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You're already paying, increase your credit scores instantly for free. now paying rent boost your credit scores instantly Download the app and get started for free today. Results will vary. Not all payments are boosts eligible or considered by lenders. S experperian dot com for details. Okay, let's go Welcome to partart of my take presented by Draft Kings. The crown is yours. Today is Monday, june eighth And the New York Kicks are two games away. Oh You're gonna clap. You want to say it? What's about to clap. Do you want to say it? The New York Kicks Our W Champions Congrats to Nixon all their fans. Congrats to meames, conongrats Zack. way to go. to nothing going back to the Mecca to New York. It's going to be a movie Monday night. It's going to be insane. I actually do believe that. I u It's rare that there's a game that You're like hypeed for when you have no rooting interests and I am hype for The New York Kicks in the NBA finals are going to look like at MSG I think it's going to be Absolutely nuts. The crowd is going to be nuts. The president' going to be there, which by the way, that part does suck that no one can do. I think they they canceled the outdoor Watch parties that sucks. Yeah. They should let the have let let the boys watch. It does suck. But on the other hand, Mitchell Robinson is going to go nuclear with Trump courts side. That's like everything he's ever hoped for. It's going to be an absolute scene. So Friday night to recap Friday night we had another well the first game the Kicks ended up winning convincingly. Friday night was a instant classic fourth quarter because we had the nexts looking like they were going to cruise to a two hundred lead The spurs come all the way back and then in the last two minutes I don't know if we should say and we're going to talk to Brian Winhorse. that the moment was too big for the San Antonio sppurs because this is a storyline that they're the youngest team to be in the NBA finals and you have a core that is all under twenty five years old and and Wendby's first trip you know, first meaningful play first playoffs and he gets all the way to the finals The end of game sequence where Victorory Weinama tries to pass the ball to Steph Castle in transition and throws it off his back for a turnover for Brunson going to the free throw line hitting one and then Weemby who got a good look missing the final shot. It was tough. It was about as bad last minute as you can possibly have Yeah for Wimby Um it was I playing so he choked. That was a big time choke at the end. like You got to look before you throw that pass It was ill advised pass to make. and then out of frustration, he just he commits bad foul Um, I I think Wimbys to blame obviously for everything that happened at the end of this game I think we should be fair Mitch Johnson should get some blame for the way these two games have gone. Like can you imagine losing these two games back to back. Pop did talk to the team after the first two games. So maybe he help. But yes, I agree. I treated it in the moment. I thought Mitch Johnson not calling a time out there was crazy. They have one time out left. there's seven seconds left or whatever it was ten seconds left. It's a tie game I understand Tansition is kind of how the sppurs got back in the game. They were attacking the hoop. They were getting out fast. You have you have you have ten seconds left. Call time out Call up your best play Brunson' on the floor attack Brunson like The worst h the thing that happens is you go to overtime. instead I just I just feel like that's a moment where it's like you have you know you got to know your personalel. You got to know you got a young team, callall time out get your best play and you get a shot to potentially win without the risk of losing in regulation, which is what ended up happening. I was talking to our good friend Mark Titus about this, but I've noticed it more so from the thunder and a little bit from the sppurs now the two for one at the end of the game It's the right call Statistically, the nerds have crunched all the numbers. You got to get the two for one get two shots when you can But the shots that are being put up in the first half of the two for one They the can be kind of ridiculous. And when you when you put up a bad shot It also I want to see what the numbers are, but I would assume that the likelihood of a fast break or getting like, you know, a numbers overload off that miss off a bad miss and a long rebound are higher than if you get a normal shot that you run like a standard play that's not rushed. I would agree. And I think that sometimes if you put up If you if you try super, super hard and make sure to get that two for one up Um No matter what the cost is, that actually ends up hurting you a little bit. I think Wb' shot that he had the front half and two for one was terrible. was a norm shot. It was a rush shot. Yeah very rush shot. And wheny was bad in the first half again. like you you have to we have And this is all relative because I understand this his first time in the NBA finals. He's twenty two years old. He's a future fisist league if Scottty Barnes stops playing basketball. That's part of like Part of being the future proessess Leg is that you get the criticism when you are not dominant. Uh and this is your team in the first half. He was not canan win he looked he looks gas. He looked off. Can he win the big one Did you hear afterwards? he said that he he maybe celebrated a little too hard. you know, I don't think he was getting drunk, but like maybe didn't move on quickly enough from the Western confonference final. He also said that this is everything that I wished for, being down to nothing. Yeah. having the opportunity to come back from that. When we talk to win horse I want to I want to get his winorse. I don't know if you guys know but he is the Wemby Whisp. He's one who found him Um, But yeah, I can't tell if Pard of me I think Weemby is ultra confident And why wouldn't you be if you're seven five freak I also the quote saying this is everything that I wish for. So there's no reason to really overthink it. I mean, this is what I'm built for when talking about being down ero two in the finals It feels like he's almost like this is what I'm supposed to say if I'm going to be a Kobe MJ type of guy. Yeah I love being down. You know what I mean? Yeahhing to nothing most dangerous leadague in basketball. You know it would be great is that he didn't blow the first two games by not playing up to your standard Andbr debate. Would you rather be up to nothing or down to nothing in the NBA Finals? I would be rather be up to nothing. Not me seeee, I'm like Mama mentality. especially I want to be down and I want to be going on the road into Madison Square Garden That's that's the ideal spot to be in. I also back to M Mitch Johnson real quick. I don't agree with so The start of the sequence was actually The beginning of the the possession when the Kicks had the ball and they Foulled intentionally because they had to foul to get. I don't like that. I think if you're going to foul when you when like in that situation I just I don't really understand it because now you then have the the second situation happen where Jalen Brunson's in the bonus. Well, I think they they feailed way too quick. Right But it's just like Don't even Don't even fl there. let it play out. you actually it's actually good that you have a foul to give because it isn't automatically at the free throw line if you fall on the floor. Yeah, if you're going to foul though, you got to wait a little bit longer than that. And it's not just that one instance at the end and then you know not call them time out. I do think that the way that The Spurs have played with leads. I feel like you have to put some of that blame on their head coach. Well, I also think the lineups, I mean, we've talked about it. We've we've been talking about Dylan Harper and how awesome he has been and the Dylan Harper Uh The Dylan Harper Weemby lineup has been incredible in this series. the I can't remember let me try to find it. Oh yeah, here it is Um Oh no, this is this is just Weby step. but I'm pretty sure the Dylan Harper and Weemby on in on the floor together has been really, really good Steph Castle as much as I love him Like he was in foul trouble. He plays with an energy that might be he might be the guy who you want to bring off the bench. I don't know, you're down too o and you you lost the first two games at home. It might be time to switch some things up. You got to figure something else out Right because it does feel like the Kicks are just the better team in the Nicks. I mean, that one possession where they had the ball movement that was just Are is your computer playing something?' off. That was incredible. the ball movement on that one possession. like the Nicks are just and they're doing it with everyone. Jayen Bronsson has not been Like suuper dumped. I mean, outside the fourth quarter in game one. it's not been like the Jail and Brunson show. It's been the entire Nicks am Carl Anthony Towns has been sensational Michael Bridge has been awesome. Like everyone is doing it, memes Its it's been crazy to watch. That game was also rigged for the. Oh yeah. That's true. They were really try the refs was they actually rescinded Mitchell Robinson's flagrant the next day. And if they didn't if the Kicks had used their challenge and they didn't challenge the OG three like they wouldn't have had any free throws in the second. Yeah. Yeah But it was, but like think about it. you've If you're the spurs and you went into these NBA finals and I told you that in game one Jaen Brunson would have thirty points on thirty one shots and in game two, he'd have twenty points on twenty five shots. You would sign up for that every single day of the week. You'd be like, oh, we're probably winning this series. Yeah. But the difference is Kat, Michkaail Bridges, Josh Harp being everywhere. Landry Shammot just being the greatest shooter. ever right now. L it's the whole team whole team. Yeah. the whole next team has just been awesome. that They've been everyone has stepped up in big moments And Josh Hart's commitment to not really scoring any points at all, but but getting every single loose ball that's ever existed. Yeah I do they play a very entertaining brand of basketball. and the scary thing for the Spurs is you have to imagine that Jayalen Bronston is going to have One of these nights, he's going to go off. Yeah. and he hasn't done it yet and you're owing to looking at some subpar play from Jalen Bronson. That's a scary place to be for the Spurs Um Congrats though. Congrats meames, Congrat ack. Let's he from me and Zach. You guys are just dominant right now. What do you guys got. Maybe the best team in the history the play. We got to stop with a congrats. I mean, thirteen in a row is insane Yeah. This is thirty. You guys have not lost since April I know, but you're still still two more wins away. What did Chffter say the night of the NFL draft? That was last time that the Nicks. Yeah, that was right the Kicks lost the game right as the Jets were picking. Yeah and the Mets l up a grand slam. Yeah, that was a bad it is. I saw so much tweeted that the Celtics have lost three times more recently than the Kicks That true Yeah That's craz. Celseics got bounced in the first round Holy shit. Yeah.s it's an insane run you guys are on So can we congratulate you? We can't be doing the early selly thing? thing and so we look, there's What makes you scared of this Spersy I and I know. it is a long series like there could still be a chance that if The Spurs win this game three then Things get a little tighter truly think The Kicks are just a better basketball team all around than the spurs. That's just and the lines also are they like one and half point favorites It was two and a half when I lasted. There were there were six and a half point dogs in game two. There were five and a half point dogs in game one. I don't get it Better basketball team two and half point favorites. I don't know what say means. they're the better basketball team No Yes, anything could happen, but they're the better bas. It does look like men versse boys right now Right And it just everyone is chipping in. like you even I was impressed. I will say Darren Fox like answered. He was he was bad in game one And he was great in game two and like he answered that. He was very, very efficient. He was aggressive And and overall, like the spurs hit a lot more sh, you know, like they shot better and they had more contributions for they had contributions for more guys, but it still doesn't matter because the Nicks they defend. that's the thing is the Nicks defend to at such a high level that it's just it's so hard. I was shocked that they gave up that lead And then I was I was not shocked they won the game though because they're the better basketall team ninety nine out of a hundred times that shot goes in the history of the Kicks, the wy shot at the end like it goes in. And the Nicks are dead and then they They get reverse reeververse sweeped. and gentleen' sweep. Gentlemen's sweep, But like we're living in that timeline where It's the one shot missed. Do you want to talk some crazy timelines? I got some crazy stats for you. Yes. This is just these are these are perfect PMT stats that are not if you come to this show looking for like on off numbers and, you know, switches and no, we're not going to do that. What What are shaking your head for, Max You usually don't do that here. You should Uually it's so we. But what we do do is or I I would call it in we're more aura stats guys. whereere it's vibes and stupid numbers and stupid coincidences. So here's the here's the first one, memes. A. There was no NBA finals game on Saturday or Sunday this weekend. The only other years without a Sunday game in the NBA Fals. So there's no NBA Finals game at all in this series on Sunday The only other time that there was no NBA finals game on a Sunday in a series nineteen ninety nine Bpurs beat the next Also nineteen seventy The next beat the Lakers That is crazy. So that's a one one stat right there That's wild. Do you want another one one stat that we don't know? U Here's the other one once that. nineteen seventy six NBA finals. The Celtics take a two o lead and win in six games nineteen eighty six finals, The Celtics take a twoz lead and win in six games. nineteen ninety six finals, the Bulls take a two O lead and win in six games. So this is every tenen years The team takes two old lead and wins in six games two thousand six finals Mavericks blow a twoz lead in the NBA finals twenty sixteen NBA Finals, Warriors Bow a two hundred lead in the NBA Finals Now we're twenty twenty six That's every day every decade for the last fifty years every series started two three in a row two the way the team that went up to a one and six, the last two two teeam that went up to a But the good news is if you guys go up three o It's over. Yeah do what do you think about that stat' over Again, these are dumb stats. It's already over It's not over. What do you think about that stat I didn't like that one. That one's not nice That one's not a nice stat Were they at home to start or away? I don't know. No because the warriors were definitely at home, right? Yeah. Yeah. So So that helps. I don't like that stat. Yeah, that's not a nice stat. I think The Nicks having Michaail Bridges though, helps. He was on that sons's team that blew the they won two games at home Janis one four straight with the bucks and he just keeps reiterating that to the locker room So he's like just constantly panicked by it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. that was was the NB finals. Yeah the bucks lost their first two games at home. Yeah. Mcael's battling demons with that. Mike Brown got swet by the Burds first time. likeike they're all just It's nice having a team that's just all peeking after battling so many demons throughout the NBA and just being thrown away. Yeah. and now they're just like the perfect team I just want to watch this team forever Perfect team They are. They are playing like the perfect team. You You actually can't disagree with that the way that they've been going for the last like month and a half No, and it all started with the hawks. Yeah, Yeah, which thank you to the Hawks. Mames did call arect He called the correctly then incorrectly. He called it correctly that the Hwks were a terrible matchup for the next. They have proven so far through, I know we're only halfway through the NBA finals or two games in. But they've they've proven thus far to be the biggest test to the Kicks this post season. But also mees when when the Hawks were up to one was like blowing up, we're trading everyone for Janis. And now we're sitting here and from that comment, you have not lost the game Yeah, but that's just motivation. It's like you either win some games or you're living in