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Welcome to Pablo Tore Finds out. I am Pablo Tore, and today we're going to find out What this sound is. peopleeople think that you know, you can't play for the country of your birth and still wave the flag of your, you know, other you know, your parents countries and in your background while doing so. I think that's completely wrong rightight after the ad So it's a rare opportunity, Tim Weaya to talk to a member of the US men's national team during the World Cup. But thank you for joining us, man. Can you tell us For those who aren't watching, where are you right now? Where are we talking to you from I'm currently at home base in Lagouna, We're at the team Motel And we are in room Can you explain what room What is like these days? The vibes have been great, obviously, getting over that first game and getting over the nerves and Yeah, I mean It's been amazing. I think everyone's on a high And we're just ready, we're preparing for A it so yeah. So the game that we're talking about that happened is the game is Paraguay And can you take me inside? I mean, look, you're a veteran at twenty six, but the World Cup is the World Cup. And so what is the nerve situation like before a game like? This M cup was a bit different than the last, obviously in guitar with my first, so I mean, just the nervousness was crazy. When I was a kid living on my dreams. I'm still living out my dreams to this day, but I think we were I myself as an individual was a little bit, you know, much more calmer this time around You know, I'm just super confident in this group. So I mean, the nerves were And I was pretty. honestly, I was pretty show. The sensation for me as somebody who's I've covered a World Cup before, I'm sort of like a casual soccer fan, but if I'm a representative of Americans, it's in the following way, which is I turned on this game. and just I said to myself Holy We got some dudes It believe what my eyes have just seen. I actually had to check thather this was a US team I was watching. We said to Dream bigig and today was a dream star. It was a complete Dominance. takeake away the first two minutes and it truly was all the United States. I do not think I had see you This good a performance from the US men's National team at any level of the game. The first st couldn' have been any better. Iven've seen a US team play that well I've watched the US socc forty years. This was the best game they've ever played on international stage. One of the absolute top three performances of a US team the last twenty, twenty five years. The first half was as good as I've seen any national team play in any tournament, let alone the World Cup. What was it like to watch how that game unfolded in terms of your teammates, this team announcing itself to the world like that. Yeah, it was amazing. I knew we were going do something special. I fully believe in this group. I believe in our qualities U But that was that was buzzing. I mean, the support that we got from the fans was was amazing Like I said, When you want to start a World Cup strong, you want to start like that. You want to dominate And I think we did exactly that and we looked amazing while doing it. I think in a lot of our past games We struggled with being aggressive and out of that killer touch when we needed to. And I think You know, we found it. I think that's what that's what friendlies are for and now Like I said, it counts when you're in the World Cup, so it was wonderful seeing everything unfold So this is where I need to say that when we first asked if Tim Weaya could spend a little bit of time with us During the World Cup itself It was before the USB Paraguay forty one in Los Angeles And the biggest reason we had asked Tim for some time is because of a remarkable biographical detail about the twenty six year old forward A detail without any real comparison in sports to my knowledge whichich is that Tim Wea was born here in New York City But his father In case you did not know this is George Wa? Who until just two years ago? was the president of Liberia The former star footballer George Weyer has been named winner of Liberia's presidential election, easily beating his rival in the country's first democratic transfer of power in seven decades. According to the National Election Commission, with ninety eight percent of all votes counted, W I received more than sixty percent In case you did not know, George Waya also happens to be one of the greatest professional soccer players of his generation back in the nineties. playing at Monaco and Ferez Andrew Man and AC Milan and Chelsea. And so we will get to some of that story here Th that changed, The that opened eyes all around the world happened against Paraguay When we all watched Tim Weya and his teammates do something very special on their home turf In fact Tim's friend and fellow forward, Flo Balligan It's something very special Twice. What was your favorite of all the goals? I don't I don't wantan to I you the jury. Yeah. I was going to say that second goal Yeah for him was because it Not only just the finish, I think the buildup, you know, he showed his strength shows that you know, the action never dies A lot of strikers, you know, when they get hit in the back in the box, they could have fell over and he chose to stay up and go all the way And then the placement of the finish was just world class so You know, I know what los my boy. I know what he can he can deliver ed us He showed on the big stage. I'm super proud of. And then in the closing minutes for good measure, The United States began to string together pass after pass after pass after pass. this truly musical sequence of twenty six passes in all from left to right culminating in Temwaya Alex Freeman and Geo Rena And then, you know, I just remember receiving the ball from from Freeman and having enough space to drive For a few, I was