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Yeah Actually no, that was definitely the best night of your life That's sports will not get any better than that then if you paid five grand to go to Madison Square Garden last night a return on that investment. It was it was incredible as bad as that first half was. And I don't think that many people left MSG. I think there's probably like a couple hundred people that might have left early. I don't know did. But by and large, I think for the most part, the crowd stay there Um What a moment that was and it you felt it building up in the second half Like just slowly, just chipping away at them Making it bites, taking one bite at a time. away from the spurs And u It ended with you can we have the debate if the spurs choked it or if the Kicks won it I don't know why it can't be both. It was it was an incredible to watch. Yeah, evenven on television. It was one of those I don't find myself particularly rooting for the Kicks. I don't find myself particularly rooting for the spurs. I want Memes and Zach to be happy U, but Just watching that last night. was like, this fucks. Well, this is why we watch sports. You know what it was too is sevvenenty six forty nine in the first half, the spurs shoot the absolute lights out. The game starts. We get the two cat fls right away. Everyone's complaining about the fouls The Kicks, I think U as bad as maybe the refs were to start the game as they missed the goal ten the capapfls. I also think the Kicks had zero composure. Like they were unraveling in the first half. They were giving up wide open threes. You had Mit Mitch Robinson get a flaggrant on on Weby like Weby doing the I'm in your head. It felt as bad as Bad could get for the Kicks and it also felt likeike we were just wasting an entire NBA finals game. So to go from that to what we watched in the second half and the Nicks to basically come out at halfime and be like we didn't hear noobel We're not giving up getet off the mat like that and chip away slowly make it fifteen going into the fourth you know, get it under ten. It was And OG andenobi just with The greatest tiip in like it just an insane. He has the block on Dern Fox. He has the tippp in It was it was nuts. I actually like sat on my couch kind of speechless after the game and like, what do I do now? That's Tom Green basketball, by the way. That's what they teach. That's what Tom does. He gets that might have been the best like thirty seconds of Defense and offensive combined in the history of the NBA. When you consider the stakes. Yeah that we that we were dealing with last night And yeah, it was it was a great awesome, incredible first half shooting by the Spurs You knew that they weren't going to keep that pace up, but it was still incredible. It did feel like the game might be over U, But when they got it, when they started chipping away in the third quarter You could feel the spurs start to panic a little bit You can feel the Nicks and the Nicks fans get more confident like every trip down the court There's a lot of room to pass around blame I will say that when you have that lead in the second half There's really no excuse for losing that game.. It's some really really bad shock decision making, some really bad like a failure to adapt as the spurrs as a whole to not be able to hold ont too that lead. justust like stop taking shots ten seconds into the shot clw. Yeah. If you do that You shorten the game enough where it doesn't matter that you you went ice cold from three in the second half. You have a big enough lead that you could protect it. Start going to the rim, start getting fouls, get to the line. You don't have to hit a three every time down the court. I know that the three is like if you have an open three, it's technically a good shot But I mean, a smart coach would say You have a twenty nine point lead It's okay if you get occasional layups If you go one for two from the line attack the basket basket. you don't have to extend this lead anymore. Well, that was the biggest thing to me is that and Dereren Fox is getting a lot of the blame and he deserves a lot of it because Darren Fox with A layup that did not need to be attempted. I understand his momentum is going that way. A layup that did not be need to be attempted with ten seconds left and he probably got fou This is actually We'll get to Hank in a second because I don't know if you noticeed something that happened last night, but Hank just didn't have his phone or something because we' texting congrats to Zach and Yeahah, security guard Mike and Beames Nothing notothing You know what happened? Nothing. So this hank, this actually looks worse for you I u my phone died in the first quarter. And I got to watch I was out at a restaurant. I got to watch the game with no phone. It was actually really, really nice. Yeah. But then after it was over, you know, the first thing I did I ran back to my house. I didn't walk. I ran back to my house. I plugged it in. So I could text congratulations to the boys, to my good friends, Memes and Zach because They're on a hell of run right now and they need to know that we support them. Yeah But we'll get to hang in a second. So Der and Fox Yeah You can't have that you can't take that lay up. you just Dribbleah maybe two seconds go off, but you get to the free throw line you have a chance to extend it to three and then equally as bad He leaves OG and Nobi on the final possession to double Jayalen Bronsson, who has Wemy on him forty feet from the basket. OG and andobi, which it was a one in I don't know, ten thousand But what made it like possible was that there was not a single body on OG and he gets a free run right to the hoop because Darren Fox gets caught ball watching and going and doubling Brunson. Just so really And Deeran Fox is their like vet, so to speak. You know what I mean? He's like who plays meaningful minutes. So terrible time for Dern Fox. Weemby was also bad in the second half. like there's no, you can't, you can't sh. He missed those two free throws where he did look like he want to be there He Weby sometimes and maybe it's energy. I don't know what it is, but he's a big dog that thinks he's a small dog. And he starts floating away from the rim and you could see it like taking jump shots, floating away from the rim, missing shots That's where it all kind of fell apart and And they just Choke, choke, choke and the Kicks are like have a killer instinct and they have Jalen Brunson. and Carl Anthony Towns bigig three and Jose Alvarado, just incredible minutes. They did it all. The Nix just can't be killed They've done this. time and time again in these playoffs. So I don't think Like there's no lead that's too big rightight? It' not a It's not like a fluke. It's this is what this next team is. They are a team that that that will step up in big moments and not give in and when you said the choke or is Nick like I think it's both. I think the the spurs are the most obvious The moment is too big and they're a young team that I've ever seen. but at the same time, the Kicks are the most obvious Killer instinct. We can play bad for three quarters, but it doesn't matter if you give us a shot in the fourth. We will step up. We will step on your throat. will tighten up on defense. Jalen Brunson will score buckets like everyone OJ OG and heart will rebound the fuck out of the ball. They'll do it all. They do all the little things. So it's a perfect comp like It's the both of these things coming together Both of them happened last night. I think it was The Spurs are the stupidest team. They're the Theyre young. They're the stupidest good team that I've ever seen and they're consistently stupid in big moments. And then the Kicks, no other team, I don't think would take advantage like the Nicks take advantage. Yeah. So like even if the Spurs are playing against another team, they get a twenty nine point lead. they're going to win that game usually. Yeah, but the Kicks are the one team that you cannot do that against and and it felt like I don't know. just based on I don't think that Sperds are dead by the way. I don't think that they are because they're very, very talented and and they're good enough to the point. You think they're dead. All right, here's here's Be I think I agree with what you're a part I agree with the first part you're saying that like the the the spurs are very talented. The problem is You're basically asking this Spurs team to finish the job on three games in a row and they can't Like twice this series, they have completely blown a big moment Yeah. Now you need them to do that three games in a row. So it's like not that I don't Yes, of course they could, but Now are you trusting them to close games three times in a row? I don't know if they have it in them. I'm asking them to grow up in in the span of two days, which is hard to do. But by the way, I have a stack I don't know that it's like one spot that I'm asking them to improve on at the end of every game. It's like You get the lead and then you play with the lead intelligently Yeah, I think that's something that you can change. And if they learn to do that, then they they're not dead. I mean, it's definitely an uphill climb You're down three to one and the Nicks are really fucking good I don't think they're de yet The Nicks So teams down twenty plus points in the post season, the last two years in the NBA The entire NBA is four and seventy one The next this post season are five and three or I guess maybe five and three the last two. Yeah. they five three, But that says They've won five games in the last two post seasons where they've been down twenty points or more. fiveive games. the rest of the NBAs w for Yeah. That's this next team. That's their DNA. They just never quit And it's insane to watch like they are They just I think it's partially like having a guy like Jalen Brunson who can who who will just keep fighting. And again, the small things they do it's just Jose Alvverado was he played so many minutes. It does it feels like the Kicks have an all star team of role players. Yeah. like they might have four of the B They might have the four best role players in the NBA right now all on their team. Yeah I would say heart in a way By the way, Josh Hart, O H Anannaobi. one of the best role players in the NBA. Now he's's he's star. You think Star? Yeah, he's star Hes he's star super super star That star. He's star He's But I guess what I'm saying is like he he's a star, but he plays like a role player. Like he's a They've got the grittiest dudes on their team I know what you're saying, but I would say he's he's the fucking. Yeah, him cat and Jalen Brunson are stars Jalen's and thenressso. Yeah. Jalen's a superstar. Cat borderline superstar Maybe superstar. No Oj's Yeahah, Oji's a certified star He's so good. And he just his motor is just he just never stops. Every he's always making the right basket And uh Josh Harp, by the way He's got a I don't know, I don't know if he needs to like send a present or like whiskey or something to Darren Fox because If Earon Fox doesn't do those two things, Josh Hart's two things would have been the main story on that comeback where he misses the layup kind of mist times the jump. He didn't know if he was going to dunk it or not. Yeah. you got to make up your mind. And then he doesn't box out Steph Castle in a huge moment And that's what he does he always is boxing people out. So he went from, oh my Godd, Josh Hart just had the worst two minutes to Just kidding it was Darn Fox. Yeah, the very very last play of the game getting a finger on that inboundnce pass probably saved the game because it looked like Castle had a step on it. And it looked like that pass might have been delivered on time They might have lost on allal you. byy the very, very tip of Cat's finger The deflection save the night It was it was a cool thing to watch. And then we could talk about the celebrity Row situation that we had last night because There were lots of them there K Kirpstreet's dog. Kirk Kerpstreet's dog was not there. Kirk wanted me to clarify that I was c to herstreet. I didn't realize he had juice like that Well, USPN has the finals. still. Yeah. Yeah Well, that was still. That wasn't juice, that was his dog is do we want to do we want to have the discussion? and I want to hear from Zach and Mmes Is Taylor Swift a bad friend for for calling dibbs on the Stevie Nicks shirt becausecause it was by far the best one No because she also brought one for Marca Hargati Okay. she was also Yeah, you do. Law and orrder SV you? Oh, yeah. Yeah. She might be She might be the MVP Nicks fan because after the game was over She like immediately started hugging Jayen Bronsson's dad. She was hugging OG on the court. I love Marisa Hard. Great fan. I would say that it's more about the conversation of what does this mean? for Philadelphia Sports fans leegacy. that they lost Taylor Swift They lost our wild Yeah. But I mean, I think if the bad sports town. If a lot of celebrities were going to a sixers game, the court side, I think she would also the a Sixer fan again. you don't think she was There for the basketball I think she was there for her friends Oh, so Taylor Swift can't like sports. She's been an X fan. She was rooting for the cabs last series. She wasn't room for a fiance's team. Yeah Yeah. And she was there to watch it. Ohre you talking about the seat that I'm going to buy? Yeah This new seat's gonna to go for a shit load of money Especially that game B I mean, listen You're already Taylor Swift I think someone else have Stevie Nickhirt You know what I'm saying? But she did. she brought one for Mar. I understand, But like it was the the three of them all game. They kept on showing was I think it was Nick Nickelback Nicole Kidman. Yeah That's the garp the worst shirt ever. Like that's the one you got to wear if you're Taylor Swift because you're Taylor Swift, everyone already' eyes on you. You took Stevie Nicks. That's the best shirt Yeah, just be a good friend That's all I'm saying. Do you see that poor? I think she was a great friend? I think I think she got her friends. I guess the best seats ever because a quarter million dollars on those sees. But still come on. like Stevie Nicks is the best shirt of those. Yeah. It was u It was it was awesome seeing that shot right after I think it was right after the u The tip in byoji and it cut to the crowd And it goes like Jerry Seinfeld. Adam Sandler freaking out U all those girls freaking out and jumping around And then there was one other person that was sitting right behind him. Oh, Scooter Bron. forgot, greatreat sports down. They were all having a good time. Close personal friend to Tylor Swift. Yeah All right, me Zach W to hear from the boys How we feel it? give us everything from last night I feel Invincible invincible. Last night was so fucking awesome. I was just sitting crissross Alesauce in front of all four of my TV's and I was just super hyper focused and just this comp I got this? I hate when Max does this. Oh what is he doing? He grabs this Yeah, because but you're charing. You just grab it I'm trying to fucking grab it. You're the one who stopped talking. We to steal his moment, Max.. I want I want the people to be able to see him when he's saying this Fair, fair, fair point Uh I forgot where it was A Max. You're about to come I work TV. I was about to come. I I never quit on the game I thought they were going to come back B them at halftime becausecause of the Celtic series from last year I knew that it was actually possible to come back because they did it twice in their own in Boston. Both times. against the defending NBA champions And you knew that would be possible against a very young team And that's happening last n I you said me was Zach. Okay, Zach This N' team has showed us all series and all playoffs, not long that if there's time on the clock, there's an opportunity. for the majority of the game It didn't feel good I'm not going to say I lost hope or step, but it didn't feel the best. It almost felt as if You know, we get it under twenty. It's like, okay, here it is little momentum and they juice it back up a little bit. And then we get there. it's like, okay, this is the spot. This is where they make the run, brereak the pace and they knock it up a little bit again. It's okay. I'm not sure what's going to go on here. And then For the way the fourth quarter unfolded I've never felt Please don't sign to the microphone hank. My body was tinkling. That's all. I was tinkling. I can't like Stressed enough, I don't remember a vibe shift in a series quite like this inside of game because it's not just the game like it's not just the first half and what happened. We also had an entire day where like James Dolan goes on radio and just starts spouting his mouth off talalking shit about San Antonio guaranteeing a championship, getting in a fight with Mam Danni. then Dani fights back with James Dolan They cancel the party again. It felt like the sky was falling For Nicks fans Nick fans also a bunch of scum bags. People are talking about how Nicks fans are a bunch of scum bags Yeah, that's post game. hold on Yeah. Yeah, we'll get to that. Yeah. Cime. Well, I'm saying before Yeah yes. Yeah Everything that could have gone wrong after one single loss went wrong Jordan Woods couldn't get her back in the game. She she did get it in the game game four, which is huge. Everything was like falling apart We have historic run The Kicks go on twelve games in a row. They're the happiest city on earth. They lose one game. All of a sudden, we've got politicians and billionaires and everyone fighting and watch partyies getting canceled and everything sucks. And then it's the greatest game ever greatest NBA finals game ever. It's like crazy I'm still in shock a day later. the first half the only good thing that happened to the Kicks in the first half and I think that's when Wimby got his his flaggrant, right? So there's one, he's got one more and then he gets the sussy, which makes that non flagrgrant that he didn't get from the Brunson shove a couple days ago, that much more impactful. Um, Wimby was just he he lost control a few times He's got a little temper to him. He did get M Jobs Jon or Robinson good. He did get it. Yeah, he got him good, but he also like he loses his he loses control sometimes in games. when he gets like somebody just runs into him. They give him like a small elbow to his side push him off balance a little bit. they like pick on a little in like very small ways, good playoff physicality. And then that builds up for Wimby and he just lets you have it. But and it's so obvious when Wimby lets you have it because the refs call it every single time. He's got like a temper issue, I think. But but it was like I was saying on Wednesday show like Part of me thinks Weby's A doing a decent job of standing up for himself where he's just not letting people push him around because you're a skinny guy and you can get pushed around the physicality and all that stuff. And he's like, no, I'm not going to get pushed around I'm a little I'm a little exhausted on the way the athletic article being like, can you believe Weemby drew a picture in a I didn't read that one. Oh my god. I'm a little I'm a little