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Like yeah, sure, we had a few beers while we watched this movie, but we also kind of turned it into like a crystal Lake cookout. We had two cups of corn each. Two cups of corn, some potatoes, hamburgers, hot dogs I'm ready for a nap. I am also ready for a nap. But it was honestly something about just like just like slowly grilling. Like we did it while watching this movie. It was pretty fantastic. It was pretty great. If we could do that for every single one of these, then that would be incredible. It's like tailgating your favorite horror franchise. How much wait Q question Yeah. How much corn, like actual literal corn do you think is in a standard sizeed bag of pot Oh, I see what you're saying is How many cobss are? Is it one cob? It's gotta be cobs. I would think it's about a cob, maybe even half a cob. Oh God. A bag of popcorn? Like we're talking like medium sized popcorn at the movie theater. So then we had a kitchen size grocery bag of pop unpopped popcorn. Yeah. like the end of the night, you got a friend who works the movie theater. likeike, hey, you guys want a garbage bag full of pops yeah I'll take that. That wass a lot. But howdy campers? Welcome to midnight at Camp Blood I'm your counselor John I'm your head counselor, Kim. Oh fuck! She got promoted when I wasn't looking. Its you know, it's because we're the only counselors left. Yeah, if you've made it this far, congratulations. You're still alive. You haven't What it done't man. Everybody's alive. They're all just in the woods fornicating. Eone Why are you saying that Just 'cause we haven't seen them doesn't mean anything terrible has happened to them.ret sure That one bed we found filled with blood, nosebleleed. Pret sure John is Roy F we haven't even thought that movie doesn't exist yet. Oh, you're right. Anyway, we are here today to talk about Friday the thirteenth, the final chapter. The window chapter. Yeah, it's the final installment after the last one, which was supposed to be the final installment. They had been trying to end this franchise forever. You didn't get my joke No because there's so many window deaths in this one. Oh Jason's preferred he's ditched the machete entirely for throwing or chasing people out windows That's a real good point. There's a lot of window stuff in this one. I thought you were trying to say like it's a window into the rest of the franchise. I was like, that's a little heady, but okay, cool. I just steam rolled past. I was literally like, there's lots of window stuff in this one Yeah, I love how everybody involved in the front of thirirteenth franchise at this point. We're like, we're ending it. It's done. We did it already. It's done. Even Tom Savini came back and he's like, we're killing Jason. Right? I'm only showing up so we can put this fucker in a shallow grave Anyway, here's the trailer for Friday the thirteenth, the final chapter Three times before You have felt Livved This is the one You've been screaming for Friday, the thirteenth, the final chapter. Jason is back. He moves like a shadow. Dark and silent. you change your mind? He never utters a word He doesn't even seem to breathe. have a carcroll. Simply Mindlessly Mercilessly ills. Jason's Rign of terror is over. Friday the thirteenth Chapter. Friday, april thirteenth is Jason's unlucky day Friday the thirteenth, the final chapter is currently sitting at a six out of ten on IMDB, twenty two percent on rotten tomatoes and three point two out of five on Ladder box I like this one a lot more than I remembered. Same. Yeah, I think it was the cookout. I think that's the way to do it. Okay guys, here's what you gotta do. You gotta watch it outside on a screen with a meteor shower above you, cobble corn, barbecue beside you, dogs staring at you longingly from the windows. Just recreate the experience we had There are a lot of fucking characters though. So many. and so many of them have a fucking T on their name. We got Tommy, Tina, Trish, Ted, Ted Harry, Harry. There's another one, right? We got the brother and sister, the twins and Ted. I guess that's kind of it. Yeah. And then we've got Sam and Sarah, like what the fuck is going on And then Paul and Rob d out out the cast. fuck, there's so many. There are a lot of fucking people because also on top of that, there's The like in terms of kills The scope of the film, there's the hitchhiker, there's the morg attendant. There's also the nurse. There's the mom Yo. And that's not even the teen characters. Can we? This seems like the right spot. I don't even have to ask for it. Weerere at the beginning of the podcast? I would like to talk about the cold open of the movie, please. Let's talk about the cold open of the movie. God damn. I love this cold open. What