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That's your baby girl. And then I just immediately started cooling every cost member. likeike you're still gonna like be in my life for it. Like I was really, really scared that I was like it was over. Not gonna lie Finny finally got on the beach We were very curious about whether or not she was going to like the sand because she doesn't particularly like grass between her toes And it turned out we gotten a little beach baby I' very excitited. Let's get this podcast started. Welome back to Nock going to Iye Away Virginal brought to you by Dorash. I'm your host, Kylie Kelsey. I'm five eleven and married into a similarly tall family. I'm familiar with doot cakes because I saw them on the internet. That's right They hit my for you page because I'm cool and young and hit. So I made one. A couple. made a We made it three nights in a row and they were delicious. It's like crunchy cake. It's actually very tasty. I don't know that I would wait in lines for them for that long but they were delicious. And I'm still recovering from a very recent crashout. I am very particular about the kitchen and food preparation and in particular dishes, I love my dishwasher and I love running it on sanitized. That's my favorite setting. I love heavy duty and I love sanitized. It makes my heart happy. I like to blast basically power wash my dishes. and then heat them to a temperature that is going to annihilate anything that could possibly be on them Here's the problem Last week I got an error code on my dishwasher. The error code suggested that the heat pump was no longer functioning So I called the repair service and they very nicely came out. The very nice gentleman said, I'm going to have to pull out your dishwasher. I'm going to have to flip it over to access the heat pump. thenen I'm going to replace it then you should be good to go. Wrong. What happened then A waterfall of dog food was being stored inside of the dishwasher. and to make room for their storage of dog food They decided to chew every wire they could find. Who's they? you might ask Those I was going to go so hard on curse worords The rodent. AKA, the meemo is what I call them to make them less threatening to me. My kids know them as mees. They're mice. Needless to say, I was on the phone with Queen Emma while I was angerly bleaching the entire kitchen flor Because there was mouse droppings I don't want Hnt to virus. other people or the authentic way through rodent Fces. in your kitchen I hate Mice Just little naked tails This is not a matter of cleanliness. I want to be clear on that There's going be so many people with opinions on this. They am nice in their house. You probably do too. The fuck No, you can't keep them out. We're going to figure this out might Maybe end up in a situation where there is a feline resident Now that we went on that ride H I'm still I still am crashing out. I I It's it was bad It is bad Oh, it's so bad. Oh, thinking about is making my skin crawl. Okay, let's get into today's episode. Coming up, I'm gonna talk about the most ridiculous blowout situations I've been in with my children. How to be the best aunt or uncle ever. And after that, I'm going to be joined by someone I have no business speaking to actress Millie Bobby Brown We're going to talk about all things motherhood, stranger thingsings, and the importance of telling people to fuck off. Also, Annola Holmes three. Excited But before we get to that, we gott to get to the most fiery, most no bullshit, real one Cment of the week we've ever had brought to you by Peloton. That's right, real ones. We had a couple questions for you last week and you answered. It was a clear hell yes to a monthly adoptable Animals segment which I'm very excited about And the most emphatic hell no I've ever seen in my life to Love Island There are over six hundred comments on YouTube and roughly eighty seven percent of them is some version of Fuck no, do not watchatch Love Island Absolutely not on Love Island Please I beg you, no loveve Island. I I love you guys so much I love you guys. I think you're amazing. I think that this this is women supporting women. and I I'm so happy to finally pull out a win it comes to our fan questions me against Queen Emm Thank you guys for this. This is the one that really mattered. Queen Emma wants me to defend Love Island a little bit because people are being harsh But I need to remind you guys that I have built My TikTok algorithm brick by brick I got The clip of the two individuals saying go birds to each other Beautiful Okay. And then I got multiple people saying Hey, I'm going to have to sit my millennial ass out on this season. I'm not doing it much to a Queen Em's dismay Youourre losost, you know? It's not my it's your It's cle it's literally your los. It my loss. It is literally my loss. Los A your loss. I'm not used to losing these polls How's it feel? Oh great. Not great. I am so glad. I thought I would win. I knew it was going to be close especially because of the way you set it up Yeah, being that you want them to befend you, but Once again, I just want to reiterate You lost. fifty two percent of Real Oes said No, we are not watching Love Violland I love that I will say Re one JJ Rude thirteen did have an interesting idea. You should make Jason Watch Love Island with you. I'm gonna tell you right now. There's no chance in hell I have met so many people that have told me that they watched Love Island. and that their significant other actually got more into it than they were or that they were locked in and waiting for the new episodes and they were invested It wouldn't be my husband. I'm telling you right now It would not be my husband. If you truly want him to watch Love Island, I'm going need you to go over to the other podcast. and comment that shit on there Because I'm not conveying that message. What if you both watch it the next time he's on I'm not gonna lie Absolutely not. He watched Twilight. Are you watching this season yet? Emma People