wembied out for a second. I see a breather. It's going to be nice to have two days in between games. I mean, who knows what he's going to get up to before that game. Well, I just it's more that when Weby plays like that little dog when he's just floating around and taking to like It's not it's not fun to watch. He's so physically imposing just get down there, dude. I your ass in the pain. I like it when he gets mad. I think that like this type of physicality is good, but it does end up costing his team sometimes. Yeah. And yeah, that was the only downside to the first half when everything seemed to go right for the sppurs. Every single thing seemed to go right. And I think losing the game mentally very draining on the spurs. But then to have to go through everything that they did after like They had to just sit in that locker room in silence, just thinking about what just happened to them. And then eggs thrown at Th they had eggs thrown at them on their way out. and when we was th like, ooh, Ileit. And then they got into the some Kish And then he gets into the bus. there's probably still silent in that bus. They go home, think about what they've done, go to the airport, thinkink about what they've done Um Just the aftermath of that is going to be what makes it really tough for them to get over. If they're going to get pissed off in the next couple days or if they're just going to be sad. If they're going to be sad about it then they're fucked. If they're going to get mad, they're still in it because they've got the talent, I think. Do you guys disavow the egg throwing Disavow but great arm Oh, that doesn't sound a disavow. No, I disavow but the fans are scumbags. Like there's part like there is not enough talk about how poorly that they have acted after these games. O one loss and it just fell apart Yeah. You should never pull a prank on anybody by throwing ex at them. That's not cool unless you're like, but it was a unless you're like twel years old it's Halloween A're not all NX fans, but There's been enough. There's been this year. It's not just one isolated event Well it's New York, everybody egg Is that true? Yeah, there's just random people carrying around eggs. Oh they got the city grocery stores that they get away. The Vortegas, they don't have those anywhere else Yeah, only in New York. They only New York can you go and get cereal, eggs and toilet paper And cigarettes. You can't get that anywhere else. Zach, do you have any comment about the fact that just within the last year, IShow spepeed has done several videos where he encourages people to throw exggsit him as he runs around trying to evade them and then acting like it's one big joke. Do you think that maybe Nicks fans saw that? they're like Oh hey, we might like it and think that's a fun video if I throw eggs at him. I think eggs historically are more of a highi jins fun goof Not not so much a malicious act. In this case, it may have been a malicious act. so I'm going to disavow the egg throwing and the egg hitting Windby on the top of the head. If Windby wasn't a human and was a target. I'd say it was a great throw. As Nicks fans are you guys sneaky? I know you're going to game five. so you want to watch the championship. You want to see the trophy in front of you, but is there a small part of you that like silver lining if the Kicks lose game five, at least we get to beat up some more sppurs fans back in New York Off court violence is never the answ Be like that's probably you're probably thinking that a little bit like hey, at least this means we get to fucking punch more random guys in a spurs jersey Disavow disow. Rweet that disavow But you did you did tweet out crime last week I was tu Yeah, I was crime on the hardwood. good play. Yes outside the arena of crime. I'm not sure. Well listen, I'm not we're obviously je like disavowed, but we're obviously like Every fan base has scumbags. I do not think all Ns fans are bad. It'ss I do think that this these are the worst videos of that There's a shitload of people in New York City. but yeah. Yeah. these videos are real bad. Itounds like you were fouling them I'm not. I'm disavowing them. I'm avowing all other Nicks fans who don't I want to talk let's talk about the Ns. I'm more impressed by the Nicks fans that didn't punch a Spurs guy in the face. When we talk about that.' that and also like If you just look at the statistical probability, I mean, we've been talking about throwing snowballs in Santa Cara. I know looks from Pilly. I get it. If you throw if you throw an egg in New York City Last night, chances are if it's going to hit anybody, it's probably going to be Wimby because so much bigger than everybody else. Tue. So that might have been a complete coincidence. Yeah Also Santa Claus is like It's different than we Wendy. Santa Claus did Yeah. And this is where all of Max's anger comes from is he just he wants Pe to stop saying that people from Philly are scumbacks. Well, I would just get pissed off because I keep seeing all these videos. It's like, wow, New York's acting a lot like Philly and these are worse than anything that Philly's ever done What about when Michael Irvin got like paralyzed? And you cheered I didn't There's no there's no that's that sheering is is worse than assaulting a guy and ripping his jery off and giving him a bloody nose What about Yeah on camera? Yeah. What about throwing up onto a small girl in the stance? I don't even know what you're talking Max. I' a Phily fan. Max, you can listen, you can get a bumper or a bruise Mental trauma is way worse. Okay. so Yeah. what about interrupting a podcast and threatening to beat up one of the producers Was that you Mmes? No? Oh, you do that off camera No was big do st He did not He did not disavow you not true. That's actually fake news. Mans fake news, you are fake news All right, there's one person on this show that we've not heard from because they went pretty silent last night U No texts on the group chat. I think he said I'm sick and then also said this is worse than the Ray Allen three which someone aptly pointed out like they're like, hank our team wasn't involved in either of those games. Well that was my point. That was that was that was like that was the worst Sports loss. I don't, the Ray Allen three like that stung so much specifically like probably because it was Ray Allen, like former Celtic playing for the team that I hated the most. So I still think that one was worse and it was like a game, you know, it was it was game six versus game four, but I didn't I lost sleep. I lost a significant amount of sleep because of that game. I was sick about it. Even their their fox like He I think it was in the fourth quarter, maybe late in the third quarter where he just had one of those turnovers where he just threw like he had a He had no one in front of him. And he just passed the ball out of bounds. like it was in between Wendby and one of their guards. He just passed it to no one ball went out of bounds turnover. From that point on, I was watching him my brother were like Darren Fox been bad, bad, bad, bad. And then he proceeded to have like the worst fourth quarter of all time But yeah, I was I I'm sick about it. don't I don't really know what to say. I don't know. I'm not going to fake congratulate them I was not happy for them. I'm not happy for them. I don't want them to wash them when game five in San Antonio. Like I don't know what do you want me to say No I love this. I don't know what you want me to say. I honest as possible. I was I like it felt like they were, you know, the spurs were in complete control. It was obvious like obviously they were not going to stay as hot. They weren't going to score seventy nine points in in the second half. but I think they scored fifteen points like By the time there was five minutes left in the fourth script, it was the entire It was just such a tough watch and just the courts side performative fans and Taylor Swift and all these people going crazy. It was disgusting. It was nothing It was nothing short of disgusting. There was no double fist pumps, no real fan movement No pump picaking a ball. kn the ks. Hank, I do have a question about one thing that you said that you're not happy for them Um But you did say that you want New Yorkers to win something because they've gone through such a long period of losing I didn't say I want them to win something. I just I've always joked about how long it's been since they haven't won something so this would take that sh away Uh, but I mean, the series is over. likeike it it it's over. There's there like you said PFT, there's no way that the sppurs have what it takes to close three more games. I don't think I I said I said that, but yeah They don't have what it takes to close three more games. This series is over It's only a matter of time They could be up three to one ret easy likeike they there're you know, three probably three plays away from being up three to one Darren Fox, the fact that he has a max contract is disgusting He completely choked that game away. We should be talking about Josh Hart. We're not And I'm sick about it. I don't know that's it That's it. All right It's u You're right, we're not talking about. Do you want the opportunity to talk about Josh Hrt? Do you want to live a fancy world Let's pretend that Oh it is what it is. We live lifeife is live We're in reality. Life is live the next one and Josh Harton missing that layup and not boxing out doesn't matter. Are you like when you're watching the game, what point? be like, oh my god This is actually happening I mean, once they got the lead, like once once he missed I mean, he missed the lay up and it was like, oh, there' They're that's going to be it like that was going to, you know push them to complete the comeback And when he missed out I was like, oh, there's a chance Yeah, I honestly thought the sppurs were going to win. likeike I the the not like the missing the lay up and not boxing out. it's like that was huge. likeike that the spurs almost blowing that and still winning the game. like that's going to be kind of a catalyst for them to like if they had won that game, I feel like they could have closed out more games because they kind of felt that like they choked a lead, but they still pulled it out And now they, you know, it's tied. they're going back home. They have home court advantage back. They can win this series and to blow that the way they did and they had to open look like obviously when you watch in sllomo, sllomo makes everything look obvious, but He just didn't time the jump. L like he threw the inbound as Kat was jumping up in the air. Like If you just t the jump when he's coming down, like that that doesn't happen. It was it was everything that Everything bad that could have happened happened. I would do you think we'd be saying if Oji doesn't tip that ball in Whatould do we be like, Hey, Jalen Bronsson, what a terrible shot that was Yeah. I mean, the shot was probably that was probably the plan was to give them a chance for rebound. So I don't I don't think it I mean, it was from deep. like it was a pretty crazy long shot, but I do think Jayen Brunson was like now that Deer and Fox has come over to me. we have we have Yeah Well be four on three on the boards I got I gota chuck this up Now Yeah. and it was a great, I mean, it was a O you got so high up. It was perfectly timed. It was It was the worst kind of destiny Hank, is there a small part of you and I respect the hell out of you being a hater real hatater. admitting it. But is there a small part of you that's like, I just watched all time sports moment and it was just so clouded by hate. I couldn't enjoy it because like I don't really Yes. like I want my guys to be happy, but I also don't really care who wins the NBA finals. I just want good games. So In the moment, I was just watching and being like, this is incredible What I'm watching is incredible. It's not like I was rooting for the Kicks, but I was I was just appreciating how incredible it was No, I was sick about it. I remember like the Ray game I was I was dating a girl who was living in Boston. She was at work and I was at her apartment. like her roommate was home, but she wasn't even watching the game And I was screaming at the TV and I was like lying on the floor after just in pain and misery. And then she came was like, like is what is going on? And that's what it felt like. I was just How did you explain that one to her It just like the The he won the game, Ray Allen hit a three and she was like,h okay. So I' I didn't know you were a Surs fan. Yeah. no I mean, she doesn't she was't even following basketball. She was just like, u getet off the floor, like This is weird. U But yeah, it brought me back to that moment. It was like it's a pit in your stomach like sickness. like Yeah There's no way that just happened. There's no way that just happened And it's not even a Celtics game. likeike I shouldn't feel as bad about this as I do, but I did. One thing that we can all take a little comfort in is yeah, the Spurs have had like almost a series of dynasties. and it looks like they might be on the cusp of maybe another one if Wimby turns into the play where we think he's going to be They've also had Three of the most iconic. Yeah, last minute brereaking soul crunching defeats in the playoffs So there was the Ray Allen shot There was one last night from Oji then the Derek Fisher shot against him after they took the lead on that Tim Duncan fadeaay with what point four seconds left of the game? Listen when you They've had some bad ones. Yeah, when you're good when you're good as Spurs franchise and you're going to be in those moments. But yeah, no it's good point. Yeah A Hank, I'm surprised that you didn't jump on what Me said You the Celtics trained the Kicks You should take credit for it blowing le they didn'tt train it. They didn't train it. The next caused this had an opportunity to kill the Kicks them live. Oh, that's okay, that's that's worse for you. If they lose the Celtics in that second round matchup They blow it up Instead They believed. And then this year, they blew a three one lead as the favorites to win the Javid Chip. against a bad sixixer team Yeah, I mean, we're talking about the NBA finals like that this this this has nothing to do with the Celtics, but if that, you know, if that's that's the root you' if you're one game away, you're going to San Antonio to potentially watch your team win a NBA championship and you're thinking about the Celtics like I win. So you know, we were talking about reality a second ago and when you look at the past it is Prologue and last year, Memes is right that when you lost to the Kicks You gave up your chance to end whatever it was they were trying I mean our best player Tor Tor is Achilles like that that that's huge asteris. What point in the series There was still a couple games left. What was the record in the series Winning Towwards Achilles T one, while we're in one, two Maybe I want to. I don't know. What was it Mames? to one Yeah one or two Um Yeah, that was the hell the night And I'm so happy the boys get to go. I mean, fact that they're going to be in the building with the trophy t What point did you think did that dawn on both of you One hour after the game. Yeah. I just screamed in my apartment. You're like, oh shit Be Game five would have been much different if you don't come back if you get absolutely worked if it's first half, second half exact same N lose by thirty, you're going to game five with This is all falling apart, the sky is falling. I was in bed on the rewatch And they start picking up again and I was like, yeah, this this could be it.' gonna do it. Yeah, you gota rewatch You guys how many rewatches you think you're going to have And side question, will you also rewatch the first half? So I ran it all the way through. So it wass just like Let's see up again see how it goes. Yeah. see if this goes our way again. I mean, the spurs are so good in the first half. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, you you do know that you have to you have to win this series because if you don't, Last night is just not didn't exist. It would maybe even be worse than it would exist, but as a joke. Yeah. Like if you have Taylor Swift and Hay doinging a jig at center Court If you got Tracy Morgan crying and puking and shitting And then crying again and then laughing. Hey That's going to be it's going to be funny to look back on. This is what you should look forward to Ank as a hater There's like This is if they do not win this series game four literally never happened and P is right. It's more of a joke than anything. It's not the best game ever. It's like, how do they lose that series? I won't that won't cross my mind until it's three to three And that's notocking out. You're going to actually it will turn into your favorite game ever. Yeah. if they blow this. Yeah. if feel like remember when you celebrated winning the NBA Championship after game four. If the Surs can get it three three, I will entertain that thought, but Until then Do you think there's a chance to get to three two? Nope You think it's over on Saturday night I hope not Zach and Mames if he' Act whatever. I like I don't care. this series is over Sounds like he's shaking If they're gonna to celebrate he's thinking about it Like You're gonna to be watching the game though and you're gonna be running against the egg. Obviously. Yeah. So it's like, don't even try and say this. No, but like the series is over like I guess whatever D't ye Yeah I was gonna to say like it'd nice for Zach and Mes, but like you but no don't mean didn' even say that No No, no, you can't say that, you don't feel that. Zachy Mames, have you guys thought about what you're going to be wearing to the game Very important I think Polar' sending us some shirts as of a Bing Bon Hanky shirt. wear with the trophy. Makes my tipits pop And it's also going to be like so many Nicks fans there I think it's going be seenty five percent I think it's going to be seventy five percent, memes. There's a lot of K Nicks fans. seventy five percent Cch to clinch the finals. In San Antonio. Yeah, everyone should just head to San Antonio But they get all the Spurs fans have to sell their tickets That's tr I think it would be a solid like twenty five, thirty percent I'll think a little bit more. I take the over on that as well. You think You think I think higher than. I think they're going to flock You guys are They'd have to sell all their tickets I think this isn't this isn't an hour and a half drive. No.s flight to watch watch a closing championship game. There are just so many New Yorkers. There are and they've They don't have championship fatigue. It's not like it's a Saturday. Yeah. It's not like Ohio State football fans traveling every postseason B there's a chance Okay. This is like Indiana, like the long dormant massive fan base. Yeah You haven't had anything to spend your money on in the past, you're going to go to this one All right, you should get Larry O'Brien nipple rings if you win, memes That'd be so sick I'd be so sick. Yeah, thanks again at Tick pick. We got more coming with Tick pick starting in July, but incredible. We're so excited for our boys. Well. Almost