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You can make six dollars. I did the math. I think it might have been like a hundred twenty had I been able to get it, which is bet you know, I'm starting my own business here. I'll take anything I can get, even sort of evil dollars from Elon. Despathana, did you know of David Cavucci before the Diana Russini Spotify playlist? I did. I've been following his newsletter, subscribing to his newsletter for a long time now. Oh, thank you. I mean, Foyaball is one of the all-time great sports newsletter ide as. I'd been kicking around in my head for a while and like any good journalist I got laid off and just figured now was the time to try my own thing. So I was able to hit the ground running because I had a lot of energy behind it. But it's it's still very new. It's only been publishing for eight months. So I'm very thrilled by the response so far. And was it therefore cruel when the thing that everybody broadly knew you for who isn't at this table was like you're the Diana Russini Spotify playlist guy. Not necessarily because the last Firal Foy I did was pretty uh I don't think my parents were too happy about that one. Wait a minute. Hold on. What what was the last one that you did? Uh if you just Google David Kavucci uh Osama bin Laden. Which I do bi-weekly. Wait a second. The post called you a quote bro? Yes. I was working at a place called Bro Bible the time, which is still somehow one of the only. We're foyering Osama bin Laden stuff at Bro Bible. Yeah. And um Wait, but we I'll just read the headline because now it does kind of track. It says a bro asked the CIA about Osama bin Laden's porn stash, the agency answered. June 10th, 2015 . So actually I sent that request May 26th. So it's almost the 11-year anniversary of that. Happy anniversary. And eventually I was part of some appeals that were brought and we got the we didn't we got the record so it's sort of on the You didn't interesting. No, but they did release a lot of his laptop files where it revealed he was um like watching Tom and Jerry during the day and stuff like that. So I have my very first FOIA I ever sent was the CIA and I got like results. So I think that's pretty good. I I don't know is Tom and Jerry anime? I think it's the original. Was it easier or harder to FOIA the CIA than college athletic departments? I've only sent one to the CIA and I've had 100% success rate, so I'll go with easier. That seems like it tracks. So just to put a button on the Osama bin Laden Borns dash. We don't know specifically what Osama bin Laden was into as a matter of genre. No. He's dead, so uh you're free to speculate. Well do you want to speculate? Go ahead. I think he's into extensive anime porn. I think one of the reasons I heard back so quickly was because of how I asked. I was like, you know, he's the most wanted man in the world. Like we need to know like what was going on in his mind, you know, while he's being hunted by predator drones and uh US forces. So, like, what got him off? I think I wrote that in my actual request. Um , I have an I have another headline. This is from Mother Jones. CIA tells King of the bros, he can't see bin Laden's porn stash. King of the bros. I had put that just in my Twitter bio like I learned 12 years ago, and um you know when something about you goes viral, you have no control over it. So people were just putting they like, you know, declaratively stated that I was king of the bros. And you know, who was I to object at the time? I was Your Highness. Excuse me for not properly introducing you. But this is this is the thing that I have been bonding with you about in real life. Before you did publish Diana Rossini's Spotify playlist with Mike Frabel called Which feels like a a personal violation. Or great journalism, because Freedom of Information Act requests, FOIA requests are, of course, the sort of etymology of FOIA ball. Yeah. So it was the Freedom of Information Act was a federal law started by one very cranky senator who was upset about uh overclassification of the Department of Defense. And he spent, I think, about 10 years trying to get this bill passed, and then every state in the US adopted laws after that federal legislation was passed. And the idea is that governments derive their power from the people in democracy, so they have a right to see everything you do. Now it was sort of written in the 1960s, so the idea was you would just walk to the mayor's office and say, let me see the plans for the new park, let me see the, you know, construction schedule for the next couple of weeks. It's very quaint. Yeah. In the digital age, that's really metastasized and state institutions have struggled to keep up because they get lots of requests and every school gets like a thousand to two thousand a year. They usually only have one to two people