Battery deployment and racing strategy

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Gambling problem call one eight hundred gambler Hello everybody and welcome T the Bon podcast with Matt and Tommy. We are here Thanks to YouTube in an amazing little setup after the sprint You'll see this a bit later on as well after the main qualifying too. But we're here, Tommy to reflect on What we've seen today, an unbelievable view we have as well. Oh my way The Wellington Straight we are basically at the end of, and then of course, you have the sequence of corners where they're constantly battling. L feelield, I always forget the names of these oness. Yeah. Yeah, all that Unbelievable. So thank you to YouTube for having us here. But Tommy, first thoughts, hey feeling, What's your emotions after that sprint My emotions were to be here is unbelievable. The view we had was incredible. We saw an insane moment where We felt like we were literally above George Russell and Max when we had that really close moment. And I hope it was shown by the way. hope we talk about things that maybe you guys might not have seen because there a lot of things. We're on a balcony and we're kind of like looking down at the kind of breaking zone after the Wellington Straight and from Being that close and seeing it with your own eyes, it must have been millimeters and it's that kind of thing where When you're at a track, you can really appreciate more of like how insane it is that these guys race this closely and get that close to each other. And it must have been so close to George losing his front wing. that was Yeah, because Matt sort of came across and I genuinely winced. I stepped back. I thought, Oh my something's front w' going to go flying here. that catch it. Yeah Yeah they go. takeake that one in. But yes, Apart from that, like overall feelings. Overall feelings are that I thought I was watching the start of the season again with a certain B word B word Battery. A you going call it super clliipping or yoyo? I thought it would have been Y Yes. let's get into some questions because I know a lot of you are feeling very passionate about this. P one Pat meemember Ziny thirteen Was the yo yoing too much, even though it did give us exciting racing? Should we expect to see more of it again for the main race Now Silverstone, as we came into this weekend, we knew that there was going to be a battery starved circuit. There's not a lot of places for the battery to recharge a lot of places that they would love to deploy. and I let There were a lot of moves, a lot of overtakes those moves 's slunk.. Well no, but we were talking about side by side racing, which is the only time that I am happy with potential yoyo racing is when they fight into the corner. But the problem that I kind of felt constantly was because we're watching on like a big screen which is behind the camera and we're just seeing positions just change all the time. It was, as you say, most of the time, slam dunk. the battery runs out for one of the drivers trying to defend. Maybe they don't have overtake mode. All of a sudden they've lost one two positions. Yeah, it was very much how I felt Australia was where Not only was it yoyoing, but it felt like the drivers were almost learning as they went as well of where to deploy Because at points, drivers were just sitting ducks. They were. And I know Antonelli and Hamilton were the class of the field in qualifying and I know in the race again But I'm convinced it's very similar to Australia where The guys in that that kind of fighting for third was Lando George. Oscar Chll, Max, they were all going for it and They just lost so much time because they didn't actually lose a huge amount of time throughout the race. It was just all at that start. and that reminded me so much of Australia where as soon as you get caught in a battle and Someone's flying past someone and then you lose so much time and you get repassed and you get repassed. they were like five seconds behind, I think, after about four laps, just because they were all switching positions, which On paper, and it's the same conversation of Australia, on paper that's exactly what you want to see last year We had we were here complaining about professional races. and Everyone's stuck behind each other and there's too much dirt air. Now we're getting loads of action. Too much action. toooo much But I think it is cemented in the fact that this track U It just really did feel like we've gone back to the start. but I think that is track specific. And I think had Saudi not been cancellled, we would have had exactly the same thing. I think that was the number one circuit for what would have been maybe the worst in terms of the before they would have changed the rules as well, which would have been something to behold. So it does feel as though Formula learning as we go as well. I can't imagine they'll have the same recharge rate here next year. Of course they are trying to make these small changes anyway, aren't they? But it was too far on the level of artificial for me for sure. The one thing Absolutely out of all it was the battle for the Le. where Hilton was doing his. most to try and keep the lead. But of course, Anenally got into that one second window, he was able to have slightly more of a deployment. Of course that's what happens within that one second with the overtake mode. But the move down the Hang of Straight was just the easiest. there was no there was no battle. There was no. He was four car lengths clear Antonlli come the end of the straight. It was so markedly different It was. I