Milwaukee. Yeah, that's true. You basically told the entire Nx organization, getet ready to learn Milwaukee Get ready to learn cheese curds Yeah, because at that point it just felt like the fans wanted it more and now it feels like they want it more haven't smiled in like two months. Yeah, Brunson does not smile. Yeah, you know how I know that the Kicks are probably going to win this whole thing is because we've already got people coming out of the woodwork just trying to like grasp at the final straws being like Yeah, you guys tampered to get Jllan Bronson, so they shouldn't even count. Yeah, un let's secondick r pick for it Next tampered. Yeah. Well, Leon Rose's son is Jalen Brownson's agent. That's where the Right there you go No, I'm actually taking your side on this. I'm like it it's loser talk. too even bring this up. if the punishment was a second round pick to bring it up to try to like take it away from you before you've already done it., That's how you know that you're winning This is like the last straw that they could possibly grasp at and it's 's meaningless I agree with you. We just need two more. the Spurs are still a really good basketball team. They're really young They've been playing. Yeah, but I mean, I think we've got enough enough of a sample size prove that wen we can't win big one Right? I think he's got a clutch gene problem. Yeah, that's what I think. throughrough two games, he can't win the big Let me ask you this big cat. That's a fact, memes. Did Michael Jordan ever throw a pass off of Scottty Pippin's back when they when they have a chance to win the game N never lost at NBA finals? No I Jordan never did it. ever lost the NBA finals. But memes, he doesn't have a clutch gene The moment is too big He did say his his eyes were like blurry after the game. Yeah The memory of it was blurry. How many people do you think got duped by the AI of him walking down the Max put his hand up. even didn't even had to finish it. There was an AI version of Wendby going in the tunnel maybe four steps and then he like collapsed and started crying. You got to I mean, come on, it's game two. There's no way that was real. Head on a swble Did you have inbead flashbacks? Is that what was? Yeah, I had a tweet that I was about to that I was about to writ. Oh no bowed because someone was like, I want my If you're star player doesn't react like this after a tough loss. I don't want him And then I was starting to get mad because people absolutely destroyed and beat for that And then I was like, you know what? let's not make this about and beed. And then I and then I deleted the tweet and then saw the replies that they were all that it was like this is AI. this is AI. And I was like, All right, good win. good win. Hey, how are you handling this knowing that the Kicks will soon be in play for the team of the twenties Yeah mean I mean, they're there And they're going to they're going to sweep this series and probably have a case to be one of the greatest teams of all time. It's tough. I did I putut an absolute nuke on the Ns because I just knew that spurs were gas and they didn't have what it takes and I was So I was kind of rooting for the Nicks in that game because I I bet a big bet on it and it was like the game was so rigged for the Nick so and somehow the Nick still won It's over. I mean, the the The scene in MSG on Monday is going to be insane. And even if they they can lose the next three games, I still think they win. They're not going they're not going lose any they could lose the next three games and still win Yeah What I think if the I'll say right now if the Kicks lose the next three games, they could be in a little bit of trouble I'm going to say that. I'm just going to be bllatantly on like that would be a d I'd be nervous if I were a Nicks fans being like, Hey, we just lost three in a row, including two at home. That feels like that would be a pretty bad momentum sway Yeah, I mean, N N fans are insufferable and they're all coming out of the woodwork and it's it's It's tough, but you have to just accept it is what it is. There's nothing There's no as much as I want to hate hate, hate. It's like they this team cannot be stop. What do you mean? they're all coming out of the woodwork? I feel like Kicks fans and now you could you could not like the Kicks fan base. I'm just happy we're not in New York. I putting that much. But in terms of like die hard fan bases that have been through shit. I think the Kicks are high up there Like didn Nicks they don have some crazy You don't think that Nicks fans keep their fanom close to the vest think so No Yeah, I mean, I guess, I mean, I guess this is what happens when teams make championship run is like, you know Not saying like anyone here, but there's just people I see on social media and stuff like when we were New York're all of sudden they' the bars and like that's what you're transant New York transplants Yeah it also hanks right. It's like, how come? Ohh you're such big Kicks fans. I don't remember you guys tweeting so much about the NBA finals when the Kicks weren't playing in them. Like of course they're going to be More locked in when they theirre team are the fucking finals. Also New York's gott to be electric, right Like Oh it looks disgusted. Oh my Godd. You can't hot trash on the stet. It has to belastry water hit you when you walk down the sidewalk? Yeah. There's got to be like a sense of just joy around New York City right now that is that is electric. Tick or tape parade if they win 't heroes. Yeah. and I looked it up the other day, but I didn't even realize that the Like we're going down like their parade route is Broadway. Yeah, it's right by our office. Yeah. Yeah. You be kind of you should go Did you Did you see the u you and meme should go together Oh you videotape me Yeah, I'm busy. Did you see uh The get in price now is what ten thousand dollars. Crazy sheh. I thought about buying a ticket Dider? Yeah That's that's just I would throw it if they lost. Yeah, I know, that's the thing.'s like I get it for Game four six but game three like That is election for ten thousand dollars a lot of fucking money It's crazy It's so much It's crazy. What do you think is the most hyped event at MSG Game three or the Taylor Swift Travis Kelsey wedding. Yeah. I was going to talk about this. Yeah, I mean, it's how tacky is that? Well, I do believe it It's real. Yeah. Oh, I don't. They're going to invite a thousand people to MSG I feel like this is I feel like they're they're pulling a fast one. Well, I think there's two scenarios going on. I could be very, very wrong because you know what I am hoping that I am U rightight because I don't I agree Tacky as hell if they actually do this. I think either one They sent out a bunch of dummy Uh invites being like, we know we have a rat somewhere in our group and let's wait to see it get reported to They actually have so much money. They did rent out MSG And All the people that are not really like the closest to them will be there and then there'll be a video screen being like, we're actually in a private like we're in an island somewhere far away having our real wedding. Sorry you couldn't make it, but we really didn't want the paparazzi to bloat up. So we told everyone that we're doing it in Madison Square Garden. They're doing theirs in the Hulu Theater Yeah just downstairs. Yeah. and everyone else can watch upstairs. That was my initial. I don't know ifact happened. It could be smoking out a rat because like it sounds like there was one source that talked to the press about this. If they do it And it's going to be tack. you should just go full on tack. You should sell tickets. Like you should sell that place out. haveave it be like thirty thousand people there to watch you get married. How I mean, they get in for that might be more than Th. How much do you think ticket prices would be if they like sold the entire stadium? their wedding ten grands. Probably more. Yeah. Swifties? You think there are more taes of Swift fans or New York Nick fans out there I was gonna to make a joke, but I don't want to get the Swifties upset at me I mean, it's probably Swifties. Someone someone could make the joke like what I knew you were going to make the joke. I'm not going to make the joke, but like what is you someomeone could say like Ws where they got to save up for their cats college education You could say that. I could, but I didn't. I did not say anything you didn I wouldn't say that that would be wrong of me to make that joke. I think you didn't make the joke. You'd also just be like, they don't have jobs. is posting online and a fandom account? Is that a job I'm not we're not making joes. Well We're not making of these jokes I think this is a dummy wedding there And they're getting everyone off the setent. It could be Youre looking right now Oh the, oh, the get prices come down a little No five grand. Fuck it fuck it, make a billion dollars off this wedding. If you them sell tickets, also put it on pay per view Yeah, Lve ofview. Yeah, why not Go for it. do the whole nine yards. They youll never have to work a day in your life. you could retire off of your wedding That's a pretty sweet game. Pre pretty sure they're good right now. I know, but you could like You could probably make a billion dollars double retire. You can make a billion dollarsars on your wedding. They should just make it like like just televise it in pay per view. That's really what it is Per view it. Well, they're also smart because they're only having one wedding, unlike Max. So if Max tried to do this, it would be like, Ohll just catch night three. Yeah If you want to get back with the Swifties, you can buy the courtside seat and then like do tour. That's going to be my who's back I I was going to throw out to the group Is that creepy if I bought the seat that Taylor Swift sat in It is auction is being auctioned off. I mean it' it's a little creepy But it also would be cool if we just had it in the office. It would be cool That would be cool. That would be that would be the least cool thing of all we've gotten a lot of cool things. You're telling me if there was a seat just sitting in the middle of the court and I was like, hey That's the seat Taylor Swift sat in to watch James Harden blow another playoff game. You wouldn't feel a little bit of goosebumps No, no, sir. Okay. I guess you're not a swwiftty like me No one made that joke No one made that joke U Okay So if there's one person out here that knows about putting cats through college. Yeah be me my good friend. me. thinkink about it Uh Memes, what are you say? Meemes will to sniff the chair. No, I said. I bet you somebody would sniff the chair. Yeah. wouldould you sniff the chair. I would not the chair not I would not crazy fam. I'd buy the chair I also wouldn't judge if anyone sniffed it, but I would buy it. That would actually means is going to sniff this chair. That would probably be we would have to hire extra security if that chair was here. Yeah Like that chair would need a full time guard.r would just have like Dana What is this off first?. If you smell the chair, you get shot. I think I think you just have Dana Beers sitting at first. like go ahead and sniff it dude. I would just far in that chair. Yeah I think I'm I'm guessing that this auction is going to get out of my price range. I think there's seven days left. I saw to two grand I think I'm going to be tapped out at I don't know. you can't I think two Grand might be my limit for this chair because it's going to it's going to attract a lot of freaks. That's the thing. Yeah. But it is a very funny thing that they're auctioning off this chair I don't really know who benefits from this auction. you find this auction? It was on we click on the ESPN article that was there. You just had it. Okay. Now click on the other thing other thing. It says right there. There's hyperlinks. You know what a hyperlink is dude? H hyperlink dud C Dude, haveave you ever hiped linked Trumpit sixnd I'm out I' out. I'm out. Yeah, I'm out. That's gonna to get up to like fifty, I think. I'm out That is officially I've accused myself and all Taylor Swift chairpat. All right, so Mimes and Zach, are you guys going to watch the game together on Monday night I'm currently doing the same thing every single game day, which is U being mad at everyone G Yeah, come in, get to a fight with Hang. Be too nervous to talk. too nervous to talk. Yeah. Anyone who says like anything to you, just immediately talk about the Kicks and nothing else Yes, that too. Possibly punch someone. Do you have the same pre game meal? Yeah. Same pre game meal, which is. I got cheese curds and some chicken onlyly at' the cheese curds, so now I have to eat cheese curds every single time. Okay. I wear my nick sweatshirt. I sit on the same spot on the couch. It was like a hundred degrees in mypartment. I refuseed to put on the AC. so I was just soaking. Why? I just I just couldn't I couldn't turn on That's part the' part of the vibe.'s part the vibe. you cant yourir. also you got to make sure that I alert security and be like, Hey, just keep an eye on them this week Zack, what's your pre game meal been like? Wait, do you forgive Zack yet You have to Yeah. No that was the most ever. Yeah, Al' forgiven Actually All right tomorrow tomorrow we're golfing tomorrow. you guys you guys have to ride together. sureure Yeah sure Z ex lose the next four games. You forgive them? No,. Okaykay. Zach, what does the pre game meal look like for you? I've just been ripping chicken thighs and mashed potatoes. Chicken thighs. Yeah. How are you cooking those? A little fat. I' just be them down the street. so I'm not cooking I'm just getting them sent to the house. Okay Little fatty, but still good. Okay. That's a pretty healthy meal. Watch from bed Heank, what's your pre game meail You're on This has been the worst NBA play. I haven't I I've not been doing like a superstitious. I've been eating different meals on different days. E ever since you said this is your favorite U two weeks. Well, no, that was the first round the play. I know, but it's like everything's gone bad since then. Yeah Yeah, it's been tough. It's been it's been tough. at least the hockey has been entertaining to watch. Yeah. So Hank G backack to your team of the twenties nightmare scenaro that you have. I would say night scenario that I have. Yeah, I would say that if the Knicks win this finals, I think that they're already ahead of the Celtics because they beat you in the playoffs last year And also if they I mean, if they end up if they don't lose again. Yeah if they if they don't lose again then then they probably they probably have an argument U Celtics, I think I have more conference finals and more finals appearances Yeah, they lost one head to head to the N, but I still think the Celtiics have it. But that's that's that's there's a lot, a lot of years left this decade. Well not a lot. Yeah. It's twenty twenty six. Yeah There's enough years where it's like the there's three years whatever the standings are after the season don't mean a lot But they're at least tied it up You can't claim your twenties were better than the Kicks if they win this. No, but the twenties aren't over We'll be it'll be neck and neck This is like also just like Juju for like all in New York City. This is the longest, you know. this is the last Yeah know I said on the show a long time. how it was crazy how we lived there for so long and they never won shit. And it's like now they're actually who is like, you know, obviously was, you know, Red Sox and Cubs and then I think the Nicks. I think it's like Other than the Nicks Bills Millions Lions, Bowns, Browns, but like even yeah, all of Minnesota All in Minnesota Okay. But like in terms of like great stories, there's not there's only a handful left of like, you know, long suffering fan bases finally Guardians, Guardians, Guardians Jet Yeah, so that's my fear is like what if this just knocks the lid off for New York and then they can't stop winning Would you take this if It knocks a lid off but for the wrong teams memames All all except one The Rangers Yeah. Yeah. What if everyone else Rangers and giants all going on who cares Um, okay Anything else for the game. I'm excited for game three There should have a game on Sunday. I don't know why there wasn't a game on Sunday. should have been a game figure it out. There should be the fact that there was no Stanley Cup And no NBA finals game today is just it's a disaster of the highest order. We need sports on weekends. Id agree Figure it out. I'd agree. 