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From Second Drink: Prince Family PaperJun 8, 2026

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Wlcome to your second drink of Prince Family Paper Angela, you started this podcast breakdown, like our original breakdown with a great I did. Yes. What did I say? Okay, it was about a magazine that had put you in a side by side of who wore it best. That's so tacky I know We discussed. Well, in honor of that gripe, I'd like to start this second drink with a similar gripe. Were you in a side by side? No. I wasn't in a side by side. Okay But People Magazine did me dirty, lady I'm calling them out, they did me dirty. What they do? Okay I get a text from my brother in law, He sends me a photo He had bought a peopleeople magazine because he was getting on a flight Okay. And he was all excited because he was like Chenna I'm on a flight and I open my people magazine and here you are That's fun You think it would be fun But People magazine did me dirty What the hell did they do? Okay They took a quote I said back in Think like twenty eighteen, like a while ago. Yeah. an old quote that they're recycling. Okay, slow Newsdayay. we're digging back into twenty eighteen. So it says, With younger generations binge watching two thousands hit the office on Netflix on Netflix A fifty two year old is thrilled to be reaching new audiences Not so thrilling when she's shopping at Target and is approached by a teen quote They'll say You know what Does anyone like tell you that you look like an older version of that girl from the office When Jenna explains that she actually did play Pam Beasley on the show, quote, Sometimes they don't even believe me, she told Conan O'Brien Oh my God, this is from so long ago. I know This is back when Conan O'Brien had a talk show Good good night And then I say, they're like, no, but you do look like her. So I remember telling this funny story. That doesn't do me dirty. That's fine. That's a funny story that I told. Sure, People magazine, you want to recycle. A snippet from an interview from twenty eighteen, fine. Well let fine, fine I let it slide. But here's what they did, lady They found Unflattering, low angle photo of me Why did they do that? Why? And then and then here's the other thing. I know this photo. This is from before I was wearing glasses I was like, wait, ir older photo at like a very unsflattering angle and I think They put a filter on this photo to make me look worse Come on Lady Do you have the original? Do you have a side by side of your original and their mockup? You know, I do, lady because you know I love a side by side and I am a mom detective And look at the difference This is the original photo. This is the did Me Dirty They put a filter on it to create all these shadows and deep lines on my face. What's that about no Do you have like an ex boyfriend at Pople Max? I don't know. I don't know Like I'm sorry That's messed up Mmhm Well, It's always crazy to me too, how they it seems like they pick the most unflattering picture of you out there It's like You know there's better pictures. Why are you picking that one? Like what is that snarkiness about? And you know what else? What every single time. there's anything about me and Josh, they always Pint my age We get it. I'm six years older than him. We get it Well, here's something that I remember is that when I've had my photo taken by the New York Times, 'ause that's happened a few times. A little bit of a flex. Okaykay. we did it, Angela, New York Times took our photo twice. They do not edit it in any way. That's the journalistic integrity. So that picture of you is exactly as it is the day they took it. There's no filter. No filter, no Photoshop. They made that very clear. Lady, I remember when they came to my house to take our picture And they told us that And we moved two of my kitchen stools out onto my front lawn in front of my hedge where I have really good light. Be they also don't bring like bounce boards and stuff. They're like, we're taking it on journalisto. We were like, okay, can we at least take it in a place with really great light? Yeah. And they said, yes So anyway, okay. well, moving on to Prince Family Paper We have discussed how this is a major cringe episode. Yeah. It's my personal number one skipet episode. I just I can't take the hot or notot debate. I can't take the Prince familyamily demise We got mail on both sides of this argument on skip it or love it. So first up from Miranda D in Australia, Miranda says, I gott to say ladies, this is a skip it for me I recently listened to your first conversation with Billy Eilish and learned it's a skippet episode for her too The actors who play the Prince Family Paper owners do such an amazing job of portraying genuinely sweet business owners, and I feel so bad every time I watch it. But that's not to say there aren't some great scenes in this episode such as the Cold Open, which is one of my favorite gym pranks Well, You know, Miranda, thank you for writing in. I know there's a lot to be discussed here, but I still get excited when you say Billy Eilish's first conversation ' that there was a second Sorry. I know that's not the point of this conversation. Okay, moving on. We also got a letter from Layton R in California. Layton, you've written us many times. Thank you so much Leayton said, I rank this episode high on the list. My favorite scene was when Michael hits his car against the curb Prince's family comes outside and helps him. And here's what really stands out It's how nice their family tends to be despite Michael and Dwight's surveillance and attempts to shut them down appreciated the scene because it shows how Michael feels guilty And then he realizes how he might feel He is hurting those genuinely great people and this family that really works to keep their business open, and it just makes their situation more serious So I guess Layton really liked all the complexity there. It is a complex episode This is true And it doesn't end how you think it will, which is I mean Every time this episode comes up, I'm like, I can't believe we shut down the little family run paperplace. I know,, it's really difficult. It's really difficult Well, finally, we got this letter from Miranda Jay in Wake Forest, North Carolina, who said, I love how strongly Michael and Dwight each feel about Denny's versus IHOop I must know the opinions of the office ladies, which side are y'all on Personally, I agree with Dwight, Denny's is the OG literally beat IHop by five years. Well, lady, before we say if we're Denny's or IHop, let's listen to this argument Michael and Dwight are in the car and it starts with them going over their plans for their alter egos Okay, so let's go over the plan again. All right, I am a local business owner. I need to buy paper. I find out everything about their prices and policies. Your fictitious name? Michael Skarn. Good. I am a paper salesman looking for a new job. I find out everything about their expenses and salaries. Okay. Then we meet at the Denny's and we compare notes. No, I never said Denny's I hop. No. I said D. I know how I feel about