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I love this line so much and it completely captures the moment when you're asked a question you don't know the answer to and you have to make it up as you go. Was all of that improvised or was it fully scripted? Thanks, Melissa Okay, so Melissa, we talked about this in our breakdown, how Steve improvised a lot of this, but we didn't play it I pulled a clip from the Superfun version because there is an extra joke at the top and it really cracked us up Let's hear it My philosophy is Basically this, I like to sell paper for more than I bought the paper for That's obviously obvious. But here's the thing, and this is something that I live by And I always have And I always will Don't. ever For any reason, do anything to anyone For any reason ever, no matter what No matter Where or who or who you are with or where you are going or or where you've been ever For any reason whatsoever. Sometimes I'll start a sentence and I don't even know where it's going. I just hope I find it along the way an improv conversation improvisation I mean, it's something he lives by and always will for any reason for any reason. So not only was this our fan favorite moment of the episode, we also got a letter that this scene is educational Listen to this Angela B wrote in and said More of a comment for this episode I taught English one hundred one at a university which focused on college writing Every semester, whenever I did a lesson on needing to have a purpose for writing, I would show the clip from this episode where Michael starts to answer David Wallace's question and later says that he doesn't always know where his sentences are going to go It's a great example about how if you don't know what the point of your argument or statement is, you'll end up with meandering thoughts. So wonderful Hey, you know what? just get it down on paper. You'll find it, right? Well, Angela, you might remember that I got really into the subject of dueling when we did this episode. Yes, I did a little deep dive on the rules of dueling Well, we got some mail from folks that took my dive even deeper. And I'm gonna to read two letters that really tickled me The first is from Laura H who said hi I really enjoyed the dual podcast episode To add to your discussion of dueling, I wanted you to know that as an attorney in Kentucky, I had to be sworn in by the state Supreme Court As part of the swearing in process, attorneys have to solemnly swear, quote that since the adoption of the present Constitution, I, being a citizen of this state have not fought a duel with deadly weapons within this state, nor out of it, nor have I sent or accepted a challenge to fight a duel with deadly weapons, nor have I acted as a second in carrying a challenge, nor aided or assisted any person thus offending my goodness. Laura said the discussion regarding dueling is nearly half of the entire oath It was really funny to say that during the ceremony. And then Nicole C wrote in to say, I enjoyed hearing your history of dueling and wanted to let you know something else I am a lawyer in the military, a jag. And the military has its own set of rules called the Uniform Code of Military Justice or UCMJ. There is an article in the UCMJ Article one hundred and fourteen that makes it illegal for military members to duel to promote a duel to not take action in stopping a duel or to fail to report a duel. So no dueling again. But then Nicole goes on to say that When we prepare to court martial someone They have models of the argument that they make And Nicole said, if we were going to court martial Andy for dueling, here is how that would be argued ot. In that Andy Bernard did at or near the Scranton Business Park on or about this date, fight a duel with Dwight Sroot using as a weapon, therefore a Toyota prius Nicole says there could also be a court martial for Angela for promoting a duel And it would sound like this in that Angela Martin did at or near the Scranton Bus Park on or about this date promote a duel between Dwight Shrd and Andy Bernard by telling Andy he would be a coward if he failed to challenge Dwight to a duel Mm. So Two sets of charges I guess though, maybe Dwight should be charged as well. He did participate. I found that all fascinating I mean, people a lot of thoughts on dueling. Deling was like a big deal. B deal. Well, listen, everyone, Thank you for tuning in. Thank you for writing in. Please write us your fan favorite moments over in our second drinks folder at officladies dot comot And now please enjoy the duel, but don't do a duel. No. And we've got really great tidbits in this one too from Gen Solada, director Dean Holland and producer Randy Cordre, so go give it a listen I Fis and I'm Angela Kinzie. We were on the office together, and we're best friends. And now we're doing the ultimate Office rewatch podcast just for you. Each week, we will break down an episode of the Office and give exclusive behind the scene stories that only two people who were there, can tell you. We're the office, ladies Lady, it's the duel. I mean two men are gonna fight over me today. Me, AKA, Angela Martin I to say, like Andy's Prius, this episode sneaked up on me But in a great way Oh my gosh, hidden gem It's so good. It's one of my favorite episodes. I loved watching it, I loved filming it, and I'm excited to talk about it today. Well, it is season five episode twelve, written by Jen Slata and directed by Dean Holland Here's your summary Michael takes it upon himself to expose Angela and Dwight's affair to Andy The two men then challenge one another to a duel in the parking lot. Meanwhile, Michael is summoned to corporate to speak with David Wallace. He thinks it's going to be bad news, but he gets some unexpected praise Oh thoseose scenes, We'll get to it, but man, those are good too Fast fact number one This episode was written by the always amazing Genelata Applause for Jin. Oh, Jen D so many good lines in this I reached out to Jen And she sent in an audio clip explaining the inspiration behind this episode Let's hear it. My biggest memory about writing the duel was how little I had when I was sent off to write the script It was mid season five and it was a really busy patch for the writers for all of us. And I remember this episode had to be written really, really quickly. And I knew it was about Andy finding out about Angela and Dwight's affair But where we'd usually spend time as group fleshing out the story, I went off on the script with a sentence Andy runs over Dwight and his Prius, keeping it under five miles an hour so Dwight doesn't hear him coming I mean, it was a good sentence. but There was a lot to fill in That was it. She had a sentence And she crafted this amazing story. Yes Why Andy was going to run over Dwight slowly with a prius? She didn't know She just knew that was going to happen in the episode and this is what she came up with. She had to build to that moment Because usually they would get whole outlines. they would Have an A plot, a B plot, all of it No Amazing. Genilana.ad. My Bostad. ammazing N number two, this episode was directed by Dean Holland Dean was our other editor alongside Dave Rogers We love D We loveved Dean and he knew the show so well, much like Dave, they knew every moment. Oh yeah. Dean told me that he had directed something for MTV, but that this was his first time directing an episode of television He was so nervous that he threw up in the bathroom at crew callall. A When he texted me that I was like, are you