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There is also the other side of it where people do go too far. We've been there. You could have stuck me to a window. Yeah, exactly. Botox. Yes. Is it poison? Yes, it's poison. Let's talk about a filler. So you're gonna do lip filler with Sally down the road and you go in a garden shed and you do it. I would say you're just rolling the dice. They physically can't reverse that, which means the skin can die, your lip can fall off, you can go blind. Skin care step, you should never skip your retinol. So out of all the research there is, this is the only one that's proven to be anti-aging. Wow. Let's do some myth debunking. Derma planing. Don't just start shaving your face. Beef tallow. Don't put things on your skin that shouldn't be on your skin. Mouth taping. It actually changes your bone structure. Collagen supplements work beautifully. So you're actually a fan? I love poor vacuums. Absolute no. Let's talk about facelifts. What's the youngest person you know you've been aware of that's had a face of Hi dolls, welcome back to Olivia's house. This episode is brought to you by Shark Beauty. Gonna tell you a big secret now. Love me some skincare, love some injectables, uh, love some laser, an occasional surgical tweakment I might even throw in there. And I love it so much. I've made documentaries about it. I've tried most of the products. So I thought it would be a good opportunity to sit down, talk all things aesthetics, cosmetics, skincare, and actually get a professional to weigh in, rather than me just spouting what I think I know. So on that note, I would like to welcome Dr. Motox to Olivia's house. Woo! Come on . Thank you so much for having me. I think you at this stage you probably are an expert. You probably know know more than I do. Unlikely. Just the medical side. You do the reviews. I feel my knowledge is ample. I mean I I am a I that's why I wanted to do price perfection 'cause it's like I genuinely, apart from like liking having stuff myself, I think it's fascinating. I just I love anything to do with cosmetics, aesthetics. Um, we know each other, Dr. Mo. You've injected my knees. I've injected your knees. With salmon sperm. Salmon sperm, we did some morphe. We did some profilo in there. We did some profilo. We did a like we did a whole combi, didn't we? And actually they are looking very plump and smooth. We last saw each other though at one of my parties, the uh One of. One of. I think it was well, you were here at the Olivia House launch. Yes. When we opened the house. Which was incredible. Did you like it? It was great. It was an open bar. Like I don't know what else you could ask for. That's all we needed. Open bar, wall to wall pictures of me. I mean, I was very happy with it. Um so on that note, I'll I'll talk about the house. What would you like to leave at the door? That's our policy. When guest comes into the house, we leave something at the door. What are you just one thing? There's so many things I could leave at the door. Everyone's saying that this week. Okay. So many. No, but the main thing is I tell you what we're leaving at the door. Those Karen 's who, when I speak to them, the first thing they say as soon as they find out I'm Dr. Motox is I would never have any of that stuff in my face. And my answer is you're not my demographic. You're not the kind of person I'm reaching out to and that's fine. No one's forcing you to have this done. No. Absolutely fine. Do people send it to you into your face, or it's like online? No, to my face. Well, so if you say what you do for a living, oh my god, that's actually like oh that's fine. But that's fine, it's okay. But that but you don't need to educate me on what on what I do. My worst is when someone comes at me with a face like a map and says, I've never done anything. I'm like, bitch. Yeah. We fucking know. Like throw an LED mask on, do yourself a favour. The absolute basic LED mask. That's all you need for now. Literally, bit of moisturize, bit of sunscreen. Something. It's not yeah, it's not gonna hurt. Right, let's get into it. So yeah, so we're leaving those at the door. Leave it at the door, judgmental. Like and that I actually to be honest, I'll be sensible now. My take always on aesthetics and anything like that is like it's personal. Like it's it's it's you, your own what you wanna do, what your priorities are. So like I don't judge anyone for what they wanna do as long as they're safe and they've done their research, but I just think we should remove the judgment. Agreed, and that's the important thing is that you're doing it for yourself, you're making your own decisions, no one's making you do it. So I've got no place to judge. Like if you want huge, massive lips, yeah, I even I shouldn't really judge. You do what you want as long as you're having it safely, you're doing it correctly, you're not harming anyone, go for it. Absolutely. I think the hard thing is, and I've definitely battled with this myself in my 20s, I think in my 30s now I know a lot more my own mind, but it's trying to work out if you want something for yourself or if you have been influenced. That is that's the difficult part because you don't because you influence the funny thing because you don't know it's happening. It's happening to your subconscious. Like when I had the massive fate boobs when I was like 21, I looked like someone had blown me up with a foot pump. I now know I wanted those boobs because Jordan, Katie Price, Pamela Anderson, or like the girl next door and Playboy Mansion. That's why I didn't actually know if they looked good on me or they suited me. I wanted them 'cause they had them. So as I'm older now, I'm like more thinking, okay, what do I want? What suits me. But did you love them at that time? I did for like I did it for like a year or two. You enjoyed it. You didn't harm anyone. No one no one was harmed in the making of Live Then and Now. My wallet when I had to get them out and get them made smaller. Right, let's get into it because we've got a lot you want to tackle today, and you're a very busy man. Um, let's do some myth debunking. Let's talk about filler . It's very conversational at the moment. Everyone's talking about everyone's kind of demonizing filler. Yes. Online. A lot of armchair experts. Yes. What are some top line positive negatives when it comes to dermal fillers? Dermal fill ers are incredible. If they're done correctly, if any treatment is done correctly, you should never ever know. No one should turn around and say, Have you had filler here? You should just look like the best version of yourself. If anything is done too much, if you take anything slightly too far, you go to the wrong person, have the wrong stuff injected, you will look like you've had it done. So I think those armchair experts are basing their expertise on bad work rather than on good work. Like one of the most common things that I get in clinic is or the one that I the example I give people is Michelle Keegan. Michelle Keegan looks incredible. She is stunning. And that's the first thing I will say to a lot of these people who tell me fillers look fake is what do you think Michal Key and that oh my god incredible and I'm like yes that's because she's had work done but had it done so naturally so well that you will never know. However there is also the other side of it where people do go too far. We've been there, right? You you know what it's like. You've been there, you know what happens. You could have stuck me to a window. Yeah, exactly. Not anymore. We've moved on. Um and I think it also follows trends. So a couple of years ago, there was a huge trend where everything was bigger. It was kind of like a status to have those big juicy lips. It looked like you had money, you looked like the celebrities. But now that has been that's all been taken back. So I think it's definitely been demonized and it's stayed with us that, but people are having it done. They're having it reversed, but they're also having it put back in. So everyone's going on this like reversal journey, having everything reversed. They're not having it reversed. They're having it reversed and put back in. I always say to my friends, I'm like perpetrators, who do this, who go on like I'm dissolving everything, but like they they leave out the bit where they're actually being reinjected, but well. And that is