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Max bet and Boost vary. Boost only applies to winnings and expires at the end of the last NBA game each day. See terms at spportsbook dot draft Kings dot com slash promos Okay boys a Stley Cup final unbelievable. So game three We had the Mitch Marner hat trick in the second period alone. the Knights sccored six goals in the second period. twowo of them were dislowed correct calls. Y includcluding one where I I I had the theory that Anderson, the goie four the hurricanes got concussed because he got his head whipped around and then he gave up four goals like that. So' for nothing look like it was like, hey, Vegas is just this is going to be the easiest win ever. They're probably going to win the Stanley Cup final And then in a matter of thirty nine seconds in the third period with twelve, thirteen minutes left The Hurricane scored three goals, three goals in thirty nine seconds score fourth to tie it up to take it to overtime. G to double overtime And then the knights win the game in double overt timeime off a ricochet shot at like the Chipotle sign. I think it was it was kind of an own goal, but they credited to a guy from the from the Knights for being the last to touch it. But that was it was a soft goal was a weird goal weird way to end it The Kights needed that in this game. likeike you said, Mit more. I think that's the fastest hatch trick in terms of time elapsed on the clock from goal number one to goal number three in Staley Cup fininals history U, then it was a four goal comeback which I believe is the first four goal comeback in Stanley Cup fininal history And then, like you said the thirty nine seconds to score those three goals was the fastest scoring bst, I believe in Saleing Cup final history as well crazy game and then it goes over time and noobbody scores. Y. and then everyone's buttth holle super tight watching. It's just like crazy, crazy ten hockey U again, a weird way to end it, but if the knights don't get that luck They're fucked, I think. I there's I don't think that they can give up that comeback and then go on to win the cup final after. I would that would very hard. That would have made him crumble. And I think that if the team that w wins that game. I believe it's about eighty percent of the time goes on to win Stanley Cup. This this series has just been, it's been on crack I mean we had Like E every single game has been just a big lead blown comebacks two overtime games It's just been such fun fun hockey And Mitch Marner is the story right now. He is obviously the guy who's probably on pace to win the C Smythe the finals ended today. he is He's just changed the entire narrative. He needed to get change the scenery. He was this this is all to blame for for the good people at Toronto, but Mitch Marner in seventy games playoff games before this year. He had thirteen goals In nineteen playoff games this year He's got ten goals So A little bit of a difference. He's been on fire He's been incredible. I asked the guys I ask Biz and Witt and Yansz and I was like Not to troll, but like is this literally just a Like ame Toronto and they said it's a little more nuanced specifically that the Kights are just a way better team overall So he's benefiting from playing on a better team. But yes, part of it is There was a lot of pressure in Toronto and he's from Toronto and being away from that probably has loosened his game up H play he' the best player on the ice It was u It was close to being a disaster for the Golden Knights. Now everything is sunshine and rainbows because they were able to luck their way into a win. And it's crazy how quickly that can happen. likeike they would be so down on themselves if they didn't happen to to squeak that one out. Now I think they're probably going to I'm going to bet on them next game and I'm going to bet on game afterwards Love the nights. Love thef nights. Yeah. And we also had with Mindoza didid Mendoza get in on the crank off Was he a cranker I believe he was Yeah he was cranking that shit. He was cranking the fuck out of it. So I don't know number one pick Hman winner national champion. I feel like I feel like this is just we said it before the series started Whever wins a crankoff Prob going to win the series. they got to break out Mark Davis They have to let Mark crank Yeah, that Mark Davis it's over. If Mark Dav you want to win right now? Have't crrabed it. What are you gonna what are you going encnter with David Tempper Can't do it. can't do it C can't do it Oh, David Temppper would be funny because I just I don't know, just something about him Franken You can't overcome Mark Davis crank. No, we should get a crank. We should. Yeah, you're right. We should get a crank.use the pause in your sentence there you pause Listen, any minor leeague team, any team that is trying to sell upgrade their crank. Let me know. I would love to buy the crank Um Vegas, if you wentin it all, I'd buy that crank in a second upgrade to a newer crank I don't think you can sell the Stanley Cup crank It's just basically fishing. That's just what they're doing. like reeling in a big shark All of these are at These are cheap. Really? Yeah, cranks are cheap. Okay. We can get we can get probably the besty one on Amazon. Yeah get a game. You can get it you can get probably the best Frank ever made for about for less than three hundred bucks. Okay. But we do need a game used crank. I think that would be and it would be fun to do it like before NFL Sundays. Yeah, we'd have to get soldiers having soldier in here to who's cranking through the first one Yeah, that would be fun We should bring in guests to crank before. Yeah, we should It pretty much will just be our Ubers delivery driver. She's like, Hey man, you wantan to hit the crank? Wh? Who's gonna be the cleb crank Its gambling case this week U Okay, do you guys want to play the fun game I was talking about Yeah. sweeping the nation. Yeah. So I didn't realize this. We often talk about it with the NFL comp The NHO combine They might have weirder questions in the NFL combine. Did you guys see any of these go they weren't viral, but there were some questions that were being thrown off? did. So apparently the Canadians are like the king of these questions And they also do weird thought experiments where they they'll like hand you a puck and they'll say shoot this puck like throw this puck into the trash can And they'll basically base it on like how deep are you going to go? what's your confidence level at. But the question that was asked is prospect Kill B Hot hope Malhotra who's going to be a top pick. said the Canadians or someone asked one of his buddies if you are on a deserted island with no water for a day's walk and you had someone beside you with a water bottle Would you kill them to take the water day to get more water. Or would you kill that person? This to me sounds like when Dwightrot tried to establish a peak corner in the elevator after like ten seconds being there. Yeah you just walk You can just walk and not not murder somebody. Okaykay The other one to the Canadians, I think this is iterates. so they've done this a couple times. The other one they asked a couple years ago. If you're stranding a deserted island with someone and only a bottle of water in a baseball bat and you can't share the water. And the other person takes the water first, what do you do with the bat So you're essentially saying you're going to die If it's desert Island I don't Okaykay, here's what you do. You have to play the hand game on the bat. And then whoever wins gets the water. Okay. You go hand over hand Or you say, Hey, let's play a game of baseball, throw me that water bottle I'll try to hit it. and then you grab it Wh you share the water I don't know can't. The thing is, if it's a desert island, one bottle of water, you're both going to die Just one person's going to survive like Two days longer. Why can't you share the water? I don't like share the water max C't share the water. You gonna kill someone In what world would you not be able to share the water? And when you're getting interviewed by the Montreal Canadians for the NF shle combine, then you can't You want another one How do you describe the color blue Bliterally that's to go. These are so stupid. Sky. Sky ocean. That's good Apparently they also hand hand someone a brick And they say list all the things you can do with it in the next thirty seconds A brick? brick Okay. go, hank. Bicep curls. okay? Throw it through a window. Yep. throw it through a house window. how do these things. You asked what he could do. Yeah could you can do. Yeah know. I know.' follow a question. Why? Stay on a dunk Yep. kick it. You can throw it at a person Mm Build a house Nope, not with one brick. We could start to build a house house. We could start to build a lot of startart the process of building a house Um, what else could you do with a brick Bick of doorstop. My question would be doorstop. good one. Yep, a brick ofwight. Yeah paperwight. Put that brick in your face. Yeah too put it in the streets. Cut it. Step that on p powder. Yep. Y. Sack, w't you the brick? Well, yeah, you could make two bricks then you can also take that brak and then You try to you ask the guy next to you how he would sell this bke Oh, I got another one. You can take it to the NHL combine and ask prospects what they would do with it Yeah That would fuck them up mentally. They'd be like, damn. or God us. You know what? if I were sitting in that meeting, I'd be like, I could smash it over your face so you stop asking me all these dumb questions knock you out throw a mother fuckking f. Practice my slaphot With a brick? Yeah. okay, little wait little waight Yeah or your golf swing. Yeah. Yeah. here's another one hockey. These are mostly from the Canadians, I think U It's World War two And you're the captain of a boat. and you have to bomb an enemy boat teeammates are swimming in the ocean in between you and the enemy boat. Yeah What's a question What do Mmes keep saying kill Max for all of the hypothetical. Put the bomb in the air. Past three's like aill bomber or whatever one of those. Wait witait. We're talking about a torpo I don't know talk about a bomb or I don't know about I was reading off of what they said. I were talking about an aircraft carrier I shouldn' have asked this question because I should have known you guys were gonna get bombs. you want to get a lot of questionsals on the bombs. A lot of questions I would need to know first. All how about this one? Would you rather avoid the teammates Be accurate. Yeah. accur is one of my favorite things. Hit your spot. Yeah. Would you rather have a four year career in the NHL and win a cup? Yes or a ten year career in the NHL with DC Okay. ten year. The honest answer is tenure easily Yeah, but the answer I would give in this interview is four years. Apparently the team I think the answer is ten years. want to give. Apparently the answer was ten years because they wanted to see how much you loveved the game. Yeah. I would never want to I never want to stop playing. Th about me is I love winning. but you can't control your teammates, you can't control where you end up. Thats if you play for the Canadians, you're never going to win. So it sounds like Los are talk to about. We'd rather play for ten years. Oh, by the way, the brick was actually from the Islanders. It's right You like that now. I love it. All right last one of this very fun game of. I had no idea that this was we have to ask the boys when they come back on, but like I thought that the NFL was the king of weird combine questions. Everyone's always trying to get a stupid edge. Right. But here's the last one. The last one is If you were at a restaurant and you ordered a BLT with cheese and the sandwich came without any cheese on it, what would you do Absolutely nothing. I'm eating the beal Same. I look at it like absolutely nothing. Acidental diet Okay, they did me a favor by leaving the cheese off I had I had this moment was just a BLTC. Yeah. I had this moment this morning. I took my kids to the diner and they like their bacon Krispy and I said I asked the waitress to make it very crispy came back and it was borderline burnt And I just was like, kids, You're eating this bacon. You're not to complain. But I said the word very, so that was on me, I think Yeah, I think saying very changes everything. Yeah. We werere just talking about we're not going to say who, but one member of Parliam I take is very, very picky about some of their orders that they put in Shane, I would say like seventy five percent of the time, his order arrives and there's something off about it compared to what he ordered. And he I don't think he ever eats it. He just sits there and like looks at it sadly If you if you're going to be a picky eater, you have to learn to accept defeat. Because most of the time they're going to fuck something up. And you know what a real man does when their order is a little bit fucked up? They sit there and they take it in silence and they eat. Yeah. My order could be all the way fucked up and I sit down take it and eat like it it is what it is When you order something It's in God's hands. Yeah you're not in control of what of what you're actually getting. Yeah. you've thrown yourself into a very dangerous game If you want something exactly particular of how you want it, you make it yourself. Yep. Yeah. Yeah, I can't remember the last time I've ever Send something back. Never. I can tell you never Yeah. I don know't like there's not There's not a world Maybe I've like Cid you get its medium rare and not medium rare plus? Yeah, if you get a steak, but it has to be like So off. You know what I mean? And it can't be off Yeah overcooked. It has to be so undercooked that you can just say, hey, can you just put this back on there for like a minute. So we went to the outback, I believe it was in Baton Rouge when Pup punk was playing to show there. I had the rarest steak ever, sir to the point where it was like kind of gray on the outside and then just read the way through and I justat I took one bite and I was just like, I'm just going, I'm just going to take it. I'm just not going to eat my steak had I had one in West Virginia for Rough and rowdy that was like I cut into it. I was like, this is actually disgusting. ate the whole fucking thing And it was disgusting Listen that's manen don't complain That's don' compain about that. man does. We don't complain about that. Never. You complain about it to the people at your table and then thea the waiter comes over and he's like, Hey, how was everything? Oh delicious. Re inccredible stuff. What about? Oh yeah, when your plates's like half eaten and they're like, Oh, you didn't like that. I'm like, no, I loved it I'm just saving for later or you move stuff for That's what I do. If I hate something, if it's like comes out and it's not what I wanted, I'll move shit around strategically look like I ate it Yeah. What about returning clothes No, no, never, no, never no No that was just a mistake. Well, I assume you're talking about buying online That's just that's just part of the game. There's just a part of the game where you're like, hey, you know what? mayaybe I shouldn't buy these things that are, I don't know the fit of them. becausecause the Instagram swipe up ad was targeted towards me. I bought a pair of pants a couple of weeks ago that justust like Same size I always always get wasn't even close. I could barely even like get it around my wist. Yeah. Sometimes it Yeah is just are the same as. I bought a sweatshirt that was just a tummy shirt. It was Xl. It was fun Yeah. Z Zach and I always say fake two X. It's a fake two X. Yeah.'re doing a lot of crop tops now. way too many crop tops. I don't know whats happened but we got to stop that. Yeah. My mom my mom for my birthday like Th years ago. got me a shirt from LLBan. It arrived. It was, I believe a triple XL. I don't know how she clicked on that to order that for me. And I did send it back and I sent it back to get a large size Then I got a bill from LLB saying I owe them. I believe it was like a dollar forty cents just decide not I'm not going to pay that And so like a year later they were still hounding me down and being like, sir, we need the dollar forty for return postage. I finally called him up and I fought City Hall. I won. Hell yeah. They finally waived it. They said, all right, we can see we're not getting the dollar forty from you Good job. Tip of the caps are. well played. Hell yeah. Shane has has entered the chat Oh what did he say? He said they got they got me the completely wrong order. Oh, okay.. you It was a burger. It burger isgg was It was a soft pretzel and a burger I'd eat that. I that so That's actually you've been blessed, dude Yeah. You've been blessed with a burger and a. I got sent a box of flour the other day And you ate it like a man. I guess said you might used it. What's insane. What do you mean? I ordered they were here. ordered I won't sayve the place because I like post and they reach out and they were like,h,'ll give you credit. I still wasn't like, I'm not even gonna I'm not going to I don't even need a reorder. It was like comically. I ordered just like a lunch And they fucked up the orders and they sent me I guess this place sells flour in bulk They just sent me like a pound of flour That's crazy. Yeah Didn't complain. Should have