joking? He said, No, I'm being serious. I vomited in the bathroom. A He said that it was really daunting because He had come from editing and he hadn't spent a lot of time on set. You know, editors' life is very isolating. They're just in their editing room. And while we would pop over and say hello, it's very different than how a set works. And he said he felt a little bit like a stranger in a strange land. thoseose were his words But he also said he'd consulted a little bit with Paul Feue But more than anything, he did a ton of prep work for this episode He said he knew the script inside and out and listen to this He said it changed very little from our table read So that was good because he had been prepping and prepping on that table redraft And a lot of times, you know, after the table read, they'll come back and whole scenes are gone and new plots, but no. Oh yeah. He said he was really happy that not a lot changed. But I think again, Genilata. Yeah clearly nailed this one from the beginning. She nailed it So here's a little secret that Randy Cordre told me, Angela, You know, he's our line producer and he's in charge of setting the schedule for the directors. Yeah, so he must have known when Dean was directing. He manipulated the schedule so that Dean would get this episode because when he read it, he thought Dean would be perfect to direct it Oh my gosh, Randy, look at you. I working it. Yeah. He said he really wanted Dean to get this one for his directorial debut. I mean What a gift Wow Well, this was a really big episode, you know, for the whole love triangle. The dwight Andie Angela was all coming to a head and I was nervous actually about this episode. I just knew that I wanted to play these moments right and it was a tricky kind of scenario, Jenna, because like Angela is worried about both of them and feeling guilt, but also I don't know if she turned on. I don't know There's a lot happening. and I felt very safe knowing Dean was directing me this week Because like we knew him. you know what I mean? Yes. And I could go up to him and be like, Dean, did I do that right? What do you think? Should I try something else? So I felt very happy to have Dean there for the duel Well, shortly after this, he went over to do parks and recs He was the editor over there. Yeah. He directed a bunch of episodes there. But then years later I got to be reunited with him because he was the executive producer and director of my show over at ABC splitting upp together. Yes, and then I got to come and do a guest spot on your show. and I got to see Dean in our sound apartment. It was like a mini office reunion. I loved that day It was a fun day. It was All right, fast fact number three The history of dueling What What? Oh no. what is your search history on your computer? Oh no First of all I would just like to say I am not a historian I'm just a lady with Google. You're just a delightful lady that loves to Google. That's right But I did read about four to five what seemed like reputable websites on the subject of dueling. Okay. And here is what I have pulled together Okay Dueling seems to have originated in medieval Europe Noobbles would defend their honor in man to man battles. Well, listen, if you watch Outlander, you know that's true Dwn, but I Sassank Oh. Well, in seventeen seventy seven, a group of Irishmen codified the dueling practices They wrote a document of rules and listen to what they called it. They called it Code Duelo Good at Duelo P're prettyty sure that's the type of dessert you can get. I'll have the cod dwello, thanks I love the lemon flavor. It consisted of twenty six very specific rules outlining all aspects of the duel, including the time of day during which challenges could be received The number of shots or wounds required in order to win. I feel like Dwight would have known these twenty six rules of dueling because he had the forty rules all shrep boys have to learn before they're five. He loves rules. I feel like Dwight knows about these dueling rules He must, right? He suggested the duel. Oh, I'm sure he knew I'm sure that some of these rules have made their way into the Shroot life. Io the Shrut forty rules? Yes The first recorded duel in America place in sixteen twenty one in the Massachusetts Bay Colony. Okay. And then America created their own dueling rules Oh They were written by South Carolina Governor John Wilson in eighteen thirty eight So In a typical American duel Each party has to act through a second I know this from the musical Hamilton Everyone. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh like you have your partner that goes with you. Yes. You have your butt in. That's right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And don't you get to bring like a medic, like a doctor Oh, that's an outlander. Never mind That that was J Jamie would bring Sasanac with him. Okay, never mind. go I don't know about that I only read four to five websites Okay. If we have a historian, perhaps they would know You should watch Outlander, but don't watch it with your children around. Okay So listen, if a man felt like his honor had been insulted, he would tell his second To challenge the offender to a duel. you do not do it yourself. You send your second The main duty of the second is to try to create a reconciliation to avoid violence. Oh, so that person's like the mediator. Yeah, I mean, they're literally doing what all therapists tell us not to do, which is to triangulate communication in order to You know solve conflicts, but whatever, this is dueling. I'm the second in my family. I'm often the person sent in to smooth over the other stuff I think a lot of people have that position in their family. I get it But if the second goes and said, hey My guy is offended by you and wants to doel And the person says, great, we're dueling The recipient of the duel challenge gets to pick the weapons and the time and the place of the duel So for example James Shields An Illinois attorney general challenged future presresident Abraham Lincoln to a duel. Oh my Lincoln accepted the duel and he chose The broad sword as their weapon James Shields was like, what the F That's insane Never mind Forget it and he called off the duel. So like bold move by Lincoln. Lincoln's like, I'll show up and I'm bringing my sword the duel. Do you want it? Lincoln was like, I'm tall and I'm a swordsman. Yeah James Shields was like, never mind You know what, I'm good? You know what? I thought about it And I'm okay Here's one This one really got me. I guess Andrew Jackson was very famous for dueling. No lotots of duels this guy. Experts placed his number of duels maybe as many as a hundred. A hundred Was Andrew just pissing everyone off? He was just pissing everyone off. Everyone wanted to fight him. His most famous duel was with Charles Dickinson Not to be confused with Charles Dickens, the writ. Oh I was gonna say. Did you see my look on my face? I was like, wait, wait, what? Yeah. No, Charles Dickinson, he was a horse breeder And I guess these two guys hated each other Dickinson accused Jackson of cheating on a horse bet and he challenged Jackson to a duel Jackson was like, I'll be there. The weapon is pistols But here's the thing, Dickinson was like known to be one of the best shots in the nation So I don't know why Andrew Jackson picked pistols, but he did. I think maybe that was just, I don't know, some swagger or something, right So they show up They duel. Yeah. Dickinson got off the first shot It hit Andrew Jackson in the chest. He's