so annoying for me because people come to me and they're like, oh, this person. Dissolve everything I wanna look like. that You won't look like that. You won't look like that because she's just had it back, but done properly, and that's why she looks great. Is it true that I we're learning obviously more about dermal fillers, like in the last like we're we're kind of because they were in their infancy and now we're seeing what they look like in the body seven, eight years, nine years down the line. Is it true they last they can last longer than we thought? Phyllow does not dissolve. So we were all even as an injector, I was told these will diss disolsipate these will ve six months later, it's gone. But that doesn't happen. So, what happens is you put it in, it swells slightly, so you look a bit crazy. People usually enjoy the swelling for a couple of days, then it goes down. And then after that, your body does take a little bit of it away, but there's a little layer that never ever dissolves. It will always be there unless you have it injected and removed. Okay. Now what was happening is people thought six months later, people come back and chair like, oh, I had it on six months ago, it's all gone. And I'm like, Are you crazy? These are not what your lips look like. And then slowly we've realized that actually they don't dissolve. So the way that you do filler to make it look natural is you have a little bit of put in, you wait, you have a little bit more by slowly building up, you'll never look like you've had it done. And then the time frame increases. So people's lips, I don't see them really for like once every two years I might do someone's lips after we've built them up. Yeah. Because it just doesn't dissolve. I've not had follow my lips for easily two ye Yeah, and you won't need it. And they don't change, yeah. And they won't change. But th when we we talk about things staying in the boards and they don't dissolve, like I've had conversations with my friends and they're like freaking out of this information, you know it never dissolves. So I'm like but hold on a second if it's in the right place and it's not causing any problems like what it what's the issue you know what what I think is that people are there's a lot of misinformation around facelift surgeries, for example, like oh if you've got a filler you can't have a facelift. If in my knowledge from meeting and speaking to surgeons, any facelift worth his due in this day and age now should know and be able to operate with filler or around filler. And it doesn't stop surgeries. It doesn't they can remove it, they can leave it in. It depends on their basic their preference, doesn't it? Yeah, a filler's just a gel, right? So it's not a mile. Is it hyaluronic acid, which is what in layman's terms? So your skin naturally has something called hyaluronic acid in it, which is a gel. It absorbs water and it feeds it to the skin. So its job is to hydrate and give skin plumpness. Now over time you're you lose that naturally. Some older people have will filler to replace that, or you'll have products to replace that hyaluronic acid. So it's just a synthetic version of that same thing. Got yeah. So the most common things in filler are hyaluronic acid, and they come in lots of different thicknesses, super thin to super thick. And the other thing in there usually is a little bit of numbing, just to make it a little bit comfortable. So basically the thickness of the filler, it needs to be chosen by your injector to be correct for the correct part of your face? Correct. So for example, like something underneath your eyes, you'd have a super soft filler, because it's a delicate area. Lips, you want like a medium thickness filler, cause otherwise it'll expand and move. Things like jawlines and noses, you'd put something super thick because you're trying to mimic bone structure. Why are a lot of people unsatisfied with results of under-eye filler? Why is it such a difficult place to inject? So, yeah, under-eye filler is one filler that I am very careful with. You have to be the right person to have it done. A lot of people were misled mostly by social media many years ago to say you've had you'll have under-eye filler to reduce your darkness or your puffiness underneath your eyes. And it does not do that. You're adding volume. It's the water. See me and you can easily, yeah. But sometimes people don't. Okay, so people have been told the wrong things, so then they're expecting a different result from if you have puffiness and you put filler underneath your eye, it's gonna add more puffiness, it's going to look worse. So you see, loads of people have puffiness underneath their eyes, and it's there for years. I see people like 12 years later, they come back, they're like, I've had this puffiness. I was like, That's filler, yeah, and we dissolve we tak,e it out. So the only time you can have filler underneath your eyes is if you have deep hollowness. If you have a deep hollow, you put a little bit of filler in there, it lifts it up. It looks incredible. It will look smooth. But the other trouble with under-eye filler is if you inject it in the wrong area, if you inject it really superficially, so really close to the skin, it will go puffy. You will see it because it's a really, really thin filler. It goes bumpy and you get like this blue tinge and it looks awful. So it needs to be done by some one who's experienced, knows what they're doing, and you have to be the right patient or still. It's the thing I turn away the most is under eye filler. So when people come in, I'm like, this is not this is not what you need, you need something else. And you know they're not gonna be happy, they're gonna just keep coming back, and yeah. And under eye under eyes, there's three main problems, right? So number one is puffiness, yeah, number two is hollowness, so hollowness can make it look dark, especially in photos, and number three is the thin skin. When your skin is thinner, it's see through. So you see the blood vessel showing through, which then makes it look darker. So most of those things you can't do much. So the hollowness you can do a bit of filler. The thinness, potentially polynuclides to thicken it up. The puffiness, the only thing that really works are like depuffing devices. So for example, like the shark depuffy works beautifully for that because it just drains or just improves the lymphatic flow underneath the eye. With the chart de puffy, what is your favourite setting? Warm or cold? Cold. Right. Yeah. See, I like the warm to wake up my face. And that is exactly how you flow. Do you know what I mean? And then to go, if I was like, if I'd had a late night, whatever I'd probably go with the cold. And it gets really cold. It gets really cold. So it's got three settings and I was this pissing around with the ice bucket and all that malarkey. No waste of time. No more. Just plug it in. Off you can use. Botox. Yes. What is it? So Botox. Is it poison? Yes, it's poison. I'm sorry. It is. I think the stat is something like if you have like a gram or something it might be less um it can like kill like the whole population or something. So are you being serious? No no it's like really toxic. Really toxic. I it's so toxic. So it's made an island. Okay. And it's like flown all over the world. Random. Very random. It's made in Ireland. And when it gets flown um over to the US, it has two fighter jets with the plane. Are you being I never knew this? Yeah, it's serious stuff. So two fighter jets takes it all the way to the US, where then it's like packaged and done whatever and then sent all over the world. That's fine because it's so dangerous, the product on its own. It's a poison. It can it can it kill people. So is injecting it in our face unhealthy? No. We're fine. So that's so that's a contradiction then. And if it was, would you still have it? Yes. So would I. Um so what Botox is, the way Botox was discovered is it comes from a bacteria that causes food poisoning which paralyzes the stomach. Jesus. So then it was taken and then used medically to paralyze muscles for medical reasons. So for example, people with twitchy eyes, they used to put it there to relax that. People for bladder problems, it helps to tighten it up and allow you to control your bladder. And we use it we, use it s in so many different places now. And then from that, then the cosmetics came in. Okay. But all it does is it's a poison that paralyzes muscles. So it stops that muscle from being able to engage, contract. Exactly. And there's not that many places that you can't put it. The list is growing. There's new there's new things I'm learning about. I've had it in my traps. Yeah, love it. But obviously all over my face. Yeah. I've met a girl the other day and she was having it in her calves because she has like massive calf muscles that she was self-conscious of. Yep. And she was on her second like course of it, and she said her calves had reduced like literally by like 30%. And she already felt so much more confident. It's like it's crazy. It's crazy because now we use it for medical reasons and for cosmetic reasons. Yeah. And some of them are interlinked as well. So you can have it pretty much anywhere. Sweating incredible. My favorite treatment. It's the best thing I know. It's insane. How soon after home Botox could you resume your at-home skincare routine, use your devices? So I'd give it a few a little bit of time to settle. 