responding to them and those are usually great people who are trying to do their best. But you know, the idea is that they can't hide anything from you. So I believe it's Kentucky even has a clause in its state laws that say, you know, we must release records even if they're embarrassing to the officials involved. So like the idea is that transparency is extremely important. I think it is one of the most important laws we have. But the idea of there is information out there, deeply invasively personal information out there that has been published. It takes us to this December nineteenth, twenty twenty two. Actually, one of your producers hit me up to look into it. He was like, Can you see what you can find? And instead of sharing that with you and we're gonna get into an actual episode. Exactly. And I just fired it out and I felt I felt kind of bad. I was like, I should have passed this along. Uh I should have saved it so we could turn into a whole episode. But it kinda blew up. So um there's a four game Titans losing streak. Mike Vrabel was the coach. Diana Russini makes a playlist in which it is shared with a user who is named Mike. The the the music here It's not good songs, which I think was why this took off. If it had been a really good playlist, I'm not sure if 19 million people are invested in it. But also like if I made a playlist for someone and it became public, no matter who that person is, I would be deeply embarrassed about it because I have a terrible taste in music as well. Cut my life into pieces, this is my last resort, suffocation. Did you have Papa Roach Last Resort, which is the tenth song on this? I no, I did not comment on the quality of the music because a lot of people were instantly just they were calling it garbage, terrible, the worst playlist they'd ever seen. And there were songs on there that were on my wedding must playlist, so I I just zipped my mouth shut. I can, but I wasn't gonna tweet that out. Was Pump It Louder by TS on the Black Eyed Piece? No, no. Uh we played Raise Your Glass by Pinke on, mas s. Oh god. Okay, I I enjoyed my wedding. I'm sorry you didn't. I well I wasn't invited, but maybe this is this is gonna go on the do not playlist on my upcoming wedding uh DJ set list. Would any of these songs make it on your wedding? God of Thunder by Keith. Well, I will say as a Steelers fan, Renegade may be maybe played at the last. Okay . It's but the Steelers play in the third quarter of every home game. Verble played what, a year with the Steelers after he left the Patriots? Okay. I think so people were pointing out that Renegade was on there. But it was shared with the user's name Mike, and uh after it went viral, the user Mike changed the name to Tycar, which is a portmanteau of Mike Rabel's two sons. So, you know, a lot of people were like, maybe it's not him, maybe it's just a random mic that she shared it with, but uh pretty confident in after that. I mean to your point about how how invasive some of the apps are. Well, no, not you. I mean Spotify doesn't need to be a public facing social media app. Like n most people are not using it for that. So the fact that like someone who is a public figure could have a searchable database of what they listen to to me is like I wonder if these people even knew that someone could find this. Well one, of the great, and this is something we've done on this show separately. We did it with the NBA gambling investigation that we did. People don't know that their favorite app is being used as a social media platform. Right. Venmo. Yes. Don't don't talk about Venmo. No, I know. It's too good. It's too good to check everything through the Venmo user base and be like, oh, they forgot. Venmo's gotten a lot of college athletes in trouble because they've put , you know, stupid things on Venmo with names and titles that they shouldn't have put on Venmo and been investigated over it. So And yet I would say that having uh cuff it by Beyoncé. As the first song on this playlist between Mike Raple and Daniel Sini. Probably more embarrassing than Well it's a good song. That one I would Yeah, but it's but the implication. So I'm trying to see if I can find your Spotify playlist. I deleted it. Okay. Because I'm so paranoid about people finding out how much I listen to the Lay Miz soundtrack. I mean it would really be no time. It would shock people. That inheated rivalry. Like it's just going back and forth. But I followed you for a while now and I saw a lot of people were like just accusing you of you know engaging in in smuddy like this isn't fair. Why are you doing this? This is, you know, an invasion of privacy. And you had a response to that. So I'm curious if you have any more thoughts on that. Aaron Powell No, I mean I I understand that argument, I think. Uh, but especially in this day and age, public clickers