made bread, yeah. Yeah should have done something Okay, An other stories before we do who's back We did is Brandon Iuor in commommander gar? Yeah, I keep going back and forth between it's good to have one kind of crazy wide receiver on your team and also like I think he just might be actually crazy. Yeah. So we'll see. There is a conspiracy theory out there that the Niners cancel their OTAs so that he wouldn't show up So they could continue to recoup money and not have to pay them Got it. It's kind of like the the episode of Seinfeield where Castanza keeps having to like break into the office because they're trying to get him to quit. Yeah I think that there's some people that are saying that's what he's doing, but he's yeah, he's taking pictures with like commander's hats on. He's very good friends with Jade and Daniels still. So I don't know I don't know. there's like every red flag possible going up right now Yeah, but he might still really be really good And what do he say? it's like I'm going to put my belt to their ass or theyre running from the belt They're running the forty nineers are running from the belt right now. Yeah so I don't know. I was very confused. Any more developments with the Bear Stadium Yeah We're doing Indiana as of right now but still maybe not. it's such a fucking mess. Yeah. it's it was so perfect on Friday, it came out that the bears booard of directors voted to go forward with the Indiana site. And then almost instantly after that There was people commenting being like But There's still a chance Arlington Heights because they could call a special meeting It's just so fucking stupid man. and it's going to be it will suck that they I think in twenty years will if they're in Indiana, will anyone be like, oh man, this is crazy. No, but it will suck in the moment. Like it's going to suck that they're they're doing this And then ye, Indiana will have two NFL teams. Yep. New York will have one NFL team Taxas will have two NFL teams, California L love, two NFL stadiums kind of crazy that Indiana would be in that short list that has to. And then When the commanders did this and they moved to Maryland They renameed the city for him. Yeah. Are they going to rename the city Ham? I don't think so. They should. That should be part of the demand is like Cre you're now entering the Barden. I will say that there's been some like slander towards Northwest Indiana residents, which I think is unfair because first of all, they didn't ask for this and like But I mean, they're They live like thirty minutes from Chicago. They rooting for the bears. And I wouldd like say there's some been some very nice people like For instance, Zach, you should actually go maybe do a research project. There's a nice strip cl called the landing strip that has already welcomed bears fans Oh, that's nice. Yeah. How's big of them? Yeah, It's unity. Yeah Cck out Dream Girls nearby, too I could put those in the shortlist. And I think knockouts The thing is a little aggressive. The thing is is it also was crazy because we had the World Cup friendly at Soldier Field on Saturday and Soldier Field looked incredible. And again, I think there's the blame pie for this is so vast because it all starts I've seen a lot of people been like, why do the bears even need to move a stadium? Well one, they don't own it. They want to own a stadum and two It's the NFL that's pressuring them. The NFL wants the bears to have their own stadium so that all the prices go up for everyone's franchise. That's where the pressure starting from. Kevin Warren was brought in to do this job. cororrect. Like this is what Kevin Warren wants to maximize the value of the bears for the bears ownership group. That is his only job. it serves him job is not to make sure you have fun at games. Correct. His job is not to make sure that free agents will want to sign with the bears in the hisis job is to do one thing. that's to get the most money in the pockets of his bosses and if he does if he gets a sweetheart package from Indiana, then he's going to take that because at the end of the day, it's about the plus minus that he can bring to the ownership group based on the new stadium and the retail around it. compared to whatever Arlington Heights is offering. And if it's not close, they're going to go to Indiana. Right? That' I still I still think They're going to end up with their own. It still doesn't make sense me they bought of fucking parcel land that is enormous for two hundred million dollars Mhm That's what I was saying also on Friday. They have to if if the bears go to Indiana, they have to at least rebuild they should make them rebuild the horse racing track Arlington Park, which was great because that's bullshit that we lost that and then Nothing is being used at that land. What would happen at Soldier Field when the bears leave? I don't know I don't know. The fire getting a new stadium. I think the the White sox are getting a new stadium. I don't know Probably nothing Like it would probably just sit there for concerts and stuff It is weird that you're going to Indiana. I know It's fucking stupid. The whole thing is stupid. Just stay Part of me thinks that they might just They might just this is just going to be like they're going to put their hands up and be like, you know what? We'll try again and when our lease is up at Soldier Field in like I think it's six years, seven years. They might we'll just run this out. I do I love the idea though of Indianna just going all in on sports We're going to be the sports state. An any team that wants to build We will have you shouldould go after the Bengals.o after the Bengles. Yeahah. goo after the Bengles and that'll be like the Eastern Indiana Bengles You could go after let's see the chiefs I don't know is the ink dried on the Chiefs are moving st. Yeah. whyy not come at the last minute Indiana? Yeah. The Titans mayaybe get the Grizzlies to build their new stadium. They should you're right. They should that just Southern Indiana. You're right. They should rename They should wait until the bears start building and then we should just Illinois should just annex Indiana. Do they have you know what? I was actually thinking about this the other day In terms of the upper Peninsula of Michigan Does Wisconsin And Michigan like does does the state of Michigan have duty National Guard members on that border stop becausecause what's to stop Wisconsin from just taking it Like they're just sending troops in overnight. likeike they They should think about doing that. Yeah. if Detroit if Michigan is not going to defend the upper peninsula. Yeah, go take it. go take it. go take it Right Hank. Listen I'm always in favor of good little land grab. Yeah forth, just take Haymond. Yeah, real quick Um Okay, o did anything happen in golf Mega Ct back JT. Pawson. He's a Megaorp? Yeah. Wh's back there? Buddy I love that Love that. Yeah goodood for him. Yeah. I Eelly Cordo US Open Chant. Okay. Sh out Nelly I should also mention there's tragic passing of Stacy King today. There's so don't know he's the color commentary guy for the Blls. He's been he's been doing it for twenty ish years, I think twenty years. He's one of those guys every city has this. where you have someone on the hometown broadcast where they are They make you want to watch the game even if the product is bad. And that was Stacy King. He was the guy who was he knew ball, but he also made it entertaining, you know, the too big too strong, too fast, too good Derek Rose, the heart hustle of muscle. Joe Kim Noah, even recently the little boozy Vertt. for Madas like he had the nicknames He had, uh, he It's it's like like the Dicky Vs and the Chris Berman and how we talk about these guys They make sports more fun and they welcome people in and that was Stacy King. He also was just a great guy. He would He would stay at the games and stand there for like forty five minutes to an hour to take pictures with fans after every single game. like literally every game. He'd be like if you want to take a picture with me. come down courtside after the game. I'll be here And I'll make sure I take care of the fans Yeah, it's weird whenever like a celebrity passes away, you You don't really feel anything, but this one was like a sucker punch was like he was tweeting yesterday about the NBA finals. I don't know what happened, but I feel awful for his family. I feel awful for everyone who worked with him And it will be very weird to have Bows broadcast without Stacy King involved because he was that type of guy. And so yeah, really really sad Um Okaykay, should we do who's back of the week Okay, who's backack of the week is brought to you by twwisted T Summers here in Twist T is coming in clutch to turn our day drinking up a notch. The new summer partarty pack has a brand new twisted lemonade madeade with real lemons and five percent alcohol. 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That rocks. good Monaco Monico Monico's go viral. Monico's set. Monica go's back. Monico's going I run I was in Monaco. Yep. The worst race they have. by far But the city itself is going viral. People are talking about how rich it is and you know basasically like a Florida, Nashville on steroids for rich people. Like athletes want to go to Florida or Nashville Got because count It's like an entire country. Toronaco just has no taxes. L I might be a come probably need to, you know work a little bit longer, but I'll have an NFL game there soon enough. I would Monaco sounds awesome. Monaco is so small. How small? It's pretty small. It's like the size of a small city. Tiny The whole Monaco is just one tiny little city. And they so it's basically just like the it's the rich people just figure out a place to just to hunt poor people. Yeah, They show up and it's like the most dangerous game. Yeah No it's one of those places that you go and the size of the yachts that are parked in the harbor. you think that they're huge. And then you see that actually some of those yachts are just like The small yacht then goes out and travels to the bigger yacht It's like the emotional support yacht that a billionaire has. and then that's the one that you bring ashore so that you can then drive your car off that yacht Yeah, everyone was in Monaca, a lot of parties, a lot of events. I don't think anyone I mean, we got into F one a little bit on this on this podcast, But Monaco is a bad race. B Whever whoever the raceers are like not interesting to watch Like no one that's in Monaco watch the race. No, it's a party. Yeah. Yeah. In Pad Sports toown Micacco's definitely bad sports town. Yeah one hundred percent Great party town though. But Hank, you what about growing the game F one. Yeah I mean, I've one that's the that's their mecca I like growing the game when they do more US events. Yeah. Okaykay like F one doing U S. events is F one fans versions of NFL going to Europe.ike they're like, this is bullshit. Right. But you like it because it's growowning the game in the States. A. And it grew the game so hard They worked on you that you're lifelong fan No. no. So yeah proving that what we've been complaining about werere actually right. Did you name two drivers Buce Hamilton Uh George You're about to say Sain. Pierre but it's not Nope, noope, nope. A The twwin Thomas' Oh Max wasp. Yeah, there we there you go. Charles LClay. Yeah Yeah That was the Albin minute. Yeah, Alex Albin. What the fuck is George George Russe.. Jordy boy. What we call Yeah, I The Monaco race makes no sense. There's no overtaking. They just whoever gets the fastest qualifying time, you've won the race as long as you don't crash I did like the Ny five hundred though. the Ny five hundred rock. Yeah. Okay, good, who's back.s who's back My who's back the week is soccer Yeah World Cup this week. Yeah, I was going to do that but then I wrote it down I can't even pretend to care. Yeah. that's okay. You don't have to pretend to care's got it. But you you might you might come down with the World Cup fever. The first half was awesome against Germany. It was one of those goals where it's like you watch that goal. And you're like, oh fuck yeah It got me hard. I got an erection. when he hit that volley. It was the coolest go mayaybe the best goal since twenty fourteen in the World Cup Yeah wait but this isn't World Cup. No,'s not it is a great the best US. a friends team goal. Yeah Also the lot of pitch talk Aot lot of pitch talk. All right. Well that was going to be mypect is related to Harry Can's complainer. Yeah. All Europe everyone in Europe is complaining. They don't like the heat. they don't like like shut the fuck up. Its mandatory hydroen Lock' here. Listen, I get England, Scotland, you guys got sent down to Florida. I understand that that's probably not a good combination for your fair skin. Dal with it. Yeah, deal with it. Okaykay? Florida's not that bad You just this time of year, Florida is's not great. No, definitely not. But guess but I also don't care. They they complain this is this happens in Europe every single year because they don't have air conditioning. There's a day where it's like eighty degrees and they're like every old person died. can't handle it It was the opening ceremony. Thursday I believe it's Thursday is the first game. and then US plays on Friday. Friday it gets pareday and We got a secret little US men's national team group chat Barcel sports for the people No. why not? I for for the people who care about the team They're only involved. I want the U.S to do well. This would be awesome if the US. did well. And I want us to win. They they they let me know about some news that happened over the weekend in Paraguay so in their're friendly Their best player I hate I hate that this happened, but he got injured. Oh. So he's probably not going to play against the United States And it sucks because you want to beat teamsmen at the best. Listen and this guy's hurt and I'm just I'm so mad about it. I wish he was playing. I want to win this thing bad. Yeah because if you let us win soccer It's over't tell over for the world Don't let us win this fucking tournament or any World Cup for that matter. Can't tell us shit if we win We're not you the cockiest motherfuckers ever. We won't win, but we should I'm excited now. I've seen enough in that first half against Germany, we look and Germany's like, you know, top five team in the world. I'm definitely excited. I mean the World Cup rocks. L We lost. Yeah, we lost. Yeah weost But in the half is win a friendly Hank. is a friendly is a sendo match. And the goal. It's really the goal. The goal was awesome. The goal is a Jedi Jedi. But if you can't get excited for the World Cup, you got to dump in your pants Yeah call me Dumpy McPe. Okay I't you gott to dump in your pant. like I get upset about US soccer not being told every year that this is the year. US soccer aside, the World Cup is an awesome, awesome event. I'm going to watch as much World Cup as I possibly can. We're not we're not I'm not telling you that the US is going to win the World Cup because we're not. but we should compete in our group to win. We should get out and then we should win if we win to All here's all I want I want there to be two mornings where I wake up feeling nervous and excited that It's all on the line for US soccer. So two elimination games. That's all I want if I wake up in those mornings and the only thing I'm worried about is what's going to happen in the US soccer game that day I will consider that a win for this World Cup. We should play in two elimination games. My other plus one hundred forty to win group D. should We shouldroup group D Socer Ruse from Australia. The My other part of the World Cup weekend because you get all these like teams coming come stateside and all this, you know, it's we're we're going get ramped up. What do you guys think that Messy's gonna to do with the signed Marcel Reed jersey he got? I he's probably pumped for that You kidd me? It's got to be the largest discrepancy in terms of talent, notoriety accomplishments sign jersey to another guy. Yeah. I like I no offense from Marcel Reid. he has he did have some electric games last year You're talking about the goat in one sport and Marcel Rit. Yeah. so getting to see the different teams staying in the United States and the places that they're at And just imagining the scenarios that like the Argentinian national team is finding themselves in in the Kansas City area Yeah It's very funny to me or like Brazil is just staying out in New Jersey If you're texting A M, I think you have to give Messy the dog. You have to give him revelry. That would be a comparable thing. L like here's a dog Not here's a jersey that would be nice. Yeah Very weird, but yeah, the Europeans complaining get the fuck out of here. Yeah, Harry Kaine's upset because he says too hot in fllora or no, he said he the pitch The pitch wasn't in great condition. Wasn't that not even a World Cup site? It was him and a friendly site. Yeah and New Zealand. They got together