are talking some mad shit. Yeah Mag shit Maybe I'll agree with them, but hey If you want Jason and Kylie to watch Love Island, you let us know right in the comments I sure you'll Yeah. Let us know in the comments that I don't I will convince them. That don'll get me. That's what's going to be the what that's what's going to be that's that's going to do it Absolutely what's going to do it Um Al right, that's it for loveove Highlandoo Like legitimately that's it for Love Island. And real one comments of the weeek, brought to you by Peloton. Next, it's Dreom Scroll of the Week, brought to you Aura Ring, the world's smallest smart Ring is here Guys Look at her This is my war ring This is the old or ring. You can see It's a little beat up because I was not nice to her. Look at the difference on that L at me I'm an infuencer She is I mean, Noise Very excited about this All right, first up on Doom Scroll, a literal shit storm is about to strike for this mom's tiny human We're all on the edge of our seats. M Eemma, This says, My baby hasn't pooped in days, so I dressed him in white and took him in public with no extra outfit how Now. She's doing all of the right things, okay? She is Tempting fate not only through the white outfit or through going out without any additional outfits. alsoso putting them in a carrier. Okay My girls for some reason loved to capitalize on an opportunity where there was no room for it to go Okay saaucer sea. choice Baby be yourn little bouncer. everyvery Single time I feel like it was the baby equivalent to a squatty potty. Don't worry This mom She's a kind and loving soul because She gave us an update And it's good. Queen Emma the clip. You can see where we're at right now The blowout was of a diabolical nature. What seemed to do the trick was putting him in my favorite sleeper, Bamboo from Wildbird. And it was white. S I'm in his bouncer and drink some coffee. haaving my coffee. I told my four year old bouner. Why don't we go to Barnes Noobles today? Well let's get a coffee, let's walk around a little bit. And while I was making those plans, my three month old heard me and said, you know what? It sounds better. Why don't I just shit everywhere really quick? and then we can go to Barnes Noobless Perfect I'm telling you Every time the baby ends up with something firmly against their butt. That's the key. I don't know about your babies But mine when the feelings struck them Deven Enhusiastic push Guys, we're talking The very least, up the back. Okay If you're lucky, both sides. Like the pasta attachments for Play Doough You're welcome This is repulsive. We're going to have to bleep all of this out. God's feed to that mother and to everyone else who is waiting on a poop because that's when you know it's going to be bad. When you're waiting on it, when you're like, we haven't been there in a few days And last scroll from one sleep deprived mother to all the others out there or those who have been there before Does it get better? You know what's els b'm right about now She's tearing hours of uninterrupted sleep I feel this's an isle I say lip Any chance I get to talk to a new mom. that I think Sleep deprivation is one of the worst forms of torture I still remember when Wyatt wasn't sleeping and I would have almost like hallucinating during the day or completely forgetting things or it was crazy And You just want to sleep and your body and your brain need sleep. And yet you're still running on autopilot because tiny humans. Finn, our youngest is fourteen months. Almost fifteen months. She is doing a much better She was never a terrible sleeper. She's doing a great job I didn't say that universe. I didn't say shit I actually I didn't say a thing Let's ignore where I was headed and let's figure out how I'm sleeping. You know how I can find out is my or ring out I love this because it not only tells you about your sleep, it also tells you about your activity. it tells you about your readiness. I have mine sync to my Natural Cycles app, which is in conjunction with your Aura Ring readings. I found my Oura Ring to be incredibly helpful when I had Little babies becausecause sometimes Like we were just talking about with a little bit of like amnesia and hallucinating. you forget when you woke up for feeds or how long you were up. Let's see if I can do influencer things. Let's see I can see when I was awake U Six hours and twenty two minutes. I was out of bedit for am for a little while. There was a dream situation I had to deal with We had to talk about it out loud so that it can't come back. Everybody knows that. We are a house that believes in sleep training, but we I just want to make sure that my kids sleep in their own beds because I think that that bodes well for everyone's sleep So Yeah, I we tried our best to sleep train. and for the most part, I think it works I will say, I do think it's very funny that at any given point, if your kid who was previously sleeping is not sleeping and you Google it suddenly sleep reggression Were in as sleep for Rush Oh, how old are they? My kids not sleeping. How old are they nine months sleep reggression fifteen months sleep reggression. eighteen months sleep progression Are they learning something new? Yeah, they're a frickaking baby, sleep reggression What They have a sleep regression every time they learn a new skill. you're kidding You're joking me No wonder we're always in a sleep reggression. What the heck? Well, that does it for Doom Scrol of the Week brought to you by Aura Ring Moving on, there were so many questions from the real ones last week. We still have some bangers left. So let's get into a brand new edition. Ask me some things brought to you by Doorash. Because askk me anythingthing needed boundaries. First up from Rachel Fox, how can I be the best aunt ever to my niece Don't have kids of my own. I don't know what to do. Oh, I know be present and let them get away with shit that their parents will not in a safe way. And u That about suumms it up? You are allowed, you have aunt