24, 48 hours allow it to settle any devices that's really massaging and moving things around I'll probably give it a week or so but some devices for example your LED mask the shark cryo glow incredible give it about 24 hours and then you can use that because that is going to help reduce some of the inflammation and redness and just help healing. So that I actually recommend my clients to start using not long after they've had their treatments. Because the LED as well will help with bruising, recovery? Bruising, no, but it helps with blemishes, healing, and inflammation. Let's talk about facelifts. Let's talk about them. Obsessed. Facelift culture has changed dramatically. I'd say, would you say it's like over the last two or three years? I think the last two or three years it's gone absolutely mental and I think it's changed for who's having it done. Yes. I think the younger population are having it done. People in like their mid-thirties are having facelifts now. And I'm on board. We can speculate. Yeah. And we can't we can't say any more We can't confirm any. We can't confirm, but w speculating I'm looking at faces of like Anne Hathaway, Lindsay Loham. Yes. Emma Stone. Yeah. They're all people that a lot of surgeons have weighed in online and they are saying this is really well done surgery. Yes. See, because you look at them five years ago and the positioning of their soft tissue is like It's completely different. Yeah. So do you think this is something we're gonna see more and more of people opting for surger facial surgeries younger? And why do you think there's such a curve? I think people are seeing what you can actually achieve with surgery. You don't have to have that type of lift where it's pulled backwards. Where an older person generally will need that's pulled backwards. Younger people are pulling it upwards. And I think the reason is people want to look their best when they're younger. So generally it was facelift, oh you'll have it when you're 60, when you're when you're looking haggard, you lift everything up. I don't, I want to look good now. Yeah. And when I'm 60. And do you know this I've spoken to surgeons, obviously you recover better when you're younger. Correct. What's the youngest person you know you've been aware of that's had a facelift? Thirty. Thirty. Thirty. That's and what and w what did she have lax skin? Like 'cause there's a lot of a zempic face causing people wanting facelifts. What was her concerns that made her go for a facelift so young? So I actually had the conversation with her before she went, I was like, you don't need it, don't be ridiculous. Because it sounds so ex extretrememe. It is very . It is extreme. It's it's a surgery. But honestly, she looks incredible. So you're like, you can't I can't argue with it because she came back and she was like, What do you think? I was like, honestly, you you do look incredible. Because it is done slightly differently. So on a on a younger person, normally they'll do the one from the hairline. Okay. So where you go in and things are lifted upwards rather than backwards. So the brow lift, then the brow lift that you get from that is incredible. The results I'm seeing are honestly they're getting better better and better because the surgeons are getting better and better at it. And the downtime for it is getting lower and lower. Yeah. But I I'm I'm on board. I think people look great. If if it's gonna make you feel better, if it's within your budget and you think it works , absolutely go for it. Um but I think it's gonna grow. Yeah. People are definitely going down that down that route. Would you ever? Um yeah, a hundred percent. Yeah. Like those there's literally That was a stupid question. No doubt. Um yeah, it doesn't scare me, but I also I'm cautious of like not normalizing that you say to my younger audience, like surgery, surgery. So anytime you have to be put to sleep, you know, you are putting your life in someone's hands. There's so many things that can go wrong. I think the the the need for women you know we feel the need I feel the need we all feel to you know to to not show our signs of aging is is a misogynistic world that we live in unfortunately. And you know, men are kind of embraced and celebrated as they age and and women are treated, you know, like we're past our best and all the rest of it. So I think that I want to be really aware of that while also I want to look and feel my best. So it's like we went back to the beginning. It's like I want to always be doing things for myself and not because I feel like I have to or I should. When people tell me that the the thing I say to them is a really nice line is if you're not aging, you're dead. Yeah. That's the only time you stop aging. So aging is amazing. It we should be very grateful that we go down that rate. But we you can slow it down and you can improve things by doing little things and it doesn't have to be surgery, it doesn't have to be injectables. I know we love surgery, we love injectables, that's just that's is my job. We love it. Um but there are other things that you can be doing that will make huge differences at home just to slow things down without making you look like a different person. And I think that my thing and I know the word anti-aging is is kind of becoming is being weaned out of your industry slightly and it and it's kind of feels a little bit dated because I'm not interested in looking like I'm 20. No. I just want to look the best version of myself at this age. Like sometimes people write to me and be like, oh, you looked so much younger on Love Island. I'm like, yes, it was a decade ago. How old were you on? Twenty-four, twenty twenty-three? Like do you know what I mean? It's like, what do you want from me? So yeah, I s I've never tried or someone you know they might write to me and go, Oh, that haircut makes you look older. I'm like, fine, I don't care. I don't actually care about the age. I just want to look good. Yeah. Like I wanna look hard. You just wanna look the best version of yourself for for wherever you are at that stage. And that's where your home stuff is really, really important. Because it all supports each other. Absolutely. So if you do have a facelift, like for example, Chris Jenner's facelift, incredible, obsessed, but she's not just having a facelift. She's doing everything else in clinic and at home. We know she'll be using her mark. She'll be using her deep devices. She's having her facials. She's doing these things to support it. Without it, you will lose the results. I think this is something like a lot of people are catching onto now. And I always I' bmanging this. drum as well Like you said, you can lift skin, but if the skin is old, damaged by the sun, like it's you've not cared for it, you're still not gonna look good, you just want to look tighter, but looking after your skin, like you say, using your LED mask, protecting your skin from the sun, using your products, skin quality is like the first giveaway. 