afterwards and they were like Yeah we want to stand as one and complain about the pitch together and just just whine. J shut up, dude. Yeah, shut up. It's not even a fucking It's not even a site where you're gonna have to play a real game. Yeah, Harry can L friendly. How much of the pitch do you need to see Harry? you only stay inside the six yard line The pitch talk is justope. That's all they're doing. Oh we're not to your team. That's all it is. They're just scared. Yeah, We're just soft they' grow men and we're talking about heat. What are we doing? Yeah All right my other who' back was Caitln Clark because now people are saying she's washed There's been so much Saitlin C Clark discourse this year. So much It's great. I can't even keep up with it anymore Like is she a problem? Is she coach killer? They're saying that her new coach is not playing to her strengths. And uh I think she's been in a shooting slump, but that happens But yeah, it it's nuts. alsoso peopleeople being like, oh, you know, they're not talking about it the same way. I mean, there the NBA finals are still going on. I would imagine and we have the World Cup like WNBA does shine when other sports aren't happening. Where is the fever? Are they in the playoffs? The fever are Oh, I didn't know wait. are they the eighth seed right now? If the player started today. The Portland fire Is our team Name five WMBA teams. Okay, Pland Fire, Las Vegas Aes, Los Angeles Spars R mystics U the linknx the sun, the Chicago sky I just did something So just just so everyone knows So when Hank said name five teams Max covered up our computer screen back here. so that we couldn't see. Yeah. Stupid stupid P the fire I didn't know existed, but good for them. Was that new This's got to be new, right Dallas wings, Lenard Dream, we go on and on New York Liberty, the Golden Save Valkyries. Toronto Tempo is that a new one They sound new. They look new. So Dallas Wings, that's the discourse. I told you that Piy Bcketets would be better than Caitlyn Clark when she got drafted. h I think There's a lot of stuff that Caln Clark has had to deal with that I think some of it's outside of her control but now Like you're starting to see the edits of Citlin Clark,ike yelling at coaches. It's ye Yeah, it's me becoming a problem time. It's getting me getting out there. Yep. She's getting the other side of the internet right now. It's getting not ready. It's getting mean. Yeah, so good for well actually no, not good for anyone. I don't even know. Yeah, no I don't think it's healthy for anybody to think about this. No. Oh. alsoso who's back Golden Tempo w the Belmont. Yep. really sucks really sucks that we didn't get a chance at a triple Good horse Mike Francesca Francesa approves. Should we hosse? Yeah, shouldhould we be blaming the horse though for not competing for the tririple crown. Yeahes soft Like load management Yeah. He's come to horse racing now it's sad. Adam Silver needs to get involved You got to run at least you got to run at least seventy five percent of the three horse triple crown. Yeah to be eligible for horse of the year. Yeah. Now how did how did this horse do in terms of expected horse links versus actual horse links? Very, very nicely Okay, so it did actually win two of Uh, Okay Zach finishes off. Then we'll get to Brian Winhorse. My who's back the week this week, Gentleal is going to be Xbox because we had the twenty twenty six Xbox showhowcase today. Anybody seen any clips? No pretty exciting stuff. We we got look, we got new Spyro. We got new gears of war. We got new obbviously they call doing modern Warfare for and then also maybe we get a new halo. like the what a launch event today. L lot of games on the horizon, super excited to play them Playing by yourself, playing with your friends, callall a friend. Get them in your party. It's that time boys. Are they areren't they done making Are they done making PS five? No No, there's a lot of shortages right now because all these data farms are takaking all the Ram Okay. Now what about the Dadison is a ruining fun? What about the new callall of Duty? Where is that located? Like where are the maps? A lot of it's going be in Korea. Oh, okay. Now what are people saying about that? Are they excited Yeah, I see a lot good talking points online. It's a lot more colorful, not as gray. are pretty pumped. We're also getting they're doing a twenty fifth anniversary launch console. We're getting back to the translucent plastics. Do you guys remember any of that from the early consoles L like the different colors you could see through. see the hardware on the inside super exciting. sixty four. Apple computers used have that too. Yeah. they're going So they're bring it they're bring it Okay, which is like it's eye porn. They should think about doing call of duty, but you're on the border of the Michigan Upper Peninsula and you're trying to take it over as Wiscin. I love that I would play that. I love that Call a drone strike on Macko Island. Dad fuckking around. I love that Jones strikes terry effective battle use, I guess. Yeah Okay Good who's back boys. Let's get to Brian Winhorse We'll get to Brian Wyinhorse in a second he's brought to you by our great friends over at Better Help. For some, summer is their favorite season picks up, kids are out of school, adventure is the focus But for others, juggling it all can be tough can lead to overwhelm and counting down the minutes until the kids are back in school and many worriry that are wasting the days of the sunshine. With over thirty thousand therapists, Better Help is the world's largest online therapy platform having served over six million people globally. You have to take care of yourself. 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Okay. Wow, God You were just butter me up. I was right, goohead. All right. go ahead You're the one who found Vitor Wimbinyama Yeah Okay. he had literally no one had heard of him. I do love when when when you' when your co hosts on Hoop Collective push your balls about that. But you know Weemby Very well you ear least you covered him. Um Are the spur screwed Is Wby is Wemby screwed? because this has been a bad first two games in the NBA Finals for him Yeah I mean, his stats are okay and he, you know, he, u You know, he had a pretty good second half in in game two and You know, most of was he started making jumpers. but he doesn't have the same energy level I don't think as he had in the conference finals. And look, here's what I'm going to say. U I'm going I'm going I'm just going to before you accuse me of of hedging, I'm going to announce that I'm hedging. Okay. Okay. does that I don't know if that does anything for you, but I'm going to announce this as a hedge The Nicks look very I was with the Nicks at their practice today in their media session. I watched some of their practice They look very focused. There is no, you definitely can tell, I don't know if it's Brunson who set the tone or if it's the all the Villanova guys, but you can tell who's ever in their face about, you know, jobs not done, et cetera. It's getting through because I don't pick up a hint of Drop off at all I'm seeing the I'm seeing a very, very focused team. Okaykay Now here's the other side of the fence I don't think this series is over. And I'm seeing a lot of my colleagues and And and you know, saying that this series isn't going back to San Antonio. We would never say something like that show. And I just don't think it's over. Like and you know, if the Kicks play another great game on Monday night and they go three , obviously, no one's coming back from that Um, but I think this The spurs are still alive It is a Two games, both games. the Spurs had the lead with less than two minutes to go and they lost them. and You know I have I have seen playoff series in this situation where Tam goes back home and The home team's like, you know, we've broken you and we're going to win by thirty now. But I have seen the opposite. and so All I will say is I see no signs of the NXs being overconfident, but I am not ready to declare that this is that this is put to bed yet. So that's that's that's my viewpoint. Sorry if it's not more hot takey How much the of the blame would you assign to Mitch Johnson for the first two losses Yeah, um, He he's touching buttons that aren't really working. and He's he's also playing a key player who's playing through an injury. Dereren Fox playing through an injury and Um He's your franchise point card. He's making a max contract. And, you know becauseuse I know there's a lot of like well, you know you got to play Dyan Harper more They used a three guard rotation throughout the year. They won sixty two games and got to the finals. So it's very hard to tell a young coach Sit your point guard down, sit him down. And then he played great in game too. He's he's he's doing some rotations and touching some buttons that aren't that aren't really working. Whereas Mike Brown, everybody he puts on the court was like playing awesome. L Gandry Shammitz having the B best two weeks of his career right now This guy' a minimum player. Yeah He's been incredible. Do was there any So after game two and the situation where Weemby throws it off Steph Castle's back. I said in the moment and we just taped some of our show, but That was a moment to me that Mitch Johnson should have called the time about before that even happened. And I know like you want a transition bucket. you can maybe get one easy But it's like, hey, the worst that happens you go to overtime. you call time out gear, best play You hunt your best matchup your young team get everyone settled like, hey, guys, this is a moment. We got to just, you know, find her but But instead you see what happens and it's, you know, there's a miscommunication and then a quick foul of Jalen Brunson that that was also the unfortunate part that Weby just immediately fouled him. in a's t high game It just kind of all fell apart there I was in shock that when that play went down. I had a hard time processing it in real time that not only did they turn it over, But they turned it over with a, you know, just bone headed play and then Victor immediately fouled. I mean Um so The problem is that I think Mitch kind of liked the lineup that he had on the court Yeah. And, you know Cat, you're right. Of course, you're right. you know, there' a there's a strong case to be made with a young team like that in a situation where they've been shaky You call time out, you get your personnel in, you set up your play. You're absolutely correct But I don't think it's like a catastrophic decision. Right. Right. You know, it looks bad obviously. but You know, I will listen to philosophies of coaches who talk about being able to start on on a break and you know, the sppurs might even have Dad. I know the spurs really like it. The offense that they can run when Wembinyama is trailing They I mean, it's one of the things they they want their guys to go out and run after Wimben Yama rebound and they go and they have like offensive triggers that they can go into and then like, They can downshift and toss to Wen Benyama when he's trailing. And there's a whole bunch of highlights that you've seen this year. where whenen Benyama hit a trail three or Um drive, just go coast to coast you know, give and go it and go coast to coast and go down and slam In fact, the shot in game one of the West fininals when he hit that thirty footer. Yeah. That was a similar type play where they ran um off of a miss Wemin Yama is trailing the play and he hits he walks into the three Yeah, it's a good point. It's a good point that you're right. likeike there's that that is an offense and that's kind of how they got back in the game to, you know, running transition and not because the Ns are really good defensively. I think that's the part of the series that is kind of getting underrated is that they're just They're able to defend everything the spurs kind of thrown out him and Kat has been just phenomenal in that respect. So looking at the game So Cat was was dominating, right? was dominating again. There was actually a pretty interesting moment in the in the press conference today, Kat was up there and So the NBA every year they have they bring in, you know, three or four rookies guys who are at the end of their rooie season. actually in in San Antonio it was draft picks. Let's see there were Caleb Wilson was there and Kingston Flemings, but oh Derek Queen was there But they brought in Jeremiah Fears today from the Pelicans and they do this thing where they have them ask questions in the press conference And sometimes it's, you know, kind of pookey and you know, whatever. But over the years, sometimes there's the players who are on the podium will get to give a good answer You know And that happened today. Fears asked Carl Towns kind of a basic question, which was like U You know, how did you become the best shooting big man, you know, in the NBA And Carl Towns gave kind of like a Beat your chest, answer He was like, you know, and I'm I'm summarizing it. please don't take this exact word for word But it was something like u U you know, a lot of people when I was younger told me that I shouldn't play this way. I shouldn't shoot threes. And none of those people are around now. and some of them are going to be around and think that they're congratulating me, but they weren't really a part of this It was kind of like, you know, wow, like, you know takeake that critics right. You know only only he knows who was talking about, you know, but I think he was thinking about a couple of people Um, and I was just like, wow, like Carl, like, you know, he's He's screaming, you know whatever. I can't remember what a yell but is going off the court. They can't F and guard me or whatever he said. Um And I was like, Wow, Carl Towns is like, you know As as LeBron used to say when a player was on a hot streak on the court, LeBron White would yell from the bench him He feel hisself. And you know, Carl Towns was feeling himself Um, But I'm gonna tell you that that game got sideways, that game too got sideways when Town's got two fls called on him in like thirty seconds Yeah both by the same official and and one of the calls was shaky. Maybe the Nicks fans would argue both the calls were shaky. Towns goes out of the game in that spot And he was never quite the same when, you know, he ruined his rhythm. And that's when Banyama started making shots. Now he was you could argue He was making jumpers. and that like it wouldn't have matter whether toowns was out there or not, you just started getting hot from the outside. But like you can go back and look When Towns goes out of the game with those two fouls And the in the late third early fourth, something like that The whole game changed. And so Towns is playing amazing, but I'm going to tell you what really made a difference, I feel was the fact and this sounds like such you know, bottom you know level baseline analysis to just say this The The sppurs couldn't get me freaking rebounds Yeah And and I think three different times in the second half of game two I think three different times the Kicks got an offensive rebound hit a three Yeah. I mean, that is just Backbreaking And in a one point game And that's why like today, like the Sur players after game one, the spur players were saying, we're not worried. we're going to play our game. We just have to play normal and we're going to be fine Today they were saying We're playing better and we're not getting anything out of it. And I know because they're getting stops and they're giving up three pointers And I just think of like, Pat Reiley, you know, the older I get, the more I see, the more I appreciate what David Stern and Pat Riley and Phil Jackson would say. Pat Riley has this statement.'s it's a Again, it's elementary evaluation of basketball. No rebounds, no rings Mhm If the spur just gets some rebounds, they win that game. Yeah Yeah. And all of those things are contributing here U I heard a rumor, Wendy. mayaybe you can confirm or deny you are the Wimby Whisereper Um that Victor W Min Yam is working on a sky hook And he hasn't unveiled it yet. Is that true I haven't seen that Why would he need it It'd be unblockable Well he does need some more post moves. It does feel like this is a part of and this is not a knock on him because again, he's in the MBA finals He's twenty two years old. You could see that there' part of as much as we want him to be a finished product, there is parts of his game where it's like once this gets better, then you're talking about a different different level. U PFT you could be right. I haven't seen it Okay. Thatn't be amazing secret. He's not letting anybody see it. R. It's like the Manhatppi project Right, likeike you think like in the movie about Wimbinyama's career, like, you know, in ten years that like, He's with the monks Yeah And like he's had like a hard day with the monks and he's like, you know, he goes out back of the the You know, the