uncle, grandparent privilege, that's what I call it. You are allowed to spoil them to some degree So u Definitely just Be present. Love on them And you can you can spoil them a little bit because that's your right as cool aunt. alsoso takeake her off of your sister's hands Is it your sister? your takeake take take the child. places Next question from Re O Danielle. After pushing out babies, do you pee a little when you run And how do you stop that? So I feel privileged that I did not experience this. I would pe a little Every time I stood up out of the car when I was pregnant with Bennet literally every when I hit six months on I peed a little Every single time I stood up out of the car There's that. Um But I don't have an issue after pregnancies One of the things that I would recommend being a completely minimally informed non medical opinion I think that means that you should do some focus on repairing your pelvic floor. From Killyian Would Jason consider a large indoor cat like a Maine Coon? I love Maine Coons. I think they're beautiful. I think they're amazing. I love the little tuffs on the tops of their ears. They're incredible. I think they're a very dog like cat I also think a ragdoll is a very dog like cat because they're just fucking along for the ride So The problem with both of those breeds is that we got long hair I don't think Jason's going to go for that I willed to take a whack at it. And last one, Dream guest deead or alive. O Where do I start? Let me start with Pink. She did an outstanding job hosting the Tonys and whenever she wants to come on a podcast We will take her Please and thank you I don't even know Guys Rihanna, Beyonce, Dolly Parton Quinta Brunson because Philadelphia guysys, I got I kn own all of it Okay. I'll take justust Come through guys come through Okay, And you tell us what we talk about I'll talk about anything you want We could do it in person. I'll go somewhere Not terribly far I'll go somewhere. Okaykay, that's it. And that does it for As M me some things brought to you by doorash Coming up, I'm about to be joined by Millie Bobby Brown right after these messages. Being a person is tough enough these days, let alone being a parent. That's why I use doorash. becausecause when life gets crazy, doordash helps bring some order to it. likeike this past week, when I needed to prove a point, so I doorashed ice cream for everyone. but two of my children. I was trying to prove a point there are consequences. And so when multiple people wanted ice cream, I ordered it for the ones their listening ears on. So DoorDash came in clutch with that one. Real life needs real relief. That's why DoorDash is there for whatever you need whenever you need it. Life with kids is wildly unpredictable. No matter how much parents try to plan, there's always going to be chaos. Being able to offload a few to do's and give a little more time to focus on yourself And your family is huge. We all know life gets crazy Doordash just helps bring a little order to it. Order now. As a slightly disorganized type who are we kidding? 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It helps me with tangible outcomes, better sleep, enhanced recovery, and greater stress resilience. Plus, it has up to one week of battery life. chararge once a week and never miss a night of data That That is the most important part because I can remember. and it's available in six finishes. This is my gold. Look at her She cute. Learn more about the world's smallest smart Ring and discover how Aura can help you better understand your health at auraring. com This is my this is my all time Favorite. podcast ever. Like I'm bling. I'm not saying that like watch every episode. I love it. So this is really like I specifically was like, I need like if she will have me, I would love to go. Millie, this is not waterproof mascara. stop. It's funny likeike my husband will be like No you've already watched that episode. I'm like, I know Stop it right now. Yeah. I'm a huge I'm a huge Thank you. than you. Also, your babies Oh my go, when they come on I can No, they are they are so delicious They love to assert themselves into any situation. That was me. That was me and that's not child actor, so. I mean, our oldest recently had to do something for school where it was like dress up as your future self and she was like a rock star. And I was like, okay But we could pick like a nurse or an artist because mostly because I had those things in the house as dress up items. and was a little more straightforward. And she was like, Nope, a rock star. And then she dug her feet in and then she was a rock star. She wore a My father in law would be proud You would be proud. I love that. Yeah, no, you have to like that was me. I wanted to be Hannah Montana. My parents had to break the news that that wasn't an actual job, but which I was really missed about. but then I found my own Hannah Montana wayay There Perfect. Okay, I'm going intro you and we're gonna to get right into it Let's see if I can read this morning. She's the Emmy nominated and SAG Aard winning actress. you know from her hit show, Stranger Things and her incredible mystery movie series Enola Holmes, and we're all about to get to see the newest one because Enola Holmes three comes out july first right on Netflix. She's also a fellow mom, animal lover, and now she's officially not gonna lie. It's Millie Bobby Brown Welcome to the show so. chs this is. I'm so excited. We have so much to talk about. We' going to do First of all I have to tell you because Stranger things Fucking perfection, insanity. L right like so good My every single time I think of it though, all I can think of is My six year old, now six year old, but when this happened, she was not six years old She maybe she was My husband late at night watching Stanger Things in the living room. And the next day Our six year old comes downstairs and she's like, I had a bad dream Oh no, I'm like, did you really I was sitting on the steps watching the show I said, what do you mean? She