all of us are so excited for our boys to go to San Antonio, Max. Are you excited for them? Yeah, I mean, I don't like the Kicks, but like I'm I'm not saying I I was like jumping for joy when when the nexticks won that game. No, I wasn't either. but like It's cool. Like I can acknowledge that it's that it's cool for them, but I can't say that I'm I can acknowledge that Like I bet on the sppurge going into that game yesterday and then I bet on the Kicks Midwave. in the end of the third quarter because I felt like they were coming back. Like for most of the game, I was rooting for the spurs and then I swit and then I bet on the next and I was rooting for the nexts. Like I'm just not really letting it affect me one way or the other. Right. mee neither. Yeah. I'm going like straight reporter mode. Journaliste. I just I enjoy the hell out of the series. I just want more basketball. That's why That's why I will I think in theory I want the spurs to win so I get more basketball But in reality, I think I would rather have Memes and Zach get that moment winning a championship in front of their faces. Well, more basketball and also more sppurs fans getting beat up. Remember me Z more c. Yeah, they wanted that' we go more eggs thrown. Yeah. They want it they both personally requested that. Zach, I me give you the opportunity to make it up. Don't throwggs at Mms and Zach Santone. J donon't do that. That's mean, Hank.ank If you do That's mean if you do Just say like Hank told us not to. And then me and Zack will just bring in a carton eggs on Sunday and not throw a eank mutually assureredl Yeah, declare yourself as someone who's who's hank looyalist who's who's specifically not throwing him eggs at you as you throw an egg at him because of Hank. And if you really do Cage free free range, you know, looks like some some ethically sourced eggs.ot the head. not Yeah. Zach. I'm going to give you an opportunity to try this again pump up speech New York Kicks Saturday Right now, go. Yeahah Gentlemen where one game away For a moment, all of you have worked towards your entire lives The sacrifices you've made The sacrifices your family families have made to get here to the precipice of basketball All those hard evenings All those early mornings The moment you thought you were going to quit They build up to this right here You got to go out there and show why You were built for the moment Not everybody's built for the moment. But today you are One went away. Do it for yourselves. Do for the people you love. Du it of sport that you love. Leto get this win, boys. Nice. Much better. Much, much better I disagree. The crime one was w. Wait. that one was I got pumped. Also Zach, can I just on the like PS? Yeah, director's cut. Yp. Yeah. PS If we don't get this win boys, don't worry More Spurs fans will get their noses cracked. Back to crime only on court. All right, we're gonna Stanley Cup fininal a L little World Cup and then we'll get to our interviews. then we have a bonus preview for Mount Rushmore where we're doing a little st friendly for Mount Rushmore, a preseason Mount Rushmore with Hank's Dad and Fire Fest. before we do that this summer. The cup is taking over the US. and only Draft Kings has you covered every step of the way. 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No, Sunday night Sunday night will be the couple be in the building and PFT Mm The Vegas Golden Knights have a Carter heart problem because he has given up Five straight games he' giving up four goals at a minimum four goals It's a Carter heart problem. I feel like Listen, I'm not a hockey guru. None of us are, but I think this might be the time and it probably was the time before Game five to go to the guy who won you a cup in Aiden Hill Yeah, Carter Harts been pretty bad. And then on the other side U The Kights have a bussy proble Bussy is Bussy's electric He's the bossy of the year. I don't know if he's There's been to pushback calling him a rookie because he's so old But it is is rookie season. He's on fire right now. He was awesome tonight And yeah, it was it was another good hockey game No real late drama. It looked like maybe at the end the the knights might threaten to get within one, but it wasn't a nail biter like the other ones. Yeah. And there was that with that one goal. I think it was goal two by the Hurricanes so nasty. The Hurricanes. I mean, they I've started to like watching them play hockey because they just absolutely stay on top of you. likeike the we've talked to a bunch of our hockey guys and they've said it and like after they've said it and I've been able to watch it more They just give you no time to breathe whatsoever And it's it's fun to watch because you just know they're just going to they come at you in waves and they do not stop We just had a goal. We just had a goal Tchia just scored Oh you guys are ahead of me. Sorry. it might also be VAR, so we'll see Dl robot steps in. My favorite part of Oh, yep The flag is up. I love the World Cup because if a guy scores a goal, everyone just immediately points. U to the ref to be like, Hey, you got to check that I've got I've got a couple of problems with just the the new wave of VAR and soccer. It does feel like You're looking at everything and you can find no one you can't get away with a foul anymore. And I know that it helps the reps get it right ultimately But there's an art just like in any other sport to getting away with stuff. Like if you made every little tiki tack like holding call reviewable in the NFL kind of suck for defensive backs, but And and soccer now it looks like you just can't get away with shit The by the way, all right. so back hockey real quick because then we are going toall little bit Yeah goals off. We're talkking a little bit of World Cup U So the stat is Carter Hard is the first goalie to concede four plus goals in each of the first five games of a Stanley Cup final. You have to you have to go to Aiden Hill You just have to like there's just I don't understand. So Totorell was asked if consider going to Eden Hill in the third period. He said, Oh Christ, that might be the stupidest question I've heard ever heard So maybe they won't go Aiden now I feel like Tortz has heard stupider questions than that. Definitely. That's not that dumb. specially your goalie that's given up four plus goals in five straight games in the Stale Cup fininals That's a That's a reasonable question to at least ask. I would say great question. Yeah, great question. It is u It was good to see Ao kind of get off the schchneide I think he was on what like a five game goal of streak And then George Stahl is just a beast too. And and you're right. Th these These hurricanes are a lot more fun than they have been for the last four years. Yeah Yeah They've they've been awesome watch Yeah and Jordan stalled he u He just keeps on doing. I mean, he's what would we say I think he's thirty seven years old. I'll check that. U the fact that he just every single game. that's so that's that's every single game in the Stanale Cup final. he scored a goal It's insane to watch And ye. yeah, like I don't know If you're a Vegas Golden Kight fan, which we're literally just talking to to Bluntman right now, it hasn't gone well the last two games and it feels like you had the series. you know, if you go even back to to game two and then Ever since essentially game three when they the thirty I know they ended up winning that game the three goals in thirty nine seconds But from that point on, it feels like Oh, Korea just scored. It feels like The game the series has been tilted towards the hurricanes, even though again, they lost that game, but from that point on, they have just been dominant Uh yeah, I'm looking for a flag. Find not flashag Not getting flag. I think the main main difference tonight was the crank Yeah And Mike Commodore Commodore. O boy, our boy, Commy. We need to get him on part of my take. He's probably the funniest person I've ever spoken with He'll just talk for like two hours And it's like every line is a punch line. That dude is the man. When I saw he was on the crank, I knew it might be a A Kess kind of night. Yeah Yeah, he looked like a crazed man on that crank and he We said the series was going to be deced by the crank off and pulling out Commodore in game five was a huge move Cer over T Payne right now If you're looking at advanced analytics. I've always said that. Yeah. Do you think that the knights finish it off? Do you think that after this weekend? We'll have no more finals No. I think I think Stanley Cup stone seven Oh, okay. with or without Carter Heart Net. I think they're going to make a change. I think Trortz was The fact that he said that's the dumbest question he's ever been asked kind of tells me that he's that's some little projecting right there. thinks the lady got protest too much. Yeah, I think u I guess I if you could spinzone it, it was a good move by Torch to answer that way to if if. For some reason, he has to stick with Carter Hart, you didn't just submarine his confidence I don't know how his confidence could be lower, but you didn't make it You didn't personally make it lower. You kept it or status quo Maybe you say it's the dumbest question he's ever heard because of course he's going to take them out. Tue. good point. Yeah like no dud, dude. he's given up a million goals Did you not hear that he's the first goalie to allow five goals and his first St only cu games World Cup real quick. We started the World Cup. Mexico wins the inaugural game of the twenty twenty six World Cup to nothing with Th red cards. Redco Oh This game is crazy right now Watch that PFT which live PFT replay of just how close they they came to scorn right there. U is a corner. It is a corner. Yes. The corner bet has hit I love bedting corners. If anyone If anyone knows What a good corner bet is please start sending me because I will bet every corner Only oververs, but if if you're like, hey, this game's going to have a lot of corners. Just hit me up. I'd appreciate that because there's something about corners because like soccer You know, you're going to get only two or three goals. It feels like You're if you bet the over in the game, you're going to end up with a VAR that fucks you one way or the other corners. You just get corners. You get corners and they keep coming Number five has a throw in like it's a corner kick. Yeah, that was crazy But yees, so the World Cup has started and we're getting ready for USA tonight. And yeah, the three red cards was nuts though. They were playing ten on nine at the end of the South South Africa and Mexico So So in the last World Cup in Qatar Guess how many red cards there were for the entire tournament I'm going guess two because you said it anotherother four. four for the whole tournament and then there were three in the opening match. which I saw Clint Dimpssey saying like They're just they're setting a tone. They're just like, it's like in the preseason when refs like have a point of emphasis that they'd like to get across That's what that game was. Everybody was watching it ree red cards they're like yeah, we're not going to take any shit. They're going to take plenty of shit just, you know, when the game start to mean something. they'll keep the cards in their pocket, but hopefully I guess that their strategy is just like, scare them for the group stage. Yeah. And yeah, I'm a little bit nervous. I'm a little bit nervous going into tomorrow because u If we lose The nerves are just going to swallow us alive. What Absolutely zero excuse. to not making out of this group Um I think I was talking to Titus about this earlier today. I think that if the United States does not make it out of their group, meaning they finish in third are more likely fourth because I think half the third place teams are going to get out. We should just eliminate soccer in the United States We should stop playing soccer. You get against the law. If you see a child with a soccer ball take it away Stab it, deflate it, stab the ball, stab the ball, makeake that clear deflate the ball throw it away, light it on fire It should be illegal to play soccer in the United States if we don't make it out of this group. That's I's been saying And that's how that's how favorable the conditions are in this tournament And if it doesn't happen then that's it. you know what I was about to say we had a good run We had terrible run Let's never do it again Take her ball, go home play real football. That's what I've been saying. I think we are. I think we're going to get out of group stage. I think so too. Yeah. U Okay, anything else. I think I think that's it. We got awesome rest of the show One last thing Yeah, one last thing for the for the World Cup. I did consult our two top football experts Tom Fernelli and Brandon Walker. to get their picks on who can win The World Cup much like they did for college football this year And Tom won that Brandon's teams are Spain, Germany, Portugal Netherlands And then he threw in the United by God states of the by God of America. Okay. And then Tom Punnelli's teams France, England, Brazil Argentina hid' Tom didn't pick Italy Yeah, I was pretty shocked by that too. I think I don't think it's in it. What? What What do you mean Match? No, it was not in it Oh no. Wh not? They're one of the best teams in the world Yeah, they won one recently too Yeah, they're not in it. That's crazy They wouldn't last time though, right Hh? They won the last World Cup you mean. No, they weren't in at that that World Cup either They minute two times in a row Yeah, they they either they either like to win it or they don't like to be in it. Got it. That's the only two outcomes Uh pretty much yeah. Okay. Okay that's crazy Um All right Let's get to the rest of the show we got Spencer Haw who' at game five at MSG. We have Brett Biema both those guests in studio. and we have very special Mount Rushmore with mister Lockwood in studio and Fire Fest Okay, before we get to our good friend long time guest Spencer Hawes in studio Brought you by Rehesus. 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But S cheers randomly, so he's here for a bachelor party in Chicago and I was like we're thinking about Wh who we should have on today U and Spencer was at MSG for game four greatest comeback in NBA finals history. now. Oh God The part I didn't realize, which It kind of hurts because we haven't haven't taped for everyone listening right now we haven' taped the full show yet. We haven't done the full recap of the game I forgot that you were childhood friends with Mitch Johnson. so yeah. How's that going right now? Uh, you know You win you win game five. We got to keep it going. Y Maybe they're too young to know what they've gotten into, but No, it wasn't great. That was not a lot of fun.. Well, it was a lot of fun until it wasn't and God, it was just kind it just kind of kept happening. You're like, all right, they'll stop. it'll stop the bleeding and then Credit to the Nicks, they just don't go away. they've done this all playoffs, but Fuck that one st. Yeah, I can give you a spin zone because I have used it myself. I'm a fan of the Washington commommanders. theirir head coach Dan Quinn always gets discussed with a twenty eight to three. He was good enough to get a twenty eight to three lead in the Super Bowl That's pretty fucking good They scored seventy six points in the first half one and be a f had a twenty nine point lead in this like that's pretty good. That' they saye I checked fucking Twitter this morning. I made that mistake in the first thing that popped up was I comparison. so Yeah to coach they've been up What fifteen points in every game Yeah some point and You know, they're young. they're going to make mistakes But that's a part end one. Yeah. Like I said, they're going to flip it. Maybe they're so young and they don't know the difference and Yeah, game w five goo back to Garden game six, see what happens. It is I do think it's not fair like we've because Weemby has been so good and the sppurs team has been so much fun that We forget that every single guy, this is essentially their first playoffs, including Mitch Johnson, which is like It's almost like we're putting the criticism criticism on them likeike they're a battled team that's been there time and time again and theyre blowing it. It's like This is what happens. this is why it's so hard to win NA finals when you haven't been in the playoffs before It's it's hard to win it in any scenario and I was trying to be optimistic this morning. I was thinking of I'm trying to trying to stay positive and then I had a negative memory. I thought back to my cllippers team that no alsoso blew a pretty sizable advantage in that series twenty fifteen and you know, you You feel it coming when you're on the other side of it and I think we have twenty going in the fourth quarter of of the first game we lost at home And The momentum can shift. by by the game. I mean, obviously by the half in the playoffs. L last night's perfect example. But You know, it You never know how long you're going to have it. You don't want to ever let go of it, but it can shift quickly and it does shift quickly and The Spurs can that get that back, you know, they've started well every game. That hasn't been an issue. You worry about that a lot with younger teams Get off to a good start, ride the home court advantage. Okay. I got I get a question off that, but I have another positive spin zone in a second, but the question off that The you talk about being on the clippers twenty point lead blown in the playoffs. What's said in the huddle when that starts to shift? Is it like because it felt like the sppurs for a minute there had figured out like, hey We're not making any shots. We got to attack the basket They're getting the free throw line a little bit. It felt like they settled it in there. And then you have the the Carliny Towns three, which was insane You have, you know, like all these things happen And it just like it what happened in the second half and maybe you can tell me I I'm wrong, but it felt like they just started settling a little too much for the three pointers and for like Weby not going inside. It's like sometimes you just got to barrel your way inside and just get to the free throw. Well in that fourth quarter, they were in the bonus, I think with eightight or nine minutes. you know L you have to take advantage of that But it's You know Quick threes I think were' what what really killed them down the stretch in that second half. They shot sixty some percent the first half. you kind of know, even when it's rolling, you know that's water is going to find its level. But I think You know, some of those quick shots and get a rebound Th' open. Yes, that's the best time to shoot a statistically the best time to shoot a three, but time and score and They're learning the hard way. Yeah. Yeah. there was that one sequence that was like miss threeer three offenseive rebound. Yeah miss three offense rebound, miss three, defense rebound. Yeah. And Yeahah, you're right. like thelot, you need to be aware that each possession is actually to a certain extent worth points. And every ten seconds you run off, you know, deeper and you get a reset, you run off ten seconds. that all adds