monastery, I don't know what you call it in China. any scenes like this you know, this monk or this like, you know This old Chinese guy shooting skky hooks. Can't you just see the framing? Oh, I know. I'm going to write it differently. I'm going to have it be that you went when you first met him He was, you know, you were just let's just say you're standing you're doing an interview in his house. And his mom makes you something And then you roll up a paper towel and you go windy And do a skky hook and he says, you just say Wemby or Windy? And then he learns and the sky hook becoming a major problem with the SBA. Like everybody and their brother is stumbling over it. Like I can give you a list last ten. guys all the time. Yeah. it's true. we're having the guy from the Surs on part of my tank today. The first week that that I met Victor I ended up in a car with him. We were riding to an Italian restaurant he loves very French of him. he loves Tuffles And there's this one Italian restaurant really close to where he was living at the time where you could where you could get truffled pizza and truffled pasta. And I don't know if there was a somem truffle in season. he's like, we gott to go there And his agent was driving and I was sitting in the back. we're in a range Rover, okay? and I felt So bad for Victor because you should have seen even sitting in a Range roover likeike What is what he had to do to get his legs in that car. Yeah, you know. And I mean, obviously, I'd been in cars with very tall people before, but this was an extreme situation. Yeah. And I remember saying ictor, when you get to the U. S, you know, You've got to discover, you know an escalade Yeah a navigator. like, you know, we can do I know I know that Range overververs a beautiful car, but I'm like we We have power. we have the ability to get you with your legs out a little bit more, buddy. I because he had barely been to the United States. We do cars big. All So I got a question about Wendby because you know him a little bit Um So When he says something like, you know, I'm not worried at all or I, you know, I'm embracing this moment down, you know, oo two Is he is that sincere, Weemby or is it he is So smart and studied the game for so long that he almost knows like that's what you're supposed to say if you're going to be a Kobe, a LeBron, MJ, one of these killers because I can't fully understand which one is which I these both Okay. I think He knows what we's supposed to say, but I also think he's pretty honest this is one of the things about Victor, the more people are going to see. he's pretty honest. I mean, he says re pretty borderline arrogant to full blown arrogant stuff in press conferences all the time. Right. When he first came to the US He gives his first press conference. I'm talking about when he played that game. Um U when he was, you know, in his sort of gap here when he was waiting to get drafted and he played against Scoot Henderson with the J League at nnight. he came over with his team and they played in Vegas. Remember that? And they're like in the lead up to that first game and he' like, Yeahah, Scoot Henderson would have been the number one pick, but he if unfortunately was born the same year as me And I was like and like he does he says stuff like that where you don't necessarily doesn't come off his smack talk and you think about it and you're like, Damn, he just really said some trash. He's not afraid to be like super honest. So I take what he says mostly for the truth. Okay So I do think he feels that way And I do think like Yeah, he says I should be the MVP you know, all these things like he says how he feels. So I'm going to take it at face value. Okay. Can we switch gears real quick and talk a little about Yonis? because I saw that you had some comments about Janis and the rumor out there that maybe the Celtics might be interested in them. And you don't think that that's the case right now, correct. Well, I just When it comes to this is the same thing with LeBron I see a lot of people jumping to to step four Okay. And I get it. like that's that's what's fun about being a fan. like I'm not saying don't do it, but like Like people are jumping to like LeBron taking the minimum from somebody. Now I'm like, okay, that, I guess it's under the realm of possibility. LeBron could do it. but like Steps one, two, and three have to happen. And when it comes to you know, the idea that the Celtics would be interested in Yianis Before There's any Jonis Boston conversation. You got to know that Janis wants to resign with the Celtics. He's got one year on his contract. You are not paying let's forget about the concept of whether the Celtics would be better if they traded Jayen Brown for Yachs. Let's put that bit aside. Yanis has to say I want to be a cultan becausecause he's got one year on his contract Jayle and Bronowns under contract for like three more years You're not going to take a player who's won you a championship, who's under contract three more years and trade him plus potentially other stuff. for a player who is not committed So first things first Does Jonas want to be with your team Okay, if that's a yes Then you proceed onto the idea of like Well, You know B by the way, I'm not zooming past A team is ready every team in the league is ready to sign Yanest to a four year two hundred eighty million dollars extension Probably there are a lot of them. if he gets traded Probably the team that trades for is prepared to do that. This guy's been really injured a lot in the last three years and he's in his thirties. I would probably do it, but I'm just saying like, I'm not one hundred percent certain that the Celtics feel that way. If we're gunch your head. Gun your head. So so you have to answer this question Where's he playing next year? I think I think Miami is a strong contentnder to trade forum at this moment U I think there were some other teams can and will make compelling offers leading up to the draft But I think Janis That's a place where I think Yonis wants to play And I think that's a place where they would sign them. So they satisfy You know and they want to trade for them. L these are three check check markarks that I can put in the Miami ledger. Okay. I think there's some other teams that would like to get there to that point. U I don't think Miami can make the best offer Um, you know, and, you know, the people in the folks, some of the folks in Miami think that they can make the best offer. That's a debate and nobody will know all the offers except for the people in the bucks front office. But I'll say this Look at the Jimmy Hlam owns the Cleveland Brown Okay. I don't know anything about the player. I don't I don't anything about football. I don't know anything about the player that he just traded for with Miles Garret But I know that they traded for draft compensation and a player who can help them immediately who's under contract It would seem to me that he would have the same standard for A yan is trade And and it and and it'ss it's not clean because He's only a part owner. You know, you have the general manager, you have what Janis potentially would want. You have the other owner West Edens, who technically has the governorship right now But like That trade that he made, okay with Miles Garrett You think about this. They got nine years out of them Okay. The team is no longer a contender with them Okay, he is still in his prime They flip him for a guy who is younger under control and significant draft compensation. Right. Janis is in his thirties. He's I think he and Miles Garret They may be like almost the same age. They may be off by a year off, right? U That is, I think the kind of return that he would want, the same type of package so And I think the fact that Jimmy Hallam made that trade with the Browns kind of gives you an idea of what he thinks about where a franchise could be. because I don't think the Browns are contenders next year. This, I do know because I'm a Browns fan. And I don't think the bucks are contenders next year. Yeah. And so T to the niners for Brock Purdy I don't know enough about I don't that may be a great comparison. I don't know enough about You could be joking on it goes over my head. I Wh's D Shawn Watson this? Would this be like the bucks signing Terry Roser I am being told that Deeshaun Watson is ready for a comeback. You have two quarterbacks. careful with the things. have You have two quarterbacks. Todd Munkin said. you got to guess what you to But up to. He said that. Wait you said something there though. that was interesting. you So you don't think LeBron is going to sign a vet midman with Cleveland I mean, it's not impossible, but the idea that that is where he's at right now, I you know could happen I still have not heard definitively LeBron's playing next year. Hm. Now Is he probably going to play? Like if you said to me, you have to make a a projection right now, I would say I think he's going to play But like people have got him in a minimum with the calves and starting opening night and I I'm not even sure he's playing Okay, let's say he decides to play. fine. Now is he going to sign with the Lakers All right Can they work out a deal Can the Lakers work out a deal where where they retain LeBron, but they also get him into a salary That is You know, because the thing about LeBron is The Lakers to some extent will be bidding against themselves. Right becausecause the teams that have salary cap space Um, you know Chicago. Brookly you know You know, Detroit, I guess Detroit could but it doesn't make sense for those teams. Right. So The if if the Lakers are like bidding like way up twenty five, thirty million, they are in fact bidding against themselves. I don't think anybody they're not like trying to beat a competing offer. At the same time, LeBron was an all NBA player this year And He's also at all time legend and Jerry Bus. set the standard for the Lakers that's you treat your legendary players well. so that you can get more legendary players. This is a cornerstone of the Lakers business operations and Jeannie Bus has picked that up So do you really want LeBron to walk out the door disgruntled? because you're trying to get the best deal and not bid against yourself. because Let's say you do let him walk. What's your plan in free agency? Like There isn't you know LeBron twenty ten isn't there, you know, you're not trading out LeBron twenty twenty six for LeBron twenty ten. Right Like You know, so I believe that the Bron and the Lakers can probably come to terms on an agreement that will help them that will get them both in a good place. But it could get a little bit rocky because the Lakers would essentially probably be bidding against themselves. Okay, let's say you get past that. Let's say you get LeBron' going to play, Okaykay, check that box. you get to the point where LeBron and the Lakers can't come to terms And I'm not ready I'm not ready for that yet. I am not ready to say that that was going to happen. I still think that that is most likely fifty one percent or whatever. notot guaranteed, but most likely. Okay. now let's say you've now checked that box and I see people Setting land speed records running past that. like it's no it's no big deal Then you have to say, okay, if LeBron's going to leave in free agency 's going to take a pay cut How much pay cut is he willing is he willing to take? Be he's making fifty five million in made all NBA Okay You know, the minimum is three million. And people say Well the guy's a billionaire, like what's the difference to him whether he takes three million or fifty five million? Cool. If you want to spend fifty million of his dollars You can do that And we may get to to june tenth or you know, june eighteenth and I might be told, The Braon is in fact willing to play for the minimum And if that's the case Then we're going to have a different conversation. I have not been told that Maybe he's made that decision Maybe other reporters, mayaybe Sams knows right now that Leron's willing to play for the Mm. I haven't heard that I'm not going to tell you that I know everything. I haven't heard it That's a big gap to make. And by the way, in between that is Well, what if you would play for another amount of money? like fifteen million, which is what the mid level exception is which a team like You know, a team like Golden State could potentially get there if they do some things. if they make some decisions, they could potentially get there Um, There's just a ton of check of places to check markark. But if you ask me on the stand Could LeBron play for for the calves for the minimum? Sure It's not against the law It could it could happen, but there's a lot of things that have to that have to fall into place first Yeah. I would play for free for the record. What have you heard regarding Anthony Edwards after after these playoffs? Is he he still in a good space with Minnesota I think we have to see what Minnesota wants to do they do with their roster. you know, Um Minnesota was trying to trade for Yanis at the deadline. Okay. So They ended up having a pretty good playoff run. you know, They've won five playoffs years last three years I don't think, you know, I think yeah, I think u andnt Mrs Cat because The double teams that now come his way Um They really annoy him. You can tell it really gets under his skin but the double teams And those double teams didn't come as frequently when he was playing with a guy who could kill you from the outside like that. Um, And so the, you know, if I were Aunt Edwards, I'd be like Becauseuse you know, one of the reasons they traded and not one of the main reason they traded him was to get out of the second apri It wasn't even so much to I mean, they saved money absolutely, but They had to get out of the second apron. And if I was Anne Edwards, I'd be like Jayen Brunson has Carl Towns and um ain't in the second apron you know, and, you know, Brunson and toowns are thriving together. and I mean, Ant's like, you know What's going on here U, but They want they were trying to get Yas at the deadline. and last year at the deadline they were trying to get Kevin Durant So we know that the Timberwolves are trying to get superstar players You know, they they're trying. That's what their actions are telling us. So they haven't gotten them yet and they've done a good job with the talent they have considering their injuries. Um, So let's see what happens this summer. I you know, Andnt has multiple years left on his contract. He's not at the place and I have not heard You know, I know maybe other people have heard something. Again, I'm not I don't have that market corner on all intelligence. I have not heard that Anne is anything but dedicated to the Timberwolves, but I do know the Timberwolves feel a level of pressure to improve their roster. I know this because they tryed to trade for Durant and they tryed to trade for Janis and they may be trying to trade for Janis again So let's see where the wolves are at the end of the summer. Weindy, we didn't have you on before the playoffs. How did the hotel reservations go? What were the What were the ones you made? Did you get them right Yeah. so I canceled ten hotel reservations ahead in Boston I took a photo. I took a photo of my inbox when I cancellled all because you know You don't know whether you have to have them for the different dates. Right. You know, like you you don't just make one for two weeks. The finals can be All kinds of different dates. They could be the home team, they could be the road team, the finals could move a little bit I had to cancel ten because I had it for the conference finals and finals. Okay. So I had egg all over my face on Boston I made Um I made reservations in Oklahoma City in San Antono. I made Oklahoma City reservations like in November And guys, I had such a crazy rate in Oklahoma City. I literally was gonna pay like one hundred and seven dollars an, I mean, ESPN pays, but I was going to bring down our whole average as a company. I had this hotel for one hundred and seven dollars a night. I mean, like if youn't booked it, like during the Western Compnce Filals, it was like three hundred fiftyents. Yeah. Look at. I scored this incredible deal that was, you know going to make a significant difference on ESPN's bottom line, which they were never going to say anything. U But it broke my heart to cancel those great reservations. But I also made reservations in San Antonio. Okay I made them like in There was some moment in January of February where I said Vict Victor's ready. and So those were the three that I had going into the playoffs. Oh, you didn't have the mix I did not have the knicks. Wow. And I never made them in Cleveland. Even though I was in Cleveland, My hometown for the conference finals. you know, I never made them in Cleveland. I'm sorry to say to the cavs fans Wait, what kind of rate did you get for the knicks? Yeah, you got to be you probably. It's bad. It's really bad. And you know, there's the