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From Exclusive: Inside Zohran Mamdani's NYC Sports Equinox (feat. Adam Friedland) — Jun 2, 2026
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Welcome to Pablo Tore Finds out. I am Pablo Tore, and today we're going to find out What this sound is. I to call Jam Donan and I'll be like, He We gota broken this piece. byy the way, nice to meet Jo. right after the ad So one thing to remember about Pablo Tore finds out is that we are unapologetically based in my hometown of New York City whichich also means that I did not have a yard growing up And that I love getting out of our studio to touch grass. Is this the mansion? Yes it is But while previous adventures have taken us bird watching in Central Park Not to mention our journey to Death Row in Texas. This was different. This here is me walking towards the highly secure backyard of a two hundred and twenty seven year old house on eighty eighth street in Manhtan with yellowish clapboard located right by the East Rriver called Gracy Mansion. current resident just happens to be living a sports year while running a sports town that justified a rare sensation these days. Sedan projects that Democratic Socialist Zoran Mam Dani, the Democratic candidate, will be elected the next mayor of New York, New York. We have held our breath for longer than we know We have held it in anticipation of defeat, held it because the air has been knocked out of our lungs too many times to count. Held it because we cannot afford to exhale. Thanks to all of those who sacrifice so much, we are breathing in the air of a city that has been reborn Aaran Mamani joined PTFO back before he won the election to become the new mayor of New York City last fall at age thirty four, which was before his favorite soccer club, Arsenal, lifted their first Premier League trophy in more than two decades Just last week. And before, his favorite basketball team, the New York Knicks, made the NBA finals for the first time in almost three decades D after that. It's over belieelve it Nick fans for the first time in twenty seven years. The New York Nicks are going to the NBA finals. The dream season continues. But now it was a brisk Saturday in Manhattan, a bit of a sports equinox for the gooner, as arsenal supporters are known, living at Gracy Mansion Game seven between the Thunder and the Spurs, the next next opponent was looming that evening and the Champions League final Agst Europe's defending champs Pari Sandjamin was less than an hour away. may help explain why the mayor showed up for our quick but wide ranging visit with an arsenal kit that was tucked underneath his suit jacket. What up Thanks for having us in your yard You're already, already just gooning Just straight gooners Is that not it? No Gooners, sorry, Goner ring, but it's not a verb for us. I, I don't know Not for me. H, absolutely. It's a real yes and situation Yeah, ye Your hair looks great I was gonna say, this I need to I need to mog the mayor I've been below drying my hair. have you? Yeah, I started. Act. Yeah It's a lot of maintenance, right? I know. this is I'm forty and I'm like, Hirlin's looking great. Philippines, man. The Philippine DNA. I than my amx atough. Are you really? Is that a sponsored ad read? I'm just telling you the truth When, since when? This is like six months ago? Six months ago. I just started to see. I was like, this is not. that's the job. The job does that. It was like pre job. J's just mortality. Just like trying to push off turkey. Like out of the term. How long will it be? Okay if I just clip to your back sure. Tillil you show up in an airport in Turkey with a disguise on How are you doing otherwise? I'm good I'm good. You cold I'm freezing. I I get you like a thermal That would be deeply emasculating. No one would see you wearing it. It would be under your t shirt. Now they're capturing all this. Okay Are you in your yard very awesome This is my favorite place When you're on the porch, what are you doing? Making calls, having meetings. Pay to God about the Champions Lague final A mix. We are talking on the brink of something. Yes. and I want to know before we get into all of the Nick's arsenal stuff Just you woke up today feeling how. Terrified. exxcited And I just watched the official video from the arrsenal Twitter account The Tom Hiddlleson. Oh my God We are the arsenle This is what we do. Weeping at a social media video is where our loal supporters are. That's where we are I just I just quote tweeted. didn't even tell the team they're going to find out Ball caps, just go rogue. Come on. It's been twenty years I need to clarify for people who don't know Anything about soccer, football The type of fan you are You're a football manager, Yes. entthhusiast. Yes, which is some like really sick sick Disgusting. I would I spend hours watching dots play against dots in a virtual ame. For those who don't know, this is a game where you don't actually you're not the playre the player. You're the manager And then you watch the players play. It's like Playing Madden if you didn't control anything except for who played You were doing like balance sheets and infrastructure. Yes, yes. Scouting settling scores that I had from the real world. Whatn't wait hold on. How do you exact vengeance on the real world? Just like the players that we would be rumored to sign every year. There's a guy named Sebastian Frery, who was a goalkeeper. Every year it was like a rumor And I was like, I'm doing