it start I don't socialist. I don't wantan to get into this debate again. Okay. I enjoy I hop. I'll have a cup of coffee. You will have pancakes and you'll like it. So Lady, do you have strong feelings between Denny's and IHop? We do not. I love a nice big o like kind of diner breakfast. Jenna, one of my favorite things is when you and I take a trip to New York, we go to a diner and we have a big o breakfast together And I just love it. My dad loved like a big breakfast and I think it just makes me think of him. So I'm sorry to be a lamo, but I I don't care one or the other. They seem interchangeable to me. Is that is that bad Oh, well This is Michael's point. Like we can go to either one of these, but we're going where I want and you're going to like it. So what is yours You know If you forced me to pick one If you are like, you can only go to one of these two places for the rest of your life I think I would have to pick Denny's Really? Well, we have a Denny's near our house We don't have an Ii hop in your house and we go to Denny's So for a very long time, the Dennies byy our house, kids eat free on Tuesdays And they have a claw machine. And it was like it was a great place to go like go out to dinner with little kids, especially, you know? Yeah And you could have breakfast for dinner at Denny's like the kids could. They've got a chicken and waffles But they've also got a really nice, they've added Like a nice like rice and protein bowl Can you tell I eat at Denny's I was say, you are pretty firstversed in this menu. Yeah, I mean, I lived near an hop when I first moved to LA And I could walk to it. And that's back when my car used to break down all the time. Remember my car that broke down during Booze crruise? Yeah finally got a new car So there were many times where I was just like, o, my car's not running and I would walk to IiHop And I was very thankful for it. Lady, you know we lived in the same area at first. I lived by an IiHOop as well. It's the same Ii hop. We might have been there at the same time. We didn't even know it. So yeah when I first moved to LA., I went to IiHOop all the time and now I've moved kind of further away and now I'm at a Denny's. Well, you guys let us know A you Denny's our eye hop? I'm very curious And you guys, we know some of you might skip this episode when you rewatch, but we hope you won't skip our breakdown because it's really fun We have some great shers about the episode and then Sam and I Try to explain Lord of the Rings to Jenna We don't do that great of a job, but we tried Well, it was very funny for me to relisten to that now that I've seen the movie and now I know what you're talking about, and you don't do such a bad job. A. Except I say I say Suron, wrong All right, everyone, here's your second drink of Prince Family paper I name'm Jennish and I'm Anl Kinzie. We were on the office together and we're best friends. And now we're doing the ultimate Office rewatch podcast just for you. Each week, we will break down an episode of the Office and give exclusive behind the scene stories that only two people who were there can tell you. We're the office ladies. Hi Angela. Hey, Jenna. How's it going? It's going good. Are you ready to destroy a small family business today? Prince familyamily paper, The Prince family. They're the sweetest family Well, we're gonna take them down. I guess we are. So awful and cringy. Oh, there's a lot of cringe in this one. There sure is. guysuys, it's season five, episode thirteen Printince Family Paper. wrritten by BJ Novak and directed by Assad Kalada Here's your summary Oh. David Wallace calls Michael Scott on the phone. It's so funny to me. I'm so sorry to interrupt her sumary that I acted surprised. I was going gonna read a summary. You're like, here's amary. I went. Oh. Oh, Oh. Well, look, his sassy Pants s has a summary. She has one every weekend. just expect it. Okay, go. David Wallace calls Michael Scott on the phone He wants to get his help gathering intntel on a rival paper company. called Prince Family Paper Michael takes Dwight along as his backup And meanwhile, the gang debate whether or not Hillary Swank qualifies as hot Yep I've say one thing. I just gott to get this out. Get it out There used to be a magazine. I don't know which one. you know who you are They would do this thing. Wh wore it best? Oh yeah. They would put two people side by side in like the same dress or a skirt or pants. And there was always one person that wore it best, right? You know U and they would have a percentage like people voted. People voted. And you might have worn it best because you were tall And not five one. okay, okay? And maybe you knew to wear the right kind of heels and someone else wore fluck flops with it I don't know. Right. I'm just saying to that magazine and people that like to compare Who wereore it best or who's hot or who's not I say suck it Thank you, Angela Well, that was clearly a general comment. Nothing based on personal experience, I can tell. I'll have you know I've also been the subject of a Wh War at best So I feel that. Yeah. G know what, you all wear it best. We all wear it how we wear it. Yeah. Okay. That's how I wore it. That my body. That's how my body wears stuff. How about who wore it? Me, I wore it. Yeah. one hundred percent to me for wearing it. And you know Dressed this morning, you're welcome As you can tell, this episode might have triggered something for us. You can tell. wo gals are sitting here, not super appreciating debates on who's hot or who's not. Y. Kevin has a lot of thoughts about it. This might be the most Kevin ever spoke in a whole episode Yes. I think is this his most line count ever? Psibly? Well, I think we should get to some fast facts. I agree. Here we go. Fast fact number one. New director alert. Yeah. Assad Kalada. Yes. So our line producer Randy Cordre had worked with Assad before and he told us that Assad was actually originally supposed to direct an episode in season four. But that season got cut because of the writer strike. Oh. And so they slotted him for season five instead. So we could have almost gotten to work with this man earlier and I tell you what, he is a delight You guys, he's like television legend. He's directed everything. Yes, He has directed seventy seven episodes of The Facts of Life And one hundred and seventeen episodes of Who's the boss? I know who's the boss If your name is Angela, you know who's the boss. What? So the female leads character's nameam Angela You guys, this show was out in the nineties I was in college in the nineties. I cannot even tell you how many people left this on my answering machine. Angela. I had that on my voicemail I would say on a monthly basis. That's crazy. Let me finish telling you a little bit about Assad We loved working with him I found an interview he did where he said this I thought was so great He said that the most essential thing for making a successful comedy is casting He said that is because, quote You cannot make the actor be funny. Comedy is all about rhythm, timing, pace, and energy I agree. I thought that was so well said. Yeah All right, fast fact number two We