Kirk Goldsberry's NBA Finals Pick

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B die Welcome to partart of My T, presented by Draft Kings, The Crown is yours Today is Wednesday, june third And boys, we've never done this before But we're going to do it right here U we're going to play The ending of the show, the lottery balls first because otherwise we can't do the rest of the show. So this was us taping the lottery balls segment a few hours ago. Let's do numbers S se Fty four, fifteen, eleven fourour. twenty one What'st matter, man name,'ty eight. You're Nova guy. What number do you wear in Nova S matter means p an effort Zack in his white castle. U, I'll go ten. Lo it. Z No let's go ack! Let' go Zack. Hell yeah, Zach! Let's go Hell yeah, Z fuck. Let's go Zack. Why Zach?, whyy iss he fucked? fucked? Let's.ain why he's fucked. Means Why is he fucked I don't know. Well you said the numbers, everyone could have said whatever number they wanted. Yeah Z Mmes apparently always takes eleven. I've been t it for the past. Always take eleven. I've taken it for the past two months. And And Zach just took eleven and he got it for no reason. Have you gotten it? The only reason I took eleven is because Max is one hundred nine thousand eleven emails. Yeah no, Mes How mad are you meames So love very mad Oh You' just have words. Mmames No, I'm steaming. This is what Yandel was talking about you get the school shooter vibe Well, that's just fucked up. Right. Do you have it Now that I would go into a school and shoot No, it' a big cat that was over the line. We're not talking about podcast. We're not talking about actually what about an office? and adults Yeah, that's that's that's equally as bad. Okay. right. I thought you're going say no, that's that's that's that's b. That's one of my Do you think they act did that on purpose memes? Yeah, he does everything on purpose. Oh Zach, do you regret this? I just saw it in the emails I didn't really think much. Oh so you don't regret this. Look there's no taking it back. No one owns numbers. Yeah. own the numbers. Oh forgot to wake up again. I look that for you. That' on machine means. A couple of guys have head it this year. I believe that's me Big Had and Jacob Yeah I haven't h it. Oh yes. You're also like a not hitted guy. I actually have hit it this year. No, you haven't. Yes, I haven't too I I want it on the first day of the year.'t count the good jobsZack. wayait to wake up for that one.. it count. This machine may have count. Did it count? Max Oh this machine. Max w the old machine Max left the booth and he walked into because it's too awkward. He got it on the old machine this year. He has not he's never got it on this machine I think we should give it to him. Something you've done I think we should give it to him. No, but I have won it this year. No, you have not Yeah, this year, you've won it, but not on this machine. I have won it this year. N not on this machine. You have this mach machine. Everybody's got. I won on this won it on this machine. No you did w it on this machine. No we didn't He did not And you just got his number. He's been how long you beenident mon I've been doing it for Jale Bronsson Oh, but well, he's a next fan too, you should be happy for right get the rest of yourames I believe in you. He for you might not hit, who knows? Yes Zach next fandom has been retracted. Okay. Oh Damn. canan you do this? bad right before bad Finals? This is bad energy going He's out. He's out's out. We can't have this. We still w to watch a game on Wednesday or no. Oh, you guys have plans to watch this together? We watch Mllow highlights So no windss All right, he's soad. That's tough. Pack's left the room And now we're back. And things have just kind of snowballed from there. Yeah. So it would have been impossible for us to do this show without acknowledging that right off the bat. There is some contention notot great timing considering the Kicks are about to play in the NB finals the most important series in New York basketball in what? thirty years? thirty years. So things are things are at a high boil, I would say Um, have they gotten have has the simmering reduced anything since the last wee talk guys Name Zach Max Max. Max, you got you gott to get in the game here, Max. This is I'm in the middle. They need to be able to look at each other. I should be back. I'm fine. Okay. Okay here's to fine Fine to the point of saying the Zach bit has run its course and then kind of trashing them on Twitter Well, yeah, that was just out of rage. Okay. So has the rage subsided at all Be like you understand why we had to show the lottery balls at the start of the show. People are tuning in right now being like, why do they hate each other? It would have been very confusing if it was a regular show. and then at the very end, it's like, o, that's why. So This is why How are we doing We're in the same booth Z. Okay. Zach. If there are any other podcast hiring DME, I can't stand the sight of this guy. That was part of my meme. You just need a backup plan Memes has demanded at one point demanded a trade Uh to any other show Then there was also a point where someone suggested that memes could do a show with Racini and he did not turn that down He did the shhrek meme. Yeah Now Mames, did you unfollow Zach on social media? No Okay, that's good didid you block him on social media? No, he's good, he's good unless the Nick ose Okay, and then what? just rap But could it get worse than it's already been No, I don't think it get worse. Yeah because the rage is, you know, it came out hard and fast the rage atZack and we've been sitting in it. We've been stewing in it. we tape I think most people know that with our busy schedule, we sometimes tape things out of order. So we taped Guys on chicks and the lottery ball at like eleven AM today And it's now four o'clock. So we've just been stewing in it for the last four hours Uh what what was that shit call Oh no. he's probably like, Hey, why are you mad at Zach There's actually a chance. you want to pick it up? Yeah. Okay No, pic it up on air All right, so Mimes is leaving the room for a second, which might be a good thing. It also might be a fake call. It might be a fake call. This might be him dealing the d rage, which actually you got to call got a call. Max or Zach, let's start with you. How are you feeling I'm in a good spot. You got game one coming up. You have not backed down, which I gave you credit for. I asked for immunity from mees temporarily. He granted it to me. I said loud I I respect the hell out of Zach for not backing down Um are you're going to stay strong here? U Yeah, look guys guys got emotion sometimes. sometometimes I got to let them out. That's totally cool. No we're really all good. Okay. No big deal. Did you notice and this is a little bit of jumping around here, but during the upcoming interview on today's show with Kurk Goldsbury, Zach asked a question. Zach made a specific reference to Jayen Brunson's jersey number in that question That seemed like that might have been directed to Mmemes, but then while you were asking that Mmes deliberately cut the camera away from you while you were asking. He also was doing the hank face if if we're coining at that.. as Zach was asked. Can you show us the hank face Oh yeah, that is a hank memes can't exist. Hank, you do a good Hank face. Thanks. But but things are you're saying that things are okay now. You're both saying that we're on the right path. You've got a common goal. Are you next your finish line? Are you still a Nick VanZack U Aording to memes, you're not Voke that for me.. I don't think we're going to watch the game together Wednesday. That isn't a couple days. so I would still be open to that. You It's today. It's today. Oh fair. were you guys were planning on watching the game together? We were. Okay. I don't know if we are still maybe later in the day Maybe we still link up Mames watch the game was Let just be clear. I've been picking this is why I'm mad. I've been picking eleven gettingning of the playoffs And I said if any point Eleven comes up, the Kicks are winning the finals So so there you go okay stop fucking touching note You're just stop pulling down my headphones, Dick Nice Villa Nova sweat sher, by the way me nice very Oh, what was that, Zach? It V' up. Oh, Vs up So That's why I got so angry. Cool Lizor Max. Got it. It would have been the greatest omen just start the NBA finals. Yeahes would be on the day the day of the finals and he said he picked it because of Max's emails Yeah. So that is why I am mad. L Ns haven't won a championship in fifty years. But the number eleven coming up still means Yeah don't It's a sign We just don't know what the sign is. It could have been a better sign. Okay. So for people who are superstitious. Yeah. Yeah. Fair. everyveryone here is superstitious. Normally, like you guys steal numbers, that's fine. You steal numbers. There's nost We can't steal a number. You say it first. Yeah Numbers are for everyone. And I would have said it, but I was fixing the camera because I have to fix a camera. And that's where it comes in that you're like, Zach does nothing. I actually work But was you saying that that was just out loud That was just that was not a real thing. I love Han Cultural Max. that was well, toward him too, but I I have to fix the camera. Yeah.. You said earlier that you're the only one in that booth that does anything No, I did not say You did Listen, I'll actually side with you here because Max looks ridiculous in his visor right now. So like that's a guy who's not wrong Sitong Max vor. Max is cutting the cameras right now. Okay. And if he wass more attentive on the computer. I'd say he does a lot. Okay. He does not attendentive on the computer therefore. I struggle sometimes with that In Zac doess nothing in the booth We just he just He just sits He what was the other tree? It was like we I the fourth mic now Well that guy that that was What What didd you say? I just said That's just negative. I'll find it. Self u selfiscommunication. He just posted things. I just said things out loud. I you just quoted Zach there. Yeah. what did what did you what did you say? What was the fourth mic thing Well that the guy was essentially like You' bit is probably up. I was like, well, I have to talk. Because others don't speak up into the mind Okay Max, P your fucking headphones back on, dude This you're part of this. Well the way that Max has been handling this is it's very funny because Mmemes has been going after Zack Zack's been also giving it back to memes a little bit. Well that's the thing. I he have just been like Fuck that is Jalen Bronson And then Max has just been buying visors online to distract himself, like doing doing like Just escapism in real time, just logging ono Visor websites. I got nine Visors today. He' Bararsal Sports Avisor All right. so I think that we're in a good spot. kind of and the spot that we're in is If the Ns win the NBA title This is all forgotten and it actually was a great omen and, you know, peace peace in our time If the Kicks lose the NBA finals Zack and Mmes will just never speak again. Crect. Okay. That's all right list it's a lot on the line. We got some juice for this phine. We didn't need more juice, but now we have more juice It's nice to have more juice. We need a next win, but that would be a huge bummer. So I'm not even going to look to that becausecause we we gott to get this win. Zach, what if you just bet on the sppurs to win the finals and then if the Spurs win the finals, you just give memes all the cash to pay off for his friendship No we got to see N next one. Okay guys yeah What's your favorite memory of working with me and Zach? Just in case this is the last time that you guys are on good terms One time I and Mmes went the UFC fights Then it was really fun. But then we on we chose to walk to the office from the arena. And the most rain I've ever encountered in my entire life came down. And it was a lot of fun honestly. Really? was that was like you guys the rain That was a good. Yeahah, that sounds kind of sauss, my bad. But it was a fun day. Yeah, it was fun day.. It was an all time day.. What about you Mmes? What's your favorite memory Zach? Do you remember that day, Mmes? I do. I've had a lot of fun memories of Zach It's tough to see him turn on me like this He's turned on you dude. Thomas wasn't a turned but I see where you're coming from, and I respect it This is M'sa Max's fault. Yeah. It is Max's fault. Max, if you read more emails, it wouldn't was wouldn to happen. had to read one more email. Yeah ye. or get one more. Literally all you had to do Right now it says thirty two Okay twenty emails, one hundred nine thousand thirty. Okay. goodood for you. lotot of Etsy. A lot of visors coming Th are all vis. I did. I texted our friend Jerry just to see if he had any words like try to bring you guys together because we can't be going to the finals with the Nicks fans at odds with each other He doesn't really have anywhere. He's just been calling trying to contribute in some way. I told him I might call him back. I feel like we're at a good spot though. Yeah I feel like introducing Jerry right now like That he's going that could be volatile. I texted six Nix fans. Jerry was the only one who's just like dude who cares All the other ones are like fuck them Yeah Okay. Okay, so listen to Jerry. Yeah Jer Yeah Jerry was just like, dude, let's let's just shhut down Webby and we're good. Yeah Zach, you agree Do you have anything else you want to say to me 'ause last time you said somebody to memes, he physically cringed and I'd like to replicate that I don't want you to cringe again It's on me Nid to he what he says Okay. Okay. All right. let's talk some we got a shitload of stuff we gott to talk about. We'll get to the NBA finals. Maybe we'll get some predictions from them. They're yelling again, PFT. They're doing the thing where they turn off the micses and they said' yelling each other like you guys are You guys can't do that. I'm not a part of it. Yeah, but you turn off the mics and then we you started yelling at me. Yeah once you start max leave it on. You're just looking at Max and this camera He' just he's so uncomfortable. Yeah, I don't like it. He's also what you want me to say. I'm literally in the middle of you, Jer. It there's two of you fighting and it's me in the middle of it It's a confrontation part of life. We are boot here. You gott to deal with it. Yeah. I'm was saying we almost need a talking stick for that for that room. Yeah' hold If you hold it, then you're allowed speak. J's too much yelling He it also is hurting that Max is like ninety percent visor right now Yeah so many more. your head though, you you can't see it's just Pizer. It's good. Okay, before we do that, before we talk a lot of other sports. Draft Kings, the final round of the basketball season is here, two teams left, one trophy on the line and only Draft Kings has you covered everyvery step of the way. 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I know this is lame, but my take is Wins all around. Yeah Yeah, That's why I told Hank in the car yesterday. I think that it's like a rare win win trade because Jerred versus awesome player. Yeah. I know this looked at now as being the Miles Garrett trade because we talked about Miles Garrett possibly getting tradeed for the last. It feels like two years And then there was nothing about it. And then out of nowhere, oh yeah, they traded him again. So it felt like That kind of jumped out so everyone's referring to as Miles Garretrade But Jared Verse is an awesome player. So this is good for the Browns. They get a young awwesome defensive linemen. They get a shitload of draft picks. then you could can make the argument like, well, what do the Browns usually do with the draft picks? Maybe they just get a way better defense still. Maybe they just I was just say how recently keep investing in their defense. Recently they nailed Okay nailed it on the defense But then with the with the RAams Now it's like you go back to Matt Stafford and you're like, hey, sorry about that whole drafting and quarterback thing We are in win now mode. So it proves it. So that part, I definitely I've been a defender of the Ty Simpson pick. I will admit that it looks a little bit different like as we've gotten further and further away from it going for the Miles Garrett trade Well you really should have used that pick for something. if you're really going all all in But so for the Rams I love the move because well, I hate the move because it's going to make the NFC that much harder. but In terms of the actual Rams, the move is smart and it's basically they proven that they can do this. They did it when they won the Super Bowl last time that they were able to rebuild essentially on the fly where they're really good at drafting. They're really good at coaching. They're really good at developing. They they did all those things after they won the Super Bowl. they won five games and then they went back to the playoffs and You could make the argument last year that they were the second best team in the NFL and if they beaten the Seah Hwks, they probably would won the Super Bowl So This is a smart move by the Rams because they've basasically as an organization realiz that they can figure out a way to still compete without having draft capital. and Miles Garrett, when I think about like the Rams and them winning the Super Bowl, Yes, it was Matthew Stafford. Yes it was Cooper Cup, but more than anything, it was Aaron Donald making those big plays in the fourth quarter against the Bengals. You now have a guy who is going to do that in those big, big moments and they also have completely fixed their secondary like I think we just forgot like Trent McDuffy got traded to the Rams Jayen Watson is Ram. likeike they've done a lot of work on their secondary, which was suspect last year. And yeah, the Rams have proven that they can deal with you know, monetary restrictions in the future, you know, a lack of picks in the future. They're going to be fine. They're going to go all in It's a great move for them and then the Browns, I think is it's very smart for them because they weren't going to compete this year. for anything meaningful And This upcoming draft is going to be loaded with QB's They didn't want to go into this draft with only a single first round pick where if they end up being, let's say a six win team and they're in like the, you know, eight to ten range. They might they might struggle to get their Qy the future. Now they have two first round picks. Now they have flexibility that they could possibly trade. because it feels like the Browns are building to a point where they got to get the QB next year. in the draft. and if they do A lot of the other things are starting to fall into place. Shout out to Andrew Berry, the GM from the Browns for being like stunningly competent with Yeah. when he could have traded them last year. He had a lot of offers last year. did not trade him because he said that he wanted a premium young talent in addition to just a boatload of picks coming back his way U and I don't know if this was him like stunting or trying to stunt or just flex his muscles h in the press, but he was saying that like he didn't even consider it until like, you know, not I'm not going to even talk about moving Miles Garrett until I hear the words Jared verse, which is what he got. And that seems like just a it's a power play move on his part. He said that Miles Garret did not request a trade again this year So he was probably just dealing with the Rams going into it. It does feel a little bit to me like after the draft like the front office in Los Angeles and McVeigh probably realize that they kind of screwed up a little bit in the quarterback situation and they're like I'll make it up to you, baby, I swear J just give you some time Ill figure I don't know how I'm gonna do it But I'll make it up and you'll see I still love you. I still care about you. We're still all in. And you know what? you know, mayaybe Earon's even going to come back. Yeah. I don't want to speak for Aaron, but he might be able to come back now He has been posting on Instagram. with some cryptic captions that If you are of the conspiracy mind and you're a Rams fan, you're probably thinking like E Aron Donald's It to. Yeah, which would be disgusting if that happened. Yeah, could you could be right, like they they M if you teexted Oh, really? And what do you say He said he's thirty five and he's got to see if that fire can light back up. Oh That's not a no. Yeah, that's a yes But you're right. Less N probably did say to Matthew Sver like, donon't worry I got your money. I got your money. Yeah you know I got it. I got it. You know, I' good for it. It's not what it looks like me drafting this quarterback. I I'll prove it to you. It is shocking in the fact that it's I think Miles Garrett, at least the discussion is we have but I would say he's probably the best player who's ever been traded in terms of he's the defensive he just set the sack record. He's a defensive player of the year. like the list is, you know, you could go Marshall Fak, you could go Bettis was strange Bet talk about that. Wait, he was on another team He was on the Rams his roookie year. A. Okay. Randy Moss, but that