in the pocket, so I was blocking the past to Go. And when I gave back to Freeman, I heard you screaming for the ball behind me. so I moved out of the pocket and Gia was right there The U.S men's national team. has never won the World Cup before That win over Paraguay wound up being the most watched telecast in the history of the team, averaging eighteen million viewers So with the United States playing again today against Australia. I wanted to try and understand this moment through the eyes of a player who did not have to represent the United States but chose to The announcement to the whole country was like, this is a TV show you're going to want to watch And how much pride is there in just that communication because there's a lot going on right now that you guys are competing with in terms of the attention span of Americans. You know, when you're playing in a competition like this, whether it's on home sol or not, you want to Have heard people behind you And that was our plead from the start was just bringing everyone together, no matter your religion, no matter your race She's bringing everyone together in love and support for their country. and we got their attention now. so it's a beautiful thing to see. you know when you have a big sporting moment like this, it's important to make sure that you perform at a certain level to where you can attract the eyes and the crowd and the support And I think everyone's on notice now. it's a beautiful thing. So I think the support throughroughout the rest of the tournament, the other games are going to be Unbelievable. So I'm super excited and I'm just happy to be a part of this group and . to be represented my country. It's a blessing The recurring sort of conversation among a lot of Americans is this sort of thought experiment. What if America's best athletes played soccer And you're familiar with this, obviously, this sort of like debate talking point. And at this point I'm wondering what you think when you hear that line of argument, given obviously what that match was like, but given also what the evolution of this team has been How do you explain that to people? I mean, you don't really explain it to people, you just let people say what they want I think that we were all destined to do something in his life, whether that's play basketball, whether that's play soccer, whether that's play football. So Of course, I think that in a sense If You know, football was a bit more accessible in the states. you would definitely have different amount of talent come out and it would be crazy. But at the end of the day, we're young in the sport in that sense compared to all the other countries and we're still growing And you know, I'm just happy to be at the forefront of that now And the future is bright. I think you know, Depending on what we can do as a group in this tourner and how we can you know, grow the sport in America, It's going to be something that's beautiful for the sport. So don I don't really get into the debate of what if our best athletes play play the sport. I think you know, the current, the current athletes that we have are great in their space and what they do And you know, we just we're just working hard to be great in our space too. So hopefully, Hopefully we can do the job. and ye I mean, look, that's a very humble and diplomatic answer. But my reaction watching you guys in that match against Paragy was like, yeah, we got the athletes. They're here you can stop wondering what it looks like We have the talent and When you think about it, like I always say, you know, when I was growing up, soccer wasn't the biggest sport in the states It was always basketball, American football, baseball, hockey. and You know, soccer was just our our niche. soccer was just our our home. It was we had the love for the game. but I think the current team that we have now has a whole bunch of quality and we're growing. A lot of the guys are playing overseas. We have MLS guys who are doing amazing at their clubs and You know, that just meshes well together. And I think what we needed was time. to show the world that you know, we're capable of competing with the best I mean, for people who don't know your background where you came from, there's a lot to your story. but I think you self identify almost first and foremost as a New Yorker, right hundred percent. Yeah, deffinite So I grew up born and raised in Manhattan, and lived here my entire life forty years Can you Explain to me what it was like to be a young Tim Wea growing up. I think in Brooklyn and then in Queens. What's that scene like? Yeah, growing up. I mean I was I born in Brooklyn We moved to Florida for a little bit and then moved back to Queens when I was a a younger kid Gring up in New York was Just as a kid it was fun. a melting pot of different cultures, different religions, you learned to love everybody. You learned to to share place with everybody. I think that's the most beautiful thing about New York Football was always always around every single day, every weekend We would go to my uncle's team in Rose down and we wouldd kick ball We'd trained, we'd have fun. I think um New York gave me such a wonderful childhood And still to this day, when I go back home, I still have the same friends, the same community I see the same people, so it's definitely wonderful. and being a kid And having that experience is definitely something special. so Yeah, I hold New York very close to my heart. I mean, being a Kicks fan, there are a lot of you guys, it seems on this team on the US men's national team. Oh know. There's some questionable fans. I don't know. I've never heard a lot of a lot of the guys who talk about the Kicks now talk about the Kicks before so No. Okay so hold on, because the scene that went viral, I wanna replay this video that you posted. this is from after Game four, which I consider as good a game as there will ever be