very Halloween too. Exactly. Like man, u it's such uch a good movie. Like I love it. It does feel like Halloween. I guess like Halloween too because we're in a fucking hospital. But it's just like a little bit of a sestep from the rest of the movie, from the other movies like, hey, cool. Yeahah, you're here for Friday of the thirteenth. We are in a completely different movie right now, just for this cold over Wh it kind of happens when I've already forgotten the parts that came before it in either part three or part two, where Jason goes and gets new clothes and kills the shop attendant. Yeah, I guess it's just not like that was just like goofy and all because it was a three D thing and they're just trying to get three D gags in there. We need laundry. But this was just like such a great ten minutes in another slasher movie is kind of what I'm getting at. And it's scary again. Also, my favorite thing about the midpoint Jasonons is that they have to spend the beginning justifying why Jason is alive. Is that the best? Isn't that the fucking best? Like they spend at least fifteen minutes walking back the last movie Yeahep, But they they don't hide the fact that he's gotten a machete in the face or like it's been like an axe in the face or a machete buried into his fucking collarbone. Like we're literally at the morgue and they're like, Yepp Nep, he's a dead one. and then just for some reason comes back to life. It's fornicating. Fornicating is like so in Chucky, there's this magic spell that brings Chucky into his body and com and animates and comes to life. Yeah Jason Vorgie's literally just fucking nearby. Yeah, he's definitely his mother's son, right? Thank. ike even if he's dead What was that somebody? someomebody taking the fucking clothes off right now? Around me? Yeah, 'cause the mortician, the morgue attendant, I guess he's the coroner is trying to have sex. He's such a fucking horny dude. I love his fucking workout video tape. Is it a tape? I thought it was just television? May maybe it's just yeah, the nurse comes in 'cause she wants to watch the news ' she's like, Wooh, that's our hospital. They brought that mess murderer here. That was my favorite moment of the movie apart from the Crispen Glover nes And this this corarter is trying to fucker the entire time L there aren't corpses behind them. Yeah, he gets her to come to the morgue of all places. like this is a key spot, I guess. You're gonna love this. I mean to be fair Probably not a lot of people coming around the morg. Yeah I guess people are not likely to walk in on you who just like drops by the morg. Yeah, but that seems very unsanitary. Yes, Yes. Maybe there was like an edge to like, o, we should fuck in front of a corpse of Jason. That's an Oh, okay. well, when you say it like that Yeah. So so dangerous. It's not just any corpse. Yeah, it's specifically this one. Oh yeah, any corpse weird. Jason War' You get it a little bit. Regular corpse, you can rest your sandwich on it. That's all you're allowed to do with a regular corpse. if it's a brutal supernatural axe murderer, yeah, sure. why not get a little crazy? John's favorite thing is coroners eating in Morars. I'm sure we' talking best. I'm sure we've talked about it on the podcast before because we've covered a bunch of movies where it happen. It happens It even happens just outside of horror movies. Gone in sixty seconds? Yeah, sure. We've got a scene for no fucking reason with a guy who works at a morgue having a sandwich resting it on a corpse.. They're in my head. I know them all. Look out for his letter boox coming soon. Absolutely. It's happening And the way he fucking kills him too, mayaybe it's just because we got Tom Savvini back, Maybe it's the way they edited it together, but when he fucking jams that hacks on of that dude's throat, it looks so fucking good. Also And then he just like rips his head off by just twisting it I like it You do really like that kill. Yeahah. It's the same it's the Kevin Bacon kill just standing. Whoa The grabbing the head thing It's the same Oh, I see. I just yeah, something about did you put your hands on his head? Oh God. I do love the resourcefulness of using the bone saw though because that's so we're gonna to use it on him? It's not a woods tool. so you're just like, fuck, yeah bone saw. Oh that's so true. Yeah, of course. he would not have seen one of thosees he's like, he's a natural. I know what Saw is. It seem it seems really vindictive of him to go after the nurse. She's already left the room. She's gone to like st No to the sex. That's true. She turned into, Hey, Jason kills a virgin in this movie Breaking a lot. She's not as roisy when he kills her True. Yeah. Oh, that's right. he was like, I'm in heaven and we're like, did they fuck? I was