bleeding from the chest. Okay. All accounts are that he like held one hand to the wound lifted his pistol, fired at Dickinson, his pistol Misfired, it didn't shoot. Oh. So Andrew Jackson recocked his pistol, fired again and killed Dickinson This was very controversial, Angela. In the rules of dueling, you only get to fire once. That's what I was gonna say, Arenn't you one and done? And I know nothing about dueling, but I was pretty sure that's the case. Thank you, Hamilton Andrew Jackson lived, he got away with it, and was later elected president of the United States I have a question. What is it? If you're Charles Dickinson, Yep, you see Andrew Jackson pointing his gun at you, right? fire Do you run a zigzag? Can you step out of the way or do you just have to stand there fingers crossed it doesn't hit you. Is there no movement allowed? Can I not jump around I don't know I don't know Becauseuse I'm not gonna stand in one place. if you're pointing a pistol at me, I'm gonna get moving Yeah I think you're not allowed, Ange O The last del Of record in the United States was in eighteen fifty nine Okay. Here's who it involved Was it more white men shooting at each other? It sure was, lady. Not only that, it was a United States Senator and a retired chief Justice of the California Supreme Court No Way to go guys. No one died in this duel because listen to this madness. One guy's gun jammed And then the other guy fired his gun, but it hit the other guy in his gold pocket watch and they called a truce There you go That was the last duel in America. All right. now If Andrew Jackson was there, he would have unjammed his gun and shot at you again. Right. I would like to say I don't know who Andrew Jackson's second was, but I think they did a real stittady job What about Dickinson's second? Dickinson's second tried to make a case. that you know, Andrew Jackson, I think should be tried for murder, but no one wanted to hear about it. Very interesting I liked all your dual trivia. Thank you. I enjoyed researching my dual trivia. There is just a part of me that would do a history podcast with you, but we get everything slightly wrong. Well, we're already doing that I'm sure there are at least twelve things I did wrong in this fast factack number three You know what? It's like our version of drunk history, but we're not drunk. 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He's running, he's screaming There is a speed radar sign and he keeps running past it, trying to see how fast he can go That's what Michael's doing this morning. That's what Michael's doing. And we're all wondering why, well, Pam shares Angela has apparently called nine hundred eleven several times to report cars going too fast outside on the road. And so the police came and put up this sort of like that radar screen, right? that tells you your speed. Yes. Well, I guess though, this was a really hard scene to shoot. Really? Yeah Dean told me that we had to shoot this in two different places So anything that you see out the window, of Michael running, we had to shoot that from Paul Lieberstein's office. because that was the window that looked outside onto our parking lot and onto our street Of course, everything else that was indoors, we had to shoot inside Dunder Mifflin And by the way, this is going to come up again later. Yeah. So Dean told me that for that opening moment where Pam is on the phone and then the camera pulls back into Michael's empty office and then it whips over to the window and you see Michael running. He had to use one of those whip cuts So he shot Pam pull back into Michael's office, and then he whipped to a window that just had like a scrim behind it, right? Becauseuse that's what Michael's office really has Yeah, yeah, on our set. there's nothing behind his window. Yeah Then he went up to Paul Lieberstein's office, he did another whip. and then had Steve run by outside and he did that thing where he cut in the whip and put it together. That's movie magic guys. Movie magic. Now, I guess everyone has decided they want to know how fast they can run It feels like Michael has forced us all outside to run past this sign. Dwight is very enthusiastic. He's happy to run past it. He runs past, and he gets a speed of thirteen miles per hour Yes Well, Jenna, do you notice how we're all just like, we're so cold and we're like shivering. But truly the guys are like sweating their butts off? Oh yeah. I went to because I'm just an old lady who loves to know what the weather was clearly become my parents because at my parents' house, the TV is always on and it's always on the weather channel. If you need to know what the weather is anywhere, just call my mom. She'll tell you So I dug into my digital clutter and found out, we shot this episode the week of october thirteenth in two thousand eight and the average temperature was in the nineties for this week Randy told me that yeah, not only was it over ninety degrees that day, but we had to schedule this scene to shoot right after lunch Oh, gross So we all had these full bellies and like the sun was right directly over us. Yeah. But he said luckily it only took a couple of hours to shoot I lucky for us Oh my, I always felt bad. This is the one moment I felt bad for the guys because we froze our butts off on the stage. The ladies did. We were always in less clothing. But then when we were in these parking lot scenes and they're in full suits And they are sweating their butts off and running with full stomachs of food Yeah. I have to imagine we were pretty comfortable out there in that ninety degree parking lot. I was probably fine. We were great So it is hot and they're running past this radar gun. you know, Dwight scored to thirteen and Michael wants to beat it And so he starts running again and a car goes by and all of a sudden Michael Clock's thirty one. And he's like, yes. And everyone kind of calls BS on that Yes, Well we got a lot of questions about how did we technically pull this off, right with these speed numbers? Randy shared with us that the machine just worked. It was actually clocking people's real running speeds and the real car speed But then he shared with us the reason we did this cold open, was inspired by one of our writers real life Experience. Yes Aaron' S sure you guys, Aon' sure is like always coming up with these great cold opens and I talked with him He is so hilarious to me, Jenna because he's like, I guess my real life is just weird enough that it translates into a great cold open. Prior to working on the office, Erin had been working on The New Adventures of Old Christine. It was a show on CBS. Yeah, with Julia Louis Dreyfus. Exactly They filmed on the Warner Brothers lot and he said on the Warner Brothers lot, there was this radar gun And he was walking back from lunch from the commissary with some of the other riders, and as he walked past the radar gun It said zero. So he was like, o yeah. So he set his lunch down, backed up and he ran as fast as he could by it Surprisingly, it clocked twenty miles per hour. That is his memory. No, That is his memory He said other writers were like, Wait, I want to try this. They backed up and they started running past it as well. And He said it was a very sweaty writer's room that afternoon is incredible. So he told this story when he came to the office. And they were like, oh my gosh, like this is something Dwight and Michael would do. For sure After we were done filming this, they moved that speed meter onto the parking lot near Catering. And it