got a lot of fan questions about the hot or not storyline. This one comes from Joe S who asked what inspired the subplot of the debate about whether or not Hillary Swank was hot or not? Was it a magazine that said, whoo are it best It wasn't, It wasn't. BJ Novak did an interview with Indy Week and he said that he was on a flight and two of the in flight movies were PS I Love You and The Great deebaters. They were both Hillary Swank movies. He was tasked with coming up with a B plot an episode, and he thought, quote, why not debate about Hillary Swank? And then he decided that the characters could debate whether or not she is attractive We got more questions from Amy Jay and Ro Hit R. How does Hillary Swank feel about this episode Oh wow. good question. Ver good question. Well, she did an interview with Time Magazine shortly after this episode came out She was asked if she had seen the episode and she said this I'm not a big television watcher, but definitely everyone made me aware of it. Oh geez. I think it's flattering anytime someone mentions you, but I don't think of myself in terms of that. meaneaning like she doesn't lead with if she's hot or not, rightight Later on in the interview She was asked about women in Hollywood in general, and she replied There is so much put on the way we look, which is interesting going back to your office question. Are you hot or arere you not It really does a disservice because there's so much more to life than looking a certain way Love you, Hilary. Hillary Well said Well said Fast fact number three Hillary Swank is a badass Would you like to hear a little about her? Yes. All right She was born in Lincoln, Nebrka She competed in the junior Olympics and the Washington State Championships in swimming She ranked fifth in state in all around gymnastics. Wow. m, that's one where you have to do all the things. You do all the things. She ranked fifth in the state. Okay Her parents separated when she was a teenager and she really wanted to be an actress, so her mom moved with her to Los Angeles when she was sixteen years old And she's spoken a lot about this. They did not have a lot of money for a while and they lived out of their car they did eventually find a place to live She enrolled in school, and then when she was twenty, so four years after she moved to LA She landed the starring role in the next Karate kid. Julie Pierce. Yeah Yeah, you know all about this, Ange. I do because you guys I got really into Cobra Kai this past year. Are you guys watching Cobra Kai? It's so good I'm not watching it. Should I be watching it? I am loving it. It's also just major like eighties nostalgia It's so good. Is this something I can watch with my kids? or is it more adulty? I've heard it's a little bit SKws older. It SKws older. than my kids. Yes. I'm not watching it with my kids. Oh, this is your time. Yeah. Okay. Josh and I watch it together. I'm sure there's, you know, teenagers that watch it, but Josh and I watch it together. So basically it's sort of picking up where they are now Right? Mhm the two lead guys And John Herwitz, who's the co creator, they reached out to me to play one of the kids' mom. What? Yes. and I wanted to do it, but it was filming in Atlanta. And you basically have to go to Atlanta for a while and I couldn't do that. I couldn't be away from my kids for that long. Yeah know, it was like an in and out. But listen, John Herwitz, if you ever move to Los Angeles, if you ever decide to film here, I am there. People have been speculating Will Julie come back because they're bringing all the characters back And this is what John Herwitz said in an interview They discuss the possibility of bringing Julie Pierce on the show He said, In our writer's room, we speak about literally every character that has appeared in the miyagi verse. They call it the Miyagi verse So it's obvious we've spoken about Julie Pierce as to whether or not she'll return to the series. That's something you'll just have to wait to find out I'm here for it, John. Bring her back. Also a little bit of office crossover Jen Slada has directed several episodes of Cobra Kai. Oh ye. I would love it if Hilary was like, Hillary, go back. G to a guest star on Cra Ki It'd be so good And then maybe there's like some little bit you could do in her episode. Yes, Hilary, maybe I could be your best friend This is it. And then I could go just for a week, John, just like four days. Yeah. Okaykay we worked it out, Jen S slaudghta. Jen Saudghta took off it. Make it happen. Well, Hillary Syank was twenty years old when she was a next karot kid When she was twenty five years old, She did, the lead role in Boys Don't Cry Wow. And she won an Oscar. She is one of the youngest women to ever win an Oscar She also won an Oscar for her lead role in million dollar Baby. That movie destroyed me. I mean, both of those movies. I mean they' Oh There are only twelve other actresses who have won two or more lead actress Oscars. Those are both lead actress Oscars. So she's in a very impressive club there. She sure is So that's Hillary Swank, y'all Well, Hillary, we are here for you. We should take a break and we come back There is a classic Jim Prank This podcast is brought to you by Squarespace. Because we love Squarespace. 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No other computers have red wires. What is it? Yeah, it's a new wire. It's never been there before. Yeah. Well, he starts tearing at this wire. Yeah, he wants to know where it's coming from. Yeah In the script it says, Dwight pulls the wire off the floor and follows it to the wall. It goes over a door frrame under Phyllis's desk Dwight crawls under Phyllis's desk We did a little differently. We did a little differently. First of all, you can't crawl through Phyllis' desk because there was like a backstop Right? Yeah, it doesn't go all the way through to Stanley's desk And in the script, Phyllas says, Do I get out of there And that's pretty much of the episode. And then Dwight would have said, shush, shh, shush I think Rain Irovise shut up, Phyllas So D I's going to follow this wire into the hole Yeah, all the way outside and up He Telephone poll whichich we can see over Jim's shoulder in Jim's talking head. Right, And it is a real telephone poll. It's a real telephone poll. Jim says he got five hundred feet of red wire at a flea market for twenty bucks How long did this take him? Jim has a lot of extra time. He gets to work so Early Cam is like, you know what? I know we were gonna carpool, but you've got that dwight prank and you've got to go at three in the morning and I'm gonna sleep in Yeah L what's the real life side of that reached out to Randy to find out how we did this stunt of rain up on this telephone pole. Right? He can't climb a real telephone pole. That's not safe. No, because what he told me was that the pole over Jim's shoulder really is an actual working utility pole that's embedded in our sidewalk, you know, right out here folks, don't go climb it for a photo. Don't climb get electrocuted. Yeah, it carried high voltage electricity. They couldn't even have a stunt person dressed as Dwight climb that