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Hello friends and welcome to episode two hundred and eighty six of the No Cliff Crew Cast podcast two cast. What's up? There's four of us here this week. Let's swing on over straight to No Caps. How you doing? Good to have you back. What you've been up to? Yeah, I'm great. I'm all refreshed after after having off last week, but I don't know , what have I been up to? I went to a wedding this weekend. That's what I did. Awesome. Yeah. Nice. Did you have to get a new Did you have to buy new clothes for it? Were you able to throw something together? I actually had the same outfit I wore to a wedding last year so that worked out. Perfect. Yeah, that's the dream. That's the dream. Especially if you can still fit into it, which is oftentimes a little problem. A little sketchy, but this video game work, you know, we got we got big hands from playing games and that's about it. Strong wrist muscles . Jeremy Jane, what is the strongest muscle in your body? No rude answers, please. Oh God, all the rude answers are flashing into my mind. My fucking brain. Is that a muscle? I don't know . I got a huge brain, dude. That's like that meme of the guy with the big head and then the jog is like, where do you work out? And he's like the library . That's me. I love it. Very cool. Frank, when was last time you were in a library ? It was maybe a month ago. I'm currently reading reading in the Japanese ballpark, which is amazing behind the scenes of Nepal Professional Baseball. So my plan on the next trip is to go to a Japanese baseball game. So I think it's september tenth. It's the it's the Giants versus the Chinichen Drag ons. So we're going to go and I'm very excited. Tickets on sale next month, but I'm very excited. Sounds like a Kaiju battle you're going to . The giants versus what was the one the dragons? The dragons from Nagoya. That's amazing. Where are the giants from San Francisco Tokyo? Yeah. So Tokyo has three ballparks in their area. There's one in Chiba, one down in Okhama, one at the Tokyo Dome. I kind of want to go to every single ballpark, but yeah, the Tokyo Dome is two stops from my hotel, so I'll go there first but I really want to go to the Okhama Bay Stars 'cause their mascot is a hamster. So yeah like Kamtaro kind of looking thing. Yeah, and it's got tiny little hands. Excellent. For some reason, Riverside updated and gave us a bunch of new features but then took away some silly ones. Do you mind turning your mic game down just slightly for me? Thanks, dude. Apologies, by the way, to all of the people who are watching this on YouTube , Jesse Garasha, of course , capable of doing insane amounts of work to produce the podcast last week. I just couldn't all the gameplay he does and chapters he does and all this sort of stuff. I was like, I'm so busy editing stuff. I don't have time to do it, but we'll figure it out, folks. We'll spread the work around find a solution over on YouTube, but please bear with us at the moment. A bunch of stuff happening at the moment ? Jeremy Jane, your Star Wars galaxies documentary has gone up. I finally got around to finding a slot for it in our schedule. I think you produced it like last year or something, but it turns out like last April was the first dra ft. Yeah, there you go. But it turns out it's a pretty good time to do it because Ralph Coster's got a game coming in early access an MMO no doubt sometime this summer apparently . Yeah, I don't actually know when the it's Stars Reach is the name, right? Yeah, it says the early access trailer they showed around Summer Games Fest said summer twenty twenty six. So okay cool. Yeah because on Steam it's to be announced Yeah Stars Reach looks really interesting too It's very Star Wars Galaxies inspired, very sandboxy. It's obviously in space, which is it's a gimme , but it looks cool. I mean, I feel like Star Wars Galaxies is notable for many things, but among them is that it's like this bifurcation of MO design and you know, in one direction is the world of warcraft, which is the direction that we've gone as a as a society as sort of like a alternate history route that was more sandboxy and weird and you know, I feel like Rapcoster is keeping the torch lit with, you know, like Ultima online was fucking Rapcoster, you know, like Stars Galaxy, it's this weird sandboxy world of MMOs that we missed out on. So Stars Reach is kind of pulling an MMO from that alternate universe into ours. Yeah. And that's what I love so much about the video. People should go check it out right now if they haven't already. It's the fastest thirty minutes you'll ever watch on Nope because it's just so fascinating. And what I love about it is the Jedi problem is sort of this , you know, it's this myth in sort of PC gaming circles of a certain, you know, for those of us of a certain vintage . But the video is not just about that. It's , you know, it uses that as a jumping off point to sort of talk about the like you said, the bifurcation of MMO design, but also like you know what it's like herding cats in an MMO and the ways in which you can ruin the fun for people by almost giving them too much, you know, or giving them too much insight and how much wonder and that far horizon, you know, even though it's not something you necessarily do. It's it's , you know, the players benefit from it in so many ways. Yeah, it also kind of demystrofizes or like deromanticizes this element of this like apocryphal element of Star Wars galaxy's history, which is that a lot of people are like, oh, it came out and it was so fucking good. It was like the best episode ever. And then they ruined it, man with that update, that big infamous update, though like NGE or whatever it's called. And it's it's kind of like there are like elements of truth to that and I say that as someone who was playing the game at that time, but it was a game that was like troubled from its inception . It was handed from one team, ripped from them and handed to rafts team with not they didn't like reset the timer on the production for that. They just were like, hey, it's if it's gone this far, you got to like basically start over with a new team and, you know, the clock is ticking. This is how much time you have left and they worked under insane circumstances to make a very ambitious game. I mean, it's a fucking Star Wars MORPG , so I feel like it's, you know, it's self explanatory. But yeah, it's it was a game that was troubled from its start, but they took some big sw ings and the other thing that's interesting is the tension between doing really ambitious game design and the sort of like financial pressure, publisher pressure that comes with, especially with an IP as big as Star Wars. It's like, what if we make this weird ambitious game where no one can figure out how to be a Jedi ? Like that's awesome. And then they're like, yeah, but like no one's a Jedi and it's like a Star Wars video game. So like fucking kids are gonna get this for Christmas. Yeah, I love how you like in the in the script sort of sympathize with the with the marketing problem, you know, because it like you said, it is like, you know, the wonder of this is really powerful, but there's a case to be made that perhaps you know , with the way it was set up that perhaps you know, and it wasn't even Rap's without spoiling it, it wasn't even, you know, his ideal design, the one that they ended up launching with so may,be it was eas ier to sort of to truncate it later on the marketing side. I had to play my own I had to play Devil's Advocate to myself because it is it's very easy for me to slip into the like usually just gave a billion dollars to the weirdest game designers and never check in on them. That's how I genuinely feel. So at some point I have to be like, alright, but like, you know, I don't if I had a billion dollars I'd be like, What are you doing with the money though? Exactly. Where's my Jedi? Yeah . I'll give you a billion dollars for a Jedi. Where is it? Yeah, people should check it out. And then we have a follow up coming very soon as well, another video MMO design this time with Rafcoster produced by Jeremy again . And like you said, you know, Ultima online, other great games he touched, games he didn't work on like World of Warcraft, he sort of runs the gambit on it, wraps a bit of a legend in these spaces and does a lot of talks and whatnot. And yeah, it was amazing that you got you hunted them down to do it. And hey, on the ultimate side, Richard Garrett, apparently making a play to get his IP back. So, you know, let's get the old band back together. Yeah. Hell yeah, they're fucking great circuming out of the woodwork . Yeah, the other video is also cool because I think this is maybe just my perception romanticizing it because it was me getting to meet Rap Coster, who's like a hero of mine . But I wanted to talk to him about the history of MMO's pre graphical MMOs, about like MUDs and text based MMOs , these like shared text based dungeons. Multi user dungeons is what Mud stands for . And yeah, if you don't know who Bartle and Trubshaw are, you should watch this documentary fucking get educated . It's great. Yeah, it's like it's like where are those pen and teller, you know? Where's like the muppet guys? Yeah or or yeah those exactly yeah yeah that's what it sounds like yeah so keep your eyes peeled for that of course if you're an early access patreon on NotLip you'll be seeing that pretty soon. It's done again so we'll get that out to you folks next week , I suspect. Speaking of patrons, massive thanks to everyone who supports us at Patreon. com slash no clip and patreon. com slash no clip too, including our battle pass holders, Charles Atkinson, Brian Barru, Yut, Dwayne the Rock Lobster, Anthony Thomas, Nico Paseteri. Its an Evilario. Senator Armstrong, Reedredge, Harry Flanagan, Juice, Arno, Matt Pearson, Mark Rohas Quote, Tucker Morgan, David McGarry, Goddesson, Spen Huster, Pez, Bonmauld, John Acres, Ewint Nate, Tim Robinson, Forest Bruitt, Dark Insanities , Eric Hamilton Schneider , Chris Afatoui. Dramatic pause there. Grizzly mug. Cameron loud, Zachary Snader, Alex Gouci, George Sakotis, Jacob Godzerve, Nthea Jenn, James Med and Rysen , than you allk so much for your support. Let's talk about video games, but before I do , how much how much hardware money you guys got? You got some you got some money you want to spend on some new machines . What do you think? , I'm selling blood if steam machines are the question. Like I'm going to the plasma clinic. Steam machines with the low low price than,ks to our good friends at the AI industry . Did you shut down like a computer? I did. I shut down like a steam machine and running what it would run if it was actually reported seven hundred and fifty bucks or so it might have been when it when they originally launched the or launched this idea. Yeah, steam machines the base steam machine which, has five hundred and twelve gigs of hard drive space. I feel like I'm buying like a Mac laptop here with the hard drive space situations we're running into one thousand and forty nine dollars with a controller goes up to one twenty eight than the two terabyte version , which also comes with some sweet little what do you call them f ace plates, I guess ? It starts at one thousand three hundred and forty nine and that with a controller is one thousand four hundred twenty eight. I almost want to join the wish list just to see I don't want one of these because they're incredibly expensive, but I almost feel I just want to see what happens but then I'm an asshole who's just like jumping in line for no reason. What did you guys make of this? What was did any of you have any desires to get one of these? Obviously, the price is downstream from the reality that the hardware market is facing at the moment when it comes to price for just about anything. Obviously, the big ticket items people talk about are hard drives and RAM and stuff, but graphics cards as well, I should mention, of course, are a huge pull on this, but you know, just about anything , you know, the straight or form mov stuff wasn't helping as well with some of this, I'm sure considering all the technology that is required, the gases and the chemicals that are required from that part of the world, helium and whatnot to produce a lot of this stuff . But yeah, this has been a problem for the past few years mostly driven by AI data center expansion and NVIDIA really getting in bed with a lot of these AI companies and pumping out loads of cards for those folks . What do you guys make of this? Did you guys have any desire to get one of these or has that been squashed or was it always something you weren't particularly interested in? No, I mean I have a really long HDMI cord so that's my steam machine like just using my PC on the ZV . So I was curious, but I was literally having the same argument with myself yesterday. I was like, why would I get one of these? Do I need one of these? And I was like, No, I have that long agent in my cab that basically does it. Like I just play on my Xbo x bad wirelessly to the TV. Frank, any desire from your end? No, I'm generally interested in their like VR headsets because I feel like they announced they were going to release a new one of those, but I have no interest in the steam machine . So yeah, that's why I have nothing to like no comment. It feels like I just don't know. Yeah. I don't complete your steam deck, you're happy. Yeah, yeah. You see . Yeah, it seems like the use case for it to me it's like if you can't afford a