up and all your friends are dead, rightight, everybody? Isesn't that fucking suck friends with Alice anymore. Yeah, Alice kicks a lot of ass and she she goes toe to toe with Pamelavores who who seems unstoppable. Yeah, she cuts her fucking head off. Yeah. I think like like like a James Bond villain Pamelavores is, you know Achilles heel is that she wants to talk about it, which is great because she's gonna kill her She doesn't have to explain this to her ' she's gonna be dead, but she needs to tell her. She goes into full mom mode. Yeah. She' so let me tell you about my son. Like she's so proud I also just love the decision for Alice to climb in the canoe at the end and float in the lake because it just feels like, you know, she set herself up where she's in the absolute corner of the room, so to speak. Yeah, yeah yeah yeah. Becauseuse she's bricaded herself in a cabin. She knows that didn't fucking work. and just to be in a canoe in the lake and she thinks, you know, it's over, it's done But you're still like you're still adrenaline pumping, you're still terrified. you still have all that fucking fresh trauma. And If aunting and kind of perfect as a dayoument and then fucking they have that supernatural cap on the film where Yeah they do. Little baby Jason comes up and it's just like, I don't necessarily love when she wakes up from the hospital and all that stuff. I could kind of do with that like Where's the boy? Yeah boy. I think they could they could have ended it just right there. I would have walked out of the theater going like, what the fuck was that happening? Yeah. Because you have no full supernatural hint until that moment Yeah, it yeah, it's it's odd to have her in the hospital. But I guess they they they figured people are going to have too many fucking questions like it might bomb if we don't have anything about it. So if we at least leave it Yeah, we got to at least leave it with like maybe she hallucinated or or it actually happened and nobody believes her. That's that's probably the smart way to go. If you were making this movie now, you would totally just, you know, you would just leave it with that image. I mean, hell, you know, stepping out of the rules of the of the franchise for a second. likeike as far as the remake goes, that's exactly how they ended. Like Jason pops out of the water and we go to credits, baby But I love thinking that he's like one of those dinosaur pellets that you put in the water and then he's Oh, you just got away from to groweses. Like at the end of part one, they put a baby Jason in there. and then by the time we start part two, he's fully grown. Oh man, yeah. but it's a miracle grow of toxic pollution. So rather than growing to a good boy, he's a killing machine That's funny. So when we did the Never sleep againain series, we had, you know, we talked about whether or not Freddie had Hutzpah. We ranked the posters, we talked about the lair. Do you got some sort of criteria you want to keep for Camp Blood? Yes. So because we're kind of keeping in the theme of, you know, midnight at Camp Blood, we'reitting around with campfire here at Camp Blood I think we should write the camps themselves. That's a good idea. Each of the locations in the film. Okay, so we are saying locations. We're not going to maybe Knock a movie points because it's not at a camp, is that what I'm here? We're not gonna to knock space or Manhattan. Yeah, that's right, we're not. But the quot camp got it. The camps. Yeah. Obviously this one is fucking fantastic. It's the first one, so there's no way to like this is actual Cristol Lake. Yeah, this is the OG. I think the cabin setup is perfect for Isolating the campers especially as soon as you add rain. And I really like the beach in this one. I love the docks and the way it's set up and just how expansive it is. Yeah. it looks like a real camp because it is a real camp. Like it's it's picture perfect camp. Camp, camp camp. Yeah, A plus camp. A plus. We don't really have. well, I mean, Jason is in it. I think we should talk about Jason's design, Jason's look You know, what's what's he wearing? who's he wearing this year kind of situation? He is in it a little bit. Jason is walking down the runway now. he's wearing Lake He's wearing lots of decay, regret, grief, and the mistakes of two fornicating counselors. So if we're gonna to rank Jason's though, like I don't know if we should talk Jason in this one. I think we should talk Pamela. Look, obviously, we're gonna to talk about Pamela. She's wearing a killer sweater, but like for a