100% regardless of anything else. And there's things there's things that you can't use, it's imp impossible to lift without any a surgical procedure. Yeah. Well people come in all the time to me. They're like, can you just do this? I'm like, honestly, no. No. And if anyone can tell you they can non surgically, they're lying to me. They're just they're it's impossible. Talking of being lied to, it is the wild west out there. I've obviously I've seen the good, the bad, the ugly, and you know, unfortunately in the UK we do still have a lot of baggy guidelines around No guidelines. Yeah. Just trying to be like around aesthetics, who can do them, who should do them, all the rest of it. What would be your kind of top tips for someone before they go for treatment research wise? Where should they be looking? How should they vet their injector? So it that is a huge problem because there isn't really anywhere to vet your injectors if I'm honest with you. Hopefully that's going to come in in the next couple of years, but it's not there at the moment. But you will you just want to make sure one of first of all they're medically trained. Yeah. If they've got a medical background, they're going to know how to deal with complications because complications happen, things go wrong, and someone needs to be able to treat that and bring you back because things can go horribly wrong very, very quickly. When they're going well, fine, easy, but when they're going wrong, it goes really wrong. This is how I always say this. Sorry to cut you off, but I get I catch a lot of heat when I talk about this on Instagram and I I get obviously all the beauty therapists and people that do injections who are not medically trained, they all c start coming at me. And I was what I say to my friends is like when you do filler, say you do lip filler with the Sally down the road and you go in a garden shed and you do it. I would say you're just rolling the dice every time, and it every time it goes right, fine, lucky. But the minute you get an occlusion or a like a block vessel or something, she's not gonna know what to she can't help you. What she's legally not allowed to help you because she can't have the drugs to reverse it in her clinics, which is crazy. Because you you anyone can buy the fill and the Botox, but you need a prescription to get the dissolver. So the dissolver is a prescription medication. So I can hold as a as a doctor, I can hold it in my clinic without having a prescription. Um whereas the beauty therapists can't. And some of the beauty therapists don't get me wrong, they do some fantastic work. Honestly, some of the work I think of the could be better than mine. But if that goes wrong, they don't know how they won't, they physically can't reverse that, which means the skin can die, your lip can fall off, you can go blind, part of your nose can fall off. Yeah. And it's really, really, really scary. And I just wouldn't put myself in that position. Have you had people walk into your clinic or call up in dire situations? Yeah, I have. And it and it's scary and it's and it's a really difficult position to be put into . Um because I want to help and generally I will I will help. But it also puts me in a difficult difficult situation because I'm technically not really allowed to help according to my insurance. Because also you put you don't know what they've been injected but where it was injected. You're sort of like coming in like out late to the party and I'm hoping for the best. And then the problem is they they then're told to go to AE. The doctors in AE are not trained to reverse your to reverse your filler. They don't go to medical school to learn how to reverse filler. That's not what you go to medical school for. You learn to go save lives. Yeah. So you'll turn up at the NH S and they won't be able to help you as well. So it is very, very, very scary. So just make sure you're going to someone who is qualified, who has experience, who is on sort of some sort of register. So there's like the GDC, the GMC, the NMC, all of these registers have qualified professionals on them, which means if I do something wrong, I have someone to answer to, I could lose my title, I could lose my whole career. The beauty therapist down the road has no one to answer to. In fact, get away with it. Face you delete their Instagram page and disappear off the face of the earth. Absolutely. And I also think I would say to my friends is this applies for surgeons and um injectors. Don't let Instagram be your like complete and point of reference. A lot of people are stealing other people's work. A lot of people buy followers. Like, oh yeah, my friend, she's so this guy's got a million followers though. And I just looked at a page for two minutes. I said, They're all bought. They're all bought. I said they hasn't got a million followers. So don't let that be your point of comfort. Like you need to look a little bit deeper than just followers. And the the problem with social media as well now is super scary. What I'm seeing more now is ed we saw edited photos years ago, but you could pick it up because we could all see where things were edited. But now I struggle when someone shows me like an AI generated before and after. I know. I'm like, I is that real? Isn't it? Videos. V videos as well. Crazy. You cannot tell if the naked eye is absolutely terrifying. Okay, let's talk about skincare. Let's bring it back a little bit to uh routine. So the good stuff. The good stuff. The most important thing actually. Yeah. And the stuff that, you know, everyone can be doing at home in some form. What is double cleansing? Is it what it says on the tin? Kind of, but actually not j not totally. I'll let you off. So we'll let you off forever right now . So double cleansing is about washing your face twice. Okay. But it's not just that. So when I tell people to double cleanse, usually I get them to do at night. Okay. So in the day, the kind of makeup you're wearing, the skincare you're wearing, normally is oily. So if you try and wash something oily with water . Oil and water don't mix. So most of your cleansers are water-based. So it won't take it all off. So what you want to do is use oil-based cleanser first. Now the oil melts away your makeup, melts away the oil, melt melts away the SP F. And then you don't keep that oil on your face, because people always go crazy when I tell them to wash their face with oil. You then use your normal skin. I like oil based, because I've got dry skin. So then you But someone with like acne-prone skin. If I tell them to use it, they will wanna throw me off a cliff. Um so I get them to wash with oil-based cleanser first. Get the makeup off, get the SPF off. Exactly that. And then use your normal cleanser, your gentle cleanser, to wash the oil off. Got it. And that just makes sure that everything is removed, ready for whatever you're going to do. Whether it's your LED mask, whether it's your depuffing, whether you're just putting your retinols on, whatever it is, you just got to clean base skin. Because if you just use a cleanser, I can guarantee there's still the pores are still filled with whatever you've got on the Okay. That's actually that's that's not what I thought it was. So I I am humbled. There you go hyaluronic acid in a serum form, for example. Fan or no? Yeah, like I'm not against it. It's nice. If you're dehydrate, if you're someone who's dehydrated, you put hyaluronic acid on, it absorbs water, it feeds it to your skin. Your skin might absorb a little bit of it. Not life-changing, but really nice just to give you a bit of hydration. Vitamin C serum? Very important. Most people, not everybody, but most people should be using vitamin C. If you've got no skin concern s, you should be using a vitamin C. It's like an anti-aging product, it's an antioxidant. So no most people don't know what that is. But all that does, it just protects your skin from like pollution, UV, anything that wants to damage your skin, it just helps to protect protect it and give it a little bit of a barrier. So that's like one of the most important day serums you should be putting on your face. So highly recommend. Always a big talking point. Retinoles. The most after SPF, the most important thing to be put on your face is a retinol. Wow. Are you using a retinol? I use retinol, yeah. I use tretin. You look like using a retinol, that's why. Do I could? You're giving tre. I'm giving tre. You're giving tre. Um I've been on a journey with it and I've got a drier skin and I have to wear makeup every day for work. So it I it was finding a product and a way of using the product that didn't basically leave me with like peeling and peeling because I'm dedicated to skincare