sat there for the whole week of production Well, I guess it was too tempting to ignore Oh no. Randy said that one day during lunch A bunch of the writers went down and they started sprinting past it. Here we go again Then I guess there was an accident lady What Remember our writer, Ryan Co Yeah It remember an accident. Yeah, Randys shared that Ryan ran past the speed meter And it didn't go well Oh no. So I reached out to Ryan the story and lady, I did not tell you this because I think you need to hear it from him directly. When he emailed me I literally shouted, Oh no. I was reading his email He's calling in, lady tell us this story. Oh my gosh, Ryan. All right, here he is So Ryan, you were a member of the writing staff in season five. You wrote business ethics, you wrote heavy competition But the reason you're calling is because you have a story to tell. Yeah, I guess so So the cold open of this episode is Michael and Dwight running at a your speed is like one of those signs that gets you to slow down on on streets Right, right. We had spoke to Eron Sure about this. So we remember it well and we did not know you We're also part of the speed racing. Oh, yeah. so I should say Randy Cordre said that after we finished shooting this scene, the speed tracker in the parking lot and a bunch of people, writers and crew all decided to go down and do this thing where you run past it and you were one of the people who wanted to run past it Absolutely. Yeah, I was like a stff writer in season four and still like felt insecure about being there in season five And this is my chance to prove everyone that I was at least the fastest. You were the fastest wrider. This was your moment.. But you ran track in high school, right? I was sick in New England in the hundred in sort of our very small division Oh my Godd, Ryan, Sixth in all of New England? in the very small schools. But yes. So I was like, I'm going to beat stupid these stupid old writers So tell us what happened I rewatched the cold open this morning And so like Steve and Rain ran like twelve and thirteen miles an hour. Yeah, ye. And then a cou a couple writers ran and they all got like twelve miles an hour. and then I was like Oh, I can beat that. So I had on Cordurys and like Chuck Taylor's You were just in your work clothes. You weren't like dressed to run. You were just in what you wore to work that day. Well Randy just poked his head up and said, like Who wants to run at a speedometer? And I'm like, yeah So yeah, I like really waste I mean, they're They're sort of loose fitting chucks and that's sort of like a slip on shoe. Anyway, I lace them up really tight And then I started running And I have this memory like it was yesterday of I don't know if you ever had this experience where you're running fast and then There's no ground beneath your feet and you're just sort of wind mill in your feet with no ground underneath it. And then I very clearly remember ing well, not clearly because I don't remember exactly, but it was like seventeen or eighteen miles an hour. before I like into the air which prereference is like getting thrown out of a golf cart U, notot too bad. And then So like my My quarter eyes totally shredded shredded off my legs I landed on my elbows. forearms And Dan Gore, who was one of the people watching, said you could tell I was really hurt because I immediately popped off the ground and said like, I'm fine, I'm fine. This is what people do when they're really hurt. But you were pretty hurt. The medic did have to come over, right? I did get really mummified. I had to go to a My cousin's wedding like an hour afterwards Oh no they used You know, like that That gauze, not even like bandage, but You know, that gauze that you can see through. R And they wrapped it all around my arms and legs, which are pretty skinn And then I got on the plane and then When I arrived in Portland, I went into the drugstore and bought a ton of like nonstick gauze and stuff. and then I had seen that all the scabs had formed like in the bandage. anyway So I stood in the shower for like an hour just unwrapping my mummified arms and sort of yelling in pain My my God. rightight after I fell I remember Randy immedately was like, Allright, let's put this away. No one else, no one else, you know, they didn't one another idiot filing a lawsuit against the office P it? I hurt myself. I still have scars on all four of my limbs Oh my God of this decent story But you won, you won, you got the fastest speed. So there's that. I don't think anyone would call me the winner, but sure, I do believe sort of I will definitely vouch the fact that I got the fastest speed. I mean I help by disqualifying everyone by getting it removed. Maybe that was my strategy. G a high speed and then mangle myself So they get rid of the speedometer. Ryan, thank you. for coming on office. You're welcome and telling your story We're going to hit you up for some trivia about heavy competition when we get to it, if you don't mind. Okay, sounds great All right. loveove you starting to. takeake care.. Thank. Bye. Bye Oh my gosh, this is like It's Art imitating a life Life, imitating art and art back to life. Is that it? This is crazy. Do you remember early in the podcast when you said life intimidating art? I do, Jenna. I do. It feels like life said to Ryan Coe, I'm gonna intimidate you by throwing you to the asphalt. Life is intimidating art. I think so. Life threw Ryan to the asphalt in a very intimidating way based on his art Oh man Well, that is the cold open, you guys, and we haven't even gotten to the episode yet. Let's get into it because this is a big day It's a big day for Michael because David Wallace wants to meet him and talk to him about big picture stuff Michael doesn't really know what that means robably bad Also a big day because Pam makes an announcement New Ye, new candy, hot tamales Did you notice at one minute fifty seconds? Pam has dark nail polish I did not Oh yeah, I took a picture to show you. And then I did a weird mini dive I want you to see, I'll put this in stories, but you gott to see. lookook at your nails How did I get away with that? Why did they let me do that No because I will just say that if I ever came in with a nail polish That wasn't a natural looking nail polish, they would make me take it off in the trailer in the morning I don't know how this fell through the cracks Remember this nail polish on you? Is this so weird? What is it? I looked up on the internet and it said in the fall of two thousand eight One of the big trends in nail polish was gray nail polish. In fact Collegecandy dot com said the OPI Sephora had a very popular color called Metro chic, which was a matte purplish gray Well, I think we all know Anything, I'm on trend Hey, you know the fashion. I do I really do I think you got some metro chic and put it on your nails for the weekend. I have no doubt.atch it. I love OPI nail polish. I wear it all the time. I am certain that's what it was. I just can't believe I got away with it. You know, they would let Amy Ryan and Melaura Harden as their characters, they could have a darker nail polish They wanted Pam to always like either have no nail polish or just some clear nail polish I sneaked it in, I guess. Maybe I sat on my hands while I got my hair and makeup done that day Well, listen, Andy's going to come in and he's clearly upset about something He would like to address the elephant in the room. I love how Rain Wilson as Dwight chose to kind of stand up and get in a power stance. He's