pole. Yeah. So our production designer Michael Gallenberg and his construction team rented a matching utility pole you can do that, I guess. Where is that I mean, seriously How do they know these things This is the crazy part of Hollywood magic. Oh, you know what I'm gonna do today? I'm gonna rent a fakey telephone pole. Yeah. That's huge, huge Well, they put it up in our parking lot between the two sound stages and they put like a green padded platform around it in case you fell. Yep And they put up a big green screen behind the whole thing And then they brought rain out along with like a stunt coordinator and a safety officer, and they had rain climb up. It was only a few feet that he had to climb And then in post production, They had their visual effects team digitally add rain to the real pole over Jim's shoulder. They superimpose like hole ono the other. Yes. Got it. Even though rain was really only a little bit off the ground, they could like hike it up so it looked like he was like al wayay up there pool. Yeah. That's movie magic, folks. That is some good movie magic. But here's the thing that gets me about that. That's like real Special effects, kind of like stuntty stuff for our little TV show about a paper company. Like I never really thought hard about how much it took to do that gag. until we went to break it down. Yeah right Like it's such a quick little blip and you're like, that was like two weeks of figuring that out. Of prep. Yeah I feel like every week we are learning how much Michael Gallenberg, Kyle Alexander, Phil Say Our wardrobe department, set designers, how they all made these little moments happen and made it seamless. Yeah I know, so much work goes into these little things That's amazing. The frruit fly Wrangler. We had to know their like mating cycle. Craziness. Crazy. Hereace the cold open Now we start this episode. Michael's in his office. He's on the phone with David Wallace I feel like David's really playing Michael here because he dangles out that regional supervisor job. He's like, you know, I still haven't filled that slot yet. And Michael's like, o And then he asked Michael to go do this thing. Yeah, to go spy on this tiny little paper company. I know to do some field work Michael's so excited Yeah During the scene, I was really struck by the toys on Michael's desk 'cause they would rotate them. They would, you guys every once in a while, there would be some new toys. Here's what was on his desk A Rubik's cube Not finished Tiny pool table Yes Colorful plastic expanding ball thingy You know that thingy? Yeah, yeah, that's a staple. Yes. and also the wind up teeth. Those are always pool table had moved, so he's clearly played it recently and it's on top of all the stuff in his inbox. He can't get to anything in his inbox It's not important. The pool table is number one of things to do. Yeah made me laugh A miniature pool table in his inbox says everything you need to know about Michael Scott's work ethic. That's right Stanley and Phyllis are going to start having this conversation about whether or not they think Hillary Swank is hot And the rest of the gang gets involved. I feel like these kind of moments happen in small offices. you sort of start to debate things like You pick a soccer team during the playoffs and people debate about the players and it can become a whole thing and it's just a way to fill the boredom. Oh, for sure bone to pick with Jim Why is that? At three minutes eighteen seconds, I titled this moment, What the hell, Jim? What is the moment? Jim suggests they put it to a vote in the bullpin Angela says she isn't voting, and Jim says noody cares. What the hell, Jim? That's some Jim S sass. Jim Sass. Did you notice what Pam said? What did he say? Pam says Did you see her with her bangs? And lady, this made me laugh out loud because I just recently gotten bangs and people have a lot of opinions about it. They do have opinions about my bangs. But what made me laugh was that before I got my bangs, I of course Googled images of people with bangs. You have to do research. You don't just you got to look at all the pictures. You Googled people with bangs. You texted me, I think I'm gonna get bangs. Yeah To which I replied, Ohh no I said I think I'm gonna get bangs right now because like I was getting a haircut in the moment. By the time you replied, it was done. with the kids I decided we were gonna to paint, I bought the canvas and all the paint stuff were outside. We'd made this huge mess. I'd set my phone aside so I didn't get paint on it. And then I just thought I'd check in, see what's happening. And I see this text from you that's half an hour old that says, I think I'm going to get bangs now. and I was like, o no But lady, I think they're adorable. I think they're super cute ' they're curly. I'm loving it. I bring it up because one of the people I saw in my research was Hillary Swank with bangs. So when Pam said this in the scene, it made me laugh but I really based my banks O some like Mia Faro from Hannah and her sisters. You look very seventies kind kind of like beachy wave with bangs. A little bit of Terry Gar. Terry Gar wore some bangs, like no one's business Right. But my main inspiration was probably Stevie Nicks And I will admit, that after getting my banks I did style my hair in a full Stevie Nicks and then I took pictures and I put them side by side. I was too shy to post. But I want to see the side by side. You you want to see my Stevie Ns? Oh my God. Do you have it on your phone? Yeah, I mean, I really did this ink Oh, you kinda did the same mouth. I tried to I put on the same necklace. I did like a whole thing. Oh, you did. We gotta put that in office ladies pod stories, please. It's okay. I mean, I'm doing a whole pouty mouth, so I got a little bit like shy. You even did the dark eyeliner. I did I'm telling you, she was my inspo. It was the whole afternoon I knew your life. This was a whole day. I didn't know what was happening. I mean, I had to take off my glasses for the picture. I know, whichich actually made it a little hard to take the picture. I couldn't see. Tell me about it. I can't tell you how many photos I've taken of Josh and the kids because you know, when you're like a family, one parent has to take the picture. Yeah. And half the time I don't have my glasses because I'm not good about wearing them And Josh will be like These are out of focused and like I can't tell I just click I love how we literally could not be more off topic, right? We're so off topic. Okay. All right, we'll get back to. We'll get back on topic. All right, all right, all right. So we are now, oh God, you guys, we are about to talk about a scene I absolutely loved. It's a driving scene between Dwight and Michael. They're headed to Prince's familyamily Paper notice How much they bicker in this scene? They're like an old married couple. I loved it. They bicker about who would seduce the fictional daughter. They don't even know if this person exists. Yeah. And they bicker about Denny's and Nihop. They bicker about the clouds Dwight says, getet your clouds right, Michael tells him to shut up We have a