but I,'m also dedicated to the beep. Yeah. So for me, it was like using a very low percentage tread and I just use it like every three, every third night. I basically put it in and I pack a heavy moisturizer on top. And that's how I do it. That works. Could I up it a little bit? Yeah. Okay. What every night? If you can. Really? That's the idea. That's the idea. What is a tret or a retinoid for same the. Yeah, so people don't know. So a retinol is a vitamin A. So vitamin A comes in lots of different strengths. So you can get it as a retinol, a retinal, and a tretinoin. Okay. It's all the same thing. It's all the same thing. Fine. Now, if you put retinol on your face, your body turns it into retinal and then turns it into tretinoin and then it uses it to do whatever it's doing. And we'll come to what it does because it's very important. So you can get it in any of those forms. The higher you go, the stronger it is because your body is converting it less and less. Okay. Retinoles I don't really like generally because how much your body converts the retinol to a tretinone is very unpredictable. So that for me, kind of stays at the door. So if if we're doing Olivia's house, things stay at the door. Not on the list. The next things are retinals and tretinoins. Okay. Retinals I love. If someone's got sensitive skin, they're scared about using retinols, scared about putting those kind of things on your skin, you start with a retinale. Okay. Now every brand seems to be making their retinale nowadays. Everyone. A load of them are a load of rubbish. We won't name them. Okay. And but some of them are incredible. Okay? And the ones that are incredible are the ones that have a ladder of strength from very weak to very strong, which means someone who's got super sensitive skin should be on retinal, but they should start on the really low one. Okay. Those ones you'd start like twice a week initially, you work your way up until you're using it every night, and then you go up higher and higher and higher. Like Medicaid, for example, do the best retinels on the market. Like Medicaid. There is no better retinal on the market, in my opinion. Because they do a ladder of strength from super week your strength to super street so you can decide if you want to be beginner level or expert level. Don't start on expert. If you're gonna start your journey, just start low, start slow, and just listen to your skin. So you'll put it on. If you go dry, stop using it for a couple of days. Absolutely fine. Then start using it again. You can put a bit of moisturizer on top to hydrate on top of it. Fine. I prefer without. I do, yeah. Because it's like a medication. So you put it on your skin. If you put anything on top, it buffers it. So for example, the Medicaid ones are crusty retinales, they go like one, three, six, ten, twenty. So if you're using a six and you're putting some moisturizer on it, you might be actually using it as a three, if that makes sense. Yeah. So those are lovely. And then when you work your way up, then ideally I do like to get people on tritinone. So tritinone is the prescription level vitamin A. So get that in clinic. Comes in like a little tube. It comes in a little tube. You have to get it from your clinic. Um, and that I can always tell if someone's using tretinoin because when they come into clinic, they've got that shine, they've got that glow and that is from tretinoin, but you have to work your way up. You again, if you if someone's got a really problematic like acne pigmentation skin, I will put them straight on tretinoin and we just go through the journey of a little bit of dryness and redness. That you start like using twice a week, and then you slowly increase that. Ideally, most of my very well-behaved clients will be on it every day if I can get them to every night. And it what does it do for the skin? What is this active like behaviors that we want? So out of all the research there is, it's the this the only one that's proven to be anti-aging. Wow. Yes. And because what it does is it increases your skin cell turnover, which means how long it takes for that new baby skin that's just been made to come off to the surface and show off. So at the age of 20, it takes about 20 days for that skin that's been created to come and show off, which means in 20 days, not much has happened to it. It's hydrated, it's smooth, it's glowing. At the age of 60, it takes 60 days for that skin that's just been created to come all the way through, which means it's had time to become damaged, pigmented, dry. So it's cell turnover, basically. Cell turnover. So how quickly those cells are being made. The quicker the cells are made, the smoother things look. Yeah. So it really increases that. So someone at the age of 60, I won't be able to get you down to twenty. It's impossible. No. But you can I can get it down to like forty days. Yeah. So at sixty, your age can be looking forty, which is fantastic. But you have to be consistent and you have to start now. Today's the day. If you're not using it, if you're watching get yourself on a retina now or a trep from a doctor. Exactly. LED masks. Yes. We obviously love the shark ones. We love it. Like let's do some like a bit of myth debunking. What do you love them for as a doctor, as as a skincare expert? What are you, what do you kind of what are their their pros that you say to your clients, look, you need to get yourself one of these. So when I when I've got someone in clinic, there's six things I tell them about. Okay. Right? So number one is Botox. I don't care who you are, Botox makes you look better. That's number one. Number two are skin boosters, profilo, polynuctides, whatever, give you a little bit of hydration. Okay. Number three are facials . Number four are supplements, which I'm sure we'll come back to. Number five is the devices so in particular LED masks? I love an LED mask. The reason I love it is because how it works. What it does, it energizes all the cells that heal the skin, right? So we've got lots of different layers of the skin. The red light and the infrared light energizes the cell, which is the mitochondria, which sorry to take you back to science. But No, I like I don't remember mitochondria from back in the old year. Yeah, I do. It does it rings a bell. It does bring in something. And what that does, that helps to it acts like a battery underneath your skin. So it energizes things and allows things to heal. It reduces inflammation, it reduces redness, so you have less blemish es, the skin is smoother, the pores appear smaller, and the skin just it'll it will just show up in your skin because your skin will glow. So LED generally was used in dermatology clinics. So you'd go in for a dermatology appointment, you'd be put on under LED mask because it would help with wound healing and all of that kind of stuff. But now that's been taken into your own home. Now, the at-home ones, you can't compare to the ones that you get at dermatology clinics because they can't be made as the same power. Of course. But for you to get results, you just have to be consistent. So I tell my clients to be using it five days a week to seven days a week if you can every night that's the first thing I do I'll wash my face put my shark LED mask on but you I just let it do it as though you go around the house just you can cook your dinner with it or go watch a film do whatever you want you just gotta make sure there's nothing on your skin. So you've got to cleanse your skin, make sure there's nothing on, and then you put it on. And it's doing lots of different things. So it has the blue light, it's got the red light, and it's got the infrared light. And all those all those lights penetrate the skin at different depths. So the blue light works on the top surface layer of the skin whereas layers like blemishes. Yeah. Then the red light goes just underneath a little bit further to again stimulate healing and reduce inflammation. And the infrared light goes a lot deeper to help f irmness of the skin. It's so clever, isn't it? It's incredible. And people came up with this, I'm so we're so grateful to these kind of people who came up with this. It was actually NASA who started LED lights. Wow. NASA. NASA . Because what they found is astronauts who'd have like cuts or anything up in space, when the if their hand was underneath the LED light, it would heal a bit quicker. Yeah. And