was like I was watching the show Dad was watching. was What show was Dad watching? She said, somethingomet scary And I had to then text my husband be like, what were you watching last night? And he was like, stranger things. And I was like, oh, well, so was Wyatt And he was like, I had no idea she was on the steps behind me. I scared M Horristing It might take her a couple years. Yeah We're going to have to we're going to have to come back around on that one But now every single time I think of stranger thingsings, I think of the mental image of her just sitting at the top of the steps like Baby That is that I mean, yeah, that is that is really tough. I I wonder what Recently Or like a long time ago. No, no, no, not that not that long ago. Oh, okay, so it must have been like the last season, which I think so I quite scary She she caught a good one. I to be fair, she's not She doesn't like anything that's even like on the cusp of scary So I love that. But it just cracked me up that like she did not say anything to my husband, who was sitting. I mean, we live in a split level. She's like seven steps away from him, directly behind him. I didt say work for her. She' I mean she went back to bed, which is kind of amazing. I could never have done that as a child. I was really like really I still am very codependent with my parents and like have serious pona pets. so I would be like I'd have to make myself known She did it And she told me the story the babies. Are they like are they are they able to tolerate that like any of them? O third would Our third would be like, I'm a hop in there. Well, speaking of my little muffins, I want to officially congratulate you on your little muffin. Thank you How are you finding motherhood so far I love it. L and I think for everybody was like, o my God, a twenty one year old mum and oh my gosh, how could she? Well I'm having the most amazing time it's literally my husband and I say it all the time it's like going from black and white to color. like it's just everything feels complete and perfect in every way and don't get me wrong. it's full of, you know, moments of like, oh what what do you do in this situation? or you know But it's the most amazing thing ever. and I think raising J it's a huge responsibility and ra raising a daughter specifically. I know people were like, what about raising a son? It's like, no, every child is having like every child is a responsibility. However, I do think raising a daughter coming from my experience of being in a really having a really public childhood and get criticised as a girl and as a woman so frequently, I just take it very seriously to raise a girl that can be proud of who they are and be confident and embrace. justust coming from my experience specifically, I think it was like really kind of my goal to provide a world where she feels really safe and loved and nurtured and embraced. That's what my parents did to me. So I think thats that's just, you know, and that's why I the way I am because I was always just encouraged to speak my mind and be myself. so my daughter the other day, she's really into like just for no reason. Yeah. And I do it bad And then we start kind of having a little bit of a debate And I love it. And Jake is like, I love this because you know, you're fullying her. I'm not shhing her fully embracing the fact that she's She's telling me something in a really passionate way. I don't know what she's saying, but I really hope it's kind of life changing Now, you mentioned that you have these moments of like, what do I do? Yeah I want to be abundantly clear. Ites doesn't matter how old you are That's one of my biggest realizations of motherhood is that Nobody knows what the fuck doing Nobody knows we're all winging it. and you're figuring it out Y baby you and they're like They can smell fear. Do you know where to go And it's like, she's taking me off a thousand percent. She's calling you on she's calling you on the car, but she's like, Yeah you seem like You don't know. You seem like you've never seen a poop this screen before. What are you talking about And that leads me right to my next question. How many things have you Googled So I But do you h back I do. I do. I'm so proud of you. Thank you. My husband says, Mill, don't be a Google warrior. and I'm like, you're right, you're right And it takes everything in me to be like taking a picture and like it and be does this look good Don't you? And then I've realized After about six months I would say a good six months. you're like Anything with a baby, it's It's anything is a free for. It's, you know, that color like you know, of poop or that weird like twitch that she does is just because something's spicy. you know you kind of are like, I'm starting to understand that like anything goes. they're all different. And you can't Google something and hope that you're going to get the answer. You're not. like every baby is different And I think the key in that is use mums as your Google. Like if you have mum friends J Oh yeah it to them because they'll be like, oh my go, like they did that. That happened to me. That happened or actually something even weirder happened and you're like, what the fuck? Like I've never heard of that before. So it really does help just talking to other mums. I'm not, I wasn't huge on that in the beginning because I was like, I don't want to compare. because I'm getting get stressed like if she's not doing something, but actually it was it's the best thing for me. And I love going to my music classes and like king to the other momums about everything That, I'm so proud of you for not searching it because do you still do that? Surely not Eurota. thousand percent The number of times I have Googled, now granted, I have studied these charts. I'm not kidding. studied these charts the number of times I've searched them I have searched poop charts so many Fing times. I'm not I'm not this is not, I'm not trying to be funny. I truly have searched Yes to see the color and the texture and to find