confused. Yeah, that's right. Yeah. In my mind, they're just having a shower together for four play, but apparently they had sex in the shower Anyway, he kills that poor nurse who didn't deserve anything. And also the hitchhiker. I like that kill. I think it's funny. It's The bananas It's all I ever remember of this movie apart from the dance is the banana. My favorite part about it is this is a little strange detail, but I loved Jason X when it came out. Big surprise And when I rented it from Blockbuster or wherever, I also watched all of the special features. There was maybe one or two. But one of the featurettes was the producer, probably Seaun S. Cunningham, talking about how hard it is to survive a Friday the thirirteenth movie. He's just like, Yeahah, if you have sex, you're dead. You do drugs, you're dead. You're a girl sitting on the side of the road eating a banana dead. And I just thought that was a thing he said. Like me and my friends thought it was the Funniest joke in the world. just picking out a randomic Yeah, you know, you're sitting in the side of cornery banana. Jasey's gonna kill you. So obscure. Yeah, it took me years to realize that was an actual murder in an actual Friday the thirteenth movie. I love that. So that one's got a special place in my. She the arrpenter, she their opportunity to stop and not go to the to the cabin I guess there isn't really asking for a ride. Yeah. I guess the harbinger is the fact that it's the day after the murders on the other side of the lake. and Jason Vorghhees is quote unquote dead, but missing from the moor. Yeah. They also said that the coroner and the nurse are missing I don't understand how they didn't find their bodies somewhere in the fucking freezer. I think the harpenter is just Pamela Vorhi's tombstone D they drive past her tomb?. That's literally it. Okay these kids from out of town have to have read the news, and memorized the names and also seen what was going on I don't know And it wasn't enough to stop that single mom and or two kids who live in the fucking woods to be like, Mbe we shouldn't stay here right now. Maybe it's just not safe. After all of those murders. Yeah, no, the mom's attitude is definitely like, Well, thank God, that's over. That's definitely not gonna happen us. Yeah What do you think of Tommy Jarvis This is the introduction of Tommy Jarmis. And I like him? Okay, I love his little mask thing. That's cute. It's very like he's baby Tom Savini. That's exactly what he is. He's baby Tom Savini. As a character I like a lot. I just don't think Oh, I'm not a hugeoreory Feldman. never have been. And I would like to point out that when you Google this movie and you know how they like Google will pull up some images and show you like actors that are in it and the roles that they play, the photo that Google just serves you is like a Gory Feldman wearing a fedora. They really use and this is more leading to the finale, they really use Cy Feldman's character to kind of emulate the same finale that we had in part two with Jinny. Well we're wrapping up, Kim. We got a we got a bookend the series Yeah, it just feels a little been there done that. But like I think where part four really won me over this time was in The middle section I thought the dialogue between the characters was actually really fucking good. see Yeah, it's a good group of kids. Yeah. There's way too fucking many of them. don't I don't even remember how half of them die, where half of them die, Who knows who, who's dating whom? I gotta say you, these are details that are only a problem when you want to sit down and talk about it for a podcast. When you're watching the movie, who gives fuck.' like o, that's theoof one. That guy's trying to get laid, She's a virgin. That's all I just need their stereotypes or their personality defaults That's all I't It isn't until you're trying to like talk to people about the movie that you need to know that like, oh, Ted is the weirdo who likes watching the stag films all night. But as a slasher film, the body count is so fucking high. It's a lot. There's just kill kill kill, kill. When they finally realize that You know, maybe we should go check on the neighbor's house. Everyone inside Everyone's already dead. Everyone is dead. There's no one to save. You're already running through the flasher formula. like you're always like, okay, this person's gonna die, this person's gonna die, and they do die. It's very fucking sad when Christmin Gover dies because he's the best. Yo, but he dies a champ. Like his biggest concern is that he's too awkward to get laid and that he's a terrible lay evidence that says he may not be great. He did have the best final night of his life. Yeah, she totally Terry, is that who he sles with one of the tw? He sleeps with