World Cup If there is a game six Um You're sleeping on the streets. Yeah,'s I mean, it's going to be bad. We're going to be sleeping in Jersey and I think I might have to walk through the tunnel You don't I'll right now letting They're not letting cars in. The bar stool New York office is on is literally like a stone's throw from Madison Square Garden. You can see my on a couch in the There's a shower in there too. Let's negotiate. But that one's on the house Amazing, you know, like all you have to do is just be on pick Central before you go over to MSG. justust do one live show and then go get over Yeah get on over. No, I made reservations in New York after after I saw them demolish Philly. And I mean, so I, you know, I admit I was not on the Nicks I did not see the Kicks making this run. That's the craziest part about this is like I think everyone thought the East was, you know we everyone knew the East was weaker than the West going into the playoffs just in terms of the talent at the top. There weren't a lot of people who are like this next team is going to just steamroll everyone and they have steamrolled everyone. It is one of the greatest runs We've seen in like MBB if they finish this job, especially if they finish it in the next two games It will be One of the greatest runs we've ever seen in terms of team basketball Is there a person on this planet Wh if If forty five days ago, when they were down to one to the Hawks And I'm talking about Carl Towns's father Carl Towns himself, or the biggest Carl Towns fan in the Northeast If I Um, told them forty five days ago that number one The Kicks would not lose for forty five days. They would be like, oh, did they lose the next You know, did they that's a forfeit this year. likeike, you know, Are they out? Is that why they haven't lost? Gight? that the Nicks would not lose for forty five days and that Carl Towns would dominate Vikor Wbonyama to such a degree that he was saying They can't do any effing thing with me or whatever he said coming off the court And he was a strong candidate to be the Fals MVP two games into the Fals. Was there anybody who would have genuinely believed that that was true No, like I don't think so. I'm, you know, like like, you know, in their heart of hearts if anybody would have said that. It's so it'sly unpredictable. Yeah. it's right what do you think it what's the biggest change that you've noticed with Kat's defense because he is playing defense now. what wasas there a moment where you said, o He's figured something out So first off, this is a thing and this again sounds like elementary analysis. Cat is very big Yes, you know, and When you have size, you know, it makes a difference. You know, there's so, you know, there's The Thunder and other teams have tried to use smaller players on Wimbinyama. When I watched him play in France When he was eighteen That's what the teams by the second time around, you know, they play like, you know Round Robin in the French League by the second time around the league That's what they hadd gone to. They hadd started playing their strongest big their strongest forward They gave up trying to play centers on him and they just put like the strong power forward on him. And that's happened in the NBA teeams are just trying to put like their strongest you know, forward on him, whether that's Julius Randall or Alex Carusso And um And so when the when the series started We're like, okay, is it going arere they going to go with An Nobi out of the gate? Are they going to try Josh Hart And here comes Carl Towns from the first possession notot like, okay Ananobbe has two fouls. Josh Harts exhausted. Mitchell Robinson, you know, it's haack a mitch time get him out of the court He was on the game plan because the next coaching staff believed that he could do it because they watched him And they studied him and they said, Hey, listen, in the games he's played against against town or against Victor He's held his own And part of it is he's just got really good size and he can move his feet a little bit. I mean, he's not going to confuse you for like a defensive player of the year. He's not out there like go bar He can move his feet a little bit and he's long and Victor can't get past him And he's avoided stupid fouls. He got the two fouls real quick, but I'm going to pg him a pass on that in game two because I'm I feel like one of them was really questionable But he's avoided his stupid fouls. He's been fine with physical play. and he's just at times, he's just shoving Victor out of the way. Like there's a rebound company's like, no You're not getting it. Yeah. And He won the tent the other night against against Victor. The Nick, I know. H. That's crazy. It's like this is a level of effort that we haven't even thought about seeing from Kat over the entire And the cultures knew it and believed in him and put him in that position. Yeah So, u he sounds like a different guy Yeah. Yeah His entire demeanor is different And like the confidence that he was talking about today He was talking to Jeremiah Fiers he was basically like Um All the people that bad mouth me and whatever. They don't get to celebrate this chapter with me He was like talking about like somebody who truly had arrived. I was like, like I'm like, wow, like Carl, becauseuse I mean I've followed Carl's career for a long time. I remember you know, The day he was drafted, I did an interview with him for ESP and like a sit down interview in Minneapolis and I've, you know, I've I've done feature stories on him and stuff and I've covered him at the World Cup when he's played for the Dominican. And he talked about all that stuff Like this is a completely different Carl Towns that I'm seeing on the court and I'm hearing talk about the game I'm very happy for him. Yeah. because he is someone who gets Maline for stupid reasons a lot of times. It becomes, you know, internet joke and it's really cool that he's having these moments in the way he's talking about the game and his mom after the game. It's cool. just say these are why we watch sports like these type of redemption arcs. Can I just say I' mean to interrupt you Cat? Yeah In game one, He was doing this interview, the game had just ended And he's talking about like this real deep philosophical stuff about you know How his mother was looking down on him. And like literally he's still sweating. He's not he didn't say this two days later Like he's like he's like like his mental space is very aligned too. Yeah I don't know. it's you know, sometimes you hear the phrase put it all together Maybe that's what we're seeing here. It feels that way. Wendy, what type of sunglasses you wear Um I had Maui gyms for a couple years and I recently broke them. Okay in a stupid way. I slammed my car door on them. so I bought two Or three very cheap pairs off of Amazon. I think they're twenty dollars. They don't even know the brand. You're serving looks in the San Antonio The hair was going, the glasses were going. Youiew You're like I think a lot of guys look at you like, Damn that guy' he's got everything. Give my man some shady raays. Yeah Look get this s So Listen We I know you guys have done a lot of shows like out in the, you know, you go on the road during football season and it's like still hot. Sos like I don't know what kind of stuff you got taken care of, but like The crew that we had in San Antonio was prepared We had You couldn't see it. we had air conditioning Oh we don't get No we don't get that that were shooting. I mean, it wasn't like cold air, but it was like chill air up at us and you couldn't even see Mhm. I wouldn't even sweat. Oh wow I was like youone soft as womy This sounds like, you know, some A list type stuff here. I know this is I got the the McAfee treatment. I got the Stehven A treatment. like we had the We had like what Chris Berman would have. Like we got the treatment. Yeah. I'd never had such effort been done to make sure I was comfortable. And so I was up, I mean, it was hot as hell And we had great fans there out of all the outdoor shows we've ever done during the finals over the years. The fans in San Antonio were the best fans and there were Ns fans there too and the sides were getting along maybe because it was early in the series Man, I I was fine. likeike, you know,, you know, Perk was up there sweating. I don't know. Maybe Maybe the maybe they didn't hook him up. Maybe he wasn't getting it blowing on his head. I was I had a cool drink. I could have sat there all day. Perk runs hot. Yeah. What do think Stehven A has in store for us with the series G backack to New York? Is he Is this is he going to be humble? Is he keeping his head down? Is he just like one game at a time or do you think he's he's ready to start the parade? He's trying to maintain his composure. Because what you if you arere on C and A at all, you will see that when the cameras turn off He's still very much like the guy you see on TV. Now obviously he turns up a little bit. And I'm not saying if you wake him up at three in the morning, he's going to be like that. T. After game one He did Scott Van Pel. I could see him holding it in on Vamppeell. He did not want to go crazy He did Vampelt and he got off the air and so he's, you know, no one was seeing this And he just came to me and he grabbed my jacket. And he goes more. He was almost like vibrating was Three more like It is His N's fandom is not an act Like he may amplify It obviously, to a certain extent for a television audience to be entertaining But his core fandom is there. I've watched it Yeah. And so he is He is trying to maintain his composure I don't know what's going to happen if they win two more games. It's it's it's going to be a scene. I'm excited for tonight watching at MSG. All right, Weindy, you're the best. I got one last question for you Rback question RHO BAK dot com promo code take. twenty percent off your first purchase, Q ips, pololos hoodies, joggers, shorts, Robak d. com promo code take. Again, listen to the hoop collllective Watch Wendy on ESPN. They're going to have, you know, draft coverage coming up after the NBA F finals, free agency, everything. He's going to be have us tuned in for all that. Zach, do you have a question for Wendy? We have two massive Nicks fans in our booth ack and Mmes means if you got a question too, you can throw one out there You guys, you bys got a question for Wendy How doing today, sir? I'm doing great. You don't have to call me, sir. my God. He calls us He calls us, sir too every day it's crazy. I was curious a little bit earlier in the interview, you spoke to being around this Nick team here recently Just as a viewer from home watching the games I've never really seen a team across any sports or any sport with such unity that I'm seeing on the court with the Nicks. like the togetherness that you can feel when they're out there playing. like one guy is kind of down, not doing the best. they're right there picking him back up and vice versa. And I just wonder if you could speak to K of how that's been to see up close. Yeah. so I spent a week with the Kicks in Abu Dhabi Back in October, I went there. They had like a, you know, they played two games there. Philly was there too And I spent that week with them and u They were They were very confident about this season They like, I think they genuinely believe they could do this from from day one. And so did there're like so did Jim Dolan. like Jim Dolan, like whatever level the Yonest trade was offered. I know there's all this playing with language and I know that the Bck have had like one foot in and one foot out, and Yonus is the same, whatever. But the phone call was made. a conversation was had And they were like, no. were' good. We're good, okay? And um They didn't change their roster at all from last year. I mean, you know, I, you know, they added like some G to the edge like like S shamon or whatever. But it's the same team because they believe because like I think I see These teams lose in the in the in the playoffs and then you inevitably get like, well, they've got to make big changes. And like the Kicks were like, no, we believe in this team And so number one, how many playoffs series is this cps played together? They've played like I don't know, probably you know, over the last two years it's been seven playoffs series like year before maybe it was two like they've had like nine or ten playoffs series of this core together You that's that's your ten thousand hours. You go through like three or four seasons and like nine playoff series, highs and lows. and the organization like spoke to them and was basically like, we trust all of you. We believe in all of you. This team and like From day one, like they didn't care what seed they were. Like obviously if they were fighting for the six seed, we'd have had a problem. But like they didn't care they were the three seed. All they cared about was like getting healthy and getting their games to where they wanted to go And the other thing is this crowd, this garden crowd They love this team Bike The garden crowd is obviously typically boisterous, but typically very cynical. This crowd loves this team. They love this team like they're the ninety four Kicks. reggardless what happens in this series twentywenty years from now, you're going to be seeing Josh Arton Mcaail Bridges, Jayalen Brunson, Mitchell Robinson sit in courourtside because the fans love this team And there's a real There's there's a real unity that comes along with that. Now you watch them play, there's a discipline when they drive the ball five times in the same possession and keep kicking it out. I mean, that's coaching. that's you know, Togetness, that's discipline, but like it didn't just happen overnight. This is a thing that, you know, people try to steal things from other teams. They never Nobody ever wants to steal patience. They want to steal the player. They want to steal a coach. they want to steal executive. Nobody ever wants to steal patience because patience is hard. it's slow. Well, that's what this team's had They've had patients and you know what? You look under the hood a little bit You look at Leon Rose, and I'm just telling you I'm not close to Leon Rose in case Like anybody thinks I'm carpon for him like, he used to be LeBronze agent I would see him all year long. He doesn't, he kept the imediate at arms leng. Maybe he talked to some media members. I mean, we have a quord relationship you know, He you know, he sort of works in silence Leon Rose put together the big three in Miami. Now I know Pat Raley played a role and Obviously LeBron Duwne and Bosch had to get together and do it. But Leon Rose organized that He he was with CIA. He got all of them to agree to contracts. were the same length. He got them all in the same page. He like set all that up. L that was like Like he was his hand was on the steering wheel. of that move. and now Look at this He's on the steering wheel, his hands on the steering wheel of potentially breaking this long I mean, obviously the players have to do it and Brunson has to be great. I'm not saying, but like Look at this bad ass. Yeah. It's really crazy. And like This other guy that, you know, in West Westley, Leon and West are pretty much side by side. This other guy who works in the N front office, hisis name is Brock Allller Nobody knows what he looks like. He doesn't want anybody to know what he looks like. Okaykay? Brock Aller was in the cs, he was the calav's head of strategy and cap management when they put the team together that build that championship. Now obbviously, I know LeBron James was the one who won that championship. and LeBron called Kevin Love and said Kevin, please come to come with me and that that was like, I don't want to make it sound like it was, but they did like ten different creative, weird ass revolutionary moves to put that team together And he helped break the fifty three or fifty four year drought in Cleveland without championship Now he's here, okay. And Leon Rose hired him because he was LeBronze agent and he saw how he worked. He was like this guy's a killer that nobody knows about. He hired him here and all these Nicks maneuvers, like the Kicks made like Three or four undernderground like stealth moves to get the Cf space to sign Jalen Brunson The Mavericks didn't even think that he was going to New York because they didn't have the cap space. Right. They're like they're like, they can't get him. and if they want to get him, they got to call us to do a sign and trade and we're not doing it All of a sudden, smoke and mirrors came out and the Nicks popped out on the other end with enough cf space And the mavericks were like, who, how they do that? And the Carl Towns trade, go look at it. That was some wild ass wizardry to do the Carl Towns trade and keep them under the second apron. anyyway What I'm saying to you is all of these guys on the Ns are deeply, deeply invested. I like a five year plan All of them have like done a great job But it's Josh Hart