in the history of sports Rain bro Oh G, help me wor We're in the players' lone so We have this nice setup Like we had in Qatar, there wass like a whole bunch of seeds tonight huge screen that you could just go on there W shows, watch the games, watch the World Cup games, sports in general So that's where we're like that's where we hang out most of the time. The person who looked very sad that you were sort of like, you're doing like a spikely dolly shot on him, like zooming way in. that Haji, That was Haji. had his braids out I was Hiji. Hji right? So why why were you choosing to torture him? So Hji is a Lagers fan And for some reason, he was hate watching the next Throughout the whole playos, I was like, okay All, but it's us against you. So it was it was funny in that moment. He was just You're just sick It was It was fun. How much did you let yourself be what all New Yorkers can be? when they are feeling themselves, which is truly obnoxious. How much did you let that? version of New York come out in that room. and over this past week with the next when not even just in that room. like the whole week I was on hj the whole week I was like, N that, Nick is that, Nick is that. It was it was Nix everything that we He was hatewing. So there was a lot of going back and forth for me and him, but You know, we ended up on top so Definitely be super happy about that What was it like to watch your hometown, New York City have the celebration of all time while you're of course on a different mission It was amazing. I mean You know, my lifetime being a part of of something so historic that is the next winning. It's just a morale boost. It's is something that It's something that dreams are made of. It's something that makes you want to dream to win something. So I think you know, experiencing that and the joy that, you know, they gave us, that's kind of the same feeling that we can give to people who support us and our supporters who are watching us. So I think You know, they they kind of just pumped this up For what that comes, I'm super I'm super proud of them and I'm happy that you know, we all got that experience as a team Have you already made a call to Wu Tang Klan that if things get a little hairy that you'll get Method Man to perform at halftime Nix in five, What y'all talking about? out Ounny enough, I was at I think it was either Game three versus Cleveland and Method Man had a performance. He performed that night. Oh you were there? Yeah, I was at the garden when he performed. But I was up in the boxes. We couldn't get floor seats because everything was so So sold that it was it was amazing Hold on, this is the inflection point you find yourself at which is You're not yet floor seat guy There should be a moment Tim Way's trajectory when It should not be a question that the US men's national team gets on the floor of a Nicks playoff game. That feels like no man.. I'm just one of those guys who I'll sit anywhere. I'll sit in the nose, please man. Once I'm supporting the Kicks, once I'm there in that energy, I'm cool U I had had a blast, I had a blast watching them and it was it's always an amazing experience of Dan at a garden. Yeah, I mean, look, the story that you have on the back of your trading card, it's been hard for me to not mention your dad up until this point because that's the obvious thing is that you are the son of George Wa, who is a historical figure. He is the only African still today to win the Balandor in ' ninety five, played for PSG, played for AC Milan, eighteen years as a nd the way Where Wh? Wh became the president of Liberia from twenty eighteen to twenty twenty four. but for you Everything I've learned about you from afar when it comes to the origin story of you in soccer, is that Yes, your dad is a formative figure, but also you make a point to mention your mom. I could talk about my mom all day. I think my mom is the backbone of our family She pushes me to be the best that I can be My father' set the bar super high and you know, he's always supporting me, but you know, it's my mom who's always like behind me and tell me to do this, do that. She was my first coach. So having both parents present in my life and and so supportive and they're actually here right now and I come to every game so You know, just having that is an amazing feeling and to have to a wonderful parents who Wh you t takeaking them so yeah What was your mom like as a coach? How would you describe her coaching style? She was a coach when I was young, so My mom was just like, and go to go, go to go, go to go nowadays more like constructive criticism, obviously because I'm older and And I can handle it. Fiate bad games should get on me, but You know, for the most part, she's just mom, so It's wonderful having someone who can, you know, be ra with you, but also you know give so much love and empathy towards you and momas that you need it the most. yeah. It sounds like when there is something that she thinks that Tim needs to fix or that Tim messed up on, she is not shy about telling you. She's definitely not shing. I have a old school Caribbean mama. so, you know, she's going she's going to tell you what what's on her mind You know, it's amazing having someone that could be so real with you and has As an athlete, as a professional, you want that. 