have sort of lost all uh right to privacy. You know, they all make so much money, they're very famous, you know, they're part of a social contract where they're supposed to live up to certain standards, even if they don't. So I don't have any sort of issue with it. And you know, there are there are probably things I want to publish, but I didn't think that was like I I don't understand how that could have impacted her well-being. She was already accused of having an affair, it's been going on for a long time. This was the thing in your defense and as someone who resembles the the target of the criticism that you just described, which is a fair point to raise for any journalist. This playlist was both hilarious and also I, think, as close to dispositive as it got in this story. Like the reason it went viral was not just because this is so funny. It's how the f else do you spin a relationship at the very least that isn't deeply personal in any other way other than man, these people really did uh have some sort of connection. One of the things I'm really fascinated by is sort of the myths of coaches as you know, omnipotent beings, sort of super hard, dedicated workers who are, you know, always on top of everything, always, you know, one step ahead. Men of integrity. Ex actly. Kings of bros. Showing that showing that that's not exactly the case. I think there's a lot of illusions built up around a lot of public figures in this world and it's fun to to shatter those as best I can. Also the digital literacy aspect of it that I think is you could say it's generational, but I do think it impacts any one in any generation that you don't realize how you're being tracked across these apps. And we should we should say that for those not familiar with your oeuvre, my liege , uh Rabble and Rossini, not the first Yes, and and this was just a couple weeks apart. I think I was on a Spotify searching kick. Sometimes I'll find sites that I like to sort of dig into and look at a lot of people. But Lane Kiffin, when he was run out of well, not run out of old messy, left old mess and then was also run out. Um a lot of his uh Pilates instructors and hot yoga teachers were sort of burning him on TikTok after the fact. And I I don't know why I started searching this one, but I found a a Pilates playlist that he listens to from a studio in Baton Rouge. The Pilates playlist was great. I listened to it like three times in a row while I was writing an article about it. So his stuff was much better than although he didn't come up with it. He just stole it from an instructor. Yeah. And it did seem like the Pilates um community coming after him was what really hurt him the most in the midst of that debacle . Well hold on the username here. ML Kiffin. Yes, we did deduce today that he is legally Monty Lane Kiffin, which is not what his Wikipedia page says. No. This is the fact checking phase. Uh Wikipedia says that he is Lane Monty Kiffen. And what you're here to report is that that is inaccurate. Yes, and as he is going, you know, being persecuted in the media right now, we should note his initials are MLK. Uh son of Monty Kiffin, making him, I believe, MLK Jr. I don't think anyone could quibble with that. At the very least, he's MK Ultra, the more famous of the MKs, the Monty Kiffins. Just on the playlist, Jess. Like you're a are you a Pilates person? Not to not to profile you. It is spot on accurate profiling though. Yes. I go to Pilates like six days a week. And the playlist strikes you as what? Uh you know, there's a lot of terrible Pilates playlists out there. I've been subjected to listening to many of them. This one was not bad. I just like the idea that Jess is like, can we get a little more Le Miz? I mean if you did a remix to one day more in Pilates , I think it would really get the the group going. Yeah, I want to stretch out uh empty chairs at empty tables. Oh no, don't make me cry pop up. I had a spin instructor who always played a like techno remix of Defiant Gravity as the last song. It was it was great. I I loved it. It came on it played it a lot, but it always went, yeah. Oh I love that. Where does the drop come in? When she defies gravity? Are you are you are you kidding? There's like the movie. Have you seen the movie? There's like ten drops in the they they stretched that song out so much. They were like, we know the sequel's not gonna be that good, so we're gonna make Defying Gravity a 20 minute long scene in the first wicked . I'll I'll leave the singing to y'all. His excellency does not partake in such shenanigans. I have my court jesters here for me. Oh god. We're jester maxing. So the thing that brought us together originally, before I tried to hire you as a bounty hunter to get good information on Diana Roussini and that whole story, was who else but Jordan Hudson? Oh god. That is the