it myself. I sign I'm signing him Deed football manager prepare you for the job of being mayayor of New York City You know, the combo of football manager Sims and roller coaster Tycoon was exactly the kind of training I needed to go through I just want to imagine the responsible roller coasters you were designing They were incredible. Theyay were like the cyclone Did you know the cyclone was founded the year before sliced breread cyclone and then sliced bread. Yeah. This is Camille Naniani putting me outt of this So me specifically, I watched the show. Wa hold on, th because the cyclone in Coney Island. People are like, this is the oldest thing since last brered. And I think that's nineteen twenty eight cyclle as nineteen twenty seven, finding out so much already.ave you been Of course.scredible. Born and raised in New York City, Manhatt The wooden roller coaster, though is a good metaphor From what it's like to be an arrsenal and a Nicks fan Yeah You're like, we may die. This may break. We may fall off one of this. and yet Currently we're sort of like going towards this glorious Conclusion and I want to Gosh We're outside right now. Yes You are as outside a mayor. As I can remember in my lifetime. Do you keep track of stats like your steps, like biking I Well, I have the city bike app, so that tells me where I am. Can we can we invade your phone? Do have I don't need need my phone with me, but if we if we grab it H you go better. Oh my God Ged and Weep. two thousand four hundred and forty rides is your city bike profile Three thousand one hundred and twenty four miles, four hundred and forty nine hours. Putting in work Very slowly within the speed limit These are These are football manager style statistics. Y sam, baby. You have to live like a New Yorker to understand what New Yorkers actually need to see from City Hall. If you just live in your tinted window vehicle You're going to start to confuse your own needs for that of the city. My favorite thing in the world remains just walking through New York. Yeah Endless discovery, spontaneous stuff happens And this month I think I've like, in huffing the pheromones Very interesting way of saying it You felt it? Yes. This city is not just ex. I would say this city is alive. The city is horny The city has been pent up And in the New York Nick specifically, there is this promise of Oh my God, this whole thing like It feels like a small town, which is amazing for a city like this. It also is like this. situation where Goliath gets to be David. likeike an actual like We're underdogs. We are really are underdogs. We are So to walk around and to hear and feel what the city iss like right now. Even me, I'm surprised by how good it's felt. It feels incredible I mean, it feels, I think the way you describeed it is right in Specifically, let me say which part of his description was right is is the feeling of a small town. the feeling of when you see somebody whether they're wearing a Nix jery or not, it's just let's go Ns It feels like the undercurrent emotion is that of joy. Yeah and excitement. You're willing to give somebody the benefit of the doubt because everybody's just praying and just kept feeling like, surely this is too good to be true And we actually have Spurs and OKC going to a game seven. Yeah. shhout out to Weby's E Fit Where did you get your eeds fit? Because it is unprecedented, I think. I saw a photo. A Vusman Dembelle from PSG. I don't know if it was real or AI. PSG inspired. Well you know, I just was like if these guys are doing this, he had like a full A full faux on I was like, let's make an arsenal courta And there's a guy part of the Brooklyn Invincibles who designs kind of custom made jerseys And we hit him up and we just said, is there any way you could make a Kurta And he hit up his tailor and Now my uncle's hitting me on WhatsApp asking how to order it and I'm like brother, this was a one of one. I do like the idea that sometimes you're just sending your staff for us like, I don't know if this is AI or not, but if it's real I want one with these. We gotta make this. One of the things that I have been promised or rather I've been reporting for years is Via Mike Breen, who's the play by boys. of course of the next C game. I mean, what she has said? is that he has never triple banked The Kicks making the finals That is what would deserve that moment. Yeah. And so how many children will be born with Nick players' names if Mike Green triple bangs during the NBA? A lot of jails You know? some cats, some cats Some Josh's. Dpending on Mitchell Robinson's pinky also someome of Gougas? Yes. Yes. Shout outs. The noises that the city is making, it does bring me to the idea I'm so good a se. of real way works The presresident Donald Trum has said now officially. I think I'll be going to one of the games. I was invited by numerous people And Jim. And for Nick fans who are contemplating Booing the president You're very good at politics. What counsel would you offer them upon hearing that they may be considering such a I think one of the things I've learned is don't give advice to other N exp fans. They will make their own decisions. I haven't given anybody advice on how to respond to me You know, some people are happy when they see me, some people They're not feeling the vibe, That's what it's always going to be. And so I think I think the thing we're most excited about is J having the final seran. So if you're both a fan and a mayor, I imagine that inside of you, there are