out if it's normal or to find out what's going on. Yeah And finally on the fourth one, like we've had we've had a kind of crummy stretch here with diy rash Okay, but I know now I can't wait for me to say this on the podcast and the medical experts to get in the comments. like you sound like an idiot.. You know what? I'm gonna need you you guys to think what would be helpful. And you saying I'm an idiot.s not help. It't help. Yeah. No When they're teething Yeah And they have like so much excess saliva. Sometimes that can cause a little diy rash That's true Andaria. Yes, tehing Everyive on the planet. It's firstible trash. Yeah, one hundred percent. But like if she's doing something even remotely weird, they're like, that's probably teething. I'm like what? But I have searched poop charts. Repeatedly. Yeah. It's really all about problem solving. But The problem solving right now is like Okay, I know you really want to do that, but we can't. So let's problem solve. Let's figure out another solution for you to be happy or problem solving in Carly you have a stomach What has triggered that? Now we need now we need to open an investigation. Streangs are coming out and Enola Holmes is coming in and I'm just like I'm feeling very passionate about figuring out what the fuckking You've been training for this what you say Aolutely, absolutely. You know, the one thing I will say my My husband and I were talking about phones and like when he got his first phone, I got my first iPad eight years old, which I think it' insane. IiPad one, the iPad one And I was saying, my gosh, what happens when like our daughter kind of What age is that? you know, and what does that look like in fifteen years. I don't know. And I heard your take on the kitchen pham and I loved it. I was like stealing that, that's my. That's happen. one hundred percent You know, there's a, you know, as with everything, there's internet trolls that are like, good luck. I can't wait until she's twelve and everybody on her class has a phone. And I'm like, guys, I don't think you understand. I came from the house where my mom regularly said to me, Well, I'm not So and so's mom I'm not your friend. I'm not here to be your friend. I'm here to be your parent. That's the that's the house I was raised in. Yeah 've been training for this shit. Yeah, exactly. Siod. I don't by the way, I don't care that Emily has a phone.t I actually don't care. Like it's not happening for you. So you better get over it because you've been shobbing the whole summer if that's like I'm the kind of I'm one hundred percent going to be and have been the daughter that has been like on the receiving end of like it's not happening. So you might as well come to terms with it and And I feel it's being a And also you now, like on the receiving end of comes with having a phone, it's actually I'm protecting you from the exhaustion receiving messages and calls and emails and awful bullying and hate. It's no truly, it's the worst thing I carry around with me all day long. It's terrible's awful If I could go back to my LG flip phone, I would I had an LG flip phone. because they were the best. Recently No the fun Yeah, Kylie, this is. You had it for like actual logistics. I was like This is so nostalgic for everyone. Let me hook it over my pocket fun. I'll have this and so yeah, it took me ages to text people on it. so I was like, I can't do this anymore There's nothing more satisfying than hanging up a phone call by shutving a phone. Oh my gosh, divine. By the way, when my when my daughter and I we pretend to go on the phone, I'll be like No Not today And my husband goes, Wh Why do you answer the phone and you're playing with her, but you're immediately angry. And I was like Clearly, that's how I feel every time someone calls me. It's like Not happening, not today. And so I'm teaching her to basically say, no, no, no, we're not doing that. And he's like so now I have to be like, Hello. How are you? Oh but I'm making up a scene in my head. that's just not realistic. And so I've really had to catch myself because I've learned that I ans'wer the phone and I just immediately start barating Well, it's nice that it's nice that you came to that realization because I only came to the realization that I'm having very serious phone calls. when our third was in the corner playing by herself. No, I cannot today I am not doing that Today Yeah. I'm like She's Who are you talking to? Yeah Her agent She's negotiating a deal and it's It was to be amanding. Yeah. It was out. She was firm She held her boundaries. And she did it with her whole chest and I'm here for it I said that ask my kid. I' think it's the cutest thing when it's ble. I'm not interrupting Absolutely not. Enjoy your playtime Right Now, we've talked about the journey to motherhood in so many ways on the show But something we have not touched on a lot and I think it's so important to highlight is adoption if you're open to talking about it. Yeah. You and your husband announced that you adopted your little girl. Did you always see adoption as part of your journey to motherhood one hundred percent. always always wanted to always wanted to adopt was always part of like my My childhood dreams every time I U was at home and I was, you know, five, six years old. my parents were like You had your baby dolls, they were all adopted I never had any of them my I never pretended I was preregnant. It's not because I don't want that. I, you know, I Hopefully one day that's in my future. But for me adoption was always a part of my future. Adoption is love, adoption is forever and like there's so many things that I have learned before I took so many courses like so many courses in adoption, what it looks like on every other end of the spectrum on being Okay You know a social worker, I went to school to be a social worker for two years and then I switched to being a vet because I love animals. But truly I like loved The aspect of adoption in my social workforce is were like was everything and so so meaningful and