background catch. What is it? Oh, it sent me down a Google path, Jenna All right, so whenever we have driving scenes, we always look for palm trees, right? Yeahep, spot the palm tree in this one I recognizize the street they were on It's Chandler Boulevard It's a residential street. And guess what else I recognized? What? It was trash day And there were blue recycle bins in every driveway. I took a few photos. Okay, I'll put those in pod So then I thought, is that what the recycled trash bins look like in scranton Hm. So that took me to The recycling laws for Lockawana County. Oh Hang with me because there's a woman named Barbara, who I am now fascinated by. First of all, that is not what recycle bins look like. in Lockaana County. So theres are like these blue round tubs. Okay? Unless they've changed, you guys can correct me. Ours are these like skinny rectangles with lids. Y So here's an article I read from April of twenty nineteen Barbara, Juo Vinoli, is the recycling coordinator for Lockwana County. Barbara shared that the recycling center in Lockawana County accepts plastics and glass bottles and jars, aluminum, stille cans, as well as newspaper. It is a dual streamed system. They have containers, bottles, jars and cans in one, and paper fibers separately. They do not accept plastic bags, take out containers, or pizza boxes. L Lady The recycle centers get all kinds of wacky things. People put all kinds of crazy things in the recycle bins Barbara has a tip for you. She wants you to know She says there's an easy way to remind yourself what can and cannot be recycled the Lockawana County Reycling Cent Ask yourself, is that a bottle Is it a jar If the answer is no, that means it has to be thrown away I want to meet Barbara. I want to meet Barbara It's real simple Ask yourself, is this a jar Is this a bottle No Tash Wow We have to meet her. We have to meet her. Anyway, this was a random thing I noticed in the background. No palm trees siding, several recycle bins Also in the scene for those of you guys keeping track of how many times Michael Skarn is mentioned in the series, this is one of them because it's going to be Michael's alias. And then they get into a real heated argument I mean, that has history Denny's an Ii hot Yeah. They're going to rendezvous after they get the info. Michael says at IHop I' like I did not agree to Ie hO Socialist. Yeah He's like you socialist, I'm going to Dinny's. And Michael's like you are going to IHopP and you will have pancakes and you will like it What do you like? Do you have strong feelings about IHOP or Denny's? I really don't, but I would say I've had IHOop more because there was one right on campus when I went to college, basically like across the street and we would walk over there. And there's also one by my kid's pediatrician office. so I've just been IHOMore I would say that if I'm looking for a pancake IHP is going to come to mind. Yeah, but I want to say these words to you. Oh, what? Moonss over my hammy Oh is that that is a Denny special special and it's real good So if I'm wanting more of an egg sandwich, I'm gonna have to head to Denny's. Now I'm just craving breakfast I know me too, kinda. Well, these guys do eventually get to their destination of Printince Family Paper. It's in like a little strip mall, rightight. And I got a location alert. Let's do it We rented an empty mini mall Near the corner of Laurel Canyon and Victory Boulevard in North Hollywood, California, We rented a whole min mall I guess we did because Randy said our location manager, Kyle Alexander, had to find a location where we could have some sort of office front that had all windows because we assumed that if they were going undercover They couldn't bring a documentary crew with them. Oh, that's so smart. I didn't even think about that when I watched. Every single shot is through the glass. Yes. And so they had to be able to have a total glass front on this Office But then we also needed this giant parking lot. So he was able to find all of that in this little empty mini mall. I want Kyle to come on the show. Me too. He's like the master of every amazing location. So good. G get this, we had to bring all those cars And did you notice the fakey snow residue? We put fakey snow residue on all the cars. They're still dirty from last week. I know And then our production designer, Michael Gallenberg had to create the entire Prince Family Paper offices from scratch. Michael, we want you one too. Michael and Kyle, we want you one. We're coming for you So they're in the car and Dwight's got a little pair of binoculars and they're coming up with their plan Wh White's binoculars are like industrial looking. They look like they have night vision. Yeah And then here is my question through this whole scene They are eating. What they eating? Is it a giant can of nuts? I tried to zoom in. What is it? I did Did you see it? I did. I did take a picture. I actually love the blooper for this scene so much that I filmed the blooper and I sent it to Rain and texted him and I was like, what are you guys eating? And he was cracking up He said, Ange, I am pretty sure those were smoked almonds. They looked like almonds, but they had like stuff on them. Yeah. He said he was pretty sure there were smoked almonds And while they're eating these almonds, they decide on a signal that they need to give each other if there's danger. They have to get out of there. And Dwright says you gott to lick your lips. And Michael does a quick lick. Meanwhile, they're eating these almonds the whole time And Dwight goes no like this and does this big like. think Yeah And in the process of doing this, they started laughing. and when they did rain in his laughter in his goufa, he spit like projectile almond, it like flew and hit Steveven in the face I have the blooper clip We're going to need a signal to bolt out of there at the slightest sign of danger. Okayv, that signal is lit your lips . No, no, no, like this L I'm so sorry, dude, look. the side of his face with a wet half chewed alm. I mean, you can hear it come out of his mouth. You really can. And then Rain felt so bad and he grabs like a tissue and he starts in the moment just reacting. he just starts wiping Steve's face Oh gosh, it's so good This is so good. Michael then has a talking head where he says that in nature, there is a food chain where the bigger shark eats the littler shark and so on until it gets to the single cell shark Exactly. And basically, you know That's what they are. They're sharks And then as he's getting out of the car, he's doing the whole jaws thingian D Yeah He goes into Princes Family paper He introduces himself as Michael Scarn and he sits down and he starts having just The most wonderful conversation with Mr. Prince I' doing a kind of a good job is, and you know, he completely charms Mr. Prince. He does He's a lawyer who knows a lot about paper because he is a genius. Yeah aboutbout some things, but not everything. Not everything. What's this? Is this a phone? Is this a phone? mr. Roger Prince can't get enough of it. He's cackling laughing. He also learns that Prince family paper is a three person