they were like, there's something going on there. So they brought it back down, did research on it, and were like, this is great for wound healing. Then it was taken to dermatology clinics where we use it to for wound healing and regeneration. And then now it's for you to use at your own home. Amazing. Incredible. Amazing. Okay, we've got audience questions. A little bit of a quick fire. So give me your um your professional take. What are your favourite treatments for Andorrise? Depends on the concern. Okay. But generally injectable treatments, polynucleotides are the only thing really I like because it makes you produce lots of collagen, lots of elastin, helps to smooth skin quality. Have you had that one yet? I've had the polys. Nice. Under the eyes, whole face. I love, love. I love , I love was a big fan of um profilo. Yes, but I think I actually like the pol nutrides better. Interesting. Yeah. I'm gonna disagree. Um profilo incredible for the rest of your face, but you can't inject it underneath your eyes. Right. So what I generally do is provide it everywhere else and fill the underway polynomial. Go crazy. It's like injectable skincare. Is that how you is is that a really basic way to kind of describe it? Yeah. So it just does a lot of the things that your skincare does, i.e., stimulates your collagen, your elastin, thickens things up, and just makes things smoother. It just gives it a little boost alongside your skincare. Stunning. That's number one. Number two, for puffiness, like I said, the only thing that's really gonna work is improving your lymphatic flow. So puffiness under the eyes happens because there's water retention. Yeah. When there's water retention, usually in the mornings you'll find everything's a little bit puffier. The under eyes are a bit puffier, the rest of the face is always a little bit rounder. Because we've got pipe work around our face which drains the water. Overnight that kind of gets blocked. And because it gets blocked, that slows down so the water isn't draining. Then it sits in then it just sits there and things look puffy. So all you need is like a four to ten minute routine to depuff that. Wow. And that's where you would generally we were using gouaches where we would like put in the freezer, let get cold, and then try and depuff that area. Whereas now we can use devices which are just which you can leave at your bedside, wake up, the first thing you do in the morning, you use the depuffy, and that will improve the lymphatic flow and just help to reduce the amount of water retention in your face. I've used that, I've you talked about my socials. It's a real game changer. I love the fact that it goes from hot to cold, so you kind of can jump between those two settings depending on like what you want it for. So generally you would start with the warm to increase the blood circulation in that area. And then cold to kind of Cold helps to reduce the blood vessels. It helps to shrink thingers, which means your pores appear less visible. Yeah. And you will look sculpted. I think there's a study on it that showed like ninety percent of people felt sculpted just by using it for four minutes. We'll take it. Oh I mean you just answered this question. Lymphatic drainage, what does it actually do? So essentially by using the depuffy, you are doing some manual lymphatic drainage. Absolutely. So what will happen is your under eyes will be um depuffed, your cheeks will look sculpted, and your jawline will look sculpted. And you just do that on a daily basis. Skin care step you should never skip. Apart from SPF, always SPF, but that's boring answer. Is your retinals. SPF retinols. Does More retinals, remember we learned that? Retinals, yes. And remember that now. Because actually, I didn't even know that. Getting filler in your 20s, does it age you more long term ? Long term, no, unless you have too much. If you have too much of anything, it's gonna go wrong. So you can stretch the skin. Why does filler wear off so quickly on me? Not me personally. I was gonna say you why does some people like why do they why do they their does their Botox wear off faster than others? Generally, it's because of your metabolism. So it's any one that works out, eats healthy, taking their supplements, looking after themselves. They get penalized by less both. You get penalized, unfortunately. It just doesn't last as long. So you basically break it down quicker by if you're caning the like the Barry's boot camp, it will unfortunately break your Botox down. My Barry's clients are in my chair a lot more often than anyone else. And I love it. The couch potatoes. No, I shouldn't say that. Sun . The sun will also expediate how quickly things break down, including Botox filler, etcetera. Going for my first Botox appointment, what should I ask for? Or is it for the the doctor to decide? The conversation you need to have is what do you want to achieve out of it? So when someone's in my chair for the first time, they're always always absolutely petrified because they don't want to look like they've had Botox, which is fine. And I always tell people Botox is done on a scale of strength. Super weak baby Botox where you look the same to completely frozen where nothing is moving. Everybody always wants to start on this side of the scale, right? Like a one two. Holy go. And you know the conversation always has I've I bet you any money. Give me, give me a year, give me two years next. You will be on the other s So you or the conversation you have to have with your injector is that you want to start natural. Because if you start high, you will hate it because you look you will get a jump scare. And you'll get a jump scare because it feels heavy. Something that actually works for helping blemishes. Easy. Three things. So number one is your skincare. So your salicylic acids and your retinols, which we discussed, are really gonna help reduce that. Number two is your LED mask. So your LED mask has that blue wavelength, and that is going to help reduce blemishes. And studies have shown on this mask in particular, the Shark Cry Glow, is within four weeks, it will reduce blemishes. Wow. Last thing are collagen supplements. Collagen supplements work beautifully just generally. So you're actually a fam? I actually love So taking them orally basically. Take them orally only if you're having treatments. So if you're using your retinals, if you're having microneedling, if you're having injectables, collagen works beautifully. If you're not doing any of that, it's a waste of time. And most of them are a load of rubbish. So there's only one brand that I actually like. They're called Luna and Solace. Stunning. Best collagen on the market. How much do you think diet plays into acne? Huge amounts. Diet, your genetics, and what you're putting on your skin. What I find is a lot of people actually are using dirty makeup brushes or dirty makeup, putting on putting that back on their skin. And then that's got bacteria in it. Pillowcases put it out. Pillowcases, not changing them enough. These little things will make a huge difference. Sugar is the worst for skin. It's horrendous. Favourite way to reduce redness? Redness is a really, really difficult thing to treat. Um so lasers can help quite a lot. Um retinoles and tretinoin in particular will help very long term, but you have to just stick with it and it will. But otherwise your LED masks, again, it's gonna help to reduce inflammation, it's going to help reduce blemishes. And then using your your guasha inspired devices like the Depuffee. Depuffee, because that will help shrink things and make things less red. Someone has some money to spend. Where would you invest in terms of long-term skin health? Two things. One is skincare and it's consistency with skincare. So your retinals in particular, and two and LED mask. Those two work beautifully hand in hand. Everyone should have it. Perfect like combination, basically. Let's get into some trends of 2026, things that people are talking about a lot. What you think versus what you think's over hyped. The first one, I it's actually new to me. P D R N. Yes. What is that? That's just the fancy version of saying salmon sperm or polynucitice. Oh, so I do know. You you know, you have it . It's not your first radio. So I do know. Um fan or overrated? Fan in the right person. So the problem again, there's that is with