important And then I also learnnted what it, you know, speaking to and reading a lot about being a birth mother and what that journey is. So for me, my husband and I took a lot of time to focus on what that story and what that journey looks like and then we embarked it. So I think that it's multifaceted, but yes, it was always part of my journey Now for anyone listening who's considering adoption as part of their family's future, is there anything that you'd want to share with them Every journey looks different. U You know, you wait you're wa waiting for the call is the hardest part and I always just say like you're I love meeting other adoptive parents. like it's my favorite because I just feel like with one. and And it's just a really different experience However, I just would always just encourage you to understand every journey is different. Don't compare yourself to other. Don't compare yourself to like statistics and don't compare yourself to other families. And like your baby's out there and you'll find each other. And ye, I'm a big believer in that. And I, you know, that's something that I pray for every night and and you know, I was just very veryery grateful that our journey and our baby was out there and we found each other Now did you know that phone call was coming Like, do you you don't have any anticipation. It is really just a cold call Your baby is waiting for you It's a it's a yeah, it's a conversation and it's just really like For me I think it's very important to just always know like to trust your gut Like for me, my gut was like That's it That's my that's my that's my go. likeike And I think yeah, I think that it's just it's a very, very It's just welcoming any You know, any baby into your life My maternal instincts just kicked in. I'm in on and my maternal instincts like kicked in. I was like, this baby is like part like I will protect this baby with all at all costs So being a mother, my maternal instincts like meeeting her was just like This is this is everything That's your baby girl Yeah. 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Yeah Has she been able to see you in action on the set? So I filmed a romance movie and she was on set. And it was really funny because she would like monitor and no it was me. She no knew it was me And I just literally would like walk off of a tape, grab her you know, walk up over tpe, grab her again take her outside, go for walks, any ten minutes I had with her, I was with her constantly. I did not miss a feed. like I based my whole day around every single feed for her. and my husband the same. So we were and he was producing the film. so for us like we just tagged him constantly. and then and And then the other day I popped her in like her little stationary, you know, walker thing and I was like, I wonder what I like I wonder what she'd do if I just put like Enola Homes on. So I put it on And she was like, she'd really not interested in screens. L she doesn't care. Like she doesn't grip to a screen the way I think most children do and I think it's great, but it's also like You don't love my work. but anyway, so I like put the film on and she was like and then she just like, she heard my voice and she just like It was my voice. L I think Mummy looks different sometimes, but like my voice like st she was like, that's her voice. And I think Enola really sounds like me. so it was she was like, Ohh, that's mum And she couldn't take her eyes off the screen in. but she did when every other actor went on the screen, was she lost f. She was like, this is boring. And I was like, I'm not here for you. I know. And I was like, this is like HenryCabill I do think yeah. I like, no, I can't. No. But I do think yeah, I think it's it's a pretty u It's a pretty amazing thing to be able to I look back on my childhood and everything was filmed. I think that's kind of an amazing thing to be able to say, I've just would I can't believe that I'm able to show her what I was like when I was ten years old. L I was in NCIS when I was eight years old. I think it's hilarious to be able to be like That was me and to be able to reflect on that. There are so many things, even my husband's like, you were in that. And I'm like, Yeahah, and then we watch it back and I'm just like, I can't believe that I was so young and like you've got a six year old. I mean I started when I was eight, but just to think like she could, you know, that's possible is kind of it's kind of amazing. And I think to be able to have that for her to look at should she even be interested, which I, you know, it's totally welcoming her not to be, but But that is so beautiful that you basically have a time capsule of You that is that she will get to have forever Yeah, I think it's so myself, like I really can't believe I get to just like do that. And some and by the way the things I want to die. Some of the things like some of the interviews I've done, I'm like, okay, who needed to like rein her in? Like Milly, shut up And that also haunts me. So it's a really good intake. The digital footprint is really, you know, I was a flat earer at like twelve and I'm like, getet off a live stream. B it was like, what are we doing Oh my go. So yeah, I had a phone and that was the problem with me is that I definitely had a phone. It sucks that like literally the whole world got to see it. By the end of the day I have really really thick skin and I just I don't I really have never cared. Like a lot of people have a lot to say about Oh, you got married to young. you had a baby too young. U, you know, you did this, you did that. Why are you wearing that? Why do you look like that?? I'm at a point where like I don't care about myself I don't care what you say about me. I'm very used to it. It's like growing up in like you know, with that, you just it's second nature to you. However, I do have a problem about it happening to other young girls. So that's where I really I really just I'm very lucky I have a greater support system and a healthier mindset about it, but