operation. Yeah Prince, his wife, Linda, and his son. Yes. And his granddaughter, Rebecca, sits in the corner Well Angela, I did a guest star breakdown for the members of Print Family Paper. Oh, great So Roger Prince, the father, was played by Dan Desmond And I found this really interesting From nineteen ninety to two thousand one He was in five different episodes of Law and Order and he played a different character each time Let me tell you, I love Lw and orrder and they do that They bring people back. One time you're a police officer, the next time you're a judge. I was literally just watching a law and order marathon and I swear Jeremy Sisto was like Just a guest star like a guy And then in the next episode, he was a police officer and like a series regular. No I don't. Did that happen? I feel like the rules of law and order are sort of like a soap opera Yeah, you can come back in many different forms. Well, they loved Dan Desmond over at Law and Order He was also in the movie Bruce Almighty and most recently in the minieries Little Fires Everywere. Gun gun Roger Prince Jr. was played by Dan Bacendal. You might recognize him for his recurring roles on V. or the Goldbergs or space Force He was also a regular on life in pieces He has also been on law and order But just one episode. Okay Linda Price was played by Sharon Blackwood, who recently appeared in two episodes of Ozark has never been on law and order None of them than on monk None. craziness Okay, wait, I have a lawn order story What is it? is one of my more embarrassing audition stories You auditioned for laaw and orrder? I did er didn't get it. You'll know why. You guys, I was so excited. I love laaw and Oder. I would watch the marathon on T and T. I loved it. Yeah, same. I still watchar watch it. If it's on, I'm watching it. All right. I got an audition. I was so excited. And I was very new to auditioning, okay? I'd only booked a few commercials It was to be a real estate agent You know how the guys at the top of the show would interview people, Wh they were at work and they're always too busy. They're always too busy I got to get somewhere. Yeah Yeah, like This murder you're investigating is a big inconvenience to me. I have to show a house. Yeah, exactly. Are we done? Are we done? Exactly. I had just watched an episode where they were questioning these guys that were loading trash into like a garbage truck. Yep. They did not stop loading their trash They're gonna keep they they're annoyed. I'm busy here. I gotta keep the truck moving. Always. Always. I had this in my brain In the script, it said They question a real estate agent as she is setting out Her signs for the day with the little flag, her showing signs. Yeah, right? You know those things. Lady. I'm not even joking. I think I literally just saw this episode. Are you kidding? Yeah, there was a blonde woman and she had to be blonde because that was part of the plot. Yeah, by the way. Yeah. And she was talking to them while putting out the little sign for selling the house. Okay. Oh my go saw the part you didn't get. Okay. So I go in there and I'm like, okay, I got this. So it's the casting agent. She's sitting across from her desk. I was so nervous, but I was like, I got this, I got this. literally it's three lines. It's like three or four lines. That's it. All I had in my brain was, you will not interrupt me from putting out my real estate sign. Yeah. That's the energy Jenna in this woman's office. I moveved two chairers out of my way. Her cheers Hur chairs I have to put up your sign. I move them And then when we started the scene, I am setting things out Setting it out, moving things busy. bususy. I'm moving things have been really distracting. She said, You know what? I'm gonna stop you Oh no You never want to hear that in. She was like, you're doing too much. okay You're doing too much Stop moving things around and just deliver the lines. And I said, okay, This went into my brain as touch her chairs do some great space work. Yeah. mime it Now I'm putting out real estate signs. my m, m, m, my m' have just looked ridiculous. Yeah. I didn't get the part. I did too much business You know, who's been on laaw and order Rayain Wilson He plays a creepy janitor. Oh, I need to see it. During one of my marathons, I was just sitting there and I was like, o. There he is. You know, who else has been on Jackie Deobotton She was just on in the marathon I watched. Jackie Well, if I ever get to audition for Law and Order again, I'm not gonna do a lot of business. Don't do it Eally, Rebecca Prince, the little girl, was played by Emily Evan Ray, and she's gonna come back in a couple of episodes actually. Emily recently produced and directed a documentary called Stop the Bleed aboutbout the mass shooting in Parkland, Florida Emily was born and raised in Parkland, and she made the movie to give a voice to the family friends and the community who were affected She won the Audience Award at the Fort Lauderdale Film Festival for Best Documentary Yeah, that's what she's been up to. That's amazing. Yes Well, on that note, I think we should take a break and then we'll be back to join the group at Dunder Miffland because they have more to say. There's a big debate going on. Here's thing It feels like Everything is costing more right now So when we find something that actually works And it feels like it's worth the money, we get really excited. 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Talk to a state fararm agent today to learn how you can choose to bundle and save with their personal price plan Like a good neighbor, State Farm is there Prices are based on rating plans that vary by state. Coverage options are selected by the customer. Availability, amount of discounts and savings, and eligibility vary by state Well, we're back in the bullpin. okay? And the debate is still going on, the hot or not There's a whole debate about what is attractive hot. Right. Kevin has a lot to say, the most of her. But first, Jim is going to comment that, you know, sometimes we forget to think of celebrities as real people Kevin sort of says it's a gut thing Right. And then Jim gets all up in Kevin's ear and gives like a husky whisl tree paints a picture of Hillary Swank coming up to him We got so much mail about John Krzinski's husky voice to Kevin. in this episode It was like Just I was too shy to put it in my document. Oh come. Give me one nugget, somethingomet you remember someone saying. One nugget Basically this woman said What John Krzinski could debate anything in my ear if he uses that voice He to me But I did write down this one Because Laura B needed a soap box moment, so I thought I'd give it to her. Okay, Laura Lauraays this It always bothers me that when Stanley asks why they're making a distinction between beautiful and hot Kevin says, quote, a painting can be beautiful, but I don't want to bang a painting. But later in the episode, Kevin turns around and tells Jim to respect the game after Jim narrates the saucy scenario with Hillary Swank And Kevin says, no It's is she hot? not would you bang her? he just used the same phrase to explain why he wouldn't