Impact on Predictions and Final Thoughts

Hello everybody and welcome to the People on podcast with Matt and Tommy Emergency Edition The most emergency emergencies of Formula One news , something that I cannot believe after Monaco this has actually happened, but Pierre Caslie has got his Monaco podium. Now , of course, fantastic news for Gazley to score lots of points to essentially get the trophy, but the one thing that he wanted that he didn't get was to stand on the podium. So I kind of feel a little bit sad for him at the same time. True. Yeah, that would have been absolutely epic. Of course, you say it's the breaking news of all breaking news and it is because you know, who cares about Louis Hamilton going to Ferrari or Max Stapen potentially going to Mercedes? You know, this is this is affecting our predictions championship and that is, you know, the biggest thing that matters in Formula One, of course. The family predictions will get family predictions even more important . No less important as the constructors make no one cares . So to get you all up to speed , Gasley's been reinstated into P three . The Stewards have rescinded both of the five second penalties imposed on Pierre Gasly for the speeding in the pit lane incidents. Now , the process of this was that because Gasly had not served his five second penalties , it had a right to review . We will talk about everybody else that had a penalty and served it shortly. , but this opened up an opportunity for Alpine to question it. And I fair enough, right? Because I'd seen on boards, I've seen the telemetry and things to show, I think, especially the second Gazley penalty where he was cruising down the pit lane at what looked like fifty kilometers an hour when the limit is sixty supposedly. Sorry the same . And you know, nowhere near essential speed limit and still got a penalty for that one. So Alpine, they basically protested. They brought new evidence, which is something that they have to do in order to protest something that's been adjudicated during the race and it was deemed adm issible , which was then taken to the review hearing, which I will now tell you . So during Thursday's right of review hearing , F one's timekeeper, FOM, admitted there had been an error with the distance measurement in the pit lane from which speeds are taken, with the loop at pit entry where all six drivers were found to be speeding, turning out to be seventy seven centimeters shorter than expected , causing average speeds to be over reported. Wow. absolutely enormous mistake that is. Did I not say on the podcast there was a moment where Ed and Senna crashed in like the eighties and he said no one hundred percent the barrier must have been moved. And I said it was something similar to that where all these drivers must be doing like they know exactly where to do, they do all their practices. Everything in Formula One is to the millimeter and everything like that. And I said, surely there's an error here and that's exactly what's happened. And no wonder, you know, they were they're so adamant about it because I watched the very same clip as you did. I'm sure other people have seen it listening to this where normally when you get a pit lane speeding penalty it's set a track like a monzer or something and you're locking up you're, going deep on the brakes, you've maybe not slowed down enough , but it was quite clear that he was, I think, very, very cautious. You can see that his pit limit is on well before the line . He's slow ed down. He's being that throughout as well. Yeah, because I think they were there was talk about, you know, cutting and being very careful . So for them to of course, of course it's a podium for alpine which is massive. So of course they're going to do everything they could anyway, but it was quite clear that they were doing everything to make sure it happened and really truly believed that this was a mistake and wow, I mean it doesn't it takes Formula on a lot to admit that they've made a mistake and here we are that they have. And a result has been changed, which I'm sure a lot of people will be surprised about because you know we, don't tend to normally see that particularly when it's such a like a big moment like a podium finish as well . You do say it takes a lot for FOM to admit that they did wrong. No, it takes someone to literally go to a hearing in order for them to admit they've done wrong. Are you telling me they would have come out with this voluntarily with if there hadn't been a proper team statement to say, look, we're going to appeal this. So the big question now is what the others must be thinking. So the penalties and forgive me if I've missed any out but I believe this is all the ones that got speed speeding the pit lane penalties Hamilton who served as five seconds, Russell, who I think will be the most peeved of all because he got five seconds and then a drive through due to his team not serving the penalty correctly Piastri got five seconds but served it and so do Colopinto that's a lot of people to be caught out with penalties. Of course Hamilton didn't