was also a little, you know, like the shining come off a I'm saying like the peak Portis Clinton Portis Champ Biley is definitely up there. was a great trade. But like the peak peak powers, Miles Garich has had He just set the sack record. Joe got trade was your g Was Joe M tr. He he was the chiefs, but it was at the tail taillor end of his career. I forgot if that was a free agency dealer or if that was a trade. Steve Young getting traded to the forty nineers. Al Michaels getting traded for Oswald, the rabbit Guess, who could forget? yeep It doesn't happen very often. likeike there's there's certain guys that have been traded. You know Marsha Lynch got traded but he wasn't fully Marsha on Lynch all the way there. Clele Mack is Cle Mac is in discussion, but Miles G' better than Cle Mac. likeike that's that's just fact, but he did he was a big I think if they're like in the samemosphere. Mesarret the best defensive player in the NFL. Right It has been for a few years now. actuallyually like going back to I think Aaron Donald he retired and then Miles Garrett just kind of took over from there. Jersey Jerry's not going to like that. He's not but if you look at the I'm a stats guy. Yeah. Jersey Jerry iss eyeballs guy. But it is crazy because that's why it's so significant that you don't see a guy like this traded Mcab McNab got traded. Yeah at his prime He did a lot of good totally is pide. Yeah, one hundred percent is pride. But yeah, it's it's lame to say, but I think it's a smart move by both sides And I think the Browns are like I know that they've done a billion rebuilds and it all hereere's the thing if you're if you're a Browns fan that you got to be worried about is that You could do all these moves and they all look good on paper and I think they're doing the right thing and they've had some really good drafts. It all still comes out of the quarterback Can you get the quarterback? That's all that matters And that is to be determined because it feels like they're gearing up to get that quarterback. in this upcoming draft. And if he's the guy Everything else should be in a good spot for the Browns to be good. Like a great place for Miles Garrett too to get the surprise out of nowhere. like a year after you asked for the trade Okay. Well you're actually on a contender now and they're just going to unleash you But then if you're jared verse kind of maybe not the best Monday that you've ever had in your entire life From Kant, Ohio. Fr Well, yeah ye from Kant so he's like a neighbor. Yeah, no, but he's from Ohio. So it can't be the, you know, it's not totally This is the worst place ever. Right. I'm not saying I'm not saying like the state of Ohio Yeah bad place. I'm saying just centered around the Browns organization haven't historically been good recently and they're still A good ways away on offense, I would say. Hell two pro Bowl quarterbacks coming back. That's a fact. But yeah, if you're Jared versing, I actually think this this is a good thing for Browns fans. It's going to be tough to like say goodbye to the one player that's been the one shining beacon of light that you've had like You've had the best defensive player in the NFL that you've gotten to watch. You watch them get the sack record He's made your Sundays worth getting up for the last several years It's going to be tough to say goodbye to him But Jared vers is a fucking stud And he's going to be a great player too Then you add in the draft capital that you got, like Sy's lim Maybe not the sky the top of the dome that you're building Okay Q question for you PFT Th days it's going be tough to say goodby Do Todd Munk and say goodbye to Mouse Gart? because he if if we follow everything Tod Munkin and Miles Garret spoke Does he send him a text being like, Hey, man, it was a privilege getting to coach you? I you know you didn't speak to me. I think' an email like the US national team. He sent an email opened up to acknowledge you have been traded. It's it's it's like very, very funny to think like Todd Munkin just never. he was the coach of the Cleveland Browns. We're going in twenty years like if Todd Munkin goes on to have great success And we're we're hopefully God willilling still doing this podcast and meemes and Zach haven't broken us all up. Uh We'll have Todd Munket on the show And we'll forget and be like, Hey, so what was it like to coach Miles Gary? He's like, actually, I never spoke. I ran him out of the building. I literally never said a word not like that guy one bit. Yeah. it does seem weird that I would imagine that Monkey was probably pretty happy about this. Yeah. It never seemed like well that wouldn have been be in the Miles Garret business. Yeah. Miles Garret obviously wanted Jim Schwartz as the head coach. Yeah. Verbal meme memes. Miles Garrett, Todd Munkin, Mme Zach. You guys can decide which side is who She never speaking again. Yeahes, so who's who's getting tradeed to the ringer That's the question. Who's going to LA Anyone? Well mees that est trade. Meess demanded a trade. Yeah. He Well he kind of said it's either me or him. Yeah. No, no, no s bit from business Maybe go to the oh Rusillo show That's in house. Yeah. Yeah Oh he did sell his boat though hear about that? Yeah. likeike that's that's we should have talked about that on the show. I'm not I didn't want to bring it up, but I thought about buying it Uh he went from what is this? Tom Brady is liked the post about What This can't be real. erry I don't know if I should pick up or not. So this is this is the so so this I was doing the Yak when Me started going on his spree of saying it was Zack bit has run its course and I didn't want to spoil. So I just said everyone tune in to pardon my take tomorrow. in the back of my head. I'm thinking If you guys even knew how ridiculous this was, you would be like, what are you talking about? but Right now it's like everyone is assuming I've been getting texts being like Tom Ferneelli texts me saying like is Zach in physical like harm I said no. B alsoso gues. He's not in danger. I don't think he's in physical danger. Whitne and Yans all texted being like, what the hell is going on? Yeah. peopleeople care. People care about Zach and Mmes. Tom Bradyy does Never called for anyone's job. No you just demanded your own trade. Yeah. mean said the bit has run its course, which would imply that it's the dumb bit He's a smart guy Mams, would you think that Tom Brady do you like Tom Brady being on your side? Look what you've done. Yeah, that's not good Now he's probably on exide but in So Full context. there's a clip part of my take clip account clipped out B big cat talking about it on the Yak and he said that Tom he posted a screenshot of Tom Brady liking that clip. Oh so that was did not happen was call for So it could it could have happened. It could have not I don't think that happened. It could have happened. It could have, but it so it didn't even go from a regular what account was what account tweeted it out or put out the on the Instagram. Do see what I'm saying? Yeah, this could be fake news. Yeah. it could be. It could also not be to not be It could have Maybe we Who's to say? Who's to say? Who's to point? Wait what is in this post trruth society? Wh's to say withith the dead internet theory and all. Yeah, we don't know. Okay Other big trade which We doew it's going to happen for a very long time A.J Brown is a New England patriot. Congratulations Hank. Congratulations, Thank you. Diane Rosini. Yeah.. abbsolutely. He was nailed this nailed it. No, memes, no She told us a differentam Oh, She did tell us charges. L w things. She didn't report that. She reported this trade. and then she said Maybe the chargers off the record. This is Num S Wors podcast and she said on this show Oh I thought it was bleeped out Remember what's said on the show? Okay in hest, I walk out of the door and I'm like, hope, that one Well. Regardless, the she nailed it. The inevitable trade became inevitable And he's now a New England patriot. as we all predicted, it felt like he had one foot out the door for the last two seasons. You can admit that now, right, Max U after week four last year So that's what it was. And what do you mean after the last two seasons You won a Sperow He did win a super But then went on to Mike to say like, you guys all thought I was a hater, you guys all thought I was a diva Well, you can't say them. Yes, yes. So that all happened. so we We did think all those things. Also like mint I'm just saying one foot out the door. That doesn't mean that he can't win. He's been thinking about leaving the team for a while. after week four last year. Okay. All right. let's start with you Hank Excited. Drake May, not a drama king. so I don't anticipate, you know, the reason it's not it wasn't the players or the skills set. it's just They had drama that they couldn't get over that apparently was the the rift that that started this all. So Jalen hurts B deductive reasoning is a dramic. Yes. Okay Not worried about that with But AJ Brown. Okaykay So it's Jill. Okaykay. He said really sorry. got it, gotot it And Mike yeah, no. I mean, but he's a deiv wide receiver. That's again, like we've talked about this on the show a bunch of times. It's good. to be a stud wide receiver, you have to have a little div inue. I don't, I'm not concerned that AJ Brown has it in him. He seems to be The biggest Patriots fan on this planet. and he's been dying to come to New England. He said he had a patriot's rug that he still had out in his house in his basement that like w Never got put away. He's had the jersey since he was a kid. He' patriots die hard. so Seems like he's going to give it his all for the city. We have a widerceiver one Drake May Thick with three C's. So excited. This is something that he wanted to do regardless of who the quarterback was or the coach or the coach has nothing to do with the coach Yeah, I think obviously him and him and Rab will go back to Tennessee and F was going to hold him accountable. He would' have wanted him as bad as he did if he thought he was a diva was going to be a locker I kind of like where your heads at Hank. I think I agree with you like AJ. Brown deep down, he craves accountability Yeah and he knew that he wasn't getting it in Philadelphia. Cor. It's like yeah, you know everyone's just to walk all over this g. Yeah. he needs a real like coach like sttern figure telling him like, hey When you step across this line, you're a member of the Patriots organization. This is really what's going to get them over You're representing something champion that is bigger than you. and AJ really wants to be a part of something like that as opposed to just everyone out there like goofing around being best friends or whatever Yeah, so I'm excited. It's exciting It's exciting He said, I know this ain't heaven But it's close it. Yeah. That's. Is how people say about Fox. Yeah When people drive to Foxborough. That's usually their first reaction. What's close to heaven? It's not heaven. Can I ask a question? Yes. And maybe someone knows the answer to this because I've pretty busy day and I don't know if there's maybe more discussion about it Is it a little weird that the Patriots traded This year's first round pick, but twenty twenty eight That was always the Okay the twenty twenty seven was more valuable they wouldn't give up the twenty seven, but they would give up a twenty eight. Howry Rosman said first picks or first picks. We're still going to be playing football. gotot twenty eight. I thought it was I was saying more the reverse way like the Patriots are like, oh, we might that pick might be now if regression happens, we might want that pick. I think it's the GMs say that the twenty twenty seven draft is got to be the Okay, that makes sense But how he doesn't care How he said we'll be playing football in twenty twenty. I like that. I like the optimism, but I mean, Kyle Shanahan would disagree The world could I mean, look at memes and Zach. We woke up this morning thinkinking they were best friends and now they don't even talk to each other. So anything can happen. Yeah. We had such a good morning in the booth. Max, what is your take on this? And do you want to acknowledge the comments that Henry Lockwood has made That's fine. I get it. like I've been in your shoes. I was in your shoes four years ago You get a really good receiver who wants out of a situation. And ye. Super Bowl. Yeah. Like I think that AJ Brown is a good player. I think that it'll probably I disagree with the fact that you think that This isn't going to turn to shit because it probably will turn to shit at some point because that's just what AJ Brown does He was really excited to get drafted to the Eagles. He was really excited to play with his best friendraft. He was really excited to get traded to the Eagles He was really excited to play with his best friend Jayalen Hurts He was three time all pro, went to two Super Bowls, one one Listen. He was good He was a he was a talking. He was a very he was a very good football player for the Eagles He's probably the best Eagles receiver. You can make the argument that he's the best Eagles receiver of all time. Whoa who. He's had two the bestbero. He's had he's had two the highest single season receiving yards in franchise history. What about Fredx? What about James Thrash Ty Pingston. We're just strring guys out. A.J. Brown is as about Aguilar. AJ Brown was a great with the Meddallandands B John Dodson on the team this year? John Dodson a great player. Yeah, really good player So the p on Jeffrey Patris really good Patriots got a very good player. Eagles got a good return. Jeremy Maclan. It is what it is How he is How he has Yeah. it's like what you said about the Rams Brnds. It's good for all parties No, I think somebody won this trade I hate to say it I I got to go with Hank I think the Patriots won the straight T not even have to give up a first round pick next year is crazy. I mean, they still to get we'll still be playing football twenty twenty. I hope so Nobody I can hope in one hand and shit in the other. We'll see which one fills up for that. It ssound like you have any bias towards that?. I don't. In fact, like Hank, would you would anybody accuse me of being pro patriots The football, the Patriots being good does not affect the team that you root for. The Eagles being good does affect the team that you root for. I think I think I think Super Bowl Max. I don't think about like, oh the division but. you think it's Oh ye gu Yeah. I think Super Bowl This guy And who is this guy who is Super Bowl Wh who is Sper for this Washington C commander? Who' a Super Bowl last year, Max The Patriots right? So therefore, the Patriots might be more of a threat for me winning Super Bowl. True. So I hate to admit it, but I think that the rich get richer. I guess the question I would have for you Max in determining who won this trade in a perfect world, Would you rather have AJ Brown On your team happ to be on your team, no drama or this That is a lot of hypothetical. I understand, but I'm just asking a lot of Im just asking because that is like that's not AJ Brown. Okay, but I'm just asking That's not AJ. Brown And we're not even talking about how the Rams were in on him Sul' medicals then went out. Oh now you weren't talking about that till now. Let, spepeak on it. Yeah. I mean, that's it. The r This m it was it was a two team a two team race for AJ Brown. Wow leading up to the draft The Rams were in on them So medical. What' the medical say Hipa, just me. N said Nay, he's got me Got one of them or two of them. Maybe even two That's I Im I still think that like AJ Brown will be good. He's going to be super motivated put mic. AJ Brown at least for the start of for the start of his tenure in New England will be a very good receiver. I to be very good for for Drake May I need to be very good for the next two years. Porrect. Yeah, right And then Then the Eagles get the pick. Well, no the two years would be twenty se partart of the pick. Yeah, the second year. Yeah the second year would be the pick two years would mean that you would get a bad year after you would get a bad first round pick. No, no, he'll still be good when you get Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So may then second then we get the we get the pick right as he's declining. No, no, you get the pick Yeah you got you get a thirty second pick if you don't get the pick when already decline. essentially get a second round. How he should have gotten the second round. Yeah, how he should have gotten the twenty nine pick Yeah. we're honestly,'re if we're nitpicking., that's really what how he messed up. This is a bad hur. Act a bad deal Um, Hank, what do you think about getting damaged goods though Yeah, did you hear about the medicals and the Rams The knee Yeah Not worried about the knee. Okay. Ay Brown said he is not worried about the knee. He's already at OTS today. he's catching one handed passes. it's just beautiful. Oh Motated. He might have been there before he signed It It does feel like he's been trying. I mean,' been there for months. Like He whoo is he going to compete with catches Like who's the number two now Mac Hes What about booty Booty Rome it's Romeo Dobs. Romeo Dobbs, yeah Romeo Dobbs, you will see, I mean, that's what they're doing OTAs for. Did you see who that is The clip of Romeo Dobbs over one in the in the softball game that Dave played. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. He just went like full on over the fence. like dude, you You have like seven thousand concussions. What are you doing a softball game? I saw somebody also tryed to take out Remondre Stevenson when that was school Oh man. Yeah, Matt Rife. Matt Rife tried to take him out. Oh it was. Yeah. doing some crowd workork on you. Oh man Okay, that's that's it's good to talk NFL. we've got some NFL news. I did miss the I miss talking football with you guys. I know. It's just it gets you When the Miles Gart trade broke I just said football in the chat. football was so That All right. so official It should have been football is back to start to start the show. Yeah. official word, I think I'm going to give Hank Hank won the Patriots won this trade The other one, no bias. The other one's toss up I think it was win win. Yep. Is that the official PMT grade win win and you're just this is your grade. Youre you just started speaking and said is this the gu is why I asked the question, Max. But you didn't ask anyone else. You just said, hereere's my grade. Is this the official pick win hold on. hold on hold on. Yeah. I think the official grade is Browns. U RAams is a win win Patriots, eagles, No, no. Patriots win and then asterisks, if how he had gotten the twenty twenty nine first round pick, it would have been a win for the Eagles Now I'm talking myself in a lose lose That was how hiss mistake Sh have time DJ Browns declineed better. It actually It makes sense when you think about it. Yeah It does. I think he's going to be he's going to he and he turns twenty nine in this month. PFT will let us know if it happens Absolutely not. And then and then yeah, I mean, he's going to be on the wrong side of thirty next year and then he is going to be good he's a very good receiver. So he's going to be good for a couple more years and then we'll see how he ages because of everything that's also gone on. If you're The Pageries you're probably saying, hey, he had no problems in Tennessee with Mike Rel as a coach. That's true. So Um, Okaykay, any other Any other news before we talk,s let's do a pick on the NBA finals for the people And then we'll give our official predictions for the NBA finals. Draft kings, we're going to do a parlay in the drafs sportsrouk. The NBA finals are in full swing and the intensity isn't letting up. Well trafficking, sports bking officials sports betting partner the NBA, your winnings get a boost every single day, all finals long player props Bet live from the opening tip to the final possession Every bucket every dime, every clutch takeover matters and only Draft King' sports but keeps boosting you all the way through. 