ready to fight because of course, we all think that he knows about this affair that Angela is having with Dwight. That's not what he says. He says No, none of you have RSVP to our wedding Awkward. In the deleted scenes, this scene goes on where he goes to every single person and is like, Hey Phyllis, you haven't RSVPed Jim, and everyone like pretends to be on the phone. Oho. You have this hilarious talking head where you're like you say, you've been avoiding him, and you can't look him in the eye, so you only look at his nose So then Andy comes up to you and asks you and you're just awkwardly looking at his nose and then he thinks he has something on his nose. It was really funny. The deleted scenes for this episode, I feel like every single one of them should have been in because they were all awesome U Jim says it's been seventeen days. It's been seventeen days since the Christmas party. when Phyllis filled the beans Everyone meets in the break room except Andy, and Michael says he's gonna to tell him He has to tell him And of course, everyone's like, you can't. It's really Angela's responsibility. And then I loved the exchange between Oscar and Dwife I know. I was anticipating it as you were about to say it And just the fact that the whole group starts learning we're all Angel and Dwight have shagged in the office We had a fan question from Jess R. who said Who wrote the moment in the Bak room when Dwight implies he's been doing it with Angela on Oscar's desk? and was any of that scene improvised No None of it was improvised. It was all scripted by Genilata This scene takes us into accounting, and Angela's kind of giving it to Kevin that he's screwed up again And then there's some real Kevin assass Oh, it's great. Oh my gosh. He's like I didn't realize I was doing something wrong If I had, I would have admitted it and stopped right away. He really leans in hard on this moment And Oscar gives him props. He's like, No, that was really good. You did a great job. Congratulations. Jenna immediately after the scene in the script There's a very angry Angela talking head And it's pretty amazing because Angela is so furious that she breaks the fourth wall and berates the camera documentary crew and then flashes them some of her shouldter. Really Yes, Sam, will you play it It's just so important for you to get your big story, isn't it to edit everything together. to make it look like there's a villain Well, there's not always a villain Sometimes there's just a hardworking, petite woman trying to make a conscientious decision about the rest of her life Too boring. Did I lose you Is this what you want? Okay, that was amazing, but I have to say I think it was right to cut it out because I don't know if we've ever much direct conversation with the documentary crew before. if we've ever refard so much to what they're doing I was shocked when I watched it, Jenna, because she was like, is that what you want? You're gonna to edit this together, You're gonna make a villain. And also it was a little bit too sophisticated for Angela Martin to understand the whole process of a documentary and how they tell it through narration in these moments. So I think it was the right move to cut it, but I was shocked when I saw it, I had to share So Angela, I love this episode because there's just so much tension And it plays out so slowly over when or whether or not Andy is going to figure out that Angel is having an affair So he has this exclamation on the phone And everyone's like, but it's really just about the cake. He's just having an issue with the cake But this leads to that Dwight talking head because Dwight is on guard this whole time. He's like constantly leaping out of his chair. Yeah And he kind of explains that there are these forty rules that all shreet boys must learn by the age of five and one of these rules is like, don't put your back to a man who you've wronged That's just one of the forty rules Mhm. Don't turn your back on a bear or a dominant turkey during mating season Yeah, there's a lot of things you shouldn't turn your back on. And then he has this little jingle that he sings Now, Angela, is it true? that Rain improvised that song No, that was in the script. That was one hundred percent written They shared in the DVD commentary that Rain was singing the jingle a few different ways. And then Dean asked Jen, Jen, how did you hear it when you wrote it? She sort of sang it her way and they found it in the moment. So they found the melody, but the words were written The words are totally written. They're in the script. This is like fabulous Genilada writing. They just improvise the melody Got it Well, now Dwight is going to signal Angela to meet him in the hallway. He does this by moving his little bobble head to the other side of his desk Yes He's going confront her. He wants her to tell Andy the truth And Angela has a line on it that really made me laugh. She's like, this is a terrible idea, one of your worst. And then he's like, just get it over with. And then Angela says, you're expanding on your worst idea That just really made me laugh Well Michael is leaving now, and he asks Andy to walk with him Yeah, he's gonna do it. He's gonna do it He can'not do it. This is like true, Michael. likeike he can'not. The scene is so funny It's so funny I mean, it's so perfect You know, I believe Angela originally in the scene, he is supposed to tell Andy before he got in his car Yes, it's scripted that he tells them outside of the car But on the day They came up with the idea that it would be really funny if Michael was in the car and then he sort of says it through the window as he's driving away. and that is so good. Yes. So in the commentary, Dean said he had the idea in the moment that the scene takes place with Michael in the car And then Steve sort of built on that and was like, what if Michael really doesn't want to tell him? so it's kind of like as he's pulling away? And then Dean said that Steve really pilled out of the parking lot. They did not add that sound in in post. That's actually the car peeling away. Oh That's amazing Well, we had a fan question from Maria M about this scene She said, is there a production related reason why the vehicles in this episode all appear so dusty and dirty And when I went back and looked at it, yes, they're all covered in grime. Yeah, they're filthy I asked Randy Cordre about it and he said, Yes, Maria G Iy to detail, all of the cars were purposely dirtied by the scenic painting crew using flour and water And this was meant to simulate what cars might look like during a typical scranton winter. from just road grime and salt And snow. Yes. When snow gets dirty looking, right? And it's on your car. Yes. And that the cars in the parking lot belonged to our crew members, and any crew member who volunteered to park their car in the lot got a free car wash every Friday Oh, how about that? So during the week, they'd have to drive around with a grimy car, but on the weekends, you got a fresh clean car. 