affect affect because Charlotte was made to serve exactly the same penalty. Russell, of course, it affected massively, but not necessarily the five seconds. That would have been fine. I don't think that would have actually affected his race, but the domino effect that that caused with his drive through of course massively impacted him. Piestri , I don't believe that it affected him either if I if'm I'm not mistaken and then Colopinto as well. But like overall the big talking point has to be George Russell what happened for his thoughts. I'm sure we'll I'm sure we'll get a he'll be asked by all the media now . And Russell has been you know extremely vocal about his luck this year or lack of and how he believes you know he's said many things about , oh , you know, the gods don't want me to win this championship and things like that. And obviously you had the DNF in Canada when he was leading the race and then Monica went horrendously bad for him . I feel like I'm right in saying and I've seen a lot and this is what his fans were kind of mentioning as well that George was kind of adamant about just going to the line, getting the penalty and everything done afterwards and then seeing what happened if they could protest it. So I think he's going to be even more annoyed now seeing another team have fought their driver 's position , you know, to the point where they're going to , you know, the courts and things and a hearing with Formula One to make it happen and Russell wanted to do exactly this and stay out . I don't care about the penalty. We'll drive to the line and then I'm going to finish last anyway. So we might as well get the time penalty at the end of the race if I get disqualified whatever and will you know go through it afterwards and they didn't do that and now he's got to witness a driver that did do that or didn't serve it, get his get his time back because it was a mistake. So he must be absolutely fuming right now because had that not happened, he's probably finishing the race in second or third I'm just still completely baffled that this even exists as a mistake. You know, this is not a five or ten centimeter mistake. Seventy seven meters Meters centimeters centimeters . Seventy seven centimeters , which is, you know, a big old measurement . So yeah, of everyone that's coming out of this, the FIA really have to look at what on earth happened here and it just seems like carelessness on their part to not check things ahead of the ahead of the weekend. Now you mentioned about drivers taking the penalties and during the race and not and you know the wonder is does this open a can of worms? For me, I think that maybe a couple of worms slip out of the can, but not all of them because a lot of the time it makes sense for teams and drivers to serve their penalties during the race because you never know later on there might be a safety car that changes the race, backs the pack, back up and things like that. With Monico obviously it's such a unique situation where you're not you're not gaining anything you can't pass, right? So there's no there's no real gain from serving the penalty although still teams are kind of used to that being the way to go because well what else are we going to do? We just have the five seconds at the end. So every other race track, I think, you know, if it's you know, collisions on track, so on and so forth, it usually is a reasonable slam dunk unless teams have, you know, extra evidence to show, which they never usually do. Whenever they've sort of questioned or appealed certain things claiming they have more evidence, they usually get turned away, especially when it's yet, like sort of will to action or whatever. But for this one, I think it's such a unique experience moment for the sport that I don't think it will really change the way teams go about racing and holding all these penalties to the end of the race because a lot of the time as I mentioned, there is something to be gained just not around Monaco. Yeah, for sure . It is such a bizarre incident and one that is such a sign of protest that I think you know, say someone like Gazley, he knew and everyone knew that everyone was getting penalties. So in that mind you're kind of already thinking this can't be my fault or at least there's something unusual going on here . Whereas I doubt famous last words when it happens in Spain, but we see someone taking their front wing off in a collision. They feel like they've been hard done by because they don't think it's their fault or it's a fifty fifty incident and then going, actually no, I'm not serving my penalty because I'm now going to go to the Stewards and ask about it at the end and say, well, actually this happened. I can't see that. And if they did, I think if the FIA and Formal Or would have a dim view on it and start to maybe clamp down even more, or of course, you know, you're not serving penalties. They could change things there. But I don't see it happening or opening a can of worm simply because it is just such a bizarre incident , one that we've never seen before I can certainly remember in Formula