one of the twins. I'm just gonna say Terry. And he's just like, I wasn't I wasn't a dead fuck was I? And she just gives it to him. She's like, you were incredible. You were amazing. I feel so good for him. But the best part about it is that he doesn't try to be a cool kid. Like Ted keeps g trying Is it Ted?ne of Yeah T Ted Ted like I got a little I got a little a little mind computer here and he's spitting that results saying, you gotta step shit up, bro But he keeps trying to like show him how to be cool and whatever. and Ted's the wrong guy for this. He keeps like giving him hints on things to do. but Crispin Glover, what is his name? I should probably use it. Jimmy. Jimmy. Jimmy just keeps being himself so blatantly himself. And obviously I'm talking about the dancing. It's so fucking absurd any girl would be like Yeah, I'm into it. I'm fucking. You are so uniquely you. This is so terrible, but adorable and I'm into it L old Jimmy. And you see, there you go, kids, you just gott to be yourself. Even if you're a weird Corey Feldman kid making masks, that's what gave him the edge. That's what helped him survive. That's what helped them kill Jason at the end. It's also what helped get Jimmy Lade. So I mean, hey, and he was on cloud nine when he got that machete in the face. Meat cleaver. when he got that meeat cleleaver in the face And he was being such a good dude too. he was going to get like wine. Yeah. he also wanted the fancy corkscrew. I'm sure there was a plain old boring corkscrew somewhere, but he wanted to make a show out of it. L he wanted to bring the wine glasses with the fancy new corkscrew up to the room, pour a nice little glass. Jason could have at least pulled a bob up there and had Terry die thinking that that Jimmy had come up to see her afterwards. I'm talking about Bob from from Halloween Halloween. Yeah. That would have No, that would have hurt more. Can you imagine's that's the we've talked about it already. like that's the thing I always hate in slash room movies when people think they're being killed by their boyfriends or by their best friends. I want them to at least know in even if it's just in the last ten seconds, the mask comes off, they see who it actually is like, oh, well, thank Godd, at least it wasn't Jimmy. I just wanted an image for my brain bank of Jason four he's holding champagne. Oh, okay, I so you're say. That that's pretty rad, would take away One of the best kills they've ever put in a Friday of the thirteenth movie. We're fucking Jason is just on the second story of this house. And while Terry's out looking at her sister's bike like, oh my Godd, I thought my sister left. Where is she? What happened? He fucking just yanks her and tosses her out of the second story window Yeah. Isn't so fucking great? And he's a really like He's an impale guy. He's big on, you know, cutting and ally in this one stabbing. And to throw somebody out of the window, you're just like Well, he really didn't care for her. They went crazy with this one. They like, we need to make this bigger and b. We need a scene where somebody I know guys, I know we're in the woods and we're at a cottage, but we need a scene where somebody gets thrown out of an apartment eight story window and when they hit the roof of the car, all of the windows shatter. And they're like, yeah, we could do it. whyy not? He's Jason Borey mayaybe he throws with extra force That's another trope that I love sandwiches on top of bodies in the morgue and windows blown out when bodies hit the roof. U things I like about this film. Yeah. Jason Vorhees is dead Mm When no when they he takes off his fucking mask That is a zombie warcies. You think so? I think so. I think it's open for interpretation. No No, I don't think he's fully dead. I think he's just a guy who's got no dental plan, who's gotten the shit kicked out of him and has been malnourished his entire life. I think that's just what you look like when you become a swamp person. If he's malnourished, whyy is he six seven The water's toxic and he grew three times the size like a nuclear plant fish. So he's Godzilla. Yeah. Okay. He's Godzilla of New Jersey. I bought it. You don't think he's dead? I don't think he's dead. Oh I think so's I think this is the first reanimation of Jason Waran. I don't know about that. think this is I just think they they you know, his pulse was weak and he had, you know the crazy axe murderer strength to like pull himself up. Are you going to say that there's at least something supernatural about him rising or you think that he like do you think he can regenerate? I'll agree with that then. if he didn't die, but he's like healing himself I think it's just one of those unsolved mysteries science Yet it we with me That science is unable to explain for the