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See terms at sportsbook dot draft Kings dot com slash promos Bys Parlay to kick it off Fortunately, they don't have What are you looking for? Jaanen Brunson. Ohope Okay, hater the year. Hey, not available. What number is he You don't want to don't do that I didn't mean to do that. Don't do that. I did not In fact, I don't think that we should say that number. We should retire that number We can't talk about stranger things.ope Don't do that. See AJ Brown chang his number? Give me three point What? He went from eleven to one Hmm. So like you could hypothetically change your numbers. That's kind of awesome that he went to number one. Yeah, I love that. Give me Luke Cornet three plus rebounds Okay It's sexy. You could take Victor Weminyama versus Jayalen Brown points head to head. actuallyually I't know if you can J Brown or I'll take I'll take Wbs. Jalen Brownson. All right, so Luke Cornett put it in. Luke Cornett three rebounds. What are you taking? fififty trying to look at the I try to look at threerees. okay re Do we w want to make it juicy? Do you guys wantan to make it juicy or no? Would you like to make a ju? I want I want Josh Hart. ree plus three pointers. Oh, I was going to take them fifteen points. So there we go. Okay Um I wish I could been on Steph Castle. Fowls He's going he's going he's going to be a dog in this series. He's going to be an absolute dog Okay. You know what? let's go. with Tell me if you like this memes or Zach Let's go with Miale Bridges fifteen points. Like it Memmes love. Lve. Should we go eighteen points? twenty. Go eighteen points eighteen. And we'll put that in the drafting sports book, go bet it with us U boys. MBA finals. we want to make our predictions. We talk a little bit with Kurt Goldsberury, but u Should we make let me start with this. Zach and Memes, are you guys a little bit nervous? You have now two things going against you One, did you see the random fan picked exact every single series correctly and he has sppurs over Nicks Did you see it? That one worries me. He tweeted it before the the playoffs start. He said, I know ball And it's literally every single round he's gotten right. That worries you. What about the cororgi No because Max said the cour he picked the sixixers. I You could have been wrong on that. Okay you got to find out And we are superstitious. This is a breakdown that we're doing. We're going to have an actual talk with Kurk Goldsberury, but this is a part of my take breakdown when what a Corgi does withith inflatable basketball is way more important thenen advanced analytics and shot charts and Weembbe and Jayalen Brunson, it's the cororgi. So yeah, Oklahoma City fans were eeting at me that you better open that core you fucuckking picks you. Oh no. So this Corgi's been hot. The Cgi's been real hot Okay. he picked the Nicks over He definitely picked the sixixers because Visit Phily says what a good boy So That. Okay. so I was right. I just didn't want to be wrong and then We're good So the dog has been wrong. The dog has been wrong aboutb the Ns Was the dog right about the cal's nicks Its important This is highly important. What is what's your official pick? Hank? Spurers in six. In six. And any reasoning behind it U I don't want the Knicks to win. o. ome that's some reasoning. that is that qualifies a reason. I think the sppurs have to win the first two games though. I think that they have to go up to nothing and then they can get it done. I think if they have to come back again in another series, it's going to be maybe too much of an uphill battle. so Game one and game two, very important. And yeah, then it's just a race. you know, next year, it'll be Celtics, Spurs, Thunder a race to see who the best Best team in the league is. Okay. meams I agreed with everything you saying until what he said last but. If the next flip homeomect advantage they're win in the finals I think they're going to win in six Okay, I have Nixon six as wellong have Nixon seven. Who? I think I think we're going to get a game seven. I think that Adam Silver is djeruring his David Stern era he's making sure that these things happen See, that's I'm making the same thoughtought process, but He's going to make sure the next win at home Okay, so that's kind of like the same Theory as the frozen envelope. justust like Do big market a solid like Yeah, the crowd and everything will be it willll be the highest watch NBA game in a long time. Yeah. I think I got Nixon seven. I think it's going to be a great series And I think they figure out ways to get Wimby in foul trouble. That's what I think happens Max Nxt in five Wow Zach. I think he' be nextix and six. Okay So Zach and memes, you guys agree. Adorable That's nice. Can you look at each other when you agree? No. you won't even look at them Okay Can't do it. Oh we forgot to say that Oh no Beckham is back O the giants. Well the giants, they got like three Yeah Ju J. I so they got Juju and then Braackson Barios. Oh as well. So the giants are loading up ood for the giants. And then can you explain to me where we're at with the Bearest stadium thing? Is it Are they officially going Is Sig just dominating the transfer portal so much that he's taking stadiums from Chicago Illinois guys are going to Indiana? It is so frustrating and so stupid. There blame to go around to every single piece of this entire debacle U, I guess I would say I think if I went blame like power ranking the blame I'd say Kevin Warren w just because Before Kevin Warren was hired, The bears had purchased Arlington Heights They were ready to build an Arlington Heights. We heard that shovels were in the ground or going to be in the ground. Three years ago It has gone sideways since then Illinois politicians because there's I listen, I'm not going to get into the politics of it, but it does seem like there's weird stuff like they want them to pay more taxes. I don't really understand that part A The McCaskies is as a as a family running the bears because they are incompetent to do it themselves. so they hire someone like Kevin Warren Um, Indiana for offering like a ton of free stuff? I don't blame Indiana. No, I don't either but I'm just throwing I'm just I'm just going down the chart Aer. Um see Chicago for not just giving them Soldier field, but then and then the NFL. the NFL is also to blame because the NFL is the one who probably has put a lot of pressure on the McCaskys to get a new stadium so that everyone's franchise Yeah prices go up It's essentially to boil it down The biggest losers in all this as always when it comes to stadiums is the fans. That's really what it comes down to. Yeah, it's going to suck. I do think that there's a chance there's this like special commission. The hardest part to figure out is whether Indiana is like a bluff. Idiot is either a bluff or it's a bluff that's gone too far and now it's real And it's which would actually be the best bluff possible. cororrect. whichich That's what happened with the caps is like they had they had a groundbreaking ceremony You had politicians like the Governor of Virginia wearing a hard hat, like cutting ribbons. They were holding you had a bunch of politicians holding shovels Yeah And like two days later like DC just called we're going back. likeike this could be actually the best bluff possible If you do the groundbreaking ceremony And then Chicago's like, come on back. We'll give you we'll give you everything you asked for in Arlington Heights and more. PFT, the bears purchased Arlington Heights for like two hundred million dollars in twenty twenty three three years ago. And there's no the deal they've own this property and it's just It's crazy. The deal is I guess Kevin Warren was hired somewhere around there. so maybe it's the Either way they were ready to buy Arlington Heights for a couple years before Kevin Warrenur. And if you move the bears there, the deal is they don't have to pay property tax. I don't is something like that. It's all Fans shouldn't have to worry about this shit. It's so stupid. And it's like it's so frustrating incompetence on every level. everyone deserves blame And I do think Kevin Warren has somehow bungled this whole thing because he's the one who's who's supposed to be He was the one who was hired to seamlessly get this done And nothing has gone seamless. So how could you ever come to the conclusion? I know that people want to blame the politicians. I do too, but how could you ever point your finger at anyone other than Kevin Warren first because it was literally his job to do this and it's become such a disaster? Yeah. So I hope they end up staying in Illinois, evenven though that like to drive from Chicago to get to Indiana Depending on traffic That might even be closer, right than driving to Arlington Height. Yeah. The bears should just play in Illinois. They should not play in Indiana. That makes playing in Chicago. Stadium should be in the cities like it would be, you know It's so stupid. I saw it like and then there's all these theories and deep theories that like Hammond is actually what the politicians in Chicago want because more people will stay in hotels downtown than if it was Arlington Heights and like it's just The whole thing is just really, really fucking stupid and I wish it wasn't. It's very funny that the bears finally figured out the football side by hiring Ben Johnson and business side continues to be a complete joke. I do think that there's something Maybe a small thing to do with like the location of the stadium for free agents because A lot of guys if they play at a stadium that's out in the middle of nowhere on game day, then it can take them like after the gamees over two hours, hour and half to get home. Listen and that that just like kind of sucks if that's where you go to work. I don't know what they do with House Hall. They just made renovation on House Hall. House Hall to Hammond is not close. No everyveryone's talking about Chicago to Hammond, which is close. It's twenty five, thirty minutes. but Yeah, if you're most bears players or almost all bears players live up by Hallouse Hall, which is the north suburb. so It's it's a shit show. I still think if I had to go gun to my head, I still think there's a special meeting or whatever happens in the middle of the summer And they're like, all right, enough of this shit Aington Heights. And I also think there's a chance that maybe they just fire Kevin Warren and then McCasky's like, hey, we're leaving Illinois. let's figure this out. and it gets figured out, whichich would be nice. Okay Sh we do hot se, cool throne A Suhati cool throne And then we got two great interviews. Hank. Hotsy cult Tron my hot seat is You guys, dont no Geez Why Uh Fx sports. I no know. colleagues, I guess, official legitate news outlet, O partners We did an Instagram reel talking about Gillette as a host city for the World Cup and what the town and stadium has to offer And they said that it has the jail world's largest lighthouse. Oh, that's bullshit. That's interesting. fake news Interesting. You're calling Fox newews fake news. I would never say that. You just you literally just say that. You just did just this sounds like an example of fake news from Fox Sports, which is a different company. Listen is big Fx Fox sports. I I'm on the record That's Yeah, we don't know that. I don't know. We don't know them. I go by the standards of the U.S. Coast Guard when it comes to lighthouses. Now you might hate the troops. I don't. I respect the troops and I respect everything that they put in terms qualifications for a lighthouse. What counts, what doesn't count. And to them, this lighthouse is not a lighthouse. So if you Well, they're letting don't respect Pe people are coming from That's all over the world Gillette for the World Cup and they're going actually no, they're not I. that's that's also false because they're not going to Gillette because the stadiums won't have their sponsor names for the World Cup Th're going to Foxborough Stadi They're going to it basically with the place with the largest lighthouse in the continental US. Hank, what do you think is going to happen when fans from Brazil? Brazil is the country with the second most lighthouses in the world They come Foxburg And they see that lighthouse and they're like, this is it Where's the where's the ocean If they get on top, they can see it. Where they can't? Yeah, they can. No they can Oh the ribversary? The river Yeah. Yeah. We put was it called again I forget. because you didn't do the presentation. I did do the presentation. No you didnt. You had someone do it for. No, I fucking did that presentation. No you read the presentation that somebody else did. I would remember it. one hundred percent did that presentation It was two years ago. And it was a federally recognized body of water it was No No, it wasn't. I no you can't see it Okay So we're on the hot seyface. Are World Cup tickets tanking? I saw something about that. Also the schedule, someome of them is psychotic. It's crazy. Yeah. someome of them are tanking a little bit. some Europeans aren on the hot sef for being bitches. Yeah, Europeans don't want to come over and pay They're No, they're mad about the times. They're mad about the times Oh why don't talk about that. Yeah. I. I know. I E every other World Cup it's on your watch. Not one's on ours. Yeah Hey, Europeans, whyy don't you shut the fuck up? We gott to watch Jaguars Panthers at eight thirty in the morning. Yes, nice th It's Not nice. Take your dolphins giants and be happy with it W, but the schedule is psychotic, is it not? Like I saw some of it and it's It looked like there's days Like to start the tournament, there's a game at three o'clock, then there's a game at ten o'clock. Oh Easter time then three and nine Be it's in all the different time zones. across the United States. G. Yeah. But then then there's a bunch of days where the games are all day You those first days or not. This is going to be a shitload of soccer. And I so here's here's the plan that I'm going to do for all the opening round games and you guys are welcome to join me on my b betting journey. I'm going to bet a draw for every single game And you can usually get decent odds And there's always crazy draws in the opening groups where you have like really good teams that have just like a brain for or let down spot against a team that has no business even scoring a goal against them I'm going to better draw every game in group stage. I'm in for a round Robin Okay. Yeah, we' round Robin. Yeah. ye. ye. Okay now can we do that Yeah with round Robin need to be Like just one per day? No no, you can do it in advance Okay Yeah We'll have our best guy get on. Yeah, We'll see how many we can do Round robbing t. You can only obviously do the like the first games because the second games won't be listed because you don't know who's going to get like yellow cards or red cards and No no get injred. Yeah. Yeah, rightight. And they probably might not have lines for yeah, the second games right they might they actually might have them How many first round games are Yeah we're going to do it. Well I'm in. I'm one hundred percent. forty eight team. so whatever that is. That's too much math. Yeah. Also hot seed hot seed For me for Thursday morning, we just said on FS one, one of the guests is going to be Greg Berhalter I've said a lot of things about Greg. Just say it to his face. I've said a lot of things about Greg. Say it to his face. Nice guy sayay, you know, just say, Hey, I've said a lot of things about you. I'm going to address one of them. Why do you have three G's? Yeah. J just leave it at that. It's a good way to handle it Okay, you're cooler My c throne is Texas Te softball. Yeah. J willill advced last night. they had they needed to beat Holy fuck Alabama. Alabama. I was about say Tennessee. You were locked in.at. I did watch I watch the second game. I didn't I saw Did you watch it from out on your balcony? Mia Williams, I did not. Did your blinds get fixed? They did. Nice. Yeah. because sometimes you like to step out in the balcon No Yeah, was I said that by the way on the act, but I It was like three days before I realized that Jason Williams wasn't reading books. He was smoking weed. Yeah. Oh wow. real. Well, he kind of blew him his spot when he said, I'm going to the library and it was the most weed I've ever seen in my life. Reading a book. He's reading books. Justs like when Hank says I got to go for a walk with my cousins. I feel so dumb. I was like, Oh, he's just he's like, Yeahah, I need a hotel room with a balcony because I like to read Moron and Tate like every other tweet being like J Will iss going to read a book. Yeah. J Will bought two tickets to to the game on Monday night so that he could leave in between games to read a book. Dumb, dumb dum But his daughter they were Alabama like they were coming out of the loser's bracket. Mia Mia Williams. They were coming out of losers's bracket so they had to beat Alabama twice in a row Mil Williams hit a walk off home run in game one is when I I started watching, I watch the whole second game. Nail biter I was and they're going to the World Series. it's a great, great sports story and and college softball ising. Yeah. I was wondering because I'm sure maybe it's happened before, but there was a chance Like has anyone ever gone back to back home runs themselves Because Mia Williams hit a walk off home run and then she was the first batter in the second game. She got a single. Yeah. But like I was I was sitting there being like, am I about to see history Back to back personal home runs That's That would be awesome. It would be so sick. Hank, you've said a lot of things about your own confidence and your own athletic ability. Do you think that you could step in and get a hit off of a women's college softball pitcher Now I mean, it depends how many at bats, but Probably not I mean, it's fielders, I I can make contact with the ball at some point. I don't think I can after watching them the rise the risers That's tough. It's they're very, very impressive.n swing hard. Yeah, why doing softball. You just trying to make contact with sixteenange slow pitch. Do you think Mia, do you think she swings hard or do you think she just lets the back do the wor first Can we not canan we not we already have ack of memes can we not the pugs play in the playoffs tonight? Let's Maybe not Hank because Hank's getting dental surgery. Yeah. Let's not to. No be good Okay playoffs. What's going on? I was trying to He was trying to get the swing hard thing I just didn't know if Mia when she was swinging if she swung hard to hit home runs I'm trying to find this. Its talk about me. This is hard. I don't think it's ever I mean, it would be hard. What are you trying to find has has it only could happen Yeah if they know w. Well, no, it can't happen in Major League baseball Because you don't play a double header where you sw home in away She literally hit a walk off home run. by the way the Why switch home away say not No, you don't switch home and away. they switched home away. So they playang in the same day Yes in the same Max, she hit a walk off home run against Alabama in game one. It was double elimination for Alabama. It was single elimination for Texas tech because the Tex te already lost. I get all this. All right. So Texas teech Mia Williams game one hits a walk off home run The next game, Alabama is now the home team. Mia Williams is the first batter in the second game. She gets up to the plate. If she hits a home run, she is just hitting back to back home runs herself I don't understand why you couldn't do that in like if you finish a series against one team and then you play in MLB you if you're if you're playing If you're playing not the same day. I'm not say you could you could Yeah still do it and I was just trying to find that Yeah if you finished the series, moved on to the next round. Yeah and yes, it would be possible. Yes. But this was literally like thirty days apart. Same day impossible impossible to find. I still think I could I could find a leader I still think I could find This is a very dumb debate, but I actually enjoy it. Max, you know, the only MLB ball player to hit a grand slam twice in the same inning Till Miller R Jackese? No, Tatis, for name of. Tatis. is prettyt crazy. She on a must p I did find that Mike Cameron and Brent Boone backack to back home runs twice in the same inning. Those are Two different guys, but also crazy. Also also Al cra I mean, yeah, we're talking crazy stat. Yeah, those crazy stat? Yeah C pretty crazy. All right your hot seat, PFT Um My hot seat is Lu Kan because I'm back in the internet invitational. Yeah. and I'm excited to be there. I've got I've got something that I've got planned. I'm going to try to harness science a little bit of Bryson to Chambau U I think I've found an edge when it comes to golf So more to come on that later, but Humbled to be invited back, four million dollars is crazy crazy amount to golf for us, especially somebody my poor playing ability to even be in that conversation U but I'm excited about it. I'm excited about it. I hope I get matched up against Luke Kuan this time. Oh I hope you can match up with Luke Kuan again. Either way. Reddemption would be great. We might just become bros. If you just slept in I would. I would fuck That's the thing is I would sleep in and then he would just dominate. No, no. that would be the best story. you sleep in. And then you show up late. And then you save them. where I talk shit to him. Yeah. I make him suck and then I come in But he's down and then you come up you show up and you save his ass. You hit a hole in one. Yeah, either way, excited about the prospect of getting back at it again. So I've got to I got to get back in the lab. We're going to be working. And this is going to be a sports science thing. I do think that I've found an edge. and I have to keep it quiet until we really know we get a little bit closer so that no people can replicate what I'm trying to study But once we get there, I think sky's limit. As listen, I love where headad's at as someone who's think thinks they've found an edge. trillion times when it comes to sports gambling. Yeah, you got to follow that lead. Yeah. You got you got to you got to go to the end of the road If you think you got an edge, you got to fucking find out all the way. Listen, has it never worked out? No, it doesn't matter find that edge because the next edge the next edge is one that you'll find. But also with this edge Like in golf, if