gaming PC and you still want to play games, you buy a console historically. And this was the sort of gap filler where it's like, all right, I can spring for , you know, seven hundred something dollars to sort of dip my toes in the PC game water in some capacity . But at this price point, it's like it's too high to it's too, it's not a console in my brain it's too expensive for a console in my bra in. It's like not quite a PC in my brain. It's this weird middle space. I just, I don't know, I have a computer that's maybe getting up their age and I probably just like save for another computer at some point. Yeah, it's interesting how, you know , apparently from the tests I've watched, I've watched a bunch of YouTuber, you know, tech YouTubers about it and, you know, ten eighty sixty seems to be what it's going for. Like it can do some DL or it can do some upscaling stuff, I should say. These are running custom AMDs in them . But yeah, it did seem to be that I guess what you're what you're saying is makes sense. But to me it's also like, I don't know who'd buy these maybe right now who isn't like an enthusiast gamer who already has a PC. You know what I mean? It's kind of like the Steam Deck thing where when they first started coming out , I was kind of thinking, oh okay, is this like going up against the switch? But like no, it's going up against like people who have or it's going for people who have steam accounts that have like two hundred plus games in them, right? That's that's the value benefit of these, I think, is that you basically get all the games , not for free, but like I remember when I got my steam deck that sort of because Steam Deck was really expensive and it, you know, it feels like do I really need this thing? And then the first time we beat it up boot it up, it's like, oh my god, yeah, of course. All my games are here. Like I don't have to like have that day one console thing of like going immediately on the store and trying to buy , you know, a second game or a third game or something like that. And yeah, I guess if there was like a situation where I really wanted like in a different room to play PC games, but like, yeah, I don't know, like I don't I'm sure for a lot of people this stuff works out, but like when I'm playing PC games, I'm sitting down at a PC with a mess and keyboard. And if I want them to run at like two K or four K, I want to be like standing this close to the screen. You know what I mean? Like I want to be like sucking all the all the graphics off the screen . Whereas when I'm playing on my TV, I'm happy for it to be on a console. Like it's sure, it's fine. You know, maybe if the body proposition was better , I don't know, it wouldn't move the needle for me. I really don't need one of these things, but like, yeah, I'm kind of I'm bummed out for people who had a situation where they needed one of these or you know, there's a lot of people who watch NoClip two who don't have PCs who see all the videos we're doing about all these interesting indie games. And I think for them it would be a fantastic way to get into PC gaming and play those games for sure . You know, I'm not sure you'd run , you know, blackmith woocon on four K on this thing, but like, you know, lots of other stuff. I'm sure it'd be great . Yeah, before I had the PC that I currently have is the Noclip Editing PC from when we had a studio . And before you let me take this home and use it as my full time PC , I only had a MacBook for years. I grew up as a PC gamer and then kind of just like didn't keep buying new PCs and got priced out. And then I had a MacBook because it was like easy to collaborate with people for editing and like bring it to do, you know, like film like footage offloads on sounds and stuff like that. Way better exporting times and just, you know, the only problem with MacBooks was always the hard drive space, but we exist in our own hell with that when it comes to No Cliff, you know, which isn't normal. Yeah, for sure. But I just like this would have been the perfect thing for me before I had this editing PC that you let me take home because if it was a little cheaper and maybe even at this price point now given how inflated everything is , but yeah, I just it sucks for people who are in that middle zone where it's like, I can't justify spending two thousand dollars to play, you know, risk of rain too . Right. Yeah, yeah. That's also on causals. That's a bad example. But insert indie game is only on fucking steam here . Go to No Clip two and look at any game and probably one of those out there . Yeah, so it's it's a shame. The price obviously, like I said, this is no heat on steam. I don't think anyone 's saying that either. I don't think you can expect them to run this thing at a loss or anything. It doesn't, you know, especially yeah, I mean, I guess you could make the argument that they're getting thirty percent of every game sold on the system so maybe they should. But yeah, it's a it's more than anything it's just a sort of lightning rod I think again for just how much people are pissed off at all this AI shit and just the inevitable end of so much of this investment in data centers being a complete waste of time and energy and water and now making , you know, what is traditionally already a fairly expensive pastime into something that is just becoming increasingly more difficult. And it really just like augers worryingly for the future of the console market as well because if you're going to start launching consoles, you know , the we're already on a sort of a bell curve, I think, when it comes to like hardware progress, like so much of the research in chip sets, especially GPU's, of course , is bending towards the needs of AI models and the consumer market for rendering video games or, you know , app power is sort of also hit a plateau like how much how much more RAM do you need to run Excel? You know what I mean? Or like your social media or well, actually if they keep updating Chrome the way they are, maybe we will need a couple more gigs. But so yeah, we're we're in this like awful place where even the prices have started to go up, you know, DLSS and stuff like that has definitely changed the game in the past few years for sure. Like that sort of stuff. And you can make the argument that some of that stuff is using technology that is , you know, that is that is AI Jacent and whatnot. But yeah, it's it's a weird scenario. And one of the things that comes to mind for me a little bit, I'm a little bit worried about it is if the hardware keeps getting this expensive at a like at a certain point do you end up in a scenario that you were in actually Jeremy about five years ago which is when you were playing on your Mac and maybe you could be in this situation again. I was in the situation I was in on the road recently where instead of having an expensive piece of kit in your house, you just stream it. You you play on NVIDIA what's it called again? I always forget the name of the thing. Uh , yeah. I want to say Nvidia Go. That's definitely not what it's called. There's so many force now is that GF is a G force now, is that what we're saying? I don't know. That makes the service that I played all of Divinity original into on and after playing one hundred and ten hours of that game on I would never fucking stream another game ever. So really? And I played arcaders on my sister's Wi Fi through it and it was actually fine . Yeah, so it's obviously maybe gotten a bit better. And I was in Ireland, which probably didn't have its own data center. I was probably , you know, a connection center, I was probably tagging into UK somewhere . So yeah, which worries me a bit that then we've created another service model that people have to subscribe to and they don't have autonomy and they don't have consumer power as a result. But like if that , you know , that's at what stage do you not get a PlayStation six? You just download the PlayStation app on your television and stream the games. You know what I mean? Like you're already buying them digitally Most people don't care about , you know, graphics above two K, maybe they're screens can or you know, then they can stream four K and it's fine. That's maybe I don't think I'm a ludite, but like to me that seems like a backs backward step. Yeah, it's kind of a dystopian solution in my mind given a number of factors. One of them is like media preservation . Things get changed over time. I think it's, you know, when you have like the Disney, not the Disney Vault, that's where they keep stuff so it sells better, but like when you have subsequent versions of movies releasing over time and there's like Star Wars and there's like Star Wars and they added like the CGI dobax and tatooine and it's like I think it is important to have for preservation's sake, original versions of things as things get changed and then even when they're changed, sometimes we don't like look back upon the original fondly until time has passed and stuff. There's this sort of like in geology when there's like the layers of different minerals or something. I think media has a similar thing. And I think the more we sort of shift over to a digital only model that you can only see the top most recent layer. We're arguably there already, right? Because even like, you know, physical games you buy today are just like, you know, download , you know, they need to update immediately a lot of the times or day one patches are onn't them. It's yeah, it's it's I don't know, it's we talk a lot about how it's hard to sometimes keep yourself positive about the future of gaming obviously the stuff we do on Noclip two, I feel like is a big part of that and you know being excited about specific developers and specific ideas and visions but the overall sort of direction of the macro industry around this stuff is troubling I think . Yeah, this is just another flat point for it in a way. Steam machines available on steampowered dot com slash hardware slash steam machine. Two M's there Steam machine. They have other stuff that as Frank mentioned, they were the steam frame they're still talking about. The steam controller you. bu Cyan that separately? It's got the haptic thing on it. ninety nine bucks. I guess controllers just cost that much money now. The sandwich costs forty dollars. How much can a banana cost I saw a video of someone that had the controller and it was like on the desk and they were using the keyboard like with the vibration to like move the controller around like an RC car they could like control So that's a extra benefit . There you go. It's also an RC car, who knew strap some wheels on that thing, haptic motion . Yeah, I don't know , yeah, again, I have the haptic stuff on the steam deck I never used. Do you guys ever use that pad? No. I just hit it by accident . Yeah. What do you say, Jeremy? I'd like the little mouse pad, is that what you're talking about? Yeah, no, not really. It's very sensitive and I never die I never use it enough to dial in the s ensitivity. You never played Command and Conquer Red Alert with it? Well, I tried to play Kenchi on my steam deck on a plane and it was fucking impossible. Same with I tried to play Rim World. I think anything that is like that mouse heavy is I don't know, the mouse is either too sensitive or not sensitive enough when I move it. Yeah, I tried to play pre launch mugenics on it before they added controller support and it was just like, this is awful. If there's any friction between you and a controller and you know, your input and what you're seeing on screen , it's just the worst . So it's like I can't, I can't, I can't fuck this. So God bless. If you if you're one of the few people, at least in my mind, the few people who use that thing, the pad on it, or you have a steam controller and you use the little pad on that, please let us know. Podcast and note clip. That's steam machines. Let's talk about video games for a second or several note caps . Exo rally championship. I'm fascinated by this. You have gone on a sort of a driving game tear. You're having a driving renaissance over there and you've now managed to end up back at your home weird steam indie games far from the beautiful Japanese roads of Forta Horiz fifty eight Exo rally championship. What is this thing? It looks very sci fi . It is. It's a rally game in space basically. So you're racing across a bunch of different planets that have like their own terrain and gravity and all that . And you're in, you're not in, you know, a little suburb or anything. You're in this a couple different rovers that have RCS thrusters that you can use to like correct your positioning midair and there's like different levels to that depending on what type of rover you have. But so if you like fly into the air off a jump and the gravity is like twice as much as Earth, you can like fix fix yourself like in all cardinal directions . Yeah, so each there's like you'll go through like a series of four like tournaments and each one is a different type of rover. So like the first one has just like side to side and then forward backward kind of correcting. And then the next rover has like up and down. So you can use the down thrusters to land more softly and you can use the up thrusters to kind of like keep your self closer to the ground when you're going over bumps and then the next one is like it's like all directions I didn't get to that one so I don't know what else is added to that but there's like different levels to it and there's a bun ch of tutorials and stuff to teach you all about