appropriate reaction. I find her charming. I would like to state for the record I had no idea what we were going to talk about when I came into the office today, but so far, two for two on guesses. We have we have some surprises planned though. Oh, I love a surprise. Well, the the thing about Jordan as a character in a story of public records is that she is not so different from you and I, it turns out. No, she has been submitting public rec ords to UNC. She sent four in December and two in April, trying to track down all the school's communications basically about her. She's looked for the term girlfriend. She's looked for communications with CBS. Jess, could you please read the uh first bullet point? Yes, it's a request and it says correspondence received or sent that includes the terms Hudson, Jordan, Belichick, girlfriend in the subject or body of the email. Insofar as we are also people who file public records requests of North Carolina, which I have done, which we have done as a show here, and you have done separately at FOIA , what happens is you realize as you're getting these requests, the paperwork back that someone else is also doing the same thing, except she is the girlfriend of the head football coach who is the highest paid employee in the state of North Carolina, which I will dare say is an unprecedented dynamic. How many states do or schools, I guess, do let you see requests? So some of them are very easy to see: Iowa, North Carolina, Oregon, uh, but you can request them. They're public records themselves. You can request the requests. You can watch the watchmen. North Carolina receives a public records request or a series of them from not only David Cavucci and Pablo Torrey finds out, but Jordan Hudson. How do we understand their response to Jordan to be. So I then this sort of becomes a Russian nesting doll where I requested all the requests that Jordan had sent to see what she got back. I think she requested your requests of her requests. She did, and then she sent me a little DM just waving and I was like, that's But on Instagram, she DM'd you. She DM'd me on Twitter. She followed me on Instagram. Oh. And she has not watched any of my stories since she followed me, which I I We're offended. But do you post good stories? I don't post much, but I do have a dog and I post photos of of her, so like I think she would appreciate it. Maybe do you think she's a dog person? Well, I don't know. Oh, she's a she had a parrot. She's a parrot person. Yeah. She's a bird person. The David is the only person who knows more about Jordan Hudson than me. Only because I have wanted to impress you and just text you the randomest things. She's she was posted in R slash birds a long time ago. Um, I've not what on the bird subreddit, yes. So she sends you a message basically saying so that you're aware fully I am watching you. That's what I figured it was because I replied and I said, Hey, you know, I hope you haven't been hacked or something. That's you know, I assume this is legit, but then she never wrote back, which is a little sad. And so when you request the requests of the requests, Carolina response is I presume saying for f sake guys. I I feel I have probably gotten that response from some colleges. But they did seem to be keeping tabs on the fact that she was sending them. Um the like head of communications for the athletic department was CC'd on them. She then sent that to uh Brandon Faber, who's like Belichick's PR man, his chief of staff, which I love to imagine poor Belichick's chief of staff having to decide whether to go tell him. Like it went to the the A ADD and in waiting and it also went to the top communications officials. So six people were informed that she was sending FOIAs. Which is not standard for all of the FOIAs. I don't think so. I haven't requested everyone else's FOIA is to see that, but like in communications I've seen, no, it doesn't seem like they're making it to the highest levels of the school. The particular topics that seem to be animating Jordan Hudson's Inquisition , it seems to still go back to the interview on television that broke the story wide open for like the mainstream, which is that CBS interview and her interactions with the network. Jordan was a constant presence during our interview. How did you guys meet? Not talking about this. No. No. It's a topic neither one of them is comfortable commenting on. What in the records requests sort of indicated the CBS stuff? How obvious was it? So Jordan was requesting emails between the university and a producer at CBS. And there's nothing there. You know, most people are just doing their job. They're asking about interviews. There wasn't UNC wasn't like emailing surreptitiously, like, please ask about the relationship. Please blow this up. So, in all the requests she's gotten back, I haven't