you think that you have an edge. Oh yeah, you have an edge. Deinitely. definitely. You definitely have an edge. Okay My cool throne is Dylan Brooks Dylan Brooks on the cool throne. Also you could say maybe LeBron on the hot seat U because Dylan Brooks just posted that he got his pilot's license. Oh. He just graduated from flight school. didid not know that he was studying to become a pilot U, but I could I could see a world where Dylan Brooks like goes undercover working for a private jet company just to find out what company flies the Lakers around whatever team LeBron's on next year And then he just fucks with LeBron as his pilot next year. So I had no idea that Dylan Brooks even was thinking about studying that. But if you got onto a plane and Dylan Brooks is your pilot Are you feeling confident that plane? Nope I'm probably not feeling super confident about No P not. Yeah like you don't want Haters should not be pilots. No pilots should be above Be c's biggest h they should not hate anybody. Calm dudes. Yeah, like to a fault. Okay, my hot seat is us, the viewers because Russell Wilson is going to be on the CBS desk Mhm And I'm just going to miss him playing football. That's really what I was trying to say it's a better sport when he's out there. Throw that moonball How do you guys think he's gonna do Ball family How do we think he's going to do? I think he'll be okay Bourny Courney's okay though I don't mind a corny guy. Can he make fun of himself? That will be the big question. If he can, maybe he'll be okay That's he's got to. he's got to have someone in his ear being like, He hey dude Miss are Unlimited. uh, like, you know Everything is perfect. the high nineties Let's just Cool with some of that. and be like make fun of ourselves, crack a couple of jokes, laugh at things Th then he, I mean he's well spoken like that could work If he is Not able to do that. I don't know how long I think I think he'll be okay. He is he's shown an ability to Like study what works and then change things. about himself But that's the whole point. It's like he's he's like almost robotic in that way The true sense of like breaking being a robot is being able to make fun of yourself. Yeah I don't know. My cool throne is not only college softball, but college baseball too. I don't know if you guys saw the game in West Virginia last night, but it was electric. The country roads was electric It's been awesome to watch all of it and I've just enjoyed the hell out of it And then while we've had that, Uh we had the u College football playoff schedule get officially announced and it fucking sucks. It sucks. I hate that they're doing this Do guys want to guess when the national Championship game will be played If haven'ten don you've seen, don't answer I have not seen it. I would guess january eighteenth. Okay february thirteenth. No, stop Pank. You're being silly You've been silly. You was silly of you january twenty fourth. That was silly. Max almost got it.. was So I was basically equidistant to PFT. January twenty fifth Oy January twenty fifth. Damn, happppy birthday. Dan You knew wasn't February twelve days off. But you knew wasn't in February fifteen. I didn't. No. No you were you were sixtyre nineteen're nineteen nineteen days off You knew it wasn' in February. I did not. Fbruary thirteenth I think is yes the days pretty close to February Yeah, but february thirteenth isn't pretty close to february first K of less than half. Yeah. so the first round. so january twenty fifth is the national championship game. The first round is taking place over a month Frior. december eighteenth is the first game That is so fucking stupid I hate that they've done this. It is that's that's bad. It's so bad. It's bad. I don't know what the fix is to it I move the schedule up a little bit. But can you even do that? Why not I start in August I should do double elimination games like softball Back to backs, double headers That'd be sick. wonder if anyone has ever scored a back to back touchdown C you look that up, Max? What if they had just every team? We Hold on Oh keep going sorry. if you what if youve got twelve teams just at the same venue And then they just keep You do it like the the sun belt basketball style. where you have the worst two teams play, winner stays on. I like that. That would be a cool football tournament All right, so S Bowl is Sunday, february fourteenth this year So okay. so we'll be will be after the divisional round. I think that was what it was this year as well. There'll be before NFL teams left when we do a national championshipam That That's really stupid. That's really I don't like that Zach finishes off My heot seat this week is going to be America I don't know if you guys have seen, but we're creeping up onto USC two hundred fifty. Yeah. We're doing a fight club at the White House The renderings and like the buildout looks pretty impressive But I do have to put them in the hot seat this week just because we're going to be having a cage fight at the White House And I think that person should have to become president. Oh, I love that. The winner. Yeah, that we're doing a it's a cage fight at the White House. You would think if they get you get elected on spot. If you you're exactly right in the fact that if you had told someone like ten years ago, like, hey, United States two hundred fifty, we're going to do a cage fight at the White House that's televised to the whole country. Your next thought would be That's deciding the president They would then run the country. Right. And that's just not how they're doing it. I would be completely fine with that What who's who's fighting? Yeah, is it a good card? I don't think that it is, right? toapuran then just en Gagei. So. That's the main event. Okay My concern with this and I've heard I've heard Dana White talk about this on a couple podcasts, but being from DC I can tell you that late June, mid to late June. Oh it's be hot. Outdoors. It doesn't matter if it's at nighttime. it's going to be ninety degrees. It's going to be ninety percent humidity and you're going to get nats buzzing around your head. You're going to there's going to be these annoying ass bugs everywhere because you're on a swamp Guys are going to be getting kicked in the head with bugs swarming up their nostrils It is going to be I think it's a bad idea. I think Joe Rogan has said like this is a bad idea. I'm not looking forward to it It seems like this fight could have taken place indoors somewhere Theyreed. What are guys' thoughts on leaving the the buildout up and then future conflicts, we settle them in the Octagon. You like Netanyahu's coming to visit? Yes. step in Okay Yeah think. I got I'm been in a jod right here. He walks out, his music plays glass break I'd be down for that. Yeah. or you get, you know what actually This would probably break all celebrity fight numbers if we had Don Juni. and Hunter Biden Hm Cage fighting Winner becomes next president. That'd be cool That'd be cool. You think that's headgeear or no headgeear? No headgeear and also you could not do drug testingair You can grab cocks. Everybody's bounced. ye By the way, PFT happy early birthday on Championship Sunday Oh, thank you. I was looking at the schedule for the Sper Bowl Championship Sunday would be your birthday. Happy early birthday to you on Championship Eve. Thank you. Appreciate that. the NFL. appreciate that. Cool thong. my quter this week is going to theor Cu We had another global moment for the Wor Cup yesterday. I don't know if you guys were able to see un But they dropped there's a there's a song dropped online. Oh The unity of this notot only for country here but really globally. And that's like a big thing for the World Cup is having like one anthem. Yeah musicnds language. So what is it? I've heard sure we can't play it for copyright reasons, but play it so they can see it. I used to I used to absolutely love that the waving flag song. Yeah. That was a banger. Yeah yeah South Africa And the Shiakia ones You call me freedom just like a wave and flag A wave and flag and then. You gott to really hit that L and flag. Yeah ye, especially this month. I will say the only downside this song. as much of Uzailas as you would think, but Well, yeah, we don't Voovazillas That's not aor Cup in' South Africa. It's calledld Champ. Oh, you're saying the song, the Wor Cup song from South Arica. I want to hear I want to hear the new. That was a good song S play the new anland? The new an play it but cut it.kay Where you're there. No, that's a wave in flight This one speed Post Oh fuck you. It does happen to be by speed, but I' talking my unity in the World Cup. I fell for that one. I thought this was fake. So it's a beautiful thing, a lot of unity going on going into the World Cup shows. some these are big in the sport And some sports bring everything together I feel tricked But hey, what are you gonna do couple guys me. Mmes Miams is a good trick. I'm I'm starting to understand everything you've been saying today. Miams is coming back? Not sure. Not sure. I'm getting exact. Eact, I was a joke, I love you Ah All right guys too. All right, we're gonna do Mmes. didid you hear that? He loves all of us Okay, we're going to do Kirk Goldsberury. Then we have Luke Laus, the FSU head coach and guess what? We're going to do new lottery balls at the end. So you've already heard the ones we already did, but we're going to do it again at the end. so we'll see how that goes. But let's get to Kirk Goldsbury. Okay before we get to our good friend, Kirk Goldsbury talking to NBA finals Races, nothing Beat summer break when you were a kid It was time off from school and sad school lunches, but you don't get summer break as a grown upp and that's a huge bummer. The good news is You can at least take a break from Sad work lunches this summer with Reese's limited edition cups and the return of the Reese's strawberry TBNJ plus the all new Reese's marshmallow Cup. My personal favorite had it brought it home U kids were like, oh my gosh, this is the greatest thing ever. The Reese's marshmallow cup. So so good. So both taste just like your childhood and my kids childhood. so grab one before they're gone because they're fleeting just like your youth Go right now. Race is the official candy partner Barcel sports Get yours at wWW. Hersheyland C slash Reeses. Okay, here he is, Kirk Goldsbury. Okay, we now welcome on a very, very, very, very special guest, our good friend Kirk Goldsbury talking NBA finals at Cook Great to have you on I don't even know it good. I don't even know where to start. We're so excited. This feels like The fininals that probably has the most juice in a long time. You know what? let's start with Weemby Your guy Weemby canan you tell us the stat because I've I've butchered it and I've said it. I've repeated it to everyone in earshot for the last like three weeks. Can you tell us the Wemby stat that you have about his on off when it comes to defense and what he does to other teams. Yeah, he essentially turns really good offenses into terrible offenses and he does it a few different ways. But yeah, like in these playoffs when he's on the court, the opponents have a offensive radio of ninety nine point two for those of you who don't know what that means. It means your team can't score for shit. It would be the worst offense in the NBA So it's not like he's playing bad teams. He's done this to Minnesota, OKC and Portland so far U But when we came into the league, bigig cat, we were like, this guy is going to be the best defender of his generation. and he already is. It's incredible and it's not just the blocks. A lot of people in Oh, blocks and steals and rebounds. No, like It's a lot of invisible stuff that he does that just deter shots, make guys make passes they wouldn't normally make and retreat U but ultimately just means the O tein doesn't score very well. Have you been able to track the I've heard it referred to online as the nope U whereere a guy will drive the lane and then see Weemy and immediately say Nope and just turn around or or kick it out and be like I'm not doing this because That feels like that happens multiple times a game and that's like a hidden stat that won't show up on the box score, but it's clearly affecting the other team and how they want to run offense Yeah, those U turns. I've heard people call U turns. It's really fun when you see it in person because these dudes are making business decisions. They go in there and they They veer off course. With SGA it was really profound though, Big cat because like he averaged over nine dunks in layup attempted per one hundred possessions all season long. It's one of the big parts of his game. and the Western fininals was like four Um, so you just see dudes they don't go to the rim as much That's the easiest way to see it. And with this series Will Jayalen Brunson be able to get to his favorite spots, like those old man spots, those little twelve foot pull ups and the paint that he's so great at Those are a lot easier to get to when there's not a seven five guy who's twenty two years old jumping and stretching out in front of you Kirk, first of all, love the hat, really good logo. loveove the guy that just reps the league. I know along the same lines of these Wimby stats. Have has there been a point where you can quantify any of the other stuff that he's doing defensively that might not show up like any new, there's the nope, there's the turnaround, but is there like a way that you can quantify the percentage of blocks that he keeps in play as opposed to deflecting out of bounds and whether or not that's actually like better or worse than league average Yeah, so I talked to the team about that exact thing PFT and was They didn't give me a specific numb. They said, hey, just know that we recover a lot of those block shots at a higher rate than a typical block shot. So if you can imagine a block shot swatting it out of the crowd, swatting it out of bounds, swatting it to an opponent. Spurs are able to control those at a higher rate than you expect. iss a really astute point because some of his blocks turn into fast breaks at a higher rate if that's the case. So Yeah. any way you shake it, this guy is clearly the biggest sort of rising star in pro basketball and to Big cats first point Madison Square Garden, Victor Weminyama. this is an incredible finals for the NBA. This is going to be awesome U the city you guys used to record in before you sold out went to Chicago. Yeah' going crazy. The big we move go to New York to Chicago left New York. Yeah. No I hear you. It is there's so much, so much buzz about this. I'm really excited to see what happens. From your perspective like Crunch in the numumbers has has there been a style of play or just a strategy overall that's been more successful than others at attacking Wimby You know, I think the best thing you can do is shoot threes. I mean, it's that basic and New York comes into the series PFT is the best three point shooting team in the playoffs. They're making almost exactly forty percent of their threes all playoffs long And that's what I'm really interested in this series is They can punish you with a five out offense, meaning all five dudes around the edges of the court and all of them shoot forty percent. Maybe Brunson's a little under there. Towns just made fifty percent. of his Threes in the Eastern finals, that kind of stretch big. I don't know if you guys know, this's Ched Homegrren wasn't that good in the previous series But Carl Anthony Towns is really going to challenge the Spurs in a new way because he's going to stretch the defense out Um, even Josh Hart, Landry Shammot, the role players can all punish the u the sppurs from the arc. U So that's really what a lot of people are zeroing in on and saying, Yeah, New York's got a chance because they can be really productive on offense without even coming inside the ark. Right. And that that's my big like I don't know if it's a hot take, but take before the series because I think the Kicks are going to win this series andm I'm basing it on And it's no no shot at thepurers has been incredible what they did. their game seven performance teams shouldn't do that when they're that young If you look at who they have played in this path, They have played teams that are limited offensively, whether it be by injury with OKC in the Minnesota Timber Rlls or the Blazers where it's not five guys that can all score. the Kicks as they currently are playing Everyone can score and it then makes it so that Wendby can't play that free safety role where you don't have a Lou doort that you can basically say go ahead and shoot all day. Yeah. You don't have some guys on the timimber Rlls you like we can live with those shots and you know, Rudyo Bear' not going to threaten us offensively. those type of things. Is that a crazy take on this on this series coming up No, a lot of people are picking the Kicks because they are just so they're such a deep team and and they're diverse We will see Wemby guarding Josh Hart a lot, which is it might sound crazy to some of your listeners, but they did that in the regular season. so that he can do what Zach Low, my colleague at the ringer calls that one man zone where he can sort of patrol. So they will dare Josh Hart the same way they dared Alex Caruso who made the shots for OKC and Lou Dord who didn't make the shots. They will try to put Wemy on the weakest shooter on the floor And that's going to be something really interesting to watch. If Josh Hart start making threes, that's going to put the sppurs in a tough position right away. And to your point, it might make the Kicks just unbeatable because the Kicks are the hottest offense in the league right now. Yeah. what happened in the last game one where they came out flat against the Cavaliers like I know we all watched it and we said like it just looks like they don't have the energy like like they were caught Still sleepwalking a little bit, but is there something that that happened in that game one that you think that a smart team like the Spurs might try to pounce on this game one? But they ran into game one, James Harden who' just a legendary playoff figure.ame one everybody talks about game six g donon't forget about game one. This guy comes out, especially in the first three quarters of a game one with Guns Blazon. So in all seriousness, the cabs are a good team. The cabs have Donovan Mitchell, they have Jared Allen Evan Moby. they they could score it And I think the Kicks were a little rusty. Again, I think they had swept the sixers and that that's another thing to watch PFT. So they did they did start that series A little rusty and a little slow and they had to have that epic comeback to win game one, right? Yeah our entire podcast bet on the Kicks in the first half. only half the hit win That was the only half that we had a group bet on for the entire show. that sucks. That was tough. Sorry for your loss. It's okay. Yeah. we got over it. But I think that's in all seriousness, I think there is that could happen again because they've been off for what since may twenty fifth. It's june second the series starts june third. So they're going to have over a week of rust on there again. And again, the sppurs are young dudes. This is one of the youngest cores. I think bigig Cat alluded to it earlier Uh They shouldn't be here, according to some experts. Yeah, but they they are fresh. They're ready to go. They are very confident And they're not rusty. So it'd be interesting to see if they have a similar sort of shortcoming against the sppurs in game one as they did with Cleveland. Yeah, it's the spurs it's not even according to exper dispersion beerss just according to the history of the NBA that you have to lose before you win. And I think that's what everyone expected for game seven in OKC and they're just so unafraid and hit so many big shots So we talked about Wemby Jalen Brunson has been phenomenal. I also feel like Jalen Brunson has reached a different level to where the ball isn't stopping as much and he's he's finding other guys and it's it's they've unlocked Cat, like you said What do you think the Spurs are going to do to try to stop Jayen Brunson Or is it maybe let Jalen Brunson score thirty five and make sure that no one else beats us No, I think they're going to I think he's going to be the top line on the whiteboard for Mitch Johnson, You know, what's in front of Mitch Johnson is the whiteboard. Sometimes behind Mitch Johnson. I heard you guys talking to Mike Brain. You got to prepare for that. But in terms of Jalen Brunson, no, that's the head of the snake. They're going after it and they're going to do exactly what they did SA Big cat, which is start with Stefan Castle who you guys remember from Ukon as a national champion. just like Jayalen Bronsson h, and this young man is an incredible Perimeter defender is a strong guard. He loves to stop defenders U He's a pain in the ass by himself and then you remember the leeague's ultimate lurker PFT lurking on sort of a four chand message board. good. You have Victor Wominyama lurking in the background all the time U So that's what they call area fifty one and San Antonio generally that was about the loobbs, you know, the Ali Oops But really area fifty one with the two Jersey numbers five and one is about this defensive thing