whether it's Bridges, whether it's Brunson All of them have done a great job. So there's this really incredible franchise alignment that's coming together. and they get two more wins and they all get rings Sometimes your franchise comes together and And you don't get rings and you all get fired. That happens more often than not You talk about togetherness, it's because all of these guys are masters at what they do whether it's Josh Hart getting rebounds or Mitchell Robinson being the, you know, the goon off the bench or whether it's Jayalen Brunson as the clutch guy, whether it's the stretch five of Carl Town, whether it's the coach, whether it's the GM, whether's the strateg guy. They're all really good at what they do. They've all been they've all got years combined into I know I'm filibustering here and they all get it aligned and they all play their they all do their best at the exact same time. In a way, it's kind of beautiful. And the city here in New York is absolutely in love with it. And people are saying to me like, donon't you think it's going to be crazy inside the garden Monday night It's gonna be crazy in the city. When I saw the videos when the game ended, like people who were over in Jersey, and they could hear the city reacting to the next winning. Like you see videos like in you know Buenos Aares or Paris, when like PSG scores or Argentina scores, and you hear the city react. That is how New York is being right now The special thing happening in New York isn't just in the garden, it's in the city. And they all love these guys and they're all playing and they're doing their jobs in the best. It's kind of beautiful in a way. And it's not something that we normally see. from the next And it's not something we normally see from like a big city. Normally this is a small town thing. Yeah. So that's what's all happening right now. It is beautiful. It's not kind of beautiful. It's why we watch sports Like, you know, the community and everyone coming together. It's awesome. M mean, did you have a question? You just fired me up by saying Can you hear how fired up memes is right? now far? I have a question about your career. What is the Mount Rush Moreor finals that you've covered Oh great quest. G quest. What she memes Man, why didn't I do this on my own podcast? Yeah U All right. well twenty sixteen, twenty sixteen. was the most amazing year of my career because you have to understand Kobe is retiring and he goes on that tour where like every stop the players are, you know, are washing his feet. You know, and like it's just amazing and he has the sixty point game to end it, you know, mamba out iconic moment. The wararriors win seventy three And we see them do that chase during the year. Conference finals, game six clay Warriors are down three one, comeback and win Finals, cals are down three one, come back win Cleveland. this is for you Even though of those seven games, like five of them were not close Um, and like I have like no recollection of anything that actually happened in like game three. Um twenty sixteen, definitely on Mount Rushmore. Yeah. Heat spurs twenty thirteen The Ray Allen shot and then really an under, you know, people all remember the game six comeback in Miami Um, Ray Allen because of that shot and everything was amazing, but Game seven was a tremendously highly contested, well played game where LeBron hit a couple of enormous shots down the surret of that game to seal That championship Is that the one was that the game that Duncan missed the the hook bunny. Yeah Duncer misses the bunny and LeBron comes down with one second on the shot clock, hits the shot that puts him goes from two to four to basically ice it, you know One of the biggest shots LeBronzes career that you know, when people say, what are the highest LeBrone career? they never mention that. I was like, Oh, well, he just made like a again, a clutch jumper to win a championship. likeike why would that be on your list? but Um so that was and that was a little bit different. That was a two, three two series. The situation was different Um, you know, u San Antonio came back to Miami up three two and Miami won the last two games Um, it was I think it was like the sort of convinced them to change it quite frankly. So that's that's there. I guess I would put last years is up there. I mean, a seven game finals last year where Indiana like Steals game one And you know, you know has a master of full performance in game six to force to game seven. Um, you know, any any seven game finals, you know, is is up there. And then let me think the fourth one. I enjoy, you know, the The finals with the Celtics and the Warriors U The Warriors were down in that series two one. And the Celtics were looking very strong in TD Garden in game four. puts up forty Um whichich is my second favorite steuff moment after the Olympics which will, you know, is on my Mount Rushmore. The the two great experiences I've ever had covering a game where twenty sixteen Game seven where Nobody could score for fifteen minutes and the block in the shot and what have you. U then the second one was watching Curry throw in threes or whatever in that fourth quarter in Paris and literally break the French heart. U and you know, seeing him run down the court and give the night night while Carmela was jumping fifteen feet in the air You know, he ran past the, um, you know, the American players. Um, you know, that's up there too. I mean, I don't know if I can put sneak Dad on my Mount Rushmore, but that series where the because that wararriors team, you obviously had won the three titles and then they crashed their team all the way down rebuilt it and came back up with sort of a differently structured team and beat the team in Boston. There was a championship level team. Theyviously came back later and won, you know, one, two years later to see Steph score forty in the garden and then come back and close them out there the, you know, the, you know, the the cream of the crop moment. I really think That was the, you know, the real jewel of the of the warriors run. They obviously You know, had three other championships, but that one in twenty twenty two just meant so much more to them. So I would think I would sneak that on there, but I reserve the right to say that I forgot a certain series and I could just say that you creatively edited out and you screwed me. I reserve that. No, those is great answer Um Windy, you're the best. Also Next time you come Chicago, please tell us You were here for a couple days for for the for the draft lottery. I was I would love to do. I was there for like twenty hours. Okay I love Chicago, especially in the spring. I have great memories of covering cals, buowls and Heat Bowls playoff series As you guys know, it is amazing in the spring and early summer. It's like Toronto Being in Chicago and Toronto in June is unbelievable Um, but the bulls have to keep up theirre under the bargain. Yeah. I haven't been there for bulls for a while, but u Yeahe next time I'm in Chicago, let's know I'm coming. Okay. Love it. Weindy, you're the best. Enjoy game three. Ejoy your live show on Tuesday night I feel like Nicks fans are no longer going to be mad at you. they're too happy. So you're on the good side They're mad at me because I said that I thought that the Celtics would beat them last year. Yeah. and you shouldn't have. That was could you U I have a question for you before I go. Yeah Um What do you when I say the words Hammond, Indiana, what do you say? Okay. We already we already talked about this. I'm sorry. No, no. it's fine. I' It's it's just ridiculous. Well actually my first my first reaction would be Horseshoe Casino, G casino. G casino in him in Indiana spent had some actually incredible blackjack runs at him in Indiana Um, It's just a joke. The whole thing's a joke. It's insane that we're here because they're from their way here, okay? Yeah And, um, Uh they're building the stadium a new stadium in Cleveland att the airport, rightight And let me just tell you, when I was In my early twenties and I bought my first condo For ninety five thousand dollars. I bought it in Brookpark, Ohio Why are they're building this stadium And I think it's insane. Yeah. literally, nobody ever in their lives has ever said Let's do something cool. What are we going to do? Let's go to the Cleveland Airport Yeah. So I'm saying that as a former resident of this city. Yeah and a Cleveland Browns fan. and they're going to move it off of the lakefront And they're taking it to the airport. Okaykay? And I say take it to the airport, I'm not saying like it's, you know, it's five miles from the airport The runway is here and like Patrick Mahom's bomb, the football stadium is there. It's across the street. Nobody They said, well, that's where the land was. Well, no kidding. Yeah. now As insane as it is to build a football stadium in Cleveland at the airport that the bears are Two options are Next, you know, a suburb of Madison, Wisconsin And Hammond, Indiana It's great How's going on? It's It sucks. It sucks. I think all the new stadiums. I think we're going to get to a point We've talked about this before Brown's perfect example. The Bears We're going to get to a point in like twenty, twenty five years where we're going to look back and be like, why did we put all of our football stadiums indoors Like what Why did we do that? We just We took this element of it and we moved them all out of their cities and the chiefs are moving and the Broncos are moving indoors Browns are going indoors going to the airport. The bears might be going to him. I think it's going to be a big regret. I think we'll look back and be like, why did we do that? Let's put an indoor stadium at the airport Why is Soldier Field need replaced? It doesn't need replaced. It's the bears don't own Soldier Field So they lease it from the city of Chicago. The city of Chicago, which is actually a great thing that they've they've done forever is that no private company can own anything east of Lakeshore Drive. So basically the entire stretch of the lake is for the public, which is great because you don't want it to be the entire all the lakefront is just private condos for the richest people So the bears can't own a stadium there. the city owns a stadium. They lease it from the city And the pressures is coming from the NFL basically saying build the new stadium so that the bears now can be worth eight billion dollars instead of seven billion dollars. It all sucks like anything in these situations, the biggest loser, whether it be the Browns, the chiefs, the bears, the br the biggest losers is always going to be the fans and the taxpayers So all right. Yeah, sorry. No, it sucks U I'm still holding out hope that they just sort like This whole thing stupid will'll just stay at So soldier field I know it's probably not going to happen All right. All right. the Redskins are building a beautiful stadium in the middle of the town, right? BFT, like it's no problem. They're moving back. So's that's where they were Rkins would be the leaders, the high leaders. What happened I'm sorry, the commanders. I commanders. Yeahah, yeah. withith a football team. You can call them whatever you want. But yeah, they did, what the bears are doing right now is exactly what they did back in the early to mid nineties It was a terrible mistake. terrible mistake. They moveved to a slless dump in the middle of nowhere The one thing they had to foresight to do, they made The town changed the name when the Redskins moved up there. Now they change it to something stupid called Ral John, Maryland, which was the first names of Jack Kink Cook's sons, Ralph and John So they called it Ral John Maryland I was telling Big Cat that that Hammond, they should change the name of the town or at least where the stadium is And just call it like Bear Cry. Yeah. likeike you're in Bear C country Indiana. You're in Bear Country, Indiana.. Like welcome to the cave. Yeah. You know, like that would that would at least be a nice mom. This is why you're a marketing genior. Yeah, But this is what I'm looking forward to in forty years when we're actually doing part of my take We'll be going back to the city of Chicago. think's going to be looking at the the like architecture renderings of what the stadium iss going to look like on Lakeshore D drive be like o, this's going to be so. You'll just be recording it at four PM. Yeah Yeah.'ll be Tony and Mike special. You guys will be like Tony and Mike. you'll do your show at four PM. Mike Tony and Mike. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. All right, Windy, you're the best. We love having you on and enjoy Monday night Have a great week Wendy was brought to you by Noble. This episode is brought to you by Noble Barcel' favorite foote brand Noble is a brand known for their best in class footwear They're everywhere right now. walking around city to city at the airport. coffee wherever I go, I see noble They've got so many great styles and colors for every activity. 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You stop checking the time and small talk escalates to laughing so hard that you can barely catch your breath That is the Cuervo effect. It's a signal that everybody understands, a moment that anyone can join and a good time that just grows. All you have to do is keep it quervo All right boys piss by the way. Did you guys see this fake lazy river Yeah. it's ye, the Costco one. Yeah, I mean, well, Dante Te being like, Hey, we should buy this and I just said I'm in and then I find out it's fake. That thing would have been awesome. It's Yeahah. Wh don't why don't they should we should have a laser river. that That's one of those ones where like it's too Costco does have deals like that they're like, hey, here's a lazy river for nine doars ninety nine. That might have radicalized me against AI like fully Like I'm done with the ey. Yeah, that's what I'm saying likeike that's so spot on. that I'm pissed because that should exists and it should be as cheap as nine niney nine. yeah. M just pulled one up that's ten grand. I want Because you know the one that you if Costco ever did this for under a thousand dollars, you'd buy it. it'd work for like a week and then it would break, but it would be the greatest week of your life. The funniest part was that Dante saw Lazy Rver for nine hundred ninety nine dollars. he was like Do I know anyone that can afford this like Yeah. I would I would see if it was nine ninety nine c, I would Buy it first, ask questions later. Dude, it's ninears ninety nineents. That's not a thousand dollars. Yeah. That'sine get you ninety nine. Yeah. That's how they get. I may or may not be having it I' having conversation with somebody about a flight simulator, full sizeed flight simulator. Doont we have one? No Like I'm talking like cockpit. I'm talking like it moves Didn't we buy like a whole computer and up? We never used. It was extream. I did. And then we never use it again. So I bought it That'sact that's exact streaming. Is it do we have the simimulator still I haven itt yet. Is it your house? It's at my house. but we've got the VRs like the headset right there and the the joystick right there, but I'm talking like, An actual like F eighteen cockpit. You talking you talking Aa? And then you said it moves. moves It goes like up Youre talking Mohammad Aa? F eighteen Well, no, J' just saying like the flight simulator that moves. No, that' that's a different one. Okay. That was a different one because we don't want that. I only work on takeoff and landing They announced updates to Microsoft Fight S today D at the showcase Yeah. Oh, the showcase. Did you watch the showcase live Not lie but I didn't You would have actually had them interested if you said mentioned that point. Yeah Zach. Yeah Zach, you got to you got to hit us with what we like. They Okay. so Microsoft ight twenty four, they announced updates. What are the updates? Can do they have military aircraft now?ire canan you fire missiles? I didn't have the exact part notes on what they're putting into it. I just know they're revampanting a little bit, which exciting That's exciting Maybe upgrade your weapons. Yeah. Hey, it's birthday week for Hank. How about that? Yeah Oh you said a Wednesday on the Friday show. Your birthday Saturday Yeah. I got my dates confused. Yeah. yourour birthday is Saturday I know your birthday.un it's jun thirteenth. So shout out to my grandather's birthday today. Oh yeah, Hppyirthday, hands grandather All right numbers two No, that's what I was gonna go. I'll go with eleven four You guys You You never guessed two. Now but two more wins. twenty five. Oh I I didn't even put that together I have one with two, but those for twenty one What's your guess?ain, What's up, dude? What numbers have been guessed? You should guess four memes what numbers have it pay T I guess eleven I did twenty five ninety eight I did four twenty one O the three Shane. 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