found anything that she could use or be interesting. It's just sort of very basic stuff. But also just to state the obvious, like I I can put myself in the shoes of a television producer having done that before. If I was up to some nefarious business with an end goal inside when I'm not saying CBS was, I wouldn't be putting that over public communication either. So you'd have to be both complicit in wanting to make her look bad, but also careless enough to put it over an email that someone like you could find that out via a FOIA request. Aaron Powell It is unlikely that there would be some again to borrow the language of our time, some smoking gun. A paper trail. Paper trail that has, aha . Everyone was colluding against us, me and Bill, or at least me, Jordan Hudson. It's unlikely that there would be that sort of evidence. But the attempt to make sure, the attempt to find out, I both relate to and find so fascinating because. Okay, so we're like the scene in Austin Powers where Dr. Evils talking to Aust in Powers and he's like, we're not so different, you and I. Remember when I told you we're not so different, you and I? We're not so different, you and I . See, I did say that. Mm-hmm. But it's you and Jordan Hudson. That's right . I get where we're going here. After stories about her doing after my stories about her doing public records requests blew up, she responded to I think Stuart Mandel tweeted about it and she said, Oh, so it's only fantastic when the athletic does it. I replied, I said, No, I think it's great that you're doing this. I think it's very interesting. Yeah, I would love to know why, though. Like, what do you think is is out there? And maybe, you know, for a lot of people who are new to it, you do think there's a smoking gun. You know, when I first started my career, uh I figured I could get everything. And you sort of have to learn how state employees work, how they communicate, um, what platforms they use. And so it takes a little bit of learning, but she's she's getting there. I I I I wouldn't I wouldn't her out. Are you offering to tutor Jordan Hudson in public records requests? The problem why a lot of records offices are overworked is that a lot of corporations use it to get contract info, to get better, make more competitive bids, get information, you know, that can lead to a better profit. Journalists don't use it as much as you would think. Correct. Um, but I do believe anyone can send a FOIA request and I think anyone should. So uh I sure if she is listening to this, I will give her my uh intro to public records seminar. It's about sixty minutes, I can teach her how to get exactly what she wants. And so the question that I have now is okay. So Jordan Hudson is doing this over here. And is Bill Balich ek in on these requests? Does he have a sense that this is even happening? Is he supportive of this? And we don't have the evidence , I suggest one way or the other in the records that he would be. No. But we do have from earlier this week an interview that he gave, uh Bill Belichick gave Sean Hannity, the King of Fox News. And it sort of expresses a certain level of perhaps media criticism as well. Like CBS, I I was stunned at how horribly you were treated. I couldn't believe it. I couldn't believe it either. I was stunned. I hope you saw him . Well, you know, uh as we've seen recently, uh there have been more editing problems um and they go back to over a couple of years, multiple examples of editing and interview process and all that. Uh you know, I thought uh that the interview I had with them was done very deceptively and um I've asked for the transcript from them and they won't give it to me. They've done that with other You can have the transcript. I'll give it to you. Yeah. So um kind of confused about their some of the things that they say they are, but I don't I don't really see them living up to the the trust that they uh that they talk about. And on Tuesday, incidentally, Jordan Hudson promoted this SABE clip of Bill Belichick talking to Sean Hannity on her Instagram stories. Can you imagine listening to an hour of that? Like the two charisma-less individuals that I've ever listened to. My God. In a wood paneled uh billiards hall. Yes, like a smoky cigar lounge. And I think it's worth reminding people that the brain trust here, the inner circle of Bill Belichick, part of the reason why I've been again both like trying to be self-aware but also so serious in my embrace of this stupid story is because he is the highest paid employee in the state of North Carolina. And he has these two advisors that are so, I think, essential to understanding how this archetype of how to live in public has been turned inside out. One of them, Jordan Hudson, the other one, if you're wondering like how conspiratorial is this inner circle, the other one happens to