that that Brunson's going to have to deal with. Not only do you have to get past Stefon Castle at the point of attack you have this monster behind you who is the best shot blocker and rim protector in the world. Yeah. And much like we you know, we talk about some of the emerging superstars and we love them while they're still coming up and then eventually we have to find something to nitpick about them like I remember when Steph Curry was breaking the sport of basketball until the until the nit pick about Steph Curry just became. you ruined the game. because you're so good at shooting. Is there one thing that we can do to nitpick Wimby's game? What is the one, what's the weakness that he has? Besides being orch. I got wiped. Yeah, goo ahead. Well, I'd say I'd like see him in the post more. I don't know if he's. I think that's going to come. Y'reah But it's also it's interesting watching him play because his he's seven five, but his center of gravity isn't like as low as this you know, I mean? like it's, it's high up there. So he can't He Hartenstein was able to push him around a little bit and this is obviously nitpicking. the Germans do that to the French. Yeah, but I think that's something that he will get a lot better at. But there are times when you could see him floating away from the basket on offense And maybe not being as engaged and being able to to dictate it for the Spurs offense. Yeah, two things. I think that's very a stid point B cat because I watched game seven with Chris Bos and he he was like, this guy needs moves. He needs moves U and I think it's fair to say he's twenty two. He'll get there like you're pointing out But if we're nitpicking, that's it. Like He comes he doesn't have a signature move yet. I don't know what it will be Um, but You would like to think a man with those physical gifts could get to the rim and punish people with a signature move, some drop steps, some half hook that he just develops over time Uh And to bigig Cat's point, he does get pushed around a little bit because he is so thin and his center of gravity so high That said on Saturday night, I was talking to a bunch of Spurs fans down here in Austin. I was like, guys, this is the nicest anybody's ever going to be to the Spurs. Like this this is The pushback will come if the spurs are winning over and over and over again. this is we just vanquish these guys sppurs were never cool during the last run These guys are cool. You just did the League of favor to your point, PFT feels like yeah, this pushback will come soon because people get bored with Wenby or be annoyed by him for one reason or another. That's why I almost wanted the Thunder to win the last series, even though I don't like watching them. Wh did you say that? That was actually a good point. You wanted another year Eend Yeah, extend our love for Wenby because I do love watching him play. I'm excited just like I could I could talk myself into rooting for either of these two teams. I know that's like a fence sitting position, but there's legitimately something fun to root for for the Nicks and for the sppurs. And I think, you know what? I'm just going to be like you're wearing that hat right now. I'm a fan of the I'm a fan of the NBA for the f Yes. I want seven eight Yeah I think that's such a great point I'm a Spurs guy. everybody knows that It is really just traumatic to root against this N phenomenon, this N team, this next fan base. I want that fan base to have a title so bad U these I think everybody they have a pretty high approval rating barring teams like Philadelphia and Boston, of course that will hate them forever. But these are really two special teams. And I think the NBA has hit the jackpot with his finals. And again, you can tell it in the ticket prices, you're going to see it in the TV ratings, you're going to see it in sort of the international coverage these finals. this is not OC versus Indiana. all due respect. that was an awesome finals too Um, but this is Prime timee With the with the Spurs guard rotation. I made a point I think going into the last series. I think that Dylan Harper is the maybe maybe not the best, but he should be starting. But now after watching more of I think that they've just got three starting caliber guards And the fact that they can move them in and out to do different things is such a huge asset that they have. So from your perspective, like what does each one do better than the other two. So Derren Fox is the vet. He was hurt to open the series and we really saw what he does so well in his absence. He controls the offense. He's not stupid. It's to fon Castle if you look back to the first two games of that OKC series he had eleven turnovers and then nine turnovers. And a lot of that was the absence of Der and Fox. As soon as Fox came back in after his ankle recovery, Suddenly those turnovers went down and the spurs started taking care of the basketball a lot better. That's That's what he's sort of grown up in the room, right? with these two other young bucks He's an all star player Uh And then the other two guys what they have in common is they are both two of the most ferocious attack guards already in the NBA One of the reasons people love Stfhan Castle and Dylan Harper is they say it to your face. They're not doing step back threes and stay in a way Stefan Castle in particular will bully a guy twoo feet in the paint Drop a shoulder, push them and then make a shot in his face. Dylan Harper is a little more crafty. Again, one of the more advanced finishing packages we've ever seen from a guard this age is footwork is immaculate. hisis use of the basketball is incredible. And when he elevates and starts going to the rim, he can he can yam it on your head, but he also has just an array of finishes with both hands at the rim and he's left handed too. So it evokes Manu Genobli for Spurs fans. this leftty coming off the bench and slashing through, but It's an embarrassment of riches, like you said Almost every team would start two of these guys and they have three of them. Yeah. and it it's really the reason they're here aside from Wendby and is under under talks about. But Dylan Harper is my favorite of them all. He's just so awesome to watch. Yeah. All right. so we talk about Weemby, we talk about Jayen Brunson If you had to pick a guy from each team where I told you they had the series of their life and then they end up winning like the X factactor guy, who would that be Let's start with Kat. Kat like he plays basketball like me, sometimes like just foul people. and I'm like, why did I do that? like Chris Farley smash my head with my hand.'s he's very frustrating to watch sometimes for Nicks fans because he just makes mental mistakes, particularly with fouls. and here's a stat for you The sppurs enter these finals with two of the three biggest foul drawers in the in the playoffs. Victor Webanyyama and Stefan Castle are two of the top three. They've both drawn over one hundred fouls and Kat comes in as the third most fouling player So you have two of these dudes who are just getting whistles all the time, and then you have Kat who is uncontrollable with these. He's got to If he cannot in foul trouble. And if he can stretch out the defense and make like five thes in game one and they steal it and he's getting rebounds and he's threatening, the Kicks are going to win this series. If Kat has the series of his life and is not getting in foul trouble, that's going to be really, really important. And so I think he would be my answer on the Kicks Yeah in in San Antonio, oney iss the obvious choice Deron Fox is getting better and stronger coming off of this injury with his ankle. He look really good in game seven. He had a three in the fourth quarter where he just was really bouncy for the first time all series and and it was a huge shot. And if he's able to bring That kind of transition competence and energy and again, those point guard skills and scoring twenty points, nineteen points, having seven assists Um If he has the series of his life then I think the sppurs are even better than they were against OKC because he was not that guy because that injury for that series. Yeah. Yeah. what about Mitchell Robinson and some of the some of the gamesmanship that goes into his play where you know, like you see him in the game Inant foul, that sort of thing. If you with a guy like that, Do you have to start making your free throws early to have a decent night at the line? orr if you have a bad free throw shooter is it a common thing to like just start off really ice cold and then eventually if you stay in there long enough, get enough reps, you start to bump that percentage up Yeah. he is one of the worst free throw shooters in the league, but I want to give him some flowers because back in Vegas, I went to the NBA Cup final in December And Mitch Robinson really won that game to beat the spurs in December in Vegas. How do he do it He is the best offensive reboundnder in the game when he gets going. He had ten offensive rebounds in eighteen minutes of play U, and the Spurs had no answer for in PFT. I would say if he's able to just be a menace and just like one of those high energy rebounding guys off the bench U The Kicks again have a great chance to win this series If he has to play too much because cats in foul trouble or if they rely on him for offensive production, they're going to be in trouble perfect in that role as an offensive rebounder. And if he's there late in quarters to your point, this bs are going to send him to the free throw line where he makes forty percent or less of his free throws and the math says that's the right thing to do U so you don't want to see him on the free throw line. And now the other big thing with him, obviously is he had pinky surgery last week right He had pinky surgery last week. So a lot of us are going to go to game one tomorrow and be like All right, all eyes on Mitch. Is he able to grab the basketball with that hand where he had surgery? I mean Peny is the smallest digit, but Proably important to grabbing lot of rebounds. Yeah, but also maybe he'll be a better shooter withith a broken pink. You know, this big cat taught me this dad. Do you remember do know what I'm about to say cutting off your pink? Yes you dude that pinky bat. Al the highlight of the for me Wait, okay, I'll come back to that Um Yeah, I think He had surgery. I don't know, Josh hurt hurt his wrist and then became a better three points shoer. You talked about that. Yeah last year two years ago on the show, but I hadn't been aware of that. But yeah, you brought that team. Yeah' who's your pinky team in the NFL this year The Rams? We gott to wait We got to win absolutely not Rams. We got to wait u till the team goes on to. Yeah, get do the Rams. We got this man up. No, hell, no. We're going to I mean, listen, if they start oing too, I'll have to think about it And then Aron Dona will somehow come back and I'll just be fucking screwed U what is OG going to guard Wemby, would you expect primarily Yeah. so OG has had great success on Victor Webinyama. I would see we're going to see three primary defenders on Wemy. He's one of them I think towns is the more conventional way to start And then obviously Mitch Robins, when he's in the game But OG Ananobi has a great combination of that sort of strength that can push him around He's a smarter defender than Kat. He won't commit those kinds of stupid fouls. So just by putting him on Wemby, that's less of a chance that Kat will be in foul trouble. And the numbers out of the twenty or twenty five guys that have defended Wemy the most in the last three years, none according to the player tracking system have been as effective as OGN and Oi at holding him down. Now a lot of that's in year one or year two bigig cat, but we're definitely going to see OG An and Oi is one of the best defenders in this league, defending the best player on the other team. Yeah. you have any insight as to what what information or or strategy Pop is providing the team? because we heard the reports that they talked to Wimby after a couple of the games in last series. Is he still very much in the mix or is he just show up like when Gotham needs him U he'll show up and give that little extra boost You know, that was pretty special. came in after one of the losses. and I think it was really impactful for the guys and for the coaching staff. And it is what a resource to have sort of this tenured professor this this retired professor come in and tell you how to win a conference finals or a finals game. I don't know exactly what he's going to say U, but it's just a great Trump card they have to play. with one of the one of the most successful coaches this league's ever seen sort of consulting in the background when they need it. Coach Eeritus or whatever that word is. Coach emmeritus. That's the word I was looking for. We've got we got two big Kicks fans on this pod. We got Zach and Memes. Do you guys have any questions for Kirk Zachy Memes You guys got' locked in on ball right now. Zach Memes. on cook how we doing today I'm doing well. How how you? I'm doing well, I'm doing good I was curious, you know, if this next team this year is able to get it done and beat the spurs and biiously, I will say I do think they will Where does this put Jyen Brs as far ass legacy? Like, will we see them hoist that number eleven jersey in the rafters When it's all said and done, like where do you think this is is a starting point or is it more of like the cement him Nix all time I think he's already a great nick all time for what he's done here getting them into the finals. I mean, we see how they treat Starks and Spreewell and Ewing and those guys never got over the top U But yeah, he would be the best Nick since obviously the seventies, which is most of our lifetime. all all of your guys's lifetime So this would, I don't even think he's prepared for how big of a celebrity in New York he would become if they win this. This is like Jeter He would be elevated to folklore status immediately. because this would be the most important championship in New York in a very, very long time for a fan base that's been starved. It's an excellent fan base And since they got Bronson in that incredible transaction He's transformed the vibes there, getting those Nova guys there and just You know, he's given this fan base something to be very excited about and now if they win it, dude, Yeah, in that Jeter category, I think. Yeah. their number eleven, retired forever. Yeah. forever Aabooy statues statues. Yeah gift baskets. U If M what do you say I don't have any questions. I like your hat. Where'd you get it U PFT sent it to me in the mail. with some Rowback that they always send me roowack when I come on the show. I'm always appreciative, but this one came with the the NBA hat Max, any questions? U No, sir. I'm looking forward to a good NBA finals. I went with the Zach. no, sir there. so Yeah. Yeah you don't have any questions about the matchups or anything? You're pumped. Ms you've been talking about the Kicks nonstop What's what's it means? What's the one thing in your head that you're like, I'm worried about this Honestly nothing. Okay. notothing at all. Wait wait, can I ask a question? Yeah reverse? Yes. Yes. How How do you expect the Kick to contain Victor Wemanyama on offense and on defense That's a good question. Good question. Hn't thought about that. Good quest. I'd run through every possible situation of the finals been had not thought about withama Yeah. It's a deep cut It's essentially Josh Hrges has to make his threes. Yeah. It's like the Alex Cruso role you mentioned Kirk Like there's to be guy open and he's got to hit him And that was the Cuso when Caruso was making those threes, they were winning those games. Yeah when they stopped falling it started to change real fast. I think that's fair, dude. if Josh Hart makes his threes, dude, that's a very impossible team to guard at that point. Yeah. All right. 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We have these incredible prints for sale of these for your dad or for yourself or for the dad in your life that that liked one of these championship teams. They do look awesome. All you you are the King of Father' Day presents from the maps to to all this stuff. like it's it's an a plus move to get your dad one of these things Now I appreciate that PFT and I know that bigig cat's a father of three and I hope he has a great father's day coming up too. My kids aren't buying me shit. I know. theseese are awesome maps. I'm looking at them right now. Yeah, they're the best. These are so sick Okay, thanks. I love. We'll send you guys some you seent me so much Rowback. I'll send you as many of those as you guys want U you can have them in the studio. So I got the address PFT sent it to me earlier. Oh yes. Kirk, when you're looking at the upcoming NBA draft. is is it clearly Bana going number one or no I think Taron Peterson's better.m I'm Boozer curious at number one, dude. And all the ners are. All the nerds are when you look at the draft models PFT that all the stats dudes are building at these NBA teams, Boozer comes up number one as do Kein love Yeah, do Kevin loveve maybe without the chin strap, maybe a little more in shape than Kay Lve was at that time in his career, but I love Kevin Love as a c He is sort of a boring double double machine. But that models really well. I think rebounds when people are scouting the draft, a lot of casuals underestimate like the less than glamorous are of the board So you would have him like rightite in the conversation for number one Samboos are curious. I said I said what I said. I think Darren Peterson AJ deemon it's fascinating in a way that it hasn't been in a minute. It's a little scary too. if you're picking a overall. It's like, you don't want to like this could be the Sambi You almost rather be the bulls just be like, I'll take whoever's left. I' still take the number one pink. but yeah, ye, yeah. no there is the blls are going to chosen for them Have you guys picked the finals Yeah, I think the Kicks are going to win in S. I've not made I have not disclosed my pick yet. What do you think, Kurk I My MBA preview will run on the ringer d. com today and I am picking the San Antonio Spurs seven games. but it was a tough pick to your earlier point at the beginning of the show We had the interview Um This is a really, really great series. And I'll be happy for my friends in New York if they win. but I'm picking the Spurs in seven a real great classic. series I just decide my pick. It's Nixon seven. I just think Nix Game six in MSG up three two. That's it right there You guys got to go back, man. You gott to be there. You got to be climbing the ch. I'm okay I'm o messing out on that O, you know, ten grand just to go watch the team that you don't root for. Yeah Wh not? Yeahah it J do it. All right, well, Kirk, you're the best man. We appreciate it. Everyone go check out your Kirk's NBA finals preview on the ringer and go to the Golden Hexacon and get some stuff for Father's Day. Thanks guys, G to see you. All right. Thanks Kirt Kurk Goldsberg is brought to you by our great friends over at Jose Cuervo when Cuervo entswers every moment just gets better You find yourself in the center of the dance floor, you can't help but stand up and high five those around you at the game And the room reacts like it just got the same text at the same time. You stop checking the time and suddenly small talk escalates to laughing so hard that you can barely catch your breath is the Cuervo effect, my friends? a signal that everybody understands, a moment that anyone can join, and a good time that just grows All you have to do is keep it quuervo He wass also brought to by her great friends of at Resus. They say everything happens for a reason, but I suspect everything happens for Rhes'. 