up to them. That's how you run the clock out and concurrently I swear when the Kicks get an offensive rebound, which they're incredible at It's like they convert it every time. Yeah I can remember one up top of my head in the series where they missed it, but like they just do an incredible job of making teams pay when they give up the offensive rebounds and that's one of the things they're best at. Yeah. So as a big man, I want to hear your perspective on Wimby because we debated this on last year, whether or not Windby was a dirty player Because he's starting to like the words getting tossed around a little bit now He plays with an edge He's angry sometimes, but what I saw over the last few games is I think Plers are starting to realize that he does he's got a temper And he's young and he doesn't necessarily know how to control that They'll just kind of like nudge them around Give them a little elbows, you know, just beat them up a little bit. knownowing that if you do it to him He will eventually snap big way and it's godamn it's easy to catch Wimby when he like pushes somebody because he's got the all seam arms that go flying. It's hard to control those things. It's hard to control those things. Yeah. So they'll know that he'll like he'll flip out if you just kind of fuck with them enough Um, is that do you think that that's something about like Wimby just being young? Or is it is it more than that? I think that's part of it. I don't think he's a dirty player. I think I personally I love the elbow in the Minnesota series. I think everybody's got a breaking point U, it It kind of reminds me when I was a kid and you're I will, you know, you're so much bigger than the other kids and You know, they weren't hanging on me like that by the time I got to the NBA. but You just they beach you up. they're hanging on you, They're grabing you and you just you kind of get your breaking point. And I think as he gets older as he matures, he'll learn how to channel that better. but I read They're doing a lot of shit to him too. And I think a lot of that gets missed You always It's like getting in a fight at school. They always catch the first person that retaliates. He does have some long ass arms those always out of mind of their own. That was my other spin zone with Wemby I do think in game four you could see it and it's happened a bunch in these playoffs when it's only one one day off in between. He does kind of run out of gas and that is like the Nicks are trying to run him. That's what they you can't really beat. I think we found like trying to beat him up is not really working. It's you got to run him to the point where he gets gassed and that's when he starts to float out and become like a guard and not a seven five freak Now the rest of the series, you got two days in between each game So he might have his gas and when he has it, it's like He's so dominant. You can see it almost instantly when he comes out and he has that that full tank He's got kind of a pp that's becoming pretty recognizable and It's instant. it's usually like game will start and he'll be like lob at the rim. Well, it's R imparts his will so much early And then, you know, I think that's a good point. He's he's going to have plenty of time to fill up the gas tank and Hey You can kind of see it when he shoots. when he's on balance and his momentum is going towards the hoop It's either a make or it's the back rim, but it's I mean, he's he's too good of a shooter to sometimes have the misses that he does. but when he gets tired and he starts kind of drifting sideways or backwards, it's like Aecdotally, it seems like not many if any of those ones go in R And That usually speaks to being tired and I mean, look None of these guys have played this much basketball in any of their lives this deep in the season. att least the guys for the spurs that that are still playing at this point Right. outside of mayaybe corornette. so It's new to all of them and They got to really take advantage of the restst in between between game days because They do have that advantage of of being the young team and have, you know, having the young legs. Yeah. When did you have the moment last night where you just kind of looked around and you're like, oh shit The Oh fuck moment. It wasn't. It wasn't when they took the lead Iike I think after that after Josh Hart missed the lamp. Yeah and then the sequence after that. I think that was like if we can't Like the garden just went. I mean, it had been fucking crazy. Yeah. wasas that the loudest you ever heard of a place Aob Yeah it had to be close. I mean, it was tough because it The first I don't know, thirty six minutes of baskball You know they were they were going early. They were talking shit and I was talking my shit and then I kind of had to start curtailing that a little bit. Yeah. But no, incredible atmosphere But yeah, that after that after he smoked that layup and then the sequence after that, I was like Damnit. this is this is just you get that feeling where whether you'd been up twenty how many points or not, you're like They're at home. now Brunson's got it in his hands. Alvarado run around making fucking double tural layabs and shs like Oh boy. Yeah, the opposite of that moment where you could sense like the the garden crowd kindind of allowed themselves to be a little curious. They were like, huh, what's going on? That's a great That's actually a great description. Yeah. That was when I think it was a Josh Hart three. from the top Yeah, right? Yeah. and I think might have was that off of a rebound as well. I shot well. and it was made three like Yeah this three it cut the lead, I believe to sixteen Yeah, which is crazy. likeike they were you're like, Oh, that might be but that wereteen. It was the nineteen sixteen like like Yeah just going back and forth but ye, but you get You get it up Depending on the league you get under that threshold and now all of a sudden The rim gets smaller but will start tightening up, you know, it's like that That's the point where you know like that's why coaches always say, all right, if we just cut it to ten by half. we can cut it to ten cut it to eight by going into the fourth That's when you know that human nature gets at you and it just You just tighten up. It was I think, I think what you were talking about PFT. I think the moment was right at the start of the fourth when it was. I think this fourth started was a fifteen point spurs lead and it might have gone to like eighteen or nineteen you're like, all right, this is over. Yeah And then they got it back. And they're like, wait a it was like about n minutes left. You're like It might have been. Yeah. Yeah, you're right.'urious.' like honest. It was a sixteen point l and they're like I don't want to say anything, but let'say attention now. Yeah. Oh and that it was quick after that because they were After that, it was, I mean, we weren't until the third quarter like I expect to be standing the whole time That's what my buddy that went to game one told me Eb game. Sorry, game three, he's like, you're gonna to be up the. I'm like, fucking great. sounds awesome. And It wasn't really until that point that it's just like the collective All rise Yeah. I've in church or something. I know that you have a deep love for Cameron and I've. I've seen him all over like some of the sports channels talkking ball. You had a cowboy had on first take the other day. He did. Yeah. I saw that. What was What was the Wut Tang Klan concert like at halftime Honestly, I was out getting a beer. D didnn't I didn't hear any of the ones I was hoping for in the background. They did their new stuff. It's like j out this new shit dropping soon. It's like now man. comeome on, Ray Juan, play the hits. He only got ten minutes. That is true. I guess I don't know got caught up in the beer line. Did you ever tell the story? You had like a dip set room I did. it's now my nursery. No no way. So what was on the wall in the dip set room back now the nursery? It wasn't notothing on the wall. I had a couple pillows, a shower curtain and then Dve cover I love that. I love that's where the baby's at. And My wife got rid of that pretty quickly when she moved in. Yeah. What All right, so Let's go positive memories. You've been following the spurs. you've been going to a bunch of games How awesome was it? be The former Sonics now Thunder. in OKC to watch your childhood friend who's from Seattle take down that franchise in game seven because you were there, right? It was it was the fucking greatest. like one of my sports moments, playing fan. I mean Everything's kind of been last minute. Buddy and I flew down there. We're like, fuck it, we got to go L, shout out my wife, Hannah because she's been awesome. She's she's pregnant right now at home and she's been She's like, go you gott to go. you know, go support your friend So it kind of came together quickly. We didn't book in the hotel room on the flight kind of thing and I mean I hate that fucking place I hate that fucking I hate that team. I hate that city Mm I have a great respect for him and I've met friends in the front office, but It's like they they did something. they brainwashed the fans down there. L we had multiple people telling us o Why do you guys vote to let to team leagy Wh why do you want to keep your team? They likeike they spun this fucking narrative hates sps And like even after after they win this sevenenty year old woman's in front of me walking out talking shit to us And It's the same thing. Why do you guys want your team to leave Oh God. watchatch fucking Sonic skate. Yeah. It's like what a guy tells like his new wife, H iss why I got divorced and then they meet and then they start talking and they're like, oh shit, wait. No, he's not such a great guy. Yeah. you should go on a mean Girl podcast and talk about it there. like Yeah right No, but it was that was pretty it was a pretty special. And for me, I mean, bitch is his dad was a John John Johnson' Sonic champion. like Yeah, it's Yeah it's in in the bloodline. Yeah. What did you have any conversation with Mitch about D you give a heads up that the titties were behind him? broadcast I think he's aware at this point. Its he's been a quite something to see every time. They gave him a lot of camera time in that series. Yeah. And then it was like someone, someone higher up must have made a call because all of a sudden you weren't getting those same those same for the MBA finals we prepared Mike Green for it are the son is going to come back I hope so. I just within the last week, the Krakking ownership group that sounds like they're getting ready to put the bid in for the expansion added a pretty pretty flush woman Melinda Gates to their crew. So think I think They got their whale now and Everythings in place. They got a great arena. The fans are ready and We're hoping, but ye we're not going to get too excited. We've been fooled too many times So Seattle deserves it. byy the way, congratulations on the super Bowl Thank you. Yeah. That was that was an incredible run. Sam Darnold, the guy, the man. Yeah Yeah elite. It's been a great sports. you. you've been at the forefront of bringing the Sonics back. and I do think that we're closer than ever. The only thing I could see standing the way would be like if they say I have Vegas has to get their team first. I hope they don't do that. That'd be some pretty bad by the marketing department if they let that happen. Yeah. I agree with that. I don't know that that's I don't think that brand equity with any of the fans there. Do you if the Sonics come back or when the Sonics come back, I should say Do you think there's a chance maybe get a tenend day Tireonic. Yeah That'd be pretty cool. That would be cool. D you get back how many minutes could you give team right now. the nets The nets good twelve to fifteen. Okay. I still en I still play a little bit. Yeah. We are we're actively looking into the free agent market right now for a backup big man. in Washington. I should preface that by saying as a Wizard stakeholder Wed be. I told you earlier I'm alwaysiz curious. Yeah I like what they're doing down there. You should be. You should be. And I think as a season ticket holder, I think that entitles me to make one person al move I think that's like the extra thing that they tossed in for me So I would I would like to get you a try out for the whiz Give me some time to get in shape. Okay yeah.. Also congratulations on I haven't seen you in a couple of years. Congratulations on being in a real conference now in college sports So that's been a tough transition. Wellelc for the bigig ten. Yeah. We're going to be good this year Now now our quarterback figured out he couldn't Yeah but the mads were so bad I beat you So fortunately I did not watch that game. I was playing in a golf tournament. Oh, that's interesting. And I sounds like I didn't miss much. No was better than I didn't. Yeah. it sounded like just a sh. I don't think we completed we completed like one pass or something. Yeah I don't They were telling. We didn't get past midfield.. We had a great first quarter against Ohio state last year That's true. That's really good for a squortter. Yeah We I mean, listen that stadium is one of my favorite stadiums to watch a game at because the angles so high and if you can feel it rock I love something about college football and you just see Husky stadium you're like, Yeahah, this is sick. Yeah. I mean, I grew up like ear muffs going. It's my favorite, like If you said you get one sporting event one place, that's that's it. Yeah. Yeah it's pretty great. Yeah. Are you going to go to any World Cup games Yes, I got tickets as of now, I got tickets for Bosnia Egypt maybe And then of lost when those teams get to you. No, no, what a classic. actually no classic Rribberary. We're talking earlier. you got the pride match Yeah, that' Egypt. Yeah. We'll see how that goes. And then I got a round to thirty two in July Nice. So that could be interesting. Nice. That's gonna be fun. All right so my last question, roowback question RHOBacK. com promo code take twenty percent off your first purchase Qzips P polos, hoodies joggers, shorts, Robot dot com promo c takeake. I will have Zach ask a question, but I have a question for you. For the back to the sppurs What is said now after that Like is it What how do you get off the mat? Because I do think The craziest part about this series is I actually am now I went in this series being like You know, the Nicks are better, the spurs aren't ready I think the Spurs are better, but they're not ready because you see game two and game four Those are games that like a seasoned vet team closes and finishes It doesn't have those errors So what do you say to try to like because I still think the Spurs could be in this like they win game five, you never know. They I mean another good start, but that hasn't been a problem u that in any of the games a series forum. And I think You got to come beat the shit out of him at home And and send a message that you found something, you've made an adjustment. You got something that you're going to stick with as it goes along G to game six in the garden. you've already proven you can win there And you've also proven you can lose this like Well, not really badly. just in heartbreaking fashion. a one point game. I horrific fashion. the goodness is I don't think get the loss proven both. The losses can't get anymore heartbreaking Well, you lose the one that loses the series. That's more heartbreaking. But ye. I still think that even if that does happen, you point back to to last night and you're like, that's the one that that was pretty fucking brutal. But you know what? a good team We'll learn from that and a good team will use that and actually get a lot better. Oh, absolutely. and the I mean, they've been doing it. they've been resilient all playoffs and they put themselves in positions in earlier rounds and Yeah, look at the Oklahoma City series. they won the game that they needed to at home and then they went in there and took down the champps. So proven they can do it. now it's Do you still believe? Oh, I believe. You believe fully? Spurs in seven. Spurs and seven. And Zach is a he's a K Nicks fan Yeah. He's going to game five Zach G first throat Zack I mean we get pre headphones. Spenser pron headphones ye Sorrys Yeah Rusty boys. Zach, you got this What' going on?in? How you I've been better, Zach. How are you? full transparency. Hving a great day, Sencer. That you are I appreciate your time today. I was curious With the way the this Purse team, I know it's a young team But I mean, twenty nine points in a playoff game kind of not be able to close that deal you At the end of the season, if it doesn't go the way you guys wanted it to go or the spurs wanted to go, I apologize Do you think about me moving around some guys or do you stick with the who you got? Like do you is there any thought to maybe like they couldn't do it Got some It's tricky because I mean, it's everyone say like this is the worst the spurs are ever going to be this their floor. They're going to keep getting better and I don't know. I'm not a front office guy. That's I think They clearly have every piece to be able to compete and I think in a year of growth it's a tough one because I don't have a straight answer for you. I I think There's areas where they need to get better. They need to get bigger, they need to get more rebounding U, I think Carter Bryant is is going to be that guy. I don't know if that's by next season or not, but There's definitely things I need to address I don't know whether they have it internally or not, but Um You better get this one Got you think maybe gota get this one? I I think the league the Nick certainly, I think the rest of the league it's going to be you know, if The bigig fella keeps going how he's going. It could be could get a little scary. Yeah. if you were to take one part of your game and give it to Wimby. making the total package, what would that be? Ah A fifteen foot post up Face up, jab Jump shot I like that I think we were talking I think Dirk Maybe less monks this sum are more dirk. Oh Yeah I mean, I could see him doing that. or do the monks too is Maybe the monks just keep with the controlling the emotional maturity Yeah, I mean I think the monk thing we looked at that and we're like, o, this guy' about to unlock something that no one's ever seen in terms of just like tapping into the weird The third eyes Yeah. It's like when Uma Thurman goes away and kill Bill and then comes back right kills Rpp kills everybody, right? And with Wimby, I don't know, we were discussing this. Do you think Wimby is too French or do you think he's not French enough I don't see, I don't think he's that French. I think he's got I think he's got a lot of prick in him, which in the best possible way. Yeah like competitor. Yeah. Yeah. and I love that about him And that's why I want him to be able to like channel that at's he's not your traditional Western European basketball player. He plays more like a guy from the Balkans. Yeah. That's a good point Uh Memes, do you have any questions for Spencer Me' also Nick fan. This is me mean what do fucking piling off.ll I'll ask a friendly one Where's the best place pick up big old women in San Antonio Apparently behind the Spurs bench. Now I take me I' just looking for bigger The riverwalk. Okay. Get on the river walk Yeah, the boys. I mean, listen, they're going game five The LOB is going to be in the building They've got all their plans set It's going to be something That is going to be rockking. I hope they do the Fiesta colors You like those? I love that shit. It looks gorgeous. gott go they got to go all Black out funeral Black out. Yeah, but then if you lose you wear black to your own funeral. Yeah, true. But that's okay. Then it just becomes like goth. like everyone's sad That shit was kind of over. Yeah. No I like I like the fiest in colors. it's just They don't strike me, they don't strike the fear of God in your opponent. Yeah. That's true. You kind of get a little like Oh we're at a little party. kind of fun. Yeah. I like it. Have you haveave you hung out with the team at all? Have you been around the team? Yeah, I mean this last last few weeks and like There's Oh Link, I remember you graduated with my sister Plumley was my tenant in California.. The old guys I know know, the young guys are. Have you seen Steph Castle smile That's a. man, I don't think so. That's what I love about him. His dad smiles all the time. Yeah I see his dad in the last couple of games. He's the man. He's such He's it This is probably going to be a wrong comp and people be like, this stupid. he's kind of like a mini Jimmy Butler right now. like he's getting to that point like just so good defensively gets to his spots Yeah, I He's got some D Wade. Yeah, a little bit of that too. I love his game. Yeah. defensively. He's just like that's that's why Brunson is not and I know he scored thirty six on game four, but like his shooting numbers haven't been great Steph Castle's picking him up fucking eighty feet from the basket. I don't know that there's another guy in the league that has a combination of the size that he has and the foot speed, the ability to be able to like beat guys to the spot take the hit in the chest and have it Now he does get a little overzealous with And Foul feels froggy and he reaches from time to time, but I mean, that's an incredible to have an advantage to have as an onball defender. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. All right, Spencer, you're the best long time one of our first guys ever on the show. So we appreciate your support. You know, we celebrated ten years, but seriously like conratulations You're one of those guys been ten guys. But you were in the NBA you're like, hey, I like these guys. It was that that meant a lot to us. So it means, you know You've always been a friend, so appreciate it. Cheers to the first ten and Many more. Yes. Thanks, Spencer. Thanks Ram Spencer Haz is brought to by Jose Cuervo when Cuervo enters every moment just gets better. 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Okay, we now welcome on a very, very, very, very special guest, recurring guest Head football coach of The Illinois fighting align ni. It is Brett Bilama in studio Who's now, I think this is your third or fourth time coming on. I think it's three or four It's kind of crazy that we've we just become legitimate friends through everything all of our history and like I even this past year I met your wife who we had the back and forth with and we've become friends. So it's great to have you here. It's great to talk football. Yeah. evenven though we're I think we're probably like ninety days out, it's still good to talk some football. Do you feel it coming? ninety three days out. O opener Okay But we open up on a Thursday. so We're a little ahead everybody else but yeah ninety three days out. Yeah. And you look great. You got the Hawaiian shirt on. Why you dress like this today? You know, I think two things. First, I want to come on and be comfortable, right? So I kind of bring out my Andy Reed in herself with a with with a Hawaiian shirt but also just u This is a little Tommy look. Tommy I'm a look. Y. We're in Nike school, but I' like to wera up the Tommy every once a while. I like it. It's a great looking shirt. And no spring football game for you guys, right? We didn't But you know, I was going to pitch two things to you guys, right? Like first The well being of Illinois football but I know you're into buying big things. We are putting in the largest video board in all of the world. the United States, not just college football. The biggest TV biget TV on the planet.. So our old one is for sale. How big is that one? It's big. I don't think would fit in your gym But maybe like a section of it. On the roof, maybe. Listen, we could fit I just bought some goal posts. I heard that. Yeah yeah. so h, interesteresting. scoreboard. I mean, who has a scoreboard big is this scorebard? Be I feel like this happens every year we This one's huge. So we have a a huge Larry Geese We also have the Geese School of Business, which is a big school of Illinois. He also is Larry Geeese Memorial Stadium now and he afforded us a neighborhood of one hundred fifty two hundred million and I think a good portion of that is going to this new scoreboardV first They actually recommended that we have several practices where our The scoreboard is playing because I think it's kind of the whole Cowboys big jumbo truck like you need to look at it. Yeah used to it. So so where is the new jumbo truck going to be located? Is it going to be like a sideline or in zone or you know, kind of a cool setup I know you guys have been there, but like so U, the Baskball arena is across the street from us. And then you come into our sediment is right in the middle of those two So it's really cool when you're coming down the main road into Champagne. this thing is going up. I mean, just the framework is there right now. It's like Ginormous. It's just absolutely ridiculous. Okay, well, I'm interested in maybe a piece of the old one. The old one would be awesome. Yeah. I like that. Yeah. electronics, you might want to hit them up. Yeah I can't believe they can sell it to anybody. Well, yeah, so what are they gonna to do it? That's what I'm saying This office Yeah, this office I saw you bought the there was some banner you bought the other day. I'm like Yeah, the flor state the coach ising that. Yeah ye Yeah, you got to Dude, you need a scoreboard. Yeah, you got to actually go piss in the Bill's trough. I got the buuffalo Bills trough Yeah, you're going to do that and sign the wall. All right, what was the second thing? Well just the overall goodwill of Illinois football, I think would be the big thing. Yeah. see here's where our friendship has to start because like we are friends, but also you you pushed it a little too much because I But didn't I now give you great college memories? You gave me great college memories. But then I had I had the thing that I said a couple of months ago where I was like, hey, no one from Wisconsins reached out since then Really good conversations, G some big stuff coming with Wisconsin NIL. The very first text after the show went live was Cach Bilama being like, Hey so you know your money's good here. And I was like, please don't do this. Yeah I'm glad they responded. Yeah, you were doing a goodob. I mean, listen, you're networking. Yeah you know, after We're not going to mention names or teams, but there's a certain partial employee that was tied into Michigan and they took one of my guys. Yeah. Yeah for a check, right? And. I don't know if he's an employee. He owns the company, but yeah ye Yeah, it's partially him. It's partially Larry Ell just who contributes money. We don't know who we're talking about right now Could be anyone. anybodyter. Have you paid attention to the bill that's about to go through Congress right now? Be we just talked to a senator the other day and he kind of explained everything And it seems like they've got it's a bipartisan deal. Yeah. So it's not going to be like left wing versus right wing or anything like that. But they've been setting this up with the help of, I guess, a lot of football coaches.. And so what are your thoughts on the bill that that's going through and how it's supposed to like make things even? One of the cool things I'm also on the AFCA, which American foootball Coaches Association So we have actually hired lobbyists that work with Washington on certain things. So We've been a privy to this quite a bit and Um Bill that you mentioned, there's a lot of really good things in it, but there's some things also that kind of go contradicting to what we're trying to get accomplish. So like anything probably, there's some good and some bad. I think anything that could help us get some Coe football's at a place. I'm sure, as you guys know, you love the game. It's at an unprecedented high. It's absolutely awesome playlers are getting paid peopleeople are watching us more than ever. The atmosphere that we're at, whether we're going to go to twelve, sixteen, twenty four, whatever it is I think it's all positive. U But there are some things that we just got to get in line. like the spending that's going on u some of the transfer rules, like there's just some craziness that goes on right now that that The NFL has some three good things that go on for them. They have the draft They have a salary cap and they have a scheduling that rotates every year based on your performance Those are three really good things that have made the NFL what it is. And I think the more we pay attention to that And college football, I think the better we would be as well. Yeah. Yeah. And so do you guys have a new defense that you're putting in this year? We did. you' defensive guy. so yeah. My man, Johnny Newton had three sacks, right?'s going to be an unbelievable's a one man rereg. He's phenomenal. shouldhould have been a first roundounder, you know, he broke his foot in combine preps. so that's what pushed him to the second round. But He's a phenal player and his little brothererss on our team as well. So I would say that When I entered the league six years ago, I was going in my six year Illinois We were running a defense that really only one or two other teams played in the whole league Last year at the end of the year, we were playing a defense that thirteen other teams played u in an eighteen man league. So I really Notre Dame came in and grabbed my defense coordinator and with that the chance to move and transition to a new defense was there and that's why we brought in this three thirty five, which is a really a unique scheme, V very unique preparation. We're the only team in our league running it, really one of the few in college football for us is going to be very unique and different and has main driving source. Yeah that's why you guys don't want to do a spring game. You don't want to put that on tape. Well, it's because big cat's going gonna toy a scoreboard. We had we' putting this scoreboard where there's like twenty people in the end zone every day watching practice. So we literally couldn't run the run run a spring dri. That' exciting stuff though. Yeah. I heard also you said you were talking about college football and like the changes everything. you're down for thirty two teams? No Bad reporting. Okay. well I saw I saw the headline thirty two I saw that you wanted sixty fourteen. Yeah No, what I said was, I think it was an on three interview and I said Hey, I would love to have as many teams enter the coegeball playoff as humanly possible. I'm not saying thirty two That'sladed it Exactly. twenty four. I think twenty twenty four. Be here's two reasons. Everybody wants to get their, you know, fannies in a bunch about like what What's going on. I think everybody has to understand like There is no time in college football, in my opinion where the sixteenth team or the eighteenth team in the country could possibly win it all And you look at last year, like Miami got in really the last seed And they were in a national championship game and could have won it, right? And I just think with with NIL with revenue share, with a transfer portal, teams can literally lookook at Indiana Yeah. two years after a guy takes over, they win a national championship walking away with it. So I think the more you can include and then I would also argue You know, the the Illinois Wisconsin game and week ten. When maybe not everybody's paying attention, but we both are at eight wins. We need to get to nine and to get to ten. That game is much more important now than ever before And I think it would actually enhance the back half of the schedule and viewership in entertainment value than ever before. So I think the numbers twenty four. Tony Petiti, I think our commissioner is He's five steps ahead of everybody else. and I just think he has seen a vision of this and I think it would be a really good thing. I don't love the idea of playoff expansion passw where it is, But if you do it, I feel like you would have to give maybe the top eight seeds a buy Yeah to get some competitive games in the first, right. And then I think two things to this point If you have a certain ranking, right in the top, I believe it's actually top eight. you would get guaranteed the second game would be a playoff game at home. Yep. I like that. which Now you nobody's going to sit a quarterback or a a running back knowing that you could have your first two games, one be a buy and the other one be a home game. L You're going to do everything you can right to have a playoff and play a home game. C you imagine Camp Randle in the third week of December? A. It it's six, right? Like it's I think, you know, the big picture thinking what we're struggling with and I love everybody's opinion and you guys have interviewed quite a few of them, like They all want to live in twenty ten Mhm It's twenty twenty six for a reason. Yeah. It's a different world. The last three years have changed revenue share, the transfer portal, teeams can't stockpile kids anymore, right? Like I have forty eight I have one hundred and ten players. forty eight percent of my rosters is new this year. It'srazy It's insane when I was at WhisCco, we would have maybe twenty, twenty five freshmen come in. that would be the only transition And they wouldn't play. Yeah. M of them And now we got fifty five guys Yeah that are new. That's nuts. Ands it's young guys and his's fifth year. I got a guy Jake Renfro who played two years in Cincinnati For Luke and then played two years at Wisconsin and now he's on my roster. Right Crazy is that? Yeah, that is. And he's a multiyar starter. right. So it's just kind of crazy the world we're living in. Now, the expansion is anything to do with the fact that you guys finished right around twenty four, twenty five last year and the year before like sixteen Do anything do with it? Probably factors into it but I've only been there five years. Okay Right. So I think the best is yet to come So I do I kind of just go back to Every year, even two years ago we beat South Carolina in a bowl game. Everybody said South Carolina should have been in a playoff two years ago No, it was a tight bowl game. We had to manage the clock right and do the right things, but If you give me two weeks to pray, I'll get anybody. Like I really believe that, right? Like if you can get healthy, get where you need to be and you have the right quarterback, you have the right scheme, you have the right personality. Anybody can anybody on any given Saturday, especially if you haven't played before Now I noticed too in talking about that, you said, you know, the guy went to Indiana and won it in two years. You didn't say his name Yeah I get all the Pure in the world. I think you know, so I think one of I really like. I do like because Here's what I do like. It's funny in our league right? We got eighteen teams, right lot of different personalities in that room You know, the guy I'm probably closest to, it sounds crazy like old A lot of people are going say like Wh' he very similar to, but like I really enjoy, you know, I played in C coacha, Iowa, right? So Yeahah. I really Ia tattoo. Yeah. He's an unbelievable coach, an unbelievable guy right where it's at. But Signeti, the one thing that he did is he has talked the talk Yeah from the day he's walked it. and I like people that represent who they are every day. I think the greatest thing you can bring in an organization is consistency and communication And that guy has been the same guy every day and he communicates very, very well, right? And I think that's a part that I really respect u in what he does and obviously nobody can Nobody can even question what he did this year' just truly is special. Yeah. your game last year against Indiana. What happened at the very start? I know that the score got out of hand at the end, but like the first quarter, Indiana was famous for just having just they would just get to you know, incredible leads really early in the game. So how did that game start? Well, it started off very bad for us. So we kind of exchange f and then we went to line up and punt and they blocked our punt for a touchdown. So that started. But then we threw a touchdown right away. We had a big strag loop hit a big pass. and so it's kind of a back and forth game in that first quarter But then second quarter on it just turned into a landslide. I told my coaches on Wednesday actually Tuesday after our first practice On Tuesday afternoon, I said, hey, these coordinators, in my opinion eighteen years or seventeen years at that point of being in this business. they know what you're going to do before you know what you're going to do. I think those two guys offensively and defense are the best I've ever seen in all the couge football. J you Exactly. And they did it at JMU. They've been together a long time They don't leave I think for a reason, right? They like what they're being told, how they're being told what to do. and And the guy is leading them. So eventually they'll become head coaches, but I think their coordinators are extremely special. Have have you had to make any adjustments or have you taken anything from what Indiana has been able to do? Absolutely. we compete against them I swear There was a tight end a year ago that transferred from Wisconsin And he was just kind of a a role player there, but he had actually been to my youth camp when I was a coach there. His dad sent me a picture of him when he was in fourth grade and I try to get in on him and and what that text look like?'s like He looks like he can play for you coach. Oh. Well, so I remember because he actually had I believe you might have had another team's jersey on at my youth campps you weren't going to go and it was kind of I remembered it when It popped in my head, right? And the dad sent it to me and We tryed to get down and we offered him a little bit of money, but the number he got offered there was quite a bit more and he got drafted, I believe in the fourth round this year, right? They They have really done a good job in my opinion. So the Oine coach chair Bob Bostad was my O line co. when I was at Wisconsin They've built the the program from from the foundation level. Like noobbody goes in and says, Hey, look at this second story bathroom I got or this, you know, they always build on the foundation. and that's what what Indiana