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Yeah set This week we were shooting the duel and I look Kate dressed as Meredith and I thought, o my go. Did I make a terrible mistake? I thought it was fashionable. I wore that same vest over this like Big poofy white blouse with big poofy shoulders. This was the style. What? It was actually it was a really expensive vest. It was like Betsy Johnson or something. Can we do a side by side of you and Meredith? We must. Jenna in real life has the same fashion Choices is Meredith? Lady, look, here's a picture. Look at it. ee First of all, you and John look fourteen years old. We have to put this photo in Office Ladady stories. You are wearing Meredith's sweater vest and John looks like he could host Blues clues. He's in like a stripey polo. Yeah, oh my God, you guys look fourteen years old. We were doing press at this NBC experience store showhing off all the new office merchandise. Meredith called, She wants her sweater vest back. gosh Weready done the event You know Well, you could have heard a pin drop when Andy walked back into that bowl pin And he goes over to Angela and says, we need to talk And she's like, we can talk right here No played it so real Uhm I was sweating I was sweating it. I like I felt it We went to that conference room and he shut the door And we were in there a long time. and Ed broke my heart Mhm. Andy when he was like, Do you love him Thehe And I was really feeling all of this emotion Angela has to make this plea, this plea to him to donon't give up on us And Jenna It was all going great until we got to two words forormal Pryanthemums C it Formal chsanth syoms,r foral formal chsanth Fal chrysanthemums. I really had to break it down to be able to say it. But you need to say it like it's effortless, but I literally was like going formal Chryanthemums You know what, lady, that is not anything having to do with your accent or you. I challenge anyone to say that word. I can't chrysanthemums chrysanthem. it quickly. guys and here' nal chrysanthemums That was my best effort. by the way. I mean, literally Gin Silata had to come in the room. and help me break it down Try saying it quickly while you're like throwing it away like you have no problem saying it in a speech where you're pleading to save your relationship And you know what? it wouldn't have worked any other flower. That's the funniest flower. It had to be that I know Well, while this whole Andy and Angela scene is going on in the conference room, There's a flip side. to what's happening. It's everyone in the bullpin watching. It was deleted for time. It's so great and I really feel like the list summed up the whole moment perfectly Phy, whyy is it taking so long? He found out his little angel's been screwing the beet farming weirdo. He's trying to make it make sense in his brain, and then he's going to come out here and kill you Thank you, Pyllis Oh yeah, she got it. Wh should it stay in Well, this takes us to corporate. Andy and Angela are going stay in the conference room. They're not done. But meanwhile, we cut over to corporate and we see the reason why David Wallace has called Michael in. He says to Michael Scranton is outperforming the other branches Everyone else is struggling And we want to know What are you doing right? What is Michael doing so right I mean everything in Michael lit up like a Christmas tree. He's like David Wallace wants advice from me And then he starts talking Oh, Jenna, I have to read it. Can I please read it? Please read it And the minute he said, David, here it is. My philosophy is basically this, and this is something that I live by, and I always have and I always will. Don't ever any reason, do anything. to anyone For any reason ever No matter what no matter where. or who you are with or where you've been, ever any reason Whatsoever What is he saying? What is he saying? I went to the script This was not scripted. What? There was a different moment There was the same thing where he sort of started to talk nonsense I think Steve was also improvising here. I think he went off what Jen had and then I think they let Steve do his thing And now his talking head where he says sometimes I start a sentence and I don't even know where it's going. Ill just find it along the way, that was one hundred percent scripted. The improversation? Yes. That was all exactly scripted, but this answer to David I think was a little bit on the page and then they just let Steve play. I love it This little scene between Michael and David Wallace was important story wise because it's really starting to set up economic struggle slash decline of Dunder Mifflin, which is going to play out in future seasons as branches start closing, as we get bought out by saber, spoiler alerts. I guess you're supposed to say that first. Yeah, that's supposed to come first. And also you start to learn that David Wallace might be in a precarious position. Yeah. So we made it a comedy moment with Michael suddenly giving advice to David Wallace But this was also setting up a broader story that we will play out. In the DVD commentary, Dean said one of his notes for all of the Michael David scenes in this episode was no matter what. Michael won't leave the office, no matter what Well, that makes sense because he suggests they order some pasta And then my favorite thing is like after that pasta eating scene where Michael is still just going on and on and on David Wallace kind of gets up and then Michael keeps eating his pasta and David is like, no, yes, go, I guess, just finish finish your meal there And yeah, maybe like pats him on the shoulder and shuts the door and sits back down. Well, when we get back to the office Angela and Andy are still in the conference room. She needs him to know that her and dwight did not do anything fancy sexually Well, Dwight tells Michael something very differently about their sex life earlier. Oh my gosh, I can't believe we didn't bring that up. That made me laugh so hard, Angela Yes, Michael is all asking Dwight like if she crazy in bed. Crazy in the sack? Is she crazy And Dwight's like, yes. And then Michael is like, how? How is she crazy? And Jim is standing there. Yeah, Jim was like, Oh God no, no. And then Dwight says eager and flexible Lady, is that in the script? Was that an improv It's one hundred percent scripted It was so good All of those beats. That made me laugh out loud. Some of John's reactions as Jim are improvised, but everything else is scripted Well, Angela doesn't tell Andy any of that stuff. She just says she loves him And when he leaves the conference room He tells Dwight It's over. It's over and he means over between you and Angela, not me and Angela. He's still gonna Ggeula Well, Angela made a big case. She was like, listen, we're at a crossroads here. Let's prove all these people wrong Dwight makes a big declaration that Bernard will never be her last name They are going to stay together. He is not going to give up Jenna, this was a much longer scene. And when Dwright says a duel, will'll have a duel over Angela. The winner gets Angela Stanley can't take it anymore He's going to call BS And he has this great moment We're not doing that. Hang on, Pam. Andy, do you fully understand that the prize is Angela So help me God, I do And Dwight, do you fully understand that the prize is Angela? I do I give them both guns. Family. Darwin, baby. Darwin baby, Darwin. I just love that moment Pam turns to Angela and is like, you have to stop this Angela says I will respect the results of the duel So Yeah, I remember us shooting this moment, Jenna But in my mind, There was more to the scene. I went to the script And there was an alt of this moment where Pam confronts Angela didnid't make it in And you have a whole speech and I called it preach, Pam This takes place in the break room Okay, Angela what? put a stop to this I admit at first I was blaming you for being selfish and dishonest But then I decided to put myself in your shoes I didn't ask you to do that G it You're having a hard time