'a then that just translates to how you interact with your coaches and and everyone else. And then obviously just Growing up in my household, it was all about respect. and and hard work. so You know, having having a mother like that is amazing Y dad in twenty twenty four Politically, he does something that's pretty astounding to read about again from afar. which is that he does something that had not been done. because Liberia coups that unfolded under the previous eight years, Pidents have extended term limits, elections have been in question And your dad, this, you know, historical footballer turn president He concedes defeat on state radio. amid this really contested election before the official result is declared A few moment ago I spoke with President Elect, Jose said You my brer So congratulate him on his victory Tonight As we acknowledge the result, let us also recognize that the true winners Of these elections are the people of Liberia your peaceful and orderly ascise of your constitutional right to vote You have once again demonstrated your commitment For the democratic principles that band us together initially. And we are living at this time right now when that is not what people expect leaders anywhere to do And yet he went out of his way to do that But when that was happening What did that feel like to you as the son of George Waya. Being there throughout my dad's election time and the election period when the elections were going on, it was inspirational. ' I think it's one thing to be an inspiration as an athlete or as know a popular figure, but to go back in Asia country that needed the love, that needed the support was amazing. And you know, I grew up in a very pan Africanist household. My uncle was a part of the NAACP. so I mean, just going back to like the Marcus Garveys of the world, the Penis Lamonbas to you know, The Thomas Ncar, when you think about African greatness having a father that embodies that It was amazing and It's inspiring and it it's wonderful. I think, you know, he He took Liberia at a time of need And it was so important to be present in that moment because You know, a lot of us You know, when you're when you're part of the diaspora and you'rere not, you're not physically born in the country. you can you can get a bit disconnected to your roots in your country. and I think, you know haaving that experience just made me you know loveo it even more. I'm Liberian to the core. I'm Jamaican to the core. so you know, being there for My people and helping the country in itself just elevate is always a goal of mine. llying ln b A lot of what I love about sports is that you end up learning about things that you didn't ask to learn about, What sports presents in front of you and you have a choice. Do I learn more about what the Pan African diaspora is like Do I want to know more about Liberia And this is a whole textbook, It's a whole course. but like for people who don't know, about Liberia, how do you explain what it is to someone who's not super well read about I always tell people, even though Liberia had a history of, you know, civil warar. It's a peaceful country, a wonderful country to visit For me when I go back it's It's like a comeback down to Eth moment. You know, when you're in Europe, you you have this lifestyle of You know, you're seeing all these fancy cars, you're seeing all these clothing stores you're seeing all these things, but You know, a real luxury is when when you get to come home and connect with the people that love you the most, connect with your blood And I think, you know, Liberia always gives me that and That goes for the whole of Africa. Whenever I'm in Ghana, whenever I'm in Liberia, whatever, you know, twenty ten, I went to South Africa and getting to see all the memorials and learnning more about apartheid and connect with that was was amazing. And I think as a young black man That's what you need. You need to know where you come from. You need to know the history of your people and you need to to reconnect with with the Motherlandlandner, I think Going back each year is always an amazing experience. So I would definitely recommend it to anyone . Yeah. I mean, you're talking about the first African Republic to get its independence. It's Africa's oldest continuously independent country. It's founded by free people of color from the United States. mean is It's a place that, of course, as you're putting it, is leaving a mark even if you weren't the son of one of the presidents of the country But it sort of like sets this question for me, which is when you leave the United States at age fourteen and you go to France and you play at PSGs Academy. There is this question of what is the life that you are dreaming of What was that adjustment like It was really easy for me, honestly. I think at a young age I knew what I wanted to do And I knew I had family behind me that supported me fully I think Getting over the hump of learning the language and making new friends was really the only thing. And you know, I was determined enough to learn the language in six months and connect with people. I'm a peopleop' person. You know, I love connecting and learning new traditions and also sharing mine I think you know being that I moveved to France I didn't feel like I was out of my comfort zone because you know, I saw Kids that looked exactly like me. I saw kids of the diaspora, whether they were from Cuvois or They were from Ghana or they were from Algeria or Morocco I had my African brothers with me as well as learning a new tradition that was French. So I had the French guys who can teach me new things, teach me about their culture as well, which was wonderful. and that's what you want. You want to learn about new cultures. You want to bring people together you want. spread love and joy And, you know, having that made it made it super easy to connect with everyone and kind of make that transition And like I said, coming from New York I'm used to connecting with The diaspora, I'm used to connecting with my Italian friends One of my best friends is is half Japanese, half Italian. So I'm just so used to connecting with different cultures and then obviously want to learn the language He got my passport, it was home Yeah, I mean, look, you're articulating this pride in the diaspora in this larger sort of history and you see how people are exported all around the world and how they are moved sometimes against their will all around the world, sometimes via immigration all around the