did they built on the foundation of O line and D line play and they obviously built around it and that's what made them up there. And it's nice to see that like the big ten, you know, I'm not like a conference over everything guy. I love question day was awesome. Yeah Yeah, while he Listen Lane let's talk about that. Lane's kind of living in the past a little bit where it's like they keep talking about How Oh, the SEC is so much stronger, it's so much stronger Big ten, yeah, I get it. eighteen teams. There's a couple teams at the bottom that have not been great. Wisconsin being one of them. there's some really good teams in the bigig ten. and I feel like It has evened out a lot more and you can see it with Who's winning the national titles? I think perspective is everything, right? And I'm sitting here as a fifty six year old dude, and I like I know what I've learned in my fifty five years on this earth, right? New Year fifty six is based off of what I've learned. And I remember I was at Wisconsin We were going back if you remember when they were dividing the teams into leaders and leegends. Oh yeah. I I have a sweatshirt that is leaders and legends. It's just no, it's just the legends. It's just a map of the Big ten West because I miss those days. So we're sitting in a bigig ten meeting and I'm pissed because a twenty five year study showed that the two winning his teams in the big tenand at that point. was Ohio state and Wisconsin But all they want to do is align Ohio state Michigan, Penn st State and Nebraska. And I'm pissed I'll be grabbing, he's like dude Don't worry about it. You can't change fifty years of living Right. You can't change fifty years of history or a hundred years of history Those are the four teams that have won national Championships. Everybody thinks they're the teams evenven though we've won more than everybody else, you can't change people's opinions. I think that carries into where we are today. It's it's hard for people, even for me at Illinois. of the most successful years in Illinois football history, right? Over a one hundred. We played Michigan two years ago, beat them on our turve of two ranked teams. It was a hundred year anniversary game It's hard for people to grasp that that happened. Yeah. So I think it's hard for people to When people talk about the mid level, the lower level, like We beat South Carolina last year. We beat Tennessee this year. Tennessee two you select the season is in the middle of like national championship talk. Yeah. And we beat him in a music city bowl, but no one wants to remember that right? So It's going to slowly take time But eventually common sense takes reality and I think that'll happen. Yeah, I mean, The best case for this was the Rose Bowl this year where we were joking before the game. We all the whole gambling cave bet on Indiana because we're like If they just reverse the the helmets here Like Alabama's just getting so much credit for being Alabama Nick Sab Alabama. That's not what they are anymore in Indiana is being treated like Indiana Vld, then that's not what they are. No. And it's just yeah, the perception it's hard for people to change what they've learned. Yeah mean we all go up to a red light and stop Like if we fliip the rules. I like that. Yeah. And today what if we dream if we just stop stopping. You know, bad we would Chicago traveled me Oh yeah. Well no, but I wouldn't get any of the red light camera. I mean, I pay so much money the city of Chicago for How red like way they get you here is crazy. It's not not because's it's an important cultural thing in Chicago to like three cars make that left after it turns red. And then if you if you're the third car, you get that ticket every time I'm not even running red lights. I'm just getting like you know, the little end of my cars You guys have some anger issues. Listen, you should see. it's not a very amount of tickets I get it. It's crazy. It's nuts. It's hard to change the way people think. A couple of things from that lane interview I want to get your opinion on from the bigig ten perspective, is there a bigig ten coaches group chat U You guys have a text thread. There probably is I know there probably is, but there's also kind of all these little S chastu. like so PJ Flck, right? So PJ and I are really close. Like he'll hit me up with a roll of boat and I'm like, you know, it's off, right?ike I don't need to hear that. but I love PJ because he is who he is every day. Yeah, Right? Like he's a true genuine dude But I would say there's more You know, I was in the SEC, right? So I was at Arkansas from coming from Wisconsin I just think this league there's a band of brothers that is really strong. and I think they'll sacrifice for what's important to them to the sacrifice of the whole group. And I do think that's alive and real. Yeah, we're definitely not. I think S Mark Stubes who's a buddy mine it was at You know, I played together at Iowa, uh He used to share with me some of the things that were on that SEC group chat Lelane Yeah, I think so Mark was on the group chat. Okaykay, That's another coach confirmed. Yeah. Yeah. We're trying to get the bottom of who all is who's not on that group chat. I don't he is anymore He's lo down. he took his forty million from Kucky took off. Probably happy to that. And then the other one is I think a big reason for some of Lane success has been early morning group yoga programs. Yeah. Is that something that you've considered implementing probablybably aboutero four seconds. Okay. Yeahah. that's theot not a yoga tack. There's a reason I gota ty behind a loose bitit on. Yeah. We tried to do it. listen you look like. It was the worst thing ever. We like Lane and he's become a friend wish for them to have all the successud. If you put You in that Tabi Bahama and laye with his shirt off at the hot yoga and you say, whoo's the football coach It's a blowout, Lane. I'm sorry. N not cl. It's a blowout. I know. I know his guys Swyer' going to be watching this. You could send him the clip It's just a fact. you know, it blowout. So Lane was at Lane is Sarkper at USC with Pete Carroll And I was a defense coordinator at Kansas State, Co DC. and we beat them that year. So That was the only game I think they lost that year and then their quarterback Carson, was it you know, won the Heisman Wh play so this was two thousand one, two thousand one, maybe two thousand two Is that Carson Palmer? Nou Carson Palmer. won the Husbman, right. Yeah. Yeah and runner up was the quarterback at Iowa, but That year an agent brought us together for dinner that January at a coaches' C convention And I sat down to dinner with Sark and Lane. and that was in our younger years, right? And U the thing I've always been able to appreciate about Lane is like on game dayay, there's nobody better. Like I watched their film justust to see how he attacks and calls the game. It's really He's an incredibly gifted mind, obviously, a really, really cool person. I get it why players go there Now sometimes the the Money helps Yeah, but like he is an incredibly talented coach and and a great visionary, I think he's really good for a game. Yeah. I mean, you guys have a little budting rivalry going with USC now, I think. that game last year was insane. Yeah from your perspective on the sidelines. what was the range of emotions you felt there? Well, you know, we fumbble two times inside a five yard line Yeah and we want to walk off field goal. uh and and It was it was a game that I thought we could win going into it. You know, we do spring Scouting reports summer Scter reports. The more I watched them, we hadn't played him. I thought we could play. someome downhill football, a little old school whisco way that we used to play. which is kind of what happened. And then but their quarterback was electric dead, a wide receiver that was on Unbelievable and in But I knew when they scored, I thought we could go down and manipulate the game and we hit a walk off field goal O quarter our field goal kicker Aan boughtom, but he's no longer with us. But he was one of the best in the country. We had to walk off field goals last year. So I knew if we could kind of manage it the right way We get that W and that was a big one for us. How hard is that going into the transfer portal knowing like, hey, there's guys I love here that someone is going to offer them so much money that we don't have. Yeah, well, a year ago, everybody was kind of on the same ping scale, rightight? now it's kind of become a little bit indifferent. but you know, u, You know, David Alano he's a Sya kid here. I loved him F school to offer him. He's at our camp came to us I remember when his dad called me and told me what was going on, hisis dad was very emotional. like I They didn't want to see this kid go, right? Right from Illinois you know, for him, he wanted certain things and wantant a bigger name brand value. So that's part of the thing I go to early. It's hard for people to change their perspective, right? But If you're a kicker and you kick well in Memorial Stadium Gast Memorial Stadium, Illinois hardestadiums in the country to kick him He was a ninety five percent fillable kicker I'm like, dude, in your senior. this is It's exactly what you want. Yeah. You gott to get kids that understand what's ahead of them, not what's behind them, right? And you know, for us, you know, there's one hundred and thirty eight division one football teams going in this football season I've had it boat looad of guys go to the NL and have not just get invited, they stay Right. And I think that's a big part you got to point out to. And a smart strategy by you to be welcoming to kids being able to transfer because I think there are some coaches that try to resist it and it's like You see when you when I'm sure you use it as part of your recruiting where you're like, hey, when If at some point we get to get you to a point that you can then go make more money somewhere else, I'm not going to be making us think of it. like we want the best for you. I think communication is like I said earlier, but I preachist to my coaches and my players the greatest thing you bring ignorization is communication and consistency And communication is a two way street. just like we're talking, like I'm hearing you, you' hearing me and we work off each other But consistent, you got to be the same guy every day, right? And I always say like you come in and tell me you're going someplace else. I'm going to try to put why I should keep you But I'm going to end it with a hug. Like there' so many times I've hugged a guy crying. when a guy' leaving and watch them now a lot of them haven't gone on and had success. You know, last year Luke Altmeyer, who we had on here a year ago with you, right? Like was offered almost two and a half more million dollars than we were paying him to leave us And then we end up playing that team in the bowl game. Yeah and beating them. Yeah. And now he's with the Detroit Lions and I promise what he went through and what he learned from us the last three years is going to help him make success in the NFL. Yeah. If he didn't li through that, he probably wouldn't have the success he's ha now. And I think that's a really cool thing. Yeah. you ever pitch that to to a player like I'm probably the best hugger in the big ten. I think you might be the best hugger. I'm thinking through the list of other coaches' not good hug' not a good hug. Boney. Yeah, Bononey Sig's not a good hugger. I think he just doesn't no contact. He doesn't really a touch. I personally haven't ever ve be that I think you might I'm notfraid of it. Yeah not afraid. Did you consider telling your kicker like, hey, if you stick around, maybe we can give you the scoreboard that we're getting rid of? I had not at that point thought of that, but we tried to come up with a lot of things to keep him. Yeah, but it definitely wasn't in the card of tricks. You just offer everybody the scoreboard, just to take it off your hands. Just to take it off. Yeah. You're sitting in the stretch of the Cubs game tonight. We're going to run this probably Friday, but are you scared of throwing out the first pitch? I I am scared. Oh I was just bustsing your ball. My father was a really good baseball player back in the day Cubs, socks, cardinals all came to my dad's farm and My grandfather wouldn't let him do it. Wait that's hold on. Tell story because this is awesome. This is like something that you hear. So my name is Bret Arnold Biuman. my dad's name is Arnold Biuman. Okay. Every person I ever met from my dad's childhood tell me about how good a baseball player he was I sucked at baseball. I was the worst. So he's got he's living on his farm and They're like what part school baseball or what is it? Yeah actually, I think it might have been like churchague o back in the day U my grandpa wouldn't let my dad play football. So he played baseball and was really good at it. and I know couple organizations came and wanted to, you know, sign him and do him, but my grandfather at the time wouldn't let him. So That's crazy. Yeah. and it' my dad is an incredible dude. He actually went to the University of Illinois for about two weeks and dropped out because he's in love with a young woman by name of Maryilyn Morris who un thankfully he chased her because that became my mom Okay. If that didn't connect, I may not to be here. Yeah. So U But so I soccet baseball. terrible Jym cllass back in the day, first guy picks and everything other than baseball. So with that being said, like I've been asked severales to throw out the first pitch. I'm like, Hell no. Yeah. But I can't sing. I know I got a little Yeah, ye a little You got to start out the pretty sometime. I know, but, you know, so I had a kid Pat Ferrell threw out last week versus soxs and we got a Joill Barnow throwing out tonight and I called Pat last week. I said, are you nervous? He's like, he goes, I go, You know why I've thrown out the first pitch and he's like, whyy he goes becausecauseuse I suck Like I don't want to go out in failure. Yeah Yeah. Yeah I'm going to do a little duet tonight with Matt Bailey, our safety is a really good player. Okay That'll be arere you going toss into let's get some runs? I'm going to throw in at back end let's get some runs. Yeah. Okay that's good. You got to make a I do a little hairry carry rendition. Yeah. who's throw out the first pitch gott to go from the rubber. You gott to let go going to rubber. cannot go We have a little competition. Both of them were de lin, socks, de lin, Pat Faro, Jo Barno So really good players. We beat Barn on and Wisco you'd h to hear them. Okay. Re really got down to us in Wiscoo, but thankfully's playing for us. We're gonna start with end a one, end a two And one a two Yeahah, you're good to go. Yeah. you got this.ot some runs. All right. so the last thing I want to talk to you about because like I said, it's crazy we have become friends and it was great when we went, I think it was the USC Illinois game. I finally make her wife Yeah who I had tweeted karma at a bunch of times after you left It was good. good to say hello she was tell David. Yeah, It was like ten years in the making. It was like, hey, this is all good One of the things we bonded over is our love for chilies. h the restaurant So what give me your favorite. likeike Chilei's order. What's your order You texting me last night Yeah. Literally from a Chilies being like, check this out. It's like, can you believe Chilies in champagne, but I don't think I've ever been there. Yeah, the text was literally like, can you believe this? Look at me. I'm in a chil. I'm like, yeah, man, I wit We're in new Lenox Yeah. That's a good chili. Very good chil. I would say start off definitely I'm a Southwestern egg roll guy. Yeah. o okay. you, like you don't go to chil's and get whatever it gets. Yeah. but good Chili fries. you think a lot of people get the Southwestern egg rolls. I don't think that's not like a super exotic thing. Yeah. I like it. Are you getting the bottomless chips? T to start with for sure. Okay yeah. because I was say, I say bottomless chips before I sit down. Yeah. likeike as they're walking me to my seat I' like,y just, you know,'m want the. We only had about a thirty minute window. Yeah. That's where we got to get going on.. Okay. All right, so what else If I was ordering an entree, I would probably go like the trio combo. Y Little casadella. ye.. Eat your food, tina, right? Like you get a get a case of dilla whenever you can probablyrobably the jalapeno sausage. Okay and ribs. Yeah. It's good the boneless the boneless buffalo wings I always go with. I think they're very good at chilies. I go Chips, salsa, keep it coming with queso and then I'll go to Fajitist trio. twelve or sixteen ounce beer with it? I usually go I usually try to not get drunk because I'm just trying to drink I'm trying to eat all my chips. Got it. Yeahes, I'll go water a lot of times because it's like I got I gott to work I got to focus on my chips. I like doing the the margarita, the famous margarita to start and then yeep. Yeah a big bowl. then to clean it up. if it, you know, if I've got enough time, then you get the big boy beer to kind of wash it all down on the side What about dessert I don't think I've ever had a dessert of chilies. Ohow. They have a good chocolate lava cake. They do. Yeah. I know I don't like but I'm not a big dessert guy I'm not going to say anything about that because listen, I struggle with my own things, but How youited Zer guy What you talking? never really li sweets. I've never really liked, you know, I I'm not a candy guy. I've chewed like three sticks of bubble gum in my entire life, likeike What? Is that a real statch? Where I hate things to stick to my teeth. Have you ever blown stick bu? Have you ever blown a bubble in your whole life Not that I'm aware of. I'm sure little maybe That's why I'm just not a gum guy All right, so no like you're not eating ice cream or anything. U I'm not going to turn down a little salted caramel ice cream. Okay occasionally, but like yeah, it's not my This is where our friendship has just ended. We've made all this progress and now it's over Like this is crazy I don't know. I just never wrote Uh, you know, grew up in a Dutch family background, so we had raisins and rice which is a big Like D Yeah, yeah, sounds disgusting. know I'm aware of it raason rice. Ris and rice. K kind of like a But you know, there's some of that rice pudding that people Yeah ye. It's a little bit like that, but it's very unique and different. I promise you like nobody ever thinks of. And then we also had corn of mil We'd have popcorn and pour milk on it. that was a big. This was the most midwesestn I've ever heard in my life. Yeah. I'm not saying it was great, but I think it was cheap and it was good and it was easy. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. that's a very that's a very football coach meal. Popcorn and milk. Yeah, popcornilk. I love it. All right. well, our last question, roback question, RHO BacK dot com promo code take twenty percent off your first purchase, cQips, pololos, hoodies, joggers, shorts Robback d. com promoode take. I don't know if you met Zack yet. Zach is in the booth. How coach axaman's the newest member. I think the last time you were on was maybe before Zach 'use it's been about a year. I love his interview with Bill. Yes, Yes, Zach. Yes. Yes. Fantastic. Y So go ahead, Zach C great to see you today. Areciate you your time.. I did see that you grew up on a hog farm. Y. Has there ever been any thought to bringing the team down to maybe instill some discipline? If things ever get out of hand like, well, we go down to the farm and we could really show you how things get done I would not trade in the way I was raised for anything. I grew up on a farm twenty thousand five hundred pigs Um You know, a lot of times we would get on the bus at seven thirty. I would get up at five thirty and go do chores for an hour hour and a half. We never miss my dad Uh in my eighteen years and then two years into college, twenty years had never taken a day off u tellil you wentn't wash this pl plane a rose bow. So I think the things that that I learned, right, you never take a day off If you do anything worth doing it right because there is a day where my brother and I we wanted to go fishing So we were building a fence that we kept in like fifty pigs And we We were supposed to put five horseshoe nails on every fence And we started just doing one at the bottom, one at the top And the fence look great until you put all the pigs in it. And then we came in on a Saturday morning, I remember there was pigs all over our farm And we're like, what the hell? d d d d It's because we cut a corner it looked good. until it' really had to work, right? Yeah. And I always go back to that moment like Everything that I do as a football coach, I want it to be intentful. intend, you know, intended to have a result of what we wanted to do I never cut a corner. I think our guys, I've never been a blue blood type program, even when we're Wiscin, Illinois, win as big I've never really fit in it one of the bllue bloods because I like to You know, put in an honest dayayss work to get an honest day's result. And I think that that part to your point is something I believe. I instill every day. I've never taken our guys to the pig farm, There was a moment in my college career. I'll never forget like so when pigs have have baby pigs. They have about anywhere from eight to twelve, right And I had Four buddies come back. I was at the University of Iowa I had four buddies come back for a weekend in in a pig was having babies and she was struggling. I could tell and there was a pig that was dry, which means that She hasn't had one in a while. you need to help her out So I just jumped in putut your hand up in there and pull the pig out. And and we had a kid Teddy Bellser was from Green Bay, Wisconsin city kid and he literally was like six, five, three hundred and twenty pounds and he almost fainted. and I went in there and grabbed like four in a row and pulled them out. And for me, that's all I ever knew. And those guys are like Look, all of them were just blown away, but I always tell our coaches, right? Like when you get a freshman coming into the building They only know what they know. They only know what they've experienced If their parents on to be five minutes early is being early or five minutes late is being early, that's all they ever know, right? So you have to really take That's the true art of today's football is you got to have a one hundred and ten kids that think the same way and to get guys to do that is a really special trait. Underrated part of that story is you referred to a kid from Green Bay, Wisconsin as a city kid. That' a c. That's on the concrete jungle of Green Pig with Scotttson. It's a great defensive drill. like teaching you how to strip the ball. Like just reach into a hog and just pull a pig. Yeah. Yeah. They literally almost fainted. it was hilarious. That's awesome.actly. that's all I ever do. Yeah, is that good question. Do you follow up anything else that was all, but I came't p to a foall but that's cool to you Yeah Yeah this this one we're going to we're going to jump off the farm real quick if that's okay. Absolutely. As a consumer of college football, I hear so much about the NIL stuff coach what what had to change in your process in recruiting the bit like what was the biggest part? Like, not the little part, but what was like the big thing that you didn't feel Right about he had to drove home. Well, first off you know, the the perspective that we mentioned earlier, right is twenty twenty six You have to forget everything you've ever learned. Like I remember In my senior year, we played a big rivalry game against Iowa State. and I told a coach It was at Iowa state, it's been a real pleasure kicking your ass the last five years. I really enjoyed it. You've been a real prick I got. annihilated, right? Like just They're threatening to suspend me. like I was a captain. I was a pretty good kid, never been in trouble. Coach Fry brought me in and he' like s me down. he's like He goes, Hey, you can't We all know he's a prick. You just can't go around saying it. I'm like process and a donor sent me A big Iowa fan sent me a hundred dollar bill I've never seen a hundred dollar bill in life I literally took it in and turned it into the cllient's office because I wasfraid I was going get in trouble I could have done so much for that hundred dollars. And now I tell guys as coming in as high school players, I'm like, hey We're going to pay a hundred thousand dollars. Right And like it took me ten years of cohing before I got paid one hundred thousand dollars. I was a football coach And now these kids are getting this money coming in whichich is awesome. I love it, but I think we're setting them up for failure Right? So like one of these kids that you know makes one hundred his first year, one hundred and fifty a second year, three hundred and fifty. and then a senior year, he makes one point five million, right And maybe he makes in the NFL maybe doesn't and he's got to go to work for for a national rental car for eighty five thousand then he can't process it. Right That's the thing that's coming, right? And So I think that's a part for me as a coach Hey, it's just relative to the moment we're in. I think the other thing that kind of misleads people right now is There's a lot of people that are paying kids to be great I don't think that's the right approach I think you pay kids that have been great And just because you pay somebody a lot of money doesn't mean you're a great player. Just like when I hire coaches I don't pay someone a lot of money to be a great coach. I pay them because they're a good coach, right? If you're betting on the come, it may never happen, right? So I think that's a part that College football has to really understand and process. Yeah,. Yeah. A lot of expectations on eighteen year olds. like it's crazy. Yeah, it's not. And then you know, you throw in, you know All the social media things that can come at it, right? and the way these kids got to handle things like Kids are no different now at eighteen than they were in you know, two thousand, but the access that they have to people and the effects that that can have on our kids is devastating. And you guys have money showil time, likeike you have a lot of great coaches, but There's a lot of coaches that are all about them. Yeah And I would just say like like for me, like I'm very blessed. I'm very fortunate in what I get paid and what I do I do it more for now the reaction to see these eighteen year old kids that turn into twenty two year old k NFL guys. Yeah, like That's why I love doing what I do. and you know, my kids are obviously a huge part of our process now, but Um I think the world has really changed in that regards and you know, it it's a me me me world and Unfortunately, there's a lot of coaches that take advantage of that moment and it's all about them. you know, I see on your guys shows all the time like it just eventually the truth will set you free. Yeahight And and I think that's the part that That'll never change. You guys are great at what you do You were kind of on the cutting edge of all this thing of what what, you know, Dave saw it, You guys followed it and It's just a world that you just got to stay ahead of the moment you're in So I think that's a big part of it, but Unfortunately A lot of people take advantage of those moments. Yeah well. Yeah, that's well said. Well, coach Always great having you on. always great seeing you in person Uh The shirt is awesome Best of luck singing the stretch and until next time Areciate it very much. Thank very much Ia Coach Belan was brought to you by Chevy. Our AWLs know that Chevy Silverado is the official truck of Part of my T. That's because Silverado is d trruck with grit. 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We don't want to get injured Tune up Mount Rushmore Where we go M andPFT versus the Lockwoods versus the booth. just to get us in the field. ready? L it. All right, littleittlell sendoff match before Mount Rushmore. Yes. And it's a friendly. Yeah, it's a friendly. We're doing a friendly. Yeah, preseason U and we are going to do the Mount Rusmore non alcoholic drinks and just so we're clear at the start because of some of our sponsors, soda is we're not going to do specific soda, is just soda is a pick that is available And sports drink. And sports drink and sports drink. Yes. Okay Who's going first We gott to figure out we numbers Why don't we whyy we start with the booth? We're going to hank the booth, Lockwoods and me and PFT. All right, All right All right U We're gonna to start with soda. Okay. All right, good pick. good pick Way to start. Is it just way to start? Just one of them U No, we're just going with soda. I would say that my two favorites right now are Pepsi and then Mountain Dew, But ye those soda in general is going to be our one one. Good What time the day you like to drink soda, What's your favorite time to drink soda? I like to have two during on a plane. Yeah. That's my favorite. Y T timee to drink soda. Y Okay, good pick All right Lockwoods. Lockwoods. one one much discussed today. We're gonna go with milkshake. A Wow. Okay. I actually texted Big Cat Milkshake. I thought it was a stroke of luck. I didn't think you guys would have it, but I thought we would save it for later because it's a controversial decision. Why is it controversial? And so I thought some people might say that it's not a drink This is more of a ice cream. I don't know if they They serve it to you in a cup with a straw. It's always on the beverage menu. That's you' going go. You get a lot of beverages with spoons in them Not a spoon Milkshakes don't with spoons. Milhakes do come with spoons. Some do, some don't. Most don't. It's a drink T I think they just screwed up the whole draft because I think we just go one and three three one three one three. let's you know what the first pick is the easiest pick in the entire world because I don't know if you guys could exist without it How has water not been pick Water's the thinging the boring. Oh, I'm sorry, you know what? don't drink water anymore. See what happens. Oh. I mean you need it but it's boring. Okaykay. I recall Hank being a big fan of the ocean.. I recall Hank being a big fan of being on boats. Have you ever you don't drink the ocean? But could You can can't. you actually can You actually can It drives you insane would die. Yeah, but you can do it. It drives you insane and probably because it tastes so good Yeah. that you're like, oh my go God I feel like I'm crazy now If you if I said to you you can't drink water like if I said this was non alcoholic drinks you to jump into hold on. If I water would be the first pick. If I asked you right now and let's be true Serum You can't drink one thing for the rest of your life soda or water, which one are you picking You can One thing for the rest of your life. It's not shake or water. It's not it's not a non alcoholic drink. you're stuck on an island with. It's the one one non alcoholic drink. We're doing we're doing thought It's also delicious. It's good.'s it's quenching. You need it You first thing you do it when when you brush your teeth in the morning, you need water to do that too. You don't drink it. and you cook food, you need water to do that. Yep. Yout drink it. Oh guys are No you want to take a shit. Try shitting without water, buddy. You guys your b your body is ninety percent water Do you hate yourselves? You do. We don't it you guys are misc like your non alcohol drinks, things that you drink. It this is but it shows the u The wide r water is a five tool player. W' everything It does everything. It literally it separates us from every other planet in the world universe Galaxy, whatever may. It's a good fun boring pick. Yeah I mean Okay. You guys picked ice cream. Yeah, hey, what's that first word? Yeah. Is that you like ice cream? I love ice cream. It's not a drink. It's a food. It's a delicious drink. You need water. It's the building blocks of ice cream. Yeah All right, so the second pick is just as easy coffee Those are the two things you need. You need water, you need coffee. But they're not coffee you're gonna sit on coffee. Its essential Like I love drinking coffee and need to drink coffee, but it's doesn't Itsft because it tastes good some You said non alcoholic drinks. I'm sorry, didid you say drinks that you like that taste good? I mean, that's yeah, no We're picking the essentials for everyday activity. Did you know that you can tr be like if we did alcohol drinks, you pick Malort because it's like high alcohol. You didn't it's not You didn't say the Mount Rus more tasty is not more high alcohol than most other shots. Did you say the tastiest non alcohol drinks or not non alcohol drink? I just figure assume that was implied. Why was that implied Wh do that be? ' the Mount Rush more off drinks. Yeahah, N alcoholic drinks. coffee ands by the way, golden mug's still going on one last day We're giving away fifteen winners this time. Everyone gets a plus one We're going to a rooftop in Wigleyville for a night game, Friday night game, you come to the office And then all Bar still Chicago will be there So go buy right now stellbluecooffee. com if you buy the ready to drink kids is ten times the entries. Did you know that For the Elightenment, when we had scientific advances, mathematic advances, cultural advances, economic advances all across the world That was doing large part. the widespread adoption of drinking coffee and people having caffeine in their diets Mhm. no, it's not tasty. It can be tasty, still but can drinks, the cant seell blues are tasty Thank you. Podcast would not exist without coffee I guess Not just fact. All right, what are the milkshake boys have next? Steak I mean, this is an easy pick coming back around. We're going to go with smoothie Okay. you guys are You guys aren't even drinking anything. You just have you just have food that's been in a bl This is No this is this is guys just you need every drink you have is just bl. This is yeah. You can get you can get protein, you can get everything that you need. It's bigger than just a drink You guys are How much protein does water having in it Actually a shit load, you should actually look it up. We done. We should invent protein water It's a great p Smoothie milkshake. Smoothie milkshake.'s like yeah, you took food, but like after it's been in a blender. All of our listeners who don't have blenders are like, who are these guys Okay Tooth boys We're going to take lemonade. Good pick. Nice pick. That's a good pick Unlike smoothie and milkshake Very refreshing. And then we're going to follow up with its counterpart. We're going go ice D. Yeah, we were going to do that if it came back. great job. Y good pick. G. They're both great drinks on their own. And then when you mix them together, it's a fantastic drink. You guys could have taken either one in either order. What made you take limade before A I just told Zach to take I said we're going to go Lemade ice team here. just You could That's actually a question for Zach. Zach. reverse alphabetical order Got it. Yeahah. as you do Nice job All right, what do you guys got Hold on, we're collaborating I like Oh gosh, you gota slow it down, huh? U gravy. U Yeah. and actually not actually Grave, you're talking about pasta sauce All right, we're gonna go with our third pick, milk. Okay. Yeah. I mean your other two picks need it. So yeah, everyone needs it. Build strong bones You don't want to do like oat milk or something All right. I think we should I think we go maybe eight, five. Five, eight I like five, eight or thirteen. Or seven and eight two? Look at thirteen though. I don't think we go thirteen. I think we already got that. Okay, let's go eight and five. seven or five. I think we go eight five. Okay. All right. Chocolate milk, chocolate we'reaking chocolate. chocolate. Any would rather drink chocolate. if you have choice between regular milk and chocolate milk, you take chocolate milk. That's real drink. Unlike milkshake, which is ice cream Chocolate no You could dont say? Yeah. then Wait which one are we doing now? I forgot. He's either five or seven. seeven is fun Do you wantanna be fun? Yeah, it's be fun. All right, we'll take Caprice ss You got a problem with that It's not enough, there's never enough. Yeah, It always leaves you wanting more. Yeah, it's true. And punching the hole is one of the best things in the world. Yep. And you can turn it into a cell phone. And if you're an LSU tiger, you can turn it into an alcoholic drink Yeahember that? remember the that head Tail Yeah walk by the tailgate LSU. I swear to God, this guy had by three hundred Capris sons. justust sitting out in a cooler And he was like, you want one? I was like, what? And he's like, Oh, no, we put vodka in every single one of these.. It's like, okay, yeah, hell yeah They don't how to do tail ging. It also becomes like a thing where you you almost compete to see who can drink there as a fast. Y. I think you could probably take down a Caprisa in about two seconds And then you can fill it up with air, then you pop it. Yeah. Yeah, It's true. I love our draft. It's really It really dong. We have chocolate milk. The two most important drinks in the world, coffee and water. boring. We have a delicious drink in chocolate milk and the fun drink in Cap sun. We got four that you'd want to party with You got the Blender Bys over here and John Day in the booth. Okay, you guys have fourth pick? You said John Daley in the booth, Like that was a bad thing It's not John's it's Jn Yeah. But you said You said John Dailey , Arnold Potter. We're doing Smantic games. You got the guys who wish they were weren't into the man. No, I would never guys who w they John Dale. Fourth pick, no brainer, easy pick, Rotir float I like that one. I like That's my five year old If we're doing like by calorie, you guys we should actually like we should calculate one serving of all of our drinks and you guys would have like a two thousand calorie menu right there. I feel like Hank, when he texted us saying non alcoholic drinks, he forgot a couple words in it because it feels like The Lockwoods did non alcoholic drinks that you would serve at a five year old's birthday party We have shakes We have like if like a m if someone like gets like serious