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Yeah. it's just what I was born. You should change it. I'm thinking about it. What about changing it to just Lou So L O U and then last name like C L O U CKS. so it's Lou Klaouts. That's more comp. Kind of like the same thing. What about what about L U LO U so your Lulu Yeah, that could work. Coach Lulu. Yeah, that's good. So I got two older brothers and I went like my childhood, I was I was little Lx, little Loux That's even that's that's more complicated to pronounce And I had like a small speech impediment too as a child. It was like I had constant peanut butter in my mouth trying to pronounce my name. Yeah, it was tough. All right. D anyone ever say FS Lou Okay, maybe we can start that maybe that's hashtag. Yeah yeah. we can come up with something. Yeah, yeah. ye. So you're here, thank you for being here in studio. Yeah because when we've talked about on this show, we talked about on the Yak Flora State raised a banner after the twenty twenty season, the COVid season that said twenty twenty CoVid cancel season CVid and number four ranking Eesssentially being like, hey, we didn' do a tournament. we were the number fouram when the tournament would have happened. And The manner was up actually up in your arena for a couple years, then got taken down I am trying to collect as many weird like off the wall memorabilia pieces that I can get. and this was always something I was lusting after. I contacted someone at FSU And credit to you guys, you were like, yeah, we're never going to put this banner back up putut it somewhere where it's fun, we can have fun with it. We can make fun of ourselves And now we're going to be unveiling it in the barstool office and it will it will hang For as long as I'm here, it will hang. I just want you to know that long time. Yes. Yeah. and that's where to me because there was a little bit of pushback internally like we're making fun Yeah, I love making fun of ourselves. like everyone who who can't laugh at yourself. But also to celebrate that team man. and I know I know Florida State basketball hasn't had a ton of Unbelievable teams won the ACC Championship a couple of times, you know, back in seventy two, they lost in the championship to UCLA in that run, but there hasn't been a ton of teams that were at that level. So I kind of understand the weird way why they wanted to celebrate that team. That team was rolling as probably a final four team, but you can't you can't hang that band rightight L haven't win anything. Well and also we are going to celebrate them. that will be the celebration of them in and they are I really appreciate it because I think that like, you know, we've been doing this show for ten years now. and I think one of the reasons why we've been successful in doing this show is that Sports are supposed to be fun. spports are supposed to be, you know, there's serious parts of it. You want to win But at the end of the day, we're trying to entertain people and we're trying to have fun. And so having that ability to laugh at yourself, I appreciate the FSU staff. We went and visit you guys on Git Wek guys' so gracious. Some of the worst shooting of all time. Yeah. I don't know if you heard about that. I did. We were trying to do the around the world drill where we had hit five. from five different locations. none of us made it to the other corner. Yeah. So that's not apologies on that. That's okay. Yeah, we probably couldn't make your team. But yeah, this is going to be fun and it's and it's going to be fun to be able to have this banner forever No No question. I appreciate you guys reaching out and getting it done and just just have something flor state in this building. first of all, you guys have an adult playground in here. This building is incredible. This is like a child's but a grown man's dream. Yeah. everywhere you go it iss like, that makes sense. Yeah Yeah you guys did a phenomenal job. I didn't realize the scope of I follow a lot of your stuff and your podcast incred job But I didn't realize the scope of this building. Yeah. this is a sweet spot. giving me ideas for home. Yeah. My wife's gonna hate me. Yeah. ye. didid Brooks Kepka reach out or did anybody from Brooks's camp reach out after that interview? No, I was, you know, I was talking to the staff ' I got I got sent the clip like two hundred fifty times as soon as it came out And before I even went to my administration, which is probably a mistake on my part is like a rookie young coach. I just tweeted back. I'm like, yeah, let's do this. Yeah. And then, you know, Brooks, me and Brooks were the same class. we had we had an unbelievable class come through Florida state, a lot of different sports. Um, but none of his people reached out, but through that, you know, we caught up on it and he said it' pretty pretty cool that we're we're doing it. Yeah, let's talk about that team. Let's since we're going to be, you know, showing off the banner here, but let's talk about how good that team was and the guys on that team that that should be recognized. So in your opinion, like looking back and it, what do you remember the most about that team? Yeah. So I was coaching for a Golden state at the time. And I remember following that team like We actually got a chance. And I think the year before they went to the lead eights they already had some momentum, But first and foremost, Devin Vasll was unbelievable. He hit his prime. He was like an unhererald recruit. he wasn't ranked super high He came in his freshman year and was pretty good. and then that next year he took a huge jump ended up being a lottery pick, but that that team and then obviously Pat Williams, you know like ye, great great floora state player. great floristate great fl great player. Great, great fllorida state, great college player, great defender, but those two kind of Th then they had some older guys, you know, Trent Forest, Rake Juan Greay. I think they had four draft picks two lottery picks and two second round picks, Balsa big European. They were they were loaded for a college team. and that's why they had a good amount of like to me, the best college team, best basketball teams You have those like young guys that are your stars, but then you have old guys around them that support, you know, and that are the glue, the backbone and that team to me had it all. Yeah the only four in the country. Yeah. were four. D hung it. Yeah twenty six and five when COVID happened sixteen and five in the ACC or sixteen and four in the ACC excuse me Really, really good team So got it we gott to celebate. by the way I didn't tell you And I hope this this doesn't bother you. We but he was very cool I didn't tell you that I actually So when I when I get obsessed with something like this, it becomes a little unhealthy and it's like I just exhaust every resource possible I was able to actually get your athletic director's phone number and I texted him completely like cold call texting being like, Hey, it's bigig Cat from Barsto. I really want this an He actually responded. He's like, let me check on where it is and we'll try to get it to you.. So absolutely awesome, dude. I love it. like to have a random text like that, you're the AD of FU. You should have just you should just blocked my number and never responded to it. No. So Mike Glford, thank you for responding and I will never tell you how I got your number, but don't worry your secret safe. I'll never Yeah that is interesting. you track that down. I mean I mean, you're a powerful guy. You can get a phone number But I'll forever be grateful He gave me my first job. He took a swing on me. I mean I'm the youngest head coach in powerful basketball right now. And he took a gamble on me. And obviously there's a lot of connections from playing at Flora State, but he's a great dude and obviously has his hands full right now trying to help us turn turn, you know, football around, turn basketball around U But yeah, he's doing he's doing a great job. Let's talk about the the internship and how you decide to become a head coach and because you got off you picked a great place to start in Golden State. Yeah working on that staff is awesome. So how did you decide, okay, we're going to maybe cut the playing career a little bit short? It feels like more of a career to be a coach. Yeah. so I was playing in Europe played a little bit in the minor Leagues with the Celtics and the magic back when it wass called the D League Um and then playing overseas, playing in Germany, Belgium Cyprus, Latvia have been a little bit all over the place U But I knew my career was never going to get to the highest level. I I was kind of just doing it because I loved hoops, lo competing And you get paid to travel the world, man. It was awesome. U, But I knew I wanted to coach. And so I was working out in Vegas at the same time NBA Summer League was going on working out for a bunch of European teams and trying to get my next contract, but I kept getting banged up. Like I had spine surgery, I broke my foot, I got screws my foot. and it was just one of those things like All right, what are we doing here? We can keep making okay money and keep doing this or we can start doing what your career is and still be around the game U So I talked to cooach Hamilton and he's like, well every team in NBA is out where you're working out right now. just go start talking to people And so I would go I would work out in the morning and I would go from like noon to the last summer League game. And I would just like find every NBA person that would listen to me and be like, Hey, I want to coach someomeday if you got anything Through that week I think I had six or seven interviews like in the stands that summer Lekue of like Yeah all right, you want to coach, go interview. you basically got to get in through the film room. you got to start in an internship. U And then I had a couple buddies in the NBA that have already done this and they were kind of showing me the ropes of like, if you want to do this, you got to talk to these people. you got to So so through that week, by the end of the week, I think I had three or four job offers of like, yeah, if you want to be an intern, you can join us. One of them was Golden State. the owners of Golden State are their Lacob family, G family Kirk ran the D League team when I played in the D League. And at one point he almost tried to trade for me to like come be their backup point guard And so he remembered me. He's like, come talk hoops, like let's catch up. I remember when you played Um, so through that, you know, connected with, you know, some of Steve Kk staff And they're like, Yeah, we got a spot open. One of our interns is leaving. and literally day Kevin Drant signs with glass I was going to say Yeah You're such a front runner, dude. one hundred percent, I'm hopping on that bandwagon. So I call my wife. Y' ring chaser chaser Thousand percent So I call my wife and I'm like, all right She kind of knew what I was doing. I'm like, I think this is the sign we're looking for. likeike do we go play again? Do we get in? I was like, Kevin Duran just join the best team on Eth this would be unwise to not go down this. Yeah. And but what she didn't realize is and and we're young. we don't have kids yet, but we're freshly married is I was leaving like six figures on the table to take in a minimum wage internship in the most expensive city in the world in San Francisco and Oakland And so I'm like, Hey bab, you're also gonna to have to get a job. Yeah. Yeah ye. Th those details came later is like we might not have to move every year in the future. So we'll save on the backke end, but yeah, you might want to dust off that resume. That' So you go you go to Golden State. What's your job when you first get there? What are you doing day to day? So I was in the film room a little bit of really whatever they needed, man. because I was fresh off plane so I would kind of practice with the guys. I'd work out with them, rebound, but your main job is you break down film. So all the film the staff needs, you're coding it. So it's like learning a new language. I thought I knew basketball. I knew nothing about basketball But it was it was awesome because there were so many head coaches on that staff Steve was incredible, but then like Mike Brown, Ron Adams at the time was the best assist in the NBA. Willie Green was on that staff. There was all these head coaches Um that basically and Mike Brown being the most significant that took me under their wing of like, Mike starred in the film room too. And And he remembered those days of like, you're working twelve, sixteen hours, you're there early, you're there late. If Clay wants to come shoot at one AM, like you're the guy going to rebound for him. So a little bit of everything. But then through that, you learn about analytics. you learn the terminology, you learn how to coach. And the greatest thing about Steve is is he wanted the young guys to really learn, not just be in the background So by year two, I went from an intern to a player development coach that was in charge of the two ways to full time player development coach and just kept rising up through that, Steve would like give you scouts. And so you'd be in front of the team. I've only been coaching for two years and you're in front of the team like breaking down the entire scout And you're in charge of everything. You're in charge of, defense personnel. And it really forced us as young coaches. and that's why so many coaches go on and do great things, but it forced you as a young coach. be on your stuff. likeike you got Drayond Green. I was say you're doing No that'song. Yeah. Yeah, you're not only doing it, but you're doing in front of Kevin Rurant Draymond Green st guys who know basketball better than anyone in the world And they thought it being and Draymond were the same class. Yeah. And he would like bring up all the time that was ranked higher than them and like like shows how good these rankings are He would grill you in a good way of like if if you're going to do this as a coach, you got, you got to know you're talking about. Yeah. Was there a moment that you gave something to Draymon or gave something to KD where it's like it almost clicked where they're like, hey, we now trust you. because I'm sure that is a process. Yeah where it's like They're not going to just take coaching from anyone You know, but once you get to that point, I'm sure those guys want to just absorb everything. Yeah. not really any point, but I do think as former players, that's why I've tried to hire a lot of former players on my staff too as former players There's already somewhat of a built, obviously I didn't play at that level, but there's a built in respect of like Not in your shoes, but I sat in your shoes. like I know in the midst of a game what goes on right? I'm not someone that's never played. So I do think and then, you know, that year, Katie got hurt and they kind of stuck me as an intern just to work out with them as he was coming back from his knee injury and through that that bond and even like Steph would pull me you know, aside to do shooting drills and they would be like heavily weighted, right? Like he's handcuffed in these shooting drills and I'm just trying to make it and he would torch me. But like through those workouts and through working out, I think just that part built in a little bit of respect. And they knew like I'm trying to learn how to coach that. I don't know. I'm learning more from them and the staff than I'm actually giving. You know what I'm saying? But if you're if you're a sponge and You just keep your eyes open and your mouth shut. you can learn pretty quick what's going on. Yeah.. What's the the most impressive shooting performance that you saw from either, you know, Clay, Steph or Katie in your time. They're like in practice. Yeah. so they would do this drill and Steph still does this drill and he's like a maniac. He's like an absolute machine with the way he works. It's unbelievable Katie the same thing But he does this drill where you shoot until you miss T in a row And so Every spot you try to get a certain number and then you try to get one hundred, right? So you shoot until you miss two in a row, which For him takes a long time. he misses one, he just as I say, this is a fast ever. For us. Well for us. Yeah you're going make a total of like five to ten. But he he's trying to get to one hundred aroundround five spots.. Right? So I'm not great at math, but I think that's twenty of spot. Yeah He ran off sixty seven straight threes which which I thought was like so impressive. Like my mind was gown, right? Just that is insane. It's insane This is actually in Chicago. We're playing the Blls later that year He runs off and there's a video of it. He runs off one hundred and five straight Dozen one hundred five straight corner threes. And I was like, what am I looking at? there is a few by the way, this coffee, I'm not a big canned coffee guy. Y coffee is unbelievable. sh of your company. Y. We need to get some of these. Absolutely we got you. But there was moments in that where as a young coach, like What am I watching with? Yeah a great job coaching. Yeah ye yeah. It's aob. Yeah. Yeah K Steph Glay. they're all under my tutelage. Yeah. Yeah. All right. so I got a question about I got two questions about Steph. I'm going to play a little game with you. It's called question you've probably been asked a million times and question hopefully you've never been asked. Okay. bothoth about Steph. One is What is what does Steph do in terms of his workouts? Because I think the part of Steph that is Underrated, maybe not acknowledged as much as He's just always moving and his stamina is so insane and that's why he's able to get open the amount of times he get gets open is he just runs everyone you know, down essentially. What is he doing in practice and in and in the off season to get to that point Bat, you kind of answered your own question there. Yeah you he works harder on his condition than anyone in basketball I've ever seen. And it'' nonstop. And to me like at his age, that's that's tough to do, man. those are like long off seasons, especially time you're playing, you know, preseason regular season NBA playoffs through the finals. you're playing over one hundred games a year And to take a few weeks off and then get right back into it and to do that for like twenty straight years. It's unbelievable. Is he like running? Is he is he distance What is he doing? It's equal parts the intensity. Yeah like he won't work out for two hours But it's the intensity that he does his drills at. He tries to every single rep, he tries to go game speed whichich is tough to do. It's tough to mimic a game in your workout. He's probably as close as I've seen of like when I do things, they're going to mimic what I do in the game And then in between he's doing con'll put you through some drills we'll put you through some steps sty drills. Yeah yeah. But but it is a so For example, when I joined the Sacramento Kings, one of my jobs Um, you know, help run the offense. Eventually I became a defensive coordinator, but I trained Darren Fox and One of the first things I did was Darren, we're going down, it's an hour and a half drive from Sacramento. We're going down to workout with Steph. And in the first workout Not only like his body, he just wasn't and Darren' one of the best athletes in all of sports. like unbeliev athlete forearms were cramping. I've never seen someone's forearms. His forearms were cramping just from the level and the intensity of these shooting drills and he looks at me after the workout. He's like All right, I get it now. Yeah I get why stuff is where he's at if this is the way he works out every day. But it was great for Daron to go down and Steph does a really good job putting together some of those you know, younger athletes that he can kind of take over under his wing. U, but it was great for Fox to see. And then that year, Fox became an all star. Yeah. All right. so now the question that you have never been asked Okay steph Can you get him on our podcast I can't promise that. Okay, but you could ask I could try. Yeah I can ask. Yeah. H you been asked that before? If you don't ask, it's always enough. Right. Yeah. That's how I got my call for today. T talk about my wife. Yeah Yeah, exactly. You gotta take a shot. You gota shoot your shot. I think you'd really like this. I think you'd really enjoy doing this podcast. Well we we go to Tahoe for that tournament that he just dominatesu golf. Yeahah So we've we met him last year, but yeah, he is he iss definitely a white whale guest of ours put in a feeler. Yeah, we're massive fans. But that's awesome. So so I wanted you were on Wake upp Barceal with me thisorning. You said something very interesting that I wanted to go further because we ran out of time The first season coaching Florida State I thought you guys were like you guys were coming on at the end of the season. you're playing great ball. I was saying that I watched a ton of college basketball and you were in that that camp of teams that I circle being like, Hey, don't sleep on them anymore. They're hard out They might be, you know, fifteen point underdogs duke, but like they're going to keep this game close and you guys finished strong. But you said that going into the season, you you coach the guys like you were in the NBA and you had to adjust. What did that look like? What did your mistakes look like to start and then what the adjustment look like? because it worked Yeah, there are a few things. Number one, I want to play a certain style, right? I want to play a pace that analytically supports like the best teams play fast because you attack a said defense. New York's doing it right now. Yeah like. Like I want to play like the New York Kicks. Like they play fast, they share the ball, there's constant movement, there's constant cutting. and then you create high level shots, right? A lot at the rim, but a lot of kick out threes. and then you get out of your way your stars and you let them work, right? You're not going to handcuff Bruntson. you're not going to handcuff Kat. Um, but even before play style, I was teaching and coaching these guys like I was used to. I'm used to coaching adults that By the time you get to the NBA, you weed out all the guys that don't know how to play. You weed out all the guys that don't understand the game of basketball at a certain, I shouldn't say all them, but most of them, you get to that level You can tell those guys, even role players, you take a guy like like Trey Lowes, you tell Treay Les one one time and he's like, all right, I got it. I understand what you're saying. I can go implement that You get to college and there's no disrespect, This is where they're at in their development