first four movies. I think he is a human man For the first four movies, like against all odds, he's still alive and for some reason. Explain the fast growth period then between part one and part two Jason Fhees was born in the nineteen fifties and he lived in the woods by himself until nineteen eighty one. So was it the ghost of Jason Or was it in what's her name's head? Alice's head? Baby Bores. I think we have to assume that it was in her head. All right. Or at the very least she saw a human man and then thought it was a boy. Okay, So fuck, you don't think he's any super d personally. Okay, I'm gonna go with he's regenerative. L he's like a lizard if you cut off his leg. We can disagree. It's fine. L we don't have to collectively come to aclus Yeah. this is cananon. As head counselor, what do you want me to think? He's a lizard He's a g liizard. Okay. But they really fucking kill him in this one and it is lovely. I'm talking particularly about the machete going through his head and his head sliding down.. Right Don't you love that? That's I really wanted to touch it. Well, the other great thing about it too is that the face is still making expressions while sliding down on the knife Like somebody is still puppeting it. so he's like Oh God, Oh no. That's what this feels like. I've been doing this this whole time. You have to say that about Jason though, is that he gets everything he gives. You cannot say the same for Michael Myers. you cannot say the same for Freddie ust Freddy got burned alive. Yeah. But Jason Borhees gets like hit, impaled, smacked, and thked with every single implement he has ever used. That is so true. Like even the cemetery thing, doesnn't he get impaled with that? That's how he comes back to life. That's why he's walking around with the thr of the whole movie. That's a real big revelation. I never thought that before. I thought yeah that he can take what he gives as. Yeah But he has experienced like every single thing that he's done to others and he continues to do it, which is really extra sadistic. He knows how bad a hammer hurts backwards. Oh thats Oh, that's so true Man, I fucking love that moment. Trish is actually like a really good final girl. She's in one, I think it's because she's gone into like mother mode because Obviously their mom is dead up. I did they know that yet. I'm sure they were assuming. She was out running and she never came back. Everybody's dead, yeah. She's really protecting little Tommy. And yeah, she goes in full like mama bear mode. I mean, she's not super proficient with weapons when she's hitting them with the hammer. No. She whacks them with the front of the hamers' like, th At least thirteen times before she turns it around and she's like, what man? Yeah, but she's at least thinking about it. And she's thinking about it. She doesn't stop. keep She keeps going after him. She also tries to like lure him back into the house, which is a great little moment when she realizes that Tommy's still there 'cause she told him to run away kind of freaks out a little bit, but yeah, I think she just I think she just kicks a lot of ass. She's a final girl like a lot of these final girls where like all of a sudden she's just like dropped into the fucking deep end. She didn't realize what was happening. But I mean that's because fucking Jason is killing a whole group of kids across the street while they're, you know away with crazy campign It's not just like she was asleep and she woke up and everyone's dead. Yeah. It's really interesting too, because I was really feeling like Sarah was gonna be the final girl. and your understanding of flashers at this point really makes you feel like she's gonna be. Oh because she's She's the virginal one She's when we're in that group of people, she's essentially our lead character. She's the story that we're following the most. like Will she or won't she? And should she or shouldn't she? And then she does. And then she dies. But when she dies, you're like, fuck She's gone I thought we were escaping with her. I thought ye, I thought she was gonna run into trash and the two of them were gonna ride off into the sunset, like the one that. They had to do like a thumb war to see who would win. likeike who gets out of here? Yeah. And I think that's why it's because there's the addition of the extra house and the extra family because it's like we're watching a Friday thirteenth movie with an extra story It's kind of a genius move because it keeps you guessing a little bit as to like who is gonna be the final girl. Turns out it's Tommy Jarvis. Making him a kid obsessed with horror movies and monsters is also just cool a cool bit because it's explains why he has a newspaper clipping of Jason Vorhes. He got that from who haven't talked about Oh shit. Yeah