TikTok. So when when the salmon sperm reje ctions first came out, um they've been around for a long time. I've been injecting it for years, way before it was way, way before it became popular. But then um social media decided that sa having salmon sp erm injected was super cool and a trend, which I love is great. Um but they were telling you that it gets rid of like your darkness, they were telling you it gets rid of your puffiness. They were telling you it's brightening things. It does not do that. It's a skin booster. It just helps to improve the quality of your skin not life changing but love it in certain areas especially underneath the eye and ad NAD you're you do N A D right I was gonna say I've just out on you then no I do. I so I inject it and I I go I go on and off it and I've had any D drips in clinic. It's a hard one. Uh it's like when I do the the I do some hyperbaric oxygen therapy when I'm tired. There's a l there is obviously some entire sci entific backing, especially to hyperbole oxygen. Yeah. There's a bit of a placebo effect. I feel like it helps my energy levels, but I mean it's hard to like on a scale, like, you know, prove what is a little bit in your mind? Like what do you what's your opinion? Um great if you are doing it consistently. You need to do it on a daily basis. If you're not doing it on a daily basis, you're not gonna see much from it. But again, what that does, that stimulates your energy cells and helps it produce energy a bit quicker, which means you are going to be energized and your cells are going to heal quicker. So yes, if you're doing if you're consistent in doing it every day. What um for listeners, how would you explain an A D? Like if they don't they're like, what the hell are you talking about, Liv? So it's an injectable product, because everything's been injected nowadays. Of course. Um it's an injectable product and it's something that's stim so I don't know if you you might remember this again from your biology lessons. You would have seen NAD in one of those equations that creates ATP. ATP is energy. Okay. And that's how much energy you're producing. You need ATP to create to do anything. Yes. So it just stimulates that ATP production. So you're gonna have more energy because you're adding something into your body that makes that chain reaction happen a bit easier. And the other thing I would say to people, because I have used it, is there are a lot of bogus companies now flogging it. Everyone's making it. Everyone's making it so make sure it's a high quality product, FDA approved. You know, don't go. Don't just go injecting things for a reasonable. What we're putting to our bodies. This what I'm I haven't even told you yet. I'm off to career next week. Nice. For the show. So KBC, how would you how what's that's what's the influence from career in your industry and and and skin? Huge. Is it true that we're basically always a little bit behind. They're doing it, and then a few years later we'll go, Oh, that's what are you doing over there? Let's have a go. Always. And that's where I got the salmon spam injection from years ago was Korea. Okay, okay. So they are really quite ahead of us when it comes to skin. I'm taking one whole suitcase, by the way, just for suitcase. I would take two. So can you send me a list? Because I am gonna load up. Can I come? Yeah, can you come as my maybe come as my medical consult? I will and I'll come with an extra suitcase and we've got halves on it. Um I'm only joking, um customs or trying another running with them. Nothing we're allowed. Okay, yeah, because K Beauty They are ahead of us. They are very ahead of us because they they are they have always been very into their skin. Yeah. If you go there, you'll see the Korean girls and boys they never put their faces in the sun. They do not fuck with anti-aging, with getting age, like their skin, it's insane. Their SPFs are incredible. Okay. They sit beautiful. Most of the SPFs that we have are not very nice. You find they're really claggy, they clog up your skin because we just they're just not very well formulated. Their ones are incredible. So their sun exposure, first of all, their education on that is brilliant. But they are just ahead. They put a lot of money and there's a huge amount of investment that goes into skincare. Yeah. And their government is even putting money into that because that's bringing them a lot of money via K-Beauty. Yeah. Which means they are so ahead of us. So they're injectable products, they're fillers., incredible I've been using their fillers for years and they are amazing. They're polynucleotide, so they're salmon sperms, incredible. Nothing better than the ones that the ones that they have. So they are very, very ahead. And even their devices, I'm trying to bring some of their device over. It's really not easy. So if you find a contact there, please let me know. Three suitcases? Yes. What's new in scalp and hair growth treatments? Is it are we still looking at the same things? Is it monoxidil? PRP? What are you what are your what what do you recommend to people with concerns around similar sort of things, but they are getting better, especially for men, actually. So men nowadays shock horror, yeah, I know, sorry guys. All the investment goes to the same thing. So you guys kind of have the capital on balding. I don't know why I'm looking at you. I'm so sorry . To be fair, I've got no competition in the road live . Yeah, you are the baldest one here. I'll let you have that. I was as well, but I've had it sorted. Did you have a hair transplant? And then what did and then well also post-chair hair transplant, you have to look after that too. Because if you don't, I cause I stopped looking after it because I was like, yeah, I'm looking cute, I'm done. I'm done. And then no, it starts fall fingalling out. It starts out. So men generally, you don't have to be bold. No. But you have to start very a lot of men aren't good at straight men, I'm gonna actually say is consistently using a product. Of course. So monoxyl works beautifully because what it does, it increases the blood flow to your hair cells. So they will be thicker. So females should be using monoxil 100%. And men as well. Now the men's one also has something called finest dride in it so you'll see they were we were taking tablets to try and grow hair which works beautifully but you would get issues in terms of bedroom issues so now it's in like your sex drive drive reduces massively because it affects your testosterone. Um so now what we have is male ones will have the that hormone in it along with a really high m uh monoxystyl percentage, which means you can put it autopically and not get any systemic results. And with women, I'm just treating loads of women with hair loss because everyone's on a Zampeg. What we're doing is we're putting them on higher percentage monoxtil. So general monoxil you can buy legally is five percent off on market, you can get prescription levels which are 10%, which is incredible. It's game changing. Do you bunk something for me? Like so say you're in boots and you see like the regain and there is the women's version, the men's version,. L likeike is it just a pink tax thing? Like, can we use the men ones? I would I if my code So it doesn't matter that that hormone's in there. It's not going to be there's no hormone in that one. Oh so it is a pink tax. So you can use pink tax. So use the men's one works the same. It actually works better because it's got a higher percentage of monoxidil. There we go. You heard it here first, guys. Before you go, I want to play a game. So I'm going to read you a list of trending skincare hacks, if you will. And I want your un filtered honest opinion. Go on. Face taping. Fine, it will work for about half an hour and then and then you lose all the results from it. So if you're just going just about to go to an event and you just want things to look a little bit snatched, then yeah, you can put your face tapes on. But like people post rhinoplasty when they tape their nose, helps the swelling. You're better off using the shark D puffy because that will sculpt you for a lot longer for the rest of the day. And also , I've seen people taping their face and then they're ripping the table for the morning. It's not necessarily you can't damage your skin barrier as well. Face wraps . Again, so the idea of those face wraps are