world. You're describing a certain kinship that you are feeling with people who look like you, who do not have the same passport, perhaps, but have been Of course, exported all around this world and now this sport And for people who are watching at home, of course, you're identifying everybody via what country they're playing for you're suggesting that there is something deeper that you're also taking pride in when the World Cup comes around, which is seeing all of the Pan African demographics sort of changed the face of sports in all of these countries. Now the United States, obviously, really included in that. You know Not to be too deep, but I think when you lookget slavery. sllavery was such a U a hurtful thing to happen to a group of people. And I think as a young African man living in present day I think now it's our job to to reconnect, obviously with our roots, but to reconnect with each other and change the way we're viewed in sports I think Now representation is the most important thing And if I can represent my people, represent my ancestors and still do great stuff and inspiring the next generation. I think it's amazing. I think now when you look at all these different teams I'm like myself I'm of Librarian Jamaican descent. have for Larene Balagon who is Nigerian You have um, Surge. Who has a background, a Caribbean background as well? Teram, Yeahah. Yeah Um When you look at that, it's a beautiful thing knowing that, you know, We can We can wave the flag of our countries and still represent the U.S in such an important manner. I think that's the most beautiful thing with the US as well is we all come from different different places, different cultures, different religions. We're all fighting for one common goal The end of June and July can be a really rough period for sports fans with football still a few months away and basketball and hockey This year, we're pretty lucky Because not only is there a worldorld Cup, there is a World Cup in our backyard And so make sure to check out the Athletic Podcast Network to stay up to date on all things related to the World Cup You can wake up with the totally football show from LA, then dive deep into the biggest talking point of the day with the athletic FC podcast. And you can watch the TFO podcast fool around on their daily live streams in the afternoon All shows are free to watch or listen on your favorite podcast platform The thing that I've been reflecting on a lot lately about the United States, my family from the Philippines. I'm a first generation American What is it about America that sports can sort of cause us to reflect on. and I will get deep here for a second. So thank you for breaking the seal on the think piece here. But it is that America is an idea America as a country is not blood and soil. it is ideas And the foremost idea that I grew up with in the city is that a multicultural America is a stronger and better America, that we are all going to benefit from that melting pot. And it is something that I grew up with to the point where it became a cliche But recently, I've been realizing that's something that we really need to say to ourselves. one hundred percent agree. and I think that's the beauty of having the World Cup here. It's about the football, obviously, but it's not only about the football, it's about bringing joy to different groups of people, us coming together as one And I think that's what the world needs more of. And I think that's what we've been missing a lot of The impact that you can make as an American as a member of the US men's national team, when you look back at this decision and you've even asked about it over and over and over again, as you were alluding to, right? You could play for Liberia, you could play for France, you could play for Jamaica, where your mom's from But you chse to play for the United States and you've always said that this was not a hard decision. And the conversation we just had sort of, to me explains why it would be so enticing There is this potential That is special. unlike the other opportunities available to you. And I wonder if that also factored into how you calculated your decision Yeah, one hundred percent. I mean, when it comes down to my decision I was with the US. Federation since I was fifteen. They've believed in me from from a young age. And you know, this is where I grew up. These are my brothers. someome of the guys that are on the team now I've been playing with them since I was T nine years old, so You know, it always felt like the right decision for me and I'll never regret the decision peopleeople think that you know, you can't play for the country of your birth and still wave the flag of your, you know, other you know, your parents countries and in your background while doing so I think that's completely wrong. I think You know, I have even bigger platform now. to bring awareness and to bring love and to bring joy to Jamaica and Liberia I carry that flag and that pride of being from both those places And like I said, the US was always an easy choice to play for. And you know, I'm just making sure that U My other countries Liberian and Jamaica don't get lost while I'm While I'm waving the US. flag, you know, I wave all three flags with pride and joy. so And that's being a New Yorker, by the way. That's what that means. It's like the number of parades that happen in the city. They happen because everybody wants to acknowledge that you can be a New Yorker and an American and also exactly the representative that place your parents came from I was hoping you would be. And then, by the way, I didn't even talk about Flo Balligans his whole origin story, which is as crazy as anybody's How is it that That guy wound up your teammate. I mean, do you know the story well enough to just tell I actually know I never really asked him about it, but I'm sure his mom was pregnant at the time and I think she