be Mike Lombardi Who is I learned a JFK assassination truther? And uh I don't mean that in a derogatory sense, he just does not believe the official narrative, and he's gone on uh the Solving JFK podcast twice. Uh in one appearance, he did talk about how the media is spinning a narrative against the truth, which I think goes to to speak a lot to his mindset. The media creates a nar rative. And that narrative will never go away because that's what the media wants to create. And part of the attraction for me for this case is this never-ending des ire by our media to continue with the narrative when they know it's not true. That's what resonates with me the most. Why I'm fascinated with this because it's a broader issue than just who did it? Now I'm Dr. Evil looking at Mike Lombardi. I'm like, we're not so different, you and I. The general the highest general manager in college football in Jess Matana. Overlapping Venn diagram when it comes to J . JFK assassination conspira cies. As the media now, why have you been telling us that Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone? Uh what I'm finding out today, Jess, is that I killed JFK. Oh. We did it. You shouldn't say that on camera. Can we cut that? 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Yeah, there's a level of booster where it is a person who is maybe well known in their industry, but they're not like a celebrity famous person. And so everyone will be paying attention to like the former athlete who will be on the sideline or the celebrity on the sideline. But then there's like the country's richest man over here that no one really recognizes but is secretly the money behind the entire operation. Yes. There's like Matthew McConaughey's plural. Uh there are like T-Boon Pickens's. These are sort of like, you know, uh people who live on top of oil wells, I can only presume. But how do we actually find out who is on the sidelines in this era in which Mike Lombardi, by the way, yes, was going to Saudi Arabia to consider can we get money from over there? Who are the people in America that we can actually put a face and a name to? So a lot of states have exceptions for donors to public universities you can't get their names, which I think is a little absurd because they're funneling wealth into these schools and with that comes a lot of influence. And these are places that still should be operated for the benefit of the public good . So I think you should know who gives money to that. So I was recently, I got some documents back from Texas covering some communications with their old NIL uh collective. And they had mentioned that for a million dollars uh given to the athletic department, you could get sideline passes to all Texas football home games for five years. It's actually not that bad if you have it. It's a deal. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You just gotta, you know. I like where we're just at the point in college sports where it's like, that's a steal. Yeah. So what I wound up requesting recently from the University of Texas was a list of everyone who had gotten sideline passes to the games, and that was not protected under Texas public records law. So I was able to see that at an average Texas game, you know, their last home game against Texas AN, there's four billionaires there. You know, two people in oil, uh, one in, I believe, real estate and the guy who married into the Pace Picante family who then salsa again. And then sold the company for a billion a couple years later. And like worth noting now more than ever , these people do play a more direct hand in the success of their universities that they've supported of their football programs than in in years past, I would say. And I would also add to that, you're a Virginia Tech alum. We have no billionaires . James Franklin, though, was the Penn State head coach, and part of the shock of him being fired midseason was how much his buyout was going to be. And so these schools say, well, the thisy bio mone will not come from our university or from our athletic budget. We'll have these private donors. We won't really say who's doing it. And if you are around the university or or you know work in media around the university, maybe you'll know who it is or or hear who it might be, but like these are not things that they publicly advertise where they'll say this booster is actually paying for the Franklin buyout, right? Exactly. It used to be, right? Like you'd put your name on a library. Now kind of the ultimate mark of like being a mover and shaker is you're one of these people on the sidelines who is funding stuff that enables, in this case, the University of Texas to be eight and four. Yes, to be to be eight and four. And still claiming we are the cream of the crop in college sports, which Texas does believe about itself and what