that. But it's pretty crazy. So it's not even necessarily just when you're in the air like when you're bouncing along, you can like thrust yourself down to get more grip . Yeah . And you can also yeah for I think you can use it for turning somehow like to help you with that. And there's like a lot of like I don't really get super, super into like all of the techniques and everything . I feel like people are still like figuring that out kind of, but there's a lot you can do with it. But it is you have a limited amount of fuel and you only refuel every couple stages. You kind of have to like balance that, but it is a crazy game . So is it like rally like point to point? Like are there other cars or rovers or are you just, is it like time trial point to point like sort of like a lot of rally stuff is? Yeah, it's just you and then your times. Like you kind of see the car in the beginning. It shows them going. It's like, okay, you pull up theing st larine, but you're not racing it directly next to anyone, but there are yeah there's a checkpoints and it has like the arrows and stuff up at the top to show you what's up next and there's like gates you have to go through and then some of them some of them are like two gates side by side and other ones are like a single point and then you have to either pass on the left or the right and then sometimes you have to do like a U turn around it or like a full three hundred sixty around it. Oh right, okay. Yeah. So challenges . Yeah, you have to really, I mean in any rally game you do, but you really have to pay attention to what is next and then what's after the next thing and like be thinking ahead of like how fast you're approaching and everything. But it's pretty open like there's no track or road or anything. You're just on a giant planet planet. So it's weird if there was like a bunch of people just like in a, you know, yeah, there's like suits watching . Yeah . But yeah, you can really like take the long way around if you think that's gonna be safer or you could just try to go straight through, which is usually not the best way to do it, but you can try. And is there like environmental stuff like is it just gravity and you flipping over or is there like, you know, I don't know, water or weather or stuff. There's weather , there's storms, there's like dust clouds . You can like, I think your thrusters can get like caked with dust and you need to like use it to like blow it out or whatever and there's earthquakes , asteroids and there's also the last planet is the lava planet, but I have not gotten to that one yet, but I think is like you can only drive over like the lava for like so long before your tires like start to melt . Bowser's castle. I see a screenshot here. Is one of them the moon ? Yes, that one is it's kind of a pain because it's like slow motion , but oh yeah, of course 'cause you just like gravity . Yeah . But it's also I mean, it gives you time to correct yourself or it gives you time to think about your mistakes when you're in the air just waiting to land , but it's wild. Yeah. So what do you make of it? Like you've played a bit of it, like what's your, what's your take on it? No, you've played a lot of racing games recently. Where does this one sort of land in your in your favorites . It's definitely like very different than most other games and it kind of it's a little bit harder to get into immediately, I would say and you really like need to do some of the tutorials and get a feel for it. So it's not just like jump in and like start winning races, but I also like how there's more of a learning curve and I didn't really even get into like customization with the suspension and the tires and stuff, but you can definitely do that to tune it more finely if you're into that . But yeah, I'm still working my way through all the rovers, but I like it. It is a little bit, it feels slippery, which is what some people are saying. Like that you can never really get that grade of traction, but then there's other people that are like, well, it's like realistic like based on like well the rovers and their suspension and all that stuff. So I'm like, yeah, whatever. Like if you say so you just have to like be careful when you're racing. So since it's a rally game, it's more of like a slow high risk high, reward or high big failures, you know what I mean? So yeah, yeah. However hard you want to go might blow open your face, but it's interesting. I'm gonna check this out. I like my rally games and this is I've never quite played anything like this. This is made by the folks at XO Sorry at a X BLTV who worked on XO one. Do you folks remember EXO one? It was like a Oh, how did you explain it? It was like a space marble ship. I didn't play it, but it's like, yeah, you're like, it's almost you're like surfing over the land kind of and like jumping up and down and going from like ball mode up to like flying spaceship mode. Yeah, you were like using the terrain to sort of this like sort of weird looking flight of the navigator style spaceship and like yeah, laun,ching off of mountains kind of into the sky and stuff. It was very like visual, you know. This looks really cool. It reminds me of this is such a specific reference. I don't know if it was going to hit for anyone. It looks like a if they did like a HD remaster of old Bryce three D environments. Does anyone know what I'm talking about? Bryce three D is an old three D modeling software. So like if you like old math textbooks old pre rendered backgrounds and stuff. I feel like they captured a little bit of the Bryce three D feel, but like not and made him Bryce three D or something . That's wild. It also Exelon reminded me of, do you remember Jet the game by Super Brothers? It was like some of it was in first person and had like a story about being on a very far away planet as part of this like human colonization effort, but then the flying aspects of it were similar where you were sort of like using the lands to, you know, find momentum and things like that, I guess . So that was EXO one, but yeah, Exo rally championship. They were like, Hey, you know what maybe this like Ardie spaceflight game? How about we make a fucking rally game on the moon instead ? It's available now twenty four ninety nine on steam just came out on June seventh. So yeah, what do you think? You're sort of thumbs up, thumbs down, thumbs in the middle. Thumbs middle up. I'd give it like a thumbs at a forty five degree angle upward if you're into this kind of thing like if you're willing to give it some time and it's like a point five or something we'll give it. Yeah. Five yeah, maybe a four, four , four. Why not? four? Excel Rally available now on steam power dot com I wonder if it's on anything else. It's on GForce now, it's what it says here and Microsoft Windows they go . Take that Linux although I'm sure a plays on Steam Deck, I imagine. Did you play on Steam Deck ? No, it's pretty intensive on the my PC was running really hot, but I have the first steam deck, so nothing really runs like great on it. Maybe on a steam machine, it would work. Who knows, or I would have bolted four of them together, maybe we'll have to wait and find out Jeremy Jane , you're you're dabbling once more in the world of survival horror. What are you, what are you doing this time? There was a big sale on resident il E gvames at some point and I picked up the Resident Evil two remake . Pick up your jaws off the floor. The remake hater is playing remakes. You are . I'm shocked at this according to Steam , this came out in twenty nineteen. Is that is that true? Is that true? I don't know. I know it's fucking old . I mean, I've been trying to get around to playing this sometime. And I didn't know it was like seven years old or six . Oh my god, it is. It's january twenty nineteen. That's fucking good insane. Yeah, it's been it's been around for a while . But the Resin Evil two remake , I've heard nothing but good things about it . And my rule is like if there's something that's very, very popular and kind of like sensational, like mainstream popular, not in like a hipster way, just I mean like everyone is talking about it when it comes out . I like to wait until the dust settles and see, you know, five, six years later when it's eight dollars on steam, do people still have a positive impression of this? And I've never heard anyone turn on and be like, yeah, actually that was just hype and it's bad. So I decided to check it out because I was curious about it. And I had a unique position where I've played some of Resin Evil two but not all of it . So what I kind of want to do is play this game until I catch up to where I played Resin Evil two back in the day and then finish Prison Evil two original and then come back and finish this. Wow. It's a very elaborate schema that I've planned out here . It's like going on a bike ride and then halfway just stopping and jumping on a penny far game. I've got sort of a triathlon going. It's a biathlon of two versions of Resin Evil two . But I was curious about it because I'm also working on a third person over the shoulder horror game at the moment . And I wanted to see something that's interesting to me about this remake is that in my mind when it came out, it was like, oh, what if we took like resin evil four and how it's like cool and like the shooting feels good and we took resin evil two and made it better because like the shooting's good. And I was like, that sounds dumb. But what they've actually done is sort of take the feel of resinvil four and like the perspective of it and sort of like met not quite halfway, like closer to Rising Evil two dialed down the combat, made it more survival horrory and less like shooting hordes of guys who yell fo sort of starrow. Yeah. Yeah, exactly . And it's really it's good. I think it's actually it's a good adaptation. I think it's a it's a use case for me of when a remake makes sense. I think even maybe like more so than the silent hill to remake, even though I know that that is also widely considered a great remake. I think because it's more melee heavy , like Silent Hill two is like kind of supposed to feel like shit when you fight stuff . Resinval has sort of changed over time where you're doing, you know, enough combat, enough like shooting of stuff in Resenevil two that at some point you're like, man, I wish I could aim back again. The gun was pointing . I mean, even in the first one when the hunters turn up, I remember thinking like, oh, come on. Yeah, yeah. You've gotten better at surely Chris Redfield, you've gotten better at shooting. You know what I mean? We've killed together thirty zombies and probably and that big snake. Like come, on, man. Yeah. And like, I know Leon is a new cop in Resident Evil too, but like, you know, he's gone through like basic traits . Yeah, exactly. He's not like, you know, he understands how to handcuff a pregnant lady and leave in a cell for ten hours right? Learn a basic training I think. One on one shit . But yeah, I don't know. It's to me it's not all it's like it's not that it replaces Resident Evil two or that resin Eilv two needs like upgrading . It feels very different to me in that it's like yeah, I don't know. It's like a I wish there was another word that wasn't remaster or reading totally. You know what I mean? Yeah, and I think that's like I think that's why people really like these. Like and I and I'm not a huge let's remake everything person either, but like especially with the Capcom stuff've. put They like so much effort into , you know , they're effectively using like the narrative and the locations and a decent chunk of what you remember about the gameplay and sort of re imagining them with entirely new teams of people who didn't work on them. So like it is interesting, right? It's like looking at a like, I don't know, a painting and then you know a master doing a painting and then a protege interpreting that painting thirty years later. Like it is curious . Like it's , you know, even when you judge them on their own artistic level, obviously that's one thing, but like it's sort of impossible to do so without looking at the etymology of the franchise. And it's like I think there are certain series this lends well to. And I think Resident Evella is, you know, because it's a genre that was like right at the start and solid hill two right at the start of three D and third person cameras and all this sort of stuff and it is know on the the games can be good but like derivative but, like they're they're not derivative either weirdly for rem akes . Yeah, yeah, no, it's it's a fair point. I think that like there is interesting space to explore where like for a counter example, the Risen Evil one remake on GameCube, it's gap there's this gap of like you play the original Risen Evil in the CRT and the blurification, the murkiness of it. It makes it a very different experience . As we're all switching over to different types of monitors, now it's like it looks different. It's an experience that has changed over time. I feel like in that case, there is an aesthetic argument for making it look different and I think that it's one of the best and most justified remakes in my mind . In this case, it's like because that I think Resign Evil two looks fucking good, like I think it holds up really well , but I think that there's like interesting game design exploration to be done in this like, what if it controlled more acutely and tightly? What if the perspective was changed? What if you were seeing this environment from a different perspective ? And so to me, it's not like to me, a bad remake is like a cash grab remake where it's not doing anything interesting . It's disrespecting the source material in some way , like the new Silent Hill two movie that Gonz did that's like just changing the whole story, apparently. Like I mean that's not a remake, that's an adaptation, but still like the point still holds up that it's like you should respect the source material, but there is room to experiment like this. And so I think that there is there are interesting game design questions being asked by the Resin Evil two remake and that's why I think it's an interesting remake Yeah, and just like adapting like the things that you need to do to find that middle point between action resin evil and like clunky fix,ed camera, survival horror reason evil. I think in that middle space there's an interesting third option. How much did you grab it for? Because it's forty bucks at the moment. I think I literally paid eight dollars for it. Nice . Yeah, good stuff. And to your point , overwhelmingly positive, fifty six , almost fifty seven thousand reviews, but the recent reviews are also overwhelmingly positive. So people have not in the six years or seven years God, of this game has been out. People have not sat on it. Seven years, that is God, I'm never getting to my backlog. I've just that's it 's that's it. Finally, I've conceded. I'm never going to do it. I'm never going to play I'm never going to finish Balders Gate three. I'm never gonna complete fucking a lot of people are not going to finish Baldur's Game Deliverance two , there's all the , you know, never. It's not happening. Stop it. Stop worrying about it though . Resin Evil two remake available now. I want to briefly chat about Starseker. So this god, this came out of nowhere in the end. So this is the new game from System Era, the Astronier people . I played a demo of this at Pax West last year, I want to say and it's come out in early access on june eleventh. It's had a bit of a rough launch by the seams of things. Reviews at the moment are mixed and I think I have a decent handle on why this might be the case. So Starseker is I really don't want to be reductive about what it is. Who has played Austin here? Just out of interest. Jeremy, I know we did some research on it for our documentary did a number of years ago. Yeah, no cops you haven't played it. Nope. No, Frankie Mhm. All right, cool. You got to say no. You can't just, it's a podcast. You gotta stop. I did not play Astronare. I'm sorry. Thank you. Thank you, Frank Kelly. So Astronare is basically like a like what would you call it like a survival crafty game, kind of more on the crafty, less on the survival, very copy, I would say like friendly, not you know, no combat kind of stuff like that. You're mostly just exploring, doing science , it's very sort of sciencey and put this on this and collect this stuff but you know, accessible and whatnot . And Starseker is essentially like an like I don't want to just say it's an extraction one of those, but like that's kind of what you're doing in this one. So on this one, you're on a big spaceship. It's online. So this other astronauts, well, it's in the astronaut universe. So there's other astronauts wandering around sort of like hell divers you go up to a mach ine, you get you get a quest from somebody, you go up to a machine, you hit a button, you drop ship down to a planet. There are multiple planets on these planets. You have quests that you can do . You have a certain amount of oxygen that you have that you know you can stay on the planet for a certain amount of time. You can do a lot of the astronary stuff, which is like mining for resources and collecting them and stuff like that and then going back to your dropship . And then yeah there are some quests you can do like you know just scanning items or collecting things or quest specific stuff and things like that. You can play I think up to four players on a crew, I think is the idea . But the idea is that it is this wider social sort of sim , the spaceship element of it I like because you know it's sort of what I wish arc readers had, like, I wish instead of being in the menu in Sporanza, there was like a sporanza. You could walk around and see people and chat and do. It would like give it like a cool sense of place I think. And I think in this one, you know, you can access a lot of your customization and you know, there are literal vending machines selling. You can use in game currency you get from Quest and stuff to like buy cosmetics and they're like actual machines. And there's like, you know, group targets, right? So the whole everyone on the spaceship has to get a certain amount of quest s for the next thing to unlock, right? So I like it conceptually. I think it's like an interesting extension of the , you know , I guess I wouldn't even call it like you're extracting in a way in the in the game, but not really and the flow of the game feels more sort of it's not MMOE, but it's definitely like live service persistent, that type of thing. And I think given how Astronair is very social like that and welcoming, I think it's a good evolution of it That said, I think there's a couple of things that people are irked about, perhaps. First of all, I'm surprised how little marketing I saw for this. I think Devolver obviously bought System Air a number of years ago . So they're like wholly owned now . I feel like I didn't see all this much except for that big packs booth that was quite impressive last year . The I think some of the people thought this was going to be just like a sequel to Astronier once they saw it. And I think that's where some of the disappointment is because you know, like the worst thing you can do is like some people to think that it's not online enabled or onl ine only and then realize that it is. It's an online game and you have to have other people and there's other people wandering around your world and there's other people in your spaceship and there's other people on the planet and all this sort of stuff like I know there's just certain people that just don't want to mess with that stuff at all. It's a little the new game experience is a little bit early accessy like they'll take a couple more swings maybe at the tutorial to pull it in but the action of it , I enjoy, the graphics are they're weirdly like maybe it was my setup or something. They're almost like too bright at certain times, but like I like the art design on it. The ship I adore. The ship design is really fantastic. Yeah, but I also did feel as somebody who plays games like this solo, like it's just how I play . Similar to Hell Divers , I felt like I was getting the sort of value meal of the game. Like I should be playing with other people. And that's, you know, sort of on me in a way, but I'm not sure I'd unless you're big into Astrona Iire,'m not sure I'd recommend it to people at this point as a solo player because I did feel like one of the early quests was to like heal people. And that's kind of hard to do if you're on your own . And you know, just little bits and bobs like that, but yeah, it's it's interesting. I would be a little bit concerned for them given the initial launch on it and I don't quite know what the direction of travel, how much it'll change now, or if they have a bunch of stuff or patches, I'm sure they're working super hard and all that sort of stuff . But yeah, it's a I like the I like the vision behind it. I think the execution maybe needs a little bit more tuning , but hopefully it has a longer access life but I don't know. It's always hard when a game has a rough launch , it's not everyone could be no man's guy which is a weird comparison to make with Astroner because those games are actually sort of in a way similar, I guess. It is a weird like genre jump in my mind because Astron , despite being a game where you can, you know, run out of oxygen and die in the vacuum of space, it is sort of like a cozy game in a way. Like to me, it's sort of like a, you know, building sandcastles with your friends type game So I feel like the audience that they have cultivated and the expectation that they've built around what an astronaire type game is might just be experiencing friction with them being like, what if , you know, what if we made like astronaut night rain I should mention that there's still like no combat in this game. Like you can't like shoot other people. It's not that's why I was maybe extraction was a messy way of explaining it. It's an extraction shooter in that like you run out of oxygen. So you can only spend a certain amount of time on the planets and within that time you have to do quests and stuff. But there is there are aliens that can attack you and you can sort of like knock them back or throw things at them and then when they like are stunned you can like sedate them like you like the non combatantness of the game literally go up and just like sedate this thing . I And think you can sedate other astronauts, I think, just kind of in a way is like kind of darker, you know what I mean? Like it's a bit dexter the whole thing. I'm gonna sedate you now you're mine, little prince It's like worse than killing in a weird bizarre way. Yeah. But so yeah , but I think your point still stands in that like loop of this is a bit more like extraction panic, right where you you are sort of under duress trying to do the quest before you, you know, run out of oxygen and whatnot. Yeah, because an astronaut it's very self directed where if you want to venture off beyond the confines of the base, you can determine what your comfort zone is and how far you go. So if you play Astronair, presumably with a group who have some hardcore gamers and some very casual gamers all in the same group . They can play in the same session, contribute to the same base and all have a sort of like self directed experience in terms of intensity in terms of risk and like pushing their luck and stuff. Whereas this is like, you know, you're like dragging your friend who just wants to hang out through the mud. Yeah, that's a good point. In a way reminds me of what Rafkos was saying about like games that are big and games that are small, like you can have, you know, I'm not going to cannibalize your whole video so I won't say anything else. But like, yeah, like how a game like Tetris, for instance, has a sort of a wider horizon or like, you know, chess than , you know, even a really high production value linear game . In a way Astronaut's possibility space feels bigger even if this is a bigger thing, maybe because it's less directed or more self directed. I have to play more of it. I've only played maybe three, four hours of it . But yeah, I'd be interested to hear from people. If they've touched on it, if they're Astronaire fans podcast at Noklip , let us know what you think. You can pick it up on steam. It's only thirty bucks. Make a bigger bon Steam thirty bucks. You can get the bundle with Astronair for fifty or you can get the Founders Edition , which I did because I like that studio for thirty five bucks , which adds in some little cosmetics , which I which I enjoyed, although it took me thirty minutes to figure out how to put them on because it was there was a changing room thing in one of the space station rooms and I could not for the life of me figure out I was just going through menus and googling, Oh, I'm changing my shit this game and finding seven thousand astronaer tutorials for that and a very confident response from Google's AI, which also told me the wrong solution. So great to see those steam machines are well priced . That's it Starseker. Astronaut Astronier Expeditions available early access right now on steam . Frank Howle,y you've been dabbling. You've been getting your gears of war on fudging around with those Vermontite games. What have you been enjoying? Yeah, so when Xbox announced gears of war e day, it looked really good. And I was like, Damn, maybe I'll finally play Gears of War. So I played gears of war when it originally came out, I played gears of war remaster when that came out . The original Xbox one remaster, not the new remaster that came out a few years ago . And so I just started the journey with Gears of War two and I was never played gears of war two. It's the best gears of war was I was shocked. It immediately starts on these like giant tanks, aliens are flying like what I love about Gears War two compared to Gears War one it feels like, Gears one is the same flavor. It's just hallways, you're crouching, you're shooting and that's there is like the iconic moment where like the moonlaser comes down or whatever. But Gears War two it's like, oh my god, it constantly moves and it was incredible. The funniest thing about it is like the Xbox Live servers still work . I was able to play with I was able to play with a few friends, but there was one point during a driving mission where a guy from Mexico joined my game. I looked at his gamer thing. He was playing on our original Xbox three hundred sixty and , not an Xbox one. His only games that he had were like Gears of War and like Dragon Ball Z games. He was like a hardcore gears fan. And then it was my first time playing Gears of War two. I didn't know the level, so I kept accidentally crashing my tank into the ice. It kept falling in. And then within like five minutes he quit. I was like, oh no. I'm sure this guy was looking for someone to play Gears of War Co op with for like years. And then it was a misconnection. I don't know. This was single player co