choosing between Twight and Andy for reasons that you must have about that. you have to make a decision, Angela Who would you rather go home to at night? Who would you rather wake up with in the morning Marriage is a big deal, Angela. Who do you see as the father of your children Who are you most proud of Wh's most accepting of your Qirkiness I don't see how any of that matters now. Why not? Two men are about to fight for my hand When it's over, I will respect one of them and pity the other. Decision made. Wow I mean Pam like really tri to show up for Angela in this moment, tried to empathize with her and what, you know, you guys are hearing it, but if you watch it, if you go to the deleted scenes on the DVD You see all of this emotion go across my face I'm clearly torn and It just really showed something you don't get to see that much in this. You only see little moments that Angela is really struggling Yeah. Well, Angelo, when I was trading messages with Jn Slata about this episode She was very complimentary of your performance. Oh She said that this episode was tricky And a lot rested on how your character would react to these two men dueling over her. She said she was really worried Like, how do you convince people that you would accept the results of a duel It's so crazy Yeah. And she said, you know, there was this scene that really shows you stuffing down your real feelings. But she said that you were able to play it so perfectly in just your one line in the bullpen We so believed that your character would accept the results of a duel. that it grounds the whole episode. And she was so grateful for your performance Oh my gosh, that's so nice. Yeah you, Jen. Well, you know, what I thought about Angela is that She really loves Dwight. She really thinks Andy is a better partner for her, like socially, sort of acceptable and all of that And she's really struggling about what's the right thing to do in her life And the duel for her is actually a relief because now she doesn't have to decide. To her, this is like an institution that will decide for her and she's off the hook And I think that's why she was so willing to accept it We had some people write in wondering, were you secretly Rootinging for one man over the other? Do you think Angela Martin was secretly rooting for one person I think she was hoping Dwight would win of her. I just have this feeling that on paper, Andy Bernard is more presentable to her family Right? and makes more sense to Angela Martin's family and that they would be more accepting and more willing to embrace Andy Bernard than Dwight Shrut And so I feel like she could go to her family and be like, Well, Dwight bested him in a duel. So you know Clearly, Dwight is the dominant man and I have no d that Y your whole family would accept the result a duel. And I have to go with that. So you know. I mean, I know we all thought Andy was the one But I don't think Angela ever thought Andy was the one and So I think she thinks her family would accept it too. Is that crazy? but that's what I was thinking. Yeah, so she's rooting for Dwight to win this duel becausecause she loves him more and because it would help gain acceptance with her family Exactly. Well this duel is happening It is happening in the parking lot. at four PM. Bring the weapon of your choice. Yeah So It's four o'clock. The duel is beginning Dwight's outside in the parking lot. He's yelling. Andy, where are you? You know? he's like, are you a coward Everyone else is upstairs watching. fromom the conference room Angela's saying I can't believe two men are fighting over me. And then Kelly like has a dig. She's like, Well, I guess when you're old, you run out of options or something like that That's really funny Yeah Oscar doesn't think Andy's going to show and they're actually kind of placing bets and Kevin's like, come on But then Dwight sees a note on some bushes. Yeah. He goes over to read it. What is this? Now what's this note about While he's reading it, Andy does show up Ver slowly. Very quietly in his prius Well, you know, Jenna? Jen had that one sentence that she had to write this whole episode off of, right? about the duel This was Paul Lieberstein's idea about the Prius. He said, if you go under five miles an hour, it's totally silent And so This is the weapon Andy chooses. Yes. He is going to pin Dwight against the bushes. He's going to crush him. But really, he's only crushing like from his kneecas down But he's pinned. I mean, Dwight can't move. Dwight can't hit him with his bike chain anymore So he starts slamming it on the hood of the car. They're screaming at each other. eighteen minutes, sixteen seconds Rain shared on the DVD that during this whole screaming match between the two of them Did they improvise for about forty minutes? Dean said at least forty minutes. insults and banter back and forth at each other Dane said there was so much good stuff U, I wish we could see that. The forty minutes of them yelling. I would watch it. I sure. A. They're probably amazing. Well, we got a lot of questions about how did we do this scene? How did we do this stunt? Who was driving Yada, yada Well, I talked to Dean and he said this was really complicated because we had to shoot this scene over two different days from three different locations First, we shot in the parking lot with Rain and Ed. They performed the whole thing. We shot it. And the rest of us were upstairs in Paul's office looking out that window and the camera could whip up to us In real time. In real time. We watched all of it Then They moved the cameras up to Paul's office to get really tight shots out of the window onto the action below And Rain and Ed had to do it all over again just to get a few little shots through the window But then on a different day, we shot inside the actual Dunder Miffin conference room. and this time we had to be careful to not shoot out the window because there was nothing there. It was just a backdrop And that we were basically looking at nothing, but Dean was shouting out all the action that had happened the day before Right He said this was the moment when being an editor on the show really helped him. He had kind of cut this whole thing together with a shotlist inside his head, and he just kept telling people, trrust me, trust me Trust me, trrust me He could see it, right? He could see it. He could see the whole thing. He said he planned all of these whip pan cuts Between the window, between us All of it And when he got in the editing room because he edited this episode as well, actually did all come together and it looked really, really seamless. Well, you have to think that Randy Cordreay was like, I knew it. I knew it. Yes, that Dean's editing was gonna come into play here. This is why Dean has to direct this episode But he did say it was a little grueling for the actors because we had to play these same moments over and over and over again, more so than we normally do And we had to make it seem like we were doing it for the first time every time Now as for the stunt, Mhm Randy told us that Ed actually drove the Prius silently through the parking lot He said they had stunt doubles standing by for the actual moment of impact. They thought that they would have a stunt driver actually drive into a stunt dwight. Right. And then after they were kind of squished, they would place rain into the bushes and Ed into the car. Yes But then on the commentary Didn't Rin say they just kind of ended up doing it themselves Actually, the commentary was Rain