they sell about themselves. And the numbers are pretty astounding. I think uh AL.com recently just story that the University of Texas brought in $168 million in donations just to its athletic program last year. So who is on the list that gets access to the sidel ines at the University of Texas. Other than Salsa Air. One of my favorites that I found was a the owner of uh I believe eight car dealerships in the Austin area, which the Austinin Busess Journal said brought in like $700 million in revenue last year, which is wild. I didn't realize card dealerships were, I knew they were generated a lot of money. I didn't realize it was that much. But he uh gave a million dollars to the university a couple of years ago, not to the athletics department, but directly to the school. And he was on the list of people who'd received sideline passes, but he's also currently on trial for uh allegedly burning down several businesses in the Austin area. Four fires in three months. Fire investigators say one man is behind them all. Which operates several car dealerships in Texas. During all four fires, Hordman's Mercedes-Benz SUV was seen on the properties. Fire investigators say they were all set by gasoline and striped matches. Far be it for me to advise how to arson. But leaving allegedly your Mercedes Benz SUV at the scene of each of those stories. Especially when you have access to other cars . Oh, I didn't even think about that. Wow. Wow. There's a burnt orange joke there somewhere. I don't know where it is. Just pretend that like I nailed it. Okay. I reached out to the University of Texas and they didn't respond, but uh I I did find photos of him like on the foundation website at a game recently. And so yeah, all I can cite, I suppose, is this email from twenty twenty four that Brian Hardman sent to the Austin Business Journal in which he denied involvement , and his attorney, for the record, did not respond to requests that you, David, had sent him. What's the biggest reason that there's so much privacy gran ted for these people? Maybe the world uh shouldn't know that what I do is I own and operate a hunting lodge in the state of Texas that allows me to facilitate the killing of exotic wild life. Yes, so that's another billionaire on the list. And according to Forbes, he is co-owner of the Greystone Castle. It's not just a hunting lodge, it is a castle in the middle of nowhere, Texas, where you can hunt Ibex and Impela and Springbok. This castle, this Greystone Castle Sporting Club, the website, Texas Hospitality in an extraordinary setting. We are an Orvis endorsed wing shooting lodge, which is clearly a thing. And your bird hunting trips can include dove, quail, pheasant, Hungarian partridge, duck, and turkey. Combine any of these hunts with our five-star-rated lodging, and you have a hunting trip fit for a king. King of the Bros. If they wanted to chase me for the work I'm doing, you know, like if they want to give me like If they want to hunt sport. I'd not volunteer that. Turnaround is fair play. Well we should be doing it. I don't be a lot in Texas after this, so. Or on R slash birds. I did recently find some messages that former head coaches wrote on uh bombs to Osama bin Laden. Uh all roads. Charlie tr speaking of Notre Dame, Charlie Weiss wrote uh you will lose, um, go Irish. Wait, he like wrote it on a bomb? Yes. I'm sorry, I don't quite understand how one So they did uh a tour like of military bases in the Middle East. Charlie Weiss wrote decided schematic advantage on a f bomb. You guys just love your Patriots head coaches on this show. It's it's I can't be referring to the New England Patriots coaching trick. He wrote it on a bomb you can write on bombs? Yeah, like when you're tour, when you're touring like US Melbourne, they let people write like a big famous. They don't let like they don't let Pablo write. They're not gonna let you do it. It's like it's like a message in a bottle, but the also the exact opposite. Go Irish on the school Irish. Catholic school, dude. What are you doing writing on a bomb? Go Irish? I don't think Pope Leo would have approved of writing Go Irish on a bomb. He wrote Go Irish, but really deserved an asterisk that said America I was almost like, wait, the Irish have you ? What if he was like his last thoughts like, what did I do to the Irish? There's so many levels to what rich people do that I have like no access to. Like shooting springbox, writing on bombs. I I mean, this is just like an unfathomable pastime. Like I I really don't I have nothing. I got nothing on this. If you've ever tried to keep up with the world of wellness and performance, you know that it moves really fast. New products, new ingredients, and new claims all competing for your attention. And that's why the drop by GNC exists. 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