op. This wasn't multiplayer, right? No, so it was yeah, well what do you call it it's up to two players co ops. So I always just hosted a public lobby and someone was able to jump in. But through the rest of the campaign, I had friends jump in and out and it's yeah, game a was what two thousand nine , but it has very friendly checkpoint systems if you die. And I die a lot in this game, but you just reload. It was really, really fun . And funny enough, the multiplayer modes, if you choose to play it, the servers are populated with bots. So if you wanted to you can still grind achievements. Yeah. So I did I was doing like capture the flat no King of the Hill mode because there's an achievement for winning three King of the Hill matches and it was just me and like seven bots but we still won just tagging them with grenades over and over like it's the bots will like kind of glitch together and line up in the same spot but your allies are bots and they're not good either but it's it kind of reminded me of play like unreal tournament. Was that horde mode and was that gears two? I think that launched into so I'm isn't there a nightmarish like you have to win get to level fifty in that or something. Remember there was an achievement in that serious seriously two there is well I think forgetting level fifteen in a bunch of hoard ones but there's also the big achievement in that serious isly two point zero which you need to get, I think it's one hundred thousand kills . So at the end of like it might be ten thousand . I think it's one hundred thousand. And so that's why that guy in Mexico is probably still playing When I beat the first campaign, I think I killed like seven hundred and fifty people. So here so I think locusts Yeah. people. That's right, locusts. Also, there's a crazy ass scene the whole game this was like apparently one of the gaming's biggest twists I've heard. Is this Maria? Yes. I read when I was playing I was like, Oh my god When's he gonna get to Maria? The whole game is Dom is looking for his wife Maria. He's got his postcard. It's like I gotta find Maria. Tell me where Maria is. And you get to like one of their bases and it's almost it's kind of very similar to like half life too where Alex and everyone is like captured in the pods. It's classic two thousand nine male fantasy shit. You know what I mean? The fucking girlfriend, it's like River City ransom or whatever, you know what I mean? It's like, oh the, you know, girlfriend in distress. But hey, at least they bucked the trend with Maria. It was crazy. It was so like he can spoil it. You can spoil it. He only makes before you spoil it. Yes. Yeah. I've never played this game. Does she like turn into a locust? Does they make her like a locust squeak? Worse. Oh shit, all right. So he opens, he opens the door and for a second, it's almost like fantasy. Maria comes out, hugs and thanks you, Dom hugging. And then it does this like cool fade where it fades the reality and she's basically lobotomizing a skeleton. Like she's fucking all she looks like she's completely emaciated like yeah , you know, like she's like half life too. She's like one of those what were they called? I forget what they're called, but you know, there's the ones that were like on little , you know, blades they walk on, you know, she's totally emaciated and yeah, it's just like in her eyes. Is she dead already? Here's the dead here's the crazy thing about it. This doesn't make any sense to me. Her eyes are like shot like she's alive, she's breathing, but she's basically I mean maybe she's suffering in pain and Sadam is like, I love you, Maria and then he pulls out the biggest magnum I've ever seen and shoots and shoots her brains out. And I'm like, That's why just bring your back home. What are you doing? I think she was past it. I think I feel like you could have kept it. I don't know, bring her back to Earth for burial. I don't know, but that didn't whatever. I haven't been in that sense. No, it probably was. It was probably just let's extend a sort of chauvinist view on this one. Maybe it was just like my wife used to be hot and now it's like no good anywhere to find the illness. Okay , I didn't sign up for this. You know what I mean? Maybe that's the type of guy Dominic. Maybe Dominican has to do with home care, hospice stuff. But yeah, he was just like, oh shit , she's past it, man. She's dead and like fucking Marcus is there like, Dom, we can bring her to the hospital. She's fine. And he's like, No, man, she's too far gone. You know what I mean? Like maybe that's, you know, I wouldn't put a past Cliffy B. Good App. That's what playing this game, I wanted to like listen, I want to like now listen to Cliffy B's audiobook because I can't imagine the tone of that. I'm kind of yeah, I mean I remember the voice acting of the guy playing Dom actually being like very affecting. I remember like he like panics to Marcus, right? And Marcus is like he's like, what do I do or something? And Marcus is like this is above my pig rate. I was looking at like Gears of two War launch stuff, like there's midnight launch videos. They were giving out there was a Gears of War two Zoom they gave away at midnight launches at Best Buy, which you can still buy on eBay. You can buy a Gears of War two Zoom for like a hundred bucks on eBay. I thought about it. It looks so cool. It's got the skull on the back. But there was at Universal Studios at CityWalk. There was a midnight launch event with all the voice actors and they're like doing a death match and some guy in the crowd is just Bender Bender because it's John Demagio because it's John Demagio. Screaming Banger. Yo, that's Bender. Bender. He's just screaming the entire But playing gears of war too. It's yeah, you just hear John Demagio as Bender. I was very confused for a second because that when I where I grew up that was, a homophobic slur. So I was like like a sort of like a soft one, but like, yeah, I was like, why are they shedding that? I thought they're shouting Maria. I thought you didn't say that Maria. So now it wasn't yeah, the game had just launched so people didn't know yet, but yeah it blew my mind. I was like, Damn this is so cool. So I want to I want to keep the journey. Also, I will say running. Again, I'm pretty dismissive of the Steam machine because the series X is an incredible console and now with GamePlass slice, it's a better bargain than ever. Again, series X is what like six hundred that's so much cheaper than Steam machine. If Microsoft's not paying this guy I mean they're missing Yeah, you know who needs a steam deck buy two Xbox? Exactly. You can even you can even the like cloud gaming , but running out of your pimp in the fucking gears of war zooms. It's sick. Like this is how much of a marketing. You can get one on eBay right now for two hundred you could buy fucking eleven zoom gears zero gears fandom anymore. So it's like kind of like what Jeremy is saying with Resident Evil, like let the dust settle. No one cares about no one even cares about gears of war either. I am so like it's so fun diving into phantoms after everyone's left. It was like, why have a giant spawn collection because I bought them all for pennies? No one cares about spawn. Like that's that's where the real research begins. That's why Indiana Jones is diving into catacombs and putting m themuse inums because he knows like that's the fun stuff. No one cares about a gears of war . There are dozens of us motherfucker Ice T's got one of those. And Ice T is in Gears of War three This is a Gears of War Lancer When we were in Maryland, there was somebody from, is it DP? Who is the who maybe not ? Maybe it's not DP . What fuck was the name of the company? I forget they make all these gears of war answers. My favorite thing about this gears of war answers is the fact that it still has to have an orange tip just to shoot you. Some of the police at the end of cure the four lancer, take them out. And everything. Yeah, they sent like multiples of these. So Frank, if you're ever up here, please take one of my gears away I'll just bring it to the airport . Yeah, it's hard step. It's fine. I like the idea of someone seeing you holding that. It'd be like, oh my God, it's a real gun with a chains on it. Like the thing that goes through their mind is like, they're so terrified because there's a person with a gun, but it's also like a type of gun they've never seen before but they live in a world, their universe . their In universe , this was a possibility that guns could have chainsaws and they just hadn't come across them before. It's like the Tim Robinson like for a moment. I thought monsters were in this world. one hundred percent. That might be my favorite line of any of show his s. For a moment, I thought I lived in a world where monsters were real Oh my god. But I was going to say with gears. So yeah, I finished . So Gears War of two it's a three hundred sixty game running on ser ies X. It runs incredible like sixty frames. The graphics are great. So now I'm excited to dive into Gears of War three, which is twenty eleven. That will probably look even better. That has four player co ops. So I'm going to play with friends, have a public lobby. If anyone is playing gears of war three over the next week or two, jump in my games, we'll play and then there's still Gears of War Judgement, Gears of War four , which I thought I thought judgment was Gears of War four . So I can't believe that there's another Gears of War four Gears of war five and then E Day in October. Yeah, I'll say you're you're on the peak from here on out it's a it's a it's a it's a downward slope of various degrees three is three is decent. Three is pretty solid. Like two is the best, I think. Three is definitely solid. Judgment is they had to make one, I think. Maybe they needed to get another gears out and then I didn't really play for, so I can't really talk about it it, but I heard's not maybe not awesome. I'm interested in ED , I guess. I like those first two gears of wars. They were great . I think ED is a astonishingly terrible name for any video game. Like I don't care that like it is emergency, that's what it was called in the original game. You saw it in the cutscene at the start . It's kind of neat that they're doing a prequel because they just ran out of things for Marcus to do. Like that guy was a washed up soldier at the start of the first game. So like it's hardly games that guy's on enough tours of the locust horde by now, but yeah it looks the graphics look good. Hey, if they can just even if they can bring back like ten percent of the joy of Xbox Life Gears of War around that time, it'll be worth it. That was some of the best multiplayer ever. It was so much fun, just running up and tagging dudes and chainsaw and peopled to pieces and it was so stupid. It was great. And it was tactical and fun . And then it was all about just like active reloading that shotgun and sticking it under someone's jaw and you know just blood and blood area was good. And people like sliding into cover, like running and then getting close enough and having the animation like snap them to cover uncanny ways . It was like and to cover. It was like paintball yeah. The original Gears War Multiplayer was so much fun. It was it was weird and clunky and you would get like the feeling that always comes to mind is someone would run towards you with the lancer and it was it was like resinvolve four where it's like control the shooting is really good but it's like it's you almost feel tankish and just coming towards you and you're just like trying to navigate the tank of your job. You couldn't really go find a turn. You're like a ship when you were running, you know, you 're like a bunch of freighters with shotguns just like trying to navigate a fuck canal. And like and like the running , like these guys had incredible quads because like they were just like the beefiest people with like all of this armor and then just like sprinting , you know, crouched. But the camera stuff was so cool. It was like , I had that shake to it and you know, it felt cinematic in a in a really cool way. So I do also have to add that I looked up at the Dom Finds Maria cutscene and in the background. I had it on mute playing while you guys were talking about it. And in the background, well, Dom is cradling his dying wife. There's a because it's an old Xbox game. There's like a gun in the background, like a pickup gun on the ground and it's shining because it's a pickup. So the whole God scene. He's like, Mar whereie are, we in no, baby. No . There's just like a fucking gun machine gun in the background glimmering. And it's really it's really, I don't know. Oh, I see it there. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like doing a shimmer every two seconds to be like, hey, pick up up, pick me . Don't shoot me with your what your that's like my favorite shit is when games try to do serious stuff, but it's like, you know, you have your like Tony Hawk custom character creator character who looks like Chester the Cheetah A couple of days ago I came across like on YouTube shorts or whatever. Somebody said this is why in engine cutscenes are better and it was it was one of the Red Dead Redemption two ones where like right before the cutscenes started the gu,y threw Malatov at the character and so he's just like melted he's like on fire during the cutscene while they're having this discussion and then by the end of it the fire has dissipated and he's just like completely bloodied and awful. And then it kicks back in and he's just standing there like dead. Like he doesn't he's supposed to run away or he's just like that. It's pretty there's no way I could find it. I'm sure everyone has seen it, but there's a video of someone playing Grandpet O five and Michael drives a blimp into a tower where the next mission guy is. And it's like it crashes in this horrendous way and people are screaming and Michael is thrown from the cab into the tower and he just lands where the mission starts. So it instantly goes to the cuts. The guy's like, Hey, Michael in the background, there's like the Hindenburg descending on fire. Like people scream Oh the humanity. See nobody ever complains about that. All the things in games nobody ever complains about it. It's a value ad. Like that stuff is it's so funny. Like we love that shit. That's why people that's my sandboxy stuff is so fun because like it's just the stupid shit that you get to enjoy. Amazing stuff. I want to talk about a couple of mine other crick hits and then Frank will see if you have any other bits and bobs you want to get to. I actually meant to talk about this with Starseker just because of the extraction nature of it, but Fortnite's new mode they added these sprites into it. I just want to talk about it from almost like a game design perspective. So they do these different seasons and usually it's like the map gets a refresh , you know, different characters, stuff like that. The sprites are basically like an extraction thing that they've added in. So like during the game there are these like they're like cute little fat Pokemon things. They're like, you know, two foot tall. There's like a water one and an earth one and like there's a there's a burnt peanut one as well. And then there's ones that are like galaxy where they have like galaxy is you know, whatever. They're just like they look like I don't know something between a Pokemon and a fucking squishmallow. They're like these little things . And you pick them up and they give you perks and if you use them during the level , you can they level up and then you know at a certain level the perk gets better. Like it could be like, oh it's like you know the water one gives you health regen if you're in the water or another one , you get more ammo. If you pick up ammo, you get like twenty percent more ammo, stuff like that . But around the map, they have like extraction pods. So when you go up and hit the butt on, alarms go off, things go up so people around will know that somebody's trying to extract some of their sprites . And then you can collect as sprite, you can collect as many sprites as you want and just have them in your inventory. You always have one sort of on your back and then you can essentially extract those sprites and there, I don't know how many there are like twenty, thirty of them. And when you extract one, then you have like kind of access to it forever. If it dies in a level, if you die in a level with one, you lose that sprite. But every time you extract a sprite, you get basically sprite dust is what it's called, the fucking the currency and you can, you know, bring back one of your sprites. You're essentially trying to just every time you get a new one of these sprites, every time you find a new one, you're trying to go to an extractor to extract it so it's part of your library, essentially . And then when you're in the game, you can use you can kill other people, take their sprites, you can camp the extraction zones and and you take those sprites and if you already have the sprites, you can just extract them just to get the sprite dust, which is used to, you know, bring them back and stuff. So it's it's interesting because it's like it's, the first example I've seen and maybe I've never seen this before, of a game just kind of inserting an extraction element into the regular game because it's still a regular game of Fortnite. You know, of estentim I'll , you know, lose because I spent too much time doing the little sprite shit or whatever or you know or sometimes I get to the end of the level and I'm like, fuck do I want to go into the final fight or do I want to get this one extracted right now? Like it's it's a weird Fortnite's always had like quests and all this other stuff but it's a very strange game within a game thing that I think it really I think it works like I think I'd run out of I'll run out of patience with this. I haven't played loads of this. My wife's been playing bunches of it and I've been watching her. I've played a couple of hours of it but yeah it's I kind of like it as a game design concept that they didn't just like try and make a fortnight extraction shoot. You know what I mean? Like that's sort of the thing is like you go make an extraction game. They just, you know, found a kind of an interesting way to stick it into regular Fortnite , at least for a season or so. So yeah, it's kind of neat. Frank, you're nodding. Have you touched this? No, I haven't haven't played Fortnite. But I have friends who will keep up with it and we'll post screenshots and stuff, but it's cool. Like again, I always like kind of hate extraction stuff. And I'm like, oh, that's I always like that Fortnite will just constantly just try new things every season and some stuff will steal stuff. Yeah. Yeah, it's like I was like seeing the evolution of the game. So that does sound cool. Yeah, it's it's an interesting yeah, like angle on this whole on this whole thing. Jeremy, does your like sort of stomach turn when you hear these things? Like Fortnite Pokemon Spring , I seen it all, man. You know, like I don't fucking I don't buy like a lean cuisine frozen dinner and expect it to be ourmet restaurant food, you know what I'm saying? Like there are this is the thing is like games is such a ridiculous category of like experiences that it's not I would never be like a Fortnite, you should be playing like , you know, that dragon cancer or whatever that game is called. Like how you're you Philistine, like what the fuck is wrong? You know what I mean? Try to think of what would be the best art house game to bring when you said OR and then you nailed it. Like that was it. That was it. You're right. That was it. Perfect. Yeah. It's like, I don't know, if someone's like, Oh man, I saw a fucking ant man for over the weekend. I'm not going to be like, why didn't you fucking go watch come and see you dirty peasant? I don't know. It's fortnite, I don't know, whatever. I don't fucking care. They can do whatever they want over there. And they are. They're doing whatever they want. And sometimes involves new ideas and sometimes it involves jumping on trends or sticking artists I've never heard of in their game like Lao Fei who now is going to have terrible SEO because of that fucking new goddar war game. But here we go. Or Laufi, I don't know you said in more, I'll pivot to something cooler so people can respect me again . Goblin America's out . Gil Laswon's game, Gil, of course, who organized computer worlds and put that whole thing together and then used that showcase to promote his own game Goblin America, the shameless son of a bitch. The game's finally out. It's you can download a demo. It's twelve seventy four on Steam at the moment, usual price fifteen dollars ninety nine cents. I love this game. This is the art house game. This is the sort of , you know, the chic to my dirt, I don't know what , I don't know what else. I started the metaphor and I can't the harmony Korin to your like , I don't know, whatever Christopher Nolan. I thought you were going to say the chic to your Zelda because Zelda's like pretty normal and then Chic is her bad alias. Oh, really? I didn't mean to spoil our occurren of time . Well until you tell me what to chik, very good. Okay, I'll find out Sheic on the moon or whatever. I don't know nothing about Ocrane of Time. They're making a remake, so maybe I'll play it out. Yeah, so Goblin America, how do you explain this? So it's sort of, I guess, boomer shooter cod ed in a way in that it is like a fast paced shooter game . It is unlike anything I have ever played. It is the story , the levels are essent ially taking you through American history but through just the most insane goblin lens, I guess. I don't know how else to explain it when it's spoiling things, but you will be re enacting parts of American history from time to time or just indulging in Americana throughout the ages , but in worlds that are incredibly colorful and saturated and vibrant and esoteric and confusing and sort of terrifying and filled with little goblin men . Some of whom are cops you should shoot and some of whom are just regular people . The level design is absolutely insane . It's full of ideas. It is I am loving playing it. It is impossible to explain . Like people need to just check out the trailer for Coblin America. If you like classic FPS games, I think there's a lot here. I love the shooting, I love the movement. If you like counterstripes counter strike surfing , like it has that. Like that is a big part of the game. I don't know what to say about this thing. It's fucking great and weird. We should we'll probably do an indie wreck this week at some stage wherell I' show off some of it. Yeah, it's it's insane. You know what it reminds me? What was that game I played a couple of weeks ago or a couple months ago that like almost made me like disassociate as a human. It was the mama's crying angels or something. What was it called? Oh, mama's sleeping angels. Mama's sleeping angels was just like the most like I I'm forty . I've played a lot of video games. Any video game that can make me feel like when I was a kid or teenager and I did not know what the fuck was going on, but I liked it, which was most games back then I'm into. And this I don't know why we call these games. I guess we call them computer worlds. That's what we're stuck with . They tickle a part of me that has remained untickled too long, I would say . And yeah , and it's hard to quantify. I can't say it's because I love the graphics or the gameplay. Like all those things are interesting and cool, but it's just this jinse that I cannot put my finger on and I don't want to. I don't want to quantify what I like about these games. I just play them and and I just I guess am I vibe playing? Is that what the kids are gonna say now? Was this vibe coded? I don't know, it's fucking it's it's awesome and people should check it out. If you like no games that appear on Noclip two, just play this fucking game. What are some of the like historic events that you re enact or whatever? I'm curious about that . So there's lots of levels. There might be like, I don't know how many I'm only like four or five in because I keep replaying them. Some of them are big. Like some of them are like, there's so much to explore. It's like because the world is so vibrant and weird, I'm sort of poking around every corner trying to see shit. But like as an example, I don't want to spoil too much, but like as an example , the opening level is the assassination of a famous president and you are that present . And you get to somebody who's like, you know, turn around when you're in the theater and you know what I mean? It's like and it's and so the game has there's like narrative in it in that the levels have text when you're going in that sort of explain kind of what's gonna happen, but then like for instance, the second level , the second level is like, I think it's based and some of these are probably references and I'm not picking up on, but I think the second level is based upon like a world's fair or something because it has like in the game you are , you know, you have things you're supposed to do like kill people or get to a certain point or whatever it is, right? The game is like sort of intentionally weirdly esoter ic when it comes to objectives, let's say and like items and character upgrades. Everything is weird. Everything is just like, you know, seven steps removed from what you would think is normal . But in this like, you know, in this level that like, you know, is sort of a time based thing. Like the game gives you like time, you know, how long it took to complete it , but it has this massive area of just optional stuff you can go check out in this like, you know , everything , it's just nothing makes any it's just so bizarre. And one of this and this like world's fair type thing was like all about Americana and there's one chamber that was called the CT chamber and you could go in and press a button and it just fired footballs at your head and you had to like get out of it . And then there was like this and but it's done with this like reverence of, you know, of like the past and like it's just and some of the levels are like very , you know, I don't know, they look like LA or they look it's so weird. It's and it's definitely like me, you know, I'm learning about I'm not learning about American history, but I'm learning about like aspects of power, let's say, or influence or culture through it. It's very , you know , it's hard not to think when you're playing this game about what it's not maybe what it's explicitly saying, but like what it what it portends what it like I think it's such a funny mirror to hold up to things that people have so much devotion towards, you know what I mean? Like I found over here that there is almost religious fervor around like the founding fathers and the Cstonitution in a way that like the European brain cannot comprehend because like history was full of idiots and smart people and they're all mixed in together. And like