half a second, let's talk about Jason. What do you think of that little boy? a kid Yeah. Okay. wayay to go, Jay But yeah, I think Pamela is a fucking fantastic killer. You don't expect her one because you don't think she exists until she's revealed. Yeah. But she's so disarming with her like, I am just a mom, look. That big smile too like, I'm not afraid. C on. it's this place just gets to you. Let's go inside and have a look That fucking sce when she's like, I'm not afraid. I was like, Oh, I know why you're. I know. Yeah. it was a cool idea to take a mother's love and make it evil. We do that a lot now. Actually, reallyally it's a mother's love that saves the day. So still a good idea to take a mother's love and twist it into this dark fucking motive for murder. But yeah, love I love Pamela's sweater in this movie So good they keep it around for a few other movies. It becomes Jason's Achilles, you. Right. For Best kills, obviously I am going to go with, oh, I want to pick Marcy, but I think I'm going go with the reveal In the bunk bed. It's not technically a kill, but it's a killt reveal and I think it's just such a perfect exclamation point. I think it's great too because we also don't know that he was dead. So that's the thing L it totally counts. You kind of assume, but yeah, it because he sees a person, follows them, and then we never see him again. So good though. My favorite kill like I mentioned earlier is obviously the Kevin Bacon arrrow through the neck, but my favorite scary moment of the movie is when Jason pops out of the water, I think it's fucking incredible. again slow motion. it looks inc it looks awesome on the water. And yeah, because like because of that sharp cut into the into a different score, it totally fucking works. Yeah. and watching it pretending you know nothing about it and I'm sure it pales one tenth comparison of what it was really like in the theater to see it in nineteen eighty pretretending that it's going to shock you, just pretending that you don't know it's there, pretretending like there's no other Friday thirteenth films Just how fucking jarring that is. It is Just a great way to cap off a scary movie. Fuck. Now we forgot to talk about ratings at the beginning of this movie. Obviously this movie was met with some pretty some pretty divisive reception at the time. Some critics liked it. Most critics, especially Gean Siskll went on a fucking campaign against it. We talked about that in the episode we recorded last year, so I'm not going to talk about it too much, but Friday the thirteenth, nineteen eightyies currently sitting at a six point four out of ten on IMDB A sixty three percent on rotten tomatoes and a three point one out of five on ladder box. Kim, how do you rate Fred of thirteenth, nineteen eighty? I'm gonna give it four to four. It's just a doped slasher. It is really fucking good. Here's the other thing. We are rating it based on having watched it outside. It really pumps it up, man. That's a half point bump I It's true. Yeah, it's a great start to the series. The finale' a little long and tedious. Yeah, that's why I'm that's yeah, I'm going three point five out of four. Like I was going to say four four seems hard. It's real high. I've got I've got some movies in this franchise that' I know I'm giving a four out of four. So I'm going three point seven five. Is that fair? Can I do that? Can I continually change my rating until we go to the outro? Yeah. Yeah, you totally can. Yeah, I would say that watching this outside I gave az point five Bob And just the entire cabin atmosphere gave it a point five bump. Yeah, no, it's it's honestly, I know none of the other movies exist Kamp, but it's the best camp of the movie like as far as We'll see what your rating is if that holds up. Okay. well, not I'm not officially keeping full rankings of all of this. We will rank the movies in the franchise. It's a little silly to do it right now, but number one in the franchise ranking of the thir.'rently holding the number one spot. Yeah. But I think we'll just point at the one the camp we like the most. This is my favorite camp. This is the one. Thank you so much for joining us here at midnight on Camp Blood. It is time to tuck in for the night. The Roster Crows at six AM. Or the trumpet blows at six AM? You have to find a putting out the fire sound, like we're wrapping up this is Are you afraid of the dark and we're wrapping up I was probably just gonna to pull it from are you afraid of the dark? Yeah That's pretty good. All right. Well, now that've've we've