like most ly for under the jaw to make things look a bit more lifting. Like almost like what you'd wear post-surgery. Yes. So again, so I think Kim Kaye had one, didn't she? She released one for about two seconds. Um again, you're gonna see like you will see an instant result for about an hour or so and then you've lost it. So don't waste your time. Don't waste your money. Dermoplaning. Derma planing, there's so much about dermoplaning. Um just for people that don't know, it's using a blade. Yeah it's using like a like a blade just to remove those those really thin hairs on the top so I've say of the burraskin that we all have. Yeah and they're usually really light and really blonde. Mine aren't blonde but but they you just remove them and it will make your skin look absolutely glowing. You will shine, but the problem with it, you just have to have it done regularly. Yeah. So if you're okay and it's part of your plan and you can go and have it done regularly and professionally? Absolutely. Be wary of the big packs of them by the till at TK Maxx. Yeah, please don't don't don't just start shaving your phone. Because they're not sharp, are they? And then you can. They will cut yourself. Silk pillowcases. Silk pillowcases, lovely, really nice. The idea is I'm big stan. Yeah. The idea is your face doesn't crease as much when you're laid on them because they're silk. Really nice. Just make sure you change your pillowcase is probably more important. Yeah. How often would you recommend people to change their pillowcases? I change mine twice a week. Same. And if you've got acne? If you've got acne, yeah, more or at least flip it over. So twice a week and keep flip it over. Poor vacuums. These little machines we see on Instagram are people suck their pores. So poor vacuums per se, absolute no. No. Believe it or not. Oh really? So nothing that vacuums because it will pull things out and damage your skin. Now, what you want to do instead is kind of like jet wash those um pores. So you wash them out rather than sucking. So one that we've got here which is stunning, it's my favorite one, is the facial pro glow by shark. Now what that does, let's have a look. Rather than vacuuming, it will hydrate and wash out the pores. So you fill this with solution, like skincare? So that comes with two Korean-inspired sk incare solutions. And we just spoke about Korean care. We know how amazing it is. So the first solution you put on your skin, and what it does, it just helps to soften this top surface layer of dead skin cells, ready for it to be extrac ted. And then initially you put water into it, and that just removes the derm detox that you've just put on your skin, which is removing that top size layer of dead skin, ready to then be extracted. And then you use something called the DEM detox. Now that has got hyaluronic acid in it and it's got a little bit of um BHA in there. What that's going to do is gonna hydrate and infuse the pores with hydration with nanohyaluronic acid. So your pores will appear smoother, the skin will be smoother, and your cl othes will be unclogged without causing any damage. Now, the beauty of that is then you can actually put the depuffy onto that. So the depuffy that comes separately, it has an attachment that goes straight onto that same machine. She can change the end basically. You change the top so it comes off. Oh, so you basically pull the whole thing off. Correct? Like that. Yeah. And then the depuffy attachment goes on. You use the cold contrast therapy on there, so the Insta Chill Technology will help to shrink pause, will help to depuff, sculpt, and you're ready for the day. This is the Shark Facial Pro Glow. It's very cute. Very nice. It's very cute it's got a look aesthetic on your very aesthetic and it's very good for travelling it's like compact so you've got the liquid in there I'm gonna put it on the back of my hand oh yeah you can just like sort of can you hear that just I I can. Can the listeners hear that? They can hear that. Yeah. It's like just like a very light suction. And then I could understand that. So it basically would jet wash your pores. Exactly. So it just hydrates and then it infuses that hyaluronic ac id into your skin. So you're just gonna be looking glowing for the rest of your day. That's really satisfying. If you s if you don't have time to go into a clinic for a facial I'm taking this. I that's what you use. That's mine now. Use that you and you can use that as many times as you want. Generally like once a week is fine. Yeah. For like a deep clean. For a deep clean, washes out the pores, you're ready to go. Your pores will be a little bit gunk build up in there from your skin in the other part. Yeah, so all the dirt that gets pulled out your skin goes into that tank there. That'll be a big thing, you'll see black heads. So when I zoom on honesty, you'll see like little black heads, you see white heads, you see all the dirt, all the makeup that you've left over that you haven't double cleansed off will be in that little tank. I want it. Okay . Beef tallow. Please just don't waste your money. Don't waste, don't put don't put things on your skin that shouldn't be on your skin. Any beef tallow sh doesn't deserve. Just keep it for cooking. Just cook with it mouth taping mouth taping actually works quite nicely um because it stops your breathing through your mouth okay a lot of people when they breathe through your mouth it actually changes your bone structure and the lower part on your face where your face is a little bit sunken back or retruded. So mouth taping helps to control your breathing, helps to reduce your heart rate overnight. I personally struggle because I feel way too claustrophobic doing it. But if you can, really, really nice. I tried it and then I was like every night at like midnight I was like whipping it off. Yeah. Like an hour into my sleep, I was waking up in the morning. I'd be like, um oh and it'll be on the floor. Yeah, so great if you if you can 're if you can handle it. Right, Dr. Moto x, that has been education for myself and hopefully the listeners as well. Um, a shout out to Sharp Beauty for bringing us this app. Um, I think we've all had um yeah a massive education. I've enjoyed it thoroughly. I'm glad. Yeah. Before you go, I would like you to play the game that we all play. It's um basically a referral. So who would you like to refer to Olivia's house? Who would you like me to put on the list and interview? Olivia, there's only one person that needs to be here. Well, who? And that is Dr. Jean. And I'll tell you who Dr. Jean is. Because most people don't know her, and you should know her. Dr. Jean is the one that discovered Botox for cosmetic reasons. What? Yes. And she's still alive. She's around. She's in California somewhere. Jesus. She's here, so she can actually come to Olivia's house. Okay, great. So her and her husband are the ones that discovered Boto x for cosmetic reasons. And without her, I wouldn't exist. Dr. Botox would not be a thing. My face wouldn't. You wouldn't be here. What like is she are they loaded? I don't she doesn't look loaded online. She has to be loaded. No, but she's not she doesn't own Botox. So the way they she discovered it is She's a scientist. She's a scientist. So they were treat her and her husband were treating patients with um eye twitching. Eye twitching. And they found those patients that would come in would be like, Oh, would you mind just injecting the other side? And they'd be like, Why? What's going on? And then all the everyone who came in would be like, I just look younger when I have this stuff injected. And they just sat back, they were like, What is going on? Why is everyone asking for more of this stuff? And they put two and two together and we're like, we can use this everywhere. That's incredible. And that's how that's where Dr. Most came from. I owe amazing. Career to Dr. Gene. And equally importantly, who should I ban? Who don't you want to see on that chair ever ? There's only one group of people. Go on. Straight men. I don't think any straight men are allowed should be allowed in live his house. I I have little interest. Yeah, that's yeah . If I see if I see one on here, live, I will. If you see one on here, you didn't have membership back. You know that they are very special. Oh my god, I've thoroughly enjoyed this conversation. Thank you so much. Dr. Mo everyone .