They're very talented but they't they don't understand on like an intellectual level of like what you're saying. Right. So you have to teach, which I love teaching, but I didn't realize like not only you gott to teach it, If you don't touch on it in two days, they forget it. Right because they just don't know. they haven't been through all those reps. They're not they're not grown upps And so we're like, ten games in the season and I'm like guy they're not grasping what we're saying and one of my I call him college coaches because' never coached in the NBA, but he was a head coach in college He's like, well, some of that is on us. We're not teaching them. You're saying it, but we're not teaching them what you mean, right And not only you have to teach them, you got to teach them every single day. And then you play a game and you got to do it again. Right. And so I think that was the first thing. we changed our structure of practice. of like we need to teach a little bit more, but then our compete level has to go through the roof, right The second thing We were just launching threes. I mean, we led the nation in threes for a good portion Um But they weren't going in That's important that is I don't care what anyone tells you and math would agree if the shots don't go and you're not going score a lot of points. Correct. And throughrough that, I'm like, guys I get I want to play a certain style, but if it's not working We got to change. Right And so it's not that I love the three ball. I love playing fast, but we got to attack the rim. We got the free throw line a little bit more. And through that because we did that, our defense got a lot better because because now it's not you're launching three these long rebounds. It's leading to runout. We lost we lost that home by forty four to NC state And I felt like it was a lay upp line for him. just nonstop layups Because we were missing all these long shots and our defense couldn't get set And I think in that moment, that's where it like flipped. we went after that game. We went back to my office and I don't recommend this. I'm not like a in the office all night but I'm like, this is a crisis. L we need to figure this out. Right And so we stayed in my office t almost five AM And we cracked a couple of beers, watched every clip at NC State game. I'm like, we're not leaving here until we have a plan to fix this season point, I think we had lost like eight out of and We stayed up all night and we basically came back of like, all right, we need to focus on defense, our compete level. We got to stop this transition defense But then offensively, like we have to be in attack mode of getting to the hoop. And I really don't care if we shoot zero threes, right? And our staff was so good about taking that and implement. We still shot a lot of threes, but we got way better ones because their mindset was like, no, no, we're getting into the hoop.. We're trying to score. And now if the help comes, it's a kickout three. It's exactly what the New York Knicks are doing. Like if you watch them, if you load up and help, they're going to get a kickout three And if you don't, you let your stars work. Yeah giveive them space Jim Brser one on one and the pain is going to score every time.'s good things are going to even with OG Mcill Bridges Those guys are attacking and getting to where they need to to score at an efficient rate And as soon as you help there's a kickout going backside and it's a splash wide open three. Yeah. Yeah. This is some pretty analytical stuff. I'm about to ask you, but have you figured out the difference between you wearing like a quarter zip and you getting dressed up in the suit? likeike how the team performs because we like it when the coaches still get dressed up on the sidelines. Yeah. since COVID, that's, you know, one of the things in addition to excluding Florida state from potentially winning a national championship It feels like after COVID Coaches don'tar suits anym And speaking of suits Nate Os daughter is that right? Is that public knowge She interering.ad just ran into her. Yeah That's awesome. Yeah. best suit game of college basketball. And I think outside of probably Patino, Patinos got like when so olds newar. He's the boss. Yeah he's the So I will tell you, it was a little bit of we're gonna try some things out this year. I had a pretty good rhythm of at home I dressed up of like Im I'm going to put. And then on the road, I just I'm all about efficiency. I don't like traveling with the suit. You gott to figure out like, are you iring in the hotel room? I actually like that. It like home this is my home uniform. show respect to the home crowd. Like I'm going to get dressed up for you on the road. I don't give a fuck. We're just business. We're here to win a game. Yeah. But you said you said no to Eddie asked you off air actually if you would do an homage to your coach, Leonard Hamilton and maybe do you like the t shirt or the turtleneck underneath sport co you said no. Yeah. so if you're going if you're going to dress up to It's not a bad look. you just look. It is a great look and it's actually more comfortable. I may walk that back maybe we may think about out. Yeah thinkink about we'll ponder that a little bit. I mean, the turteneck too like I would get some eyes on you. That would be an aggressive look. Yeah. The turtleneck, you got to have a certain look to pull that off. Maybe it's a confidence issue, Maybe it's a self you gota just do it. You got to go with it. You got to go it. And you could, you know, ease into it like you know, early in the season, a game that you know you're going to win. try something bowled out because you don't want to lose in a crazy suit and then just kind of see how it goes and then you find your foot point. Well Yeah game one, I made the entire staff do suits And they almost rioted. I almost like a coach resigned. Is thered on them? Yeahah, I was No well, all right, hold on. let me back up them all. You caught them Yeah ye Yeah Yep. And I said now because we did this because a lot of the younger staff members and Steve did this for us Steve like got it, it's a great Popovich thing. You like take care of the younger guys A lot of young guys didn't have dress pants and And I'm like guys, all right, I'm gonna take care of you Um, But now you got to wear it. And we wore it the first game. and my associate head coach, guy named Jim Moran And he was really worried about me coming on because he knows I shoot from the hip and and he's like, Luke, you got to realize like this is a national audience. You can't. Tallyort podcast. Yeah Number one in the world, I think. I don't know. No, that's That's fact. That's a fact. Um, but Jim's like Luke, I'm going to help you out. I'm a former head coach. older than you, I'm just going to like little bro you right now. We're not doing the suits anymore. If you want to do them, you can do them. We're not doing them. I was itching the whole. I couldn't even concentrate on my offense is doing. And so Jim saved the staff and I don't think that it suits anymore after that. He kind of like, yeah, we're not doing that. Yeah. the good news is down down at FSU by the time you're in your seventies you're going to look like you're thirty if it's something in the water because like cooach Hamilton. He didn't age. He looks like he's younger than all of us looks like he's in his thirties right now. It's I've now known Coach Hamilton Since I was fourteen years fifteen years old, I think you started recruiting me. So I don't know twenty one years, twenty two years He has not aged. It's incredible. I don't know what kind of lotion that guy used wow. Yeah. It''s younger every. It's incredible. Yeah. what is your pitch to to recruits? whether let's just say like For this case, transfer portal. If you're hitting the portal, What's your message for why they should come to FSU? Yeah, so we can do things a little bit differently than most staffs in America. There's probably two other staffs that can do what we can do and preach the message we can preach in terms of you come to Florida State, we are going to train you like a pro because that's all we know. half half of our staff came from the NBA So in terms of your player development, your nutrition, your weight room All these kids say they want to get to the NBA but then they train like college kids. Now the great ones will get there eith way. doesn't matter But for all those guys in the fringes, like you're training like a college player and I'll tell them I used to run draft workouts for multiple organizations best college players would get in an NBA workout and have no idea because everything's different. spacing iss different, the cutting's different, the ball movement' different, the terminology is different We're going to train you like an NBA player before you get there So when you get there, you don't just get there, you can stick And I think that's first and foremost. The second thing, I'm a big believer and buying stock low. And right now, like we haven't been to a tournament and for five years But you can feel the momentum of like, all right, we got some good things going. You can go to one of these top programs and I'm not going to name them and just be another guy on their list of or you can come to Florida State and help us turn this into one of those programs. Yeah. And to me, a lot of kids resonate with that. Like I can go to Florida State and like be one of the guys everyone remembers. Yeah. or you can go to Big Blue blood and like, yeah, you're just a list of another hundred guys. No one's going to remember you. Yeah, no, I like that pitch because I do think that you can and telling someone there's guys wire a certain way where it's like Come be the change. Not come be part of what we've been running for twenty years, you know Like we've been doing it, you're just going to become part of the factory lines. It's like, no start the factory here. That's right. Yeah. That's right. And I do think a lot of, you know, these conversations happen with the kids, right? their parents, their AU coaches, but ultimately the agents have a lot of say. Yeah. And it does help us First of all, I know a lot of these guys from the NBA and our staff does. And seconde off, they see our style of play. they see the way we train Financially for them, they puts more money in their pocket if they make the NBA, right long term And so why not place your kids out of place gives them a little bit better chance Yeah. And it's not like we're a scrub program down like St still Florida State University.ike there's a big time brand. you play in the ACC. Ton of our games are on national TV Your guy is going to have a better shot if he's around NBA coaches every day. Yeah it's just It's science. Yeah. No, I like it. I like the pitch. All right, so could we talk about the NBA finals real quick? You have Absolutely. competing interests. you are veryy close with Daron Fox and Mike Brown is one of your mentors.. What are you going to do?re you There's a lot Are you are you texting each like different thing like Hey, I' rooting for you, Dearren. Yeah. And then Mike Brown, you're like, hey, cooach, I know you got the team. I love you. Copy and paste copy and paste of both of them. four more. Yeah. four more. you got Not only Dereren Fox, but Harrison Barnes, Jordan McLaghlin with the Surs, Denv Visll with the Flora state guy. Y. And then, you know, obviously Mike Brown, he took a couple of our coaches from Sacramento who I'm very close with Ricky Foy, an Italian guy Charles Allen, but then they got a couple guys who I was with with the Phoenix Sons to, Landers Shamid, Mill Bridggetes. So like both teams have like I really don't know who I'm going for. Either way it's a win for me. Yeah.' like someone's going to win and I'm going to be all the way on their side. But I'm just so happy for especially for Fox, but for Mike Brown. like He's one of my closest friends, really my mentor in my career. He's done so much for my career and my personal life Um But to see him at that stage from where we left together in Sacramento And that that final year in Sacramento to now where these guys are like I couldn't be happier And and honestly, this is good for the NBA. Yeah the Nicks being back in the finals. And then you got Weemby on the other side, probably if not now very soon, the best player on Earth going at it on the biggest it's incredible for the NBA. How How would you attack Weemby if you were gameplning this? Yeah, there's there's no really good option because he's so long defensively. Um The best thing you can do against him is get him away from the hoop. And so you try to force a switch, but Spurs do a really good job keeping him in positions where he's close to the hoop and he can rim protect But if you can get him away from the if you can manufacture him getting away from the hoop, whoever his matchup is if he's a threat from three and you get him away, the ball moves quick and then you attack the hoop Theoretically you're going to get better shots at the rim U, and if he helps and over helpels Th you got kick out threes. I mean that's an oversimplification for one way to attack him. The other way and okay, he tried to do it. you just try to physically maul him and hope that he breaks down. The problem is that kid is resilient man. Yeah. It is unbelievable. The punishment he took in that series and he just kept getting up like, no, I'm here And we are going to the finals was impressive. Yeah. No it was it was incredible and that would be the the only I lean Nicks to win this series is because You talk about getting Weemby away from the hoop It felt like the Thunder just weren't able to do it because they were just lacking in shooters at the end. You know what I mean? with some of their injuries and they're playing guys that couldn't hit open threes and you could you could sag off of them The next it feels like right now everyone's everyone's making shots and There's not. I mean, even like a guy like Kat, he's one of the best three points shoot He is probably the best three point shooting big manen ever So like you get a guy like that. he Everyone you have to respect from three Yeah, Kat, you know, OG, all these guys can knock hard Yeahash hard Snd them down. It'll be interesting too and you kind of saw it last series with the Kicks with this long of a break you might get a little rust in the first couple of quarters that they got to shake off Um, but the way the Kicks have been playing, I mean, it very rarely even going back to really our golden state teams Do you have a team that dominant offensively, but also that dominant defensively. That's what's been so impressedive with the Nicks. everyveryone talks about the offensive numbers and output and their efficiency. I mean the margin in the playoffs of their efficiency compared to the next two teams, which are San Antio and Oklahoma City is like jarring. Creates like a mile of separation but then also be the best defense That's like unheard of. Right. That's unheard of. Usually if you're that offensive driven, your defense is going to suffer. These guys are doing it all. So you were I think your job title was defensive coordinator at one point, right? It was. So as a defensive coordinator in the NBA, how much of that is effort? How much is is like you can you can get most players decent at playing defense if they just try. Yeah, it it's a little bit of like go given, you know, athletic ability and length. like you need length to be a good defensive team A lot of it is like, and you're seeing it again with the Nicks and a little bit with the spurs like Okay, se's a per example A lot of it is just like, are you a dog? And you call it effort, hustle. L, are you a dog or are you not a dog? And if you're and I'm not talking like poodles, Australian shhepherds, like are you a pit buull that's ready to go to war everyion Or a fox. Yeah, probablyably not the best example That's a huge part of it. I think system and scheme helps I think length and physicality helps Best defenses are connected They communicate at the highest level And then they just got a bunch of dogs out there that are hunting. Yeah. And that to me is like, this is why this series is going be awesome. It beome It's gonna be awesome. Very excited. And you were in Sacramento when they would light the beam A the games. Yeah. Yeah, that was like we got there and that's what they create. It was pretty cool, man. Yeah not gonna lie. I thought it was really cheesy when they pited it to us. I'm like, what we what are we doing? This is a circus? No, I like it city was like insane all into it and the team got behind it. It was really cool. And especially that first year like we were picked last. When we finished third in the West, that beam was like the city would go nuts. It was pretty cool driving home. you could like see the beam coming from the stity. Yeah. Is that something that you've considered bringing to Florida state Maybe a spear. mayaybe a spear can be out of the a L Yeah Yeah.'s that's not abouts not a b idea. whole town first. Yeah.ar. That's not a bad idea. I had one last question that we have Zach has a question as a Florida boy, but In terms of the MBA finals because you went through all these runs with Golden State What is it like in terms of the mentality of a locker room gettinget to that final. It's a lot of basketball Yeah And is it like How do guys stay fresh mentally or you could just say that the worris were so good it didn't fucking matter? Because you guys were that good. It was a little bit of that. Yeah. I mean my wife brought it up when we were watching game seven of this last series. She's like, do you remember going through the playoffs? I don't think we ever had this anxiety. Right. I we went like sixteen and one. There was a series in Houston where we were down at their place and then Steph just went nuclear and I think they missed like twenty seven straight. Yeah that was the game seven. Yeah. Yeah Yeah That was like the closest we like, oh, we might we might not be able to do this. Most of it was like, Yeah, we're going to win the title. Right you know? Yeah So but We had so many vets on those teams. You know everyone talks about Steph and Clay and Draymond and Katie, which obviously you talk about them, but you look at those teams like Zaza, Petulia, David West, Sean, Livingston, Andre Woodal, L these guys were grown upps. Yeah. They were full grown men with families The maturity in that locker room Anytime something would sway left or right There's like four adults in the room like No boys we' bring this back in. That's why the spurs are so crazy. I know they should be here. I know they have a couple vets on the, you know, Harison Barnes and And p laambo, but still like all their meaningful minutes are guys that are under twenty five and it's it's like No team should be doing this. Yeah, I mean, it's it's again like the gift of Wey. Yeah, he is He is an alien. Do you guys think this is a little outside to I'm search I think web' kind of overrated because if you took my athleticism and put it in his body, he would I'd still be able to dump He only needs to jump four inches to dump. That is fair, but yeah's the first big guy that you look at and you say Yeah, if I that's exactly how I would play if I had a size. Every other big guy I look at I'm like, I'd be so much better than you. Like if I look at George Mirrerson, I'm like, if I was seven seven, I'd be ten times better than this guy. I look at Wimby and I'm like, that'd be me. Yeah. likeike exactly. Well that that's why he's so unusual is normally you got like Manute Bola George Merris on these guys that, you know They move They don't have the skill. right he plays like a guard. I know. He's doing step back dribble step backacks doesn't make. Yeah it makes no sense. Yeah. But to your point on and Mitch actually touched on in his press conference like Experience is highly valuable When you have a group of guys that are that talented and that competitive That's where Weemby'sp like his competitive nature. you can tell in his face like he he's in tears after that He wanted to rip Chet's heart out. No that he wanted to embarrass him his family. L like he was going at his throat. I know. That's what makes him special and really I don't care how much experience, you can't replicate that. Yeah. That's why these two and even OKC last year did the same thing. likeike She was unreal And they were young. thinkink about that that OKC team that won it. They They were one of the youngest teams. I think they were the second youngest team to get to the finals and thes of the youngest right Like since like the seventy seven bllazers I saw I mean, if you think about and we could maybe work on this, Wendby still might have some eligibility to come to fl us Yeah play for us. Yeah What is a twenty one? twenty two? Who's your tallest guy We got a we got a seven footer coming in Baby Shack. This kid's going to be Oh yeah. seven foot That's a lot. seeven foot three hundred nine, but it's built like a defensive end. Wait, look at Mame Mart Mars is poonder He was a number four ranked center in the country coming out of high school. Um, no relation to Christian ponder No relation to Christian P., goodood. Yeah. Okay. Marss Ponder Baby Shack, six, eleven, three, twenty eight. I love this kid. So we