One where a pit lane was shorter than they remembered and because of the unique way that speed is done over distance . So yeah, I don't think this is going to cause a mess other than probably George Russell now fuming and being very upset by it. Another guy to mention is probably Hajjar, of course, who's lost a podium at Monica, which is of course a fantastic achie vement . Indeed, yeah for Hajar he's got the opposite of Gazley where he loses everything bar the experience of actually being on the Monaco podium and that's something I'm sure that will live with him for the rest of his life of course he'll have lots of success for it. He'll be hoping for the rest of his career as well. But yeah, it's a shame for Hadjar. It's not like he loses a huge amount, goes down by one position, still gets a lot of points and yeah, he'll lose his Monaco Trophy, but you know he's driving for Red Bulls. So you'd hope that he'd be able to get more trophies in the future. But yeah, sad for him because you could tell that that meant quite a bit to him . Tommy, your dad had a generational prediction for Monaco that Gasly would be on the podium. It was cruelly taken away from him with two five second penalties that were due to speeding in the pit lane which wasn't speeding. We're now going to call him him to let know. Please pick up. Please please pick up. He might not pick up. He genuinely doesn't, he might not actually know because I sent you twenty minutes ago unless he is literally on Come on, come on, please, please. Hello . Hi Dad How are you? I've got some I've got some breaking news for you have you heard? Gasly has got third place . Yeah , how does it feel to have the greatest prediction in P one podcast history? Who Formula One history? Formula One history maybe. Share is your thoughts. We're recording, we're recording right now. Share is your thoughts I think that's absolutely amazing. I saw the thing that it was the challenge had been made and was going to be taken further. And yeah, he's been reinstated as of about five minutes ago . Oh my god and then I was trying to work out that I take it both five second penalties. Yeah, it was both. Yeah. I love how your mum sounds more excited but the dad does. Somebody else that had a five second penalty is now third instead but he's got it He's got it No So do I get one point because I got half a point for being so good. Here we go. I'm predicting it . And it was very jealous of Matt and the family to give me half a point even though he didn't officially finish third, he's right now he is we'll discuss that surely that's double points. Okay, my dad wants double points Thanks, Dad. All right, we're gonna we're going to continue with the podcast, but it's all right, Dad. Well, I'll give you a call back afterwards and we'll have a catch up . Well done, Dad. Bye . Arla, what a prediction. He wants double points. And what I have to say to that is similarly to Hamilton , Russell, Piatri Colopinto, well, had the five second pounds during the race. That was served and done. The half a point was served. Okay. We've moved on. We've moved on How dare you? No, it's been overstated the P one right to review from the Bellinghams has been issued now and it's been now open to the comments. No, no, yeah, fair enough . Of course it's a full point . I mean, double points I get similarly to this overruling of the penalties , you know, if I give double points for this one, we're opening up a can of worms here . However , oh God, am I gonna regret this? How 's so good . It's so good. Yeah, I laughed. I think yeah, all right, double points. Double points. Well done, you know, well done. You know it's good when you the most competitive person I know on this planet. I think that's an point. I think that shows growth . So well done Dean. Well done Bellingham's and if Fernando Alonso is on the podium this weekend I'm taking five points for my dad even though he retracted it . Well there, we go . A bit of a yeah, another emergency podcast. Hope you enjoyed it. We had to jump on this because I think it deserved a chat about it . Congratulations to your dad again, Tommy. Well done. Iope h he's happy with the double points because I certainly have not, but it was fully deserved. What a prediction. The greatest prediction we've ever seen and I know it might be up there as one of the greatest predictions ever full stop in the history of Formula One. So well done to Dean. Tommy, what are your final thoughts? Final thoughts are what a crazy just if Monica wasn't crazy enough this year, we're still talking about it on the Friday of the next race , still overturning decisions and stuff. One of the most bonkers races I've seen , but yeah, now to lock in to the Barcelona Catalonia Grand Prix and see some on track action today, which is crazy because it's weird to be talking about the previous race so late on, but indeed all stay in until free practice one starts of recording. So there you go. Thanks everybody. you S soeeon after goodbye. Goodbye. What ungasily sorry how ungazly P one is a st ack production and part of the ACAS Creator Network.