saw some telemetry data of the two two cars and obviously they were very close in qualifying Anntneally and Hamilton and How much more employment Mercedes have on all the straightets is something, you know, they've got their car right. We know that. That's why they've won almost every single race this year. But yeah, I think the probably the biggest frustration mayaybe it wouldn't be so extreme if we'd have just had a lot of the racing at the start. It's still bad, but I think the the fact that we were so excited for when Antoni finally goes for his move. It was it was almost like a slow burn that bit of the race where you just kind of like Anton is there, they're chasing there half a second. point three Oh, he's gonna to do it. And there go was, Oh Yeah, and then it' just done. and Yeah, I'm not here to defend it at all because it was very disappointing to see that and We have had it in the past where circuits and DRS just haven't got it right and we've seen that But that was definitely like the worst of the kind of battery deployment racing that we saw. and it really does feel like this circuit is just going because of the nature of it straight back to what we were seeing in Australia, which is Why probably so many people are unhappy and I don't blame them. No, and as for the part of the question, which says, shouldould we expect to see more of it for the main race? Yes, I think that is the case They'll learn a bit. I hope they don't do what we said before the rule changes where They know going for a move probably isn't worth it unless you're definitely going to do it because again, they lost so much time. We saw I think it was George and Max swapping positions again and again And that's probably why George was like dropping b. Howad that not happened? Maybe maybe George is finishing third, for example. Yeah, it's almost like the drivers get a little bit overve excited in those first couple of laps.reacing. They always want to pass each other. And then they look down at the dash and go, oh my god, I've got no battery left and of a sudden, the cars are got. I've got no battery and the guy in front is now four seconds. Yeah ye, ye exactly Depploying in a subopptimal way is so costly It's crazy. It's quite funny to witness though because it is literally like head versus heart and they are Formula O drivers that will always go it. you know if you're in the car, you're gonna press button that makes your car go fast. Yeah exactly and they go, oh no, I shouldn't have done that. No one saves the mushroom in marriry You use it stight. You're supposed to do in time trial for the exact right points anyway. Next question, be on Patreon meember, Ghost of Indy two thousand five, Is Silverstone exposing these cars and regulations? Ag? Batteries and superclippings seem to be an issue this weekend I think it is circuit specific this because there are no heavy braking tones. you know There's a few, but not many Well a lot of like the long straights you have sort of medium to high school. Exactly.ow here as well in this sequence that we're watching from. Be I saw in qualifying that Hamilton didn't press the brakes between I think it was turn seven and fifteen or somethingot once, whichich shows how much that that's the way to drive. rather than actually hitting the brakes and that's how he's got the time from the lap, which is mag. even to fifteen includes Maggotus and Beckets I'm pretty sure they would have braked at some point when they were going health or leather back in the day. Yeah, exactly. This is very much circuit specific because we've not had this conversation. We've had some brilliant races the last few Grand Prix and we've kind of forgotten about this whole topic It is such a shame. It's happening at Silverstone because it's a legendaryiruit. One of the best on the kind is always delivered. But it really is you're really seeing the extreme nature of these regulations there You certainly are. Yeahah. and I think that As I kind of mentioned at the top of the show, it is very much This is one of the worst tracks for it. We will go to other circuits, know like the of I think Belgium will be interesting. I think that might be similar to this in a lot of ways because there's not a lot of heavy baking zones either there. But then Hungary, we won't even talk about energy, I don't think. So it's a shame. it's the way the regulations are. we have to kind of accept it. But yeah, it was because of how epic and iconic Silver one is as a circuit, it was a bit sad to see some corners reduced to recharge zones ery forma rel like. Thank goodness it wasn't what it was at the start of the season, because how bad would it that? D is great I'd dad to think. Although I would have taken you know, both Charlotte and Lewis fighting for the win. On just Lewis. Is that up the next question? It is indeed. Robbie Swayain fourteen. Is Norris the most underrated driver this year Lando did a phenomenal job, P three in the spprint U he was caught up in that hul carfuffle with what we said from sort of third all the way down to seventh. but then he managed to break away and his pace look really good. Once he had sort of settled down, I think he even closed in on Hamilton a little bit come the end of the race. And I find it really fascinating The difference in teammates this weekend You have Antonlli clear of Russell, you have Hamilton clear of Lecler, you have Norris clear of Piastry and obviously V stappen is always clear of Hjar I mean, qualifying has been quite close.. But there is a serious teammate difference this weekend, which I find fascinating