bang a painting Kevin, you can't use the same argument on different sides. That's what Laura B says. She says you respect the game, Kevin Kevin Laura We hear you Angela has been over in accounting. she hasn't wanted to participate But she can't take it anymore All right Kevin holding court like this, she's had it She gets up and she says, Okaykay. I wasn't going to dignify this discussion by getting involved But I don't even get the discussion. Hot is a temperature people, but Kevin deserves to lose for what he said. So yes, she's hot, she's hot as heck. She's a female Boris Becker I love Becker is it for Angela Martin. Who knew? I know. I didn't even realize Angela Martin was a tennis fan. Clearly Yeah. Well, y'all, Boris Becker was a German tennis player who shot to stardom when he won the Wimbledon Men's Singles title in nineteen eighty five It was significant because he was only seventeen years old and he was the first unseated player and the first German. to win the Wimbledon Singles title as well as the youngest ever male Grand Slam Singles champion It was huge. I watched it with my mom. My mom's a big, big tennis player. She's phenomenal. She was ranked by the USTA by her age group. I spent my whole childhood on a tennis court. Wow. Yeah. My mom I did not know that about your mom. My mom's a badass tennis player. We're a big tennis family guys. There are two things that are always on at our house, either the weather or tennis because my mom has the tennis channel. Yeah And we'll watch old games. Oh, I'd love it when Boris Becker would play Stefan Eggberg because my mom had shown me old games of Beyond Borg and he was the other big Swede. There was Stefan and Beyond Borg and Beyond Borg would play John McINroe. Speaking of Boris Becker played John McNroe and it's one of the longest games in tennis history. It was the Davis Cup. It was six hours and something minutes. Can you imagine Playing tennis for six hours? No Unbelie I can't imagine playing tennis for six minutes So Anyway, Boris Becker does it for Angela Martin I we should go back to Prince's family paper Lady. We forgot to mention that Dwight has come in. he's going to pretend to get a job there He says, fire your son, I'll be your son. You can visit him on the weekends I know. he comes in the place Full in a China cabinet And he's going to explain to mister Prince just how awful his current boss is, you know, because he says, why are you looking for a new job And he's like, well, my current boss is cruel Terrible Meanwhile, Michael's kind of walking around. He wants to get a photograph of their kind of territory map Over there by Mrs. Prince. Yeah And then he offers to help her granddaughter with a math problem I have to say when I was watching these scenes, I was just so impressed with the detail. that went in this little set I know Well, I was emailing with Michael Gallenberg about this particular set and he said everything you see, they had to bring in Crazy, crazy. I loved all the details too Well, I noticed on that little girl's desk, did you see it? She had her own nameplate? I know. Itays Rebecca? I know. And also on the desk are all of these little like hand painted ceramic animals like the kind that your granddaughter would give to you. And also I noticed on the wall There was one of those photo collages, love framed photos. they had clearly asked the actors to bring in some pictures. and all of those details to me just like really set this up as a family business. And it made the whole storyline even more heartbreaking. No, they had a whole family photo wall. I zoomed in one is like a wedding photo. and then there's like your grandson in his baseball uniform holding his baseball bat Yeah. And then there was a big painting like your kids do at preschool where they take their hands and put it in paint and then they make their handprints into flowers. Yes. justust like the most amazing details. I feel like this is Michael's. Tue Dream office. because it is a real family. Yes, Angela, you're so right. He wants his office to be his family. And this office is a family. I know Well, that's going to weigh on his heartstrings Well, as he wraps up his visit He gets Mr. Prince to just hand him a list of their top clients. U, Mr. Prince, he's just so trusting. He's like, listen, if you want to see we do a good job, here's all of our references. Here's all of our clients. Well, Dwight and Michael immediately start licking their lips. Yeah. I T time to get out of there. G get out of there. Dwight says, sir, can you give me a ride home Michael's like, yeah And then they sprint, they walk, hurry, hurry, hurry to the car, getet out, peel out, peel out because they know they got all the info. Yes Well, as they're trying to flee, Michael runs over like the parking curb. you on with a bumper that cent. I don't know what you call that What do you call that? It's like a partition. It's like the cement block so you don't go into the other spot. I've done it. I've done it, but I haven't backed back over it. No, of course. Once you realize you go over it, keep going going. I asked Randy, how did we do this stunt What you say? He said we had two different identical cars One that was totally normal and one that was pre rigged with a damaged bumper. So Steve never damaged a car. And if you notice, the camera stays inside the car on Dwight and Michael. So what Steve was actually driving over were just a couple of sandbags. Well, it totally sold it. It did, and they had to add all that kind of crunching effect in editing So yeah The fakey cement thing was actually sandbags and sound effects. Prince family hears this commotion and they come running out. and of course, mrter. Prince, because he's so sweet, offers to fix the bumper. and they're like, no, no, no, wa, well, wait no, please let us we'll get a tow truck. And he's like, Oh, no, they're too expensive. I got it And Jenna, this scene made me think of my dad. It made me think of my dad too because of the duct tape. My dad would fix anything with duct tape. Same My dad did this with my first car. The handle on my glove box broke. Okay My dad duct taped it. You know what it's making me think of? What Josh's duct tape is zip ties. all over the house. Your husband zip ties it. Our dads would duct tape it. Yeah. My dishwasher tray It' been zippedied for four years. It finally fell apart, We had to get a new dishwasher But you can pretty much fix anything with duct tape Pretty much Ining a whole bumper So now they're in the car, they're going to head back Dwight still is celebrating. He wants to do high fives He calls them the soccer family. I know. Do I does that like young kid on the soccer field who doesn't know when to stop Yeah. Like you scored the goal. now stop taunting. Yeah, are right? Eactly. Michael is having some regrets. Yeah Dwight tries to high five Michael and Michael's like not having any of it. So back in the office, Toby is studying Hillary Swank Pam is gonna make a speech She's gonna appeal to the ladies of the office. Yeah, what are we gonna let the Kevins of the world Decide things for us And then Oscar projects this picture of Hillary