the idea that there is this like this it's just, very Protestant and, you know , New Testamenty or whatever . And this game is so , I find it as very funny at like just stripping once you strip away the artificial of culture and sort of just look at it in like sort of frank you know, it's almost like an alien coming to Earth and you trying to explain why things should matter to them and then you're like okay why is that important? That's just a story from the past. Like, alright, it's like, that's the vibe I get off of it is that it's like this sort of bizarre mirror to view history through . But just on pure gameplay, I love it because the games are just mental. They're just the levels are like it's like loading into like old level lord maps in Quake or unreal and being like, what fucked up shit's in this one? You know what I mean? Like you get to like crack open the Christmas cracker and then be like, all right, let's see what weird stuff's going to be in this level. And it's yeah, it's endlessly entertaining. I think it's just cool. It's packed full of shit. It's ridiculous. That concept also it almost reminds me of like Hunter S. Thompson's fiction work or something. Like turning up the American identity to an absurdist degree in order to sort of like reveal deeper truths about it . That's like a that's a really interesting mode that I don't see a lot in games. Yeah, because like the sort of I've not read any of his fiction, but like the sort of straight laced version of that is like a bioshock infinite or something, you know, where it's sort of like , I don't know, the like mainstream interpretation or something like that and I like I like a lot about Bioshock Infinite's set up in the world. I think ultimately it's it doesn't have the depth because of just how matter of fact it's commentary on American it kind of is, but I think the further it tries to go deeper, the less good it gets actually . But this is like if like Bioshock Infin ite was like American history on like Coke, this is American history on acid. This is just like absolutely insane . And yeah, it's great. I don't want to see any more about it because I'm just going to spoil weapons and levels and the audaciousness of the whole thing. But yeah, just go check out the trailer and yeah you'll either immediately tickle your interest or you'll remain tick less for the rest of your life . Goblin America, pick it up now. Steam Parrot. com . Frank Elley. You played some more stuff? Yeah, so in terms of Fat Shark , yeah, I spent like a dozen more hours playing warhammered Dark Tide. I love that game. I hit max level. I had to like crank it up to hard difficulty which forced me to like really learn the game and like mission then became like three people get will down and one person's around to try to revive and it was like the most intense. It was like this game is so good. I love it. So I hit max level. I kind of want to make a new class because there's a Judge Dread class that's awesome. It's twelve dollars DLC. But I like the game so much. And I'm like, you know what? I might spend it and make a new class But yeah, I started Vermontide too because like fuck I really like this game. I want I got to try a warhammer Vermintide and it's funny Vermontide two the PS four version came out in twenty eighteen . So I just started that and I don't expect there to be people playing it because it's there's no crossplay. So there's like I think there's four different versions of Vermontide. There's steam. Sorry, Vermontide too. There's the Steam version, which is definitely the most popular. There's like an Xbox one version. There's a series X version, which theorically would be the best way to play. That came out in twenty twenty, but I don't know anyone with an Xbox. So if I want to play with multiplayer friends, PS four is my best bet. So I'm playing the PS four version on PS five. And I thought you played as rats. You don't play as rats. All the enemies are rats. You're playing as a traditional likeal Bders ggate likeauntlet legacy, like a traditional like D and D group. You got like the little dwarf, you got the, I'm playing as like an elf chick with a bow and arrow, like chic . And it's so cool. It's so fun. I thought too it was just ranged melee, which is why I immediately jumped on Warhammer Dark Tide because you're shooting some of guns. I picked the bone arrow class. You can constantly like throw bombs and arrows and like, yeah, it's it's so cool. So I think I'm just gonna like play through the campaign. If I'm just playing with bots, I might keep it at an easy difficulty, but I'm also gonna see if I can bug friends to play with me. But yeah, damn, that shark is awesome. So I really liked Dark Tide and that is still cool that you got to like go back and play a bunch of them as well. Yeah, 'cause it's like again, it's all the core of it's still left for dead stuff, but yeah I was like, I just don't know, Vermit never clicked with me, but after really seeing the guts of Dark Time, I'm like, Okay, let me try this out. So Vermontide is good. It is a little bit more old school. There's like literally loot crates after you beat a mission. It's like the overwatch animation where it's like , I feel like you don't see that anymore in games Star Wars battlefront had that too. But yeah, I will keep playing Vermontide too and then yeah, I mean, I mean and there's a new class launching a dark tide this week. So a bunch of people are driving the Dark Tide, which is cool to see. But that's not what that's not the judge is that the judge dread? No, the judge dread class is like two DLCs ago, but that's the one I want to hold that's the one I want to get because you have a dog. And so I think because the hard dog, he's got a dog. No, well not actually, you know what? I haven't read all the Judge Dred comics. I feel like there might be I think there are canine units in Judge Dread, but in this in Dark Warmer Dark Tide, yeah, it's like the Judge Dread class you have a shield, you have a dog with you. So like an extra companion, which I think is helpful because so much of Dark Tide's gameplay is like you can get pinned down by other enemies, but if you have the dog, the dog can help you . I think it can help you back up as well , but so I'm like, Dan, that might be I feel like what happens a lot with these base games is every time they add DLC classes, the DLC classes are always overpowered. So I'm like, Damn I got to do the Judge classes and I'll all over a Jedi problem all over again. Fantasy is real because every time I played multiplayer in Dark Tide, someone always had the Judge Dread class and I always thought, damn, that looks so much more f you know, it's the FOMO. So I got to play the Judge Dread class. I also just realized just before we head over to emails, I did realize that the embargo for Star Wars galactic racer, is that what it's called? The pod racing game is up and you played this at SGF, right? Yeah, that so it's the embargo was so far away. It was like, well, I can't talk about the SGF video, but yeah, I was surprised. Star Wars Galactic Racer is made by a bunch of former Criterion people who did for you speed, who more importantly did burn out. It plays like burnout. It's it's like way better than I expected. Like I'm very dismissive of Star Wars stuff. This was really good . The structure of it is very much like a rogue like you're doing your grandprix your championship s. And you start the game with a very base speeder and then you pick your missions almost like a rogue like or even like oh my god super giant game Hades like Hades you're picking which upgrades you want , power you'reing up your car. If you get disqualified at a race, you have to start the Grand Prix again, but you start with your vehicle already enhanced. So you can unlock interesting. You can unlock other vehicles like motorbike speeders, like and the crashing is so satisfy ing. So it's got like there's you can like turn on a shield if someone's about to crash into you. You've got like your damaging energy boost. You can crash in other people. It's got the crazy cinematic cameras . The craziest thing is between races , you're like walking around and like talking to other people and so it's gone really that blew me away. I was like, what the hell? And I'm mad that there was an embargo because there was a sick ass like alien gator guy that was maybe the coolest character design I've ever seen and maybe there's gameplay footage of it up now, but I was like yeah Aiman Former has a video who is the alien alligator thing? Is it like in the world? You see? He was like in the world when you're walking around and I should have written down that I don't know if a real character in Star Wars, it was just a little gator dude with like a little pilot and it was like, Dan, this character is so sick . I think you make your own character when you when you are doing the campaign. I'm assuming it's got multiplayer, but yeah, I played about like thirty minutes of it. I was like, oh my god, this is really good. This comes out October and yeah , that's soon, really. Yeah, and yeah, it's really cool. I feel like the original pod racing game didn't put emphasis on the crashing. You did have damage like and you would crash and stuff, but this is straight up like burnout, it's pod racing I've also seen that there's like speeder racers in it too. It's not just pod races. Like there's is that what you called him speed. I don't know a Star Wars person isn't cool. The speeders the motorcycle. There's like three moroccle. Thanks. Yeah, it looked cool. So I think the demo was just one plan they showed us, but yeah, it's better than expected. So I liked it. So it comes out, I think, October . Man, okay. I'm looking forward to I'm not a Star Wars person, but I'm a criterion person. So I'm really interested in this. I'm a reformed Star Wars person. So I'm always like , I love Star Wars so much as a kid. I hate what it's fucking become , but this actually looks really good. I want this. Give me that, give me that throwback. It just like also it just fucking like it just looks great. Like the I was just skipping through the Game Informer video 'cause you mentioned it and, him just like walking around the camp and talking to people and it just has a nice sense of place . Love it. Good stuff. There's a lot of games this week, folks on the podcast. Let's take one email, Frank. You want to this was a pretty good story, so do you want to read this one Ashman? Yeah. Brendan. If people do want to send us an email, please write to us podcasts at No Clip. video are in our patron channel on the podcast chat channel once again podcast at No Clip video. Brennan wrote in a story about Gamestop. Hey Cast and crew. Your recent talk about selling your childhood games at GameStop for nothing reminded me of my personal childhood vengeance against the GameStop corporation. In the south we, had a video game chain called Rhino Games and I've been using them for years. I sold games as soon as I felt I was done with them to get as much back for future games as possible and I got more if I took store credit instead of cash. So as a nine year old I literally had about one hundred seventy and five dollars in store credit with them saved up over the years. What about four months without getting a new game, came to the store and lo and behold, GameStop had bought them out. So here's a nine year old. I step up, hand them my printed receipt with my store credits to get a game and they just immediately said nope, your credits are gone, sorry, I can't do anything . This was devastating. Those credits were made up of Mario, Zelda, Ratch and Clink, all these classics I didn't hold onto just so I can keep getting new used games. So then I was determined to get my money back any way possible. So for the next five summers, I made a point to come in, get a used game and spend any amount of time and sleep necessary to beat it before fourteen days, and then go and return the game to game stop before the return window ended. Every single time I did it, I felt a little bit more satisfaction knowing that I was ultimately clawing my credits back from them, and it's probably the single most consistently petty thing I've done in my life. I just want to share, since you got me nostalgic, I wonder if y'all had any childhood game stop trauma too . Man, it's a good story, fair play for I like the commitment to the to the to the pettiness. It's that's good. Well earned I have lots from the other side of the counter, but what about you folks as customers of GameStop . Just them buying out all the game stores that I loved as a kid in Fort Like if you look up the Babbage's Wikipedia, it's just the Game Stop Wikipedia now . Oh, really? Yeah , well they own , I can't remember if they like bought them out or if they merged or if they were like owned by them the whole time and then they sort of like homogenized the brand or something but I really liked as a kid when there was a diversity of game stores to go to. There was babages and funco land and EB games and Gamestop kind of just embracered them all . What about to you? Any Gamestop love or hate. I don't like walking into game stops because they don't get it's like a car dealers. They get no business. So as soon as you walk in, you're swarmed by employees and it's like I feel so uncomfortable that I just don't ever go in there. But like, yeah, I mean, but as a kid, I feel like the staff was nice. I did want to once have an incident where my dad and I would picked up Enter the Matrix and it was shrink