was maybe too close to you know, giving birth that she couldn't she couldn't be on a flight? Yes. ended up habbing him and New York Right. I mean, the idea that again, he Flow has this choice. I can do England, I can do Nigeria, I can do the U.S in terms of who I represent. He obviously chooses the US. and it's because When it was time for his mom to visit New York on vacation, she was already very pregnant. When she was flying home to London, the airline would not let her board because she was so pregnant All I want to find out, this is a shhoca Pubatory findinds out in which I ask questions out of my curiosity I wanna know which airline was it and which flight attendant was it so we can thank them This is how you because she ends up being forced to stay and Flow was born in Brooklyn. He becomes a New Yorker just like us and eventually the family months later goes back to London and he grows up there, but this is a country of immigrants in which the people who wind up inside of our borders, we welcome them and sometimes they make us better They make us, by the way, as that second goal indicated, they make us a lot better And that's the glory of what sports can teach us about what it means to be open to the world Tottally agree So the one thing that your dad was not able to do, as many soccer fans know, is play in a World Cup, which is kind of wild. You've now played in two Have you told your dad what it's like? Has he been curious what it's been like to actually compete in this thing What have you said to him? I think he just lives it through me. I think, you know, it was his dream and I think, you know, seeing your kid. get to live that dream is always a wonderful thing I think that's the beauty of having kids and A vineage I think he's having the best time of his life here.s He's in all the games. He went to the Iran Mew Zealand game yesterday. So hes he's all over the place. He enjoys when it's tournament time. So I'm happy that he gets to be that kid again and enjoy, you know, the beautiful game And how much do you guys get to watch the other games that are going on? Are you constantly doing that? Are you catching Spain, Cape Verde Rorjery Kuarea backed over was he justed h Are you seeing what's happening all across the field? or think I think that's the key to being a great professional is being able to watch the game and analyze it and also just be a kid again game I mean, when I was a kid watching the World Cup games, I still get that feeling when I'm watching, you know, all the other teams and play As sports fans, we spend a lot of time obsessing over stats and finances. 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Customers will pay twenty five dollars per month as long as they remain active on the boost Unlimited plans And thanks to BoostMobile for sponsoring this segment There is one more dream that I want to talk about with you because I've been imagining what's it sound like inside of your head And it brings me to the realization that you really do have a musicality not just to your game, but also to your side projects Yeah, so's it's more like alternative R and B I think as I've grown as a writer, And just as a musician in itself and as a creator, I think Music has been a part of my life. I think coming from Liberia. in Jamaica, that's As as a people, that's what we dririve on is great energy, good vibes and and great music So, you know, it's always been a part of my life and then You know, in twenty fifteen, when I moved to France, I had the opportunity to meeting my best friend who is a singer song wrriter producer. And we connected off her music immediately. think eventually We'll see where that goes, but yeah I love I love him I think it was pretty much every one of your former Juventus teammates voted you, the team's best singer last year Was that a close contest? no def'sly not def. But starting, I mean, was it violin? Was that the first instrument? I played violin in middle school. I was in band, so had the opportunity to It's to try that Obviously violin. if you're not keeping up with it, if you're not playing it, you lose it a bit. but still stay connected with music. And so I should say that one of the friends of the show, one of our friends, we are proud to say, is Method Man T again. Yeah, mister M. And so I was gonna say as a musicality Qion Which member of Wu Tang Clan do you most identify with I would say metaman And then Maybe old dirty bas or excuse me French as a young kid growing up in New York City. You know, you want to just, you want to be like Method Man. you want to be like the rzers of the world. You want to be like all these artists that we looked up to. So definitely method O Dirdty Bashard, you know he has that edge to him. I think being different is super important You want something that makes you special and I think that's what. U A he be had and I mean, his rhymes were where some of the cold is so yeah I love that what I'm finding out here today is that Wu Tang Klan If all goes as everyone is praying for. maybe pretty instrumental force in not just the Nick's Championship run, but what the U.S men's national team is setting out to do That is what I'm hearing from Timwaya Thanks. I really appreciate you taking the time. It's really refreshing to talk to somebody who's really engaged with the world around them. And so thank you for taking the time, and I appreciate it. And than you for having me. It's a pleasure. Im suuper excited to be here. Thank you for the comvo And hopefully we can me in person soon. Yeah, man. O tank forever Pab Latori finds out is produc by Walter Avaroma, Maxwell Carney, Ryan Cortez, Juan Galindo, Patrick Kim, Neilily Loman, Rob McCray, Matt Sullivan, Claire Taylor Chris Tumanello Studio Engineering by RG Systems, Sound design by Andrew Bersk, Digital strrategy by Bailey Carlin and Andrew Norththern, theme song as always H Joh Bravo See you next time