surgery and can't food. Yeah. Yeah. we basically have like this is how you get you know, protein and nutrients in your body. So those people please come out to vote. Yes, please. Yes. Hank and Kanye West. come vote early vote often. All the people who are undergoing jaw surgery, get out and vote Okay We're gonna go with slushy. M. That's a good pick Good pick. Good pick. It's kind of like a smoothie, but technically more of a drink. Made of ice. Made of water fun. Slush are fun. They are fun. Okay. What about icies? What do you say same thing? Iicy versus slushy. That's the same thing. What about that's just a brand of slush. What about waterood or ice That's not the same thing. That's Rer drink That's not a drink. Okay. You need you that's a spoon That's spon. What do we miss? I have co coconut water. I was gonna say good nut. Tom Brady's good nut. Yeah. ye. Yeah. bone broth Jesus Christ. Yeah, soup. I should have taken soup. Yeah. Ale juice Apple juice Apple juice orange juice Yeah. apppple juice aite. We got orange No we didn't get orange. We did not Yeah Matcha. Matcha. I've started enjoying nice matcha recently What about Bobty Bob? Bobberty pretty solid choice. Body armor fantastic. Body armor iss the best.. We got water. so we already got body arm. Vgin Pina Colada. body arm is more than just water. Yeah, that's true Selzer. Yeah. I like seelzerall. Favored selzers iss not bad. I like regular seleler too like a sandelette like a crispy sand Pelet green Ital sodas Italian sodas are really good ark cider soda Sparklay Cid. Sparkling cider is good. Sparkling cider good. Yeah That's actually just cider too Marker is better than cider. I agree. it's got the bubbles Your own piss when you're stuck in a desert and you don't know how to get home? Or if you're about to you're about to coach a basketball team. Yeah. You got a big big east gemame coming? Y. ye. What about ginger ale? Ginger ale iss good too. Nah. That soda. That's soda. It's also just when you're sick No, That's what I associate it with. I've been on a ginger beer cick Mm, which is non alcoholic, but it's like ginger ale, but just way more flavor. I think that's the first sign that I'm becoming old because surely my grandfather used to pound le. Six ginger beers a day. Yeah. Sheilly Temples Shley Tem T.'s dude.'s hammering those Borderline soda, but it's not.'s not I was gonna to say it's not ch. It's a shan ass pick right there. Yeah. Just sugar. You get the shark that's got the cherry syrup in it All, this is good Mount Rushmore warm up. Yeah, this was fun. I feel good. Yeah. It's like taking your first hit and training camp. Yeah, if this was real, I would have gotten real mad about the milk chocolate milk double But you know, this are just a warm upps. Oh, what would you said? Please tell that that that couldn't count that I would say that I would have thoughtought that if if I was on the milk side. If you asked for milk and I brought you a chocolate milk would you be like, what the fuck? Or would you be like, Ohh, that's exactly what I wanted. They're totally different things. Yeah. But it's like it's the same thingda is one category. one category Cffee an ice. Soda was one category because of spons. So so we could coffee coffee. Those are all good You could have done ye Yeah, couldee could have been taking ice coffee. Yeah. That's a big miss by you guys. That'sous. Yeah, if I brought you a chocolate mug, you'd say literally, this is not what I ordered. Yeah If you're like, hey can I a bl of cereal and I put cholate milk in it you'd like, what the fuck? actually pretty good Yeah. Yeah. ye. Do you guys think C choculate? Nobody took non alcoholic beer? ' 'cause it stinks. Yeah Correct. Yeah. correct. I'm sick of people lying about how good non alcoholic beer is. It's just not. J just don't drink don't drink beer. I don't think I've ever had one, to be honest with you. You don't want to start Um, Okay, good Mount Rushmore. shouldhould do Fire Fest do it. Do you wan to stick around for Firefest? Sure. All right. Firefest, do you have one The Lockwood couch. Does the Lockwood Cch have a fire fest? It has been a great week for me. I mean, we did we play played top fifty course in the country on Monday with the Pause charity outing H the family in town this week, brother dad brother in law And it's my birthday Saturday. I have I have I have no complaints. This has been has been an ideal week. What about I guess I guess the sppurs the spurs, Darren Fawx is my fire father. Yeah. What about the fact that you're when you're closer to forty I'm not worried about that. we're so far away. How old are you? thirty four? thirty three. Whoa. come on. I think he's thirty four and he's wait, you're gonna be thirty four. No I'm thirty two right now. I' gonna be thirty three. I think you're gonna bety four. born in nineteen ninety three. Are you A you Hank explaining his birthday to? I'm just trying to gaslight being thirty four. because He's done that to us. rememember He had us at forty for our entire thirties. Yeah when you're when you're in your late twenties, everybody that's in their thirties is actually forty. Yeah thirty four will be tough. thirty three is fine. Larry Bird Play strings number Billy Strings is thirty three years old. That's a lucky number Oh Okay, why Yeah I'm wearing ailly sing shirt and it's got thirty three out. He iss always R up startty thir Allright, so you had a good week. Good for you, Hank. Great week. Mrter Lockwood you got a far? I do not. I have a great week as well. Great trip down here to Chicago We avoided all the storms somehow Yeah, it's pretty good Some people are saying their fire fest is that Hank took a shot righty this week Doid you do that with you as well No, no, righty. Okay. because he did do that. He took a shot righty. Now. First time seing to play left he played pretty well. Oh, no, PFT. It was not putting. Is there right? No No No, it was actually like probably probably one hundred and fifty yards from the R I a question. were having some fun. was, you know, My question was going be were you just having some fun? No, I actually wasn't. We taking being dead It was actually Our Mulligan shot so we needed to get a good shot. Now It was not if it was not a round where I was keeping my own score though. Was it with a lefty club No. No ss club. Can I have your club real quick? We can't do that. Hank. we can't do that I wouldn't do it in a run where I was playing like my own ball. I would not do that. but You know, charity scramble, Mulligan. ' I already took a shot leftfty and I like, Oh, we got a Mulligan. Let's's, let's have some fun. I don't like the fact that you toss charity in there likeike it you made it okay because you it was we were we were I was I saved a dog with that righting. No you actually probably if you if you win the charity, then you take money away from the charity. No. we don't you't win any event? No You win the prizes You win a plaque? There were no prizes? No there were no prizes. Well plaques cost money. Yeah. Shut up Pause, great great event. I actually went up they were selling mulligans for charity. Yeah. And so you could buy three mulligans for fifty bucks and I asked the woman if I could buy twenty She's like What's the point of even golfing? I thought this was a charity. actually that's a big loophole too Yeah buy your way into the champions. Yeah they ced at three. Yeah. So which probably makes sense. But I wanted to just take a million shots and shoot the round of my life. Yeah R PFT your firefest? I got two small firefests. alsoso a great week. Things have been going good start of the summer. Dayays still getting longer for now U I guess first fire fest for me would be that the US national team is playing Friday night And I'm going to be at a wedding during him. Big T's getting mared shout out Big T. Best of luck to him and his lovely lady. He has been told no TV's at the wedding. And it's bigig T is the biggest like don't schedule fall weddings because college football He really did not know that this was going to coincide right with a soccer because He's a big U.S men's national team fan too So I've been instructed that I'm I'm allowed to bring an iPad. I don't know what the acceptable display options that I'm going to have will be because I'm I'm hearing that There might be a projector that hooks up to your iPad. Okay that you could kind of just take over a wall. Okay. But then depending on what kind of wedding it is, people might be like Hey, why are you making people watch sports during the wedding? So I'm kind of like stuck in between rock and har playay because I' I need to watch the game. Yeah, I have to. You got to respect the ball but I also don't want to be over the top as a rude wedding guest. Yeah, I think you kind of I think it's one of those things you have to feel it out you know vibes and then maybe first half a little bit. And then if it gets tight later Be there is I have been weddings where like last five minutes of a game, you get people pumped up. If you know it's only going to be five minutes, like it is fun. It's a fun Camaraderie. may got no TV roomle. Mres the future Mrses T. I don't want to getting anyone in trouble with anything like that. I think what happened was She asked him not to bring an iPad. Yeah. So she's like as the groom, you should not be Like you should not be walking into your own wedding with a distraction from your wedding in your arm. Yeah, which I understand. I actually get that. But I've been encouraged to bring bring my own device. Here's hereere's the rule I've always gone by. if if I'm watching a game or have to watch a game at a wedding. it's very low key. then if it's very if it's a good game, memorable game at the end You can have people watch with you Every minute you watch, you got to go doubly as hard on the dance floor when when the game ends. That's true. know I mean, you got to pay And you Yeah you got to be like everyone on the dance floor. let's have some fun. Maybe even start Because I think the game' going to get going during dinner. So maybe like cry extra hard during the ceremony. Y and really get in touch with my emotions. Yeah. appreciate the love and then kind of just bow out for hours Yeah and then I'll be back Ies I just looked it up. I think I I may also have this issue. There's a potential that I may also have this issue in my way. H withith the US team? Yes It right So I will be watching either way. Yeah. Thank you, Ink. I don't think they're I can't say that my friends are a big soer soccer crowd, so I don't think it'll be too big of an issue But it's a world cup. I feel like everybody is going to get and it is in the elimination stage of it, which I do think possible. we won't even be there Yeah, turnurn Hanks Mike off. So two two it was it's like two D versus one K. That would be if Double don't even get it. that would be if the if the U.S can't comes in second and there and because we're in group D, right? Yeah, and then we play one K O I don't know. This Max is doing scenario. No way you could figure this out. Don't think I just did to no two D V two G. we're so far away from. Yes. Actually it is better if we come in second our group, I think. oververall This is impossible to figure out what I don't turnurn realistically, I don't give a f. Turnerm an expansion might have ruined the Wor Cup You don't you're not watching anywhere Th the other small fire fest is I took Blake into the vet the other day. He has to get like ears cleaned once every six months or so. So I took him in. they're like, He hey, he's behind on a couple of his vaccinations. you Would you mind if we shot them up with those I said, Yeah, absolutely give him every every shot they needs. forgetting that Blake does not do well. with vaccinations. And Blake came home and has just been Howling has not slept is just being a real pain in the ass I think my dog not to go all RFK junior on you. I think my dog might be allergic to vaxis. I feel like Fauci he's got his hands in Bake right now and turns him into a different dog for about forty eight hours after he gets those shots. Then he bounces right back, but It's been a tough. It's been a tough day filled with zero sleep because of Blake's vaccineation. Vaccine hesitancy. So maybe next time I'll ask Everything can do Ivermectin next time All right, my fire Fest, two quick ones. one our playoff game got canceled. Pugs that sucked There's nothing better than like getting your self juiced up for a playoff game and then being like, boom No playoff game And then two, I took a I posted a picture of Mme's nipples and he hates me forever That's it I don't think he hates you forever anymore. He' He doesn't hate me There's a little part of them that hates me But that's healthy for me. Yeah, that is healthy But he's got to be on your toes now because any chance he gets. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. it's coming's it's it's getting back back to me at some point But yeah, memes are have you are you overnippleate I'm over That's all I see online now, but Oh, you know what you should do, Mmames I don't want tell you how to do yourob, you're very good at the memes game You know, the two ladies that sit behind the Spurs bench What if you photoshopped your own nipples onto their shirts? What if you sat there for game five? thought about that Have you thought about it? Yeah think I think I saw it on Maybe on TikTok, someone called you Jack N Plaus. Oh ye, that was good. That was good. I like that one Nipple backack Yeahep. How much how what percentage do you hate me zero. That's s at Actually, you know what we should do? We should get meiam's t shirts like like Taylor Swift said, Stevie Nipps Yeah Who else was Nippleback would have been one and then what was the third? Nips set. Niio? Yeah, Niplo We got all of them Oh man Oh yeah, that was unfortunate mistake. We did golf this morning Mames and I so and I'll say this. He had an incredible bounce back He was wearing a camouflage U long sleeve. which that know right off the bat. He's ent you don't really know where you're looking. He's going into his maxer. Yeah. and then he and then they took off the long sleeves. he got a little hot and he had like all these like weird like designs and stuff Get your eyes going left, right down can't really find where the nipples are. So he he's already he's already fixed it As long as there's not a camera around, I'd dress f Same All right, Zach, finish off Oh my preface this week. I did have a pretty good week this week, but I guess we're going for low lights. I did have a pretty rough rough start to the season, which would be the competitive call duty season. season four is out I u There's a rank system, gentlemen and it goes by SR points. So basically like, You do well, you receive points in return. You do bad, you lose points Through a series of disconnects, I'm probably about four hundred and eighty points in the hole It would take me probably about five weeks to get that four hundred and eighty back. I've since fixed the disconnect issue through YouTube videos, Reddit and prayers. That's pretty much where we're at. What was the disconnect issue? They just game was is crashing Andil it was like was it one of those things where you'd start a game and because you lougged out of the game, it punished you like it seemed Yeah they treat any disconnect as you abandoning it. Yeah. So the game of crash And then I'd go to try log back in and then I'd lose the points and then I'd get messages like What the fuck pussy? Why did you leave the game So those are always fun too. Would you care to address those allegations that you left the game because you're a pussy? What the fuck? Me being a pussy and me leaving the game are two separate issues. I didn't leave the game on purpose. Yeah For those of you thinking that. Correlation does not equal causation. Yes. Got it Not a puss Not also pussy. Yeah, like two separate things. Pussy can be pussy sometimes. That's not why. Right, right. Maybe pussy IRO on game standing on business. Yes. Yeah. Yes Virtually Tintoos down. I don't think you're pussy IRO. I think you gott call your shots. sometometimes you got to be puss Have you guys thought at all about Game five in San Antonio, like you guys, like there's Safety and numbers, you know, three man. I feel good about our three manen If we were to get jumped I don't think San Antonio is doing the jumping. But if we were, you punch and run So like big group balls you you could swing, you just had to hold on andt swing run. Then what do we think about run and run Also you're now saying Zach I'm worried about my boy Zach if there's a running situation I think adrenaline speed, I might be Right, but it's like the old saying like you don't have to be the fastest. you just dont you can't be the slowest. So' got to trip somebody Yeah you got to trip memes or check. No a different guy. You might have to be a different guy. No, I That's what I'm saying Chay's also ped. Yeah, he's yeah, Ch means got us. I got us. Guys won't fun with Chay. They probably think he knows Karate Cromiga. Yeah Little s Probably does. He probably does That's the one thing when you're with Chay Everything works out for him. I can see J being secret belted. Yeah Dfinitely secret built Good show boys Number eleven Nice one. Oh, come off. five. I go three Moroney We got thirty three. ninety five. We should we should have been all over eight Yeah. I go forty four. Yeah Actually, I'll go seventy three Jacob. Jacob Col. Jacob, Colton. N Fty two, twelve S people work One game at a time for the Spurs. one game at a time. Oh noams. No, that's a great sign. Why? Oh, becausecause Hank's about to have the worst summer of his life. Oh, But that is also another person who is No, no, no, no, no, no. there's one more game left for the Nicks. That's why was always gonna be one. Thank you, Hank N Nxts are going to win in five. Ns mes saying that he hank just submitted that mes going to get to watch the Nicks win the championship on Saturday night in person. I don't know how that correlates, but I'm happy I won. Yeah with won. How does that mean that he's gonna to have the worst summer ever? It's come. This You guys some planing this is Windleing. A yeah I mean, this is you have the birthday number. It's Yeah What a present? PFT Colton Yep, Max. Nope. No, not Max PFT Colton memes and Shane I did h it. H Sane gotten it Shane, have you gotten it? Okay. Wow. PFT C meames history repeating itself. Iready got it. You did not. You got it. You did not. I got ten. You did not. No. You did not get it. You did not But it also doesn't matter because Hank just Won champ. I won He won the next champion. you. I won . Thank you. Happy birthday today, Friday june twelfth to George H. W. Bush to Drew Holiday, Hideeki Metssui and Frank. Richard Sherman the football player, but he's a composer. His name is also Richard Sherman And then happppy birthday on Saturday to handsome Hank Lockwood thirty four years old. We love you, Hank Also happy birthday to Cassan Whiteide, Chris Evans, and Mary Kate and Ashley Ols. Yeah ice And did share her birthday with her? Yeah and Tim Allen I didn't know that. Yeah, remember when we killed him? Yeah We' gonna forget. All right That was awesome. But also happppy birthday Love you guys