that's right, sorry. Yeah from like Hunter Ron, who'. Whse sister died in the second film and he's like must hunt the bear It's Sandra's brother, Jeff and Sandra, the girl who's like fourteen That's that's That's her older brother who's come to he I love that he's got the inside scoop where he's just like, no, this guy's still alive and he's still killing people and I gott to avenge my sister. It's not like he's got he'. Solve No, he sure didn't. It's not like he's got to solve the murder and like, you know, like who who's responsible for killing my sister? He knows exactly who it is, but he, like a crazy person insists that the person in the morgue is still alive Can you imagine? fucking Tommy Jarvis number four. I mean, number five Yeah, no, he like he's not wrong, but it Trish seems to be very on board with that story when I think a normal person would be like, Okaykay, cool, I'm just going to get as far away from you as possible. That's right. Man came back from the grave Hunt again It's not something that I think you would you'd buy very. Well, I think at this point her mom's missing. she's going out to find her mom and somebody in the woods is like, There's a killer out here and there's something already abnormal happening. Also her little brother is alone back at the house. so she's like, let's go back to the house. Yeah. And then they find the blood everywhere at the neighborhouse. and they're like, okay, it's happening. But in this like little dossier of newspaper clippings, Tommy Jarvis sees at least a photo of baby Jason And and with because of his makeup skills, you know, is able to sort of disguise himself and then trick Jason. I like this because it's just funny. Like the idea that Jason has facial dysmorphia, like he can't recognize faces even his own. but he's also a child. L he's a Doesn't it seem a little bit narcissistic though of Jason to see himself and be like Oh That's me. Is he just confused? Like was the goal to just confuse him long enough that his sister could machete him? I think that's all it was. Yeah. I assume somewhere in the news story had said something about And said something about Jenny pretending to be his mom. Oh, did it? I have no idea. L With Jenny, it's more about subduing him. Like she really psychologically fucks him. That's so great. Wh Whereas this one doesn't feel as smart? No, not at all. I mean it is a little boy and like he's doing a really great job. Yeah. It's little boyic. job little boy. Yeah, it's hard to say whether or not Jason Vorhees was just like, that's me over there orr if he was just confused But yeah, at the very least, it gave him a leg up. It gave them just a quick little moment where he stopped fighting so they could beat the shit out of him. Yeah. It's very fucking interesting that they went for this childhood destroyed plot with Tommy So Jason's hand twitches and then Tommy's like, fuck you. And he like overdo it with the smashy smash. Yeah, he becomes a psychopath. And then at the end, he does that like that b right where he goes to visit his sister, and he just stares directly into the camera. Like, Oh, we won, but at what cost? But okay, so but there's something interesting here because I never gave this credit. I always thought it was super super hilarious But we laughed when it happened last. It is is still super hilarious. but Adding some depth to it Tommy Jervis's mom has just died Oh I see what you're saying. And so like they got some shared trauma here Maybe that's kind of why Tommy has is able to descend into this killer mode becausecause he's going through the same kind of grieving. I don't know.'s there's something dark in I don't know. No, I like what you're saying. I think that's something that I never necessarily thought about. The parallels between them as people Well, we can talk about it more when we get to when we get to part five and part six, but yeah, like I always thought it was more of like a psychological torment thing. Yeah. I didn't think about it so much as like they've both lost their mothers at a key age and are super duper traumatized. Well, and people have always been like Tommy Borg People have always been like Tommy Jarvis is Jason Borgz's nemesis. And if you go back to like, say M. Night Chamalan's like glass and unbreakable, the nemesis is the direct opposite of the villain Yeah. And so like they're the same thing, but one uses it for good and one uses it for bad. and eventually I think they were going to make Tommy Jarvis evil at one point They were going to make him the villain, but then they were like We'll get into whether or not he's the real villain of this franchise. But yeah, like they do a really good job of setting that up But in the end, Tommy is the ultimate final girl, but he is the ultimate