wrapped. And then when I got home, opened it, there was no CD or DVD, there's no game inside . And so Imm imediedatelyiately im went back and like the clerks were like, all right, they gave me the game. They weren't gonna like, they weren't gonna distrust a kid, but like that was weird that the disc went missing. Yeah, I bet they shrink ed it. We used to have shrink wrapped machines where you'd reshrink wrap stuff if it didn't if it was like returned or torn or something like that. Yeah, so I was bummed, but thankfully they honored it. And then on the other side, I remember being so annoying. I did this at Blockbuster too, but I was just dying to get an Xbox three hundred and sixty. So I think every week for a few months, I just kept calling Game stuff like yeah, is there anybody getting a three hundred sixty? I know I'm on the list. Is there any way? I think eventually the guy was like, all right, come and get your three hundred sixty. I think he was fucking tired. It works. Thank you, Jay, the manager of Richard Margery, GamesTop, which that location closed down many years ago. But yeah, I think again, I was a high school kid at the time. So I think they were just like, fuck, Jesus Christ. So you know, kindness kills. I remember when the three hundred and sixty came out and I was working GameStop and we had one in the back. Like our back room wasn't really a back room. It was just like a like a crawl space behind one of the behind one of the displays it might have been three and a half foot wide maybe and pretty deep, like twenty feet deep, maybe, but it was just like full of boxes. But we had to tiny out the CRT and an Xbox three hundred sixty in there and I'd go in and play project Author Racing. It was a good time before I could afford my own. Yeah, when I worked at just on Jeremy's point, I worked at an independent game shop before I worked at GameStop , which eventually shut down and then I got a job at GameStop because it' thes only other video game store in Tan . But I remember one time is this the second time I'm mentioning games dimension in two weeks? It might be Keith my boss sent me up to GameStop because we had run out of copies of I want to say it was Grant Rismo , I want to say. So he sent me up to Gamestop to buy five copies of Granis Frmo two so we would not be sending people to Game Stop. And I remember going in and being like, Hello, I'd like five copies of Grime. And he looked at me and he was like , I didn't know you could see in his eyes like I know you 're the kid who works at the other the other shop and you're like he wanted to sell his copy so he sold them to me and then later that guy would be my boss like a year or two later and I said it to him and he was like, yeah, I knew that was fine. Don't worry about it . But yeah, on that end. And then I have a million One stories about working at Capestop and fucked up things that happen that I'm sure I've told all of them on the pod. But my favorite one will always be the kid who came in the day after Christm as with a PSP who came in with his mother, his mother was screaming at us. It was morning, Christmas morning, Christmas had been ruined. Sorry, St. Simsday morning, Christmas had been ruined. She got him like , you know, two movies and two games or three games or something for this PSP. None of them worked and then I opened up where the manager was talking to her and I just like motioned to give me the give me the thing I'll take a look at it while she's doing that. And I opened up the back of the PSP and there was a no UMD in it. You know the little UMs, little universal media discs . But there was like a very small optical disc in it Frank just covered his face . Yeah , and then I was like, Oh no, oh no. And I was like, do you have do you have the other games as well? And she's like, yeah, yeah, she hands me over the bag . And he has cracked open all of these UMDs. He is like he is he is he has assumed that this is part of the packaging and has like, I don't know how we did it because like we I've tried with my hands to pull these things like you'd need to use a knife or something to price it's plastic that's fused on both sides and he yeah and I remember like this poor woman was still like shouting at my manager. And I remember thinking like this is going to be the most awful , embarrassing , like , don't rub it in. Like she was , you know what I mean? Like 'cause you could be a real prick about this and like really make someone look stupid. And the poor kid was there, like he was standing there and I'm like, oh no, he's gonna be embarrassed. Like this is awful and I have the curse knowledge and yeah, I just I said it to my I said it to my manager so she wouldn't hear it directly for me. I'm like I think he opened up all the things and then she was like she kind of like came down a gear and then I was like yeah I'm really sorry he probably didn't know he wasn't meant to do this but like yeah these are all toast. So we ended up giving them two free games and taking all the arrested shit was broken. So we took it in and I think my manager was like we can probably get away with sending two of these back as replens or whatever refurbs. So we let him pick two other games and he did that he was happy. That's fucking insane. Literally it's never occurred to me that you wise that anyone would even think to open those. Never in a million years would I one hundred percent, it's like so hard to get them open. Like he must have been like, God, these things are fucking sealed up tight. Doing it . He kept doing it. Like not once did occurred to us. Four times. Like you get all these and like if you put the fucking disc in there , like the slot is for something that's like a quarter inch thick. If you just like I opened up and there was like a spider man fucking CD this like two like a little fucking obstacle that just got a f cracking around in there getting scratched up from the internal you know because the packet of PSV is pretty fucked up back there, you know, it's all fucking gears and stuff and it was just like rattling around in there. And then he was like, I could ask my parents, but you know, I'll just try another one . Fuck laying? Crazy, yeah. Anyway , anyway , UMD's baby . Universal media disc, not universal enough for some kids as it turns out. Go check out the Star Wars Galaxy documentary over on No Clip the first one , the first video of Jeremy's awesome duo at Raf Coster, all about the Jedi problem and some wonderful insights into that game design challenge and the time and place in which Raf and that team met it. Yeah, and we've got a bunch of other stuff hitting No Clip two. We've got some very cool patreon stuff hitting No Clip two next month as well, which we'll talk about in due time. But until then , we'll we'll leave you be. Thanks, folks. Where are you guys doing anything fun for the rest of the week? Or it's kind of a weird time right now it's like some games coming out a little bit sleepy here and there but the sun's out bums out Dani bum out I'm going out to the woods with a buddy of mine who haven't seen it in a year. It was just his birthday so we're going away for a couple nights up to Vermont. Oh, beautiful. Yeah, gonna hang out in the woods and make some music and plays in video games. One of the first comments I saw in the Star Wars Galaxy video is oh, it starts with Jeremy in the Woods. I know I'm in for a good time. We got Jeremy in the Woods within the first minute. I have a good feeling about this one. I love that. There we go. We love it. Jeremy the Woods. No capsule about yourself, you up to much ? Not much probably hit the farmer's market since I missed it last week because I was away , but just the normal normal stuff you can go to at the farmer's market. Some of that cheese. You got a special fig spread you like. There's a really good bagel place . We usually get something from them. There's also a good bread place so a lot of gluten . Like it very cool. What do you do? How do you take your bagels ? Cream cheese, usually flavored cream cheese. Toasted but not too toasted. And what about what's on theide out ofs the bage l? Is it like everything ? I don't I feel like I've gotten too many salty everythings recently so I mean I do like the like cheddar cheddar jalapeno ones, sometimes it's too spicy. So usually I'll go for like a plain or an egg with a flavored cream cheese to balance an egg. I don't think I've had that before. Yeah. Everything I'm with you on the everything thing. Sometimes it works out alright, sometimes it's just like a salty nightmare. Can't deal with it. I have to like, you know, counterprogram it with some jam or something, you know, make it make it interesting. Enjoy your bagel time. Frank, what about you? You gonna eat round food . Well, Jersey Jack announced Sonic Pinball today, which is incredible. And there's a whole trailer. The biggest thing with it is I was so nervous that it was going to be based on the movie, which I hate that art style. Instead, all the art comes from Sonic generations and they even have like city escape, like all the dreamcast game music is in there. But for the pinball project, I might have the interview opportunity of a lifetime. So I just need to survive the next twenty four hours. And if it works out, this will be the greatest video ever . And then yeah, this weekend is GCW, Game Changer Wrestling in Los Angeles, but my friends and I to keep getting more footage, we might go play pinball before. So yeah, I've been very like just it's just been fucking pinball so pinball . So what about the Jersey Jack thing? Is that like can you play that somewhere? Is that selling it? Yes. So what happens with all the pinball manufacturers is they annou then gcedame and then the you can order it day of, it usually takes about a month. I think in the case of Stern's Transformers, that got announced at the beginning of the month . And now Transformers playing balls finally play ball across America. So guess how much the cheapest version of the Sonic , the hedgehob, hub hob , hob , Sonic, the hodgehob pinball machines . Guess I already know the answer. I can't. You do. It's ten thousand dollars. Oh, cheese. like a thousand dollars . Hey guys, if you want to spend money, if you, this is the stuff that you'd spend money on if you had infinite amounts of money. Have you seen Alexander Rostov's thing he's doing at the moment? Oh, he's selling original art or something, right? He is. And it's unbelievably beautiful. And the prints are like , you know sort of like this is art, this is real artist money, right? This isn't like , you know, I don't know , buying prints off Fiverr or something or whatever, right? This is like this is a an artist with a name going out there doing special editions and stuff like that . But I think one of them is I was like, man, I'd love to have an original rostaff. Wouldn't that be amazing? But the most expensive one I saw, I think you can get like a standard like ninety four by fifty five centimeter sorry, America , like signed gleasey printed, numbered version of one of these for like four hundred eighty bucks. Like that, which is like , you know, art as are, right? Like that's pretty cool. There is a version of this that you can get that is basically a it's an excuse an exclusive one with like where it's printed on canvas and then he touches it up with oils on top of the canvas and it's it's like the one version of this it'll ever be made. You can visit the studio, you can hang out with him and all this sort of stuff. I'm actually not even sure if that's the version this cost, but like the most expensive one here is thirty eight thousand for one of these . So it's fucking cool. You should check it out. We love Rosstuff. I hope he , you know, I hope this is a way of getting some of his art out there for fans and also milk some rich fans while you're at it, you know ? But he's doing three of these. You can go just check out the , I think you can get digital versions as well of some of these. I think I might be wrong, but I think there's different versions, some of them are like actual big prints and some of them are sort of smaller ones that he's done. Yeah, there's one here for like one hundred and forty bucks. So like it's not it's not all crazy crazy , you know, or super expensive art price. I mean, if you're, you know, this is a whole other world than we're used to, this type of art stuff, but he's doing three of these drops, it looks like. Prince Alexravaganza begins on Solstice and runs all summer in three distinct drops. So if you're eager to see some cool Alexander Rostovart, you can just go to the website and check out the pictures . Some of this stuff is super cool. One of them actually is just a picture of somebody on their birthday. Have you seen it? It's Robert Kervitz. It's like yeah . I like the one that's next to that of the guy sipping out of the hose that's attached to his fucking loins. Yes, that was spoke to me on a sort of on a troublesome level , let's say on like a sort of yeah on a substance abuse level that made me consider myself for a second . Yeah, so cool stuff. If you're interested in R ostosv ar'ch, which I know many of you are as disco fans. And check it out. It's art of rustov. com art of rustov. com which if you're reading that out, if you're reading that with your eyes does not it looks like artrchronasdaff . com looks like some sort of government website for a Estonian minister . Maybe one day. And that's about guys folks. Thanks so much hanging out everyone. We'll see you on the next one. Bye