just measured him. He was seven foot with shoes. Yeah, we play basketball shoes.. seeven foot with shoes. He was three hundred nine. We're going to try to get him about two hundred eighty five. We got to chisel him up a little bit But this kid is an animal I the way he works and his competitive nature, I think from day one, he's going be able to step in with with a huge impact. from Springfield, Virginia. I like that. I like He's from Miami but went to prep school in Springfield. Okay. Gys, you got to f we should do aaby arrual sports NIL deal with baby Shack. Yeah. L could be we got some bbe com to the off. Well T is dunk on everybody and the do the car wash He was just ye onroke he broke our hoop on day one. That's like literally broke and this is like these are hoops have been in for H I walk I walk in I walk into our practiceer the hoopss like sideways. Like what happened Like Mara's first workout. So this is good. this iss how urban legends started too like he wasn't allowed to dunk in practice Yeah. Oh I told him. I said we gott to teach how to dunk man. You can't swing on our hoops., I'm watching expive. He is swing on the hoo. He' swinging He likes to swing on the hoop. So we could do an NIL deal with him. but the problem is The only thing we can offer them is cheese steaks and you're trying to chisel them up. So we could figure some out. Okay What if we put a bounty on backboards in games because you don't see guys breaking backboards anymore. They don't like bre They don't break. But if you can damage a rim or break a backboard during a game on a dunk, I'm willing to put cheesesteak money behind every time we. Yeah, we cant do cheeseestes. We're trying to trim them down. But that would be like M I told him he was in my office right before I flew out for this and I told him, I was like, Mark says we gott to teach you how to dunk. likeike Shaq, you know, he would do the swing, but those were just the highlights. He wasn't doing that every time. Yeah. You knew when Saq was trying to break a b That's right I'm highlight Mar is trying to break the backboard every time. Every time. Yeah. I like that. You play Duke, Carolina, you play, you know, big time to break the backboard. Yeah. if you're playing, you know, whatever team at home, we need our rims Yeah when you're wearing when you're wearing your weird suit that's not That's right If I got the plaid on don don't dunk all synergy. All right This hass been so much fun, cooach. I got one last question for you It's a RobbackQ question RHOBacK d. com promo code take twenty percent off your first purchase Q zips, polos hoodies, joggers shorts, Robback. com prom could take. you have successfully made. I mean, so I'm not going to stop rooting for for the badgers, but if I have a second team, especially if you can beat Duke. It will be Florida state because I hate Duke. loveove that. So it will be Florida state this year. but Zach You got a question for coach two Florida boys chopping it up. They met her a little bit earlier Coach I was going to ask about I was going to ask about Marcus Pon just because he does seems ostan the way his b not have a question? I did have a question. I was going to ask about that because some of those clips are great to see. I have another question for you being a clearwater guy. that's nearby the golf. If you do any fishing growing up or no? L little bit of fishing, little bit of fishing. notot a ton is all sports, football, basketball grew up non sports. I do like to fish. I wish I would have fished more growing up there. You don't really realize how nice clear water is until you leave And then you realize the rest of the world's not an oasis. A couple fun facts about Clearwater, home of scientology. notot a lot of people know that. W headquarters. World headquarters, original Hooters. from my house. No Clearwater's got some fun stuff Yeah. All right. so but didn't do a ton of fishing, but it was Un unbelievable place to grow up. loveove going back there, love recruiting there. Max, what's going on back there Zach has another question that he just won't ask As What you? What are we doing?Z We're getting there. We' talking about like listen, we' talking about national waters. We're going to take it to international waters. Okay. And I was curious Do you had any highlights from maybe a honeymoon circa of twenty twenty two in Italy?. So all right, I'll try to keep this story short. Dereren Fox married a girl named Rise Resee was an unbelievable basketball player McDonald's All American played play played Yeah McDonald's all American played in college When I was with Golden State at Cow and' a really good player While she was still playing, she interned with Golden State And I was low in the film room. So they're like, can you just take care of R say, show her what we do, teach her how to do film, you know, rebound for the boys And so Ruset was like my intern. Rsee she thought she wanted to get into coaching. R say very wisely did not get into coaching, Marary Darin Fox So when I went with Mike Brown to Sacramento Ret immediately called me was like Come to San Diego train with Fox, you know, show them what you were doing in Golden State And so immediately that whole summer going into year one in Sacramento, I was working out Daring Fox in San Diego Um They were getting married that summer. And so went to the wedding, my wife, my wife was like very pregnant U likeike a week before the wedding Riset calls me and was like, Hey, we want you to come on the honeymoon And I'm like, I'm good. Yeah I'm good. And she's like, no, bring Stevie and my wife. And I'm like, Stevie iss really pregnant and you guys go enjoy your time She's like, no this means so much to Fox to try to make the playoffs and try to become an all star He doesn't want these workouts to stop So we're we're going to Italy They we were in Venice. they put me on an island like this JW on this island. So I was away from them And for two hours a day every morning, we would boat to the same gym. I'd work him out for two hours and then we would leave. That's amazing. And it was actually incredible because like it sounds terrible. like went one on their honeymoon. Yeah you went on Dear Fox's honeyoon but it showed how dedicated he was to like, no, we're doing this. Right. I'm not taking two weeks off to go to Italy So me and the strength coach went and we like brode out for twelve hours a day and you know, drank Aperol spritsz and beers in Italy. And then for two hours a day, we just go put Fox to the most intense workouts he could and then we'd go our separate ways. Okay. so that so good question, Zach. That was a good poll. Yeah. good. you clearred it up because when you say you went on his honeymoon, you really just went out and helped him work out. Yeah. But now I have a follow up How pregnant was your wife? She's about seven a half month And she was cool with this. Yeah, well she wanted to come. And we actually did a trip the next year. an anniversary trip. Okay to Spain and she came because that was pretty cool. That part that's probably when you're like, ye, I was grown out like hanging out not at Italy And then you're faciming, your very pregnant wife being like Where are you guys live Yeah, we were well, she was still moving from Scottzille. We were the Phoenix on. She was in She was in Scottvill in July pregnant Yeah. Holy.ery pregnant. You such very peace and her and my mom were like packing up the house. She was like eight months pregnant. But now now you gota you got to be I would always Facetimeer like in the gym. Yeah. work work Yeah beining. Yeah, ye So Scott, which one hundred nine degrees. Yeah. Yeah every time' great here in Italy.. Yeah. When you break it down with the details, it wasn't great. Well, I was just thinking because all three of my kids were born in like the late spring, early summer and like I remember at the end my wife just like it' be like You know, ninety degrees in Brooklyn and she'd be walking on the street and I'd be like this is not good. We a baby to come out. like Yes, it's not fun. Yeah. So And then through that like to move, she actually had my son the first day of training camp with the Sacramento Kings. So we're in a two a day She goes to the hospital. We finished practice one And that's a tough conversation.. Now, Mike was oz. He's like a family guy. Yeah. But I'm like, Mike, like my wife's about to give birth. And so I drive the hospital, missed the night practice U It's like six AM and I'm like trying to breakd down film from practice. She had just given birth And she's like, Luke, what are you doing And And I'm like, we're in the middle of training camp. likeike I can't shut it off And her mom was there. She's like, you know what? just go. just go to practice, come check in on me. And so we liter I was there for like twelve hours, birth back to practice. Yeah Yeah. That's kind of like me except the difference is I whileile my wife was giving birth, I was just losing WMBA oververs that I was betting in the hospital tough. So we you know, we both got to work. Similar. Yeah. try next. All right, well coach Thank you so much for coming here We're going to be massive fans you and the fact that you're friends with Brooks are our good friend and Kyle Long Yeah.. So a lot of connections, but we really appreciate it and it was awesome having you on. Thanks for having me Coach Loux is brought to you by Chevy. O AWL's know that Chevy Silverado is the official truck a part of my take. 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My boyfriend grunts every time he sits down or stands up, but he's twenty eight and works for a desk job Is this a medical condition or just him mentally preparing for the NFL season? It's just a guy Like you have to that's an athlete. Yeah, if you make a noise when you do something then it it counts as a workout if I stand up and go M That means I just that was a burn. Yeah. gains Yeah, I mean, I definitely make noises when I'm walking Memes just said he put this in because I just make all the noises. Oh, question from Mmes. D you write this, Mmes? No, I was just like, this I know guy does it so this sounds real What are the noises that Max makes He's like a bear Okay, that is that a is that a standing up noise? No. he did it before he turned on the mic to talk to you guys Oh yeah. I know he listen, he's that is that is definitely under the category of Italian. I also make noises when I eat Well, yeah, all of us do I've got those glasses that record your point of view. And the bad part about that is you can just hear all the noises that you make just like walking. You hear like your nose whistling. If you breathe hard, if you take a few steps too quick It's it's a shocking revelation. Yeah, no there's nothing worse in catching a good nose whistle for a little bit and you're just like, what the fuck I can't think I this out of here A nose whistle and an eye twitch Those are two things that are really nothing in the grand schema of things, but can really fuck up your day What Me just keeps laughing about the ice cream thing that Hanks. What did Hank say? do it again I was nice cream Say. was it was right behind him. I thought it was like scary. It was good. And it was also I there was it was a disaster. The cone broke halfway through. so I had to eat it quickly because it was going to It was going to fall through It was also his last day before the diet. Yeah, fact, although. he's the final stretch. pizza dude who was chewe first. I know, but we had we had family visiting and they wanted to go We went to we went to this pizza patio spot. I'm not just going to go to the patio, not eat pizza. Yeah, no, that's a fact. That's fact. Plays are really good. And I got it you want to know the pizza that I got, name the name of the pie that I got, you're literally not going to believe it Fat Italian basically Spicy meatball. That was the name of the pu. That's you. That's Yeah. P prettytty normal. Yeah. that's a pretty It's unreal Whoa What Are you kidding the handle? Wow. Yeah Wow. Now that's' f. Wait thisal this Italian pizza place guess. Ppperoni. had No, hot pepperoni had a I mean, it's literally called the spicy meatballs just been a bit on this show. Right. but That's like a normal That's like Mount Rushmore is a The spicy meatball was never listed Actually meeatball probably was. You'll never know what this pizza s said Hawaiian. That' not true. guys are crazy.ice meatball. I was like, that's me. I got I get that. I I all thought you to say something that was like super like The spicy taxi or something like that. That's basically the same thing. No. I got a sub today. You'll never guess what was Chicken cutlet? Italian. Classic bit. Classic one of hers. I'm not gonna get mad today All right. All right.'m noted. Im Good guy. Challenge exact. Great. No,'t We haven't even done the AJ Brown stuff. It is time travel. Yeah ye My male coworker got married recently and I always found him somewhat attractive. But now that he's got a ring on it, I find him even more attractive. He's just saying I max so bad on. Why is that the case? Does it make me a bad person that I feel this way? Max does look hardotter with a ring. Oh yeah yeah, I'll give you that Oh yeah.ait wait, this question was from memes Thisad in me wants to fuck me Readt get in me. Beeams wants to fuck me My mle coworker got mried.'t know I don't really know No that's what is Yeah, I mean, this is a homewrecker.. You got to your bad news, lady Just finger yourself. Is that what girls say I think you just got you got to recalibrate Right now, the guys that you're attracted to not healthy If you're on a bachelorette party with all the girls, is it acceptable to have a one night stay with someone parenthes obviously not the bride Or is that rude and you should just enjoy the weekend with the girls? Same question for about your weekend and guys. W we come in H. one night stand with one of the feells I think want you want the friends to get at least for a bacheler party, you want your boys to get fucked on the boucher party. That means you're having you're hosting a good boucheler party. No she' saying she's fucking another one of the friends on the trip. That's what I heard. I it's that way, but I don't think that's what she' celebr one night stand with someone obviously not the bride, but sounds like maybe like The doctor was the mother. The woman was a lesbian I think it's written in a way that makes it sound like she's talking about one of the other bridesmaiths but she's I I know actually a bachelorette party where this that actually happened. Bachelorette parties it I feel like they get really upset. Bachelor parties If what girl goes off separately. Oh separate Yeah, then that can get weird and it's like we were all worried about you But I know a party where it was like one person from the party ended up sleeping with a straight person from the party. ame whole thing top Yeah ry. Bachelor party I don't know where the likeike Gu all separate and everything just goes haywire. Yeah L there's no way you can all stay together. You want chaos. Yeah. You want a guy to like get lost at the Yeahub. You want a guy to lose his glasses at the strip club. You want a guy to just never come home from the strip club all that stuff hypothetically. Nbassor party Sam fun. or not with the boys by yourself and a stripper Uh All right. Last one, I've been living with my boyfriend for over a year now and he's great. Skip this sappy stuff, but he has this weird thing about him that I just can't get over He loves to pick things up with his feet. I can't understand why he does it. to be fair. He doesn't have the best back, so he says that it's to avoid aggravating it If he's doing laundry, folding clothes on the bed and something falls on the floor, he'll just pick it up with his toes pick up the fire stick with his toes I've even caught him picking up silverware between his toes one time after he dropped a fork Luckily he knows better than to just act like nothing happened and he'll put it right in the dishwasher I'm not grossed out by feet in general, but something just rubs me the wrong way Kning that he picks things up off the floor with his feet But he won't stop Am I going to just have to live with this forever for get married Yeah, I mean, yeah. it sounds like you'res like your boyfriend's an athlete or an orang attack. Yeah, a gorriller. He could be it could be a primate. Does he have a tail Are you dating Re and steady C could be Dating Stey. he's marri Yeah, that's a kind of weird thing, but it also makes me think maybe I'm just not living my life as efficiently as possible. Yeah, I was just saying, I got toa try this. I didn't know you could do this, but Fairly confident at least a fork I could pick up. But silverware is gross. Everything else is fine. The silverware is gross. The s stick is kind of strange too. fire stick's fine, silverware gross. The weird part about this is more that he's just barefoot all the time Yeah, that's not do this, but I'm not really bare for the. Right. There's actually there's one item thatve I've used my feet to pick up probably more than maybe the only item I've ever used my feet to pick up. And it's just like the mindset guys get into sometimes when we watch TV tossed a remote to myself using my feet from the ground. But that's just because like I've usually got a nice ass groove going in the couch. I've got like my setup going, so I don't want to move then don't use my feet to like try to kick it up to myself. usually won't succeed at it. But yeah, sounds like this guy' just, I think he might be more efficient at Just like it's different appendages. I've been we've been playing with our hands tied behind her back all these years if weven tried using her feet I lost I lost the living room remote for six days. It was a night That's brutally Where was it? I don't even know it just show back up Like it it was just back. I'm assuming one of my kids just took it I've put them remot the you ever around the fridge? All the timesot. Yeah good. That's it' hot. I put my phone in the fridge one time That's tough. I'm in the fridgees Rcious. That's just putting your that's when you're just on autoppe You're just you're just cruising along and light. You're in the zone. And you're just like, oh, shit Wh're the remoco. Yeah U Okay, we've never done this before where we did the numbers, we played at the beginning of the show and then we're going to do new numbers. Does anyone want to guess first Maybe's going to fix the camera first before Does anyone want to guess first You didn't Numbers. Do anyone want to guess first do a Anyone want to guess Only forty four. Anyone in the booth want to guess? Oh meves Mees Mes Mes. I just said eight haveer said Yeah. Yeah, that weird. I'll do thirty two. I'll do three Do I sixty seven? I guess I mean I'll do eleven. do eleven. You sure? Do I have your permission? I don't think it is. I don't think the damage is done You shouldn't. This is a bad idea. I want to say for the record this a bad idea. I'm going for Josh H Lets Let's go tooer. Wh'd you say memes? Three. Josh. Three. Okay He is gonna sixixty eight twenty one, sixty nine going eleven for Carter Bryant. D happen sixixty three, sixty three Anyone All right, one more? Oh what. me stop that Colton got. would Colton guess? sixty nine. Okay. And Jacob did sixty eight. Yeah. It's fine. I don't know what you guys are freaking out about. Wh We're freaking out because last time we a lot of balls it almost broke up the whole podcast. So when somebody took the number you w. Well no, He wants. whyy they took the number? He ws three. forty four. Actually? No, it's not. Yeah, Max. Wow. All right, Max. What a day for the booth boys. That's awesome. Holy shit, twoo thirds of you guys. Good job, Max. There six of us a full boys. I'm saying like the regular booth boys in this during the show for That's incredible Max. Another ring for Max. shout out Christopher Santa. four days in a row for M Anyone else want to congratulate, Max? Oh, congrats, Max. Yeah. Zack Max, how are you feeling I think I think I'm good. I think I' I think this I think is fair this is clean, fair win for me. No, it's cle that's your favorite player right now, right? Because you're saying them That makes sense. Not your emails? Yeah, Rrter Serays forty four scoreless. I think he doesnt he might pitch t night. Wow What a poull, Max. Congrats, Max. Way to go Shit. I mean Wals are closing in around me. And Hank? Yes, so right now it's Jacob Zach me Max. Wow, Oh got it Oh boy, okay. U Are we doing birthdays? did we already run that or we piping in the old birthdays? Piping the old birth. Pip in the old birthdays Love you guys. We havey your birthday to Kate Okay Mar Kate H happppy birthday to Roma Doomsday, Hayirthday to Aaronola, Max. Hppy birthday to Al Horford, Hank. Also ten day birthday countdown starts today until Hank's birthday. T days. We got ten days to get ready for Hank's birthday. It's a can't miss birthday ten days. I'm saying out loud to myself. Also happ big huge, happy birthday today probably should have let off with this. O should I say Eid me lads, S eid B Mitsana to the Emir of Qatar. Tamem bin Hammad bin Khalifa, Al Thari, my home dog appreciate everything you do glorious, wise, gracious across the board Keep knocking out the park, King Or Amir, should I say? Let me guess.