good. He's constantly trying whether or not it's good it's smart moodves or not, he's constantly trying to be like the antithesis of Jason and the fact that they have meir childhood and Tommy is, you know white light and Jason is like black light. I don't know. I think that's Smart. Yeah. I I think it's a really good move. And it's exactly what kept this franchise alive. It was supposed to end on part three. It was the ending was not good enough. so they're like we're doing it again and we're doing it right this time and they did such a good job that they made a part five and then it just kind of never fucking ended. right It's the best. So I guess I guess You know, the really the only question I really have to ask you here, Kam is what's your rating of Friday the thirteenth, the final chapter? I'm going to give it a three out of four. I am giving the final chapter a three point five out of four. Wow. I really, really liked it this time. I really enjoyed it as well. I just there was a lot to juggle in terms of who was who. I'm gonna have to get used to it. All of the boys looked the same. All of the girls looked the same. Some of them were twins. Yeah, you could be talking about any slasher movie from the nineteen eighties But especially the rest of the franchise is we're in for it. At least they start wearing different clothes. So like they oh we got a jock. Oh, we got a guitar player, you know, like we got We got some characters that we can just refer to by their attributes. so we don't have to memorize nes. What are your thoughts on Cabin on the old two house pce Well, the cabin that the Jarvis cabin is nice little spot, nice, cozy, comfortable place in the woods. The cabin that the teenagers rent is a spectacular rental. I'd be super happy with that if I got that on. The way they kept fucking talking about it, the way Trish kept to her mother, it was like that they bought it Maybe it's someone's dad bought it. bought it or something. Like it's like Rick's dad's cabinet. Is there even a character named Rick? Nope I'm gonna give this one of my lowest ratings for cabins because there's just nothing too creative about them apart from the nudy film. So we'll have a nudy film bump. The house came with old Nudy film. Isn't that great? But yeah it's just like the water's nice. they go skinny dipping, they go for a walk in the woods.re camping on the property down the road a little bit I'll say that like we're not as expansive as a part one or part two, but I don't feel as restricted as I did in part three. It's because we have left and we've been away for a while from the camp. We are not at camp Christmas. Oh, we're not going back to camp for a minute. I know, but I just there's no camp. I like the camp. Okay. well. So I like it more than Higgins S. Agree. Favorite killen movie? For me, it's tough. like I can't decide between Terry and Axel the corner. I like I'm both Crisp and glover. Ultimately Oh really. Okay. Yeah. there's just a nice irony to like a nice A latis Moret irony to the corkscrew in the hand. Yeah, and the meat clever in the face. it looks real good too. Like the way that it's chopped. J cororkies. fuck, that's mine. That's a good dep That's a real good de. Even Rob's is good where Rob's just getting like hacked up by Jason in the basement, like you can barely make it out. he's like, please God Ron T. His hurt. And Ted, when he gets killed through the projector screen, that looks fucking great on our projector screen. Yeah, it was all right. The projector seception of it all was pretty great. Projectorception I didn't even think about that unt until Chris Vogel was in in the discord. We were basically just like saying, Hey, look what we're watching right now. and it did not even occur to me that we were watching a movie on a projector about a guy watching a movie on a projector. Loved it. But yeah, the corner iss definitely my favorite death. So Kim, what's your franchise ranking? Before we put the fire out, I need to know how you stack these four movies One, two, four, three I mean, I'm pretty similar. I'm two one, four three. And I gotta say four and one are t are almost tied man. Wow. This This like really jumped up in my ranking. It's cra I've never understood the appeal of this one. Maybe it's because I couldn't get over baby Tommy Jarvis and stuff, but like goddamn, this If we're talking just like straightforward slashers, which is what I loved so much about part two, this definitely meets that that criteria. So yeah. twow one, four, three. I can't believe you you're putting one so low in your soul. I don't know if I can handle it. It's in my second spot. Yeah, but you're tying it. Ting it. They're both great movies, man. They're both They're both two different flavors of the same franchise. I love it