two wolves And so you got to be the guy who's like coming back You can't wait for the party, but also you're kind of The dean on campus who's like, I got to make sure these kids aren't fallen off of porches. So Have you thought already about? I mean, you're the guy who managed New York City through a historic blizzard Have you already begun to Manage to examine how to do this well, the parade, a celebration, if it, of course, comes to that You know, we we have to prepare for everything. And I think what we want to prepare for is a city where people can actually enjoy themselves. Yeah. And even just like looking at the radio City musical watch party then how people kind of pour out into the streets. People have been waiting to feel this. I mean, you look at all these Nnix fans videos of the years that we have lived through The starting fives over the years and now where we are So we're planning for all the logistics. I'm not going to say things out loud to curse anything But I will say that We're excited for N nextx fance to have the summer of our lives. Yeah One of those faces that you see in those highlight in those reels, those archive vault tapes is Charles Oakley And Charles Oakley is a protagonist who is Not welcome at the garden these days. Jim Dolan and him do not see eye to eye. We've reported with Wired magazine about the surveillance state at the garden. You've said that you're looking into this And you said this uh in addition to Cosponsoring a bill about biometric surveillance Would you do the impossible and broker a peace between Charles Oakley and James Dolan I will I can't make a promise now that I'm not sure if I can keep, but I will try that because I think that This moment is for the whole city. And it's a moment where Pople are willing to look forward after a long time for us just being looking in the rear view mirror And And I think that what we want to do is make sure that every New York can enjoy themselves and that includes everybody you mentioned I do have a specific political proposal for you to consider. We have some documents. this executive the words farewells We might put that in post as well. J leave that a little. but But if you wouldn't mind reading what we've proposed Okay Proclamation, whereereas Oklahoma City Thunder Guard, Shy Gilas Alexander. is clearly the most egregious flopppper this side of James H. disagreement thus far Whereas no New Yorker shall approve of nor engage in such thirsty behavior on the court of basketball, nor in the courourt of public opinion Now therefore eyes are run Cy Dunny Mayor of the City of New York do hereby proclaim june twenty sixth in the city of New York as shy. You'll guess Alexander. No flopping months The first one Whereas, New York nexts forward Mcale Bridges is a playoff hero Rzed Cotch got the fifty ninth Street Bidge named after him So we might as well name every single O the Miale Bridich during the finals therefore I Sarano Nanni Mayor of the City of New York do here by proclaimune twenty six in the city of New York as. Nicole Bridges Bridges Mind. I feel like we can get these signed. You know? We got seies from the legal team But I will tell you wororthy of consideration Don't flop in the city. wororthy of consideration. too the refs we were watching But the flops happen anywhere. Come on I have a One more thing to show you on my phone because our friend Adam Friedland, who is Asychopath. Shoutouts. I said, What should I ask the mayor? And he said, As him about the tweet. And I said, what tweet I am not of your culture. Uh, and said this tweet, would you Please read the tweet that you had said. N thought I'd be more hopeful about socialism than arsenal And yet here we are That was november twenty second, twenty twenty. Yes, it was Yess it was. We've been through tough times, man It's been a long six years, almost It's been It was twenty two years waiting for a title This is twenty years to even get to a Champions League final. It's, you know, we went from beauty to banter. That was what our team was And now we're back We both up now, baby And so t the end here, I guess, As my producer, Chris is wearing his own, come on, garb The question he told me to ask you was what do we think of Totnam Eer first He said Come on Congratulations to them for staying in the league. Big achievement. Big achievement You can't get beat by arsenal if you're not playing arrsenal. so ok sppoken like a mayor about to watch his favorite team do something. Do happening Perhaps ReJ finally climactic release. Pray to God That's what no C him saying no, endnd it on my great joke and see. N see That was awesome. It's a good time. Dude.old James Dolan and I'll be like, hey They gotta brok this piece. byy the way, nice to meet Jo There was a lot more in case you were wondering that I wanted to ask the first Democratic socialist mayor of New York City Just like that, Zaran Mam Danni was off to an arsenal bar in Brooklyn with PTFO gooner producers following close behind Club's first ever Champions League trophy at stake We watchatched Arsenal score in the first six minutes, go up one nill Only for a PSG penalty kick to tie it about an hour later Snding the game into extra time And then with the score still frozen at one one One of the most unsatisfying rituals in sports began Penalty shootout which Arsenal lost Finally After setting their last kick clear over the bar High and far enough. seem to go from Budapest to Oklahoma City where Viictor Webanyama's Spurs ensured a rematch later