I'm very aware that Others might not, and that's where things have taken a turn for child actors. and so if I can like if I can have anything to do with it I will always call people out on their bullshit It's funny because I feel very strongly the same way. I really it Just don't care what you say about me. because at the end of the day, I know me. You true. people who are making the comments probably don't And but I do get feel like viciously protective other people And like when people just want to be outright mean to others, I'm like, No, you can't do that. Like I'd rather you say it about me than say it about them one hundred percent as' wear it proudly At the end of the day, I probably don't even have enough time to read your bullshit. No Literally And also like all of these people, like what I I was like, oh my God, these are all men like saying all of these horrible things. And then one day I figured out you the ment Yeah And I was like, this is vicious. likeike you are vicious and I don't have time So angry women that just need to feel like they need to bring you down, especially when it comes to motherhood. I've never experienced anything like this. It's like, you know, I could always deal with like, o my god, you showed your nipples, like what a bitch. like and I'm like, whatever. Like I don't care about that. when you're like You didn't put a on your baby and it was in and I'm like Try putting a hat on my baby. Come on, come on, I d you. putut a beanie on h. putut a beanie on her. She's literally like bubum like just stay in your own lane, put a hat on your baby and put a sock in your mouth The English is coming out at me. But it's so true. I'm just like, shut up I have said a number of times that within motherhood, and here's where people get very confused. when I've talked about it previously is that I feel very strongly that one of the worst things is when people give unsolicited advice And I'm not talking about the people who give advice that you've asked for or Helpful advice. I'm talking about the people who look at you and in a very judgmental way. say to you, Mm, That baby should have socks Yeah And I'm like, hey, I've actually I came here with four pairs of socks in my pocket And she had got two socks on her feet And we now have one sock. Tam W you do that with five stars Carles. Five sets of socks. That's ten socks Cheryl and now I have one sock. You tell me how a baby that has two feet Yeah is going to wear one sock. And somehow know it's on our hand I completely agree with you I When people are like when they offer, And I I really feel like I've dealt with it mostly online, but when I do experience it in person, a lot of people will say things like, you know, they'll they'll be like, Yeah Oh Sheee, that's a really big piece. You're gonna let her eat that? And I'm like, I know what my baby Kenny and what she can't. You know, like I will draw the line where I feel is necessary. and And I think it's very important and what my in laws and my parents tught me is just like they don't offer me advice. They're very much like They just let me live. They're really good about that. And they just are like But then they'll say like, oh my God, I love the way you do that. and I'm like Okay, like I get that I need validation. It's helpful to hear that I did something good, but They're very much like We hated that we're not going to then be the parents to do that. So I'm really happy it like traveled That's so nice that that's your network that that's who's closest to you is that you're experiencing that Be I know that that's not the case for everybody. No I luckily am in the same situation where my parents and my in laws are very good about like you guys are the parents, you guys choose how things go. Yeah. And but it is it is crazy to hear the stories of people who when you think when I think about the like horror stories of people sharing unnecessary advice thats I think about it as strangers and some people are getting it in house. Now, I do want to circle back to your new movie Really quick because I do It comes out on july first. And so we got we have a little bit of time here And so I just was wondering if you can give away any spoilers. And if you do, we'll just bleep them What are you most excited for fans to see in Enola Homes three Okay, we're going to bleep it out We'll ble it. everything. Okay. I'm most excited for fans to see I'm really excited about that Really excited about some of the new actors on the film and everybody kind of enjoying their characters And also we filmed in Malta and I feel like it's a really have you ever been to Malta No Well, it is a very small island, like the tiniest, tiniest min island, except it has the most amazing culture and it's very vibrant and it has like, you know We lived there for basically twow months And it was just like an amazing experience. You go out, you could go and get Italian food, but then there's a lot of Arabic influence, you know, there's a lot of French influence. It's like kind of amazing. It's like it feels like a culmination of a lot of like Africa and Europe and and it's really a cool place and the accent is very like very specific and niche and It's a really colorful place. So I really I really enjoyed that and I really am excited for people to be like take like take us out of London for a moment and go to another place. I can't wait for the real ones to watch this. Yeah U it just feels I mean, I won't I won't touch on your spoiler because we're going We're going to bleep it, but then you can bleep me too. that feels so I love that. Yeah Yeah, I think it's good because becausecause you you, you know peopleeople are very confused by the fact that me, Millie, I'm really you know, I encourage all young women and young girls to find their thing, fight for what they believe in, stand up you know on their own two feet and do it on their own. And yet I will also encourage you to ask for help to love others to love deeply and Find your person and if that person is your best