around a circuit like this. Of course Hamilton has his own reasons because he's unbelievable around here. for Fillando Yeah, Oscar had a pretty good Austria. You know, he kind of said he went quite quietly about his way to a P four last time out. But Lando desespite some issues I think he had in shocked as yeah once again. but And qualifying had the breke the breke course just fall off first to the SQ one and SQ two, wasn't it? Yeah, and he is still on that run of form of whenever his car doesn't brerake he's able to extract a phenomenal amount out of his car. So Lando P three very strong. and I think he will quietly be feeling confident about the race tomorrow where strategy is implemented His race pace, as I say, looked as good as Hamilton, maybe even slightly better. Antonillies home and dry, but Olando Pito is definitely possible tomorrow should qualify and go to plan Yeah, I completely agree that Lando Nris is the most underrated driver this year. and you know Rightly, Kimy Antonlli and Lewis Hamilton are two drivers this season that are getting all the praise. But Lando, we've said this before, when his car has been working He delivers, and I think he's driving better than ever. He's clearly very comfortable in these regulations and He's had the measure of PSrery more often than not this season, particularly you know when his carars working and often can put massive margins on there and you feel like it said it the weight of that championship office shoulders He's smiling around the paddock again. It doesn't look like it's kind of that stress of the championship. Obviously he'd love to be in that championship fight. No doubt every driver would But he's almost immediately just accepted the situation. I won a championship. I won a championship now. I'm not not in the fight this year And I think he is he is showing just as much, if not maybe more that he's a worthy world champion and what he's done with that car because he's been absolutely brilliant this year. Completely agree. Next question, P on pitch memember Mary M. M, what happened to both Red Bulls They cannot start. and it's just happening again and again and again with Red Bull We were we were watching from the balcony and I said, oh, I'll be happy if Max will be Pce seven at the start, Sixth sales place. And that feels like a win because of how bad the Red Bull stars have been. Does they? No like a win? No it would never feel like a win. But of like everything Yeah. Yeah but it feels like not that bad compared to H his teammate, you dropped loads of positions and flew all the way back into the midfield. But Red Bull while We saw Antonlli didn't wear at the start of the season could not get it right. There was procedural issues and it wasn't always down to the driver But that's gone now. That whole narrative of Antonelli can't start a Grand Prix is over. He almost got Hamilton to a turn one Exactly. the Ferraris do not have the advantage anymore. Charl went from fourth to seventh at the start. How does that even happen? How are we nine rounds in all of a sudden Charl iss losing position starting for bullet. What what do we have anymore? But Red Bull, are just in that position where you almost know they're going to lose places on the line. and unfortunately for Hajar. Despite the massive gap between the midfield and the top runners to just drop too many positions. It was quite It's an insane thing to say it was quite hard to overtake because of how when they did overtake, they breezed past, But people were stuck behind and it was all about just where you deployed in the best kind of way And how did I Yeah, I didn't get a point in the end. Liam Maorson must be absolutely buzzing that H getting a point in the sprint is amazing enough. I think even more satisfying that he's beatating the second rebel bas everything he's gone through. I mean, andam. You could tell he wanted to keep him at bay as well because that little squeeze at start was heart in your mouth moment. That's what we want to see. We want to see more of that. Yeah Hajar was not happy, as you can probably tell. It was very close. It could have easy had both of them out of the race, but instead, yet, Lawson, what a phenomenal drive to score points in the sprint where all four teams finished he is capitalised on a On a red buall mistake, it's crazy to think the second team have better starts and are able to take points away from the main team. It's truly ridiculous What else to mention from the sprint before we wrap up? Haris had a collision with Alonzso? Yeah, that's changed the complexion of the race entirely, didn't it? Haris Alonsoo Alonz could have got nineteenth, and instead got twentieth. M seeing them in real life I thought they were doing a hybrid race between that forormula two and Forma one That chang how bad Lemon, isn't it? Strol was laapped Stro was lappri though so maybe that's where he lost some time. However, still laped Alonzso ninety one seconds back of course he was spun around But still a long, long way away. It's a seventeen lap race for crying out loud. I think another thing to mention is And this is probably again going back to Australia and how this track is exposing how good your kind of packages and how well you work with these new regulations and stuff becausecause the gaps Asolutely insane. Like even Holkenberg finishing thirteenth is forty seconds off. A Gazlely is eleventh. he finished forty seconds off in a sprint race Yeah is madness, the gap and you do wonder as well if that because they're all overtaking each other as well. they're all losing time. So it just kind of