Swank's face with all this grid on it, right? Yeah And he talks about quinophilia The symmetry right of the face. So Poinopilia is this Stay with me here Eolutionary hypothesis for explaining why certain animals seek mates that look a certain way And it proposes that animals, including humans, find the symmetry of features most attractive. I read all about it. I barely understood it. Okay. It was very wordy In ancient Greece They created something called the Golden ratio of Beauty. or phi. It's a mathematical equation And it says, if your face possesses a specific set of ratios distance between the different features on your face They believed it could be mathematically proven that you had perfect face. This equation is what Da Vinci used when he was creating his Virtruvian man. Oh. That is what Oscars I think really talking about. I think he's talking about ratios. I don't think he's really talking about coinophilia. Stanley's going to address the group and he makes a really moving speech Yeah about how he's trying to be more optimistic in life. And in years past, he might have been critical, but he's not gonna be that person anymore. No. I liked this speech. I did too You know, he's saying, why are we doing this to one another Let's just live our lives, basically Yeah Andy calls for a final vote on Hillary Swank's hotness. It's another tie. We discover like this is what happens. People just argue their position, they don't listen. That's what Oscar says. Yeah, no one's mo. No one's moving. But Michael gets back to the office during all of this He's clearly worked up He goes in his office with Dwight They shut the door. He doesn't want to go through with it. Yeah Dwight knows that Michael is bailing. So he's going to try his best to convince Michael that what they did was right. He's going to use the one argument that will clearly point this out to Michael which is a Lord of the Rings analogy Dwight says there was a terrible war. Ugh, so many died. far too many died, but a Frodo hadn't destroyed the ring, then goodness itself might have died I didn't understand that I was Michael questions. I wrote them down. Okay, I thought you might. Listen, I am not a Lord of the Rings expert I don't want to get mail, guys. I just am a fan I've seen the movies multiple times. I've read some of book It's big commitment to get through them all. okay? I have not gotten through them all. Okay, well here's my first question. Okay, Who is the Lord of the Rings? Okay? Is it Frodo? No? Is it the guy with the beard? No, it's not like a one person What is the ring Well, it's called the O Ring, right? The O Ring to rule them all Oh Lord. Okaykay. All right, where do I even start? First of all, here's what I want to say I know the battle that Dwight's referencing. I'm pretty sure it's the battle of the Black Gate, right? whichich is the big major battle for the War of the Ring. They fought it right in front of the gate and they were trying to distract the Eye of Sauron because the eye of Sauron tracks whoever holds the ring and Frodo had the ring and Frodo was trying to get to Mount Doom to drop it into the lava Lake thing, right? That's the one place it can be dested. have to get rid of it? Why is he destroying it because it's innately evil I'll explain. Okay.. So it's called the Lord of the Rings But it's one ring. So it shouldn't be why it's not called Lord of the Ring Okay, okay. this is. Okay. So Bilbo Baggins, right? Oh my God. He found the ring. Dahm had been hiding it. This is a really bad overview for me. Anyway, he gave it to Frodo. And you know Gandalf realized that Bill Baggins, like when he had the ring, it kind of made him a different person. So Gandalf was like, something's up with that. You know But so many nes. There was this inscription when you take the ring and you put it in the fire because just fire can't kill it. Dragon fire can't kill it. Not even dragon fire No won't melt the ring. But when you put it like in the fire, it has an inscription and it's written, I think is it in Elfish guys? Okay, donon't write me. I believe so. Thank you, Sam. When it's translated, the inscription says and I did look this up, so I got it right One ring to roll them all, one ring to find them, one ring to bring them all and in the darkness bind them. So the ring is essentially evil in nature because it's an extension of Sauron Okay. And Saron's like bad. he's bad, bad Anyway, Frodo ultimately you know, puts it in the lava lake thing and it finally is destroyed. So lava is hotter than dragonfire. Well, no, it had to go to Mount Doom specifically. It's a special lava because that's where Sauron made it. Oh, so it had to go back to where it came from. Right sort of. Yeah. It could only sort of melt into its original source material Yeah, I think so. Here's a cool thing. you know, can I just before I know we're talking about the ring, but at the end of this, are you going to tell me who the Lord of the Rings is? No, because it it's not one Lord. It's not one Lord Sam. Okay, well, so originally they make a bunch of rings. Yes There There are several r, nine for the like men, some for the elves, some for the dwarves R And the one ring can rule them all. That's what makes it so dangerous. Right. And I guess, I mean, technically the lord of all the rings would be Sauron who made it Well, because he made the one ring. Yes. If you were to get this ring, you would be the Lord of all the rings.s it will corrupt you and make you hble That's what happens damages people. Sigle the Glem. it'll Yeah And the humans, the humans, it makes them like Yeah, it makes you insane and murderous and jealous and awful. I mean, that sounded good, actually, Sam That was you made that interesting I'm sitting right here I mean, I was like, while I was listening to that, I was like Really Shakespearean and sort of like I like it. Maybe read the books. Maybe you'd like the books better than the movies because you lose interest when things get fantastical and you could just flip a few pages past that. I don't know Well, Michael is not moved Bye wit, Lord of the Rings logic Yeah, he's like you. He's like nah, dont okay, whatever. I mean, you know, he's gonna to sprint out of the office with the piece of paper. He's gonna to destroy it I assumed he was gonna run to the shredder. Yeah No. He runs the way outside to his car. But shoot, he forgot his keys. Meanwhile, Dwight is chasing him, trying to get it from him. He gets his keys and then goes back in And we know how elaborate it was to shoot that because all of those places, the stairwell, the hallway, they're all in different locations, in different buildings. Oh yeah. So they would have to reset up and then make those guys run and then move and set up and make those guys run. They did such a good job of selling how tired they were because they only ever really had to run for short distances. Right, right. It was not actually all tied together. In the end, Dwite is like Michael You have to do this because if we don't do this, someone will do this to us It will happen Yeah Did you see the piles of fakey snow

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