Wilson, Gen Silata, Dean Holland, and Rusty Mahmud, who is our first assistant director And they discussed that Ed actually drove intoer rarain very slowly and that it totally worked. And those takes of those guys actually doing it were their favorite. So those were the ones they used and they did not use takes with the stunt people Well, we also got a fan question from Samantha T who wanted to know was up with the fence? Like what was on the other side of it? Was it padding? Was it an actual fence Was the bumper of the car padded? Was rain really being squashed? Well, it was the real bumper of the car, and then Rain sent in an audio clip to tell us a little bit about the bushes Oh, I'm so glad you guys are doing the dual. Fantastic, one of my very favorite episodes And I always loved those episodes where white and handy got to go head to head. I just loved that. that subplot of that tension. and Ed Helms is so funny in this episode But you know what it reminded me of is in college, we studied clowning and Camedia del Are. It really is classic old old comedy, like back from Comedia de Larte and the Greeks and ancient clowning of two idiots going at it Over absurd in this case Lve and a prius It was so much fun to shoot. I don't remember a lot of specifics about it, but I remember the hedge had a lot of give in it so you could really pretend like you were pinned It was just a big mass of vines and it was actually very soft and comfortable. And I love that line about the bears in Scranton It's so fantastic So I guess Rain was quite comfortable being pinned against the bushes no complaints Well, I can tell you about those big giant hedges. One time Brian in a scene as Kevin nudged me, he thought it was a nudge. I went flying into them. I don't know if you remember that. I can't remember what episode, but I can attest to the fact that it's a very deep veryery sort of a hedge you could fall into without getting to the other side. Aha. So Well, the hedges might have been a good thing for Rang and they were a nice soft place to land. But they actually cause a little bit of a headache for our production So Rusty Mahmouud, our first assistant director, shared on the DVD commentary that we had about six hours a day to film these parking lot scenes. That's what they had allotted for the time. And by the time we got to the parking lot scenes on the first day of filming Big hedges had cast a shadow over half of the parking lot If you go and watch, Jenna, you'll see. Okay. there's a huge shadow Well now guess what? We needed to match that shadow exactly the second day we filmed. Yeah, right? So in order to do that, they had to create this fake shadow. We have fakey shadow. Fakey shadow. Fakey shadow. They used giant twenty by twenty bounce cards and positioned them behind the hedges on the street so that the shadow would cast and match each day we filmed in the parking lot. Gosh, those are things you just don't think about I know. but this is the amazing thing about Your crew, someone was like, o, hold up, that shadow is not going to match. We've got to recreate a shadow Amazing While Fakey shhadow wasn't the only fakey thing we had in this scene, we also had fakey bicycle chain Fakey bicycle chain. That's right. Carly Rain could not whip around a real bicycle chain. So Phil Shay had a rubber bicycle chain made and that's what Rain used as Dwight to hit the Prius and wave around So obviously a rubber bicycle chain is not going to make the same sound as a real bicycle chain on metal So all the sounds you hear are put in post, that whopping sound Ecept for the car horn Oh yeah. Ed was really blaring the horn I know. Poor rain. was really having fun with it too because he'd wait and blare it right when Rin started to talk Well, all of this mayhem is going on And Jim has a talking head where he's just kind of standing there and you can hear it all in the background. Oh yeah. So good Dean told me that they came up with that idea on the day. He said that as he and Jen Slata were standing there justust listening to these two guys go on. He thought it would be really funny to add that. So he and Jen came up with that and they positioned John and they just kind of added that in the moment It's so perfect because it's the voice of reason. It's this totally normal rational person. reacting to this moment of chaos and I feel like it lets the audience take a breath and be like, oh, yeah, this is crazy Well, in this argument Andy ends up revealing that he and Angela have had sex which is something that Dwight did not know Well, yeah, he says, I can't believe she's been sleeping with you this whole time and she's only slept with me twice I made a sex tracker Oh my God. I did Oh know Here's what I'm going to say, Angela. In the business trip episode. Andy told Oscar he had never had sex with Angela in the surplus Andy says he has seen Angela naked zero times.. So We have to imagine that either They've had sex twice Since the surplus Yeah They've had sex twice since business trip that while having sex, he never saw Angela naked. Which one do you think it is Fully clothed sex or naked sex recently You know what? Um I believe both. I believe that He could possibly have had sex with her, but she wouldn't let him see her naked. likeike she'd have some kind of like long gown on. But I also can believe that Do d why hoodwinked her into this fake wedding. that she was furious And she went and had some revenge sex Mhm. I think that's most likely, that's when they had their sex Well, Andy is going to return to his desk Dwight returns to his desk Cst fallen. I mean, Dwight feels betrayed and Andy feels betrayed. But who won the duel? Angela standing there She hears Andy make a phone call. He cancels the wedding cake. Yeah It's the one that was in the shape of a sailboat Yeah, that one that wedding cake. Jen said they did have an alt cake line where he would say it was the one in the shape of the letter C For Cornell. Oh. L like for cat I know. But They went with sailboats. Then Angela looks to Dwight. Did he win? M puts his Bobblehead in the trash Jenna, there was a deleted scene that comes after this where Angela goes up to Pam and she's teary eyed Her voice is wavering And she says, u Can you give me a ride home from work today? because I no longer a right home Yeah. Pam says yes And then her and Jim give Angela a ride home Oh my God, this car ride, we did shoot this scene. It's in the deleted scenes Angela just barks directions angrily at Jim And then she starts sobbing in the back seat and then she's angry again. Well, I'll never forget shooting this scene, Angela, because I mean, this was a whole location day for us, you know, We had this location that was your house and we just dropped you off outside. but they had this really funny joke that there would be like a dozen cats in your window staring out the window at you expectantly as we drop you off. And it was so funny It was so funny. I remember they, you know, they had to get a house with like sort of a big front window, like a bay window that all the cats could be in so that we could see them from the street. But then you guys, as we were trading messages with Randy Cordre about this episode, he sent us casting sheet of the cats and all their headshots. It's a sheet of like cat headshots. Yes, you guys. And here are the names of the twelve cats that played Angela's Cats potato. Prada C Flame Profit Whisper Milkman. Sush she Roswell Sy, Hannah and Milton And Roswell looks just like Sonny Cat. He does. My cat. Yeah