friend, your aunt, your grandmother, my person was my nan, like she was my everything. and to find your other person which Jake and I started in like a in a in a friendship, but but then it you know grew. And I feel like in a lot of ways the story kind of runs parallel through my life. I was feeling like I really wanted to be independent on my own and really do my own thing And it didn't mean that I didn't have to do that, you know without my best friend Now, I do want to ask you some more about Stanger Things. The final season came out at the end of the year. How are you feeling now several months later? feeling really Um, so I Oh my gosh, I don't know if I've done an interview since then because I'm like, have I even spoken about it? I basically for most of January. I had a bit I had a bit of a just a lull in who I was. Like it It feels like grieving. Yeah. And I think what was hard is that I knew. was happening. I knew the end And I couldn't tell anyone And I wore black the whole press tourp because of theer all of her. and Yet I am I didn't feel it as much until everyone else found out And then feeling everyone else's grief made me like, like it was too much. And then I just immediately started calling every cost member, like justust like We're like you're still going to like in my life right? Like I was really, really scared that I was like it was over. And I just kept crying. I kept crying. That is like I had layers of grief. Yeah. And then I finally felt like I came out of it to the end of January, I was like I had to, you know, I had to because I reownloaded Instagram because I really wanted to see what saying about Bee and like her story and and then I had to delete it because it was making me too sad. And so I think toward the end of January, I I had to stop talking about it like in my random conversations because it made me too emotional And also now all I ever get is you I used to get, o, or you even? from stranger thingsings and now I get I believe I get people saying that they believe she's still alive. So it's a really beautiful, which also just evokes a lot of emotion for me. What you guys created with Stranger Things was incredible. I mean, you don't need me to tell you this. I'm pretty sure everybody tells you this, but what you guys created is incredible. And the great thing about it is is that even though The show is Hida And then again, a neat little bow Um which is, I mean, I would say it's Well, maybe it's not tied up in a need little bill. because you still get that wonder of what is Yeah. But You guys created something that is so incredible that evoked so many emotions out of people that had people like on the edge of their seat waiting for the episodes to drop. likeike you guys did that and it went all the way through which I think is such an incredible accomplishment, I think so many times you've seen a show that's sort of like gets a big fan following and then sort of like it draws out so long that people are like, well, I didn't watch that last season or I didn't watch this. People were on the edge of their seat until the minute you guys finished. And that's so impressive. Yeah, I mean the fans, it's crazy to think that the fans stayed for that long and we were so dedicated despite the years that we're sometimes in between the seasons. but I truly, I mean, I can't like I comp I think that again, it's just it's the cost like we together Everybody individually had such an important role to play and Yeah, I almost all the time meet. people that are like I loved this character because they made me feel brave and and now I want to be this and now I want to be this. And I think it's really cool. And then I majority of the time yet young, young girls Um and I'm talking, you know sometimes six, seven years old And I truly was like they come up to me and they'll say, Can I be a superhero like you? And I'm like ' like what you see me as as opped, you know, and then I'm like it's kind of amazing because for me like there's such a like I'm such a like My character is so layered and it's so complex. And is she really is a superhero And and they're just that's all I see. And I think it's really cool to be able to be that for some, you know young girl that you know is watching it probably because she's not meant to be and she's on the stairs like Wyatt, But its that's what she sees and that's cool But that's so it's really cool to think that and I don't know if you feel this way, but Having young girls when I get to see like even just They're like my nieces when they interact with them who are like teenage girls the different women in their life who interact with my daughters who they see and idolize and see what they do and how they impact their lives. like that's so exciting for me. Yeah. And you get to do that on like this very high level, does having a daughter of your own almost drive that home even more of like I know that you've always been like a woman supporting women and making sure that like we're uplifting other women, which I cannot get behind enough. Yeah. but it Do does that like Do you feel the weight of that that you are influencing young women in a way that I would personally love to have someone being a role model for my kids. Yeah I think I always felt it, like I felt the responsibility of that Sometimes it was great, sometometimes it was really overwhelming because I was like, I feel like I can't make a mistake However now having a daughter. I'm like every child I meet, I see her in them I cannot thank you enough for coming on. This has been an absolute pleasure, an honor I know we just talked about it, but I do have to say, you are an incredible example of women supporting women of motherhood. I hope you fucking put your noise canceling headphones on and black out all the haters because that thick skin is doing well for you and you shouldn't listen to any of the hate because you are incredible I'm so, so happy for you and your husband and your little baby girl

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