that night of the last NBA finals the Kicks had made back in nineteen ninety nine. on this topic I am not saying that we influenced the legislation Mayor Mamdani just announced yesterday But he did do this Who's ready to watch the next Who's ready to watch the next win the championship All right, here we go. Here is our mayor's order, repealing kids' bedtimes for the next finals run. Are we ready? Who here was alive in nineteen ninety nine? No, you were not. You were? Okay, we're gonna talk about that later. I don't know All right, hereere we go. We' got in in Okay, my friends Executive order? I. I love. That time is repealed. All of you can watch the finals. How do you feel And yet, all of that applause is not where I could end the show in good conscience And before we let you go here, There was one more call that I felt I needed to make too someone slightly older than those kids They're like, yeah, there' guys that are like Baltimore Ravens look incredible this year Howypathetic is that? How lame does that sound? Is that what I sound like to them Oh, Sean McVeigh's offensive genius A master cllass. That is the aforementioned Goner Socialist sympathizer guy who has a really good fake British accent, Adam Friedeland And I think he should probably be the last voice that you hear on this episode Because in our ongoing study of optimism demands that we contemplate what it means when You lose It's a shootout. It's the stupidest way to head the game. I don't know. This is arbitrary. Okay, listen, what we managed to do this year was extraordinary We managed to win the league and nearly win a double with no attack This is incredible Arsal has figured out how to Be the best at set set plays. You know where the set play is, Pablo Yes, yes, I do. Free kick or a quarter kick Uh Arsenal are the best at getting a guy like I six four guy in We were always the team that was like, Oh, sorry, they're too soft. They're too soft. We used to get pushed around by guys. And then in this last iteration, we got a bunch of guys that are six four And we figured out pragmatism And I'm not giving you anything useful right now. I'm sure for your podcast Arson Vger in the period I watched, that was Vladimir Ilich Lenin. That was the socialist ideal of the game. And that's exactly what people imagine a phone call with you about soccer would be like. by the way. And and then Mikel Artetta is Joseph Stalin. It is the socialist ideal becoming beccoming fascistic And set plays are his Leningrat Or Stalinggrrad, sorry or whenever playays are us throwing two million bodies at Hitler in the Russian winter to win the war You know what I sound like I sound like a guy that's like You know Belichick's favorite part of the game is special teams. you know. And if you're really If you're watching this shit match, I'm watching a chess match. you know, you know less than me One of the things that I talked to the mayor about. Oh, cool. conrats. Congratulations It was it was just this notion of like, wow, optimism is palpable And so I want to imagine Adam that u Artetta has invited you into the dressing room post game to address troops and you have one minute So give you a summary of what this actually all meant and what we've learned here And you would say to them So those lads, what Oh my gos, you guys are we've come so far We're like a real teap We were a joke boys We were an absolute joke. We were people love to see us lose. No one can say to you guys It's amazing. It's amazing. We're We're strong now. We'll get We'll get a couple of guys that know how to score goals and we're probably going to beat everyone five mil next year But you guys managed to do this this year. It's's it's ridiculous It's insane. You guys are so good at sports I just want to say to you guys, You're so good at sports And I love him You did awesome for what we had How did you do it? Gabrielle missed a penalty. Should we put a defender in as fifth penalty taker I don't know, he's a senior member of the team. It's such a stupid way to end a game I agree It's like play rock paper scissors at the end of You say You know, arsal or a reminder you're going die one day That's what it is. It's, you know It felt like nature returned to Half kid the big the big the big climbacks of your of your post game speech is lads, lads Just a reminder.re We're all gonna die one day. Yeah And if we were Manchester City We would be guys that don't think about dying And we would be I think society calls them We would be guys that like, you know, like che cheat on our wives and I know that all of you guys have never cheated and Y guys are good people because No ye yeah. It' it is it. I just felt incredible at the end of that game because it's like it I've never seen us at this level. Were with Zoron sad This is the next question I have for you is that he's immediately moving on to the NBA finals So as a as as an actual NBA nerd, do you have a parting thought for the mayor as he navigates Nick Spurs for the NBA title It is a very similar thing kind of. how did he do it? He balanced the budget and he got the vicks to the finals. How do you do and the arsenal one thee What's what is with him? He's He's kind of cooking There's that you read him in the tweet, right? I say you the tweet But we read the tweet. Those are the two latest things to like Arsenal and socialism, we suck This has been Pablo Torere findinds out, a Meadalark media production and I'll talk to you next time.
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